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Greet Scott. If my calculations are correct, you are listening to this before your fantasy football drafts have taken place. I've been to the future and those that followed. The advice from the fantasy footballers ultimate draft kit had a spectacular season and withstood many victories. It's almost as if Biff had given each of them a copy of Craze Sports Almanac. I'd highly recommend heading over to www.ultimatedraftkit.com without any further delay.

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

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Welcome in, Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, the fantasy footballers podcast Thursday.

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It's here, baby.

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My guys, 15th.

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Gotcha, suckers.

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Gotcha.

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Good.

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I was gonna say, like, the my guys episode is one of the next two. And today we're doing a mock draft.

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Mmm.

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Well, there was, I don't know if you followed Andy. There was quite the hullabaloo on Twitter because both Jason and I were under the impression that my guys was today.

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Oh, you actually thought.

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Genuinely thought beginning of yesterday's episode, I thought it was.

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So we tweeted out, you know, the. Every year we tweet out, giving people.

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A chance to guess, like, what are the same thing.

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Yeah, but except you didn't read our tweets when we said, my guys is tomorrow.

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Oh, you did?

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Yeah. And then I got a DM from Brooks being like mid show yesterday saying, hey, the my guys. And I was like, whatever.

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I got, I had my timer, like, to edit my tweet. What I got in with like a minute left. So I changed mine to Friday. So I had, mine was saying Friday, his was saying Thursday. And the people were absolutely bamboozled.

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Well, they are just on the edge of their seat. I am. I'm really disappointed that I didn't change all of our show titles for the entire week to mock draft with a question or, I mean, sorry, my guys with a question mark in front of it.

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Is it today?

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It will be tomorrow. I, I tweeted the same thing. People guessing are my guys. And, you know, I gave a big hint about my, my guys.

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Yeah, you basically gave yours away, bro.

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Did people get it?

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Some people got it, but they're not my, my guys anymore.

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Oh, yeah, I did.

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See you. You sent weed of. I said you were changing.

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I just said, you know, sources are telling me that some things may be moving and changing and, you know, are you the source? I am the source. I am both sources.

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Is that allowed?

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You can be your own.

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Can you put out? Just like I've got sources telling me that this is happening, but actually you're the source the whole time.

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I think that happens a lot, Mike, from bad reporters.

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I just. It looks.

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Some injuries say it was a good sort.

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Some injuries have taken place.

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Yeah.

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And you know, do I. I know that, like, the big decisions in life, right? Like, if you decide that you're gonna get married and you decide, this is the person I'm gonna be with rest of my life, and then your bride.

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Gets hurt right before the wedding, and you're like, I'm out.

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You're too frail. Pivot.

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Sometimes you pivot is what I. Yeah, you get cold feet.

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Availability is an ability.

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I'm just.

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You're out.

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Like on the.

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Out of here.

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Tina, in the grand scheme of things, the my guy decision is so much bigger than you're like a marriage.

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Right?

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Is kind of my point.

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Yeah.

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So you just got to make sure you get it right.

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Yeah. Cuz these ones are for life. Oh. Any.

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Any former. My guys you wish you could annoy. Annull the marriage.

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There's been a few.

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Some exes you don't want no one to remember. Oh, gosh.

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What? What was that? Is this true?

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No.

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Yeah, that's a true story, dude.

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That's. No, no, no, that's elite.

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No, hey, look, you. This is true.

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So.

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My God, this is the worst podcast.

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Read a minute, we'll read it.

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I don't feel like I can't read it.

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I'm reading.

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Well, welcome, foot clan, to the fantasy footballers. If you're new, stick with us. We do get into fantasy football content. We try to do a great job at it, but sometimes we just have fun. And we're going to be going up head to head today in the mock draft against our stupid producers.

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Ballers v deucers.

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And one of them, the. The baby, the. The falcon, he is. He is embarrassed. Speaker zero dump truck is about to get exposed here in a way that you will enjoy. Mike, take it away.

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So I just found this out that at some time recently, Matt, aka the falcon, aka poopy pants McGee, disclosed that he previously would. He would take a date to an escape room as it's a test to see how they like, can they handle the pressure? Can they solve these puzzles? Because he wants an intellectual match.

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If and if they can't escape, then there. He's out. That's brutal.

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You did not pass the test. Is that what the. Is that what the story is? No, it's. It's like a wonder.

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Your date, they didn't pass the test.

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It's like a compatibility test, you know?

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Yeah, no, I. Look, I totally get it, man. And what happens then? What happens if you're the one who can't figure out the puzzles?

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They leave me. Yeah.

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All right.

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I like the idea that they're in two separate rooms, and when. If they don't both come out at the. I mean, whoever comes out first is just drives away.

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Oh, man.

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So, yeah. I'm also reacting to some very fresh news that we'll get into that's going to make tomorrow all the worse before we jump into, like, the mock draft is going to be amazing today. It's been a while since the three of us got to combine on a team, and we get to compete against seducers and explain some of the process. And we're getting so close to regular, real drafts. In fact, I'm in two drafts right now in not league of record, but, like, some other leagues. So it's happening. And. Which means we have, like, the most recent informational, middle of the preseason ADP data to go off of. But, I mean, tomorrow's a big day for more than just the. My guys. Tomorrow afternoon, we will be bestowing. Yeah. A UDK for life will be given away tomorrow afternoon along with assigned Justin Jefferson jersey. So for the rest of your natural life, you could have championships, which seems like something great.

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It seems like something I'd want.

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And the winners will be chosen and announced live on the YouTube channel on. On the live stream. And to enter to win, you just have to have purchased a UDK or UDK plus before the live stream, which means if you bought it in the past, you're entered to win. We're super excited, uh, to be with you tomorrow afternoon on the live stream.

