I want to take off my shoes and get cozy now. Do it, do it, do it.

There's water behind you if you need it.

For me, it's like, I think I want to drink. I'm suddenly nervous.

Should we go get a drink? Yeah. Okay, man.

Okay, let's go. Okay. We're like, You guys are doing it.

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with call our Daddy. Let me hear you guys. Give me a little...

How's that? Hey. See that- Hey, Alex.

Hi, Oh, wait, maybe bring yours down because I want to see your face a little. Take off your top. Okay, Sydney, can you bring that closer to your mouth? Is this good? I don't know why you're singing, but I love it. I actually don't need to sing. I don't think at all. Devon and Sydney Carlson, welcome to Call Her Daddy. There's no crowd. Let me start off with, you guys are the first official sisters I have ever had on Call Her Daddy. Really? Or I guess people related even.

We clap a lot. Carlson clap. My dad calls it the Carlson clap because we clap all the time. I think we got it from them. Any time. My parents will always start a clap, and it just has gone down to us. When we were little, anything, the smallest things we did, they were like...

They were like, What's your job, girls.

Even now, we walk in their house and they're like...

I love it because you guys keep clapping at me. I'm like, Yes. I'm like, Welcome to Carlson. I'm like, Yes. Okay, you just had a birthday. I just had a birthday. Happy belated birthday. You went to Vegas.

I went to Vegas.

Tell me, what was the most memorable moment in Vegas? What happened? What did you do?

Well, the entire trip was a surprise.

She didn't know.

A few months ago, we were all sitting in my bedroom and I was like, What are we going to do for my birthday? We got to make it big. Because it was my first... Whatever.

For a single birthday in a while? Yeah. We can say it. Okay, for a single birthday in a while, you were going to do it. You got to do it big.

You could do it big. I was like, Katie Perry, obviously, we have to see.

That's what started the idea of going to Vegas.

Then we were looking up the dates and then She happened to be playing, and so we were like, Fuck it. Then I started getting closer, and they were like, What do you want to do? I was like, Can part of my gift just be that I don't plan it? Can you guys just plan it? Everything was a highlight. But I feel like one of my favorite parts was when we were all at the lobby bar, and everyone kept coming down and showing off their outfits, and we'd be like,. It was so cute. Because we didn't stay in the same room. We all stayed in separate rooms, so it felt like camp. And then everyone, we would group chat.

It was summer camp.

We're meeting at the lobby.

And then everyone would come down, it was like a fashion show seeing everyone's outfits. I don't know.

Okay, so you were there? Yes. Do you usually get invited to each other's shit?

Yeah. Within the past few years. Well, because we were just sisters for a really long time. Just related.

I feel like in high school.

When did you become friends? Walk me through the experience.

High school, we were definitely like sisters. Still like friends. We never have really fought growing up.

I don't think we've ever had a real fight.

Every fight has been about clothes.

Screaming, crying, everything.

In unison. Been About Clothes. Why are you fighting over clothes?

Because you borrowed that without asking. You didn't ask me. My first job, I spent all of my money on mainly gas Gas and clothes. Got it. I would work hours for little money, and then I go to the Urban Outfitters sales section, buy one thing, and then go to wear it, and it's gone.

I'm like, I worked so hard to buy this fucking shirt, and she's wearing it without asking.

And then there was the trade. It's like, Okay, well, if you borrowed that without asking, then I get to wear this that you've never worn. I get to wear two things that you've never worn.

But you can't post a photo on it.

Are you guys in the same friend group?

Yeah.

We're I feel like we hang out every day, basically. Our friend group is the same. We're a friend group. It was like, Sydney went through a gnarly relationship and then got out of it.

I feel like we weren't close at all during that relationship. And it really made me be like, Oh, my gosh. Okay, once she's out of this, I can't. It showed me what I almost lost my sister, I felt like, in my life. I was like, I'm never I'm like, Why did this happen again. I'm forcing her to be my friend, basically.

So after the relationship, we became really close.

Did you feel that, too?

Yeah. I mean, it was a fact.

Friends are amazing. But friends are friends. They're not your blood. The fact that you guys are friends and your blood.

Yeah, I think we forget sometimes. Our friends sometimes are like, I always forget you guys are sisters. We hang out with sisters. It doesn't feel like...

But we'll also do our bickering fights about just Sister fight. Our friends will be like, Sister fight.

But it'll last five minutes, and then we'll be like, Should we go get dinner?

I want to get an idea of your personalities, but described by the other person. Devon, you go first. Just Describe Sydney's personality and how friends view her and who is she in the friend group, and what is her personality? Give me the fucking team.

Sydney is the funny one. She's the funiest one out of all of our friends. Sydney can never be serious for more than five seconds. She's perfect, and she's also fun. I don't know. She's not silly or good piece. She's just dry, funny, serious.

