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It's been seven years since we lost her, and I still wake up in the middle of the night and I think, this can't be real.

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I know this didn't really happen. And so you ran up here. When you opened the door, what did you see in there? She was not breathing. She was dead.

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Bianca lying down. Lying down. Lift me up like this.

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And the husband, he was standing near to her body, crying. What am I going to tell my children now? One of those children, reliving it all. And I got a phone call from my father, said there was a terrible accident. Now, this is a man who's a successful dentist.

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Hi, I'm doctor Larry Rudolph at Three Rivers dental group. We make going to the dentist affordable. He made so much more than the average dentist. He drove up in a white Range Rover, white interior, black trim, super sport. And I said, all right, I guess he got some money.

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I've been doing some lion hunting, just having a great adventure. So minutes after his wife is found with a giant shotgun wound in her chest, he's worried about whether he's going to be a suspect. Yes. Accident, suicide, murder. There's almost no evidence all this is in Zambia.

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Why is the embassy involved? Why the FBI? They're a wealthy, globe hopping couple, both safari hunters, and one is dead. When is this nightmare going to be over?

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Zambia is in southern Africa. It's landlocked above South Africa. If you look at our country, it forms that middle part of Africa and is called the smile of Africa. And it shares in Victoria falls with Zimbabwe to its south.

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Zambia's wildlife and seeing the magnificence of nature is really arguably its greatest treasure. And those who have abandoned wildlife in Zambia, elephants, lion, leopard, cheetah. The parks in Zambia are the things that impress the national parks. And 33% of the national parks land is Kafue National park. It's the biggest park in the country, Kafue National park and the so called game management area, which are just outside its borders where hunting is allowed, draw tourists of all kinds, from nature lovers who are armed with cameras to big game hunters and their big guns.

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The hunt has to happen deeper in the bush, right in more remote places. That's where the animals are. Americans love Zambia for hunting, and we're proud of that. 60% of all safari hunting that takes place in Zambia is supported by the Americans. I have friends who read about Teddy Roosevelt's safari to Africa, and since they were kids, they wanted to go over there and hunt some sort of big game.

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Here in Zambia, hunting is called the big boys game, it's not for every gym and Jack, it involves people with money. When you hunt a leopard, when you hunt a lion, it's expensive because these are prime, prime it seems, especially when you talk about big trophy hunting. This is an expensive endeavor. It is. So you can pay 60, 8100 thousand dollars for an elephant as an example.

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For one elephant. One animal? Yeah, one animal. Many hunters come back not just with pictures of their conquests in the field, but what's called a trophy. A trophy can range from an entire stuffed animal down to skulls or elephant tusks or hippo tusks, antlers.

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Can you explain what it is that makes you proud to be able to display an animal and basically why people love trophies so much? Well, the primary reason I like trophies is because they lead to stories and it creates a conversation. It's more about recollection, remembrance of what it took to get to where I was and getting that animal. There are those who may want to get records on it and say that, look, I killed the biggest of this species. These people, they differ.

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Some they just come to hunt animals from the world, from the bush. Some they don't even get the trophies. They just want to shoot. Hi, my name is doctor Larry Rudolph. I'm here on the banks of the Kufui river in Zambia.

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I've been doing some lion hunting and just having a great adventure. Larry Rudolph was one of those Americans who traveled frequently to Kafua National park to hunt A. LaRRy even videotaped himself to help promote the hunting club he was part of. He and Bianca, his wife of 34 years, often hunted together, posting their adventures on social media. They went at least once a year, sometimes twice a year.

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They went a lot. Did they hunt a lot? Yes. Larry and Bianca's son Julian sat down for an exclusive interview with ABC News and shared memories about his mom and daddy. My parents got along, seemed to love each other.

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She was amazing.

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She was my best friend. I played sports my whole life, something different every season. And she loved to watch me play, whatever it was, even if I wasn't very good. We spent a lot of time together. He worked a lot and he traveled a lot, but he was a good father.

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He was a great provider and he spent time with us. We looked up to him. Larry was a very well respected dentist in the city of Pittsburgh. Doctor Rudolph was really kind of a pioneer on advertising. He was on billboards, on tv.

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I'm Doctor Larry Rudolph. Don't take chances with your dental care. A lot of people looked at him as, like, a celebrity. He brought people in from his commercials. I really do understand your fears about going to the dentist.

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He was very charismatic. People liked him. Patients really liked him. And he was a good businessman, and he was a good dentist. Honestly, he did impress me.

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I was impressed with the practice and how he was running it. When he was in dental school, he met Bianca. They hit it off and got married. He quickly established a dental firm with some partners. Bianca at one point was working with Larry in the dental office, but soon stepped back and began to take care of their two children, Julian and Anna Bianca.

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In 2009, Larry changed direction and started his own practice called Three Rivers Dental. Let us create a beautiful new smile just for you. It was really lucrative. He became quite wealthy through that business. When I came to work for doctor Rodolph, they were making close to 200,000 a month.

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I was shocked. I was like, wow, they really know what they're doing here. Larry's passion was, of course, giving people beautiful smiles. But his other passion was hunting. I knew he was a hunter because he bragged about it.

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Now, Bianca didn't start out as a hunter. According to her friends and brothers, she was more interested in italian language and culture when she was younger. But after years of marriage, Tulare had gone all in on hunting, even traveling solo to Africa at times to hunt. She was an experienced hunter. The two were both avid members of the Safari Club International.

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Safari Club International is a group that advocates hunters rights as well as proper conservation and hunting rights and privileges. And the motto is first for hunters. Larry set his sights on Safari Club International as president, and he got it not once, but twice. Are he passionate about it? Hi, Larry Rudolph, president of Safari Club International.

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And Larry was a proud spokesman, making and starring front and center in videos for the organization. We are hunters, and we're here tonight to celebrate what we do, birth for hunters. How quickly did he rise up the ranks of the organization? More quickly than I had seen anyone else do. He was quite the salesman.

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How was he able to sell himself so well? I guess others were taken in more easily than I was. What do you mean by that? It means that I didn't look upon him to be quite the person he was projecting himself to be. He was a doctor Jekyll, Mister Hyde personality, to be sure.

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Everyone knew that he was seeing other women. It was his mo. As long as I knew him, he always had something on the side. There was one woman in particular who would turn his world upside down.

