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The chip tracker. Normally this, this next week is when I need help because some people will notify me. Like when there's a shoulder chip. The most important part is the chip has to be self applied. Uh, we, can we talk about when a teammate says, yo, yeah, Baker's got a chip on the shoulder. That doesn't count. It's most important when the player themself says that they have a chip and that's how we can add it to the tracker.

Jalen Brown. This week a self applied a rare offseason chip on the shoulder for not being put on the Olympics team. So I'm tracking that situation. In the meantime, look, Texans are officially practicing. They're in camp. Patrick Mahomes is throwing footballs. We're going to talk about him. The Ravens and the Chiefs are under 50 days been doing actual, like, football movement. You've been training for, testing and those types of things. So you hear this a lot. Um, when, when rookies have their first like onboarding or uploading period and otas, that teams are just extra careful with them. Soft tissue especially being something that can come up as a big problem when you have really fast twitch athletes. So I do think that, um, it's going to be really fun to watch him get immersed into this offense.And like I said, speed is fun. Speed is really fun. I want to see a little. I want to see a little Andy Reid meets Mike McDaniel vibes happening in this offense a little bit. It's going to be fun.So Marquise Brown, also part of this team, doesn't, not always as consistent catching the ball, but gets open. And to me, if you put him on last year's Chiefs team, I would have taken him over rookie Rasheed Rice for most of the year. Like, I think he would have been the chief's best receiver. I think Xavier worthy is a much better route runner. Now I just got bucket getter in my head. Like, then people give him credit for. Like, he was absolutely the one on the same team with Ad Mitchell because he was just open all the time. The defenses were going towards him and he got open. And he is not just a speed threat. So I'm excited. But they need those two guys to stay healthy because Rice might not be there for the beginning of the season. Andy Reid did say he has not heard anything. No surprise there in terms of what the timing is going to be with a potential Rasheed rice suspension. So we will see on that. The Broncos did some news on Wednesday. No, Tuesday rather. Signing Quinn Miners. Four year, $80 million.You were going to chicken out. You did it. okay, they're going.To throw it deeper this year, but I want a little more Exciting Mahomes. I'm going exciting at number two. I'm going Josh Allen. I know there's a lot going on around him this year, but. And he's a little streakier than you would want, but I still think he has an MVP season in him. You kind of forget he's 28. A season where he puts all the mental side together and the physical side. So I feel good about Josh Allen. It, too.Yeah. He would have been my number two pick as well. So I'm. I'm. And I'll tell you what, as somebody who pushed all his chips in on Kincaid going into that draft, it's. It's only the second year, but I feel like we're getting ready to reap the rewards of that. Like, I thought that was. I loved him individually as a player, and I couldn't have loved the fit more with him and Josh. And I think with Diggs gone now, you're going to see him. That's another podcast for another day. But I'm very good.Rookie year. Look, he was top ten.I know if La Porter doesn't have the year he has, I think there's even more buzz on him, but. All right, so now I get to the third pick, and again, it's. I want. I just want him to stay healthy. If he stays healthy, I think Burrows can. I'm going to feel really, really good about this. I know he didn't get off to a good start even when he was healthy last year, but I'm going to choose to believe in the best of Joe Burrow, um, and getting the ball out on time. And I think having a. You know, I don't. I don't always buy into people going to their contract years and, and now they're hungry and now they care. I don't know if I buy into all that, but I do believe in the talent of t. Higgins, and there is obviously extra motivation there to go along with Chase. So I'm going to take Joe Burrow with my next one.I didn't even write down notes for Burrow because I just knew. I thought you would take him ahead of me because I got a few people ahead.Burr just, I like traits.I'm not a scout, but as great as he is, he's had a couple injuries and the traits just aren't quite as exciting as the other options, including Lamar, who's my pick at fourth overall. Everyone wanted a season where. Okay, let's see your volume go up. Like, okay, he had about 680 dropbacks last year. His efficiency went up. They asked him to do more. He came through. He's not the extraordinary best of all time runner that he used to be, but he's still one of the top five runners in the NFL. And I just think he's processing better. It's a nice offense for him, but he showed to me that you could ask him to do everything, have the ball like that back, you know, dropping back on every play. And I think he's going to be better in year two of this offense. So I like Lamar.Yep. By the way, will there be a team? This is a good topic. We can do another day or you can go ahead and do it on your own, Greg. But I would love to eventually have kind of that long conversation about the best, who are going to be the best twelve personnel teams, who are going to be the best tight end personnel teams. And I think with them, with the Ravens, with likely seeing what he could do last year, get Andrews healthy for a full season, I would, I could make the case. That's the best twelve personnel team in the NFL.We, we did talk about that a little bit. Not who's the best, but just talked about the teams like the packers, the Ravens that are really the Bills will be there in uptick and just have two great tight ends of Raiders, Ravens rather, as well.A team that might surprise you, that's going to be a big twelve personnel team is going to be the team that I'm going to take their quarterback with the next pick. And that's Justin Herbert with the fifth. And you talk about traits. There's none better just in terms of the traits. And the, one of the things in calling all of his games, it's still, it's still funny to me. Like when you go down to the field before the game and I have friends on all these different teams and if it's somebody from the personnel department, a GM, a scouting director, that hasn't, you know, maybe they've seen him in college, but they haven't seen him in the NFL. I haven't stood next to him. I love getting the reaction when you go down there on the field and they kind of run out and they all just kind of, they kind of lose their focus on the conversation. Like that dude is huge. I'm all, yeah, no, you don't appreciate just how big this guy is. But I think you're going to see Disley and Hurst and kind of an underrated, a different style of twelve personnel team with how they're going to try and run the ball with those guys.And then I think they'll get some matchups that they like, even though the receiving corps is going to be all brand new. But Justin Herbert would, would be my pick there. I don't know that statistically it's going to be some crazy year. Like if we're doing this as a purely fantasy football draft, I don't know that I would take him there. But if you're saying who's going to help me win the most games and doing what's asked of him, I'll take Herbert.Yeah, I love that. And that, that's, see, that's why we have dj on. I haven't heard anyone talking about that, too. Tight end set and those are quiet signings. But they were priority signings where the charges also makes you wonder, you know, here and there it is. Jim Harbaugh, as a coach, wouldn't mind seeing Justin Herbert just use his athleticism. And in the run game, just, just a little bit more famously, Jeremiah rang Turbot like a little low.Say the name. Say the name.20Th. He was one spot below, I believe, Ross Blackbuck. Ross Blackblock. And after a while I felt like I was. Even though Jeremiah's far more successful and athletic and tall and handsome than me, I felt like I was actually punching down on Jeremiah with this, just killing him for this over and over. And I was like, I'm going to stop it. There was a point where I was like, I'm no longer going to bring it up. But then the last time, I think you were on the show, you brought it up. So I was like, okay, it's open season, I'll bring it up again.Yeah. You know what's funny though, is obviously not the Ross Blacklock part of that whole thing, but the other, the other part of that, this is what's so great about the draft is that you can have literally articles written, winners and losers, right. The draft is just completed. They've not even had a practice yet. And then the verdict is in. And then in that draft, do you remember? Because I initially had Jordan Love ahead of Herbert. And then through the process, you know, the senior bowl and everything, and I ended up putting Herbert over Jordan Love. But then, you know, for two, three years, it was like, how could that even be a conversation? Like, Jordan Love doesn't play. Justin Herbert is this elite, you know, be the best quarterback in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, just like that, now it's like you'll see legitimate conversations between those, those two guys are about those two guys as we kind of head on into the future. So that's kind of like a little snippet of the, the life of a, of a scout, I guess, when you're going.It's a good example, too, because, yeah, I'm sure love is coming up, but I agree with you on Herbert. I struggled to rank just doing this. Herbert or my next pick, CJ Stroud ahead. And that's where, like, yeah, we'll see in three years. Maybe I'm getting ahead over my skis.But where I was to Adam Peters, who's the GM of the commanders and we were talking about his, you know, process going through trying to pick between, you know, Caleb Williams and, and, you know, doing his homework on Caleb Williams as well as doing his homework on the, on the quarterback. He ended up getting in Jayden Daniels and, and, you know, talking about that and then looking at Drake May and he said, I said, well, what's the lesson you learned from Purdy? Like, you guys just went through this thing. Guys, Mister irrelevant what's the lesson? He said, the lesson is our job was to get the guy who's the best at quarterbacking. And I thought, like, the way he said that, I was kind of like, yeah, because we can talk about everything else. Right arm strength, you know, the ability to improvise, the creativity to play. He's like, at the end of the day, can you communicate the play call? Can you execute the play call? Like, that's what he does really, really well. So I'm going to take Purdy.You know, he was way lower in my list, but he has improved incrementally. Like, he was definitely a much better player by the end of last year. I think people have this first image that he has, and he's a very young quarterback, so he can keep improving. But I'm glad you didn't take them. Yeah, I struggled with where to go here, but I'm going traits, like I said, I'm going Matthew Stafford for now, I just think he finished last season playing as well as ever. I think the way McVeigh keeps him engaged with the play call, like, I'm not saying he's going to have a Brady, like, run. He's not. And I. I would just worry about his health, and that's the risk here. But we've seen with Rogers and Brady, like, sometimes quarterbacks can play some of, if not their best ball, mid to late thirties. I thought Stafford did last year. I think you can do everything. So he's my pick.All right, I've got three guys I'm looking at here, but I'm on to. Okay, in terms, this is, this is someone who I think obviously has a ton of talent, has continued to get better. I love the system that they have around him. I love the continuity, which, you know, one of the things I won't get way off track because I know we'll run out of time here, but I read this book, you'll love it by Adam Grant. Do you read Adam Grant stuff? No, I think, again, is a book that he wrote that did really well. He has a book called Hidden Potential, and in it it's, you know, it's a lot of stuff you can carry over from, like, a business world into the football world. But he talked about Finland's education system and how one of the things that they do and why they've been so successful is this thing called looping, where you have the same teacher maybe from first grade all the way through 6th grade, so that when you start the next year, you don't start over. They know where you, where each student is and they can pick up where they left off and then that's why you have more growth.And I thought, man, continuity might be the most underrated aspect in the NFL in terms of offensive play caller and quarterback. And I think Ben Johnson staying in Detroit and Jared golf getting another chance to move on and continue to grow in that system with the talent around him. I think he has a monster year. I'll take Jared golf.Okay. I, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm, I hear you. And yeah, my son had second and third grade. They had the same teacher. It did, did make a big difference. But look, I want, I want someone that can learn no matter who the teacher is. This guy, Dak Prescott, you know, Walker, my son looked at this list for me. He, this was his big take. Was Dak is too high on your list? But I think people forget he was so good last year. He's been, he hasn't had that continuity. Some of his numbers are crazy. His numbers last year in terms of like he was the best in the league when he was pressure. In terms of QBR, he was the best outside the pocket. Like, he