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The first body came out after midnight, but it was only the first when the murder started. For the most part, they were just another murder. Sana Hawke, Khadijne Balcombe. Deborah slaughter. Each one seen individually.

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Here's another homicide. Two murders in two days. Who is african American? Caroline love. Michelle Stinson.

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Another victim to roll out. A lot of women are in fear. I just talked to her, and now she's dead. The patterns of women being killed didn't really add up. Randy Henderson and nine others.

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These ten murders, the murder count possibly totaling 13. Why didn't police see it sooner? All victims of an unknown suspect. Whoever did this was a ghost. Danger disguised as a friend.

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And his victims never saw him coming. Why did it take so long to see a pattern? We feel bad that we did not know that soon. But it wasn't just police. It was those of us in the media.

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And, I think, the community. Man, it was right there. This young mother was killed in the same manner. All had been strangled. He looked at me and he said, we think we have a serial killer.

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You know, if you don't get him off the streets fast, he could do it again. I was not gonna stop until I found out who did this. If we'd only had the little pieces. Shauna hawk. Had we only known what we know almost like they were having to work homicides, like car accidents.It's the nineties in Charlotte, North Carolina. Skyscrapers are going up. But at the same time, a series of crimes are unfolding. 20 year old Shawna Hawke is found strangled in her bathtub, and her friend and co worker, Caroline the still missing Caroline love, goes unsolved. You can't even stay at home and be safe anymore.For some unknown reason, they just couldn't connect the dots. Dee Sumpter is a remarkable woman. Yes, her heart broke, but her will didn't. D Sumter went on a public campaign to call attention to her daughter's death. It's better knowing.And she turned what was the worst possible situation into something extremely positive for this community. When she, along with Shawna's godmother, Judy Williams, started an organization called mother's a murdered offspring, which is still here. I just knew I had a daughter who was murdered and it wasn't being investigated properly. I was appalled by that, angered by it, and I was not gonna stop until I found out who did this. They felt that the police department or the city didn't care enough because they were young black women.Dee Sumter, whose daughter Shawna was on that list of victims, still wonders, what if some of the faces were white? Instead, every time another youngster was murdered, there was Dee calling the press, going after the police, saying, what are you going to do to help us? She was turning up the heat on the police. They particularly attacked the police each and every day about what we were doing and what we were not doing because they thought that we should be doing more. And we were telling them that we couldn't do any more than what we had.We were overworked, and we were understaffed, but we were doing the best that we could. Dear killer, I am the mother of Shana Denise Hawke. She wrote a letter to the editor calling out the person who took her daughter's life. Something in me said, he's got to have some type of a heart. Might be a dark heart, but it's a heart.Please, please come forward and turn yourself into the authorities so justice can be served and so you can get the help you need, and so forgiveness can be given. For without this, you are eternally doomed.Can I have a moment, please?Dee Sumter's letter appears in the Charlotte observer and in the same day's paper, a brief article. A woman in Charlotte found dead in her apartment. Here we go again. Another victim. In the mornings, when Vanessa Mack had to go to work, her babysitter would come here to her house to pick up her four month old daughter.A young lady by the name of Vanessa Little Mac was murdered in her home. I said, Vanessa, I said, get up. You know, you know, like that. And then she didn't move, and she didn't say anything. So I turned the bedroom