All right, guys, welcome back. As promised, I told you that I had a very long discussion with Rabbi Barclay that went much more viral than I had anticipated. Strangely, I do like the guy. I think he's a little kookey, but I think he's honestly kookey. He lies a bit, but I don't know. I guess he's at the age where I just go, Oh, well, he's just a crazy old man. But anyways, I did previously have Ami Kozak on, and I think that he was just a way more sensible voice on pro-Israel issues. I know that because he saw these clips going and saw people pulling it out and pretending that rabbi Barclay was the voice for pro-Israel, of course, he's going to take offense to that because who wouldn't when you feel like this person doesn't actually represent your beliefs? And so I wanted to give Ami a platform to respond to that and to say and ask anything that he wanted to. So welcome back, Ami.

Thank you, Candice. Well, he's not here to defend himself, so I'm just going to speak to a couple of issues I thought weren't covered. And just I think, as you believe, conversation and dialog is the best. I maintain that that's the best way forward when these problems arise. The last conversation we had was called Am I Antisemitic? And since then, you're definitely anti a few Semites. Just a few.

A few Semites? Which ones? I'm just kidding.

But no, what I'll say is in all seriousness, I think where I'm identifying the problem as you're coming up and clashing with the Jewish community broadly, let's say, is that there is a difference between what's going on in internally with you and what you feel in your own heart and mind. And I am not comfortable telling anybody that they are something inside internally that they claim not to be. I don't think that's appropriate. I think someone knows who they are and what they are and what they feel. So when people label you an anti-Semite, you are this, naturally, your defenses go up because you know inside what you are, what you feel, that you have relationships with Jews, that you've had enriching relationships with Jews and Jewish people, and have no hate in your heart when it comes to this. But the distinction I'm going to make is between what you feel internally and what goes on externally. And my concern as to what you've been doing, and I think for a lot of Jewish people, but I'll speak for myself here, is that externally, the rhetoric, the types of things you've been engaged in on Twitter, the types of language you're using, this conspiratorial, suggestive nature of talking about issues, we can get into the specifics of that, saying things like, What's really going on This is what they want.

There's Jewish gangs going on, and taking the actions of particular Jews that you've had bad interactions with, or nefarious Jews in history, and extrapolating off of that and generalizing off of that is emboldening anti Semitism broadly and adding to a climate that's very disconcerting for Jews and for me, and for me too, to see that. And in a world, post October seventh, when we've seen mobs of people on the street supporting it, and I know that's not you, and I know that's not David we had a discussion with, but there are people who do support it proudly. And to see rises in anti-Semitic incidences, have there been mistakes in the past where we called that anti-Semitism, where it wasn't there? Yes. But when we're seeing it now for you to engage in this rhetoric repeatedly in a pattern going on here, whatever is going on internally with you saying you're not anti-Semitic and you don't have hostility towards Jews. I believe you. But to call out what's been going on externally and what you've been engaged in, to me, is not me trying to cancel you or control you or doing any of those things.

It's engaging with you and making you aware of such things. And In our last conversation, there was a point you made that I wanted to address. We didn't get to it. But the idea of Jews are doing well, this perception that Jews are just doing well and we're comfortable. Now, if you took a snapshot in history right now, I will not disagree that there's a lot of prominent Jews, and we've made a lot of impact, and made a lot of positive contributions, and are represented in a lot of ways. We're proud of that. And the reasons for that are very clear. Because in terms of culture and what we value, there are things that you've advocated for. During BLM and during Blegzit, two parent families and education and scholarship and commitment to those things, that's been very positive for our community. And so I wonder why there's not more admiration for that as much as it seems like there's suspicion for that. And I'll just close by saying in this opening part that for us to engage with you on this issue and to call your attention to it is just to make you aware that even though you perceive as doing well in this current moment, the history, it reveals to me a certain lack of awareness and ignorance to the history of repeated cyclical anti-Semitism that Jewish people and the Jewish community has faced for decades, 100 years, millennia throughout history in every society we've ever been in.

And to not be aware of that or sensitive to that, to make you aware that you are contributing to this climate, I think is important, and it's important to engage on that. I'm curious to hear if that's something that concerns you.

Yeah. No, it doesn't concern me at all, really, because I think it's just overblown. I don't know why anybody would be offended to say that Jews are doing well in America. They are doing well in America. I don't say that as a way to slack off and say, Oh, I guess we should point the finger and say that we should get everything. It's just a fact. Asians are also doing well. I mean, I've said that plenty of times.