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And hop on the live stream with us. We're going to answer if you've got a question for your upcoming drafts, you want to get a direct line to us, hop in, see if you can get your question answered, and then see if you're the winner of the. The ultimate draft kit, which you will already be a winner if you're even in the contest, because you will have an ultimate draft kit.

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Two things. One, you go to ultimatedraftkit.com to check that out to. I have, you know, we're busy. This is August. This is a busy time of year, and we've got, you know, Papa Josh and the Falcon, he handles, they handle some customer service questions that come through the support channel. I have jumped in here and there, and I did answer one question about whether you could bequeath the UDK.

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What was the official answer?

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The answer I chose to give in that moment was that yes, if it is a written will with a feather.

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Pinnae, that's totally fair.

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You use a quill.

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Yeah, you have to use a quill.

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And, and none of that built in ink. Oh, no, that is not real. That's a dip.

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The dip. It's a dip in Bequeath.

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Yeah. Okay. Official stamped.

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We still get to do this show?

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Yeah, we do.

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Are we good? Are we good, Al?

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We're doing good, man.

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All right, let's jump into some news.

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News and notes from around the league presented by USAA insurance.

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Giants rookie Malik neighbors. Full practice today. This is something I really wanted to see after the injury, that he'd be back out on the field this week. In fact, there's a chance he plays in the preseason game.

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That is great news. Makes you really not concerned of a lingering long term issue. So however you viewed him before the injury is probably how you should view him going forward. But it's also worth reminding yourselves and ourselves what Mike brought up yesterday, how, how difficult it is for a top fantasy producer to come from a bottom. Just offense.

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Lots to think about.

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Yeah, lots of consider for whoever he needs. He needs extreme volume, which, I mean, all reports at a camp are that that is what he is getting in joint practices and everything. So that's, that's the hope is that his talent is so elite and he'll see a 28 plus percent target. Sharon, if he gets that, then maybe things are okay.

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Yeah, man. Glad he's back out there. They also signed former running back of the Chargers Josh Kelly.

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Yeah, it's probably, it's a camp body, I would imagine because of Tracy's injury.

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Tracy's injury and then Jamir Gibbs. What's the latest?

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We're hearing that he should be ready for week one. Despite the kind of wishy washy quote yesterday from Dan Campbell, the reports have gotten more positive.

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I don't view this as any different, to be honest. When I, when I read the full reporting, it felt more like they were taking the quotes of we think he's going to be fine to just say he should be ready by week one. So I'm still holding my breath.

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I was trying to remember when you were talking about neighbors and how bad the Giants were and just the fact that like they were a, the Bengals when they drafted chase were a four and eleven team or a foreign.

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Well, that was also coming off the map.

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Didn't add up there, but they were.

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A bad team right but that was also the year. Was that when Joe Burrow was coming?

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Yeah, they went in ACL. They know. I think.

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Let me look that up.

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It was, it was just that the team changed from being one of the worst offensive teams very quickly. And yes, Burrow was a piece of that puzzle, too. We don't have the Burrow in New York. Christian Kirk, minor calf injury to Christian Kirk. What do we think about that? He's not a, he's not a spring chicken. You don't like to see it.

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It's also been interesting in preseason, he hasn't necessarily been in two wide receiver sets, so I'm starting to get a little bit more worried about the, like, I have loved drafting Christian Kirk because of the perceived floor of just being like, he is the clear cut, number one target for an offense that, you know, I don't think it's going to be a, you know, a top five offense, but it should be, it should be pretty good. It should be a top half offense and if you've got a clear number one latent drafts. But if he's not on the field in two wide receiver sets and he's dealing with a minor caffeine drive, bumped.

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Him down a little bit and on top of that, Andy ear boy. Brian Thomas Junior. Like the drumbeat has been, it started off pretty rough for him, like all the reports, but in the last week to two weeks, it has really been escalating that he's, he's starting to figure it out. He's making places, making people look silly. So I'm, he was already in that in the spot of I'm good taking a rookie wide receiver here, no matter, like, what their situation is, because the ADP is good. It's where they used to be.

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Right. Like the late round picks.

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Yeah, the risk reward was, was usually a fantastic scenario. Now we got these other guys who are way up there, but, but Thomas is in an area where I think you should get some exposure.

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Yeah, it seems similar to kind of a cheaper Green Bay packers situation where you've got like, I think Jaden Reed the better wide receiver, but you worry about the ceiling versus Christian Watson, a complete unknown speaker, zero. But you go the athleticism, the traits that one period where you scored touchdowns at will, that's like if you want to take the, you know, the rocket fuel chance, that's Brian Thomas Juniore.

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All right, Matthew Stafford. You hate to see this because it, the fragility of the Rams fantasy prospects, it's always right in your face with Matthew Stafford and he did not finish practice. McVeigh said he was experiencing hamstring tightness.

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Wait, it was. I thought it was his back.

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No, no, no. It was hamstring.

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Okay.

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And McVeigh just said, yeah, unfortunately, it tightened up on him. You don't like to hear this just because the prospects of the entire, you know, cup, puka, Chiron, take. You know, if you take.

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It's a massive hit. I mean, if, if Stafford misses time, maybe later in the season when Jimmy Garoppolo comes back from suspension. Okay. They've got a serviceable backup. As of right now, I believe it's steps. And Bennett.

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He was suspended.

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Yeah.

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Oh, that guy.

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You don't get that handsome natural.

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What happens when the drugs don't enhance your performance?

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They must be enhancing your.

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What about, like, neutral performance drugs? Are those legal?

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Yeah, those are vitamins. I would honestly, I swore I saw something about back yesterday. Maybe I just. Quick, quickly re. Quickly read through it. Back is way worse to me. Like, if Stafford has a back issue, then I'm gonna. That'll be red flags. If it's a hamstring, I'm. Okay.