light on, and I said, oh, God.Vanessa Mack was killed in February of 1994, almost to the day that Shawna Hawk had been killed a year earlier. The blood was on her face, and her towel was around her neck. Her baby daughter, just yards away, was okay. Police believe the infant was in the home when her mother was killed. Vanessa Mack was a hospital worker.Just an honest, hardworking young lady doing the best that she can to provide for her family. I don't know why they would have did it. Because she was a good girl. She didn't bother nobody. Vanessa Little Mac's cause of death was, once again, ligature strangulation.There is a link to previous killings, but police now. Yeah, that's me now. Still with the tears and all, bro? At trial, Henry Wallace was found guilty of the assault on Tyrese.I was just like, why didn't I die? Truthfully, I wanted to die for a long time. As I started learning more, that'd be too selfish. Fought too hard to keep me alive. And that's why.That's why I didn't die.There's no time frame on grieving. There's no time frame on how long you can and can't miss somebody. But it's like, I'm a survivor. Wallace was sentenced to death, but now he's asking a judge for a new trial for him to be who here pleading for his life? Not fair.It's not justice. And I just believe it's time. It's time for us to finally see that end.It's 25 years this year that he was sentenced to death, and I'm ready for him to be executed. I think he got an appropriate sentence, but North Carolina has not executed anyone in a very long time. My goal now is to start a petition and let people sign that so that we can get an execution date and finally get this resolved.I was determined that I wasn't going to hate him. You kind of have to let it go. Otherwise, it will consume you. I don't feel hate for him now. I started journaling, and it really did help.I forgave Henry years ago for the madness of what he did. I don't harbor that hate for him, but I do think that justice should be served. Audrey is buried in South Carolina. My dad donated an acre of land for a new cemetery, and Audrey was the first one buried in that cemetery. She has a niece named Audrey, Lynette Franklin.Part of her legacy will definitely continue, so we're excited about that. She does have a son. His name is Eric Slaughter. He reminds me of Deborah a lot. I think she would be very proud of him and the progress that he has made in his life.I just wanted mothers to come together and join our forces in our hearts. Momo mothers of murdered offspring. The whole point in Momo being created was to make sure that Shonna's memory lived on. Should have never happened. But it made us better detectives, and it made Charlotte Police Department a better homicide unit.In a statement to 2020 about the Wallace investigation, the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department says the detectives worked the cases as diligently as they would have any homicide case. With the race of the victim being irrelevant in the aftermath of the murders, the department says it added staffing to the homicide unit and implemented a regular mandatory meeting to better identify related cases. You know the guys in the homicide unit, I know them all from that time. It's just that they were put in a situation where you just couldn't win. Listen to the families, because they are the voices of the victims.I fight for my own breath sometimes. I fight to be here. If I a dollar for every time that I've been told, Miss Sumter, I know I'm gonna make it, because you're making it. None of these young african american ladies deserve to die. They were young ladies who deserved to have a bright future.And so, you know, my hope and prayer is that even though as tragic as this was, something positive will come out of it.We should point out tonight that 2020 did reach out to Henry Louis Wallace for comment. He declined to be interviewed. Dee Sumpter, who started the organization, mothers of murdered offspring, has now retired, but the group continues to help the families of victims. That's our program for tonight. I'm Deborah Roberts.And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 2020 in ABC News, good night. Bringing more to the door this lunchtime with free delivery from just eat, subway, boojum, grilla and more of your local faves.TNC's apply participating stores only and minimum spend applies. Offer valid until September 1. See justeet AE for more details.