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Hi, I'm doctor Larry Rudolph at Three Rivers dental group we make going to the dentist affordable. Larry Rudolph was a good dentist. He was skillful. He could be charming and friendly, but that was not really him. For all of Larry's amazing global adventures, there was one where he sustained a pretty serious injury.

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And the story behind it, his friends say, seems a little bit too far fetched. Larry's in Zambia, and he says he was bitten by a crocodile. What did he tell you? He came to me and he said, I caught a fish. And as I was bringing in, I reached down to get the fish, and his crocodile came up and bit the tip of my finger off.

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And now I've got a thumb that is missing sensation. It's a disability claim I'm making because as a dentist, I need this. And he said, they told me, based on the tears in the back of my pants, it was a ten foot crocodile. I sensed some suspicion about this story. More than suspicion, it was incredible to me.

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I've never believed that story. The insurance companies believed it. Not one, not two, not three, but four disability payouts. Larry raked in 30 grand a month without lifting a finger, doing any dental work. He was a doctor.

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Jekyll, mister Hyde personality, to be sure. Everyone knew that he was seeing other women, everyone in our practice. It was his mo. As long as I knew him, he always had something on the side.

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Lori Milliron worked with doctor Rudolph for many years, and they had an affair starting very early on. Lori's a divorcee. She has three children. She worked as a dental hygienist and worked in Larry's office, and that's where she. She met doctor Rudolph.

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He was her boss during that time period. Clearly, Larry was fond of whatever assets Laurie had to offer, because he hired her at the first practice and then took her with him to three Rivers dental and gave her a promotion. She ran the office. It became obvious after a while when they drove in together or, like, came in the same car. I thought, wow, so people actually cheat on their spouses.

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Rachel Anders was the girlfriend of Lori's son and moved in with Lori when she became pregnant. Laurie introduced me, said, this is Larry. This is my boyfriend. And he drove up in a white Range Rover, white interior, black trim, super sport. And I said, all right, I guess he got some money.

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He bought her a car, paid for the townhome. She could go from Payless to actually go into Michael Kors or Louis Vuitton. Everything we wanted, she provided. Just have to call Larry. I just gotta call Larry now.

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According to her lawyer, Lori thought everyone except for his children knew about her relationship with Larry. Everyone, including his wife, Bianca. It might have been secretive to his children. Understandably, that's something you shield the children from. But it was never the thought of.

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Bianca has no idea about that. I mean, everybody knew who she was. She traveled all over the world with this guy for years. They went to Africa, Alaska, Arizona, California. The Super bowl was nonstop.

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A normal person doesn't travel 60 times in a year. One trip to Alaska took place just after Larry Rudolph became president of Safari Club International in 2009. She pulls out photos and says, I got to meet Sarah Palin. Oh, my God, she's so beautiful. Laurie says that the highlight of the trip was meeting Sarah Palin.

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But for the members of Safari Club International, the standout part of the trip was meeting Lori. I thought it was grossly inappropriate, as the president of the Safari Club International, to bring a female stay in the same room, giving every appearance of being a couple. Well, that and marital infidelity. Larry's dalliances don't stop with Lori. He appears to be pursuing another woman from the Safari club, and this causes an argument with an executive board member of the club in public.

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There was an exchange that at one point became slightly heated by both parties. I said, why would you, why would you risk another person's marriage by making these unfounded rumors? Now this argument turns into a big investigation by SCI. And Larry was kicked out of the club and stripped of his hunting records. Now, he wasn't the power broker he once considered himself to be.

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And he actually filed a defamation suit against Safari Club International. That's my understanding. He believed people were spreading false rumors and that would upset his wife. So he felt like he needed to come out and sue. Whether Bianca was upset about this, it did not prevent her from supporting Larry publicly.

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Now, Bianca testified under oath in a deposition that if anything happened between her husband and another sci member. Let me read verbatim. We discussed it. We resolved it. We moved on.

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It's done. She also said she had no knowledge of any sexual relationship between Larry and Lori. Bianca says that this removal from SCi had such a tremendous impact on their lives. Her exact words were, it changed everything. Eventually, the lawsuit was settled out of court under confidential terms.

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But what Bianca said, that everything had changed was true at this point. The Rudolph's daughter, Anna Bianca, is attending dental school in Arizona. So they bought a house in the Phoenix area. And that means that Larry's traveling back and forth. He was most of the time away in Arizona and then flying back in the.

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At Three Rivers dental, Lori's the boss. Lori was basically having to run the practice. She oversaw all the offices. He was not traveling with her as much. He was traveling with Bianca quite a bit more.

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According to Anna Grimley, a former employee of Three Rivers dental, Lori was losing her patience with this arrangement. Lori came to my house on a Saturday. She did bring over some wine, and I gave her some glasses, and she poured us a cup of wine. She started talking to me about her relationship with Larry. She told me, Larry has one year to get rid of her.

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In over 30 years of marriage, there had been plenty of turbulence in Bianca and Larry Rudolph's relationship. We know that there are cracks in the foundation of this 34 year marriage. Zambia was a place that was a point of passion for both of them. And so perhaps the idea is, let's go there, let's do another exotic adventure together, and we can solidify our relationship. They loved going hunting.

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They weren't fighting. They weren't at each other's throats.

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In late September of 2016, Larry and Bianca Rudolph make the almost 20 hours flight from Phoenix to Lusaka, the capital of Zambia.

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And then they travel for another 5 hours or so by land to Kafua National Park. I was a child when I was there. I remember it was a quiet, remote, peaceful place. This is what a traffic jam looks like in the Kafue National park. Can't get through because there are lions and cubs in the road.

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And when those guys are on the road, nobody goes anywhere.

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The Rudolphs were accompanied by their longtime hunting guide, Mark Swanepo. Mark and the Rudolphs had a relationship for a long time. They clearly were friends. They were also accompanied by a local game scout who actually lived in the park named Spencer Kokoma. Lauren and sad Bianca came here for 14 days.

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Larry and Bianca seemed like they were in a good relationship. Yes. They were kissing, hugging. Yeah. She was like a mother in the hunting group.

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She was very friendly. She was very fun. Someone we can joke with. Were both Bianca and Larry Rudolph hunting, or was it just her? The one who was hunting the wife, Bianca Rudolph.

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Right. And Larry Rudolph was not hunting as many hunters do. The Rudolphs took two guns with them for the hunt, a Remington 375 rifle and a browning twelve gage shotgun. How had Bianca Rudolph handled herself around the rifle? Bianca, she was one of the experienced hunters I've worked with.