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I have not seen anything about it.

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I was. I read the thing directly from McVeigh.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm saying when it initially came out, maybe. And again, maybe I just probably is reading.

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Probably just last night.

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That's not good.

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No.

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JJ McCarthy underwent a full meniscus repair out for the entire season.

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This stinks, man. For Vikings fans. For JJ McCarthy for. And JJ McCarthy comes out, looks awesome in his first preseason game. Yeah, he leaves that game. You know, to my knowledge, he wasn't injured. It was just, wow. I'm so happy with his performance. He looks great. He's gonna. He's gonna take over for the sacrificial baby even earlier than expected, and then all of a sudden he's out for the season. It certainly changes things. Yeah.

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What's your, what's your take on Jefferson? And I get like, when we got a lump Addison in here as well. Let's just combo that news because he. Right after the JJ McCarthy news came out, news broke. Jordan Addison just went down trying to sky up for a ball. Ends up getting carted off. And it's. Holy crap, you know, you never want to hear carted off, but that has been turned into. It's just a. A minor ankle injury, but it's still an injury. So where are you at just overall with the Vikings offense? Because this is big stuff happening.

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I would not be surprised if it is neutral to positive for the wide receiver crew, even though JJ McCarthy looked great, he's still a rookie and rookies don't throw a lot of touchdowns. Now, I don't think Sam Donald's gonna throw a lot.

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Let's just bring it into the, like, DJ Moore was not a weapon with Sam Donald. Right. Like, I mean, this is, I think we have. You can see it go either way. Like, we have different views on this because you guys both kind of have the opinion and I like your point, Mike, you said this on a social post yesterday. You will have consistency. You will not have this period of the season, which is annoying, where you're like, are they going to make the change? Are they not going to make the change? Like, if you get some trends with Sam Darnold, at least you know that that's what you're going to continue to get. But I don't like it. I personally think that JJ McCarthy is going to be a better, higher ceiling opportunity for these players.

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Yeah.

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Long term, I definitely agree with that. What we know, though, is at least last year and look, Kevin O'Connell teams, they throw a lot. Even when Kirk Cousins went down and they had quarterbacks who were quality of backup to backup, like, these are third string guys out there taking starts for the Minnesota Vikings, they were still throwing a ton. So at least efficiency, it might struggle with Sam Darnold, but volume will be there. What do you got going here?

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Yeah, I mean, you know, something I probably should have looked into even earlier, but it, look, we're live here and we're doing it live. I didn't remember because we've had two years off from Sam Donald, who was a very highly drafted prospect and people have still believed in, and they've said, you know, he's, he's, he's a good backup and he's going to be fine as a starter. He was the starter right now for the Vikings already. I forgot how bad he was. Here's his touchdown. Because I'm like, okay, rookies are going to come and what are they going to throw? Are they going to throw for 20 touchdowns and ruin your fantasy output? Here are Sam Donald's career passing touchdowns. Rookie year 17, sophomore year 19. Then the next two years he was still the starter, didn't play the full seasons. I'm going to give you his 17 game pace, a full season pace for those seasons. Twelve and 13. Full season pace on passing touchdowns.

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Yeah.

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So, Andy, you're 100% right.

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Like, yeah, it's, it's a concern. It's a real concern for me, whether you throw the ball a lot, we saw Sam. Hell, they threw the ball more than anybody in football. Did that make Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dodson, those guys super weapons. And Sam, how wasn't the super weapon fantasy either? I mean, volume. Yes, Kevin O'Connell throws it a lot, but I want skill and talent and.

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But this is what we've got and depend up.

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Yeah, no, it is now. But I would not be shocked at all. I, if Minnesota, now that they know that McCarthy is out for the year, if we don't see a splashy veteran name arrive on this team, not named.

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Josh Dobbs, they're gonna go out and sign Matt Ryan p river back out of retirement.

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I don't know about those, but I think somebody in the. Matt Ryan, somebody in the wins. Let the bet live in and the Jamis.

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Go get him, baby.

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I'm, you know, that's a great name. Don't forget Sam Darnold saw ghosts on the field before.

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Get Jamis out there, man. Let him throw for five k again. Let's do this.

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That I would be excited about. So, look, I'm sorry, Vikings fans. Yeah, it has not been, it's not been great as of late. And it even further concerns me about Aaron Jones. Just from an offensive perspective, all the stuff you highlighted on the top ten tips and tricks.

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Yeah, I mean, the Minnesota, when I was doing that study of looking at bottom ten offenses, trying to project them anyways, it's, it, it's hard to not put Minnesota in there. And that was before the JJ McCarthy injury. They just, they were like a fringe team where I didn't like they could surprise. I think it'd be middle of the pack. But bottom ten is in their range of outcomes.

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All right, there's been a lot of news, a lot of little injuries. Also, Chuba Hubbard and Tyler Lockett, both dealing with injuries not considered to be serious. But pay attention to those. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA insurance. Learn more@usaa.com insurance we are going to take a break and come back with a live deucers versus ballers mock draft. All right, we're going to dive right into it. And quick reminder on the other side of the break. Uh, we will be live in Los Angeles for our 10th anniversary megalith show in less than two weeks. Tickets available at ballers live.com. if you're in the area, if you're much less willing to drive to the area.

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Yes. I mean, sleeper is presenting this show and they're doing this mock draft. Get out there, ballers Live.com. we want to see you.

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There you go.

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I want to give you the fantasy footballers mock draft.

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I mean, put a period. It sounded like you put a period at the end of your sentence.

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It was a pump fake, man.

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That's on me.

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It was a. It was a fake handoff. I was dropping back to pass and I got sacked.

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You did get sacked.

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That was unfair.

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I think you were gonna say that. You want to see them there?

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I was gonna say, I want to give them a fist bump.

