Okay, so you and the Senator can read the former President's promises yourself. He promised to prosecute his perceived enemies in plain English, like this post that he made just hours ago on Truth Social. It's pretty short. Indite the Unselect J6 Committee. And joining me now, Dr. Phil, whose interview with the former President just aird. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. You're clearly sympathetic to Trump, but you believe believe that he should drop this talk of revenge. Did he commit to not pursuing that if he was elected President?

Well, first off, I'm sympathetic to what Trump has gone through in this particular trial because I think it was not a proper due process for him. I would say the same thing if it was Biden or anyone else in that process. So I want to be clear on that.

Would you mind telling us why you think he didn't get due process? I mean, the proceedings we had reporters in there. I was there for a lot of it. There was a judge and he adjudicated a lot of these questions. Why do you think he wasn't given a fair process?

Well, I think it's a number of things. I think they're from a jury standpoint, and again, let me be clear, I'm not a lawyer. I look at it in terms of what the jury was given to solve this puzzle. And I think they heard some things that were very prejudicial that had nothing to do with solving the problem of the case at hand. I think there are some things that are considered black letter law or Horn Book law that's just That's certainly not something that is controversial at all that was violated. I think you don't have someone that is considered to be an accomplice in a crime that has played out or made a non-prosecution agreement and allow that information into the jury's awareness because it's very prejudicial and it's not really probative of anything that they're asked to be problem solving or considered.

Who are you referring to there?

Michael Cohen.

Well, Dr. Phil, I don't want to get too deep into the law here, but it is not uncommon at all for people who are accomplices to crimes, people who have taken plea deals, non-prosecutor. That is not uncommon at all for those people to then testify in subsequent trials for their alleged co-conspirators. That's how a lot of these prosecutions work.

Well, really, give me examples of where that has been considered appropriate.

I mean, look, prosecutors are prosecuting organized crime all the time. And in a lot of those cases, they are relying on co-conspirators to put people who are at the higher levels of the organization behind bars. I don't understand how you can say that because someone signed a not or was not prosecuted, signed a non-prosecution agreement, that information or their testimony cannot be presented before the jury if they were a part of the alleged scheme.

Well, you'll have to give me an example to respond to because I just simply don't agree with that. I think it's not typical for juries to do this. I've spent most of my career in that industry.

It happens in mob cases all time. I don't understand. Do me an example. Look, Dr. Phil, I mean, I don't understand why you would think that Michael Cohen, who is a key person in a lot of the narrative here, should not have been allowed to testify in this case. Is that what you're saying?

No, that's not what I'm saying. I said what I said. I think the fact that he made an agreement to say that he is guilty of the crime that the defendant is being tried for prejudices the jury that, Hey, here's someone that's supposedly an accomplice that has said, I'm guilty of this. That prejudices a jury about the person that's currently on trial for the same crime.

I have some quibbles with what you're describing as the same crime. Michael Cohen was not charged with falsifying business records. He actually was not prosecuted for that crime. But I do want to move on because on this issue of what Trump is going to do if he is elected, did you get any clarity from him about whether he would try to pursue the people perhaps who pursued him, DAs or his political enemies?

Well, certainly that's a big issue. And I lean very strongly into the position of saying, look, this is not going to help this country. If you get into a position of power and your agenda is one of revenge, retribution, saying, okay, you came after me, so now I'm going to come after you. America picks up the tab for that. That's not anything that's good to do. That's going to take up-time. That's just playing tit for tat. So you go after them because they came after you. Then they come after you because they go after them. In the meantime, what about America? What about the business of America? What about the issues of education? What about the issues of the border? What What about the issues of inflation? What about the issues of health care? What about all the things that the people really care about? They're not interested in you playing got you with the people that you think got you. We're not interested in that. Nobody's interested in that.

And calling on you. And how did you respond to that? That's your perspective. What do you sense is his inclination? Because just today, he said, for example, that he would indict the January sixth committee the members, presumptively the members of Congress who were on that committee investigating what happened on January sixth. Are you more or less convinced after sitting down with him that he actually would follow through on those kinds of pledges?

Well, I actually don't think he will. I think this is a situation that it's a process. This is something that I think he's had in his mind that there's only one way to go, and that's to get even. I think I've really made some headway with him that that is not the way to go. I think it's a process. I think he'll turn this over and over in his mind, and I don't think he will do that. And to the extent that I have any opportunity to lean into this with him, I am going to relentlessly try and get him to not do that and to get others to not do Look, we need to stop this. This is a time where America needs to come together, not be playing got you and going on some revenge tour. We don't need that. We don't have time for that. It's not good for America. We need to unify, not be going after people that we think came after us, whether we think they did so fairly or otherwise. Yeah, it sounds like- We don't need that. The last thing we need is for Trump to be going after people that he thinks have treated him unfairly.

Yeah. I mean, it sounds like you are personally taking it upon yourself to talk through this with him, but for the voters who are evaluating this very issue. Donald Trump is explicitly saying, I'm going to prosecute my predecessor, Joe Biden, if I'm elected. He's explicitly saying he wants to go after his political enemies. He will go after the members of Congress who were doing their jobs investigating what happened on January sixth. Don't voters need to weigh that, especially since the argument that Trump is making with no evidence is that Biden is going after him?

Well, I think they absolutely have to weigh that. And if they think that Donald Trump or any other candidate is going to do that, and they think that is not what I'm putting somebody in office for, then they absolutely shouldn't vote for them. I don't think that's what we're putting people in office to do. That's running their agenda instead of America's agenda. And we need people to run America's agenda. Look, we've got serious problems, and it takes serious people to deal to deal with those problems. I'm not a political animal. It doesn't matter to me whether somebody is a Democrat or Republican. I care less, don't know enough about politics to talk about it intelligently. But I can tell you this, from a cultural standpoint, we need people working on the problems that are impacting the quality of life in America, impacting the quality of medical care, impacting the quality of education, impacting the quality of people's ability to feed and take care of their families. And that doesn't leave room to be playing got you and retribution and revenge. That's not what we need. We need people to get in there and do their jobs, and if not, they shouldn't have the privilege.

That's not a legacy, it's a privilege. And we shouldn't be putting people in office that want to play those kinds of.