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Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're a little too excited that the Texans veterans are reporting for training camp tomorrow. It's back. I'm Greg Rosenthal. Beyond lucky today to be joined in the studio by my friend Patrick Claybon. That's right. Football is back.

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It's back. A lot of people are back on their consoles for the first time in 15 years, celebrating college football returning. But yeah, we're here, Greg, and I'm excited. Coming up later, we're going to do some fake football stuff, which is a perfect offseason thing. But yeah, this is real life. I got travel schedules coming up. This all escalated very quickly.

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It is all happening. And yeah, you mentioned EA, the college football game coming out. We have Shook on later. He is the video game expert at the company, so we might have to talk a little College football later. You mentioned fake football. It's not fantasy, although you are a fantasy expert, and we're definitely going to hit fantasy. It was back in the day. I'm back in the fantasy game. I am in an actual league for the second time. I took about 12 years off and joined a league with a friend of mine last year. We'll talk fantasy throughout the season, but this isn't really that fantasy. This is an important moment on this show's history in which we're going to determine if you were going to take one player in the NFL and clone that player and put them at every single position on offense and defense to win the most amount of games, which player would you choose? We're going to have a little draft later.It's going to be fun. I also am excited because the news is starting to pick up. And today, not all of it's great news, I have to admit.

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But every day this week, we're going to be starting each day with the news. And let's get going.

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It would take you 6 hours to download this podcast if you were doing dial-up. Shout out to anybody who remembers that, by the way.

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I do. That was like late middle school and high school for me. It's a little jarring to hear Joe Buck. I have to get used to that, but I do like it. I don't like what we're starting the news today, but it really was the biggest football item to happen over the weekend and into Monday, which related to Jordan Addison, the Vikings wide receiver, who was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence on Friday near LAX here in Los Angeles. The California Highway Patrol, please confirm to our website, nfl. Com. They revealed that there was a disabled vehicle blocking lanes on I-105, and that was what they told us, that an officer arrived to the scene, a white Rolls-Royce was spotted with Addison asleep behind the wheel, and then he was arrested. Shortly thereafter, the Vikings released a statement saying they were aware of the arrest, and this is the second consecutive offseason. Addison encountered a legal issue on the road last July. He was cited for speeding and reckless driving in Minnesota for going 140 miles in a 55-mile-an-hour zone.

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It should go without saying, Don't drink and drive. I think that's the easiest and most responsible reaction that A lot of people have, is anger and frustration. We lose people every day. This is, again, as you mentioned, the second incident. The first time, it was just speeding. He was driving 140 miles an hour. Jordan Edison has got to figure out how he's going to comport himself in a vehicle. I would make the case that he shouldn't be behind the wheel of a vehicle at all at this point, not just from the standpoint of protecting himself. It's from the standpoint of protecting everybody. We have seen time and time again that these situations, not just with him, but with so many people keep reproducing themselves that it gets past the point of personal responsibility. It's on everybody else that's in the vicinity of these people. If you're serving these people, if you're around these people when they're drinking, to do everything you can to keep them from getting behind the wheel of that car. It's really frustrating. I really don't know what else to say.

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Yeah, there isn't much to say other than this is where the NFL will begin to look at the situation and we'll see if there's any punishment. There was not Last year, off of that incident, now this is two different incidents, and it's heartbreaking for it to happen just days after Addison's teammate, Kyrie Jackson, a fourth-round pick, died along with two high school teammates in a car accident where they were struck by another car. That was a situation where the investigators there believe alcohol may have been a contributing circumstance in the fatal crash, and that remains under investigation. So RIP to Kyrie Jackson, and we'll see what's next for Jordan Addison. But just considering where he is in terms of his importance to that offense, that really was the most noteworthy thing to have. And less noteworthy, but very interesting has been Devante Adams' summer, really week of just getting out there, which I appreciate as we're getting into training camp. He's given us a lot to talk about. Let's listen to him on the Up & Adam show with FanDuel with K Adams. Oh, he's in that ear. That's for sure. He's in the ear, but It's not as easy as it.

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Obviously, we can get together and talk about the old times and potential of doing this and that. But like I said, I'm a rater, and he knows that. So we'll maybe in the next lifetime. So people picked up the first part of this quote, which is about Aaron Rodgers. She asked him because there's just been a lot of conversation, would these two ever get back together, even at the golf tournament over the weekend, the celebrity golf tournament. Is this going to happen? And if you watch Adams on receiver, which I've only seen clips, but it didn't seem thrilled with how last season was going, but it just doesn't feel like it's something that could realistically happen, whether Aaron Rodgers wants it to or not.

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No. There was a couple of moments in that interview, and you heard it in that clip where Devante said, as I said. It's a thing that he's saying. It's a refrain, I am a rater. He also said, There's nothing I could do about it if they ship me off somewhere. But I am a rater, is the Devante Adams quote. If you do watch the receiver, I think, did you see the clip that I saw because I haven't watched the show either. But it's Devante, again, playing a lot. He's running a lot of routes. He is absolutely by himself on a corner route, and Jimmy G airmails him, and he goes to the sideline, and he's like, This is ridiculous. I've got to get out of here. I think seeing those moments may make you feel that... Because Devante playing the football game is different than him thinking about and making decisions. I think the whole team was frustrated. It's a different situation. But in terms of her union, I don't think Devante needs Aaron Rodgers. He just needs competent offense and quarterback.