doesn't want to play there, but when he has to, like, he can. I think some of the situation around him has been tougher than it's made out to. So I'm thinking about the whole season. The postseason has obviously been a problem for him, but I'm taking deck.Ok. I'm going to go. Jordan love.Yeah, he was next for me and.That'S why to me, those three guys I had golf, Prescott and Jordan Love, those guys are all touching each other for me. So that's why when you get into this part of it, it's not a decision of this guy or that guy. It's usually like three, four, five different guys you're trying to pick from. But I'll go. Jordan Love. And again, that whole group just growing up together. So, um, as good as it was at the end of last year, everything's just, everything's on the trend, trending up.I had one more guy in that group and it was Jalen Hurts, who's, I think, born months apart from Jordan Love, which you don't think of them together but basically the same age. Love's interesting because when he would play in the preseason and PFF ranks big time throws and turnover where he plays and he was always like first in the league and percentage wise of both of them, but last year he really didn't put the ball up for grabs. He still had the big time throws, but he was pretty careful with the ball. So it's just sample size. Ceiling wise. He could be top five types, top six, but he reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick, just not as a player at all. But Justin, when Kaepernick came out that first offseason, I was like, this guy could do absolutely everything. And then once there's a little more tape on him, he was still great that next year. But I just want to see a little more Jordan Love, and that's why I'm giving Hertz a bit of a pass for last year. We've seen what his ceiling is, which is one of the greatest Super bowl performances ever.We know the floor he has in terms of his running ability, what that provides in short yardage. Great deep ball thrower. He's had some ups and downs in terms of how he handles the blitz. He wasn't, he wasn't healthy last year, but I like that he's played a lot, you know, whereas Jordan love necessarily hasn't. And I think people are a little too quick to just throw him out of the top ten because he wasn't expected to be this, this great quarterback when he came into the league. But I always appreciate it. You went out of your way to put him higher than most going into that draft because you just said you talked to too many people that said there's something about this kid, even if you don't always see it with your eyes, that he's going to have a better career than he expected. And you were right about that.Yeah, his makeup was off the charts and at some point in time you're like, this guy's too competitive, he's too tough, and all that stuff is going to kind of just pull his talent level up to catch up with where he needed to be. So. Yeah, no, I think I'm with you on that one. All right, this next one, I'm between two guys and we'll see if you take the one I was going to take, but I'm actually going to go. I'm going to go maybe against the grain a little bit here. I'm going to take Kirk Cousins with my next pick. I would not cousin.That would not have been my next.Pick just because I think Kurt Cousins. Yeah, coming off the injury. But again, I don't think that isn't is an injury for him that's going to be as impactful as it would be for others. He's going to sit back in the pocket and he's, by the way, my tv just came on. The NFL Network just turned the lights on and, and this other tv, which control looks good.We got a fly bucky style through the rest of this.Yeah. Which I don't know why they did that because a, I'm not on the network today and b, we don't use those lights. But anyways, if I start sweating, that's why I feel like a chicken McNugget in here. The. Yeah, no, Kirk cousins to me and I talked to Kevin O'Connell about it last year and, you know, they wanted to bring him back. It didn't work out in Minnesota and Kevin's like, did. He was on his way to be in the mvp of the league last year, so I still think he's, he's, he's going to have a big year. With all the stuff they have there.In place in Atlanta, I'm surprised for the first time I'm going off my board picking someone that's a one spot lower because now that he's just sitting there this late, too good of a value, I'm going to take Trevor Lawrence.Yeah.Maybe not as down to, down as consistent in the progress that you want, but it's like, and I probably always been lower on consensus just off what he's done in the NFL than Trevor Lawrence. But what he has been isn't absolutely an above average quarterback that can make every throw. And like this, maybe the ceiling isn't quite as high as we expected, but he's been a top ten to twelve quarterback. He should still be getting better. So I feel good about getting him this late.Yeah, I was going to take him there. That was my choice with Kirk and him and, and Trevor not being healthy last year and I think not being able to practice at all during the week, I think that had a big impact. He's got to get better, though, just like the situational stuff. And that was maybe the tiebreaker. You can't, you can't be down inside the ten yard line, turn the ball over. You can't, you know, you got to just be a little bit better at some of the quote unquote quarterbacking stuff. So. All right. At this point in time I feel like it's, I mean, don't we have to, don't we have to account for, for two is production at this point in time? I know that the skills, you know, he's not going to allow you with that, but I think in terms of drafting for this year in the, in a system that's been tailor made for him, and it's skinny to it now. Like, he's all, like, in great shape and everything. So we'll see what that looks like. Hopefully he stays healthy, but at this point in time, I think it's just disrespectful if I don't take him based off his production.Wow. Yeah. I'm not worried about respect. I'm just worried about building a championship. I don't know what that means, but maybe we'll put up.By the way, their comparison that I've used on them is that they are. They are. You remember how the Colts, we would just always say, and during those years, the Peyton run, like, there's nobody more dependent on being at home in the playoffs than the Indianapolis Colts. I think the Miami Dolphins are the modern day colts where if, if they can, if they can get home field and get healthy going into the tournament, I think they could. They could be a Super bowl team. I really do. But they are dependent on playing in their own environment.Well, then they need to jump out like the Colts would do it seemingly every season at like nine and two, you know? Yeah. They always just got so far ahead in the race. I'm excited Kyler is here. I thought he showed some really exciting things over the last half of last season because you could tell he wasn't 100% there physically, but I thought he threw more over the middle of the field. I think he was a nice fit for that offense. I still think he's the ceiling. We've seen the ceiling. He can have like a stretch of five to eight games, like a Kirk Cousins, who to me, is streakier than people realize, where he looks like an MVP candidate flattening out the bad weeks. But, man, I still think the best is yet to come for Kyler Murray.Yep. I'm excited to see that group. I think it's kind of like a sneaky, decent support cast when you look at what they have there, so. I like that. Okay. All right, where do I want to go here with this next one? Starts getting a little tricky. I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go with Geno Smith here.Oh, my God. That hurts me. What did I. I just should have moved him up. The fact I don't have Geno Smith in this draft is killing me.Wow. So, by the way, how, for some reason, how much did you enjoy your, how much did you enjoy your friendship with me now that it's over, by the way, do you want to talk about that or no.Why would that be?You just left. You just gave me Geno Smith with the 17th.I've been pumping up Geno Smith so hard for so many years. It's almost like a parent that watches, you know, that he's at college. He's getting all the love. He's winning the heisman. I did my job. People are giving him. It's been the offseason to GMO. I think you give him time, everyone knows he'll dice you now. It's just common conventional wisdom how good he is. Look, you're even taking him this high. But I do feel like Gino.Gino just chose to live with dad. That's what I. That's what I just think. What happened right there.Aaron Rodgers, we both have doubts, clearly, that he lasted this long. I thought I had him so low that there was no chance I would get him. He was below Gino for me. But he is next on my list. And yeah, it's crazy how deep quarterback is that. We're putting him below average right now. Like, below. We're past 16, so that's pretty great.I don't know.He wasn't that good the last time you played. And he's coming up again.I'm not going to overreact to what you saw in four plays, but him holding the ball on quick game, you know, for the four snaps, didn't get me super inspired about what that's going to look like. Anyway, we'll see what happens there. All right, next one for me. I'm going to go with Baker.Okay.I think Baker getting comfortable and settling in there. I think he takes another step.I think he's the best of those guys that are just kind of stopgap quarterbacks. But I did have him lower than some of the exciting young players, including Caleb Williams. I know he's a rookie. I mean, we. We've seen enough.Trying to hold my water on that. I was hoping I'd just push it off. Just another picture.Freaking Baker Mayfield over Caleb Williams. No way. I mean, we've seen rookies come in and, you know, when I watched him in May, I'm not. I'm not like you watching all these guys so much every year, but just for a prospect, he was the most exciting I could remember since luck. And I. May was in that conversation, too. To me, maybe like a little below that, point in time. It's the Derek Carr portion of the of the draft, so I'll take car.Yeah. It's funny because when you said not the sexiest pick, I just.You know who I'm taking.I knew it was Derek Carr, which is ironic because his brother, you know, very sexy.Will Levis.Intriguing type of guy. I fall for who, man, his good games are really good.Great traits.It has a chance here. I think has a little bit better of a chance. I think maybe it was you that compared him to Jake. Color. I've heard other people, I kind of like that. And, man, Jay Cutler made a lot of money and had a really good career. And if will ever set that career, I think the Titans would be happy.All right, we're speed round. I'm going to go with Russell Wilson.Yeah, that's next on my list.Yeah, they like, they like what they've seen thus far. So everybody's optimistic this time of year, but everything I've heard is two teams.I've given up on him. The Broncos, you know, had to eat so much money to dumb, but he would have been my pick, too. I'm going Daniel Jones. It's just hard to evaluate because he's never protected. But he does. He does throw a nice ball. He can run. If he ever was protected, he'll provide a baseline. That's. That's fine.All right. I'm going to go with Bryce Young and hope that we see improvement. That's just. I don't need greatness. I need improvement. So we'll go there.I think he's short enough to get just little. Little bit of optimism. I'll go Darnold. Because I just think. I can't believe I ended up with Darnold and you ended up with Geno Smith in this draft. Something's wrong. Because I've always been a.Can we train?Yeah. Please. Please.I think you'll wind up playing more. I think it's a great situation. This is his chance. This is. You guys have thought that this is his chance, like four different times to finally be proven right. But I really think this is his chance because I think it's a good situation. I think he'll be. He'll play well in it.Yeah. I would actually make that trade because when I was going through, I totally. I was.Okay, let's do it.I get Gino trade and I need two for one. So give me. So I have two teams, Arnold. Okay. Let me just get through. Let's just get these last two guys pick because I'm already four minutes late for move to six. Greg, let's go. I'll go. You already went Levis. So he's gone. Oh, my gosh.Dude, you have the Broncos and the Raiders next. So we said 32 teams have to be covered.Okay. Those are the only ones.Those are the only two teams left. Yep.Okay. I'll go. Bonix. Give me bone x. Yeah.And why not?You got Aiden O'Connell.Little pretty.Wrap it up.I'm going. Aiden O'Connell. Devontae Adams favorite quarterback apparently seems to really like Aiden O'Connell.Yes.Fourth round rookies. Go. He. He outplayed the number one overall pick. Give him credit for that, you know?Yeah, no, he diced up the Chargers. I was there for that. 165.Sorry for making you late. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. I will offer you a two for one. I will give you Darnold. And who are some in Daniel Jones for?I'll take. I'll take Donald and Levis. I'll take Darnold and Levis for Gino.All right, you're.That's done.That's why you're a future GM. This guy is so good.He's stiff army pitch soap and freaking may mayonnaise, man. That's all I'm here for.He's stiff arming job offers left and right just to read. Read ads with us.Appreciate you.Have fun in Alaska. And yeah, hope to get you back on NFL daily on the other side when you're nice and rested.See you, DJ.See you, buddy.All right.Thank you again to Daniel Jeremiah. Doctor tape another podcast and he's off to Alaska. Hope to get him on during the rest of the season. Stay tuned for our last show that.We'Re really excited about.This one with Nook shook on Friday. Till then, see you next time.