Okay, dry humor and monotone is the fucking fun of that thing. That's what she is. When you're like, What did you just say? You're Absolutely. Okay, that, I feel like we already got to know you a little bit better. Now do it for Devon.

Devon's not the quiet one. She can be put in a room with complete strangers and walk out with 10 friends, 10 new numbers, lunch plans.

No, that's Sydney.

Oh, my God. No. We are- You go out, you get everyone's phone numbers. Okay, but that's when I'm drunk and I give people my number. That's completely different.

You're like, alcohol was involved.

She can do this just naturally. That's where They're very different. She's social butterfly, can talk to anyone, be friends with anyone. And it's honestly really... It's a talent of hers.

And you're the first one. If you're walking the door, you're talking first, and then she's I'm calling you with hilarious jokes.

The joke was always like, whenever people will get to meet us, they'd always be like, Sydney's really the funny one. You think that Devon's the funny one, but then you get to know it's like, Sydney's the funny one.

Are you okay with that?

It's true. They can't really be mad.

I feel like this is I have to just appreciate it and accept it.

We work perfectly together.

Your sisters, your best friends, and your business partners. Your company, Wildflower, creates the best phone cases. I'm pretty sure when we were drunk at Olivia O'Brien's music video or somewhere, you guys-Oh my God. You lightly started telling me this- Was that the first time we met? I think it was. We were upstairs. Yes.

Oh my God. And then we came over before. You came over to a- At the finish. At the finish. Oh my God. Yes.

And You broke the latex outfit.

Oh my God, I did. It was so awkward because I didn't know anyone. I was like, Hi, girls. You guys were so nice. You were like, Show us your vagina. Let's just get out of the way. Let's go.

I remember that. We were like, We love her.

She's so cute. Then we got drunk at the music video while Olivia was crushing it in the corner. We're like, She's working. We're just going to get hammered. And you guys started to tell me the story of how it all came to be. Tell us the story for the Daddy Gang that doesn't know.

Well, it happened 10 years ago now. We just celebrated our 10-year anniversary. Well, congratulations. That's fucking volatile. Thank you. It's crazy. Holy shit. Very crazy. I really wanted a phone case for my birthday. Iphone had just come out, so there wasn't really cute accessory phone cases. It was just the solid color protective ones. It wasn't thought of an accessory.

Because it didn't exist.

The Otter box or whatever.

It was just to cover your phone.

Our mom has always been very creative and crafty. She was making the shorts with the studs on them and putting sewing fabric on them. She's always just a very DIY. She used to be an art teacher. She was an art teacher. She just loves doing stuff like that. She thought to get a clear foam case, put fabric in it, and stud the outside of it herself. She made a few of them and gave them to me and Devon. We went to school and our friends were like, What is that? We want that. She made them for our friends. Our friend group had them at school and people were seeing them. We would go to the mall and people would stop us and be like, Where did you get that phone case? Like, random people all the time. The first day, my mom actually carried extras in her car because people would stop us that often. She would have been like, Well, I have some if you want to buy them off of us.

There was no company or anything.

We literally were just like... It wasn't an idea to make it a company at all.

We just were like, Oh, we'll tell our mom what type of fabric to buy and what stud patterns to do. We literally didn't. There was no vision of growing it at all.

Or having a company that was no one's plan. Yeah.

Then one day she was keeping him on her. We went out to dinner.

The four of us.

The four of us, my family. We got up to use the bathroom and we were waiting in line and Miley Cyrus walked out of the bathroom stall. This was like Miley's bun era. I was the biggest Hannah Montana fan. Me too. Girls at school knew me as the girl who was obsessed with Hannah Montana. My obsession. Obsessed. She walked out and I was like, Holy fuck.

I was like, Wait.

I was like, This is my in. I have to say something. I was like, I know it's really annoying, but do you mind if we take a photo together? Then we took a picture together.

I took it with the phone that had the phone case on it. Miley was like, That phone case is so cute. Where's it from? We were like, Our mom made it. She was like, Does she have a company? We were like, No. She said, Is your mom here? We were like, Yeah. She said, Can I go meet her? We were like, Sure. Didn't even go pee. Walk out of the bathroom We're walking back to our table, me, Dev, and Miley, and our parents are like, What are they doing?

What's going on? There was a girl we went to school with, tweeting. Yeah, she was like, What the hell is going on? She was like, What is going on? I see the Carlson.

We're walking out of the bathroom, and Miley taps our mom on the shoulder and was like, Did you make these phone cases? They're so cute. We were like, Yeah. She was like, You guys should start a business. This is really cool. This is a really cool idea. You guys should start a business. My dad looked at her. My dad was a graphic designer for years. And so we looked at Miley and said, We'll have a website in the morning. And we were like, We will?