What about the conspiratorial language?

I'm going to get to that. That's the first thing. I'm not going to apologize for saying something that's abundantly true, and it's literally abundantly true. You could go and look at statistics that Jewish Americans are living really well, so I'm not going to pretend that they're not. To the second point about you saying that I'm engaging in conspiracy, even something as simple as saying, when you say they, when did Jewish people suddenly get the right to the word they? When did now they always means Jewish people? To me, that is such a leftist. Now we are taking this word and it implies that every time you use this English word that you've been using since you could speak English, this automatically means that you're talking about Jewish people, and you need to be extra sensitive every time you type out this word because of October seventh. I just can't subject myself to that. If there's a specific allegation allegation regarding a conspiracy that you think that I perpetuated, I would like to answer for it, but I would like a specific allegation and not just like, you say they sometimes because they is a word and I have a right to use it.

Yeah, fair enough. I'm talking about in specifically When you're talking about a Jewish person that you feel that you've clashed with and then jump from that to say, what's really going on here? And not focusing on the actions of individual people, but to say, I'm just going to say it. There's Jewish gangs out there, or I'm just going to say it. This pattern of focusing on... Not a lot of people know that in Nazi Germany, when they were burning books, the first book they'd burn was a Jewish pedophile. Was that not something you talked about on the show? That was. So I'm just saying In an isolated context of if we're having an academic discussion about certain things in history, I can understand wanting to be able to cover everything. But I'll give an example. Remember the incident you had with Ted Lou, where he deliberately took you out of to make you look guilty of saying something you didn't say? And I thought that was despicable. It was so obvious what he was doing at the time. But I think sometimes what you're doing, perhaps inadvertently, is in resenting being taken out of context to make yourself look guilty, you take yourself out of context to make yourself look innocent.

Yeah, but I don't take myself out of context. I say an entire episode of what I want to say very plainly, and then I'm taking out of context because I think that after October seventh, a lot of people have grown hysterical, and they're looking for every time you talk about a Jewish person. Case in point, obviously, rather notoriously, when Andrew Klaven, and you just referenced it, talking about Magnus Herschfeld and his institute being burned to the ground, this Jewish pervert happens to be Jewish pervert. Out of context, meaning that you stripped that I mentioned for Christians in that exact same monolog. Four Christians. I was talking about psychology and the fact that it was created by a lot of perverts. I talked about four Christians before I got to Magnus Hirschfeld. How do you just completely strip that out and pretend that this was a monolog about Jewish people? Actually, what's really happening that you are defending Jewish people because every time you hear a Jewish name, you think that you somehow have a right to defend it. To the second point, and I'll tell you what really bothers me about this, when you say you're talking about Jewish gangs, Jewish gangs have always existed in America.

I don't know why this is suddenly something that we're going, you can't say that there could plausibly be a Jewish gang. Yeah. You know who else is always a Jewish? Black gangs. I talked about it regularly all throughout BLM. Talked about gangs. I talked about Black gang violence the entire time today on my show. I was talking about Lil R. T. And how he's going to end up in prison. But for some reason, Jewish people think that they're just in a special category where you're just not allowed to ever allege that they were in gangs, even though there's nonstop evidence in American history that Jewish gangs did exist. They had a ton of power. You can go back to Prohibition. You can go back to the Jewish gangs that were quite literally the Jewish Defense League that were putting bombs under people's cars. To say that you can't imply, and it wasn't even me who implied, by the way, I was actually going back historically and talking about what Michael Jackson was implying as I was reading Ditty Docs and saying that we keep hearing this allegation that's being made in Hollywood. To say that you don't have a right to even imply there's a Jewish gang.