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She's one of the most experienced hunters. Yes. Whenever we see some animals she was killing with a shingle shot, the hunting starts when the sun rises.

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How many animals did she kill? Janka killed a lot of one. She started with a hippo.

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She killed Zebra, Warthog, Impara. She killed a lot of animals. But despite all of those kills, Bianca had her sights on one animal in particular. Bianca came to hunt leopard. She had gone on a number of trips, was unable to get the leopard.

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When you're hunting animals like cats, it's very tricky. They are very active at night. It's very rare for you to see them during the day. On this hunting, Bianca was unsuccessful. She didn't manage to hunt the leopard.

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Larry said, let's stay a few extra days. But Bianca did not want to. She wanted to get back to the United States because her nephew was getting married back in the US.

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This is a shuttle. We're on the beautiful, majestic Kafue river.

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To reach the campground where the Rudolphs had been staying, we had to travel 2 hours by boat along the Kafue. The Rudolphs did not take a boat because it was dry season. Yes. So they drove? Yeah, they were driving.

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Is the current always this strong? Yes. So if the current doesn't get you, there are hippos and crocodiles. We'll get you. It's right here?

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Yes. And this whole thing is the cab everywhere? The first one. They're the first cabin. The first cabin.

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All right, let's go.

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The morning of October 11, they're getting ready to come back to the United States. They were up at 04:00 a.m. and there are people in and out of the cabin, people bringing them coffee, people helping them take the luggage outside. Just feet away in the dining hall, their guides, Mark Swanepoel and Spencer Kokoma, were tallying the number of animals that Bianca had killed during the Huntley. And that's when Kokoma says they heard a gunshot ring out from the couple's cabin.

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We heard a shotgun. We heard the voice of a woman who was screaming. It started running. As you can see, it's very near. So you ran up here?

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Yes. Myself and Max van up went there. I opened the door, and when I went in, I found Bianca Rudolph. She was lying down here, and the shotgun was just near to her foot. I touched Bianca.

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She was not breathing.

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And when Kokoma got to the cabin, he says Larry Rudolph was frantic. And the husband, Larry Rudolph, he was standing near to her body, crying. What am I going to tell my children? What am I going to tell my children? Let me just kill myself, because my wife, she has committed suicide.

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I took hold of him by the hands. So you grabbed him strong, forcefully? Yes. I started comforting him. Don't kill yourself.

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But Kakuma says that Larry pulled away from him and then ran towards the Kafue river. He wanted to throw himself in the river. This is a very fast moving river right now. What happens if you throw yourself in this river? You die or you'll be eaten by a crocodile.

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There's a lot of crocodile here, right there on the Kafue River. Kokoma says that he asked Rudolph about Bianca's death a second time. What happened? What has really happened? And he told me that the wife, Bianca Ruro, was trying to put the gun in the gun case.

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It didn't fit well, so he tried to force it. By forcing it, that's how it went off. Hold on. Did he say it was suicides or did he say it was an accident? Because you said earlier, the first thing he said is she committed suicide.

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Yes. That's why she stood me. And then down by the river, he changed it to, it went off accidentally. Yes. As he tried to coax Larry away from that river, Kakoma says they had to report the deadly accident to the police.

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This is a police case. We have to go and report to the nearest police station. Larry Rudolph said, are they not going to arrest me? Are they not going to suspect me of killing my wife? So minutes after his wife is found with a giant shotgun wound in her chest, he's worried about whether he's going to be a suspect.

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Yes. Looking at this picture, we have a gunshot, a dead wife, and a husband whose story seems to change. Something is amiss.

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It is vast. And if you get in trouble, if you get injured, even if you can get a cell phone signal out and take an ambulance. 3 hours to get here, another 3 hours to the nearest clinic, and hours longer to an actual hospital. But sadly for Bianca, it is already way too late for her to get medical attention. We didn't move anything.

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I just touched Bianca and find that she's dead.

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Now Parks investigator Musou Musase still remembers the call he received the morning that Bianca Rudolph was shot. There is an accident which has happened at Chinyembe Safari camp, that a female client has shot herself accidental as she was parking the firearm. He was one of the first investigators to arrive at the Rudolph's cabin. And so when you opened the door, what did you see? When the door was opened, we found the body of the deceased, Bianca, lying down.

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Lying down, heating up like this. Was there a lot of blood? Yes, there was blood. And next to it, there was a firearm lying. And the gun that she's supposedly accidentally shot herself with is still lying nearby her in its soft case, still the scene of crime expert.

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Now, he was getting photos, trying to reconstruct the seed of crime, then trying to turn the body to see how the blade went in and how the plate came out.

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Investigators find that parts of Larry's story just don't seem to make sense. Like the fact that he was fully dressed at the time of the shooting. According to doctor Lawrence, he said he went to take a shower, then he had a gunshot in the room. But when Spencer arrived at the scene, Spencer found the man fully dressed. There's no way within some seconds you can put on some shoes.

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It throws us under shit. We know that everyone grieves in different ways, and not everyone is hysterical. But still, the investigators, they make a note of the fact that Larry just doesn't seem to be acting like a man whose wife just shot herself to death.

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We didn't see that remorse in him to show that, you know, he was sorry. He was no, like, no saying, no, I'm sorry, I have lost my wife. That sort of ness in him was not there. Spencer Kokoma also says he couldn't stop thinking about something that Larry Rudolph told him outside the cabin just moments after the deadly shooting. He said, I want the body to be benched.

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So, like, in the minutes after his wife had shot him, or he claims she shot herself, I would just bury the body, then take the ashes to the United States.

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Despite all the suspicions, protocol is followed. Bianca's body is transported to the capital city of Lusaka, and she is placed at a local funeral home. Now Larry contacts the american embassy in Lusaka. And right away he tells the consular chief that he needs to have the body cremated immediately. Something was amiss, something was fishy to our consular officer's eye.

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I need to cremate her immediately. Seems to be the only thing that he really keeps repeating. We cannot issue a death certificate overseas without identifying the person. So he would have gone to the funeral home, identified her. The member of the us embassy goes to see Bianca's body and takes pictures.

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And there's something about the pattern and size of the buckshot on Bianca's body that just doesn't sit right with the consular chief. The consular officer who responded to this death is a former marine. He indicated that the buckshot pattern from the shotgun, it indicated that the shotgun was some distance away from the victim, which would make it hard to be self inflicted.