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I don't know if he's going to get that, but one of the most fascinating clips from that show was he was quoted saying, I signed off on that to do two consecutive tags, then you could have packaged together an offer. That's two years. That makes sense for both parties.It's what they've done in the past, and it's one of the difficult things with the salary cap. It depends which team you are, but we're seeing this in the NBA, too. You do have to make choices, and Jamar Chase is going to get that big contract. In my mind, I believe he will, and it is tough to fit it all in. Some Falcons news this week. I thought this was an interesting quote. Got a lot of pop. Zack Robinson, the new offensive coordinator, was quoted saying, Kyle Pitz is, Basically learning two positions, wide receiver and tight end. Is it finally the year for Kyle Pitz?I think it's the year. And I know that there's people who are delving into the lineup stats, and they saw how Which Kyle pits lined up wide last year is 29 %. And things didn't necessarily go great when he was lined out wide. But I think the important context there is Kyle pits was hurt for a majority of the season. And when that's your body type, a big, physical, fast guy, and he's out there doing something that people his size normally don't do, when you're hurt, it's more difficult to do that. And then we necessary, but I know it now.Why do we have access to that?It is weird. I love that Belichick had to be part of this funny social clip. I'm curious how they'll use him if he'll be actually in a studio with them or if he has a deal because NFL Films produces that where they just throw to him and he's doing a really cool film session somewhere else, which would be awesome. I will watch inside the NFL. I was not a regular Other viewer last year, although I did want to see how Jay Cutler was doing once at least. I guess he's not on the show anymore, so Belichick is replaced.Bounced for Bill.That's too bad. Finally, I did just mention Some sad news in the NFL this season. Lost a couple great individuals, Jacobi Jones and Monique Kiffin. Let's start with Jacobi Jones, who died peacefully at the age of 40. His family He was originally released in a statement through the NFLPA, played nine seasons, four different teams, including five seasons with the Texans who drafted him, and then three with the Ravens, where he was an all-pro and a Super Bowl and playoff hero.Yeah, three days. After his 40th birthday, Jacobi Jones, from New Orleans, Louisiana, had that kickoff return for a shutdown in his hometown in the Super Bowl. Of course, the miracle in Denver, he was such a big part of that Super Bowl run and a joy for everybody to talk to. It's a reminder that no matter how invincible we feel, people got to stay up on everything. Not I don't know what happened, but we were robbed of a lot of years of Jacobi Jones.Andre Johnson, his former teammate, just called him the Life of the Party. That dude was so Nola. He's so New Orleans. I rewatched this series. It was called Untold Stories with Master Tesfassian on Bleacher Report. He did an episode where he was playing pool with Jacobi Jones. That was every episode where he played pool with him. That dude is just so New Orleans, and you can see how everyone just loved that dude. Just for For many listeners who don't remember that run, just quickly putting it in context, divisional round, Ravens are down seven with 40 seconds to go. They have 70 yards to go. They need a countdown. Jacobi Jones' speed is such that he just busts right through bracket coverage. I'm not going to call out those defensive players. I know who they were. But if they don't misjudge just this incredible speed, they very likely win that game. The Raven Super Bowl run never happens. Joe Flacko with a beautiful ball gets it to him. Seventy yards, they win in overtime. Then you get to the Super Bowl. Jacobi Jones in his hometown. This is a performance that would win MVP most of the years.I get why Flacko got it. I don't have a problem with that, but it would normally win MVP. He's so open in the first half. He's able to fall down, making sure he catches his pass that Flacko couldn't get everything on because he's getting pressured. Falls down to catch it, to make sure he gets it, gets up, and then makes a couple of guys miss on the way to a 58-yard countdown. And that is before the 108-yard countdown. And that's just an incredible run. And that was the last countdown they scored in that game, by the way. It was 28 to 6 at that point. They almost did not win that game. If they did not get that touch on, they not win that game. All the memories of him and John Harbaugh had a great memory of remembering Jacobi talking to his mom in the end zone during a snowstorm against the Vikings. Right after he talks to his mom, he takes one to the house. He was a legend. Monte Kippen was a legend, too. Didn't want to miss this, that he passed away at the age of 84. Just one of the most influential defensive coordinators of my lifetime.Football Outsiders has been measuring defense I think they've gone back at least 30 something years now, and the 2002 Bucks were the best defense they've ever recorded. Here were their rankings, by the way, in efficiency in DVOA during that stretch. Second, fifth, second, first, that's the all-time year. Third, a couple more top 10s, couple more top sixes. I mean, that is a long run, and everyone that played for him just spoke of what a fatherly great teacher he was and just what a presence. He definitely changed the game. Only so many people change the game. I think he should be a Hall of Famer for what he did. Yeah.Tony Dungy laughs it off when people credit the Tampa, too. He's like, Bud Carson and Chuck Noel brought it to me. And that's where me and Monte came up with this thing. But for most of us, we hear Tampa, too, and we think Monte Kiffin and the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. Just in the way that going through the seasons and communicating with media, communicating with fans, it brought a greater understanding of football. It wasn't just coaching the team. It was a part of coaching us as well. It's just a legend.A guy I always just appreciated from Dungey and Kiffin when Dungey left to go to Indianapolis because Kiffin stayed there, of course, with John Gruden. That number one best defense of all time was with John Grunin as a head coach and Kiffin really running the defense. I just appreciated that they could handle one of the most personality-filled locker rooms on Earth. They weren't afraid of that. They embraced it. Sometimes it got too much. But Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp, and John Lynch, and just that whole crew, Ron De Barber. They welcomed everyone. They did a great job coaching them up. Rest in peace to Monty Kiffin and Jacobi Jones. We're going to come back after the break, and we're going to do one of the most important things we will ever do on NFL Daily. It's back on NFL Daily, and we needed something regal. We needed something that said, your life's about to change. Which we're going to solve one of the greatest questions you can ask, what player would you draft of any NFL player right now if you had to clone them and to put them at every position on the NFL field and win a game.Twenty-two times. One of them is going to have to kick, perhaps punt, depending on your offensive strategy. And that's the beauty of this completely preposterous hypothetical idea, disregarding all the moral implications of cloning people.No. Yeah, we don't want to think about that.But essentially, and because I don't want to run afoul of any massive corporate entities, I will call this the Preface. Because again, apologies in advance. I celebrate the entire fictional universe surrounding books, movies, television shows, and Star Wars.I think people know that.Okay. This is the large scale conflict between replicated individuals.Okay.Large scale conflict between- Because you could call it a war, right? You could call it Clones. Just like the Super Bowl, we're the only people that can say Super Bowl, and you have to watch cringe television where they call it the big game. I'm going to be extra safe because that's where I am right now. We are going to draft. I'll give Greg the first overall pick.Wow, you're just making that decision that I have the first pick. I like you taking charge. And this was Patrick's idea, and I thought, I want everyone to come to this show with ideas, and it is a perfect idea this week. Okay, I am going to go first. I wanted you to because I was very curious where you go. But I am going to go first. I should hide my draft board from you. Again, you're going to line them up on the offensive line. You're going to line them up at tight end. You can go two tight ends if you want.Yeah, your offense is up to you.But you're going to have to have some line play. You're going to have to have them at quarterback. My first pick in this clone draft, replicated individuals, draft, whatever, Josh Allen. Here's where I started. Number one, But I think that quarterbacks are still important in this game of football. And so to me, the ultimate player here, and I'm not going to pick all quarterbacks because that would be boring, but the ultimate player here would be a quarterback that also has size so that they can hold up. They're going to