It's just a nonsense. If I have a right to imply there are Black gangs a billionaire. I mean, he took away his Adidas deal. Listen, I'm not here to litigate whether or not Kanye deserved it. I'm here only to defend what I actually said and how taken and how it Extraordinarily blown up it was as if I had actually sent the tweet that he said. Yes, the rest of his tweet was, The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because Black people are actually Jews also. Pardon. gang, you're not in it. So who cares? There could be a Black gang on the south side of Chicago. I'm not going to be like, Well, be careful. Be careful when you're talking about should night and the things that he did in the... Be careful. I'm just like, yeah, there's definitely Jewish gangs. There's definitely Black gangs. There's Hispanic gangs. I don't need to be all sensitive about it because I'm not in them. That's it. I think if you guys employed that perspective of not having to defend the plausibility The context of a bad person, it would go a very long way. Just don't defend bad Jewish people because you're not them. It's not collective.But the context of what we're saying matters, too. I would say that, obviously, any Jewish individual who does a bad thing should be condemned. But if you were in a context of... If you were in the south, in the KKK south at one point, and started profiling Black individuals who were bad, but you continued to do it, and it's not like you're excusing their individual behavior, but you were surrounded in a way by a culture or something that used it as red meat, who do have nefarious intentions towards innocent African-Americans, to simply be mindful of that, that that is out there, and be sensitive to that, that your words could inadvertently be used to provide. And I'm not saying that you're doing that intentionally, and that's not what's in your heart, and that's not what your intentions are. But for us as a community that's experiencing it and seeing it, to be mindful of that is okay. I mean, not everything that can be said is necessarily relevant and should be said just because it could be something true. It's okay to be mindful of the communities around that are going through certain things. And I don't think it compromises your ability to freely express yourself or speak the truth as you see it.Us to engage with you and let you know that this stuff is out there and brewing, and there is a deep-rooted cyclical history of this, even though in a snapshot in this moment, there's certainly a lot of comfortable Jews doing okay. In the last episode, I was moved by the fact that you told me about, and you've spoken about your grandfather, who was an extremely influential figure in your life, right? My parents grew up on both sides, and they didn't have grandparents, and none of their friends in their community had grandparents. They were all dead. They were all gone. They were all wiped out. And one of the ways that that happened, if you look at it, historically in Germany, leading up to the Holocaust and trying to figure out what exactly happened was a lot of propaganda and rhetoric over time, as Jordan Peterson has said, Things get bad one small step at a time. And it's true that incrementally, with time, building suspicion, creating a sense that Jews are above this and this and this. There's some special class. It can feed into something really, really dangerous, really nasty, really incendiary that I know you don't intend to do, and I know you care a lot about the Jewish people in your life.So making you aware of those things is all I'm trying to do here.I think that's totally fair. I think if there's any chip on my shoulder, obviously, it's because you just watched me take on the entire Black community over George Floyd, and people were saying the same stuff. Don't talk about the fact that he was a drug dealer. Don't talk about the fact that he had all these arrests because there's all this history in Black America and all this stuff and police brutality. I'm like, Guys, the truth is the truth. It is my personality, and I hope that people acknowledge that, that, okay, actually, no, for seven years, she's been going out of her own community over BLM. This is not as, especially because it's Jewish people