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The consular chief says that Larry was absolutely livid, that he had looked at the body and taken the pictures. But still the cremation will go on because the zambian authorities have ruled this officially an accident. They clear doctor Rudolph, all of them. And by the way, the person who knows them the best, Mark Swanepoel, the professional hunting guide, also says accident. Everybody who saw Larry Rudolph there says accident.

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When the police took over the investigation, did you become surprised when they decided not to investigate it as a murderer, not to detain him at all? What surprised me with that Rudolph was not detained there and then Rudolf was cleared. So the police already had made up the investigation to say, no, this was an accident. I'm sure that the police went out, did what they did, but we don't know what was put in their ear while they were out there. But they did go out doing an investigation.

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Rule, accident. This doesn't look like it was an accident. The police would not be happy to be caught failures. So even as, as I speak, I'm trying to figure out the best diplomatic word to use. How could a couple come to Africa, come to Zambia, and then a person loses their life here?

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Just how, how? We reached out to the commanding officer on the case, who was now retired but were unable to obtain a comment. Five days after Bianca's death, Larry calls his son to tell him what happened to. I was driving to a football game to see the Pittsburgh Steelers play and I got a phone call from my father, said there was a terrible accident. And I asked him if she was okay.

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And he told me that she was gone.

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To lose somebody like that, you never shake it off. At this point, Larry and Bianca's ashes are of leaving Zambia and making their way back to the US. But Larry is not going to be able to leave the suspicions behind.

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The day I heard of Bianca's death, I was skeptical. I said, I wonder how many life insurance policies he has on her.

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It's mid October 2016. Larry Rudolph is back in Arizona, along with the cremated remains of his wife Bianca, killed by a shotgun blast to the chest while in safari in Zambia. I never thought that it was anything but an accident. It's tough because that's what I was told happened, and it's what I wanted to believe, even though it was tough thing to comprehend. What we had in the days, weeks, months, and years following her death was questions, a lot of them.

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My sister and I would see my father about once a year in those years following, and my dad never wanted to talk about it. In fact, he wouldn't talk about it. So when you heard that Bianca Rudolph had had this accident in Zambia in 2016, what was your first impression? I was skeptical that she was handling a firearm inappropriately causing her death. Immediately skeptical?

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Yep. Immediately. Adding fuel to the flames of skepticism is the fact that shortly after the memorial, Larry is seen with his mistress, Laurie Milliron. For a while, Larry was by himself. And then eventually, you know, you saw him and Laurie together again after having lost the wife that you said you loved for 34 years, then meeting the mistress right after seems quick.

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I get it. I get how it looks. It looks bad. That's not evidence of murder. The day I heard of Bianca's death, I was skeptical from the beginning.

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And in jest, I said, I wonder how many life insurance policies he has on her. In fact, it turns out there were nine separate life insurance policies in Bianca's name. And soon after her death, LarrY cashes them all out to the tune of almost $5 million. That's a pretty significant amount of money. $5 million is a lot of money.

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But when you're worth over $15 million and living comfortably, you don't murder someone for $5 million. You just don't have do that. I didn't know that there were that many insurance policies or for how much. I didn't know any of that. I knew that he was living with his girlfriend, Lori Milliron, who I didn't even know that she existed until after my mother passed away.

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And those were part of the answers we were trying to get.

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He wasted no time to kind of shift to this post Bianca world in which Lori moves in to the house that he shared with Bianca. LaRry and Lori have basically picked up with the life that they had before Bianca died.

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They're jet setting around the globe. They're having a grand old time. Cabo was one of their favorite places then, and it still is. The house we stayed in was $15,000 a week that Larry paid for. It was like the cribs edition of MTV.

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It was amazing. With a jacuzzi, saltwater, infinity pole. While Larry and Lori are enjoying their jet setting lifestyle, martinis and sunny, sandy beaches. What they don't know is that the FBI is getting down to business investigating the events leading to Bianca's death. According to an FBI affidavit, just weeks after Bianca's death, the FBI office in South Africa got a call from a woman who wanted the FBI to investigate the death of her friend, Bianca Rudolph.

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Now, the friend said she suspected foul play because Lawrence Rudolph had been having an affair at the time of Bianca's death. We had someone call in and say that none of the things that happened to Bianca made sense, as in, like, she's Catholic. She shouldn't have been cremated. She and Larry were having a bunch of fights. They fought about money, all these red flags.

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Former FBI agent Johnny Gruesing worked in the FBI office in Denver with the lead agent in the Rudolph case. He wanted to bounce things off of me and let me know where he was. And he was on the right track at that point. He was just still probing to see how he could prove that Larry killed Bianca. The FBI also received an unsolicited call from that former Three Rivers dental worker, Anna Grimley.

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I decided to call the FBI on it. I have some information about a dentist and his girlfriend that you may want to know. Grimley told agents her account of how Lori had allegedly given Lawrence ultimatum of one year to sell his dental offices and leave Bianca. I go, yeah, I know he did it. Just putting all the pieces together is like he did it.

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In a case like this to where you have a crime scene that lacked robustness, I guess is the best word, you have a lot of questions. In order for the FBI to figure out whether this was accident, suicide, murder, essentially, they have to recreate the scenario, and they've got to get gun experts to help them. To test whether it was even possible for Bianca to have shot herself, the FBI conducted a reach study using 15 female volunteers. So we asked firearms expert Peter Diacek to demonstrate for us how the FBI conducted their tests. The reach test would, as the name implies, be how long is a person's arm?

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Can their fingers reach the trigger with the barrel at a location that simulates the wound pattern. This is the same length barrel as the gun in the case. I'm not going to point this at my body, but my fingers simply don't reach as far as the trigger is. The 15 volunteers, none of them could reached the trigger while the gun was perpendicular to their body. That pretty much rules out a suicide.

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The FBI also investigated whether Bianca could have shot herself by accident while trying to pack up her gun, asking the test subjects to place the same type of shotgun in a similar bag and then zip the bag closed. So here's the gun of the case, and I'm not going to be ridiculous and try to shove the butt in first. I'm still gonna always use the skinny end of the gun, put it into the case, and then I close up zipper, and I'm ready to travel. In the FBI bag test, none of the 15 volunteers pointed the gun at themselves. None of the volunteers struggled with getting the gun into the case.