have to play defense. They're going to have to play the offensive line, and they're going to need some want to, I'm going to say. They're going to want to have to get dirty. Josh Allen is going to have to want to block for Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is going to have to, and I'm not talking about Joshua Heinz Allen. No, do it Josh. Josh Allen is going to have to get after the quarterback, and no matter what clone team you put against him, he's going to have to cover. I just thought of all the possible options, and I went through different quarterbacks, and maybe you'll draft one, maybe you won't.He wasn't the first one I thought of, but the more and more I thought about it, I thought he would have the desire. I thought, Obviously, he can play the quarterback. We're going to need to run the ball quite a bit. I think he could handle the other positions better in aggregate than any other quarterback out there. He's my number one overall pick.When we initially did this exercise, it was, I believe, in 2018. From 2011 to 2019, Cameron Jarrele Newton was the obvious answer.Yes.The obvious answer to this exercise, I think all time, Kam has a very good case. Josh Allen is it right now. So you've taken my number one overall selection.Yes. Because it took me a while to get there. Look, the dumbest thing I've ever said on this show, maybe not that dumb, because it was like, I said a lot of dumb things. But first couple of years, I kept saying, Oh, Josh Allen could be a poor man's Cam Newton if he ever got there. And so I was thinking that way. Now, I have to admit, even as a Cam Newton fan, he has gotten there and excelled and exceeded whatever I expected. But very similar players. I think the most similar to Cam of any player that's come along since.Yeah, and hopefully, the Bills don't run him into the ground and he's got a busted shoulder.His durability was part of it, too. I thought of other potential physical I have multiple quarterbacks, Jalen Hertz and Anthony Richardson and stuff, and I thought, you know what, Josh Allen, I've seen him out there year after year, and he's just always that dude.Okay. And I had the potential, again, to have multiple quarterbacks on my board, but I think for the sake of playing out this large scale conflict between replicated individuals. I'm going to have to take a defender off the board. We see him in multiple sports. The athleticism is there. It's clear. And I think our offense may suffer, but our defense is going to be very difficult, specifically for the Josh Allen teams, right? For Anthony Richardson teams to deal with. So with the second pick in the large scale conflict between replicated individuals, I would like to take Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns.Yeah, he's on my board. I think if you're running, and I think you're going to have to on offense, a triple option type of offense. I mean, 3 Miles Garrett would be pretty crazy. If you're hiking it to Gareth, and he's got Gareth next to him, and then Gareth on the other side, and you got to have a lot of faith in your coaching. But this was going to be my pitch because Gareth is on my board. It's funny, we went in the same place. I just think because he's going to be almost impossible to score on, but I do think that offense could work.The offense could work. Clearly, we're going to try to slow the game down, depending on the matchup, because you go up against one of these OL teams. Things get very dicey. But I do I think we're running the ball, and it's man across the board. We're just going to try to out-athlete you. If you watch the Miles Garrett basketball highlights, it's terrorizing, it's fear-inducing. And so that's why, after you took my first pick, I will go with Miles Garrett at number two.I think the two scariest positions, most impressive in real life when you see them in our defense are ultimately a great edge rusher, and then actually a great tight end. If you see them in real life, You're like, Those are the two scariest best athletes. And so you pick the scariest and best athlete of them all at that position. I want to watch that team. I'm sad. He's off my board. I'm scrambling. But I'm going to take Panay Sewell with my second pick.We spend too much time together.We've seen him. I mean, this guy can move. You mentioned the offensive line teams. There's a couple of options, but Panay Sewell is my first tackle that I would choose Because the hands are silky. They're soft. We've seen him move in space. Five Panesuils on the offensive line is just preposterous. We're going to be able to run the ball, and I think Panesuel could run the ball.Yeah, and it creates difficulty for my potential cornerback teams, because I did think that there were some big corners. I don't know that they can compete with the Panay Sewell team or the Miles-Garrett team, but it becomes that much more difficult, considering run scheme and versatility. It makes me think about the absurd arm length conversations.If the rules are the same in the replicated individuals league, you throw the Josh Allen team. I don't know if there's a cornerback and wide receiver team. I mean, it's still going to be tough for Panay to get hands on those wide receivers. Now, can the Panay quarterback have enough time to fight? It's going to be an issue. Yeah.Well, is he throwing the ball? Is our second question.I guess he's not much.It's probably not. It's one of those things. And styles make fights. But some of these teams, they're just not going to be able to compete. And that's why with my second pick, and I believe it's probably going to be on your board as well, I will take George Kittle of the San Francisco 49ers, Because, again, in this league, the run game is paramount because there are several teams that just aren't going to be able to throw the ball. I don't know how much we've seen their social clips of George Kittle throwing the ball. I think he could get it out there, too, George Kittle.I.Love the research he did.Very well.But I also think it provides us with a well-rounded team that may not be able to beat out over the years on social saying some similar things. Yeah, and it's very sad to see it go. And I think it was Mark on some podcasts I listened to outside of the around the NFL that would talk about, we know this isn't going to last forever. At some point, it's going to come to an end. Obviously, I wish you guys had a few more years running, but I'm excited to see what Mark and Dan have for us. I'm exciting. You're off to a good start. You've had some good guests. I think probably number one on this list is talking right now. Oh, yeah. We'll see how that goes. We'll see how it goes. And obviously, I'd love to contribute to whatever you're doing in the future.I love it. The unbridled confidence is why... Look, hey, the reality is when it came time for best man, there's nick Westling. I think it was just because for people that don't know, not only do you look the most like Chris, you're very different from him because he used to love you. You created your own... It was like you created your own alternate universe, nick, that you live in. And it's a beautiful world. And I just like to be part of this alternate universe. I know your brothers probably have mixed emotions about being part of it, even your wife, maybe something. But I know Keisha loves it, and it is really cool. You guys went to the Reds game recently with Keisha and Lincoln, and all six remaining West Iseline brothers. So that, man, when I saw that picture, it reminded me of the Super Bowl picture. Of course, your brother Mikey wasn't there. Eddie wasn't at the Super Bowl, I don't believe, either. And so it was all the brothers. Daddy made it. Oh, he did. That's right.Yeah, he made it there.And it was all the brothers and Lincoln and Keisha. And so, man, I just know at a Reds game, man, I know you must have felt Chris real strong that day, and it's awesome that she's coming to visit you and that you guys come together like that.Absolutely. She's got a home anytime she wants right here in Cincinnati, but she's doing great. She's killing it with her job and what she's doing with some of the media and editing. So I'm happy for her. Obviously, it was great to see her in Lincoln. Lincoln is getting big, big fast, and he's a little athlete. I can't wait till you're talking about him, postgame on Sunday, 15 or 20 years from now. That'll be pretty awesome. Or maybe he'll be wearing the badge here right here. Okay. He's a little soccer player. Let's hope he can keep that little athlete in him, and we'll see what happens down the road.Built like a soccer player like you. Yes, he is. Like Wes, who's great. When I saw him doing some baseball drills, that hit hard. It's beautiful. It's hard to put into one word all those feelings because it's bittersweet, but it's It's amazing as well. Not bitter sweet, though, to talk to you. I love the unbridled confidence, not just in your soccer team and your great looks, but also in your ability as an analyst. We're going to try to tap into that more throughout the course of the season, nick, but it was great to have you on. Yeah, that's it for this show. I want to thank Patrick Claybon for helping me out, drafting all the clones, the large scale conflict between replicated individuals. Thank you again, nick.Absolutely. Heed the call, Greg.Heed the call for sure. Till Wednesday. See you next time.