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Okay. But, you know, that's a good, good toss in.

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Important.

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And one. All right, we are diving into a live mock draft here on this show, taking on the deucers over there in Deucers Valley who look like they are super prepared. We've got the Falcon smirking, Al with a kind of an unsettled confidence.

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And then I think, is that scowl from Papa?

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Scowl from the. Oh, not from the owl.

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Hard to tell over the shine.

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He actually doesn't know what's going on. We are jumping right in. It's a twelve team, half PPR mock draft. We're gonna, we're going to spread it out. Wide trips. Got three whiteouts, two running backs, one quarterback, one tight end, one flex. Four bench spots. And we randomly selected some spots. We ended up at four, the Deucers at pick eight. Okay, away we go. Tyree Kale goes off the board first.

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I don't mind it.

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No, it makes a ton of sense, especially in three wide cd. Lamb also makes sense at two.

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Is Christian McCaffrey going to drop to us?

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No, McCaffrey is off the board at three and we are on the clock at one oh four. And, you know, you're going to have to reorient your mind. We are not enemies. We're not mortal enemies on this show.

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We're actually friends.

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We're friends. We need to draft a better team than the deucers. That's obvious.

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That's easy.

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Well, you know, just be careful.

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So, obviously, I think, I assume we all agree this is a three way decision. Not between us, but between three players. You got Bijon and Bries at running back and you got Jamar Chase at wide receiver, right? That's who we're looking at. Is there anyone else in the conversation here at four?

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I'm always fine with somebody considering elm and raw in the same conversation as Jamar Chase, but. Yeah, but we don't have to do that. Mike, where would you like to go?

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The man with the. There still is elite wide receivers on the board and have, in having to play three changes things. But, man, playing hero running back here, I think is the direction I would start this.

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I like playing hero running back. If you don't know what that is. Hero running back is a version of zero running back where you do draft one of, if you get one of the studs, one of the heroes, which basically this year right now feels like only three options, Christian McCaffrey, Bijon and Brice, then you're going to go away from running back for a while, load up on wide receivers or even your onesie positions. I think that's a good strategy in a three wide because, you know, you still need running backs, but it's tough. I mean, to me, I'm between, I like Bijon more than Bryce and I love Jamar Chase in a three wide. So if you don't want to have that strategy, we.

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Yeah, I'm fine with Chase here. Mike and I are on the breeze side, you're on the bijan side, but we're all on the chase side, I think.

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I don't know if it makes a difference. I'm looking it like, you know, sleepers picks their week one lines. We got Jamar Chase at 83 and a half receiving yards, Bijon at 71 rushing yards. Get off to a hot start. Does that sway you towards Chase?

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I mean, that doesn't, but I'll tell.

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I mean, I was, I was already swayed.

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I was pretty swayed.

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So we're, we're chasing it?

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Yeah, we'll go.

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I love it.

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Oh, we'll go. Chase.

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Nope. Nope.

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Ty goes to the Jamar Chase at 104. Bjon Robinson goes off the board at 105, and then Jefferson and amon Ra. I have seen Jefferson rising in just anecdotal my participation in mocks and real drafts. I have seen Jefferson going up.

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He is brutal.

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I don't mean as a reaction to the Darnold news, just in general, even before that happened.

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He's the best wide receiver in football.

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Yeah, that's a good headline for.

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And it's. I believe it's a bad pick. I really do. There's, so there. I know that he is.

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When does he become a good pick?

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Like the one two turn, maybe? I guess really it's, it's a matter of who he's going ahead of or behind. Like, I would never take him personally ahead of Amon Rossi Brown or AJ Brown.

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Any of the Browns.

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None. None of them. Well, Hollywood, I would definitely take. So I guess. I guess we could, we can't do that.

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All right. The deucer is on the clock here, and I don't know who's going to be the, like, the project leader. You know, when you're in school and you got to do the project with a group, but then somebody has to present which one of the deucers is making this pick.

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We're going to start with me.

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Okay. That's.

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We were hoping amen Ra would fall, but he did not. He went right before us. We're going to go ahead and take breeze hall right here.

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Yeah. You got an easy layup of a pick. That stinks.

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Are you gonna have a way to kinda.

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You gonna disclaim all of our pick?

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Yeah, I was gonna say you have a way to, like, make all of their picks kind of, like, invalid if I.

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If I need to, but I think they're gonna do it themselves.

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All right, breeze, haul off the board. It was an option for us. I think if we had gone running back, it would have been majority rules on briefs there. So you get them four picks later. AJ Brown goes next. Jamir Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor. Saquon Barkley rounding out the first round. In fact, that. That is another trend I am noticing is the Saquon above Chiron situation. I'm seeing that a lot. Garrett Wilson starting the second round. Puka Nakua Etienne, and then Marvin Harrison at 204 here. Okay, that is a deep cut.

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Going back to the NFL draft, when our Arizona card, France for Marvin drafted Mar.

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Love you, Marvin.

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And Mike exclaimed that he would never wear pants again. He was that excited. So not going back to the pants or what? You. You didn't get him.

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I know.

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Didn't get him.

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No. I'm celebrating that the Deucers did not get him.

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Fair enough. The deucers are back on the clock at 02:05. Bries hall in the first round. What do we got going on? What's the thought process? Also, who are you drafting?

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The thought process is a lot of the guys we were looking at went off the board. So we're obviously, Kyron would be a great pick here, but we don't know that we want to double up on our bees in a three wide receiver roster. So I think we're going to reach just a touch and go for Christopher Olave. Or is it christian?

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No, he drafted Christopher Olave, who is a postman in Nebraska.

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You don't want to mess with the postman.

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Drake London goes next. So Bruce hall and Chris Olave at your first two picks. Drake London. Drake London at 02:06 Derek Henry at 02:07, Chiron at 208. Tyron almost fell to 209.