been doing actual, like, football movement. You've been training for, testing and those types of things. So you hear this a lot. Um, when, when rookies have their first like onboarding or uploading period and otas, that teams are just extra careful with them. Soft tissue especially being something that can come up as a big problem when you have really fast twitch athletes. So I do think that, um, it's going to be really fun to watch him get immersed into this offense.

And like I said, speed is fun. Speed is really fun. I want to see a little. I want to see a little Andy Reid meets Mike McDaniel vibes happening in this offense a little bit. It's going to be fun.

So Marquise Brown, also part of this team, doesn't, not always as consistent catching the ball, but gets open. And to me, if you put him on last year's Chiefs team, I would have taken him over rookie Rasheed Rice for most of the year. Like, I think he would have been the chief's best receiver. I think Xavier worthy is a much better route runner. Now I just got bucket getter in my head. Like, then people give him credit for. Like, he was absolutely the one on the same team with Ad Mitchell because he was just open all the time. The defenses were going towards him and he got open. And he is not just a speed threat. So I'm excited. But they need those two guys to stay healthy because Rice might not be there for the beginning of the season. Andy Reid did say he has not heard anything. No surprise there in terms of what the timing is going to be with a potential Rasheed rice suspension. So we will see on that. The Broncos did some news on Wednesday. No, Tuesday rather. Signing Quinn Miners. Four year, $80 million.

