Hi, my name is Lisa Kudrow, and I feel good. No.

What?

No. Really good.

Naboo. Yay. It's terrible. It's like you're in a hostage situation.

That's one of your oldest friends.

Oldest and best friends.

It's funny to be mean.

Yeah, it is funny to be mean. I prefer it.

Fall is here hear the yell back to school ring the bell brand new shoes walk and lose climb the fence books and pens?

I can tell that we are gonna be friends? Cause I can tell that we are gonna be friends hello, and welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a friend. I'm sitting here with sonom of session. Yes, Professor Matt Gorley. Hi. Yes. Would you guys ever get a tattoo ever? I bring this up because this is just interesting to me. When I was a kid, you just never saw a tattoo unless it was.

Like, a navy guy.

Well, what I'm saying is, when you did see a tattoo, it was quite stunning. Tattoos traditionally started in, I do think it started in the navy, and I think it started, I could be wrong. Not that it started, but it was picked up by, I think, british sailors. I could be wrong, but I read a book recently that was talking about Captain Cook roaming around, and british sailors saw they'd visit different islands, and they'd see the people of those islands that had tattoos, and it got them interested in it. But it used to be this. Almost a sign of, you're an outcast, or I'm part of this elite group that doesn't fit with the rest of society. It was quite shocking if you saw a tattoo, and now.

Now it's the opposite.

I mean, now for someone not to have a tattoo, kind of crazy.

That's why I don't have one. I never told this story.

I would have thought you'd be a candidate for.

I know. So one mean, and we kept each other in check pretty well, too, because not one of you is the star of the show. You know, you're accountable to five other people. That was great. That was really good. I forget what I was going to say. I'm concerned about you, Branch. Where's my blood pressure cuff? No one's.I'm just going to.No one cares about me.And I put it on you, but.Yeah, because there was a backlash for us. Like, after two or three seasons, I don't remember, but, you know, we didn't know to stop. We're just doing what the network and studio were asking us all this publicity to do, and we were way overexposed, and so there was this big backlash. And we, I remember the six of us met because we were asked to do something, and the discussion was, do we do it or not? Because we always would discuss everything we were going to do. And what we realized was, yeah, let's not do it, because really, all we have to do right now is just show up at work. Let's have, like, a moratorium on all the press and just show up. And I remember saying, or, yeah, he was on talking about joking.No, we were. This wasn't even on tv. We were just outside in the 6th floor, and he was just so filled with joy and excitement. And he was saying, and I got to shoot the scene with Jill Goodacre, Jill Kunaika. She's beautiful. And I was like, this sounds. He was like, it's all going so well. And things, as everything plays out, it's terribly, terribly sad. But I, you know, and I just have this tiny, tiny fraction of moments here and there with him. But I inevitably go back to those moments where. Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, at the wedding early on, and when I would see him and he was just so happy, so talented. So, I mean, that's a little bit of a blessing, is when you can go back and see that.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and also, look, that was. Everyone was so excited. And I think for some people, and he was definitely one of them, it's. Oh, my God, this would be really good. Everything will be fixed now. That's not how it goes.Well, we've seen that a lot, which is if people take. And I try to. I think I bring this up a lot, but I think there's. I've seen a lot of people become famous or get famous or start in a certain place, and I've had an interesting vantage point on it. And what I've seen time and time and time again, which I wish I could tell people, is there's a lot that's kind of nice. That is nice about being successful, and that's nice about having someone be happy to see you. It doesn't fix anything. If something is broken. If something is cracked or something needs mending, it will not fix any of that. In fact, it probably hurts.Yeah.Because the disappointment and the rage. Wait a minute. I got the thing I wanted. Now I'm famous. I got the house. I got the attention. And why the fuck isn't this fix? And it's like, well, that's a whole. This is a clear broth. This isn't going to do anything for that.Yeah. I mean, I do feel that. It's like. Because I remember thinking that before, you know, and I was struggling having my ramen noodles every night and everything, and thought, like, someone I know, like, would become famous or something. And I'd think, oh. Oh, God, see? Yeah. Then if everyone loves you, then, you know, you'll give yourself, you'll love you, like, without even realizing how sick that was. It was like, yeah, that's what. That's. That's the healing power of fame. And luckily, I had therapy before friends and did understand? But I know it's at the root of all that is like. Yeah, because if everything goes well and everybody loves me, then I. Then I will submit to loving myself, too. And I think that's. That's the problem. I mean, I think we. We think there's something shameful in loving yourself or there. You know, you're going to be an asshole if you do, but that's not. That's not what love is.Jesus.So I've got to go because I think I've just healed all of you. Your blood pressure dropped. You did 20 points just now.You are.And you're welcome.You are. There's all the things that people know about you being incredibly funny and brilliant and having this great, just career. I don't know that people understand how wise you are. Of all my friends, which is fortunately for me, I know a lot of people. I think you're one of the wisest people I know. I'm serious. No, in terms of, like, in terms of. Just take.Just stop lying.In terms of. In terms of people. You've always been people and what life really is and what's important. I think you're very gifted that way. So I think we're going to end on that. And thank you so much for coming in, seriously. And congratulations on the new show because I love it.Oh, good.Yeah. The idea that these very impossibly cool guys called you up and said, we've always wanted to work with you, you, Lisa kudrow, that's just. It's so. It makes perfect sense to me. It's very cool.It was thrilling for me. Thanks.Well, next time, come up with a better, you know, conan O'Brien blank.You know, I'm perfectly happy, honored, grateful. I said again, about being conan O'Brien's friend.There you go. That's it. With anger is the anger.Conan O'Brien needs a friend. With conan O'Brien, sonam of session and matt gorley, produced by me, matt gorley. Executive produced by adam Sachs, nick liao and jeff ross at Team coco and Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf. Theme song by the White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer. Samples. Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Bautista and Brick Kahn. You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts, and you might find your review read on a future episode. Got a question for Conan? Call the team Coco hotline at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It too could be featured on a future episode. And if you havent already, please subscribe to Conan O'Brien needs a friend wherever fine podcasts are downloaded.