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That. That would have been our layup pick. If Chiron had fallen since we went wide receiver and grabbed Jamar, Kyron is still in that next tier of elites.

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To me, I still think there's a, there's just one pick jumping off the page. To me. We went chase. I thought we'd be okay. Now we're going to have a quick turn. We're going to come right back. But to me, there's like, there's one guy I agree that I believe should be drafted here.

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I agree.

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I know who Jason wants. I don't know who Andy wants to pick.

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Devon H. Oh, okay.

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That is who I want.

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Yeah, that, that would be the pick for me now just to lay, give you a lay of the land at wide receiver. Devontae Adams is still there. If Adams was there at three oh four, I think that would be a strong pick in a three wide in terms of value. Debo iuk, those guys are there. We've had a lot of whiteouts go off the board. Chiron would have been a neat steal here.

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But I'm, I'm comfortable with agent put a chance through.

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Yeah, I have. I have made the transition to being fully comfortable with him as my running back. One. It is risky. It is a gamble. But you're, you're playing to win a, you're not playing to just, you know, be a decent team that maybe squeaks in the playoffs and loses week one.

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So a chan, so far so good on the like, you know, we're agreeing.

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With one another and, dude, I got my golden ticket.

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I'm.

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If I need to sway you, I've still got a golden ticket. Good for one free Andy Holloway agreement.

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We'll just make sure Mike's on your side for that. Otherwise, it's going to be a real waste.

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Oh, that's true. I don't want to waste your golden ticket.

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Chase and a chan. Our first two selections drafting from the fourth spot. The Deucers have breeze hall and crystal lava. Travis Kelsey goes next. Off the board at 210. Little bit early for where I would be comfortable taking that shot 100%, but Jacobs at 211, Adams at 212, Josh Allen, the first quarterback at 03:01. Iuk and Nico Collinse. We narrowly avoided Mike hard selling us Nico Collins at three oh four.

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I feel like it would have been an easy sell if Nico was here. That probably would have been my pick.

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Speaker zero. Now, we just had a tight end episode where I said I was comfortable with La Porta at the 301, this would be the 304. Just bringing it up. I know you guys are not going to be on board for that. I'm not going to push you too hard, but I don't mind that advantage at this point in a draft. I might mind it a little more in a three wide, though, where you have an extra spot to fill.

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Yeah.

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And that does change the equation. So I'm not going to push there. But at running back, looking at names that I know, we have some agreement on Pacheco, James Cook, Joe Mixon for some stability. I talked yesterday about dynamic duos. I'm not sure it gets better than the mix in a chan combo as.

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Far as a floor and ceiling, floor.

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And ceiling, running back duo. And then James Connor still there at wideout. We all like Debo. We have him ranked very high and he is way below where we would have him in terms of what running back or wideout? Off the board. Jalen Waddle. Mike, you're a big fan.

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I am. The question becomes, are you good starting with a CHN and Jalen Waddle? I was really hoping Nico would drop so we didn't have to make that decision because I. I get it if you don't want to overload with the Miami Dolphins with your second and third pick. I do like Debo.

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Yeah.

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And I get the three wide. But right now I would, out of this group, I would push for Isaiah Pacheco.

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So that, I mean, you just named him. So it's, it's, to me it's Pacheco or Debo Samuel. I love both players. I think both players are undervalued. Being the fact that we are in a three wide. I think that would tie break for me. For the Debo side. I love Pacheco. I would be 100% fine with either one of these guys.

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Where do you have Pacheco?

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I'll have to look that up. I think he's about ten. Nine or ten.

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He's in my top ten and Debo is outside of my top twelve. Wide receiver.

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Consensus wise, Debo is our wide receiver. Seven.

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Yeah, we just did that show. I remembered he was at seven. Yeah, we have them very high. Mike, you have him very high.

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I'm. Yeah, you've got him at 13. I've got him at nine. Andy at nine. But that consensus wise puts him up because there's a lot of disagreement on the wide receivers at this point in the draft.

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Well, let's play this out for the sake of the audience. What I think the two outcomes could be if we went with Debo Samuel and we felt like we needed to come back and stabilize the running back position. We're probably going to be in the James Connor Ramondre Swift category, maybe with a chance at Alvin Camaro. If you flip it the other direction, we go Pacheco. You know, you're probably talking about Cooper cup. Who I like. Michael Pittman. A stabilizer. Devante Smith.

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Tank Dell.

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Okay.

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DJ Moore. I don't want to take Dink. Take dink. I don't want to take tick tank. Take tank.

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You don't want to take in the fourth?

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Not it. I'd rather take him a 504 and take that shot.

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Adp.

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But, but anyway, I will say that. So that is a really good thing to do. If you're listening and you're trying to decide between a running back and a wide receiver, look at who's going to be there next because that convinced me to switch to the Pacheco side. I feel like a lot more than those running backs.

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You guys want to do that?

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Yes.

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Okay. Pacheco off the board.

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I'm loving this team.

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Jalen Hurts goes 03:05 Sam Laporta at 03:06 okay, Mike Evans off the board. Deucers are on the clock. Brief hall was the first round pick. Chris Olave, their second round pick. And I, I can see jason shaking his head because he thinks that the Deuces are just going to quick draw on Debo.

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Yeah. But I don't know if that's a no.

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Okay, they did. Yeah. They took Debo Samuel with. No, no need to explain.

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Waddle was our other guy we were considering there. Yeah. I mean, it's good your team is actually. I mean, I don't want to compliment anything you guys do. However, it's working out very well. The fact that we were considering Bruce hall at the, the 104 and you got them picks later and we were considering Debo at the 304 and you got them picks later. You, you're getting good value now. You guys have, you guys listen to our show a lot.

