How hard is it to get an honest, vulnerable conversation going in the black community about mental health and mental illness?

If it's a private conversation, it's not hard at all. Brothers and sisters is always spilling their hearts out to each other. Publicly, it might be a little bit tougher just simply because when we wake up in the morning, we got to worry about just surviving as human beings in this country. We had a term called hardcore, where you had to walk around, keep your chest out, keep your chin up. You couldn't portray any type of vulnerabilities, any type of weakness, because if you did, you might be fooled out here.