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to do two consecutive tags, then you could have packaged together an offer. That's two years. That makes sense for both parties.

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It's what they've done in the past, and it's one of the difficult things with the salary cap. It depends which team you are, but we're seeing this in the NBA, too. You do have to make choices, and Jamar Chase is going to get that big contract. In my mind, I believe he will, and it is tough to fit it all in. Some Falcons news this week. I thought this was an interesting quote. Got a lot of pop. Zack Robinson, the new offensive coordinator, was quoted saying, Kyle Pitz is, Basically learning two positions, wide receiver and tight end. Is it finally the year for Kyle Pitz?

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I think it's the year. And I know that there's people who are delving into the lineup stats, and they saw how Which Kyle pits lined up wide last year is 29 %. And things didn't necessarily go great when he was lined out wide. But I think the important context there is Kyle pits was hurt for a majority of the season. And when that's your body type, a big, physical, fast guy, and he's out there doing something that people his size normally don't do, when you're hurt, it's more difficult to do that. And then we necessary, but I know it now.Why do we have access to that?It is weird. I love that Belichick had to be part of this funny social clip. I'm curious how they'll use him if he'll be actually in a studio with them or if he has a deal because NFL Films produces that where they just throw to him and he's doing a really cool film session somewhere else, which would be awesome. I will watch inside the NFL. I was not a regular Other viewer last year, although I did want to see how Jay Cutler was doing once at least. I guess he's not on the show anymore, so Belichick is replaced.Bounced for Bill.That's too bad. Finally, I did just mention Some sad news in the NFL this season. Lost a couple great individuals, Jacobi Jones and Monique Kiffin. Let's start with Jacobi Jones, who died peacefully at the age of 40. His family He was originally released in a statement through the NFLPA, played nine seasons, four different teams, including five seasons with the Texans who drafted him, and then three with the Ravens, where he was an all-pro and a Super Bowl and playoff hero.Yeah, three days. After his 40th birthday, Jacobi Jones, from New Orleans, Louisiana, had that kickoff return for a shutdown in his hometown in the Super Bowl. Of course, the miracle in Denver, he was such a big part of that Super Bowl run and a joy for everybody to talk to. It's a reminder that no matter how invincible we feel, people got to stay up on everything. Not I don't know what happened, but we were robbed of a lot of years of Jacobi Jones.Andre Johnson, his former teammate, just called him the Life of the Party. That dude was so Nola. He's so New Orleans. I rewatched this series. It was called Untold Stories with Master Tesfassian on Bleacher Report. He did an episode where he was playing pool with Jacobi Jones. That was every episode where he played pool with him. That dude is just so New Orleans, and you can see how everyone just loved that dude. Just for For many listeners who don't remember that run, just quickly putting it in context, divisional round, Ravens are down seven with 40 seconds to go. They have 70 yards to go. They need a countdown. Jacobi Jones' speed is such that he just busts right through bracket coverage. I'm not going to call out those defensive players. I know who they were. But if they don't misjudge just this incredible speed, they very likely win that game. The Raven Super Bowl run never happens. Joe Flacko with a beautiful ball gets it to him. Seventy yards, they win in overtime. Then you get to the Super Bowl. Jacobi Jones in his hometown. This is a performance that would win MVP most of the years.I get why Flacko got it. I don't have a problem with that, but it would normally win MVP. He's so open in the first half. He's able to fall down, making sure he catches his pass that Flacko couldn't get everything on because he's getting pressured. Falls down to catch it, to make sure he gets it, gets up, and then makes a couple of guys miss on the way to a 58-yard countdown. And that is before the 108-yard countdown. And that's just an incredible run. And that was the last countdown they scored in that game, by the way. It was 28 to 6 at that point. They almost did not win that game. If they did not get that touch on, they not win that game. All the memories of him and John Harbaugh had a great memory of remembering Jacobi talking to his mom in the end zone during a snowstorm against the Vikings. Right after he talks to his mom, he takes one to the house. He was a legend. Monte Kippen was a legend, too. Didn't want to miss this, that he passed away at the age of 84. Just one of the most influential defensive coordinators of my lifetime.Football Outsiders has been measuring defense I think they've gone back at least 30 something years now, and the 2002 Bucks were the best defense they've ever recorded. Here were their rankings, by the way, in efficiency in DVOA during that stretch. Second, fifth, second, first, that's the all-time year. Third, a couple more top 10s, couple more top sixes. I mean, that is a long run, and everyone that played for him just spoke of what a fatherly great teacher he was and just what a presence. He definitely changed the game. Only so many people change the game. I think he should be a Hall of Famer for what he did. Yeah.Tony Dungy laughs it off when people credit the Tampa, too. He's like, Bud Carson and Chuck Noel brought it to me. And that's where me and Monte came up with this thing. But for most of us, we hear Tampa, too, and we think Monte Kiffin and the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. Just in the way that going through the seasons and communicating with media, communicating with fans, it brought a greater understanding of football. It wasn't just coaching the team. It was a part of coaching us as well. It's just a legend.A guy I always just appreciated from Dungey and Kiffin when Dungey left to go to Indianapolis because Kiffin stayed there, of course, with John Gruden. That number one best defense of all time was with John Grunin as a head coach and Kiffin really running the defense. I just appreciated that they could handle one of the most personality-filled locker rooms on Earth. They weren't afraid of that. They embraced it. Sometimes it got too much. But Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp, and John Lynch, and just that whole crew, Ron De Barber. They welcomed everyone. They did a great job coaching them up. Rest in peace to Monty Kiffin and Jacobi Jones. We're going to come back after the break, and we're going to do one of the most important things we will ever do on NFL Daily. It's back on NFL Daily, and we needed something regal. We needed something that said, your life's about to change. Which we're going to solve one of the greatest questions you can ask, what player would you draft of any NFL player right now if you had to clone them and to put them at every position on the NFL field and win a game.Twenty-two times. One of them is going to have to kick, perhaps punt, depending on your offensive strategy. And that's the beauty of this completely preposterous hypothetical idea, disregarding all the moral implications of cloning people.No. Yeah, we don't want to think about that.But essentially, and because I don't want to run afoul of any massive corporate entities, I will call this the Preface. Because again, apologies in advance. I celebrate the entire fictional universe surrounding books, movies, television shows, and Star Wars.I think people know that.Okay. This is the large scale conflict between replicated individuals.Okay.Large scale conflict between- Because you could call it a war, right? You could call it Clones. Just like the Super Bowl, we're the only people that can say Super Bowl, and you have to watch cringe television where they call it the big game. I'm going to be extra safe because that's where I am right now. We are going to draft. I'll give Greg the first overall pick.Wow, you're just making that decision that I have the first pick. I like you taking charge. And this was Patrick's idea, and I thought, I want everyone to come to this show with ideas, and it is a perfect idea this week. Okay, I am going to go first. I wanted you to because I was very curious where you go. But I am going to go first. I should hide my draft board from you. Again, you're going to line them up on the offensive line. You're going to line them up at tight end. You can go two tight ends if you want.Yeah, your offense is up to you.But you're going to have to have some line play. You're going to have to have them at quarterback. My first pick in this clone draft, replicated individuals, draft, whatever, Josh Allen. Here's where I started. Number one, But I think that quarterbacks are still important in this game of football. And so to me, the ultimate player here, and I'm not going to pick all quarterbacks because that would be boring, but the ultimate player here would be a quarterback that also has size so that they can hold up. They're going to have to play