Do you remember the '60s? Yeah. What was your viewpoint of Pakistan then?

The '65 war took place. That's when the awareness of Pakistan started. By the time you came to '71, then you realized that you had broken off half the country.

What was happening with this whole POK situation in that whole phase?

You have to go back to 1947. Pakistan had signed a standstill agreement with the Rajah of Kishmir, but it broke that standstill agreement and sent in readers to forcibly convince or merge Kishmir. In 1965, Ayyup Khan sent in infiltrators under Operation Jibraltar. And then in '71, you had had Al Shams and Al Badr in Bangladesh. They were Bingolis, trained by Pakistan.

This is a soft form of terrorism.

Pakistan has a decades long history of terror.