What are you talking about? And in the midst, she got my Twitter handle. And so she ended up- We gave her all the cases off our phones, too, and the ones in the car.

We were like, Take everything. What do you want? You could have everything. She went back to her table, took a photo of them, tweeted it.

Tag me in her tweet. Everyone started. And this was like 2012 Twitter. No one, it was unheard of to get mentioned by by anyone, a celebrity or anything like that.

And all of our phones had died. So we didn't even know. We're driving home, freaking out, waiting to get a phone charger. All of us plug our phones in. We're like, oh my God.

And all the phones like... And all Everyone from school is texting me.

Texting us like, what's this tweet? My dad stays up all night that night.

I mean, when Miley Cyrus fucking looks at you, it is like, you need to have a company. And your dad's like, we'll have it tomorrow.

So then we started tweeting, responding to people like wildflowercases. Com. We had no inventory. We had nothing. We ended up selling our house and that funded all of Wildflower, and we moved into our grandma and grandpa's house, and we still ran all of Wildflower for the first five years inside of our house. She quit her job. I quit my job first.

I did. I did that. Our mom quit her job, and then our dad, when he did, we were like, Okay, this is real. This is real.

So I tried to go to college. I really was embarrassed about... It was weird because no one was starting companies. It was me and Sydney more so because she was a freshman, and it was taking time away from hanging out with her friends.

It was weird.

It was weird to start a business. So it wasn't as supported as it is now.

I guess I could see that because they're like, What are you doing? And a business no one thinks that's cool.

It was very like, you're not going to college?

I was like, I I had one friend in high school throughout all of this because they thought it was different and weird. And it wasn't the normal.

It was a lot of just making fun. Like, oh, little, whatever.

And posting on Instagram was weird.

I think people that are now beginning the TikTok phase of feeling embarrassed that if kids find their TikTok in school because people are like, oh, it's embarrassing. And it's like, no, it's not. Why is it embarrassing? It's very normal. Have you guys ever talked to Miley about that whole blow-up and moment?

I did recently. Not recently, but beginning of this year, one of our friends was working with her, and I got the opportunity to meet her and hang out with her. We actually saw her a lot.

She was really great and really cool.

I just kept being like, I owe so much to you. You don't understand.

It's really fucking cool to see how much you guys have grown and also how close you guys are. So it hasn't broken up the family. No.

If anything, it was like, our family depends on this. So if everyone's not holding up their part of the bargain, then we're not going to have a roof over our heads. So it was like, literally we had to work. I mean, I feel like now we're at a point where we've been able, we're lucky enough to build a team that we genuinely trust and have been able to delegate enough stuff out. So now I feel like I'm actually starting to live my college years since I worked through my real college years. But I I mean, I'm just so endlessly happy and grateful.

It's still very surreal. It's crazy.

Girls, we're going to talk about your dating lives. Take your sip of alcohol. Here we go. I'm going to go back and forth between both of you. I'm going to give you each the love and the attention that you deserve. Okay. Alex. Devon, we're starting with you, okay? Are you currently dating anyone?

Yes.

How serious How curious is it? Has he met your family? Tell us.

Well, there's like... She's rushing.

She doesn't know what to say. Take your time.

He's really... That wasn't us. He's just in a deep breath.

Take your time. Just share where you're comfortable.

It's fun stuff. Well, we... So obviously, I was in a relationship for a very long time, a public relationship, and we had the most mutual breakup ever. And we still are totally chill and friends, and supportive of each other and whatever. But then I was like, holy fuck, I'm single for the first time in my entire life. Well, adult life, basically. And I just went on a wild journey that I feel like it lasted almost a year-ish. So the guy I'm currently with was a part of that early on and has just been with me back and We're through that, but now we're exclusively seeing each other, and he has made it through my craziest moments and still likes me for whatever reason.

Carlson Cough. He gets the cloud. He gets the cloud. Claps all around. Thank you for sharing. Can Can you give us a little bit of an explanation when you're talking about a wild year? Just a little bit of what you're talking about.

I was just zero fucks. I'll go on a date with anyone right now. Just really throwing myself out there and making up for lost time and having so much fun.

Good for you.

I kept being nervous that no one was going to like me. I was so I'm really insecure about it.

I get it. When you're in a long term relationship, first, it's a little shocking to end that, whether it was a good breakup, bad breakup. It's like, I'm single. What does it even mean? How do I even act? What the fuck do I do? And so you just went a little wild and you had a fucking great year.

I just kept being scared that people were thinking I was being crazy. But in my head, I'm like, I have never done this. There's no way that I'm being crazy.

Did you think she was being crazy? Yes.

No, I thought she was more crazy at the end of your relationship than out of it.

So you were happy she was out of it?

Yeah. It was honestly the best month ever. I was like, This is the most fun we've ever had. It was a little bit of the same feeling that she had when I was in a relationship, but not as intense at all, but was just like, Wow, we're really just free and hanging. Our friend group was just...