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Yeah. I mean, I hope seven whiteouts have gone off the board. One thing to consider when I was playing out both scenarios was the fact that three wide, more wideouts might go. Cup is gone. Waddles gone. DJ Moore, who I love, is gone. And then digs. And neighbors. So Deucers back on the clock. I think I've given them enough time to make the wrong decision.

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Yeah, I mean, they don't need a lot of time to make a dumb pick the truth is, I'm still. I'm still happy with several wide receivers. I mean, I'll say that, and then it will all be wide receivers. But there's a handful of guys I really like here, so I'm. I think we're set up. Okay. All right. What's your pick? Trey McBride, maybe.

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It's funny. They went Trey McBride. And I was. I was going to bring the name up if you got back to us as a. As a option at four oh nine, chase a chan and Pacheco are first three off the board. Jason is looking around. Tell us what you're thinking.

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James Cook made it back.

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No, that. That is interesting, but he's looking around.

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Because he wants to take Tink Dell as our wide receiver, too.

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You mentioned earlier, Andy, you want to play the ADP game, wait till the fifth. What we've seen in this draft is because it is three wide receiver, not the two, two and a flex. It's three, two and a flex where the wide receivers have all been pushed up. You know, you talked about Michael Pittman or Cooper cup or Devontae Smith making it back to us. None of them did. And there's six picks between our next pick, and we're currently with one wide receiver. So to me, we've got to take.

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A wider Mark Andrews.

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I mean, I think the value is there, but if you look at. Yeah, you've got two good tight ends and obviously both could go to team one and team two. Team three already has a tight end, so we could end up with either one of them at our next pick. At wide receiver, there's tank Dell and T Higgins are really the only Mari.

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Cooper.

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Cooper. Yeah, I. I've cooled on him a little bit, but I. I gotta remember how hot I was for Amari Cooper this offseason.

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Well, you've cooled, but you were. You were really hot. So what's your temperature? Is it still above average? Like, are you average?

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It's like a. I.

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Low grade.

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Some people call a low grades 99.9. I would not call that a fever. Thank you. It's not. Some people say that's a low grade fever. No, it's not. Just.

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Do you feel good?

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I feel totally fine.

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Okay.

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I got a little bit of the sweats, but most of my sweats are for normal, are for tank Dell. I mean, this draft is working out well for me, so I like it. But what do you guys think?

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I mean, you can go tank Dale and come back with probably Alvin Camarae in the next round if you wanted.

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To or one of those tight ends.

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Mike, I have heard from you. I need you to weigh in here because Jason's got a low grade fever and I don't trust.

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It's. It's tough that tank Dell would be my highest ranked wide receiver, that I would be going with the fact that James Cook.

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You have him ahead of. See Higgins.

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Let me just double check. Yeah. Yes.

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Higgins should probably not be a consideration for a chase team anyway.

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Right, right, right. I'm good with. With Tink Dell, but the fact that James Cook made it back is. I know it's three wide, but having a champa check on James Cook, all guys who I have a strong conviction, can and should finish as top twelve running backs, that it's.

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It's hard to bypass that with Cook being here. In hindsight, I would have rather taken Debo and then come back with James Cook. Right.

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For sure.

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But we didn't. And if I compare Pacheco and tank Dell to Debo and James Cook, I'm just as happy with that.

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I might take Dell here and then see if we get lucky with Cook or mix in or Walker or camara coming back to us.

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If James Cook will definitely.

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If we're sitting here, though, and saying that wide receivers are going to go off the board more often, there's a chance that we get Andrews and Kincaid off the board and a quarterback and a wideout, which would make it a fun game. All right, let's give it a shot. After Dell was James Cook.

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Yeah.

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Joe mix and T. Higgins Camara and then Stroud. So we are back. If we want to go running back, we've lost the names I really liked.

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Oh, Ken Bone Walker. Still there, guys?

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Yeah.

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Cook mix in Khmer. I mean, Ken Walker's great. Amartey Cooper is still on the board. It is three wide pickens.

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Yeah. And you have both tight ends. You could take Mark Andrews here.

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This is probably. This is probably time to take Mark.

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And I think so. I've talked about. I like leaving the draft with one of the top five. Mark Andrews is, I think, two of our number two tight ends overall.

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You've gotten guys that you like, though, Jay. So I'm gonna let Mike make the pick and he can decide if he wants Ken Bone Walker or Mark Bone and versus who.

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Did you guys see? He was in a wreck.

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Yeah.

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And they said the wreck was really bad. And yet Mark Andrews, Superman, did, like.

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Flipped a truck and just walked away.

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So hopefully Mark is actually okay over there.

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It's your pick, Mike. I don't care what you do.

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I'm gonna officially say I don't care what you do, either.

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You don't care what I do?

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No, you. You live your best life.

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Yeah.

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Okay. KB dub.

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I lied. I was really one. Mark Andrews there.

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Ken Walker.

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I need to get on board with Ken Walker. He's going to be great.

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So you took him as kind of a lead the parade. Yeah, well, Kincaid, Pickens, and Andrews went the next three picks, which, at least. I mean, I guess the deuces already had McBride, so we weren't going to hand off Mark Andrews to them. But the deucers have bries, Hall, Olavi, Debo, and McBride. I'm guessing that they're staring down that running back spot, but maybe not. Maybe they're looking at the decision for.

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Us, like, between Walker and Mark Andrews. I. I hate that. I hate this section of wide receivers. Like, I get it with the Mari Cooper. I. The numbers make sense. The numbers 100 makes sense, and the offense should be good. And yet, I still don't really want to draft Amari Cooper. And Keenan Allen is got the. Got a rookie. Rookie quarterback. Kirk's got his injury, and Terry's got a rookie quarterback. This section of wide receivers is.