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The FBI also conducted a series of test firings to try to figure out how far the gun was away from Bianca when it fired. Based on the size of the wound on her body, the medical examiner, along with the FBI, said this gun had to be at least two and a half feet away from her at the time. So now we're beyond her even being able to hold it. As the investigation picks up steam, what are Larry Rudolph and Laurie Milliron doing? They are living their best life.

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Right. Larry and Lori would come in to the restaurant bar quite often. They were sitting at the corner of the bar, so they were facing themselves and me. Could it be that a sudden outburst over martinis in a bar will turn out to be the major break in this case? You could hear a pin drop at that moment.

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And is there a clue in this photograph that will add fuel to the suspicions over Larry's behavior? Just another part of the story that didn't make sense to us.

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We had a shotgun. We had the voice of a woman who was screaming. We have a gunshot, a dead wife, a husband, and a death that's labeled an accident. And now we have their son speaking out, and he wants answers. What we had in the days, weeks, months, and years following her death was questions, a lot of them.

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And so you ran up here. When you opened the door, what did you see in there? I touched young people. She was not breathing. I'm.

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The shotgun was just near to. And the husband, Vladi Rudolph, he was standing near to her body, crying, let me just kill myself. Because my wife, she has committed suicide. Hold on. Did he say it was suicide or did he say it was an accident?

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Maybe it was something else. Everybody who saw Larry Rudolph there says accident. And back in America, there was grief. This is really sad. I never thought that it was anything but an accident.

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And there's a bartender, a pretty shocked bartender, who overheard something. The woman asked me, did I hear what I thought I heard? And I said, yes, I believe we did. You could hear a pin drop. At that moment.

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They don't have a case. They don't have the proof. I just want to tell you guys what I know. She should still be here. Is there a clue in a photograph?

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I'm just hoping we all find out what really happened. I said this before, only Larry knows.

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Being in the Kafue National park, you are visiting one of the places that everybody else in the world wants to come to. That's the beauty of this place, right? I mean, we are truly in the wild. Visiting Zambia's famed hunting grounds at Kafue in late September 2016 was wealthy dentist Larry Rudolph and his wife Bianca, who had a reputation as an expert marks person. Bianca Rudolph came from halfway across the world with the dream of hunting a leopard.

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She never got that leopard. In the early morning hours of October 11, 2016, Bianca and Larry are getting ready to leave Zambia, when suddenly a shotgun blast rings out.

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I opened the door, I went in, I found Bianca Rudolph. She was lying down here with a shotgun wounds on the chest, lying in the pool of blood. And the husband, Lady Rudolph, he was standing near to her body crying. What am I going to tell my children? What am I going to tell my children?

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Let me just kill myself because my wife, she has committed suicide. The scout says Larry also told him the gun could have gone off by accident. At the time, the shooting raised a lot of questions from local investigators, but also the us embassy in Zambia. LarRY almost immediately informs the us embassy that his wife had died from an accident and that he's going to cremate her. And that sends some flags off at the us embassy because there's no reason for her to be cremated.

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The evidence and what our consular officer had witnessed pointed to this doesn't look like it was an accident. Something was amiss, something was fishy to our consular officer's eye. Despite those concerns, the death is ruled an accident. And Larry returns with Bianca's remains to their home in the suburban phoenix. But that doesn't end the suspicion because shortly after that, Larry has cashed out nine separate life insurance policies taken out in Bianca's name, and he's got nearly $5 million in dentistry, or at least in my circle, the people that knew and worked with him over the years.

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Yeah, it was, it was a big topic. And the suspicions go off the charts when Larry's longtime mistress, Lori Milliron, moves into the Rudolph's home in the Paradise Valley neighborhood. Despite the fact that Lori is living in this beautiful home, it is the marital home, and she wants her own place. Eventually, they buy this multimillionaire lot, and they built this huge mansion, and it kind of seems like they started this whole new life. They're just living their lives.

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And, yeah, I guess a couple, they would go to restaurants together, and people would know them or see them as a couple, might assume that they were, had been married long term. One of Larry and Laurie's regular haunts is an upscale restaurant in Scottsdale called steak 44. Bartender Brian Lovelace told us how he'd become friendly with the couple during their frequent visits to the restaurant's backroom bar. My impression of Larry and Laurie's relationship is that they were married, you know, happily married couple. Lori was very quiet.

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She didn't speak very much. She was very pleasant and nice. And Larry was the one who always controlled the conversation. He took the room. He was very outgoing.

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In early 2020, Lovelace says Larry and Lori are back at stake, 44, for one of their regular visits. Just typical normal evening, and they're in a great mood. And Larry shook my hand and gave me a hug like he always does. Got them their martinis, get them started. Lovely says he noticed that in the beginning, everything seems fine.

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The couple is smiling and having a good time. But he says, as the evening progressed, things became increasingly tense between Larry and Lori. So they were having an argument. He was very close to her face, trying to not be as loud. And at that moment, he just blurted out that phrase.

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And he pointed his finger and said, you know, I killed my wife for you. And the reason, lovely says he was so sure of what he heard in the restaurant was that the music had just stopped. When those words were blurted out, you could hear a pin drop. At that moment, there's no doubt in my mind that he said it. The context I have, I don't know, but I'm a hunt.

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I couldn't have been clear. It's the clearest thing I've heard. I mean, it was crystal clear. So hearing that phrase, Washington single handedly, the most shocking thing I've ever heard in my life, having covered so many murder cases. This is a scene, right?

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The music stops and the incriminating words suddenly fly out of his mouth. You can't script that. And Lori was obviously and clearly upset and embarrassed. I believe from the conversation. She turned a little bit red, and she grabbed her purse, and she walked out.

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And he just apologized again, and he went after Lori. I turned to the guests that were sitting right next to them. The woman asked me, did I hear what I thought I heard? And I said, yes, I believe we did. And she said, why would someone say that?

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And I responded, I have no idea. What could that possibly be about? Now, despite this surreal incident, Larry and Lori just keep living their lives, just moving along. Having no idea that the FBI is deeply entrenched in an investigation into Bianca's death. I got a knock on my door in 2020 from the FBI, said they were investigating my mother's death.

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My stomach just sank through the floor. After the FBI came to my apartment, things changed. What you have to do in a case like this is take your time to get all the pieces to this puzzle together. It's gonna take a while. In the five years since Bianca's death, the FBI had gathered a lot of details about Larry and Laurie's longtime love affair, as well as the huge windfall that Larry had made on those life insurance policies.