It was just so free. Do you think you're more of a relationship girl?

I think for being single, yeah. From the moments that I was single, I just kept finding myself in situations. Are you single?

I'm single.

Are you more a relationship girl or single girl?

Well, I don't know because she's the type of relationship girl where she will get in multiple relationships very easily. I might be a relationship type of person, but I don't get into them very often at all. Got it. Even in high school, she had a different boyfriend every month. I think I had one maybe all four years. It takes me a lot to get to that point to actually date someone.

Everyone's got their own thing. I have friends, both. And that works for her? Totally.

She's just so harsh. But the thing is The things that she says aren't not true. She would bring up things about a guy I was seeing, and I was like, oh, fuck. A guy was dropping me off at a hotel, and she was like, I thought it was your... Or she goes up to him and goes, I thought you were her Uber driver. And I was like, Stop!

And he was like, Hey, I was like...

Oh, I thought you were the Uber.

I literally said that, and then afterwards, I was like, Oh, my God. I called him the Uber driver.

Was he mortified?

He needed it.

He needed to be humbled.

Okay, so You will call out shit about the guy. She's seeing what the thought.

She will literally be sitting on my couch and being like, make me a latte.

And he did this guy. She was like, I was like, I want a smoothie. And he made me a smoothie. And he put chocolate chips in it.

Why do you do that? Just test the boundaries.

It's very entertaining for me to watch all of this happen. So it's just like I'm watching TV and can be a part of it.

How does it make you feel when she's doing this?

I just love when my sister interacts with any guy that I've seen at all because I feel like it takes a lot for her to be herself around people. That's why the new guy that I'm with, the fact that she can be her funny self around him means more to me than almost anything. But I just think I care I'm not doing a lot what my friends think. If my friends don't like someone, I'm pretty like... When it comes to guys, I'm like, Oh, they're done. Then it's not good. It's not happening.

Have you gone on any dates recently?

I have been on one date my whole life.

Are you and Stas? She was like, what? She said the same thing. When she said that, she was like, I don't go on dates. I'll see you at Hyde or like, I'll see you at like, what the fuck, Stas? Or they come to my house. Why do you think you're just not dating?

How do you meet people? Stas' house. I guess I...

I guess I... Stas' house. I guess I...

I don't. I don't know. I have never been interested in that type of dating. Going on dates with new people. Everyone that I have gotten into a relationship with, I have been friends with and become really close with. And then I'm like, Oh, my God, we have feelings. We're dating. Got it. I'm just... Not even that it's hard or uncomfortable. I just don't care to.

I'm not that type of dater.

I guess.

She went on one date and she was group chatting us like, who's going to come meet up with us now? Because I was instantly not into it, and I knew I wasn't into it.

I guess also I rarely find people that I feel like I could date seriously. I don't know. There's some people that I'm like, okay, there's something about this person that I could like. But that happens very rarely.

I think that's fair. Yeah. Okay, how would you each describe each other's type?

I'm curious what you will say. Sydney likes... Well, they have to be funny.

Okay. Funnier than you?

Sydney has to find them funny. Okay, fair. Which is unique sense of humor. She likes when they're like... I don't want to offend anyone.

Go for it.

What are you going to say? She likes like...

What's the nicest way to put it? What are you going to say? I don't know. Sydney likes interesting-looking people. They have to be unique-looking. There's something almost off about them or their style is very weird. The normal person would be like, They're weird. That's Sydney's type.

And what do you say back to that?

I would agree. That's a funny way to describe it. How would you describe it? I'm I'm really attracted to men who are very comfortable in themselves and who they are. Don't just give off that vibe like, They don't care what other people think of them. And they will wear whatever they want, look however they want, and they're just confident in that and who they are. I think it makes me very comfortable around them and be like, I could totally be myself, say whatever I want, wear whatever I want, and they would be like, That's cool.

Give me Devon's type.

Honestly, you're all over the place with the type.

Is it musicians all through?

Usually musicians. They find me. It's always an attraction. It's not me. It's not me.

It's not my fault. Okay, what did you say?

It can be a musician, and that ranges in all areas. But as long as they're a musician, I think she has some attraction.

Is it because they sing to you?

No. I just find... When Cindy said, when someone's so themselves, that to me is so attractive. When they just don't... They aren't trying to impress anyone, and I think that they're cool. Totally. I just think that that's... Or I find them interesting. But the musician part, I think dating-wise, my lifestyle just works well with someone who's like... Our schedules usually work better when it's like, we're constantly both traveling.

You're a backstage bitch. That's fucking hot.

Backstage lifestyle.

We were dancers. We like music. But it's just funny because half the time, I'm literally like, I like the music that I like is never really the guys that I...