You were going to chicken out. You did it. okay, they're going.To throw it deeper this year, but I want a little more Exciting Mahomes. I'm going exciting at number two. I'm going Josh Allen. I know there's a lot going on around him this year, but. And he's a little streakier than you would want, but I still think he has an MVP season in him. You kind of forget he's 28. A season where he puts all the mental side together and the physical side. So I feel good about Josh Allen. It, too.Yeah. He would have been my number two pick as well. So I'm. I'm. And I'll tell you what, as somebody who pushed all his chips in on Kincaid going into that draft, it's. It's only the second year, but I feel like we're getting ready to reap the rewards of that. Like, I thought that was. I loved him individually as a player, and I couldn't have loved the fit more with him and Josh. And I think with Diggs gone now, you're going to see him. That's another podcast for another day. But I'm very good.Rookie year. Look, he was top ten.I know if La Porter doesn't have the year he has, I think there's even more buzz on him, but. All right, so now I get to the third pick, and again, it's. I want. I just want him to stay healthy. If he stays healthy, I think Burrows can. I'm going to feel really, really good about this. I know he didn't get off to a good start even when he was healthy last year, but I'm going to choose to believe in the best of Joe Burrow, um, and getting the ball out on time. And I think having a. You know, I don't. I don't always buy into people going to their contract years and, and now they're hungry and now they care. I don't know if I buy into all that, but I do believe in the talent of t. Higgins, and there is obviously extra motivation there to go along with Chase. So I'm going to take Joe Burrow with my next one.I didn't even write down notes for Burrow because I just knew. I thought you would take him ahead of me because I got a few people ahead.Burr just, I like traits.I'm not a scout, but as great as he is, he's had a couple injuries and the traits just aren't quite as exciting as the other options, including Lamar, who's my pick at fourth overall. Everyone wanted a season where. Okay, let's see your volume go up. Like, okay, he had about 680 dropbacks last year. His efficiency went up. They asked him to do more. He came through. He's not the extraordinary best of all time runner that he used to be, but he's still one of the top five runners in the NFL. And I just think he's processing better. It's a nice offense for him, but he showed to me that you could ask him to do everything, have the ball like that back, you know, dropping back on every play. And I think he's going to be better in year two of this offense. So I like Lamar.Yep. By the way, will there be a team? This is a good topic. We can do another day or you can go ahead and do it on your own, Greg. But I would love to eventually have kind of that long conversation about the best, who are going to be the best twelve personnel teams, who are going to be the best tight end personnel teams. And I think with them, with the Ravens, with likely seeing what he could do last year, get Andrews healthy for a full season, I would, I could make the case. That's the best twelve personnel team in the NFL.We, we did talk about that a little bit. Not who's the best, but just talked about the teams like the packers, the Ravens that are really the Bills will be there in uptick and just have two great tight ends of Raiders, Ravens rather, as well.A team that might surprise you, that's going to be a big twelve personnel team is going to be the team that I'm going to take their quarterback with the next pick. And that's Justin Herbert with the fifth. And you talk about traits. There's none better just in terms of the traits. And the, one of the things in calling all of his games, it's still, it's still funny to me. Like when you go down to the field before the game and I have friends on all these different teams and if it's somebody from the personnel department, a GM, a scouting director, that hasn't, you know, maybe they've seen him in college, but they haven't seen him in the NFL. I haven't stood next to him. I love getting the reaction when you go down there on the field and they kind of run out and they all just kind of, they kind of lose their focus on the conversation. Like that dude is huge. I'm all, yeah, no, you don't appreciate just how big this guy is. But I think you're going to see Disley and Hurst and kind of an underrated, a different style of twelve personnel team with how they're going to try and run the ball with those guys.And then I think they'll get some matchups that they like, even though the receiving corps is going to be all brand new. But Justin Herbert would, would be my pick there. I don't know that statistically it's going to be some crazy year. Like if we're doing this as a purely fantasy football draft, I don't know that I would take him there. But if you're saying who's going to help me win the most games and doing what's asked of him, I'll take Herbert.Yeah, I love that. And that, that's, see, that's why we have dj on. I haven't heard anyone talking about that, too. Tight end set and those are quiet signings. But they were priority signings where the charges also makes you wonder, you know, here and there it is. Jim Harbaugh, as a coach, wouldn't mind seeing Justin Herbert just use his athleticism. And in the run game, just, just a little bit more famously, Jeremiah rang Turbot like a little low.Say the name. Say the name.20Th. He was one spot below, I believe, Ross Blackbuck. Ross Blackblock. And after a while I felt like I was. Even though Jeremiah's far more successful and athletic and tall and handsome than me, I felt like I was actually punching down on Jeremiah with this, just killing him for this over and over. And I was like, I'm going to stop it. There was a point where I was like, I'm no longer going to bring it up. But then the last time, I think you were on the show, you brought it up. So I was like, okay, it's open season, I'll bring it up again.Yeah. You know what's funny though, is obviously not the Ross Blacklock part of that whole thing, but the other, the other part of that, this is what's so great about the draft is that you can have literally articles written, winners and losers, right. The draft is just completed. They've not even had a practice yet. And then the verdict is in. And then in that draft, do you remember? Because I initially had Jordan Love ahead of Herbert. And then through the process, you know, the senior bowl and everything, and I ended up putting Herbert over Jordan Love. But then, you know, for two, three years, it was like, how could that even be a conversation? Like, Jordan Love doesn't play. Justin Herbert is this elite, you know, be the best quarterback in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, just like that, now it's like you'll see legitimate conversations between those, those two guys are about those two guys as we kind of head on into the future. So that's kind of like a little snippet of the, the life of a, of a scout, I guess, when you're going.It's a good example, too, because, yeah, I'm sure love is coming up, but I agree with you on Herbert. I struggled to rank just doing this. Herbert or my next pick, CJ Stroud ahead. And that's where, like, yeah, we'll see in three years. Maybe I'm getting ahead over my skis.But where I was to Adam Peters, who's the GM of the commanders and we were talking about his, you know, process going through trying to pick between, you know, Caleb Williams and, and, you know, doing his homework on Caleb Williams as well as doing his homework on the, on the quarterback. He ended up getting in Jayden Daniels and, and, you know, talking about that and then looking at Drake May and he said, I said, well, what's the lesson you learned from Purdy? Like, you guys just went through this thing. Guys, Mister irrelevant what's the lesson? He said, the lesson is our job was to get the guy who's the best at quarterbacking. And I thought, like, the way he said that, I was kind of like, yeah, because we can talk about everything else. Right arm strength, you know, the ability to improvise, the creativity to play. He's like, at the end of the day, can you communicate the play call? Can you execute the play call? Like, that's what he does really, really well. So I'm going to take Purdy.You know, he was way lower in my list, but he has improved incrementally. Like, he was definitely a much better player by the end of last year. I think people have this first image that he has, and he's a very young quarterback, so he can keep improving. But I'm glad you didn't take them. Yeah, I struggled with where to go here, but I'm going traits, like I said, I'm going Matthew Stafford for now, I just think he finished last season playing as well as ever. I think the way McVeigh keeps him engaged with the play call, like, I'm not saying he's going to have a Brady, like, run. He's not. And I. I would just worry about his health, and that's the risk here. But we've seen with Rogers and Brady, like, sometimes quarterbacks can play some of, if not their best ball, mid to late thirties. I thought Stafford did last year. I think you can do everything. So he's my pick.All right, I've got three guys I'm looking at here, but I'm on to. Okay, in terms, this is, this is someone who I think obviously has a ton of talent, has continued to get better. I love the system that they have around him. I love the continuity, which, you know, one of the things I won't get way off track because I know we'll run out of time here, but I read this book, you'll love it by Adam Grant. Do you read Adam Grant stuff? No, I think, again, is a book that he wrote that did really well. He has a book called Hidden Potential, and in it it's, you know, it's a lot of stuff you can carry over from, like, a business world into the football world. But he talked about Finland's education system and how one of the things that they do and why they've been so successful is this thing called looping, where you have the same teacher maybe from first grade all the way through 6th grade, so that when you start the next year, you don't start over. They know where you, where each student is and they can pick up where they left off and then that's why you have more growth.And I thought, man, continuity might be the most underrated aspect in the NFL in terms of offensive play caller and quarterback. And I think Ben Johnson staying in Detroit and Jared golf getting another chance to move on and continue to grow in that system with the talent around him. I think he has a monster year. I'll take Jared golf.Okay. I, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm, I hear you. And yeah, my son had second and third grade. They had the same teacher. It did, did make a big difference. But look, I want, I want someone that can learn no matter who the teacher is. This guy, Dak Prescott, you know, Walker, my son looked at this list for me. He, this was his big take. Was Dak is too high on your list? But I think people forget he was so good last year. He's been, he hasn't had that continuity. Some of his numbers are crazy. His numbers last year in terms of like he was the best in the league when he was pressure. In terms of QBR, he was the best outside the pocket. Like, he doesn't want to play there, but when he has to, like, he can. I think some of the situation around him has been tougher than it's made out to. So I'm thinking about the whole season. The postseason has obviously been a problem for him, but I'm taking deck.Ok. I'm going to go. Jordan love.Yeah, he was next for me and.That'S why to me, those three guys I had golf, Prescott and Jordan Love, those guys are all touching each other for me. So that's why when you get into this part of it, it's not a decision of this guy or that guy. It's usually like three, four, five different guys you're trying to pick from. But I'll go. Jordan Love. And again, that whole group just growing up together. So, um, as good as it was at the end of last year, everything's just, everything's on the trend, trending up.I had one more guy in that group and it was Jalen Hurts, who's, I think, born months apart from Jordan Love, which you don't think of them together but basically the same age. Love's interesting because when he would play in the preseason and PFF ranks big time throws and turnover where he plays and he was always like first in the league and percentage wise of both of them, but last year he really didn't put the ball up for grabs. He still had the big time throws, but he was pretty careful with the ball. So it's just sample size. Ceiling wise. He could be top five types, top six, but he reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick, just not as a player at all. But Justin, when Kaepernick came out that first offseason, I was like, this guy could do absolutely everything. And then once there's a little more tape on him, he was still great that next year. But I just want to see a little more Jordan Love, and that's why I'm giving Hertz a bit of a pass for last year. We've seen what his ceiling is, which is one of the greatest Super bowl performances ever.We know the floor he has in terms of his running ability, what that provides in short yardage. Great deep ball thrower. He's had some ups and downs in terms of how he handles the blitz. He wasn't, he wasn't healthy last year, but I like that he's played a lot, you know, whereas Jordan love necessarily hasn't. And I think people are a little too quick to just throw him out of the top ten because he wasn't expected to be this, this great quarterback when he came into the league. But I always appreciate it. You went out of your way to put him higher than most going into that draft because you just said you talked to too many people that said there's something about this kid, even if you don't always see it with your eyes, that he's going to have a better career than he expected. And you were right about that.Yeah, his makeup was off the charts and at some point in time you're like, this guy's too competitive, he's too tough, and all that stuff is going to kind of just pull his talent level up to catch up with where he needed to be. So. Yeah, no, I think I'm with you on that one. All right, this next one, I'm between two guys and we'll see if you take the one I was going to take, but I'm actually going to go. I'm going to go maybe against the grain a little bit here. I'm going to take Kirk Cousins with my next pick. I would not cousin.That would not have been my next.Pick just because I think Kurt Cousins. Yeah, coming off the injury. But again, I don't think that isn't is an injury for him that's going to be as impactful as it would be for others. He's going to sit back in the pocket and he's, by the way, my tv just came on. The NFL Network just turned the lights on and, and this other tv, which control looks good.We got a fly bucky style through the rest of this.Yeah. Which I don't know why they did that because a, I'm not on the network today and b, we don't use those lights. But anyways, if I start sweating, that's why I feel like a chicken McNugget in here. The. Yeah, no, Kirk cousins to me and I talked to Kevin O'Connell about it last year and, you know, they wanted to bring him back. It didn't work out in Minnesota and Kevin's like, did. He was on his way to be in the mvp of the league last year, so I still think he's, he's, he's going to have a big year. With all the stuff they have there.In place in Atlanta, I'm surprised for the first time I'm going off my board picking someone that's a one spot lower because now that he's just sitting there this late, too good of a value, I'm going to take Trevor Lawrence.Yeah.Maybe not as down to, down as consistent in the progress that you want, but it's like, and I probably always been lower on consensus just off what he's done in the NFL than Trevor Lawrence. But what he has been isn't absolutely an above average quarterback that can make every throw. And like this, maybe the ceiling isn't quite as high as we expected, but he's been a top ten to twelve quarterback. He should still be getting better. So I feel good about getting him this late.Yeah, I was going to take him there. That was my choice with Kirk and him and, and Trevor not being healthy last year and I think not being able to practice at all during the week, I think that had a big impact. He's got to get better, though, just like the situational stuff. And that was maybe the tiebreaker. You can't, you can't be down inside the ten yard line, turn the ball over. You can't, you know, you got to just be a little bit better at some of the quote unquote quarterbacking stuff. So. All right. At this point in time I feel like it's, I mean, don't we have to, don't we have to account for, for two is production at this point in time? I know that the skills, you know, he's not going to allow you with that, but I think in terms of drafting for this year in the, in a system that's been tailor made for him, and it's skinny to it now. Like, he's all, like, in great shape and everything. So we'll see what that looks like. Hopefully he stays healthy, but at this point in time, I think it's just disrespectful if I don't take him based off his production.Wow. Yeah. I'm not worried about respect. I'm just worried about building a championship. I don't know what that means, but maybe we'll put up.By the way, their comparison that I've used on them is that they are. They are. You remember how the Colts, we would just always say, and during those years, the Peyton run, like, there's nobody more dependent on being at home in the playoffs than the Indianapolis Colts. I think the Miami Dolphins are the modern day colts where if, if they can, if they can get home field and get healthy going into the tournament, I think they could. They could be a Super bowl team. I really do. But they are dependent on playing in their own environment.Well, then they need to jump out like the Colts would do it seemingly every season at like nine and two, you know? Yeah. They always just got so far ahead in the race. I'm excited Kyler is here. I thought he showed some really exciting things over the last half of last season because you could tell he wasn't 100% there physically, but I thought he threw more over the middle of the field. I think he was a nice fit for that offense. I still think he's the ceiling. We've seen the ceiling. He can have like a stretch of five to eight games, like a Kirk Cousins, who to me, is streakier than people realize, where he looks like an MVP candidate flattening out the bad weeks. But, man, I still think the best is yet to come for Kyler Murray.Yep. I'm excited to see that group. I think it's kind of like a sneaky, decent support cast when you look at what they have there, so. I like that. Okay. All right, where do I want to go here with this next one? Starts getting a little tricky. I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go with Geno Smith here.Oh, my God. That hurts me. What did I. I just should have moved him up. The fact I don't have Geno Smith in this draft is killing me.Wow. So, by the way, how, for some reason, how much did you enjoy your, how much did you enjoy your friendship with me now that it's over, by the way, do you want to talk about that or no.Why would that be?You just left. You just gave me Geno Smith with the 17th.I've been pumping up Geno Smith so hard for so many years. It's almost like a parent that watches, you know, that he's at college. He's getting all the love. He's winning the heisman. I did my job. People are giving him. It's been the offseason to GMO. I think you give him time, everyone knows he'll dice you now. It's just common conventional wisdom how good he is. Look, you're even taking him this high. But I do feel like Gino.Gino just chose to live with dad. That's what I. That's what I just think. What happened right there.Aaron Rodgers, we both have doubts, clearly, that he lasted this long. I thought I had him so low that there was no chance I would get him. He was below Gino for me. But he is next on my list. And yeah, it's crazy how deep quarterback is that. We're putting him below average right now. Like, below. We're past 16, so that's pretty great.I don't know.He wasn't that good the last time you played. And he's coming up again.I'm not going to overreact to what you saw in four plays, but him holding the ball on quick game, you know, for the four snaps, didn't get me super inspired about what that's going to look like. Anyway, we'll see what happens there. All right, next one for me. I'm going to go with Baker.Okay.I think Baker getting comfortable and settling in there. I think he takes another step.I think he's the best of those guys that are just kind of stopgap quarterbacks. But I did have him lower than some of the exciting young players, including Caleb Williams. I know he's a rookie. I mean, we. We've seen enough.Trying to hold my water on that. I was hoping I'd just push it off. Just another picture.Freaking Baker Mayfield over Caleb Williams. No way. I mean, we've seen rookies come in and, you know, when I watched him in May, I'm not. I'm not like you watching all these guys so much every year, but just for a prospect, he was the most exciting I could remember since luck. And I. May was in that conversation, too. To me, maybe like a little below that, point in time. It's the Derek Carr portion of the of the draft, so I'll take car.Yeah. It's funny because when you said not the sexiest pick, I just.You know who I'm taking.I knew it was Derek Carr, which is ironic because his brother, you know, very sexy.Will Levis.Intriguing type of guy. I fall for who, man, his good games are really good.Great traits.It has a chance here. I think has a little bit better of a chance. I think maybe it was you that compared him to Jake. Color. I've heard other people, I kind of like that. And, man, Jay Cutler made a lot of money and had a really good career. And if will ever set that career, I think the Titans would be happy.All right, we're speed round. I'm going to go with Russell Wilson.Yeah, that's next on my list.Yeah, they like, they like what they've seen thus far. So everybody's optimistic this time of year, but everything I've heard is two teams.I've given up on him. The Broncos, you know, had to eat so much money to dumb, but he would have been my pick, too. I'm going Daniel Jones. It's just hard to evaluate because he's never protected. But he does. He does throw a nice ball. He can run. If he ever was protected, he'll provide a baseline. That's. That's fine.All right. I'm going to go with Bryce Young and hope that we see improvement. That's just. I don't need greatness. I need improvement. So we'll go there.I think he's short enough to get just little. Little bit of optimism. I'll go Darnold. Because I just think. I can't believe I ended up with Darnold and you ended up with Geno Smith in this draft. Something's wrong. Because I've always been a.Can we train?Yeah. Please. Please.I think you'll wind up playing more. I think it's a great situation. This is his chance. This is. You guys have thought that this is his chance, like four different times to finally be proven right. But I really think this is his chance because I think it's a good situation. I think he'll be. He'll play well in it.Yeah. I would actually make that trade because when I was going through, I totally. I was.Okay, let's do it.I get Gino trade and I need two for one. So give me. So I have two teams, Arnold. Okay. Let me just get through. Let's just get these last two guys pick because I'm already four minutes late for move to six. Greg, let's go. I'll go. You already went Levis. So he's gone. Oh, my gosh.Dude, you have the Broncos and the Raiders next. So we said 32 teams have to be covered.Okay. Those are the only ones.Those are the only two teams left. Yep.Okay. I'll go. Bonix. Give me bone x. Yeah.And why not?You got Aiden O'Connell.Little pretty.Wrap it up.I'm going. Aiden O'Connell. Devontae Adams favorite quarterback apparently seems to really like Aiden O'Connell.Yes.Fourth round rookies. Go. He. He outplayed the number one overall pick. Give him credit for that, you know?Yeah, no, he diced up the Chargers. I was there for that. 165.Sorry for making you late. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. I will offer you a two for one. I will give you Darnold. And who are some in Daniel Jones for?I'll take. I'll take Donald and Levis. I'll take Darnold and Levis for Gino.All right, you're.That's done.That's why you're a future GM. This guy is so good.He's stiff army pitch soap and freaking may mayonnaise, man. That's all I'm here for.He's stiff arming job offers left and right just to read. Read ads with us.Appreciate you.Have fun in Alaska. And yeah, hope to get you back on NFL daily on the other side when you're nice and rested.See you, DJ.See you, buddy.All right.Thank you again to Daniel Jeremiah. Doctor tape another podcast and he's off to Alaska. Hope to get him on during the rest of the season. Stay tuned for our last show that.We'Re really excited about.This one with Nook shook on Friday. Till then, see you next time.

