Cnn's Kristen Holmes, CNN's Steven Collison, Tyler Foggett with The New Yorker, and Punch Bull's Anna Palmer. Good morning to you guys. Thanks for joining me this Father's Day morning. Kristen, you cover the Trump campaign. You travel all around with Trump. He talked to his advisors. Walk us through this decision. It makes sense for him to reach out to Blackfooters. No question about that, because obviously Biden has been struggling to build the coalition that he took them back to the White House in 2020, picked back off that coalition. That makes sense. But then talk to this really far-right group, Turning Point USA. What does that give him? What is behind this campaign's thinking here?

Turning Point USA is actually going to be very critical to Donald Trump's campaign. They are a huge part of the ground game. They are planning on spending $108 million to essentially be the boots on the ground in three of the critical states, Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin. They are putting people into these communities that they believe believe are red districts that did not show up to vote in either 2022 or 2020. They have done data research to try and bring out low propensity voters, and they're essentially making people the mayor of these communities so that they show up in the polls. Actually, Donald Trump is getting $ 108 million for that appearance and the one just a week ago because they don't have that same infrastructure on the ground. Now, I do want to say one thing about black voters because I think it's really critical. We keep talking about Donald Trump taking away black voters. There is not going to be, at least no indication, there's going to be some swell of black voters for Donald Trump. What they do feel like they have that they think that President Biden doesn't have right now is that Donald Trump's base is fully aligned with Donald Trump.

They right now feel like they have the opportunity to go into what is a traditionally democratic block, black voters, Latino voters, and try and siphon away those voters because they don't feel like right now, they're worried about getting his base back, whereas they feel like President Biden is is worried about courting his own base.

But then when he goes, he talks to the base, and he says things like, The election was stolen. It was rigged. Those are the things that some Republican voters who didn't vote for him last time, they may be open to voting for him this time or swing voters. They hear that and they say, Well, that's why he didn't vote for him.

That's right. That is exactly the thing that some of these Nikki Haley voters, for example, the reason they didn't vote for him in the primary is because they were alienated by the extreme nature of Trump's coalition. To your point about black voters, this is all about margins. If it's going to be a very close election in four or five states that were decided, if Trump can eat away a little bit at Biden's traditional democratic margins among black voters in places like Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, that can make a big difference. So although no one, I think, expects the turnout for Trump among minority voters to be where the polls say it is right now, Biden got 92%, I think, last time. If Trump can get 4 or 5% a bit more, that makes a big difference. But I think there's a long history of Republican campaigns and presidential elections over the last 20 years, discounting the extent to which minority voters do in the end end up showing up for Democratic President.

Before you jump in, just to look at the... To your point, the exit polls from 2020 versus now. Fox News and Quinnipiac and CBS News, just recent polling about how Biden versus Trump on black voters down. Biden is looking at 87% among voters, black voters in the 2020 exit polls, about 15 points in the Fox News, Quinnipiac, and 6 points in the CBS News Poll. If you're Joe Biden, you obviously need to do better, but how much concern is there in the Biden campaign about that?

What's interesting is that while we've seen Trump make gains with non-white, non- College-educated voters, we've also seen Biden make gains with white College-educated voters. And so part of what I've been following is just whether the inroads they've been making with these different cohorts will end up canceling each other out.

That's an interesting point. And while he was there, Trump, in Detroit last night, talking to black voters, he tried to cast Biden, as the New York Times put in their headline this morning, as anti-black. And then when he went on to talk about crime in black neighborhoods as something is the reason why they should not vote for Biden. This is That's how Trump pitched it to voters yesterday.

The crime is most rampant right here and in African-American communities. Biden wrote the devastating 1994 crime bill. What? Talking about super predators. That was Biden. He walks around now talking about the black vote. He's the king of the Super Predators. And he wrote the 1994 crime bill that you talk about so much.

Biden team responding to this, saying that Trump thinks that he has, quote, many black friends excuses in an entire lifetime of what they say is denigrating and disrespecting black Americans. They wanted to say black voters know better. It's interesting, Trump's line against Biden, trying to revive Biden's role in the 1994 crime law.

Is that effective? He's also trying to use the fact that he was a convicted, now he's been convicted as something that he can try to woo Black voters. To me, the big thing, though, is it's not that to the earlier point that all of a sudden, Trump's going to do so well with Black voters, but it means that Biden has to pay attention to them even more. When you look at where he's going, Michigan, that is going to be ground zero for whether or not Donald Trump or Joe Biden as President. This is just one of those areas where he's going to have to defend himself. The numbers you put up there are something that the Biden campaign has to take seriously.

Yeah. Taylor, you were mentioning about the Perhaps winning back voters in other areas, one of which could be seniors. That's one thing that the Biden campaign has been focusing on increasingly this past week. How did senior voters look at him versus younger voters? That has been a distinction when you look at the choice for President among people 65 and over. Biden up 51, 45 among those voters. But among younger voters, he is not doing as well as he was in the last time. If you look at the on the screen there, tighter margins, much tighter. Is that... Democrats don't think that's real, but what explains this shift of sorts where some more seniors are moving towards Biden and younger voters are not?

Frankly, I think it's that there are a lot of younger voters who think that Biden is too old for another term. I would imagine that people who are closer to Biden in age might not feel as concerned about that. I don't know, maybe that's reductive, but I would guess that there's something to that.

You add Gaza and all the rest, and that becomes an issue as well. Biden's Hollywood fundraiser last night. He pulled in a significant amount of money. Obviously, the fundraising has been an issue for Biden for some time, or that they've been winning for some time. Now, recently, Trump has overtaken him in recent months. As you see by Trump and his allies pulling in $141 million in May compared to, we don't know what the Biden team has raised yet, but they were ahead quite a bit up until recently. In post-conviction, Trump has really started to juice his fundraising much different than, as you see, April. We'll see what the latest numbers are. You know what's interesting? Last night, they went to this Hollywood fundraiser. Typically, these things are a closed doors affair. You don't really hear much about it. Maybe some reports get out. They were happy to bring in, show Biden next to all these Hollywood celebrities and George Clooney and the like. You've covered fundraisers for so many years. What do you make of that?

It's interesting. I mean, this comes off of the heels when he had a big fundraiser with Stephen Colbert. Also interesting that Barack Obama, the former President alongside him. I think this is an area where he can show some livelihood. When you look at some of the quotes that came out of there to your point. Oftentimes, these are very tight-lipped affairs. But you saw that Biden was off the cuff making jokes. I think in a way, they're trying to showcase him not just as the elderly President, and that he can spar that he's He's cool. Is there a cool factor with Hollywood? I think that Biden's hoping that that can rub off on him a little bit.

Certainly with enthusiasm. I think that there's something about Hollywood that brings a lot of enthusiasm. We saw it, obviously, with Barack Obama. There was an entire movement around how cool school, as you said, Barack Obama was. I do think we talk about young voters, older voters. You mentioned Gaza. But I also think when we're talking about some of these groups that Donald Trump is trying to siphon voters away from, a lot of that is because there's a lack of enthusiasm. It's not just trying to get the voters, it's also trying to depress them from coming out for Biden. A lot of that starts with this idea that there's no enthusiasm for President Joe Biden. Doing stuff like this is something where you bring eyes to him in a very fun way, whereas a lot of what people see is him being pointed to as an older President. Instead, this gives him that young edge of being in Hollywood.

That gives Republicans the opportunity to paint him as out of touch. Italy, yeah. I'm sure we'll hear that as well. All.