that she's doing this. I just don't like bad people are trying to... You would, of course, because you've been there, you're Jewish, you've got heritage there. It's just weird when people are trying to make me feel that their ancestral or their heritage is mine. It's just not. If you want to go down with St. Thomas- I have no attachment to St. Thomas. Then I'll be like, Hey, listen, look at this great island, these Caribbean accents. There's a great jerk chicken. Come on. It's doper. It's better. If we want to go tip for tat, food's better.But if St. Thomas got attacked and people were taken hostage, and I went time and time again criticizing the response that St. Thomas made and saying, Hey, it's ridiculous. I said, We shouldn't support them. We shouldn't give them any money. They should just do their own thing.I would be understanding because I would say, Listen, and this Because if St. Thomas with its own country. I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas. If it was its own country, I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas if it was its own country. Obviously, we're just a territory of the United States. It would be weird if you did it now because it is territory of the United States. But it might bother you if I kept crapping on it. Well, if you were talking about because I'm so consistent on sending no money overseas, I just think that about every country. And by the way, that's even, and this would be the hardest for me, the UK. My kids are half British, my husband is British. That's probably the best comparison. I would feel the most emotionally attached to a terrorist attack on UK soil. It would be very difficult for me to... But I would wear those biases. I would say to people, My husband is British. My kids are half British. Our family lives there, and that is the reason why you are correct.I started our conversation with Dave. I said, Let me put my biases on the table. But I would totally understand if people said, I don't want to send a single dollar to the UK. I would just have to respect that.But it's been more than about just foreign aid. It's not just foreign aid. If people started to say, Criticizing the UK when it's the one that's been attacked or criticizing UK's response to try to get UK citizens out of being in captivity and being kidnapped, it would make you a suspect of the people who continually only see it on that one side.Yeah, I guess if it was, like I said, the issue is very complicated. We just went over this for an hour and a half with Dave. It's a very complicated issue. Some people say, historically, it's wrong. People are like, let's just look at this as what happened on October seventh and response to it. I just say I'm American and I just am not that moved by what's happening in the Middle East, and I'd like to get people back to focus on American issues. I mean that of no offense to any person that feels offended by it. Fair enough. Anyways, I think that we've gone way over here, but I want to keep the conversation going with you. I, again, want to just commend you because I just think you're a really sensible, pro-residial voice. I think There are people that are radical, and they're so radical, per-residial, that they might as well be pro-Palestine. They actually might as well be pro-Hamas. They're so crazy in terms of what they're saying. It's not helpful. I think people like you and Dennis Prager are just always sensible, always open to a conversation, always willing to say it.You're like, I don't like what you're saying this, Candice. I'm like, well, here's why I'm saying it. Let's normalize this, guys. Let's just normalize having conversations, disagreeing, and moving on. That is really what I hope you get away from this, irrespective, I know in the comments, some people are going to kill me. Some people are absolutely going to kill Ami. They're going to be all sorts of weird comments. It is what it is, but I hope you at least are listening to these conversations and growing from them and realizing speech is not that scary, as long as we are not becoming hateful people who actually wish harm on other groups. Those people should be called out.Amen. We agree on that.Ami, thanks so much for all of your time.We'll be in touch.Appreciate it.Thank you.