mean, and we kept each other in check pretty well, too, because not one of you is the star of the show. You know, you're accountable to five other people. That was great. That was really good. I forget what I was going to say. I'm concerned about you, Branch. Where's my blood pressure cuff? No one's.

I'm just going to.

No one cares about me.

And I put it on you, but.

Yeah, because there was a backlash for us. Like, after two or three seasons, I don't remember, but, you know, we didn't know to stop. We're just doing what the network and studio were asking us all this publicity to do, and we were way overexposed, and so there was this big backlash. And we, I remember the six of us met because we were asked to do something, and the discussion was, do we do it or not? Because we always would discuss everything we were going to do. And what we realized was, yeah, let's not do it, because really, all we have to do right now is just show up at work. Let's have, like, a moratorium on all the press and just show up. And I remember saying, or, yeah, he was on talking about joking.No, we were. This wasn't even on tv. We were just outside in the 6th floor, and he was just so filled with joy and excitement. And he was saying, and I got to shoot the scene with Jill Goodacre, Jill Kunaika. She's beautiful. And I was like, this sounds. He was like, it's all going so well. And things, as everything plays out, it's terribly, terribly sad. But I, you know, and I just have this tiny, tiny fraction of moments here and there with him. But I inevitably go back to those moments where. Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, at the wedding early on, and when I would see him and he was just so happy, so talented. So, I mean, that's a little bit of a blessing, is when you can go back and see that.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and also, look, that was. Everyone was so excited. And I think for some people, and he was definitely one of them, it's. Oh, my God, this would be really good. Everything will be fixed now. That's not how it goes.Well, we've seen that a lot, which is if people take. And I try to. I think I bring this up a lot, but I think there's. I've seen a lot of people become famous or get famous or start in a certain place, and I've had an interesting vantage point on it. And what I've seen time and time and time again, which I wish I could tell people, is there's a lot that's kind of nice. That is nice about being successful, and that's nice about having someone be happy to see you. It doesn't fix anything. If something is broken. If something is cracked or something needs mending, it will not fix any of that. In fact, it probably hurts.Yeah.Because the disappointment and the rage. Wait a minute. I got the thing I wanted. Now I'm famous. I got the house. I got the attention. And why the fuck isn't this fix? And it's like, well, that's a whole. This is a clear broth. This isn't going to do anything for that.Yeah. I mean, I do feel that. It's like. Because I remember thinking that before, you know, and I was struggling having my ramen noodles every night and everything, and thought, like, someone I know, like, would become famous or something. And I'd think, oh. Oh, God, see? Yeah. Then if everyone loves you, then, you know, you'll give yourself, you'll love you, like, without even realizing how sick that was. It was like, yeah, that's what. That's. That's the healing power of fame. And luckily, I had therapy before friends and did understand? But I know it's at the root of all that is like. Yeah, because if everything goes well and everybody loves me, then I. Then I will submit to loving myself, too. And I think that's. That's the problem. I mean, I think we. We think there's something shameful in loving yourself or there. You know, you're going to be an asshole if you do, but that's not. That's not what love is.Jesus.So I've got to go because I think I've just healed all of you. Your blood pressure dropped. You did 20 points just now.You are.And you're welcome.You are. There's all the things that people know about you being incredibly funny and brilliant and having this great, just career. I don't know that people understand how wise you are. Of all my friends, which is fortunately for me, I know a lot of people. I think you're one of the wisest people I know. I'm serious. No, in terms of, like, in terms of. Just take.Just stop lying.In terms of. In terms of people. You've always been people and what life really is and what's important. I think you're very gifted that way. So I think we're going to end on that. And thank you so much for coming in, seriously. And congratulations on the new show because I love it.Oh, good.Yeah. The idea that these very impossibly cool guys called you up and said, we've always wanted to work with you, you, Lisa kudrow, that's just. It's so. It makes perfect sense to me. It's very cool.It was thrilling for me. Thanks.Well, next time, come up with a better, you know, conan O'Brien blank.You know, I'm perfectly happy, honored, grateful. I said again, about being conan O'Brien's friend.There you go. That's it. With anger is the anger.Conan O'Brien needs a friend. With conan O'Brien, sonam of session and matt gorley, produced by me, matt gorley. Executive produced by adam Sachs, nick liao and jeff ross at Team coco and Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf. Theme song by the White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer. Samples. Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Bautista and Brick Kahn. You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts, and you might find your review read on a future episode. Got a question for Conan? Call the team Coco hotline at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It too could be featured on a future episode. And if you havent already, please subscribe to Conan O'Brien needs a friend wherever fine podcasts are downloaded.