You talked about how you had an intense relationship that you guys had a little... Not falling out, but you just press pause in your relationship. Devon, how did you approach handling when you didn't like who Sydney was dating?

We just did not talk about it.

But I knew.

But it was more so because my boyfriend and her boyfriend didn't really mesh, and they didn't ever want to be in the same place. So not because anything had happened. It was more just no communication was the communication. Was the communication. So it was just constantly avoiding each other. And then I was like, Obviously, I have to be loyal to the person that I was with. And she felt the same. So then we were just co-existing and working together.

So when you guys would work, would you just not talk?

I mean, we were so busy. There was not really any talking. But we went to customer service, and she was packing and shipping every order. And so it was literally just hours of me responding or answering phone calls, and Sydney just like...

But we wouldn't hang out outside of that.

And did your parents know what was going on?

Yeah. Yeah, they weren't too fond of him either. I don't think anybody was. But I also think everyone has to have a relationship like that. It was such an insane experience, but I'm so glad it happened. I, forever, I'm so grateful of that relationship. And I also was like... I think I met him when I was 18, 19, and it lasted till I was 22. So So it was a lot of... I was young, and that was my first big, intense relationship, and it just took everything out of me. And I had never been in something that intense. I talk about it. It's not like Something I hide at all. But he was a drug addict, and that was something that developed over the years and also something that I didn't know much about being so young. I didn't know what anything was or what was bad, what wasn't. And also something that I didn't want to talk to my family about or my friends about. How do you tell your friends and family that that's what you're dealing with and going through? So that ate at me inside and took a lot of everything out of me.

That just consumed me. I bleached my hair, classic, when you're in a terrible relationship and my hair was falling out. I had an eating disorder. I stopped talking to a lot of my friends, my family. She wasn't talking I just consumed it all in myself because it was so... I was trying to help him and be there for him, but also he wasn't giving that to me. It was the lowest low as I've ever had. But also when it was great, it felt amazing. I held on to those moments, and it was just a lot. But our parents have been together since they went to prom together in high school.

They- Our parents were each other's first boyfriend and girlfriend, and they're They're still together.

So growing up, that was my view of what love is. You find that one and you do anything to make it work, which is amazing. I'm so glad we have that and that they have that. But also getting into a relationship like that, I'm like, I will fight for this. I will do anything to keep it, no matter how much it hurts or whatever. This is what love is. And I had to learn that's not the truth. When it hurts you that bad, that's when you say this isn't right.

I Thank you for sharing that because I had something similar in high school. That was my first love. I really think a lot of people will relate to the good is in moments because it's so good because you're contrasting the awfulness of those moments. And so you're holding on to the good. I think that everyone knows once you're out of it and you're like, Oh, I did distance myself from my friends and family. You can look back. But when you're fucking in it, it's literally you're just trying to survive.

You're blinded. You're completely blinded. I had no idea. And it honestly took a few years out of that to just get back to myself. I didn't even think about dating or seeing other people. I was just like, Okay, I need to get back to myself and my friends and my family and focus on myself. And after that, that took a few years. I'm currently the best I've ever been.

Carlson clap.

So content being alone, almost too content, where I'm like, I would rather stay home than go out at this point. But I'm I probably could be in a relationship if I wanted to right now, but I'm very content.

Now knowing, have you guys had conversations about, Fuck, we can never let this happen to each other again and lose each other in those moments?

Yeah, we know. I was pretty like, when She called me and I was at breakfast with my boyfriend and she was like, He cheated on me. We just broke up. And I dropped everything, didn't even finish my meal, and just immediately drove home. She was like, It's happening. I called. I literally was like, oh my God, what is happening? Everyone's like, I know. I called our childhood best friend who basically was Sydney's second older sister. I was like, They broke up. She's like, I'm on my way. So we all I called everyone and we all got there as fast as we could. Then my best friend Nicole and I took Sydney to Disneyland the next day and we kept being like... Because the friends that she had had at that time that she was closest with, I felt like, didn't ever Tell her, get the fuck out of there. A lot of the friends that wanted... It was like, she didn't want to hear what we were saying necessarily. I was like, we got to show her what it's like to be treated right, have really good friends and healthy relationships. And so it was welcoming Sydney in with open arms to anything we were doing.

I was always inviting my sister, even if she didn't come 20 times in a row. I was like, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, you're invited, until she finally started coming and having fun and then getting comfortable. And then she just like, blossomed into the Sydney that we've known all along.

How did you find out he cheated?

The girl... Well, The last time, the girl- Which time? The girl DM me. And it was- Classic. He was- Classic. He was also a musician, but was on tour, and it happened somewhere. And she sent me photos in his shirt and was That feeling when you find out and you're like, I don't even know what to do with myself right now. Oh my God, my stomach. All my anxiety, everything goes to my stomach, which is why I think it made me just not eat because that's immediately what I feel is in my stomach. And I was so lost because I didn't have close friends. I barely talked to my family. I felt like my world was like, oh, my God, this can't end. I have nothing. Thank God. Thank God. I'm like, thank you for cheating on me.