a billionaire. I mean, he took away his Adidas deal. Listen, I'm not here to litigate whether or not Kanye deserved it. I'm here only to defend what I actually said and how taken and how it Extraordinarily blown up it was as if I had actually sent the tweet that he said. Yes, the rest of his tweet was, The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because Black people are actually Jews also. Pardon. gang, you're not in it. So who cares? There could be a Black gang on the south side of Chicago. I'm not going to be like, Well, be careful. Be careful when you're talking about should night and the things that he did in the... Be careful. I'm just like, yeah, there's definitely Jewish gangs. There's definitely Black gangs. There's Hispanic gangs. I don't need to be all sensitive about it because I'm not in them. That's it. I think if you guys employed that perspective of not having to defend the plausibility The context of a bad person, it would go a very long way. Just don't defend bad Jewish people because you're not them. It's not collective.But the context of what we're saying matters, too. I would say that, obviously, any Jewish individual who does a bad thing should be condemned. But if you were in a context of... If you were in the south, in the KKK south at one point, and started profiling Black individuals who were bad, but you continued to do it, and it's not like you're excusing their individual behavior, but you were surrounded in a way by a culture or something that used it as red meat, who do have nefarious intentions towards innocent African-Americans, to simply be mindful of that, that that is out there, and be sensitive to that, that your words could inadvertently be used to provide. And I'm not saying that you're doing that intentionally, and that's not what's in your heart, and that's not what your intentions are. But for us as a community that's experiencing it and seeing it, to be mindful of that is okay. I mean, not everything that can be said is necessarily relevant and should be said just because it could be something true. It's okay to be mindful of the communities around that are going through certain things. And I don't think it compromises your ability to freely express yourself or speak the truth as you see it.Us to engage with you and let you know that this stuff is out there and brewing, and there is a deep-rooted cyclical history of this, even though in a snapshot in this moment, there's certainly a lot of comfortable Jews doing okay. In the last episode, I was moved by the fact that you told me about, and you've spoken about your grandfather, who was an extremely influential figure in your life, right? My parents grew up on both sides, and they didn't have grandparents, and none of their friends in their community had grandparents. They were all dead. They were all gone. They were all wiped out. And one of the ways that that happened, if you look at it, historically in Germany, leading up to the Holocaust and trying to figure out what exactly happened was a lot of propaganda and rhetoric over time, as Jordan Peterson has said, Things get bad one small step at a time. And it's true that incrementally, with time, building suspicion, creating a sense that Jews are above this and this and this. There's some special class. It can feed into something really, really dangerous, really nasty, really incendiary that I know you don't intend to do, and I know you care a lot about the Jewish people in your life.So making you aware of those things is all I'm trying to do here.I think that's totally fair. I think if there's any chip on my shoulder, obviously, it's because you just watched me take on the entire Black community over George Floyd, and people were saying the same stuff. Don't talk about the fact that he was a drug dealer. Don't talk about the fact that he had all these arrests because there's all this history in Black America and all this stuff and police brutality. I'm like, Guys, the truth is the truth. It is my personality, and I hope that people acknowledge that, that, okay, actually, no, for seven years, she's been going out of her own community over BLM. This is not as, especially because it's Jewish people that she's doing this. I just don't like bad people are trying to... You would, of course, because you've been there, you're Jewish, you've got heritage there. It's just weird when people are trying to make me feel that their ancestral or their heritage is mine. It's just not. If you want to go down with St. Thomas- I have no attachment to St. Thomas. Then I'll be like, Hey, listen, look at this great island, these Caribbean accents. There's a great jerk chicken. Come on. It's doper. It's better. If we want to go tip for tat, food's better.But if St. Thomas got attacked and people were taken hostage, and I went time and time again criticizing the response that St. Thomas made and saying, Hey, it's ridiculous. I said, We shouldn't support them. We shouldn't give them any money. They should just do their own thing.I would be understanding because I would say, Listen, and this Because if St. Thomas with its own country. I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas. If it was its own country, I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas if it was its own country. Obviously, we're just a territory of the United States. It would be weird if you did it now because it is territory of the United States. But it might bother you if I kept crapping on it. Well, if you were talking about because I'm so consistent on sending no money overseas, I just think that about every country. And by the way, that's even, and this would be the hardest for me, the UK. My kids are half British, my husband is British. That's probably the best comparison. I would feel the most emotionally attached to a terrorist attack on UK soil. It would be very difficult for me to... But I would wear those biases. I would say to people, My husband is British. My kids are half British. Our family lives there, and that is the reason why you are correct.I started our conversation with Dave. I said, Let me put my biases on the table. But I would totally understand if people said, I don't want to send a single dollar to the UK. I would just have to respect that.But it's been more than about just foreign aid. It's not just foreign aid. If people started to say, Criticizing the UK when it's the one that's been attacked or criticizing UK's response to try to get UK citizens out of being in captivity and being kidnapped, it would make you a suspect of the people who continually only see it on that one side.Yeah, I guess if it was, like I said, the issue is very complicated. We just went over this for an hour and a half with Dave. It's a very complicated issue. Some people say, historically, it's wrong. People are like, let's just look at this as what happened on October seventh and response to it. I just say I'm American and I just am not that moved by what's happening in the Middle East, and I'd like to get people back to focus on American issues. I mean that of no offense to any person that feels offended by it. Fair enough. Anyways, I think that we've gone way over here, but I want to keep the conversation going with you. I, again, want to just commend you because I just think you're a really sensible, pro-residial voice. I think There are people that are radical, and they're so radical, per-residial, that they might as well be pro-Palestine. They actually might as well be pro-Hamas. They're so crazy in terms of what they're saying. It's not helpful. I think people like you and Dennis Prager are just always sensible, always open to a conversation, always willing to say it.You're like, I don't like what you're saying this, Candice. I'm like, well, here's why I'm saying it. Let's normalize this, guys. Let's just normalize having conversations, disagreeing, and moving on. That is really what I hope you get away from this, irrespective, I know in the comments, some people are going to kill me. Some people are absolutely going to kill Ami. They're going to be all sorts of weird comments. It is what it is, but I hope you at least are listening to these conversations and growing from them and realizing speech is not that scary, as long as we are not becoming hateful people who actually wish harm on other groups. Those people should be called out.Amen. We agree on that.Ami, thanks so much for all of your time.We'll be in touch.Appreciate it.Thank you.