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To throw it deeper this year, but I want a little more Exciting Mahomes. I'm going exciting at number two. I'm going Josh Allen. I know there's a lot going on around him this year, but. And he's a little streakier than you would want, but I still think he has an MVP season in him. You kind of forget he's 28. A season where he puts all the mental side together and the physical side. So I feel good about Josh Allen. It, too.

Yeah. He would have been my number two pick as well. So I'm. I'm. And I'll tell you what, as somebody who pushed all his chips in on Kincaid going into that draft, it's. It's only the second year, but I feel like we're getting ready to reap the rewards of that. Like, I thought that was. I loved him individually as a player, and I couldn't have loved the fit more with him and Josh. And I think with Diggs gone now, you're going to see him. That's another podcast for another day. But I'm very good.

Rookie year. Look, he was top ten.

I know if La Porter doesn't have the year he has, I think there's even more buzz on him, but. All right, so now I get to the third pick, and again, it's. I want. I just want him to stay healthy. If he stays healthy, I think Burrows can. I'm going to feel really, really good about this. I know he didn't get off to a good start even when he was healthy last year, but I'm going to choose to believe in the best of Joe Burrow, um, and getting the ball out on time. And I think having a. You know, I don't. I don't always buy into people going to their contract years and, and now they're hungry and now they care. I don't know if I buy into all that, but I do believe in the talent of t. Higgins, and there is obviously extra motivation there to go along with Chase. So I'm going to take Joe Burrow with my next one.

I didn't even write down notes for Burrow because I just knew. I thought you would take him ahead of me because I got a few people ahead.

Burr just, I like traits.

I'm not a scout, but as great as he is, he's had a couple injuries and the traits just aren't quite as exciting as the other options, including Lamar, who's my pick at fourth overall. Everyone wanted a season where. Okay, let's see your volume go up. Like, okay, he had about 680 dropbacks last year. His efficiency went up. They asked him to do more. He came through. He's not the extraordinary best of all time runner that he used to be, but he's still one of the top five runners in the NFL. And I just think he's processing better. It's a nice offense for him, but he showed to me that you could ask him to do everything, have the ball like that back, you know, dropping back on every play. And I think he's going to be better in year two of this offense. So I like Lamar.

Yep. By the way, will there be a team? This is a good topic. We can do another day or you can go ahead and do it on your own, Greg. But I would love to eventually have kind of that long conversation about the best, who are going to be the best twelve personnel teams, who are going to be the best tight end personnel teams. And I think with them, with the Ravens, with likely seeing what he could do last year, get Andrews healthy for a full season, I would, I could make the case. That's the best twelve personnel team in the NFL.

We, we did talk about that a little bit. Not who's the best, but just talked about the teams like the packers, the Ravens that are really the Bills will be there in uptick and just have two great tight ends of Raiders, Ravens rather, as well.

A team that might surprise you, that's going to be a big twelve personnel team is going to be the team that I'm going to take their quarterback with the next pick. And that's Justin Herbert with the fifth. And you talk about traits. There's none better just in terms of the traits. And the, one of the things in calling all of his games, it's still, it's still funny to me. Like when you go down to the field before the game and I have friends on all these different teams and if it's somebody from the personnel department, a GM, a scouting director, that hasn't, you know, maybe they've seen him in college, but they haven't seen him in the NFL. I haven't stood next to him. I love getting the reaction when you go down there on the field and they kind of run out and they all just kind of, they kind of lose their focus on the conversation. Like that dude is huge. I'm all, yeah, no, you don't appreciate just how big this guy is. But I think you're going to see Disley and Hurst and kind of an underrated, a different style of twelve personnel team with how they're going to try and run the ball with those guys.

And then I think they'll get some matchups that they like, even though the receiving corps is going to be all brand new. But Justin Herbert would, would be my pick there. I don't know that statistically it's going to be some crazy year. Like if we're doing this as a purely fantasy football draft, I don't know that I would take him there. But if you're saying who's going to help me win the most games and doing what's asked of him, I'll take Herbert.

Yeah, I love that. And that, that's, see, that's why we have dj on. I haven't heard anyone talking about that, too. Tight end set and those are quiet signings. But they were priority signings where the charges also makes you wonder, you know, here and there it is. Jim Harbaugh, as a coach, wouldn't mind seeing Justin Herbert just use his athleticism. And in the run game, just, just a little bit more famously, Jeremiah rang Turbot like a little low.

Say the name. Say the name.

20Th. He was one spot below, I believe, Ross Blackbuck. Ross Blackblock. And after a while I felt like I was. Even though Jeremiah's far more successful and athletic and tall and handsome than me, I felt like I was actually punching down on Jeremiah with this, just killing him for this over and over. And I was like, I'm going to stop it. There was a point where I was like, I'm no longer going to bring it up. But then the last time, I think you were on the show, you brought it up. So I was like, okay, it's open season, I'll bring it up again.

Yeah. You know what's funny though, is obviously not the Ross Blacklock part of that whole thing, but the other, the other part of that, this is what's so great about the draft is that you can have literally articles written, winners and losers, right. The draft is just completed. They've not even had a practice yet. And then the verdict is in. And then in that draft, do you remember? Because I initially had Jordan Love ahead of Herbert. And then through the process, you know, the senior bowl and everything, and I ended up putting Herbert over Jordan Love. But then, you know, for two, three years, it was like, how could that even be a conversation? Like, Jordan Love doesn't play. Justin Herbert is this elite, you know, be the best quarterback in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, just like that, now it's like you'll see legitimate conversations between those, those two guys are about those two guys as we kind of head on into the future. So that's kind of like a little snippet of the, the life of a, of a scout, I guess, when you're going.

It's a good example, too, because, yeah, I'm sure love is coming up, but I agree with you on Herbert. I struggled to rank just doing this. Herbert or my next pick, CJ Stroud ahead. And that's where, like, yeah, we'll see in three years. Maybe I'm getting ahead over my skis.