That was the best thing you've ever done. Thank you. It was the best thing ever.

In the moment, the shit that sucks. Then you look back and you're like, thank fucking God, you fucked up. Because if it wasn't that, I may have still been in that shit. And look where you are fucking now. Do you guys have fake accounts?

Yeah, I have 10 Of course.

I'm like, How many do I have?

I have this stalker account.

You have your Finsta, you have your stalker.

I am psycho.

Wait, tell me who... I love it. She actually is. I love that. I love you even more now because...

She's like... Well, no. When my ex-boyfriend used to go on tour, when we got back... Because we dated, we broke up, then we got back together, and that was the seven year. I, in the beginning, was a fucking maniac. I don't know how he put up with me. I love it. I would go on and I would look up their tour. I had the tour manager, he forwarded me their tour schedule. I would go to every venue's Instagram page and watch every story of everyone that was there. And then look at the girl, everyone's profile that was there, tagged photos, everything.

I actually really respect you for admitting it because I feel like there's no shame in stalking. Who gives a fuck? It's too fucking easy.

Everyone does it. I'm not saying you don't. You're lying. I know.

Even this guy that I had gone on a few dates with, he DM me. And it was the first time that I had gone and met up with someone over DM that I didn't previously know, but he knew people that I knew and whatever. I was like, Okay. And we hung out. He's like, So are we just going to act like we haven't completely talked to each other? I love that. I know. You're like, Attractive. You're like,. Then suddenly, it was like he was bringing up things and I was bringing up things, and I was bringing up things, and then I was like, suddenly, I'm 20 times more comfortable with you. It feels like I know you already. We were arguing by the end of the date, and I was just like, whatever.

Well, because it's also like, let's just keep it real. I know who your ex-girlfriend is already. And this is our first date. And I know who she is, where she works. I'd like to just get it. I agree. Let's just get it out there. Girls, we're about to play a game. Okay, go under your seats. You have these two little cars. Basically, we're going to play Which Sister Sister. Do not... I was feeling under the chair. I was like, it's under here. Okay, so we're playing Which Sister is more likely to. And so don't show each other. But basically, I'm going to ask, and you'll hold up whichever Sister is more likely to. Okay. Which sister is more likely to be the favorite child? Wait, why?

No shame. Honestly, Sydney gets away with everything. I I always got in trouble for... She always does that. She has done 50 times crazier things, but I always get the blame.

Youngest child.

I think that's just the youngest thing.

Which sister is more likely to take something from the other sister's closet without asking? This is a great moment. You're both taking accountability.

Well, because I just... I want to avoid... The thing is, I'm like, if I ask, it's going to start drama before the night goes out or whatever. I would rather postpone the drama and deal with later so I can just feel good, wear the top that I want to wear, and then worry about it.

I think I could steal it and get away with it.

I feel like you would ask. Sneaky little bitch. No.

No. Maybe she hasn't.

I haven't noticed. You don't know shit.

You don't know shit. Okay. Which sister is more likely to post Is she just drunk on Instagram?

It used to be me, but I feel like it's still you.

I think it's still me.

What do you drunkenly post? You just not give a fuck. You're like, post.

She'll just post.

She just does it. I'll just think something's so funny and be like, Yeah, this is my bit for the night.

And then the next morning, I'm like, What are you doing?

Yeah, but then I'm like, It's too late. You can't.

Because then they know you read it.

And then you can't delete it.

Which sister is more likely to give better head? I'm like, Fuck you.

We're both ourselves like, Hi.

For every answer, I'm like, Oh my God, that's so cute.

Self-aware.

I love that. I love that. Okay, great. You guys. Great head game. Which sister is more likely to fuck on the first date? And he's like, Do me not call.

I don't go on dates, remember?

On the first hangout. That doesn't feel... I love it. But guess it?

She goes on more dates more.

Okay, there you go.

I have never fucked on the first date.

I love that for you, Cindy. Get it in and get it out. Okay, goodbye. I don't go on dates, okay. Which sister is more likely to, if they were ever to, go on a reality show? Which Do you want to go on one?

Yes, she has been trying to get our family on a reality show since she was in high school.

We actually for a year were talking to people about doing your other show.

I would watch it, one viewer, get canceled after one season. Which I think sister is more likely to text her ex when drunk. Love that for you. Are you just shooting it out?

I'll literally be just staring at it and be like...

She won't even tell anyone.

She'll do it and then be like... But it's not even like... It'll just be like, Oh, fuck. My random choosing of the night.

I'll be like, Fuck, who am I thinking about? And everyone's like, Devon, where do you do it? Devon. And she's like...