he was on talking about joking.

No, we were. This wasn't even on tv. We were just outside in the 6th floor, and he was just so filled with joy and excitement. And he was saying, and I got to shoot the scene with Jill Goodacre, Jill Kunaika. She's beautiful. And I was like, this sounds. He was like, it's all going so well. And things, as everything plays out, it's terribly, terribly sad. But I, you know, and I just have this tiny, tiny fraction of moments here and there with him. But I inevitably go back to those moments where. Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, at the wedding early on, and when I would see him and he was just so happy, so talented. So, I mean, that's a little bit of a blessing, is when you can go back and see that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and also, look, that was. Everyone was so excited. And I think for some people, and he was definitely one of them, it's. Oh, my God, this would be really good. Everything will be fixed now. That's not how it goes.

Well, we've seen that a lot, which is if people take. And I try to. I think I bring this up a lot, but I think there's. I've seen a lot of people become famous or get famous or start in a certain place, and I've had an interesting vantage point on it. And what I've seen time and time and time again, which I wish I could tell people, is there's a lot that's kind of nice. That is nice about being successful, and that's nice about having someone be happy to see you. It doesn't fix anything. If something is broken. If something is cracked or something needs mending, it will not fix any of that. In fact, it probably hurts.

Yeah.

Because the disappointment and the rage. Wait a minute. I got the thing I wanted. Now I'm famous. I got the house. I got the attention. And why the fuck isn't this fix? And it's like, well, that's a whole. This is a clear broth. This isn't going to do anything for that.

Yeah. I mean, I do feel that. It's like. Because I remember thinking that before, you know, and I was struggling having my ramen noodles every night and everything, and thought, like, someone I know, like, would become famous or something. And I'd think, oh. Oh, God, see? Yeah. Then if everyone loves you, then, you know, you'll give yourself, you'll love you, like, without even realizing how sick that was. It was like, yeah, that's what. That's. That's the healing power of fame. And luckily, I had therapy before friends and did understand? But I know it's at the root of all that is like. Yeah, because if everything goes well and everybody loves me, then I. Then I will submit to loving myself, too. And I think that's. That's the problem. I mean, I think we. We think there's something shameful in loving yourself or there. You know, you're going to be an asshole if you do, but that's not. That's not what love is.

Jesus.

So I've got to go because I think I've just healed all of you. Your blood pressure dropped. You did 20 points just now.

You are.

And you're welcome.

You are. There's all the things that people know about you being incredibly funny and brilliant and having this great, just career. I don't know that people understand how wise you are. Of all my friends, which is fortunately for me, I know a lot of people. I think you're one of the wisest people I know. I'm serious. No, in terms of, like, in terms of. Just take.

Just stop lying.

In terms of. In terms of people. You've always been people and what life really is and what's important. I think you're very gifted that way. So I think we're going to end on that. And thank you so much for coming in, seriously. And congratulations on the new show because I love it.

Oh, good.

Yeah. The idea that these very impossibly cool guys called you up and said, we've always wanted to work with you, you, Lisa kudrow, that's just. It's so. It makes perfect sense to me. It's very cool.

It was thrilling for me. Thanks.

Well, next time, come up with a better, you know, conan O'Brien blank.

You know, I'm perfectly happy, honored, grateful. I said again, about being conan O'Brien's friend.

There you go. That's it. With anger is the anger.

Conan O'Brien needs a friend. With conan O'Brien, sonam of session and matt gorley, produced by me, matt gorley. Executive produced by adam Sachs, nick liao and jeff ross at Team coco and Colin Anderson and Cody Fisher at Earwolf. Theme song by the White Stripes. Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino. Take it away, Jimmy. Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer. Samples. Engineering and mixing by Eduardo Perez and Brendan Burns. Additional production support by Mars Melnick. Talent booking by Paula Davis, Gina Bautista and Brick Kahn. You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts, and you might find your review read on a future episode. Got a question for Conan? Call the team Coco hotline at 669-587-2847 and leave a message. It too could be featured on a future episode. And if you havent already, please subscribe to Conan O'Brien needs a friend wherever fine podcasts are downloaded.