But where I was to Adam Peters, who's the GM of the commanders and we were talking about his, you know, process going through trying to pick between, you know, Caleb Williams and, and, you know, doing his homework on Caleb Williams as well as doing his homework on the, on the quarterback. He ended up getting in Jayden Daniels and, and, you know, talking about that and then looking at Drake May and he said, I said, well, what's the lesson you learned from Purdy? Like, you guys just went through this thing. Guys, Mister irrelevant what's the lesson? He said, the lesson is our job was to get the guy who's the best at quarterbacking. And I thought, like, the way he said that, I was kind of like, yeah, because we can talk about everything else. Right arm strength, you know, the ability to improvise, the creativity to play. He's like, at the end of the day, can you communicate the play call? Can you execute the play call? Like, that's what he does really, really well. So I'm going to take Purdy.You know, he was way lower in my list, but he has improved incrementally. Like, he was definitely a much better player by the end of last year. I think people have this first image that he has, and he's a very young quarterback, so he can keep improving. But I'm glad you didn't take them. Yeah, I struggled with where to go here, but I'm going traits, like I said, I'm going Matthew Stafford for now, I just think he finished last season playing as well as ever. I think the way McVeigh keeps him engaged with the play call, like, I'm not saying he's going to have a Brady, like, run. He's not. And I. I would just worry about his health, and that's the risk here. But we've seen with Rogers and Brady, like, sometimes quarterbacks can play some of, if not their best ball, mid to late thirties. I thought Stafford did last year. I think you can do everything. So he's my pick.All right, I've got three guys I'm looking at here, but I'm on to. Okay, in terms, this is, this is someone who I think obviously has a ton of talent, has continued to get better. I love the system that they have around him. I love the continuity, which, you know, one of the things I won't get way off track because I know we'll run out of time here, but I read this book, you'll love it by Adam Grant. Do you read Adam Grant stuff? No, I think, again, is a book that he wrote that did really well. He has a book called Hidden Potential, and in it it's, you know, it's a lot of stuff you can carry over from, like, a business world into the football world. But he talked about Finland's education system and how one of the things that they do and why they've been so successful is this thing called looping, where you have the same teacher maybe from first grade all the way through 6th grade, so that when you start the next year, you don't start over. They know where you, where each student is and they can pick up where they left off and then that's why you have more growth.And I thought, man, continuity might be the most underrated aspect in the NFL in terms of offensive play caller and quarterback. And I think Ben Johnson staying in Detroit and Jared golf getting another chance to move on and continue to grow in that system with the talent around him. I think he has a monster year. I'll take Jared golf.Okay. I, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm, I hear you. And yeah, my son had second and third grade. They had the same teacher. It did, did make a big difference. But look, I want, I want someone that can learn no matter who the teacher is. This guy, Dak Prescott, you know, Walker, my son looked at this list for me. He, this was his big take. Was Dak is too high on your list? But I think people forget he was so good last year. He's been, he hasn't had that continuity. Some of his numbers are crazy. His numbers last year in terms of like he was the best in the league when he was pressure. In terms of QBR, he was the best outside the pocket. Like, he doesn't want to play there, but when he has to, like, he can. I think some of the situation around him has been tougher than it's made out to. So I'm thinking about the whole season. The postseason has obviously been a problem for him, but I'm taking deck.Ok. I'm going to go. Jordan love.Yeah, he was next for me and.That'S why to me, those three guys I had golf, Prescott and Jordan Love, those guys are all touching each other for me. So that's why when you get into this part of it, it's not a decision of this guy or that guy. It's usually like three, four, five different guys you're trying to pick from. But I'll go. Jordan Love. And again, that whole group just growing up together. So, um, as good as it was at the end of last year, everything's just, everything's on the trend, trending up.I had one more guy in that group and it was Jalen Hurts, who's, I think, born months apart from Jordan Love, which you don't think of them together but basically the same age. Love's interesting because when he would play in the preseason and PFF ranks big time throws and turnover where he plays and he was always like first in the league and percentage wise of both of them, but last year he really didn't put the ball up for grabs. He still had the big time throws, but he was pretty careful with the ball. So it's just sample size. Ceiling wise. He could be top five types, top six, but he reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick, just not as a player at all. But Justin, when Kaepernick came out that first offseason, I was like, this guy could do absolutely everything. And then once there's a little more tape on him, he was still great that next year. But I just want to see a little more Jordan Love, and that's why I'm giving Hertz a bit of a pass for last year. We've seen what his ceiling is, which is one of the greatest Super bowl performances ever.We know the floor he has in terms of his running ability, what that provides in short yardage. Great deep ball thrower. He's had some ups and downs in terms of how he handles the blitz. He wasn't, he wasn't healthy last year, but I like that he's played a lot, you know, whereas Jordan love necessarily hasn't. And I think people are a little too quick to just throw him out of the top ten because he wasn't expected to be this, this great quarterback when he came into the league. But I always appreciate it. You went out of your way to put him higher than most going into that draft because you just said you talked to too many people that said there's something about this kid, even if you don't always see it with your eyes, that he's going to have a better career than he expected. And you were right about that.Yeah, his makeup was off the charts and at some point in time you're like, this guy's too competitive, he's too tough, and all that stuff is going to kind of just pull his talent level up to catch up with where he needed to be. So. Yeah, no, I think I'm with you on that one. All right, this next one, I'm between two guys and we'll see if you take the one I was going to take, but I'm actually going to go. I'm going to go maybe against the grain a little bit here. I'm going to take Kirk Cousins with my next pick. I would not cousin.That would not have been my next.Pick just because I think Kurt Cousins. Yeah, coming off the injury. But again, I don't think that isn't is an injury for him that's going to be as impactful as it would be for others. He's going to sit back in the pocket and he's, by the way, my tv just came on. The NFL Network just turned the lights on and, and this other tv, which control looks good.We got a fly bucky style through the rest of this.Yeah. Which I don't know why they did that because a, I'm not on the network today and b, we don't use those lights. But anyways, if I start sweating, that's why I feel like a chicken McNugget in here. The. Yeah, no, Kirk cousins to me and I talked to Kevin O'Connell about it last year and, you know, they wanted to bring him back. It didn't work out in Minnesota and Kevin's like, did. He was on his way to be in the mvp of the league last year, so I still think he's, he's, he's going to have a big year. With all the stuff they have there.In place in Atlanta, I'm surprised for the first time I'm going off my board picking someone that's a one spot lower because now that he's just sitting there this late, too good of a value, I'm going to take Trevor Lawrence.Yeah.Maybe not as down to, down as consistent in the progress that you want, but it's like, and I probably always been lower on consensus just off what he's done in the NFL than Trevor Lawrence. But what he has been isn't absolutely an above average quarterback that can make every throw. And like this, maybe the ceiling isn't quite as high as we expected, but he's been a top ten to twelve quarterback. He should still be getting better. So I feel good about getting him this late.Yeah, I was going to take him there. That was my choice with Kirk and him and, and Trevor not being healthy last year and I think not being able to practice at all during the week, I think that had a big impact. He's got to get better, though, just like the situational stuff. And that was maybe the tiebreaker. You can't, you can't be down inside the ten yard line, turn the ball over. You can't, you know, you got to just be a little bit better at some of the quote unquote quarterbacking stuff. So. All right. At this point in time I feel like it's, I mean, don't we have to, don't we have to account for, for two is production at this point in time? I know that the skills, you know, he's not going to allow you with that, but I think in terms of drafting for this year in the, in a system that's been tailor made for him, and it's skinny to it now. Like, he's all, like, in great shape and everything. So we'll see what that looks like. Hopefully he stays healthy, but at this point in time, I think it's just disrespectful if I don't take him based off his production.Wow. Yeah. I'm not worried about respect. I'm just worried about building a championship. I don't know what that means, but maybe we'll put up.By the way, their comparison that I've used on them is that they are. They are. You remember how the Colts, we would just always say, and during those years, the Peyton run, like, there's nobody more dependent on being at home in the playoffs than the Indianapolis Colts. I think the Miami Dolphins are the modern day colts where if, if they can, if they can get home field and get healthy going into the tournament, I think they could. They could be a Super bowl team. I really do. But they are dependent on playing in their own environment.Well, then they need to jump out like the Colts would do it seemingly every season at like nine and two, you know? Yeah. They always just got so far ahead in the race. I'm excited Kyler is here. I thought he showed some really exciting things over the last half of last season because you could tell he wasn't 100% there physically, but I thought he threw more over the middle of the field. I think he was a nice fit for that offense. I still think he's the ceiling. We've seen the ceiling. He can have like a stretch of five to eight games, like a Kirk Cousins, who to me, is streakier than people realize, where he looks like an MVP candidate flattening out the bad weeks. But, man, I still think the best is yet to come for Kyler Murray.Yep. I'm excited to see that group. I think it's kind of like a sneaky, decent support cast when you look at what they have there, so. I like that. Okay. All right, where do I want to go here with this next one? Starts getting a little tricky. I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go with Geno Smith here.Oh, my God. That hurts me. What did I. I just should have moved him up. The fact I don't have Geno Smith in this draft is killing me.Wow. So, by the way, how, for some reason, how much did you enjoy your, how much did you enjoy your friendship with me now that it's over, by the way, do you want to talk about that or no.Why would that be?You just left. You just gave me Geno Smith with the 17th.I've been pumping up Geno Smith so hard for so many years. It's almost like a parent that watches, you know, that he's at college. He's getting all the love. He's winning the heisman. I did my job. People are giving him. It's been the offseason to GMO. I think you give him time, everyone knows he'll dice you now. It's just common conventional wisdom how good he is. Look, you're even taking him this high. But I do feel like Gino.Gino just chose to live with dad. That's what I. That's what I just think. What happened right there.Aaron Rodgers, we both have doubts, clearly, that he lasted this long. I thought I had him so low that there was no chance I would get him. He was below Gino for me. But he is next on my list. And yeah, it's crazy how deep quarterback is that. We're putting him below average right now. Like, below. We're past 16, so that's pretty great.I don't know.He wasn't that good the last time you played. And he's coming up again.I'm not going to overreact to what you saw in four plays, but him holding the ball on quick game, you know, for the four snaps, didn't get me super inspired about what that's going to look like. Anyway, we'll see what happens there. All right, next one for me. I'm going to go with Baker.Okay.I think Baker getting comfortable and settling in there. I think he takes another step.I think he's the best of those guys that are just kind of stopgap quarterbacks. But I did have him lower than some of the exciting young players, including Caleb Williams. I know he's a rookie. I mean, we. We've seen enough.Trying to hold my water on that. I was hoping I'd just push it off. Just another picture.Freaking Baker Mayfield over Caleb Williams. No way. I mean, we've seen rookies come in and, you know, when I watched him in May, I'm not. I'm not like you watching all these guys so much every year, but just for a prospect, he was the most exciting I could remember since luck. And I. May was in that conversation, too. To me, maybe like a little below that, point in time. It's the Derek Carr portion of the of the draft, so I'll take car.Yeah. It's funny because when you said not the sexiest pick, I just.You know who I'm taking.I knew it was Derek Carr, which is ironic because his brother, you know, very sexy.Will Levis.Intriguing type of guy. I fall for who, man, his good games are really good.Great traits.It has a chance here. I think has a little bit better of a chance. I think maybe it was you that compared him to Jake. Color. I've heard other people, I kind of like that. And, man, Jay Cutler made a lot of money and had a really good career. And if will ever set that career, I think the Titans would be happy.All right, we're speed round. I'm going to go with Russell Wilson.Yeah, that's next on my list.Yeah, they like, they like what they've seen thus far. So everybody's optimistic this time of year, but everything I've heard is two teams.I've given up on him. The Broncos, you know, had to eat so much money to dumb, but he would have been my pick, too. I'm going Daniel Jones. It's just hard to evaluate because he's never protected. But he does. He does throw a nice ball. He can run. If he ever was protected, he'll provide a baseline. That's. That's fine.All right. I'm going to go with Bryce Young and hope that we see improvement. That's just. I don't need greatness. I need improvement. So we'll go there.I think he's short enough to get just little. Little bit of optimism. I'll go Darnold. Because I just think. I can't believe I ended up with Darnold and you ended up with Geno Smith in this draft. Something's wrong. Because I've always been a.Can we train?Yeah. Please. Please.I think you'll wind up playing more. I think it's a great situation. This is his chance. This is. You guys have thought that this is his chance, like four different times to finally be proven right. But I really think this is his chance because I think it's a good situation. I think he'll be. He'll play well in it.Yeah. I would actually make that trade because when I was going through, I totally. I was.Okay, let's do it.I get Gino trade and I need two for one. So give me. So I have two teams, Arnold. Okay. Let me just get through. Let's just get these last two guys pick because I'm already four minutes late for move to six. Greg, let's go. I'll go. You already went Levis. So he's gone. Oh, my gosh.Dude, you have the Broncos and the Raiders next. So we said 32 teams have to be covered.Okay. Those are the only ones.Those are the only two teams left. Yep.Okay. I'll go. Bonix. Give me bone x. Yeah.And why not?You got Aiden O'Connell.Little pretty.Wrap it up.I'm going. Aiden O'Connell. Devontae Adams favorite quarterback apparently seems to really like Aiden O'Connell.Yes.Fourth round rookies. Go. He. He outplayed the number one overall pick. Give him credit for that, you know?Yeah, no, he diced up the Chargers. I was there for that. 165.Sorry for making you late. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. I will offer you a two for one. I will give you Darnold. And who are some in Daniel Jones for?I'll take. I'll take Donald and Levis. I'll take Darnold and Levis for Gino.All right, you're.That's done.That's why you're a future GM. This guy is so good.He's stiff army pitch soap and freaking may mayonnaise, man. That's all I'm here for.He's stiff arming job offers left and right just to read. Read ads with us.Appreciate you.Have fun in Alaska. And yeah, hope to get you back on NFL daily on the other side when you're nice and rested.See you, DJ.See you, buddy.All right.Thank you again to Daniel Jeremiah. Doctor tape another podcast and he's off to Alaska. Hope to get him on during the rest of the season. Stay tuned for our last show that.We'Re really excited about.This one with Nook shook on Friday. Till then, see you next time.