I'm so proud. I sent it.

Also, she doesn't get scary. She will text her ex, do whatever, and then the next morning, she'll be like, That last night was so fun. And I'm like, What? How do you do that? Are you mortified? She doesn't get any.

I love being admirable.

It's admirable.

Which sister is more likely to have a threesome? Have you had a threesome?

She won't call it that, but I think it was- She won't call it that. Because there was four.

There were four. Boom. Even better. Even better. I love that for you. Was it fun or was it awkward?

No, it was great. Great. It was my friend was there. So it was like...

So it was totally fine. It was fine. Okay, good for you. Which sister is more likely to get kicked out of the club?

Loki.

Devon, what the fuck are you doing in the club?

Why are you crazy? She's crazy. I'm We're really clumsy, so I knock over a lot of stuff. She'll spill drinks. She'll spill big things.

That's why.

That's why. It wouldn't be because I'm like... It would be because I've had two drinks and I go like, not trying to fight. We were in Vegas, and I went with some of my old dance friends, and we kept knocking over the champagne, and the guy picked up the bottle and he goes, You're done. And we were not even drinking.

Just because she keeps knocking things over.

But I feel like you guys are so connected. You'd be like, Stas, get me back in.

She'd be like, Security is coming.

Tell me where was Stas. It's so good.

It's so good. Okay, which one? Oh, my God, this is a sad one. Which sister is more likely to get cheated on?

We all know the answer to this.

I would never let that. I would literally go to the- I would cheat before they could cheat with me. Yeah, absolutely. If I If I found out they were with someone, I'd be like, who the fuck is being cheated on?

I'm honestly the face of being cheated on. You're over it. Yeah.

You're done. You're not getting cheated on yet.

Also the glow up it gave me.

Yeah, you're going to be fine.

I stand by it.

You're standing. Okay, which sister is more likely to cheat in a relationship? Do not say that.

I honestly don't think either of us would.

Loyal, lovely girls. Just so, so lovely. Okay, no one's cheating here. We're just getting cheated on over here. Fuck us. Yeah, come on. Okay, which sister is more likely to slide in and DM a celebrity?

I don't think both. No, I've never DMed anyone. You want to open your phone? I literally have it.

She's like, Oh, really? You've never DMed anyone.

No, I've never gone out of my way to DM someone that I don't like.

Whatever. I think it's funny sometimes. I haven't in a while.

Sydney does it all the time, takes a screenshot, unsends.

I do that to make her laugh. I'll DM someone funny and then unsend it.

Okay, which sister is more likely to be in an open relationship? None.

I think I'm too... I've literally had gone jealous. I've gone through moments where I'm like, Oh, I could totally. I was constantly told that I was the best. The one. You're the best.

You're the best. You're the best. So if she's not shit, sure.

But I honestly, I don't think that it'd be fair to be other girls or whatever. Yeah.

You don't have to give us a speech. You're like, the reason I'm fair- It's not fair to be the other girls. I'm going to be the shit.

I'm the best. I'm down for friends with benefits where it's like, okay, I know that you're hooking up other people.

But if we're dating, dating, I make you my boyfriend. I agree. Also because if I make someone my boyfriend, I don't want to be dating other people. That's not my intention. We're on this view page. So why would we ever do that?

I want to know, both of you. Cindy, you can go first. What is the toxic that you attract? And you're like, Fuck, I hate it that I'm attracted it. We all like a toxic. And then how are you toxic in a relationship?

I think the toxic I'm attracted to, because this could also be someone who's non-toxic, but it mainly is, is big personalities, people who are very much their own life, their own ways, big personalities. I could get wrapped up in their life easily in a bad way. Interesting. But it's exciting and fun to do, but it's obviously bad because I'm separated from my own life, so that.

Got it.

I I don't know how I'm toxic in relationships. Maybe because I give too much of myself. Toxic and a bad way for myself.

Oh, my God. You're like an angel. You're like, I am not. Because I'm like, I already done this jealous over here. I'm like, Just wait to get to me. But I hear what you're saying. You're like, Oh, okay. She's like, Let me go. But I get what you're saying. You just give yourself too much. You lose yourself.

Yeah.

Okay, we're not letting that happen. But I'm not doing it anymore.

No. So don't get any ideas.

Sydney is actually the best, most thoughtful girlfriend ever. I love shopping. I'm really good at shopping. I'll give you the best, most thoughtful gift. But words, Sydney will write you a book and make it so sweet.

No, it's cute. I think we should normalize cute-ship for relationships. Like, Oh, you're a sin. Shut the fuck up.

I'm in love.

Yeah, please. Okay?

I'm in love.

Shut up. Please, we're in love. Right. Okay, what toxic are you attracting, Devon? And how are you toxic? I know we heard about I'm not a fake account, but...