gang, you're not in it. So who cares? There could be a Black gang on the south side of Chicago. I'm not going to be like, Well, be careful. Be careful when you're talking about should night and the things that he did in the... Be careful. I'm just like, yeah, there's definitely Jewish gangs. There's definitely Black gangs. There's Hispanic gangs. I don't need to be all sensitive about it because I'm not in them. That's it. I think if you guys employed that perspective of not having to defend the plausibility The context of a bad person, it would go a very long way. Just don't defend bad Jewish people because you're not them. It's not collective.

But the context of what we're saying matters, too. I would say that, obviously, any Jewish individual who does a bad thing should be condemned. But if you were in a context of... If you were in the south, in the KKK south at one point, and started profiling Black individuals who were bad, but you continued to do it, and it's not like you're excusing their individual behavior, but you were surrounded in a way by a culture or something that used it as red meat, who do have nefarious intentions towards innocent African-Americans, to simply be mindful of that, that that is out there, and be sensitive to that, that your words could inadvertently be used to provide. And I'm not saying that you're doing that intentionally, and that's not what's in your heart, and that's not what your intentions are. But for us as a community that's experiencing it and seeing it, to be mindful of that is okay. I mean, not everything that can be said is necessarily relevant and should be said just because it could be something true. It's okay to be mindful of the communities around that are going through certain things. And I don't think it compromises your ability to freely express yourself or speak the truth as you see it.

Us to engage with you and let you know that this stuff is out there and brewing, and there is a deep-rooted cyclical history of this, even though in a snapshot in this moment, there's certainly a lot of comfortable Jews doing okay. In the last episode, I was moved by the fact that you told me about, and you've spoken about your grandfather, who was an extremely influential figure in your life, right? My parents grew up on both sides, and they didn't have grandparents, and none of their friends in their community had grandparents. They were all dead. They were all gone. They were all wiped out. And one of the ways that that happened, if you look at it, historically in Germany, leading up to the Holocaust and trying to figure out what exactly happened was a lot of propaganda and rhetoric over time, as Jordan Peterson has said, Things get bad one small step at a time. And it's true that incrementally, with time, building suspicion, creating a sense that Jews are above this and this and this. There's some special class. It can feed into something really, really dangerous, really nasty, really incendiary that I know you don't intend to do, and I know you care a lot about the Jewish people in your life.

So making you aware of those things is all I'm trying to do here.

I think that's totally fair. I think if there's any chip on my shoulder, obviously, it's because you just watched me take on the entire Black community over George Floyd, and people were saying the same stuff. Don't talk about the fact that he was a drug dealer. Don't talk about the fact that he had all these arrests because there's all this history in Black America and all this stuff and police brutality. I'm like, Guys, the truth is the truth. It is my personality, and I hope that people acknowledge that, that, okay, actually, no, for seven years, she's been going out of her own community over BLM. This is not as, especially because it's Jewish people that she's doing this. I just don't like bad people are trying to... You would, of course, because you've been there, you're Jewish, you've got heritage there. It's just weird when people are trying to make me feel that their ancestral or their heritage is mine. It's just not. If you want to go down with St. Thomas- I have no attachment to St. Thomas. Then I'll be like, Hey, listen, look at this great island, these Caribbean accents. There's a great jerk chicken. Come on. It's doper. It's better. If we want to go tip for tat, food's better.But if St. Thomas got attacked and people were taken hostage, and I went time and time again criticizing the response that St. Thomas made and saying, Hey, it's ridiculous. I said, We shouldn't support them. We shouldn't give them any money. They should just do their own thing.I would be understanding because I would say, Listen, and this Because if St. Thomas with its own country. I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas. If it was its own country, I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas if it was its own country. Obviously, we're just a territory of the United States. It would be weird if you did it now because it is territory of the United States. But it might bother you if I kept crapping on it. Well, if you were talking about because I'm so consistent on sending no money overseas, I just think that about every country. And by the way, that's even, and this would be the hardest for me, the UK. My kids are half British, my husband is British. That's probably the best comparison. I would feel the most emotionally attached to a terrorist attack on UK soil. It would be very difficult for me to... But I would wear those biases. I would say to people, My husband is British. My kids are half British. Our family lives there, and that is the reason why you are correct.I started our conversation with Dave. I said, Let me put my biases on the table. But I would totally understand if people said, I don't want to send a single dollar to the UK. I would just have to respect that.But it's been more than about just foreign aid. It's not just foreign aid. If people started to say, Criticizing the UK when it's the one that's been attacked or criticizing UK's response to try to get UK citizens out of being in captivity and being kidnapped, it would make you a suspect of the people who continually only see it on that one side.Yeah, I guess if it was, like I said, the issue is very complicated. We just went over this for an hour and a half with Dave. It's a very complicated issue. Some people say, historically, it's wrong. People are like, let's just look at this as what happened on October seventh and response to it. I just say I'm American and I just am not that moved by what's happening in the Middle East, and I'd like to get people back to focus on American issues. I mean that of no offense to any person that feels offended by it. Fair enough. Anyways, I think that we've gone way over here, but I want to keep the conversation going with you. I, again, want to just commend you because I just think you're a really sensible, pro-residial voice. I think There are people that are radical, and they're so radical, per-residial, that they might as well be pro-Palestine. They actually might as well be pro-Hamas. They're so crazy in terms of what they're saying. It's not helpful. I think people like you and Dennis Prager are just always sensible, always open to a conversation, always willing to say it.You're like, I don't like what you're saying this, Candice. I'm like, well, here's why I'm saying it. Let's normalize this, guys. Let's just normalize having conversations, disagreeing, and moving on. That is really what I hope you get away from this, irrespective, I know in the comments, some people are going to kill me. Some people are absolutely going to kill Ami. They're going to be all sorts of weird comments. It is what it is, but I hope you at least are listening to these conversations and growing from them and realizing speech is not that scary, as long as we are not becoming hateful people who actually wish harm on other groups. Those people should be called out.Amen. We agree on that.Ami, thanks so much for all of your time.We'll be in touch.Appreciate it.Thank you.