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And Keenan just feels he hit 300 on the scale. 300 pounds on the scale. That is the dumbest storyline of my life. I watched the second episode of Hard Knocks. Kian looks totally normal.

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He wasn't eating the whole time.

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He was not eating the entire episode.

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Was that episode brought to you by five guys?

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In fact, if you know who was eating was DJ Moore. He was at the ice cream shop. Mad props to DJ. Mad props to DJ Moore.

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All right, it is really stupid.

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We're gonna take a break and then come back with the deucers picked. All right? Hopefully the. You know, we iced the kicker by taking the break. You know what I mean? Like, to overthinking. Like, I think there's a chance.

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Way to call timeout.

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They go, Bucky Irving here, but do. Sirs, what are we doing?

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Amari Cooper. We.

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I mean, we are riding super dirty here.

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What?

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That's your fault.

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No, I know.

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I want a debo.

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I know. I'm just saying I want Andrews. We are. Well, Andrews is not a wide receiver.

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When we said we didn't care, Mike, we cared.

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I think we're okay on. On wide receiver.

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Maybe you should use your words better.

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No, no. We cared to have somebody to blame. Amari Cooper, then Keenan Allen, the Deandre Swift, Aaron Jones, and George Kittle round out the fifth round. And then James Connor, always a little sad when he goes because you always, I always like to grab me some James Connor Layton drafts. We're already three running backs deep. Kyle Pitts, Anthony Richardson at 06:03 and David Montgomery off the board, the Deucers with three wide Olavi Debo and Amari Cooper, Trey McBride at tight end and Bruce hall at running back. They have adopted jason, the hero RB strategy thus far. And they are back on the clock at 06:05.

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And will they keep it going or grab a running back?

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Let's find out.

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Like, we are going low t on this one, boys. And we are taking Jaden Reed.

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Okay.

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Wow. Okay. So you, you really are using the hero running back strategy, which I think in a three wide receiver league is a great strategy. You can load up on some, you know, later running backs who, you know, guys like Jerome Ford who might be able to get off to a strong start. And then you pick up waiver pickups to fill in those running back positions. It's. It's a strategy that can definitely win a league.

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After Reed went Ramondre McLaurin and Kirk and I.

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Great. Fantastic. I know exactly who the pick is.

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You know who the pick is? I'm curious if I know who the pick is. There are two players in my mind that I'm paying attention to right here.

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Yeah.

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There you should know one of them.

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There's a few. One of them for you is going to be Calvin Ridley.

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Then that's what the pick is.

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That's. Let me just.

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My vote as well.

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Okay.

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And then I'm hopefully coming back with Kyler.

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Okay, maybe. But I was. Okay, the fact that we could take either Kyler or Burrow because Burroughs stacks with Jamar Chase.

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Okay.

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And I think that that would be wonderful here. That was kind of the tip from yesterday.

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Even a better situation because you can wait.

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And two of the three teams between us have quarterbacks, so even if they take Burrow, we go Kyler. If they take Kyler, we go Burrow.

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All I heard was drab Ridley, Calvin Ridley off the board at the six oh nine. Nice pick. Worthy Harris, Adunze, Pollard, Ingram, godwin. And now we've got a problem.

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Yeah, it's a good problem to have.

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Well, the. The bigger problem for me, honestly, are.

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There some, like rashi rice on the board?

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It's Rashid Rice.

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Yeah.

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Because at that spot where we just took Ridley, I would have been very happy, ADP wise, to get Rashid Rice on the squad there. The reason I didn't even approach it is because we had Pacheco, so it was, well, let's balance out with. Let's try and get the Tennessee offense, see if, if they have anything to give us, it will be from Calvin Ridley. But now that rice is back and then. And just push the quarterback spot back. Joe Burrow getting the.

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You know what? I'm. I'm on that side now.

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I think I would be great.

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But Jack is still there.

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Jordan love, Jaden Daniels. Yeah. Late. There are, there are other options. And because we went with Kenneth Walker, I feel like, you know, loading up on wide receiver and a three. Wide receiver. I'm going to be very happy with that. There's plenty of quarterbacks that are good later and maybe we could still do a stack with one of them.

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I. Oh, bye bye. We went with rice and then Moster went next, and then Burrow and Murray went back to back, so.

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And I think that, which I love.

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Because I know the Deucers were gonna take one of those two and they're all nodding profusely.

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We good?

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Literally, we're down to three guys. And it was those three guys.

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Oh, it was moster, Burrow and Murray.

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Yeah.

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Excellent.

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I love that. I mean, it worked out. Of course, sometimes playing the game, you lose, but with not taking rice at the six oh nine, like you, he still has the suspension words that that will be a looming factor, I think, for most of the season, unless you get an official report that everything of the court case has been. Everything's pushed back. If you get that, then you'll have the all clear. But him as the wide receiver for. Well, and then Ridley's the three. I mean, that, that worked out sensationally.

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All right, the Deucers back on the clock. I've given them so much time. There's no way that if I hand it over to them, one of them is not going to talk into a microphone. So who is the pick?

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That didn't feel like a lot of time, but I think we're going to go ahead and lean on my homerism and take Jordan love to stack with Jake.

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Wow. Okay. All right. Jordan Reed, your guy Jaden read. Jordan Love is a back end stack that I like putting together. So I don't mind that at all.

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I also think this is a. This is one of the reasons why it's really fun to do the draft the way that we're doing it, the three of us versus three of them. You know, we've talked so much about the ADP comparison tool. Different platforms, different systems. Jason talked about stacks like they could have gone a different quarterback. There were several by ADP that might have been higher, but they went with the guy that matched up with the player they just took. And you're going to see some, a lot of variation in your drafts exactly like that. So might have been a bit of surprise to, to Jason, but fit that fit the deucers desires.

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Yeah, I don't mind it at all.