to Adam Peters, who's the GM of the commanders and we were talking about his, you know, process going through trying to pick between, you know, Caleb Williams and, and, you know, doing his homework on Caleb Williams as well as doing his homework on the, on the quarterback. He ended up getting in Jayden Daniels and, and, you know, talking about that and then looking at Drake May and he said, I said, well, what's the lesson you learned from Purdy? Like, you guys just went through this thing. Guys, Mister irrelevant what's the lesson? He said, the lesson is our job was to get the guy who's the best at quarterbacking. And I thought, like, the way he said that, I was kind of like, yeah, because we can talk about everything else. Right arm strength, you know, the ability to improvise, the creativity to play. He's like, at the end of the day, can you communicate the play call? Can you execute the play call? Like, that's what he does really, really well. So I'm going to take Purdy.

You know, he was way lower in my list, but he has improved incrementally. Like, he was definitely a much better player by the end of last year. I think people have this first image that he has, and he's a very young quarterback, so he can keep improving. But I'm glad you didn't take them. Yeah, I struggled with where to go here, but I'm going traits, like I said, I'm going Matthew Stafford for now, I just think he finished last season playing as well as ever. I think the way McVeigh keeps him engaged with the play call, like, I'm not saying he's going to have a Brady, like, run. He's not. And I. I would just worry about his health, and that's the risk here. But we've seen with Rogers and Brady, like, sometimes quarterbacks can play some of, if not their best ball, mid to late thirties. I thought Stafford did last year. I think you can do everything. So he's my pick.

All right, I've got three guys I'm looking at here, but I'm on to. Okay, in terms, this is, this is someone who I think obviously has a ton of talent, has continued to get better. I love the system that they have around him. I love the continuity, which, you know, one of the things I won't get way off track because I know we'll run out of time here, but I read this book, you'll love it by Adam Grant. Do you read Adam Grant stuff? No, I think, again, is a book that he wrote that did really well. He has a book called Hidden Potential, and in it it's, you know, it's a lot of stuff you can carry over from, like, a business world into the football world. But he talked about Finland's education system and how one of the things that they do and why they've been so successful is this thing called looping, where you have the same teacher maybe from first grade all the way through 6th grade, so that when you start the next year, you don't start over. They know where you, where each student is and they can pick up where they left off and then that's why you have more growth.

And I thought, man, continuity might be the most underrated aspect in the NFL in terms of offensive play caller and quarterback. And I think Ben Johnson staying in Detroit and Jared golf getting another chance to move on and continue to grow in that system with the talent around him. I think he has a monster year. I'll take Jared golf.

Okay. I, I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm, I hear you. And yeah, my son had second and third grade. They had the same teacher. It did, did make a big difference. But look, I want, I want someone that can learn no matter who the teacher is. This guy, Dak Prescott, you know, Walker, my son looked at this list for me. He, this was his big take. Was Dak is too high on your list? But I think people forget he was so good last year. He's been, he hasn't had that continuity. Some of his numbers are crazy. His numbers last year in terms of like he was the best in the league when he was pressure. In terms of QBR, he was the best outside the pocket. Like, he doesn't want to play there, but when he has to, like, he can. I think some of the situation around him has been tougher than it's made out to. So I'm thinking about the whole season. The postseason has obviously been a problem for him, but I'm taking deck.

Ok. I'm going to go. Jordan love.

Yeah, he was next for me and.

That'S why to me, those three guys I had golf, Prescott and Jordan Love, those guys are all touching each other for me. So that's why when you get into this part of it, it's not a decision of this guy or that guy. It's usually like three, four, five different guys you're trying to pick from. But I'll go. Jordan Love. And again, that whole group just growing up together. So, um, as good as it was at the end of last year, everything's just, everything's on the trend, trending up.

I had one more guy in that group and it was Jalen Hurts, who's, I think, born months apart from Jordan Love, which you don't think of them together but basically the same age. Love's interesting because when he would play in the preseason and PFF ranks big time throws and turnover where he plays and he was always like first in the league and percentage wise of both of them, but last year he really didn't put the ball up for grabs. He still had the big time throws, but he was pretty careful with the ball. So it's just sample size. Ceiling wise. He could be top five types, top six, but he reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick, just not as a player at all. But Justin, when Kaepernick came out that first offseason, I was like, this guy could do absolutely everything. And then once there's a little more tape on him, he was still great that next year. But I just want to see a little more Jordan Love, and that's why I'm giving Hertz a bit of a pass for last year. We've seen what his ceiling is, which is one of the greatest Super bowl performances ever.

We know the floor he has in terms of his running ability, what that provides in short yardage. Great deep ball thrower. He's had some ups and downs in terms of how he handles the blitz. He wasn't, he wasn't healthy last year, but I like that he's played a lot, you know, whereas Jordan love necessarily hasn't. And I think people are a little too quick to just throw him out of the top ten because he wasn't expected to be this, this great quarterback when he came into the league. But I always appreciate it. You went out of your way to put him higher than most going into that draft because you just said you talked to too many people that said there's something about this kid, even if you don't always see it with your eyes, that he's going to have a better career than he expected. And you were right about that.

Yeah, his makeup was off the charts and at some point in time you're like, this guy's too competitive, he's too tough, and all that stuff is going to kind of just pull his talent level up to catch up with where he needed to be. So. Yeah, no, I think I'm with you on that one. All right, this next one, I'm between two guys and we'll see if you take the one I was going to take, but I'm actually going to go. I'm going to go maybe against the grain a little bit here. I'm going to take Kirk Cousins with my next pick. I would not cousin.

That would not have been my next.

Pick just because I think Kurt Cousins. Yeah, coming off the injury. But again, I don't think that isn't is an injury for him that's going to be as impactful as it would be for others. He's going to sit back in the pocket and he's, by the way, my tv just came on. The NFL Network just turned the lights on and, and this other tv, which control looks good.

We got a fly bucky style through the rest of this.

Yeah. Which I don't know why they did that because a, I'm not on the network today and b, we don't use those lights. But anyways, if I start sweating, that's why I feel like a chicken McNugget in here. The. Yeah, no, Kirk cousins to me and I talked to Kevin O'Connell about it last year and, you know, they wanted to bring him back. It didn't work out in Minnesota and Kevin's like, did. He was on his way to be in the mvp of the league last year, so I still think he's, he's, he's going to have a big year. With all the stuff they have there.

In place in Atlanta, I'm surprised for the first time I'm going off my board picking someone that's a one spot lower because now that he's just sitting there this late, too good of a value, I'm going to take Trevor Lawrence.

Yeah.

Maybe not as down to, down as consistent in the progress that you want, but it's like, and I probably always been lower on consensus just off what he's done in the NFL than Trevor Lawrence. But what he has been isn't absolutely an above average quarterback that can make every throw. And like this, maybe the ceiling isn't quite as high as we expected, but he's been a top ten to twelve quarterback. He should still be getting better. So I feel good about getting him this late.

Yeah, I was going to take him there. That was my choice with Kirk and him and, and Trevor not being healthy last year and I think not being able to practice at all during the week, I think that had a big impact. He's got to get better, though, just like the situational stuff. And that was maybe the tiebreaker. You can't, you can't be down inside the ten yard line, turn the ball over. You can't, you know, you got to just be a little bit better at some of the quote unquote quarterbacking stuff. So. All right. At this point in time I feel like it's, I mean, don't we have to, don't we have to account for, for two is production at this point in time? I know that the skills, you know, he's not going to allow you with that, but I think in terms of drafting for this year in the, in a system that's been tailor made for him, and it's skinny to it now. Like, he's all, like, in great shape and everything. So we'll see what that looks like. Hopefully he stays healthy, but at this point in time, I think it's just disrespectful if I don't take him based off his production.