people are trying to... You would, of course, because you've been there, you're Jewish, you've got heritage there. It's just weird when people are trying to make me feel that their ancestral or their heritage is mine. It's just not. If you want to go down with St. Thomas- I have no attachment to St. Thomas. Then I'll be like, Hey, listen, look at this great island, these Caribbean accents. There's a great jerk chicken. Come on. It's doper. It's better. If we want to go tip for tat, food's better.

But if St. Thomas got attacked and people were taken hostage, and I went time and time again criticizing the response that St. Thomas made and saying, Hey, it's ridiculous. I said, We shouldn't support them. We shouldn't give them any money. They should just do their own thing.

I would be understanding because I would say, Listen, and this Because if St. Thomas with its own country. I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas. If it was its own country, I would be understanding because I would recognize that this is America and this is St. Thomas if it was its own country. Obviously, we're just a territory of the United States. It would be weird if you did it now because it is territory of the United States. But it might bother you if I kept crapping on it. Well, if you were talking about because I'm so consistent on sending no money overseas, I just think that about every country. And by the way, that's even, and this would be the hardest for me, the UK. My kids are half British, my husband is British. That's probably the best comparison. I would feel the most emotionally attached to a terrorist attack on UK soil. It would be very difficult for me to... But I would wear those biases. I would say to people, My husband is British. My kids are half British. Our family lives there, and that is the reason why you are correct.

I started our conversation with Dave. I said, Let me put my biases on the table. But I would totally understand if people said, I don't want to send a single dollar to the UK. I would just have to respect that.

But it's been more than about just foreign aid. It's not just foreign aid. If people started to say, Criticizing the UK when it's the one that's been attacked or criticizing UK's response to try to get UK citizens out of being in captivity and being kidnapped, it would make you a suspect of the people who continually only see it on that one side.

Yeah, I guess if it was, like I said, the issue is very complicated. We just went over this for an hour and a half with Dave. It's a very complicated issue. Some people say, historically, it's wrong. People are like, let's just look at this as what happened on October seventh and response to it. I just say I'm American and I just am not that moved by what's happening in the Middle East, and I'd like to get people back to focus on American issues. I mean that of no offense to any person that feels offended by it. Fair enough. Anyways, I think that we've gone way over here, but I want to keep the conversation going with you. I, again, want to just commend you because I just think you're a really sensible, pro-residial voice. I think There are people that are radical, and they're so radical, per-residial, that they might as well be pro-Palestine. They actually might as well be pro-Hamas. They're so crazy in terms of what they're saying. It's not helpful. I think people like you and Dennis Prager are just always sensible, always open to a conversation, always willing to say it.

You're like, I don't like what you're saying this, Candice. I'm like, well, here's why I'm saying it. Let's normalize this, guys. Let's just normalize having conversations, disagreeing, and moving on. That is really what I hope you get away from this, irrespective, I know in the comments, some people are going to kill me. Some people are absolutely going to kill Ami. They're going to be all sorts of weird comments. It is what it is, but I hope you at least are listening to these conversations and growing from them and realizing speech is not that scary, as long as we are not becoming hateful people who actually wish harm on other groups. Those people should be called out.

Amen. We agree on that.

Ami, thanks so much for all of your time.

We'll be in touch.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.