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Now the FBI also conducted forensics tests to determine whether the shooting was a suicide, accident, or homicide. The FBI turns all of its results over to a medical examiner, and he looks at all the material and comes to the conclusion that Bianca Rudolph did not accidentally kill herself. At the end of the day, the FBI concluded that they had probable cause that Larry murdered his wife with this gun in this remote zambian camp. In December of 2021, Lori and Larry are traveling back to their favorite hotspot of Cabo, and they have no idea what's waiting on the ground. Flew down when they got down there, and they landed.

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They look out of. And she sees mexican police on the tarmac. Could it be that the hunter is now becoming the hunted?

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In December 2021, Larry Rudolph and Laurie Miliron are headed to Cabo for Christmas.

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Welcome to Los Cabos. Next.

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They had been planning a trip to Cabo, where they have the condo flew down. When they got down there and they landed, they look out, and then she sees mexican police on the tarmac. Larry is detained by mexican authorities and brought back to the US, specifically to Denver, where he is arrested for murder and mail fraud. The reason why Larry was in Denver is because of one insurance payout. That was from Denver.

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It's breaking news. In Pittsburgh, the dentist is accused of murdering his wife to collect life insurance money. Lawrence Rudolph operates the Greensboro based Three Rivers dental group. When I heard that Rudolph was arrested for Bianca's death, my first reaction was, it's about time.

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My colleague just called me and said, remember that incident where that lady was shot accidentally? I said, yes. He said, yes. Can you read the story?

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I was shocked. Shocked and not so shocked. I mean, just both, you know? Cause I never wanted this to be true. Our father was telling us, I'm innocent.

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I did not do this. This was. This was a terrible accident, and the evidence is gonna prove that, and you have to believe me. And who wouldn't want to believe that? After Larry's charged, his case goes before a grand jury to get indicted.

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Lori actually gets called to testify about the charges against him and their relationship. She was served with a subpoena, like they served all the other subpoenas. So she goes in and testifies the whole target was Larry. And I believe that's why the us attorney brought her before the grand jury, to give her a chance to come and tell her side of the story.

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Hours after Lori's testimony, the grand jury makes it official, indicting Larry for murder and mail fraud. The word is starting to spread. The bartender, Brian Lovelace, goes to his chat room and finds a link. And our group text kind of exploded with everyone pressuring me to go to the authorities on what I had heard two years prior. In short order, a call was made, but not by Brian Lovelace.

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One of my fellow bartenders did decide to go to the FBI. The FBI found that it was interesting enough that they wanted to speak to me. When the federal government hears Brian Lovelace's story, well, that puts Lori Miliron's testimony in a whole different light. Of course, the FBI was all over it. They're saying that she knows about a murder and she's gone in now and intentionally lying.

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She then became an absolute target, and they sought to indict her. Correct. And it was obvious that she lied. Yes. In reading through the transcript, I saw some of the questions by one of the jurors who just grilled her, and that normally doesn't happen in a grand jury.

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Prosecutors now argue Lori knew from at least the time of that conversation at stake, 44, that Larry had killed Bianca and had lied to and intentionally misled the grand jury to prevent Larry's indictment. He had no intent to go in there and lie. This wasn't a scheme to go in there and try to throw the government off the scent. He's sitting in jail. He's already been arrested.

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But the grand jury agrees with investigators. And a month after she testified in front of them, they indict Lori, too. The girlfriend of former Greensburg dentist Lawrence Rudolph, the man accused of murdering his wife on an african safari, is now facing charges. Laurie is now indicted. Five counts of perjury for lying to a grand jury, one count of obstruction of justice, and one count of accessory after the fact.

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While the government denied bond for Larry Rudolph because he's considered flight risk, Lori Milliron is released on house arrest and is required to wear an ankle monitor. For both Larry Rudolph and Lori Miliron, a clock is now ticking as they approach trial. Prosecutors are doing everything they can to line up their arguments, but it's not clear to anyone at this point that they actually have a case that can win. It's an aggressive case where you have no eyewitnesses ruled as an accident. Overseas, you have a lot of hurdles to get over.

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They don't have a case. They don't have the proof. There's no gunshot residue. The clothes are gone. There's almost no hard evidence at all.

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The body is cremated. That's not a lot to go on. And I think juries in a case like this, they look at someone like Larry and they're saying, what if I were in his spot? I want to give him every break I can because I don't want to put an innocent man in jail.

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I just couldn't imagine being in his shoes. I thought Larry was innocent. I really thought, and actually took place in Africa.

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I was thinking, you know, we've got to have some solid evidence, some solid proof that he truly did do this crime. The visuals, the sounds, the sights in that courtroom, it's tattooed on my mind, and I'll never shake it off.

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A trial will get underway this week for a former Greensburg dentist accused of killing his wife on an african safari.

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It's been six long years trying to put this puzzle together as to how Bianca Rudolph really died. And now a Denver courthouse is center stage, and the government has decided to make a federal case out of this one.

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Now, typically, we don't see first degree murder cases in federal court. If a us citizen is accused of killing another us citizen abroad, the United States has jurisdiction if that foreign country does not prosecute. And so that's a very rarely used statute. It's very unique. Facing trial alongside doctor Larry Rudolph is his long time flame, Laurie Milliron.

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Laurie is a defendant in the case. She's been indicted for perjury in front of the grand jury and obstruction. One of the things that I was most surprised about were that prosecutors were able to successfully try both Larry and Lori together in the same courtroom. That's extremely rare.

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His daughter Annabianka and son Julian have flown in for the trial, and they are in court every single day for six years. We had questions with no answers. I really wanted to get some of those answers for myself and sit in the back of the courtroom as an observer. And that's what we did, along with being a very wealthy dentist. Next comes the means to hire very high profile lawyers.

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And that's exactly what Larry Rudolph has done with his dream team. It includes David Marcus, a very well known Miami attorney.

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The government wants this case to be about affairs. They want it to be anything they can find to distract. There has to be proof that he did it. I'm still waiting to hear proof that he pulled the trigger. I don't think the government has to prove that he pulled the trigger.

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They just have to convince Dre beyond a reasonable doubt that he did, that he did. It. Felt a little bit like David and Goliath. The defense attorneys, particularly Larry's defense attorneys, were definitely the giants in his opening statements. David Marcus is very clear to the jury, my client is innocent.

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And he says the government as choosing speculation over science fiction over fact. He also points out that police in Zambia investigated this, and they ruled the shooting accidental, as did the insurance companies. Insurance companies, as we know, don't like to pay. They don't want to pay claims. They do anything they can not to pay claims.