I think the toxic that I'm attracted to is someone who's good with their words or is witty. Yeah. I think that people like that just know how to get what they want. I think that maybe I know how to get what I want. You do it right back.

I get that. No, that's a scary combo where you're both-Match the energy.

So if you are giving me something, then I'm going to give it back, but slightly more to the point of we're going to drive each other absolutely insane.

Lastly, who has A crazy fucking dating story, whether it was a one night stand, whether it was a bad hookup gone wrong, bad sex.

I have a really... It should be a bad date, but it ended up being a good date. Share it.

We're here for it. We love story time.

I was in New York, and it was the day after Valentine's Day. We had gone on a couple of dates before, but it was only whenever I was visiting. And he had just gone into town, and he was like, Okay, I'll pick you up, and we'll go out to dinner. And then he texted me before, and he's like, Would you want to see a movie? And I was like, No, I'm fucking hungry. I want to eat. And so he's like, I said, I'm pretty hungry. And he was like, Okay, well, I'm not going to get there for an hour. And it was eight o'clock at this point. And Sydney was in a room under me at our hotel. So I kept going through the staff stairs, and I went into a room, and I was like, She's not going to be here for another hour. She's very fucking serious. I'm like, I'm so hungry. She sits on my bed. I was in such a pissy mood. And so then I stopped answering him. Then he called me, and he was like, I'm sorry. I'm running even later than I thought. I don't think I'm going to get there till 9:30.

Red flags. I was like, Do you just want to go see a movie? I was like, I'm so hungry. I was like, I don't understand. I I'm hungry. Why? I don't want to see your movie. So we were already arguing. And then I ended up hanging up, and he's like, What are you going to do? And I was like, Well, I'm going to eat. If you don't want to come out here, and I thought we were going to go to dinner. I've been waiting to eat. Then I'm going to go eat. And he's like, Where are you going? Whatever. He gave me a recommendation of a good place to go. And so I go there. And he's calling me and I was like, Declined, declined, declined. Like, whatever. And he's like, Okay, well, I'm at the restaurant that we were going to meet at. I was like, Okay, well, I'm not. And he was like, Do you want me to pick you up? I was like, Obviously, it's February in New York. I'm not fucking walking. Granted, it was one block away. Get in a car, bitch. I was like- It takes longer to drive.

I was like, You know where I am. And so then he obviously pulled around, knew exactly where I was, came in, got me in the car, and he's like, I can't believe you're just made me drive a block. I was like, I can't believe you were an hour and a half late to this date. And so we ended up going on this date, and I was just like, zero fucks at this point. He parks, we walk in, we sit, we start eating, and we're just like, roasting each other, going on and on. Having so much fun. The bill comes. He's like, No, no. Forgot his wallet.

And I was like, he's the one I called the new driver.

Are you fucking serious? And he starts dying laughing. And I just kept being like, I'm so excited to see how you make this up for me because I'm like, I'm not going to let this go. So I pay for dinner. And then he's like, Okay, well, let me... I'll drive you home. Back to your one block away. Thank you. And I'm sitting here, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm such a princess. We go outside. His car is towed.

No, no, no, no, no, gone, gone.

The car is gone. And we just started looking We were dying laughing. And then...

Did you give him a kiss and go home? Did you kiss him?

We slept together. What do you mean?

We slept over. Dev is like, I fucked him. What do you mean? What are you talking about? We fully fucked. I gave him the best sex of his life, and I went and got his car, and I paid for the travel.

In the morning, I bought a car. And I got his car back.

When a man does that, he's like, Oh, go fuck yourself.

Do the fact. And I fucked him. She's like, then I fucked. I was like, Okay, this is what dating is. That's actually such a good story.

You're right. The ups and downs, the amount of times I can look back in my 20s, even my teens, of the time that you're trying to play it off cool, but you're waiting, and you're waiting, and you're moving. But you're waiting and you're waiting.

It was honestly, we had such a fun time. And in the morning, he bought me a huge bouquet of flowers. It was beautiful. And then he dropped me off, and then he met my sister.

That's when I saw the Uber.

She roasted him.

And that's when you said, I thought you were the Uber driver. Yes, I deserved. Wait, why? What car did you drive?

It looks like the black Lincoln town car.

It looks like an Uber car. Can I get in next? You know, since we kept going, why is it?

I was waving at her out of the front seat.

I was like, why is she in the front seat of the Uber? Why is she in the front seat of the Uber?

Dude, I love it. I also love how you It's gross, the guys that Kevin is with because it puts them in their fucking place.

They deserve it. I don't think I've ever dated a not great guy. I don't really have any bad things to say about anyone that I've...

Do you agree with that statement?

I don't think they're bad guys at all. They're just a little cringy sometimes.

And you pointed out. Yes.

She loves to point it out.

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