I wanted to have you guys on. This is a show near and dear to my heart because I've done really well at it the last two years, and we just need to see if I can keep that going.

Who was your biggest hit the last two years? Who was the one you just nailed?

Well, I'm seven and oh. Through the two years, we did... What? I know. That's what I mean. That's crazy. I was surprised and went back and checked. Mina, you went two and one two years ago, so you acquitted yourself well. We did three, two years ago. Did four last year. It's a little crazy. Under Giants. I can't even remember Under Giants and Bears. I think Over Chiefs, when they going into 2022, when they won the Super Bowl and won a million games, that was easy. A lot have been safe. Eagles over, I think, in 2022. That was pretty easy. It doesn't matter. I don't need to I'm not going to go over that. But I may have thought way too much about this and really struggled to decide who are my last teams because I like it so much. Why don't we start out? It's going to be draft style. Basically, we can each pick the over-unders of any team, an over or an under. But once someone else takes that, you can't take that. We'll just go. We won't do a snake draft style. We'll start with Kevin because I think he's a newcomer.

Oh, my gosh. He's playing hurt with that sport.

With that random Blazer and a map of Electoral College.

Let's start with Kevin, then we'll go to Mina.

I have a question. Can we conceivably, if someone picks X team over, can we draft X team under?

Yes, you can. That would be fun. That is a nice... I would love a I'm probably not going to do that.

I don't think that's going to happen, but I just want to make sure that that little... That would be fun. That jiu-jitsu is on the menu. All right, so I'm looking on my big board here. It's deep. It's a deep board. This is a good draft, but I don't know if it's necessarily top-heavy. What's funny is this is why Vegas makes all the money. Every time I'm like, Oh, I really love this team, I'm going to look and say, Oh, well, Vegas pegged this fairly. This is what we're going to do. So there's one team I'm real high on that I feel like their total is low. It's a team, Mina, you know well. It's Los Angeles Rams, and it's eight and a half. I think, and I've gone over, like Steve and Ruiz, the Aaron Donald thing is going to be so significant, blah, blah, blah. The defense is going to get, it's going to be fine, and the offense is developing into a juggernaut. I really do believe this. I was going through the NFL has a new product, NFL Plus Pro, I think it's called. And I was going through it this morning.

I got access to it. And I was looking all the open numbers. Who has the most separation in your play action? Well, it's Cooper Cup. Sean McVade gets everybody open all the time. He's number one in all of those things. And there's a reason for that. Stafford, I'm not worried about his health. I think this is an NFC contender. And I think of that group, of that tier A, they're the only one with the total that low.

Yeah, the schedule, I think, for the NFC West artificially, not even artificially, but it just depressed all their numbers. You find that going into the year, just which division has tough out of division schedule and you're like, Oh, why is that team still low? Why are all these teams still low? I think that's part of it. They weren't on my long list, and maybe they should be because you're right. If Stafford is healthy, I feel pretty good about that number. For some reason, even though he's already back at practice, just that The team would collapse, I think, without Stafford, even with Jimmy G, and that worries me enough.

It's true of everybody.

That's fair. But I'm more worried about Stafford.

Anybody we're picking to go over would collapse if they didn't have their starting point.

It's true of everybody, but I think the Rams are more dependent on their offense being elite than some other teams because the defense is so young up front. So young. And that's the best player of all time.

I do think there's a floor with the young guys because I think that the verse in Fisk being the thing that we've talked Jordan already reported that they knew they couldn't replace Aaron Donald, so they did it.

I swear to get like- I don't just like it. I'm just saying I think the staff is what scares me, too. The injuries is really the only thing that scares me with the Rams.

Yes. And so literally, they went out and they said, We can't replace Aaron Donald, but we can replace him in aggregate. And so they drafted two Florida State guys. They thought that the chemistry immediately would help them acclimate very quickly. Then they go out and they draft Ken Kitchens from Miami, who I believe is going to start, right? Wasn't that the That was the rumor over the week.

Yeah.

I don't know if he- He didn't dress in the last preseason game, which some of the beats took as a signal that he was at least going to get a lot of.

He's definitely going to play. I'll say that he's definitely going to play. I really like the additions. I mean, you mentioned Cam Kitchens. I love the Cam Curl signing. At safety. A lot of cams back there. I don't dislike this pick at all. That's my only concern with the Rams is not just injuries to staff or potentially you're hearing some injuries on the offensive line. Havenstein, Cups, obviously coming off the injury. It's an offense that when everyone's healthy, I think could be the literally best offense in the entire NFL. I am very high on this team, too, but that is the concern.