defense. They're going to have to play the offensive line, and they're going to need some want to, I'm going to say. They're going to want to have to get dirty. Josh Allen is going to have to want to block for Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is going to have to, and I'm not talking about Joshua Heinz Allen. No, do it Josh. Josh Allen is going to have to get after the quarterback, and no matter what clone team you put against him, he's going to have to cover. I just thought of all the possible options, and I went through different quarterbacks, and maybe you'll draft one, maybe you won't.He wasn't the first one I thought of, but the more and more I thought about it, I thought he would have the desire. I thought, Obviously, he can play the quarterback. We're going to need to run the ball quite a bit. I think he could handle the other positions better in aggregate than any other quarterback out there. He's my number one overall pick.When we initially did this exercise, it was, I believe, in 2018. From 2011 to 2019, Cameron Jarrele Newton was the obvious answer.Yes.The obvious answer to this exercise, I think all time, Kam has a very good case. Josh Allen is it right now. So you've taken my number one overall selection.Yes. Because it took me a while to get there. Look, the dumbest thing I've ever said on this show, maybe not that dumb, because it was like, I said a lot of dumb things. But first couple of years, I kept saying, Oh, Josh Allen could be a poor man's Cam Newton if he ever got there. And so I was thinking that way. Now, I have to admit, even as a Cam Newton fan, he has gotten there and excelled and exceeded whatever I expected. But very similar players. I think the most similar to Cam of any player that's come along since.Yeah, and hopefully, the Bills don't run him into the ground and he's got a busted shoulder.His durability was part of it, too. I thought of other potential physical I have multiple quarterbacks, Jalen Hertz and Anthony Richardson and stuff, and I thought, you know what, Josh Allen, I've seen him out there year after year, and he's just always that dude.Okay. And I had the potential, again, to have multiple quarterbacks on my board, but I think for the sake of playing out this large scale conflict between replicated individuals. I'm going to have to take a defender off the board. We see him in multiple sports. The athleticism is there. It's clear. And I think our offense may suffer, but our defense is going to be very difficult, specifically for the Josh Allen teams, right? For Anthony Richardson teams to deal with. So with the second pick in the large scale conflict between replicated individuals, I would like to take Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns.Yeah, he's on my board. I think if you're running, and I think you're going to have to on offense, a triple option type of offense. I mean, 3 Miles Garrett would be pretty crazy. If you're hiking it to Gareth, and he's got Gareth next to him, and then Gareth on the other side, and you got to have a lot of faith in your coaching. But this was going to be my pitch because Gareth is on my board. It's funny, we went in the same place. I just think because he's going to be almost impossible to score on, but I do think that offense could work.The offense could work. Clearly, we're going to try to slow the game down, depending on the matchup, because you go up against one of these OL teams. Things get very dicey. But I do I think we're running the ball, and it's man across the board. We're just going to try to out-athlete you. If you watch the Miles Garrett basketball highlights, it's terrorizing, it's fear-inducing. And so that's why, after you took my first pick, I will go with Miles Garrett at number two.I think the two scariest positions, most impressive in real life when you see them in our defense are ultimately a great edge rusher, and then actually a great tight end. If you see them in real life, You're like, Those are the two scariest best athletes. And so you pick the scariest and best athlete of them all at that position. I want to watch that team. I'm sad. He's off my board. I'm scrambling. But I'm going to take Panay Sewell with my second pick.We spend too much time together.We've seen him. I mean, this guy can move. You mentioned the offensive line teams. There's a couple of options, but Panay Sewell is my first tackle that I would choose Because the hands are silky. They're soft. We've seen him move in space. Five Panesuils on the offensive line is just preposterous. We're going to be able to run the ball, and I think Panesuel could run the ball.Yeah, and it creates difficulty for my potential cornerback teams, because I did think that there were some big corners. I don't know that they can compete with the Panay Sewell team or the Miles-Garrett team, but it becomes that much more difficult, considering run scheme and versatility. It makes me think about the absurd arm length conversations.If the rules are the same in the replicated individuals league, you throw the Josh Allen team. I don't know if there's a cornerback and wide receiver team. I mean, it's still going to be tough for Panay to get hands on those wide receivers. Now, can the Panay quarterback have enough time to fight? It's going to be an issue. Yeah.Well, is he throwing the ball? Is our second question.I guess he's not much.It's probably not. It's one of those things. And styles make fights. But some of these teams, they're just not going to be able to compete. And that's why with my second pick, and I believe it's probably going to be on your board as well, I will take George Kittle of the San Francisco 49ers, Because, again, in this league, the run game is paramount because there are several teams that just aren't going to be able to throw the ball. I don't know how much we've seen their social clips of George Kittle throwing the ball. I think he could get it out there, too, George Kittle.I.Love the research he did.Very well.But I also think it provides us with a well-rounded team that may not be able to beat out over the years on social saying some similar things. Yeah, and it's very sad to see it go. And I think it was Mark on some podcasts I listened to outside of the around the NFL that would talk about, we know this isn't going to last forever. At some point, it's going to come to an end. Obviously, I wish you guys had a few more years running, but I'm excited to see what Mark and Dan have for us. I'm exciting. You're off to a good start. You've had some good guests. I think probably number one on this list is talking right now. Oh, yeah. We'll see how that goes. We'll see how it goes. And obviously, I'd love to contribute to whatever you're doing in the future.I love it. The unbridled confidence is why... Look, hey, the reality is when it came time for best man, there's nick Westling. I think it was just because for people that don't know, not only do you look the most like Chris, you're very different from him because he used to love you. You created your own... It was like you created your own alternate universe, nick, that you live in. And it's a beautiful world. And I just like to be part of this alternate universe. I know your brothers probably have mixed emotions about being part of it, even your wife, maybe something. But I know Keisha loves it, and it is really cool. You guys went to the Reds game recently with Keisha and Lincoln, and all six remaining West Iseline brothers. So that, man, when I saw that picture, it reminded me of the Super Bowl picture. Of course, your brother Mikey wasn't there. Eddie wasn't at the Super Bowl, I don't believe, either. And so it was all the brothers. Daddy made it. Oh, he did. That's right.Yeah, he made it there.And it was all the brothers and Lincoln and Keisha. And so, man, I just know at a Reds game, man, I know you must have felt Chris real strong that day, and it's awesome that she's coming to visit you and that you guys come together like that.Absolutely. She's got a home anytime she wants right here in Cincinnati, but she's doing great. She's killing it with her job and what she's doing with some of the media and editing. So I'm happy for her. Obviously, it was great to see her in Lincoln. Lincoln is getting big, big fast, and he's a little athlete. I can't wait till you're talking about him, postgame on Sunday, 15 or 20 years from now. That'll be pretty awesome. Or maybe he'll be wearing the badge here right here. Okay. He's a little soccer player. Let's hope he can keep that little athlete in him, and we'll see what happens down the road.Built like a soccer player like you. Yes, he is. Like Wes, who's great. When I saw him doing some baseball drills, that hit hard. It's beautiful. It's hard to put into one word all those feelings because it's bittersweet, but it's It's amazing as well. Not bitter sweet, though, to talk to you. I love the unbridled confidence, not just in your soccer team and your great looks, but also in your ability as an analyst. We're going to try to tap into that more throughout the course of the season, nick, but it was great to have you on. Yeah, that's it for this show. I want to thank Patrick Claybon for helping me out, drafting all the clones, the large scale conflict between replicated individuals. Thank you again, nick.Absolutely. Heed the call, Greg.Heed the call for sure. Till Wednesday. See you next time.