Wow. Yeah. I'm not worried about respect. I'm just worried about building a championship. I don't know what that means, but maybe we'll put up.

By the way, their comparison that I've used on them is that they are. They are. You remember how the Colts, we would just always say, and during those years, the Peyton run, like, there's nobody more dependent on being at home in the playoffs than the Indianapolis Colts. I think the Miami Dolphins are the modern day colts where if, if they can, if they can get home field and get healthy going into the tournament, I think they could. They could be a Super bowl team. I really do. But they are dependent on playing in their own environment.

Well, then they need to jump out like the Colts would do it seemingly every season at like nine and two, you know? Yeah. They always just got so far ahead in the race. I'm excited Kyler is here. I thought he showed some really exciting things over the last half of last season because you could tell he wasn't 100% there physically, but I thought he threw more over the middle of the field. I think he was a nice fit for that offense. I still think he's the ceiling. We've seen the ceiling. He can have like a stretch of five to eight games, like a Kirk Cousins, who to me, is streakier than people realize, where he looks like an MVP candidate flattening out the bad weeks. But, man, I still think the best is yet to come for Kyler Murray.

Yep. I'm excited to see that group. I think it's kind of like a sneaky, decent support cast when you look at what they have there, so. I like that. Okay. All right, where do I want to go here with this next one? Starts getting a little tricky. I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go with Geno Smith here.

Oh, my God. That hurts me. What did I. I just should have moved him up. The fact I don't have Geno Smith in this draft is killing me.

Wow. So, by the way, how, for some reason, how much did you enjoy your, how much did you enjoy your friendship with me now that it's over, by the way, do you want to talk about that or no.

Why would that be?

You just left. You just gave me Geno Smith with the 17th.

I've been pumping up Geno Smith so hard for so many years. It's almost like a parent that watches, you know, that he's at college. He's getting all the love. He's winning the heisman. I did my job. People are giving him. It's been the offseason to GMO. I think you give him time, everyone knows he'll dice you now. It's just common conventional wisdom how good he is. Look, you're even taking him this high. But I do feel like Gino.

Gino just chose to live with dad. That's what I. That's what I just think. What happened right there.

Aaron Rodgers, we both have doubts, clearly, that he lasted this long. I thought I had him so low that there was no chance I would get him. He was below Gino for me. But he is next on my list. And yeah, it's crazy how deep quarterback is that. We're putting him below average right now. Like, below. We're past 16, so that's pretty great.

I don't know.

He wasn't that good the last time you played. And he's coming up again.

I'm not going to overreact to what you saw in four plays, but him holding the ball on quick game, you know, for the four snaps, didn't get me super inspired about what that's going to look like. Anyway, we'll see what happens there. All right, next one for me. I'm going to go with Baker.

Okay.

I think Baker getting comfortable and settling in there. I think he takes another step.

I think he's the best of those guys that are just kind of stopgap quarterbacks. But I did have him lower than some of the exciting young players, including Caleb Williams. I know he's a rookie. I mean, we. We've seen enough.

Trying to hold my water on that. I was hoping I'd just push it off. Just another picture.

Freaking Baker Mayfield over Caleb Williams. No way. I mean, we've seen rookies come in and, you know, when I watched him in May, I'm not. I'm not like you watching all these guys so much every year, but just for a prospect, he was the most exciting I could remember since luck. And I. May was in that conversation, too. To me, maybe like a little below that, point in time. It's the Derek Carr portion of the of the draft, so I'll take car.Yeah. It's funny because when you said not the sexiest pick, I just.You know who I'm taking.I knew it was Derek Carr, which is ironic because his brother, you know, very sexy.Will Levis.Intriguing type of guy. I fall for who, man, his good games are really good.Great traits.It has a chance here. I think has a little bit better of a chance. I think maybe it was you that compared him to Jake. Color. I've heard other people, I kind of like that. And, man, Jay Cutler made a lot of money and had a really good career. And if will ever set that career, I think the Titans would be happy.All right, we're speed round. I'm going to go with Russell Wilson.Yeah, that's next on my list.Yeah, they like, they like what they've seen thus far. So everybody's optimistic this time of year, but everything I've heard is two teams.I've given up on him. The Broncos, you know, had to eat so much money to dumb, but he would have been my pick, too. I'm going Daniel Jones. It's just hard to evaluate because he's never protected. But he does. He does throw a nice ball. He can run. If he ever was protected, he'll provide a baseline. That's. That's fine.All right. I'm going to go with Bryce Young and hope that we see improvement. That's just. I don't need greatness. I need improvement. So we'll go there.I think he's short enough to get just little. Little bit of optimism. I'll go Darnold. Because I just think. I can't believe I ended up with Darnold and you ended up with Geno Smith in this draft. Something's wrong. Because I've always been a.Can we train?Yeah. Please. Please.I think you'll wind up playing more. I think it's a great situation. This is his chance. This is. You guys have thought that this is his chance, like four different times to finally be proven right. But I really think this is his chance because I think it's a good situation. I think he'll be. He'll play well in it.Yeah. I would actually make that trade because when I was going through, I totally. I was.Okay, let's do it.I get Gino trade and I need two for one. So give me. So I have two teams, Arnold. Okay. Let me just get through. Let's just get these last two guys pick because I'm already four minutes late for move to six. Greg, let's go. I'll go. You already went Levis. So he's gone. Oh, my gosh.Dude, you have the Broncos and the Raiders next. So we said 32 teams have to be covered.Okay. Those are the only ones.Those are the only two teams left. Yep.Okay. I'll go. Bonix. Give me bone x. Yeah.And why not?You got Aiden O'Connell.Little pretty.Wrap it up.I'm going. Aiden O'Connell. Devontae Adams favorite quarterback apparently seems to really like Aiden O'Connell.Yes.Fourth round rookies. Go. He. He outplayed the number one overall pick. Give him credit for that, you know?Yeah, no, he diced up the Chargers. I was there for that. 165.Sorry for making you late. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. I will offer you a two for one. I will give you Darnold. And who are some in Daniel Jones for?I'll take. I'll take Donald and Levis. I'll take Darnold and Levis for Gino.All right, you're.That's done.That's why you're a future GM. This guy is so good.He's stiff army pitch soap and freaking may mayonnaise, man. That's all I'm here for.He's stiff arming job offers left and right just to read. Read ads with us.Appreciate you.Have fun in Alaska. And yeah, hope to get you back on NFL daily on the other side when you're nice and rested.See you, DJ.See you, buddy.All right.Thank you again to Daniel Jeremiah. Doctor tape another podcast and he's off to Alaska. Hope to get him on during the rest of the season. Stay tuned for our last show that.We'Re really excited about.This one with Nook shook on Friday. Till then, see you next time.

point in time. It's the Derek Carr portion of the of the draft, so I'll take car.

Yeah. It's funny because when you said not the sexiest pick, I just.

You know who I'm taking.

I knew it was Derek Carr, which is ironic because his brother, you know, very sexy.

Will Levis.

Intriguing type of guy. I fall for who, man, his good games are really good.

Great traits.

It has a chance here. I think has a little bit better of a chance. I think maybe it was you that compared him to Jake. Color. I've heard other people, I kind of like that. And, man, Jay Cutler made a lot of money and had a really good career. And if will ever set that career, I think the Titans would be happy.

All right, we're speed round. I'm going to go with Russell Wilson.

Yeah, that's next on my list.

Yeah, they like, they like what they've seen thus far. So everybody's optimistic this time of year, but everything I've heard is two teams.

I've given up on him. The Broncos, you know, had to eat so much money to dumb, but he would have been my pick, too. I'm going Daniel Jones. It's just hard to evaluate because he's never protected. But he does. He does throw a nice ball. He can run. If he ever was protected, he'll provide a baseline. That's. That's fine.

All right. I'm going to go with Bryce Young and hope that we see improvement. That's just. I don't need greatness. I need improvement. So we'll go there.

I think he's short enough to get just little. Little bit of optimism. I'll go Darnold. Because I just think. I can't believe I ended up with Darnold and you ended up with Geno Smith in this draft. Something's wrong. Because I've always been a.

Can we train?

Yeah. Please. Please.

I think you'll wind up playing more. I think it's a great situation. This is his chance. This is. You guys have thought that this is his chance, like four different times to finally be proven right. But I really think this is his chance because I think it's a good situation. I think he'll be. He'll play well in it.

Yeah. I would actually make that trade because when I was going through, I totally. I was.

Okay, let's do it.

I get Gino trade and I need two for one. So give me. So I have two teams, Arnold. Okay. Let me just get through. Let's just get these last two guys pick because I'm already four minutes late for move to six. Greg, let's go. I'll go. You already went Levis. So he's gone. Oh, my gosh.

Dude, you have the Broncos and the Raiders next. So we said 32 teams have to be covered.

Okay. Those are the only ones.

Those are the only two teams left. Yep.

Okay. I'll go. Bonix. Give me bone x. Yeah.

And why not?

You got Aiden O'Connell.

Little pretty.

Wrap it up.

I'm going. Aiden O'Connell. Devontae Adams favorite quarterback apparently seems to really like Aiden O'Connell.

Yes.

Fourth round rookies. Go. He. He outplayed the number one overall pick. Give him credit for that, you know?

Yeah, no, he diced up the Chargers. I was there for that. 165.

Sorry for making you late. Yeah. Finally. Yeah. I will offer you a two for one. I will give you Darnold. And who are some in Daniel Jones for?

I'll take. I'll take Donald and Levis. I'll take Darnold and Levis for Gino.

All right, you're.

That's done.

That's why you're a future GM. This guy is so good.

He's stiff army pitch soap and freaking may mayonnaise, man. That's all I'm here for.

He's stiff arming job offers left and right just to read. Read ads with us.

Appreciate you.

Have fun in Alaska. And yeah, hope to get you back on NFL daily on the other side when you're nice and rested.

See you, DJ.

See you, buddy.

All right.

Thank you again to Daniel Jeremiah. Doctor tape another podcast and he's off to Alaska. Hope to get him on during the rest of the season. Stay tuned for our last show that.

We'Re really excited about.

This one with Nook shook on Friday. Till then, see you next time.