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almost like they were having to work homicides, like car accidents.

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It's the nineties in Charlotte, North Carolina. Skyscrapers are going up. But at the same time, a series of crimes are unfolding. 20 year old Shawna Hawke is found strangled in her bathtub, and her friend and co worker, Caroline the still missing Caroline love, goes unsolved. You can't even stay at home and be safe anymore.For some unknown reason, they just couldn't connect the dots. Dee Sumpter is a remarkable woman. Yes, her heart broke, but her will didn't. D Sumter went on a public campaign to call attention to her daughter's death. It's better knowing.And she turned what was the worst possible situation into something extremely positive for this community. When she, along with Shawna's godmother, Judy Williams, started an organization called mother's a murdered offspring, which is still here. I just knew I had a daughter who was murdered and it wasn't being investigated properly. I was appalled by that, angered by it, and I was not gonna stop until I found out who did this. They felt that the police department or the city didn't care enough because they were young black women.Dee Sumter, whose daughter Shawna was on that list of victims, still wonders, what if some of the faces were white? Instead, every time another youngster was murdered, there was Dee calling the press, going after the police, saying, what are you going to do to help us? She was turning up the heat on the police. They particularly attacked the police each and every day about what we were doing and what we were not doing because they thought that we should be doing more. And we were telling them that we couldn't do any more than what we had.We were overworked, and we were understaffed, but we were doing the best that we could. Dear killer, I am the mother of Shana Denise Hawke. She wrote a letter to the editor calling out the person who took her daughter's life. Something in me said, he's got to have some type of a heart. Might be a dark heart, but it's a heart.Please, please come forward and turn yourself into the authorities so justice can be served and so you can get the help you need, and so forgiveness can be given. For without this, you are eternally doomed.Can I have a moment, please?Dee Sumter's letter appears in the Charlotte observer and in the same day's paper, a brief article. A woman in Charlotte found dead in her apartment. Here we go again. Another victim. In the mornings, when Vanessa Mack had to go to work, her babysitter would come here to her house to pick up her four month old daughter.A young lady by the name of Vanessa Little Mac was murdered in her home. I said, Vanessa, I said, get up. You know, you know, like that. And then she didn't move, and she didn't say anything. So I turned the bedroom light on, and I said, oh, God.Vanessa Mack was killed in February of 1994, almost to the day that Shawna Hawk had been killed a year earlier. The blood was on her face, and her towel was around her neck. Her baby daughter, just yards away, was okay. Police believe the infant was in the home when her mother was killed. Vanessa Mack was a hospital worker.Just an honest, hardworking young lady doing the best that she can to provide for her family. I don't know why they would have did it. Because she was a good girl. She didn't bother nobody. Vanessa Little Mac's cause of death was, once again, ligature strangulation.There is a link to previous killings, but police now. Yeah, that's me now. Still with the tears and all, bro? At trial, Henry Wallace was found guilty of the assault on Tyrese.I was just like, why didn't I die? Truthfully, I wanted to die for a long time. As I started learning more, that'd be too selfish. Fought too hard to keep me alive. And that's why.That's why I didn't die.There's no time frame on grieving. There's no time frame on how long you can and can't miss somebody. But it's like, I'm a survivor. Wallace was sentenced to death, but now he's asking a judge for a new trial for him to be who here pleading for his life? Not fair.It's not justice. And I just believe it's time. It's time for us to finally see that end.It's 25 years this year that he was sentenced to death, and I'm ready for him to be executed. I think he got an appropriate sentence, but North Carolina has not executed anyone in a very long time. My goal now is to start a petition and let people sign that so that we can get an execution date and finally get this resolved.I was determined that I wasn't going to hate him. You kind of have to let it go. Otherwise, it will consume you. I don't feel hate for him now. I started journaling, and it really did help.I forgave Henry years ago for the madness of what he did. I don't harbor that hate for him, but I do think that justice should be served. Audrey is buried in South Carolina. My dad donated an acre of land for a new cemetery, and Audrey was the first one buried in that cemetery. She has a niece named Audrey, Lynette Franklin.Part of her legacy will definitely continue, so we're excited about that. She does have a son. His name is Eric Slaughter. He reminds me of Deborah a lot. I think she would be very proud of him and the progress that he has made in his life.I just wanted mothers to come together and join our forces in our hearts. Momo mothers of murdered offspring. The whole point in Momo being created was to make sure that Shonna's memory lived on. Should have never happened. But it made us better detectives, and it made Charlotte Police Department a better homicide unit.In a statement to 2020 about the Wallace investigation, the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department says the detectives worked the cases as diligently as they would have any homicide case. With the race of the victim being irrelevant in the aftermath of the murders, the department says it added staffing to the homicide unit and implemented a regular mandatory meeting to better identify related cases. You know the guys in the homicide unit, I know them all from that time. It's just that they were put in a situation where you just couldn't win. Listen to the families, because they are the voices of the victims.I fight for my own breath sometimes. I fight to be here. If I a dollar for every time that I've been told, Miss Sumter, I know I'm gonna make it, because you're making it. None of these young african american ladies deserve to die. They were young ladies who deserved to have a bright future.And so, you know, my hope and prayer is that even though as tragic as this was, something positive will come out of it.We should point out tonight that 2020 did reach out to Henry Louis Wallace for comment. He declined to be interviewed. Dee Sumpter, who started the organization, mothers of murdered offspring, has now retired, but the group continues to help the families of victims. That's our program for tonight. I'm Deborah Roberts.And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 2020 in ABC News, good night. Bringing more to the door this lunchtime with free delivery from just eat, subway, boojum, grilla and more of your local faves.TNC's apply participating stores only and minimum spend applies. Offer valid until September 1. See justeet AE for more details.

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the still missing Caroline love, goes unsolved. You can't even stay at home and be safe anymore.