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necessary, but I know it now.

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Why do we have access to that?

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It is weird. I love that Belichick had to be part of this funny social clip. I'm curious how they'll use him if he'll be actually in a studio with them or if he has a deal because NFL Films produces that where they just throw to him and he's doing a really cool film session somewhere else, which would be awesome. I will watch inside the NFL. I was not a regular Other viewer last year, although I did want to see how Jay Cutler was doing once at least. I guess he's not on the show anymore, so Belichick is replaced.

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Bounced for Bill.

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That's too bad. Finally, I did just mention Some sad news in the NFL this season. Lost a couple great individuals, Jacobi Jones and Monique Kiffin. Let's start with Jacobi Jones, who died peacefully at the age of 40. His family He was originally released in a statement through the NFLPA, played nine seasons, four different teams, including five seasons with the Texans who drafted him, and then three with the Ravens, where he was an all-pro and a Super Bowl and playoff hero.

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Yeah, three days. After his 40th birthday, Jacobi Jones, from New Orleans, Louisiana, had that kickoff return for a shutdown in his hometown in the Super Bowl. Of course, the miracle in Denver, he was such a big part of that Super Bowl run and a joy for everybody to talk to. It's a reminder that no matter how invincible we feel, people got to stay up on everything. Not I don't know what happened, but we were robbed of a lot of years of Jacobi Jones.

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Andre Johnson, his former teammate, just called him the Life of the Party. That dude was so Nola. He's so New Orleans. I rewatched this series. It was called Untold Stories with Master Tesfassian on Bleacher Report. He did an episode where he was playing pool with Jacobi Jones. That was every episode where he played pool with him. That dude is just so New Orleans, and you can see how everyone just loved that dude. Just for For many listeners who don't remember that run, just quickly putting it in context, divisional round, Ravens are down seven with 40 seconds to go. They have 70 yards to go. They need a countdown. Jacobi Jones' speed is such that he just busts right through bracket coverage. I'm not going to call out those defensive players. I know who they were. But if they don't misjudge just this incredible speed, they very likely win that game. The Raven Super Bowl run never happens. Joe Flacko with a beautiful ball gets it to him. Seventy yards, they win in overtime. Then you get to the Super Bowl. Jacobi Jones in his hometown. This is a performance that would win MVP most of the years.

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I get why Flacko got it. I don't have a problem with that, but it would normally win MVP. He's so open in the first half. He's able to fall down, making sure he catches his pass that Flacko couldn't get everything on because he's getting pressured. Falls down to catch it, to make sure he gets it, gets up, and then makes a couple of guys miss on the way to a 58-yard countdown. And that is before the 108-yard countdown. And that's just an incredible run. And that was the last countdown they scored in that game, by the way. It was 28 to 6 at that point. They almost did not win that game. If they did not get that touch on, they not win that game. All the memories of him and John Harbaugh had a great memory of remembering Jacobi talking to his mom in the end zone during a snowstorm against the Vikings. Right after he talks to his mom, he takes one to the house. He was a legend. Monte Kippen was a legend, too. Didn't want to miss this, that he passed away at the age of 84. Just one of the most influential defensive coordinators of my lifetime.

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Football Outsiders has been measuring defense I think they've gone back at least 30 something years now, and the 2002 Bucks were the best defense they've ever recorded. Here were their rankings, by the way, in efficiency in DVOA during that stretch. Second, fifth, second, first, that's the all-time year. Third, a couple more top 10s, couple more top sixes. I mean, that is a long run, and everyone that played for him just spoke of what a fatherly great teacher he was and just what a presence. He definitely changed the game. Only so many people change the game. I think he should be a Hall of Famer for what he did. Yeah.

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Tony Dungy laughs it off when people credit the Tampa, too. He's like, Bud Carson and Chuck Noel brought it to me. And that's where me and Monte came up with this thing. But for most of us, we hear Tampa, too, and we think Monte Kiffin and the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. Just in the way that going through the seasons and communicating with media, communicating with fans, it brought a greater understanding of football. It wasn't just coaching the team. It was a part of coaching us as well. It's just a legend.