How was Sean McVay in the booth in your life? What was that experience like for you?

It was brief. It was brief. He was brief. Wow. Yeah. Also, his headset wasn't working, so I had to give him my headset. So I actually didn't hear. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm a team player.

All right, Mina, You go with the number two overall pick. Here we go.

Okay. This is boring because we talked about it, but I think Bronco's five and a half is probably the best.

First one-off the board.

Well, it's a team that had seven Pythagorean wins last year, and I think upgraded at quarterback, frankly. I think this version of whatever you think about Bo Nicks and his ceiling, and that is a totally fair to debate. I think the floor that he gives you and that this offense is going to give you with him in it is better than we saw last year. Was a defense that was a train wreck to begin the season, pulled things together, still finished 30th in DBOA because of how bad they were at the beginning of the season. Hard to think they're going to be worse. Hopefully, you get a full healthy season out of Aaron Browning. I I just think I just don't see Payton winning fewer than six games two years in a row. I just don't see it.

Our producer Eric, threw up the over-unders for the entire division. If you're watching on YouTube, and yeah, it's one of the worst divisions in the league. It's weird to me that they're a game below the Raiders and three below the Chargers. That is a huge gap. The case against it would be, Bo Nicks, not very talented. Skill position group on paper, among the league's worst. I mean, you can make a case for Javante Williams and some of the secondary receiver stepping up, but it's not that talented. And then defense, where's the strength? What are you excited excited about. They have a number of pass rushers, but no one that gets you really juiced up. The secondary after Sertan, I was trying to think of a potential Marshawn Lattemore landing spot just because it's just on my radar that He left the first practice of training camp with an injury, and no one said anything about it ever since. This was an issue between the team before. Maybe he is actually hurt, and he has a hip injury, which is very concerning for them. Or maybe there's just been bad vibes there and more going on, and I do wonder if the Broncos could certainly use a Martian Latamor, but there's a million teams that could.

All right, I'm going to go third pick. I'm going to go back to... I shouldn't be doing this. Eric put up my my pics from a year ago to me, and over on the bills was one of them, and they barely snuck that out by streaking at the end. You asked what was my best pick. Going under on the Panthers last year. That was pretty strong. I'm going over on the bills again. Nine and a half. Sometimes I think you shouldn't overthink these. Just look at their win total in the last five years. Ten, 13, 11, 13, and then 11 last year. So that was starting in the Josh Allen first playoff season. Their point differential is always over 125. They've been top six in offensive points four straight years, top four in defense four straight years. They are objectively Probably, by any measure, one of the best teams consistently in the NFL. So my main thing is, why not? I know the schedule is pretty tough in that division, in and out of division. But if we're doing this all just because Stefan Diggs isn't there, you can come up with some ways they've gotten worse over the last year.

But they also have the best offensive line, maybe, of the Sean McDermann era. They might have the best running game. They've developed their cornerbacks pretty well. Christian Benford is a real player. They like... We'll see. But Every preseason, they say Kyrie Elam looks terrible and is not going to ever win the job, and they're right. Then this preseason, they're saying he looks pretty good, that he looks good. Greg Ruso's popping up. I get the strength. The schedule is why their number is so low. But to me, Sean McDermott is one of the coaches that gives you a schematic advantage, Kevin, in some way, and that's a very consistent defense. I'm not overthinking. I'm going over bills again. This is probably the last time or the first time they've this low in the McDermott era.

I completely agree with you. And I believe McDermott has exceeded his win total in every single season. I believe that. I saw that stuff the other day, which would track, frankly. I talked to Joe braided, their new OC, or their vaguely new OC. This is his first training camp is OC in Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago. And I said, What are you doing? What's keeping you up at night? And he was like, We want to be able to win every single way. We want to be able to have the James Cook way against Dallas. We want to be able to have Josh. They're not trying to change Josh Allen, but they're just trying to say, We need to be so flexible that we can win any game. And I really do think that's possible. And I also think it's just because of the singular talent of Josh Allen. Josh Allen, we did this exercise on my show last week. There are what? I think there are six quarterbacks who are actually worth the money, who deliver value more than what they take away with the $40 million a year that you're paying them. I think there's about six.