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And what do they say? Gotta pay. Accident. I was in court every day, and I watched how David Marcus laid out this really unique marital arrangement between Larry and Bianca, that Bianca had these two affairs early on in the marriage, and she and Larry had this sort of understanding about seeing other people, as were those suspicions that Larry had Bianca's remains cremated against her wishes. Marcus says that was specified in her will.

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In his opening statement, prosecutor Justin Bishop Gruhl tells the jurors that Larry, the avid hunter, had guns, and he knew how to use them. Now the motive is the millions Larry stood to benefit from Bianca's life insurance and the chance to live openly with his mistress.

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Larry was a smart man, a good business person. So why would he do this? Even past the opening arguments, I thought Larry was innocent. I really thought an accident took place in Africa because accidents do happen. I was thinking, okay, he's got to be innocent.

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Some could argue that the prosecution doesn't have a lot to work with. Remember, there are no fingerprints, there's no DNA, and no one tested for residue on his hands. But here there's a potential for a very strong circumstantial case.

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To help make their case, the prosecution takes the jurors through the ballistics tests they conducted to back up their contention that the shooting could not have been an accident or a suicide. Another tool that really helps build a very strong circumstantial case is witness testimony. In this case, Anna Grimley. She's a former employee of Larry Rudolph. She's the person who claims Lori told her, I gave Larry an ultimatum.

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What I did say is that Lori said that Larry needed to get rid of her within the year and that she did say, or I'll leave you. She denies giving an ultimatum. She had no reason to give an ultimatum, and she never did. That never happened.

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But the prosecution's star witness is, of course, bartender Brian Lovelace.

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After getting to Denver and going to the courthouse and walking down that street, it's a big, beautiful building, and I'm walking alone, and I have no idea what to expect. On the stand, Brian Lovelace repeated for the jury those fateful words he heard come out of Larry Rudolph's mouth when the music stopped. And it was a little nerve wracking because I've never testified for anything, let alone a federal court murder trial. So it's kind of a big deal. I think the outburst at stake, 44, was very eye opening, and I think they were arguing, and Larry being Larry, not liking what the conversation was going, was getting upset and blurted that out.

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But the real bombshell came when the defense announced its own star witness, doctor Larry Rudolph. The lawyers are rolling the dice that this smooth talking, wealthy dentist, seen on tv commercials would be able to talk his way out of a murder charge. At Three Rivers dental group, we specialize in smile makeovers. Watching your dad testify in his defense in a murder trial of your mother. It doesn't compute.

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Day after day, prosecution witnesses take the stand, and they testify about adultery, money issues, life insurance policies. But it just seems like nothing is striking the jury. Nothing is hitting home with them.

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And then Brian Lovelace takes the stand. He just blurted out phrase, I killed my wife for you. I felt that that was very important because he did say, I heard that with my own ears. The defense counters Brian Lovelace's testimony, saying, there weren't seven relevant words said in that fateful outburst. There were nine.

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It's not that Brian Lovelace misheard. It's that he didn't hear the whole conversation. He only heard from when the music cut off. So Larry said, they're saying I killed my wife for you. When Marcus asks Lovelace if he'd be surprised to hear that Larry Rudolph killed his wife, Lovelace said, yeah, he'd be very surprised.

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I thought he was good for us. He said he didn't hear the whole conversation. He said he didn't think Larry did it. I might know only a small scope of Larry, and he could be anything outside of take 44, and I wouldn't know. But that's not for me to speculate.

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Ryan Lovelace was the prosecution's final witness, and after he testified, the government rested its case. The defense is ready to call its witnesses, and a very important one is firearms expert Luke Haig.

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As to the choices between suicide, a gun problem, mishandling of the gun by her husband, or a homicide, the only one of those four I was ever able to exclude was self inflicted. Was suicide. Haig's testimony left the door open to the very thing the zambian police had already concluded, an accidental discharge. You know, the marshals were telling us, you know, you guys are winning. And so, you know, each day we heard that, we would go back to the hotel and thought, man, we just want another day of trial.

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The defense is basking in all of these good vibes. We're doing great. We're gonna win the case. But then they make a potentially risky decision, and that's to bring Larry Rudolph, the defendant, to the stand. Larry wanted to testify.

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He told us from day one that he had nothing to hide. It was almost out of body for us to be in that courtroom watching your dad testify in his defense in a murder trial of your mother. It doesn't compute. He sat tall, looked straight at the jury, and told him in no uncertain terms, I did not kill my wife. Not for the money, not for any woman.

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He choked up. He looked at his kids, and he said, I'm sorry you've had to go through this. He cried. When he started crying, I actually wrote in my notebook. He's crying, but there's no tears.

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The problem with putting your client on the stand is that the other side gets their crack at him. As the government was questioning him, I felt him shift. His personality, really shift to now I'm nervous. And before, he was very confident. Remember how back in 2012, Larry sued Safari Club International and some of its board members for defamation?

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Well, in this trial, Rudolph had to admit he lied under oath about not being an adulterer during depositions for that lawsuit. And it's a detail that is not lost on the jury. Just sitting up there and telling us he lied on that deposition of his own lawsuit. Mind blowing. I now looked at him as a liardeh, that everything that came out of Larry's mouth would be a lie from that point forward.

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On the stand, Larry would also reveal that about two years after Bianca's death, he found the shotgun involved in the shooting inside his garage. He would also tell the jury that he dismantled the gun and then had a trash removal service haul it away. And then the very guy who brags about his prowess as a hunter says, well, you know, I'm not a gun guy. Not so good for the defense.

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He's a professional hunter. He uses guns all the time. Anybody with any common sense does not throw a gun away and paid $100 in cash. In my mind, I'm thinking, why would you pay cash? Well, maybe it's because you don't want a trail to leave people to the guy who took the gun away.

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Rudolph also testified that he was in the bathroom when he heard the shot and frantically rushed to Bianca's side. Jurors are shown photos of Larry after the shooting, where he appears understandably distraught. But curiously, he's also neatly dressed in a tucked in shirt. That picture was taken 45 minutes later after the people had come into the room. You know, the whole shirt being tucked in, I think, was a throwaway argument from the government.

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And they scored. They threw a bunch of stuff against the wall, and that one stuck on the stand. You didn't know exactly what you would get from Larry Rudolph. You know, on one hand, he could be articulate, sharp to the point, self assured. On the other hand, he was foggy, vague, couldn't really get an answer out of him.