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A guy I always just appreciated from Dungey and Kiffin when Dungey left to go to Indianapolis because Kiffin stayed there, of course, with John Gruden. That number one best defense of all time was with John Grunin as a head coach and Kiffin really running the defense. I just appreciated that they could handle one of the most personality-filled locker rooms on Earth. They weren't afraid of that. They embraced it. Sometimes it got too much. But Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp, and John Lynch, and just that whole crew, Ron De Barber. They welcomed everyone. They did a great job coaching them up. Rest in peace to Monty Kiffin and Jacobi Jones. We're going to come back after the break, and we're going to do one of the most important things we will ever do on NFL Daily. It's back on NFL Daily, and we needed something regal. We needed something that said, your life's about to change. Which we're going to solve one of the greatest questions you can ask, what player would you draft of any NFL player right now if you had to clone them and to put them at every position on the NFL field and win a game.

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Twenty-two times. One of them is going to have to kick, perhaps punt, depending on your offensive strategy. And that's the beauty of this completely preposterous hypothetical idea, disregarding all the moral implications of cloning people.

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No. Yeah, we don't want to think about that.

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But essentially, and because I don't want to run afoul of any massive corporate entities, I will call this the Preface. Because again, apologies in advance. I celebrate the entire fictional universe surrounding books, movies, television shows, and Star Wars.I think people know that.Okay. This is the large scale conflict between replicated individuals.

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Okay.

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Large scale conflict between- Because you could call it a war, right? You could call it Clones. Just like the Super Bowl, we're the only people that can say Super Bowl, and you have to watch cringe television where they call it the big game. I'm going to be extra safe because that's where I am right now. We are going to draft. I'll give Greg the first overall pick.

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Wow, you're just making that decision that I have the first pick. I like you taking charge. And this was Patrick's idea, and I thought, I want everyone to come to this show with ideas, and it is a perfect idea this week. Okay, I am going to go first. I wanted you to because I was very curious where you go. But I am going to go first. I should hide my draft board from you. Again, you're going to line them up on the offensive line. You're going to line them up at tight end. You can go two tight ends if you want.

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Yeah, your offense is up to you.

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But you're going to have to have some line play. You're going to have to have them at quarterback. My first pick in this clone draft, replicated individuals, draft, whatever, Josh Allen. Here's where I started. Number one, But I think that quarterbacks are still important in this game of football. And so to me, the ultimate player here, and I'm not going to pick all quarterbacks because that would be boring, but the ultimate player here would be a quarterback that also has size so that they can hold up. They're going to have to play defense. They're going to have to play the offensive line, and they're going to need some want to, I'm going to say. They're going to want to have to get dirty. Josh Allen is going to have to want to block for Josh Allen, and Josh Allen is going to have to, and I'm not talking about Joshua Heinz Allen. No, do it Josh. Josh Allen is going to have to get after the quarterback, and no matter what clone team you put against him, he's going to have to cover. I just thought of all the possible options, and I went through different quarterbacks, and maybe you'll draft one, maybe you won't.

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He wasn't the first one I thought of, but the more and more I thought about it, I thought he would have the desire. I thought, Obviously, he can play the quarterback. We're going to need to run the ball quite a bit. I think he could handle the other positions better in aggregate than any other quarterback out there. He's my number one overall pick.

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When we initially did this exercise, it was, I believe, in 2018. From 2011 to 2019, Cameron Jarrele Newton was the obvious answer.

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Yes.

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The obvious answer to this exercise, I think all time, Kam has a very good case. Josh Allen is it right now. So you've taken my number one overall selection.

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Yes. Because it took me a while to get there. Look, the dumbest thing I've ever said on this show, maybe not that dumb, because it was like, I said a lot of dumb things. But first couple of years, I kept saying, Oh, Josh Allen could be a poor man's Cam Newton if he ever got there. And so I was thinking that way. Now, I have to admit, even as a Cam Newton fan, he has gotten there and excelled and exceeded whatever I expected. But very similar players. I think the most similar to Cam of any player that's come along since.

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Yeah, and hopefully, the Bills don't run him into the ground and he's got a busted shoulder.

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His durability was part of it, too. I thought of other potential physical I have multiple quarterbacks, Jalen Hertz and Anthony Richardson and stuff, and I thought, you know what, Josh Allen, I've seen him out there year after year, and he's just always that dude.

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Okay. And I had the potential, again, to have multiple quarterbacks on my board, but I think for the sake of playing out this large scale conflict between replicated individuals. I'm going to have to take a defender off the board. We see him in multiple sports. The athleticism is there. It's clear. And I think our offense may suffer, but our defense is going to be very difficult, specifically for the Josh Allen teams, right? For Anthony Richardson teams to deal with. So with the second pick in the large scale conflict between replicated individuals, I would like to take Miles Garrett, the Cleveland Browns.

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Yeah, he's on my board. I think if you're running, and I think you're going to have to on offense, a triple option type of offense. I mean, 3 Miles Garrett would be pretty crazy. If you're hiking it to Gareth, and he's got Gareth next to him, and then Gareth on the other side, and you got to have a lot of faith in your coaching. But this was going to be my pitch because Gareth is on my board. It's funny, we went in the same place. I just think because he's going to be almost impossible to score on, but I do think that offense could work.

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The offense could work. Clearly, we're going to try to slow the game down, depending on the matchup, because you go up against one of these OL teams. Things get very dicey. But I do I think we're running the ball, and it's man across the board. We're just going to try to out-athlete you. If you watch the Miles Garrett basketball highlights, it's terrorizing, it's fear-inducing. And so that's why, after you took my first pick, I will go with Miles Garrett at number two.

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I think the two scariest positions, most impressive in real life when you see them in our defense are ultimately a great edge rusher, and then actually a great tight end. If you see them in real life, You're like, Those are the two scariest best athletes. And so you pick the scariest and best athlete of them all at that position. I want to watch that team. I'm sad. He's off my board. I'm scrambling. But I'm going to take Panay Sewell with my second pick.

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We spend too much time together.

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We've seen him. I mean, this guy can move. You mentioned the offensive line teams. There's a couple of options, but Panay Sewell is my first tackle that I would choose Because the hands are silky. They're soft. We've seen him move in space. Five Panesuils on the offensive line is just preposterous. We're going to be able to run the ball, and I think Panesuel could run the ball.

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Yeah, and it creates difficulty for my potential cornerback teams, because I did think that there were some big corners. I don't know that they can compete with the Panay Sewell team or the Miles-Garrett team, but it becomes that much more difficult, considering run scheme and versatility. It makes me think about the absurd arm length conversations.