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For some unknown reason, they just couldn't connect the dots. Dee Sumpter is a remarkable woman. Yes, her heart broke, but her will didn't. D Sumter went on a public campaign to call attention to her daughter's death. It's better knowing.

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And she turned what was the worst possible situation into something extremely positive for this community. When she, along with Shawna's godmother, Judy Williams, started an organization called mother's a murdered offspring, which is still here. I just knew I had a daughter who was murdered and it wasn't being investigated properly. I was appalled by that, angered by it, and I was not gonna stop until I found out who did this. They felt that the police department or the city didn't care enough because they were young black women.

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Dee Sumter, whose daughter Shawna was on that list of victims, still wonders, what if some of the faces were white? Instead, every time another youngster was murdered, there was Dee calling the press, going after the police, saying, what are you going to do to help us? She was turning up the heat on the police. They particularly attacked the police each and every day about what we were doing and what we were not doing because they thought that we should be doing more. And we were telling them that we couldn't do any more than what we had.

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We were overworked, and we were understaffed, but we were doing the best that we could. Dear killer, I am the mother of Shana Denise Hawke. She wrote a letter to the editor calling out the person who took her daughter's life. Something in me said, he's got to have some type of a heart. Might be a dark heart, but it's a heart.

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Please, please come forward and turn yourself into the authorities so justice can be served and so you can get the help you need, and so forgiveness can be given. For without this, you are eternally doomed.

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Can I have a moment, please?

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Dee Sumter's letter appears in the Charlotte observer and in the same day's paper, a brief article. A woman in Charlotte found dead in her apartment. Here we go again. Another victim. In the mornings, when Vanessa Mack had to go to work, her babysitter would come here to her house to pick up her four month old daughter.

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A young lady by the name of Vanessa Little Mac was murdered in her home. I said, Vanessa, I said, get up. You know, you know, like that. And then she didn't move, and she didn't say anything. So I turned the bedroom light on, and I said, oh, God.

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Vanessa Mack was killed in February of 1994, almost to the day that Shawna Hawk had been killed a year earlier. The blood was on her face, and her towel was around her neck. Her baby daughter, just yards away, was okay. Police believe the infant was in the home when her mother was killed. Vanessa Mack was a hospital worker.

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Just an honest, hardworking young lady doing the best that she can to provide for her family. I don't know why they would have did it. Because she was a good girl. She didn't bother nobody. Vanessa Little Mac's cause of death was, once again, ligature strangulation.

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There is a link to previous killings, but police now. Yeah, that's me now. Still with the tears and all, bro? At trial, Henry Wallace was found guilty of the assault on Tyrese.I was just like, why didn't I die? Truthfully, I wanted to die for a long time. As I started learning more, that'd be too selfish. Fought too hard to keep me alive. And that's why.That's why I didn't die.There's no time frame on grieving. There's no time frame on how long you can and can't miss somebody. But it's like, I'm a survivor. Wallace was sentenced to death, but now he's asking a judge for a new trial for him to be who here pleading for his life? Not fair.It's not justice. And I just believe it's time. It's time for us to finally see that end.It's 25 years this year that he was sentenced to death, and I'm ready for him to be executed. I think he got an appropriate sentence, but North Carolina has not executed anyone in a very long time. My goal now is to start a petition and let people sign that so that we can get an execution date and finally get this resolved.I was determined that I wasn't going to hate him. You kind of have to let it go. Otherwise, it will consume you. I don't feel hate for him now. I started journaling, and it really did help.I forgave Henry years ago for the madness of what he did. I don't harbor that hate for him, but I do think that justice should be served. Audrey is buried in South Carolina. My dad donated an acre of land for a new cemetery, and Audrey was the first one buried in that cemetery. She has a niece named Audrey, Lynette Franklin.Part of her legacy will definitely continue, so we're excited about that. She does have a son. His name is Eric Slaughter. He reminds me of Deborah a lot. I think she would be very proud of him and the progress that he has made in his life.I just wanted mothers to come together and join our forces in our hearts. Momo mothers of murdered offspring. The whole point in Momo being created was to make sure that Shonna's memory lived on. Should have never happened. But it made us better detectives, and it made Charlotte Police Department a better homicide unit.In a statement to 2020 about the Wallace investigation, the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department says the detectives worked the cases as diligently as they would have any homicide case. With the race of the victim being irrelevant in the aftermath of the murders, the department says it added staffing to the homicide unit and implemented a regular mandatory meeting to better identify related cases. You know the guys in the homicide unit, I know them all from that time. It's just that they were put in a situation where you just couldn't win. Listen to the families, because they are the voices of the victims.I fight for my own breath sometimes. I fight to be here. If I a dollar for every time that I've been told, Miss Sumter, I know I'm gonna make it, because you're making it. None of these young african american ladies deserve to die. They were young ladies who deserved to have a bright future.And so, you know, my hope and prayer is that even though as tragic as this was, something positive will come out of it.We should point out tonight that 2020 did reach out to Henry Louis Wallace for comment. He declined to be interviewed. Dee Sumpter, who started the organization, mothers of murdered offspring, has now retired, but the group continues to help the families of victims. That's our program for tonight. I'm Deborah Roberts.And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 2020 in ABC News, good night. Bringing more to the door this lunchtime with free delivery from just eat, subway, boojum, grilla and more of your local faves.TNC's apply participating stores only and minimum spend applies. Offer valid until September 1. See justeet AE for more details.