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He's a smart man. He's a doctor. And so for him to recall in great detail certain things, and then, oh, I forgot, or I don't remember. For other things, I think that really stood out to us. We know that the prosecution's case lacked the cold, hard, direct evidence.

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So everything turned into a referendum on Larry's character. What kind of guy is this? What will the jury be thinking when they get the case?

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When we started deliberating, it was definitely not unanimous one way or the other. When I signed the verdict sheet and gave it to the bailiff to give to the judge, the room was completely silent. We have to live with that verdict.

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After more than 50 witnesses and 13 days of testimony, the jury is behind closed doors. Usually juries come back on Friday afternoons with a verdict because they just want to go home, not this jury. Monday morning, attorneys walked into a quiet Denver courthouse to pace the hallways and to wait. When we started deliberating, we took a vote, and it was definitely not unanimous one way or the other. I think there were two.

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Not guilties, six guilties, and the rest were undecided. I was actually still processing information. Inside the jury room, the twelve jurors waded through a mountain of exhibits and witnessed testimony. You can call it an accident scene, you can call it a murder scene. But we, at the end of the day, have to figure out how the trigger got pulled and by whom.

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Coming back on Monday, I think people had calmed down and had time to process what we really saw. Then, after 13 hours of deliberation at 424 Monday afternoon, a verdict. I took a minute. I said, is everybody okay with this? Does everyone agree with this?

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Are we 100% sure? It felt very tense for myself and all the jurors. None of us were looking forward to that part at all. There was an entire row of reporters, of course, Laurie Milliron, sitting there with no emotion. Larry Rudolph's not showing emotion, really.

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David Marcus looked very, very nervous. When the jury says they have a verdict, and then waiting what seems like centuries for them to come back into the courtroom, it rips you up inside. When I signed the verdict sheet and gave it to the bailiff to give to the judge, the room was completely silent and nobody wanted to say anything. The jury comes in for watching their faces, and they are like soldiers. They don't look at anyone but the judge.

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On August 1, Larry Rudolph is found guilty of murdering his wife and of mail fraud for bilking insurance companies out of almost $5 million. A former Greensburg dentist has been found guilty of killing his wife on an african safari. When you hear the words, it's just like a hammer. Today, a jury in federal court found Lawrence Rudolph guilty of murdering his wife, Bianca Rudolph, and of defrauding multiple life insurance companies. This case was an exceptional example of the entire United States attorney's office, pulling together with our law enforcement partners to uncover the truth and to seek justice for a victim who had no other voice.

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This is a very, very difficult moment for us, and we're disappointed, really, really disappointed in the verdict. The trial was eye opening. Every day, going into that courtroom, I saw something new that broke my heart. We have to live with that verdict and with the evidence that we saw and heard. For the jurors, there were several key moments that turned the time.

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Too many stars had to line up for this just to be an accident. Larry was in the cabin. There was no way that Gunthereze was discharged by Bianca. There is no way that gun discharged accidentally. I think the outburst at stake, 44, was very eye opening.

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Nobody sits around and just makes a remark like that. That neatly tucked in shirt didn't quite fit the story of someone panicked, getting off of the toilet and running to the aid of his injured wife. If you truly were in a hurry, when you truly hopped up and ran to her aid, how are you so put together? I think when Larry testified, he hurt himself. A couple of people on the jury said that before he testified, they were so unsure.

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And then when he did testify, he really did change their mind into thinking that he was guilty. A lot of this was circumstantial until Larry got onto the stand and Larry started talking. Was Larry's downfall. Imagining looking at the mother of my two children and pulling a shotgun on them and killing them. That, to me, was one of the hardest things to understand and get past that someone was actually capable of doing that.

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That's a certain kind of evil, to kill the mother of your children.

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It's incomprehensible to me, but I sat through the trial. I saw the evidence, and I saw the verdict, and that's enough for me. Finally, it's time for Laurie Milliron and Larry Rudolph to part. He stands up. She's sitting down.

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She looks at him. He's going out with the us marshals. And right before he goes out the door, he looks at her, and he gives her the only signal he's given in the entire trial, it was a goodbye wave. And with that goodbye wave, the looming question, what is the fate of Lori Miliron?

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Near this morning, a former Greensburg dentist has been found guilty of killing his wife on an african safari and what prosecutors describe as a premeditated crime. Larry's case dominated the trial. At times, Lori just seemed to disappear. Lori Miliron was on trial, but it was easy to confuse Laurie with the slew of attorneys who were sitting there. She didn't wear an ankle monitor and left every day because she was out on bond.

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I didn't see a lot of emotion or movement out of Lori. She just pretty much sat there every day and looked straight ahead and didn't really look around much at the end of it. The jury found that Lori was guilty of accessory after the fact, obstruction, and two counts of the five perjury counts against her. I think she was incredibly shocked. She looked at the table and she was shaking her head no.

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The jury did not convict her on the perjury charges that were tied to Anna Grimley's story that Lori had given Larry a one year ultimatum to get rid of Bianca. They wanted to toss that out. That's fine. It didn't mean anything. The rest of it does.

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The whole story does. So I'm fine. I know my truth. She knows the truth. A Colorado court sentencing a dentist to life in prison for killing his wife on an african safari.

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Larry Rudolph gets a life sentence. And Lori Milliron, she gets 17 years. Now, that's more than the sentencing guidelines for her crimes, because according to the judge, she not only showed an unrepentant lack of remorse, she'd also taunted and tormented Bianca's children. Well, after my father's arrest, she, you know, became verbally abusive to my sister and I via text. It's part of the reason she was handed such a heavy sentence.

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After Larry was convicted, my thought was, he's where he belongs. He shouldn't be on the streets. He would do whatever he can to benefit himself. I believe that without the FBI's investigation, Larry Rudolph would have gotten away with the murder of his wife. You have a backdrop of one of the most beautiful places on earth, and you think that someone could calculate killing their wife in such an exotic place.

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I still wake up in the middle of the night and I think, this can't be real. This didn't really happen. If anyone could take anything away from this, that she, she was an amazing mother, and I miss her terribly.

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Doctor Larry Rudolph and Lori Milliron have appealed their convictions. Meantime, Miliron's release is scheduled for 2036. That's our program for tonight. Thanks so much for watching. I'm Deborah Roberts.

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And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 2020 and ABC News, good night.