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If the rules are the same in the replicated individuals league, you throw the Josh Allen team. I don't know if there's a cornerback and wide receiver team. I mean, it's still going to be tough for Panay to get hands on those wide receivers. Now, can the Panay quarterback have enough time to fight? It's going to be an issue. Yeah.

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Well, is he throwing the ball? Is our second question.

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I guess he's not much.

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It's probably not. It's one of those things. And styles make fights. But some of these teams, they're just not going to be able to compete. And that's why with my second pick, and I believe it's probably going to be on your board as well, I will take George Kittle of the San Francisco 49ers, Because, again, in this league, the run game is paramount because there are several teams that just aren't going to be able to throw the ball. I don't know how much we've seen their social clips of George Kittle throwing the ball. I think he could get it out there, too, George Kittle.I.

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Love the research he did.Very well.

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But I also think it provides us with a well-rounded team that may not be able to beat out over the years on social saying some similar things. Yeah, and it's very sad to see it go. And I think it was Mark on some podcasts I listened to outside of the around the NFL that would talk about, we know this isn't going to last forever. At some point, it's going to come to an end. Obviously, I wish you guys had a few more years running, but I'm excited to see what Mark and Dan have for us. I'm exciting. You're off to a good start. You've had some good guests. I think probably number one on this list is talking right now. Oh, yeah. We'll see how that goes. We'll see how it goes. And obviously, I'd love to contribute to whatever you're doing in the future.I love it. The unbridled confidence is why... Look, hey, the reality is when it came time for best man, there's nick Westling. I think it was just because for people that don't know, not only do you look the most like Chris, you're very different from him because he used to love you. You created your own... It was like you created your own alternate universe, nick, that you live in. And it's a beautiful world. And I just like to be part of this alternate universe. I know your brothers probably have mixed emotions about being part of it, even your wife, maybe something. But I know Keisha loves it, and it is really cool. You guys went to the Reds game recently with Keisha and Lincoln, and all six remaining West Iseline brothers. So that, man, when I saw that picture, it reminded me of the Super Bowl picture. Of course, your brother Mikey wasn't there. Eddie wasn't at the Super Bowl, I don't believe, either. And so it was all the brothers. Daddy made it. Oh, he did. That's right.Yeah, he made it there.And it was all the brothers and Lincoln and Keisha. And so, man, I just know at a Reds game, man, I know you must have felt Chris real strong that day, and it's awesome that she's coming to visit you and that you guys come together like that.Absolutely. She's got a home anytime she wants right here in Cincinnati, but she's doing great. She's killing it with her job and what she's doing with some of the media and editing. So I'm happy for her. Obviously, it was great to see her in Lincoln. Lincoln is getting big, big fast, and he's a little athlete. I can't wait till you're talking about him, postgame on Sunday, 15 or 20 years from now. That'll be pretty awesome. Or maybe he'll be wearing the badge here right here. Okay. He's a little soccer player. Let's hope he can keep that little athlete in him, and we'll see what happens down the road.Built like a soccer player like you. Yes, he is. Like Wes, who's great. When I saw him doing some baseball drills, that hit hard. It's beautiful. It's hard to put into one word all those feelings because it's bittersweet, but it's It's amazing as well. Not bitter sweet, though, to talk to you. I love the unbridled confidence, not just in your soccer team and your great looks, but also in your ability as an analyst. We're going to try to tap into that more throughout the course of the season, nick, but it was great to have you on. Yeah, that's it for this show. I want to thank Patrick Claybon for helping me out, drafting all the clones, the large scale conflict between replicated individuals. Thank you again, nick.Absolutely. Heed the call, Greg.Heed the call for sure. Till Wednesday. See you next time.

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out over the years on social saying some similar things. Yeah, and it's very sad to see it go. And I think it was Mark on some podcasts I listened to outside of the around the NFL that would talk about, we know this isn't going to last forever. At some point, it's going to come to an end. Obviously, I wish you guys had a few more years running, but I'm excited to see what Mark and Dan have for us. I'm exciting. You're off to a good start. You've had some good guests. I think probably number one on this list is talking right now. Oh, yeah. We'll see how that goes. We'll see how it goes. And obviously, I'd love to contribute to whatever you're doing in the future.

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I love it. The unbridled confidence is why... Look, hey, the reality is when it came time for best man, there's nick Westling. I think it was just because for people that don't know, not only do you look the most like Chris, you're very different from him because he used to love you. You created your own... It was like you created your own alternate universe, nick, that you live in. And it's a beautiful world. And I just like to be part of this alternate universe. I know your brothers probably have mixed emotions about being part of it, even your wife, maybe something. But I know Keisha loves it, and it is really cool. You guys went to the Reds game recently with Keisha and Lincoln, and all six remaining West Iseline brothers. So that, man, when I saw that picture, it reminded me of the Super Bowl picture. Of course, your brother Mikey wasn't there. Eddie wasn't at the Super Bowl, I don't believe, either. And so it was all the brothers. Daddy made it. Oh, he did. That's right.

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Yeah, he made it there.

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And it was all the brothers and Lincoln and Keisha. And so, man, I just know at a Reds game, man, I know you must have felt Chris real strong that day, and it's awesome that she's coming to visit you and that you guys come together like that.

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Absolutely. She's got a home anytime she wants right here in Cincinnati, but she's doing great. She's killing it with her job and what she's doing with some of the media and editing. So I'm happy for her. Obviously, it was great to see her in Lincoln. Lincoln is getting big, big fast, and he's a little athlete. I can't wait till you're talking about him, postgame on Sunday, 15 or 20 years from now. That'll be pretty awesome. Or maybe he'll be wearing the badge here right here. Okay. He's a little soccer player. Let's hope he can keep that little athlete in him, and we'll see what happens down the road.

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Built like a soccer player like you. Yes, he is. Like Wes, who's great. When I saw him doing some baseball drills, that hit hard. It's beautiful. It's hard to put into one word all those feelings because it's bittersweet, but it's It's amazing as well. Not bitter sweet, though, to talk to you. I love the unbridled confidence, not just in your soccer team and your great looks, but also in your ability as an analyst. We're going to try to tap into that more throughout the course of the season, nick, but it was great to have you on. Yeah, that's it for this show. I want to thank Patrick Claybon for helping me out, drafting all the clones, the large scale conflict between replicated individuals. Thank you again, nick.

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Absolutely. Heed the call, Greg.

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Heed the call for sure. Till Wednesday. See you next time.