I'm in the spin room after the first BBC debate of this general election campaign. And despite all the different parties, all the different voices on the political spectrum that were on that stage, it was really notable that the Labor Representative, Angela Reina, and the conservative Representative, Penny Mordon, they almost always tried to pretend that there was no one else there. They were focusing on each other. Quite a few of the smaller party representatives tried to tell you that this election is over. We had a few of them in their closing statements say that Labor has already won this election. In the case of the Green co-leader, Carla Denia, and reforms leader, Nigel Farage, they both said there's no difference between Labor and the Conservatives, and that's why they were saying people should vote for them. Hennie Mordent, the conservative Representative, was put on the spot about Rishi Sunak's decision to leave Dede. She did not try for a moment to make a defense of her embattled leader there. We began the day talking about Dede. I think for all the antics, all the sound and fury of this debate, that is still going to be an issue that lingers long after this debate for Rishi Sunak.