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now. Yeah, that's me now. Still with the tears and all, bro? At trial, Henry Wallace was found guilty of the assault on Tyrese.

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I was just like, why didn't I die? Truthfully, I wanted to die for a long time. As I started learning more, that'd be too selfish. Fought too hard to keep me alive. And that's why.

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That's why I didn't die.

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There's no time frame on grieving. There's no time frame on how long you can and can't miss somebody. But it's like, I'm a survivor. Wallace was sentenced to death, but now he's asking a judge for a new trial for him to be who here pleading for his life? Not fair.

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It's not justice. And I just believe it's time. It's time for us to finally see that end.

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It's 25 years this year that he was sentenced to death, and I'm ready for him to be executed. I think he got an appropriate sentence, but North Carolina has not executed anyone in a very long time. My goal now is to start a petition and let people sign that so that we can get an execution date and finally get this resolved.

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I was determined that I wasn't going to hate him. You kind of have to let it go. Otherwise, it will consume you. I don't feel hate for him now. I started journaling, and it really did help.

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I forgave Henry years ago for the madness of what he did. I don't harbor that hate for him, but I do think that justice should be served. Audrey is buried in South Carolina. My dad donated an acre of land for a new cemetery, and Audrey was the first one buried in that cemetery. She has a niece named Audrey, Lynette Franklin.

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Part of her legacy will definitely continue, so we're excited about that. She does have a son. His name is Eric Slaughter. He reminds me of Deborah a lot. I think she would be very proud of him and the progress that he has made in his life.

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I just wanted mothers to come together and join our forces in our hearts. Momo mothers of murdered offspring. The whole point in Momo being created was to make sure that Shonna's memory lived on. Should have never happened. But it made us better detectives, and it made Charlotte Police Department a better homicide unit.

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In a statement to 2020 about the Wallace investigation, the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department says the detectives worked the cases as diligently as they would have any homicide case. With the race of the victim being irrelevant in the aftermath of the murders, the department says it added staffing to the homicide unit and implemented a regular mandatory meeting to better identify related cases. You know the guys in the homicide unit, I know them all from that time. It's just that they were put in a situation where you just couldn't win. Listen to the families, because they are the voices of the victims.

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I fight for my own breath sometimes. I fight to be here. If I a dollar for every time that I've been told, Miss Sumter, I know I'm gonna make it, because you're making it. None of these young african american ladies deserve to die. They were young ladies who deserved to have a bright future.

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And so, you know, my hope and prayer is that even though as tragic as this was, something positive will come out of it.

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We should point out tonight that 2020 did reach out to Henry Louis Wallace for comment. He declined to be interviewed. Dee Sumpter, who started the organization, mothers of murdered offspring, has now retired, but the group continues to help the families of victims. That's our program for tonight. I'm Deborah Roberts.

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And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 2020 in ABC News, good night. Bringing more to the door this lunchtime with free delivery from just eat, subway, boojum, grilla and more of your local faves.

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TNC's apply participating stores only and minimum spend applies. Offer valid until September 1. See justeet AE for more details.