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After Jordan, love went Zamir white, Brock Bowers absolute steal at 710. No, not really a steel, not really a steal, but I'm excited about him. Addison Moss, Deontay Johnson, Dakdin, who unfortunately, I was kind of eyeballing as a hopeful selection. Later, Hollywood Brown and Jalen Warren and the Deucers are back on the clock right now just to give you a lay of the land and give them a moment to decide. Still riding dirty with bries hall all alone, but then a lava debo and Amari Cooper and Jaden read at wideout. That's super strong. Trey McBride snagging him in the fourth and then Jordan love with the bag of money in the seven.

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One of the things I love is that, like, they loaded up and they've got four really good wide receivers and I like our wide receivers much more. And we have three awesome running backs. So good job, guys.

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We got there.

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Yeah. In the wise words that I tell my toilet doosers, eat it. Was that enough time?

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Yeah, we, we had enough time. We're going to go ahead and take our RB two here in the 8th round in Gervonta Williams.

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Okay.

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All right, that's, that's, that is a, that's a good hero RB pick when you get a guy who is going to have opportunity. And there is the, the narrative, the path of healing from that injury two years ago where maybe you're getting, you know, a top 15 running back in the later rounds. You got to take that shot. I don't, I don't agree with the bet. Like, I, I think they're going to be a really bad offense and he's going to be what he was last year. But it's. I probably would have taken the same running back here just for the potential.

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After Gervonta Eckler went, which is before Brian Robinson, who I thought looked is look good in preseason, is definitely the guy over Eckler to me. So Brian Robinson going behind Eckler is interesting. Chubb went off the board in McConkie just to give a lay of the land for our roster. We've taken three wideouts in the last four picks. There are five selections remaining and one's going to need to be a quarterback, one a tight end. Both feel like positions we could wait on right now because I would say our eyes are on golf. Daniels, the tight end room, which the.

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Teams between us and our next pick, two of them have a tight end, but we're down to David Najoku and Jake Ferguson as players were like happy.

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To write, I think in the 9th round, that's where those guys belong.

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And we say, do we wait one round and take.

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Absolutely. Because, because the, we don't expect both to go off here at this turn. So I wouldn't take a tight end here. And we, you discussed on the tips and trip tricks episode yesterday about those, you know, those like seven, 7th, 8th round tight ends don't usually work. You want to get a value. I like if we don't get one of those top guys, it needs to be a 9th round pick or later. So yeah.

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Here a couple of rookies, Keon Coleman and Brian Thomas on the board at running back. There's some starters, Devin Singletary and Brian Robinson along with Gus Edwards potentially. And then you mentioned wanting to see more Taj Spears that you can pay attention to down in the draft.

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This is, this is.

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Any other names we should be thinking about there?

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I, it's a tough scenario because I worded at a point now where I really like a lot of wide receivers of upside. Coleman. I'm still in on Christian Watson, Brian Thomas, Jackson Smith. And Jigba is like Jason, man. It's the, he is such a tough player of the, the excitement for him in his rookie year was through the roof. And you did not get, any of, you did not get anything back for, I mean, you, you bought it.

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He played, but he didn't come with the excitement.

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That thing was at 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. You hated what you were watching, but not necessarily his fault. So it's just you remembering, you know. Oh, I was, I was hot for Mario Cooper. Do we need to remember that? We were hot for Jason speaker two?

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Yeah. And I don't think we mentioned it in the news, but Tyler Lockett is dealing with a leg injury. Mike McDonald said, oh, come on.

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Let's see if you can do it.

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Mike MacDonald said that the issue isn't too serious, but we don't, we don't have a lot of information, but that is a path for Jason to rise.

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Yeah, I don't mind that pic. It'd be awesome if you had like a little index card that had four like McDonald's McDaniels pictures. You could just hold it up and say, which one you mean.

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That's what I cheat sheet because, like.

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A MC cheat sheet?

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A MC cheat sheet because between the Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald, the Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, and both the singer and actor Michael McDonald, my brain is.

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And you didn't even mention former offensive coordinator head coach Josh McDaniel.

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Don't do it.

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You didn't even mention a 20 piece chicken McNugget.

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It is sweet and sour.

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Some of us conflate coaches with chicken. Yeah. All right, so what do we want to do? Jason, you can take the pin.

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I'm in on one of those wide receivers.

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Yeah, I'm on the wide receiver side, too. I don't care which one. Thomas Jsn.

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When. When deciding. I'm taking. I'm taking a look at our current wide receivers. Jamar Chase, tank, Dell, Calvin Ridley, rushy rice. I think they're all really, really good. I want high upside. I think Jackson, Smith, and Jigba is a great pick. So that would be my selection.

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Jonathan Brooks goes next in Purdy Ferguson, Coleman, Hopkins, and Watson. Now, based on what Mike just said, guys, I lied. Well, no, I mean, I lied if.

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I. I wanted Jake Ferguson.

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Oh, you didn't want David Najoki? Okay.

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I see those guys as. As so similar. I don't mind them.

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You want to take Najoku here?

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Yeah, I think that makes sense. He's kind of the last one after him. You're punting all the way down to Pat Fryer muth, who would be my last pick. Like, my last round pick, and I'm fine with that. But I do think Njoku is. Is a tier above.

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All right, we're getting down to the end here. Singletary and Robinson and Edwards, the starters, back to back to back. Those are the only players I was really considering over Najoku. Just adding more depth to the running back room.

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Sure.

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But we took Najoku, and those guys went off the board. The Deucers were probably considering one of those three, as well. Is that true?

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Yep.

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You can't not. They can't hear you nod, Josh. I'm just.

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The camera was on because he's like.

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Is profusely nodding, sad nod.

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Because we wanted Gus Edwards right here, and he literally went the pick before it got to us. Well, then take Devin Singletary. No. Well, he's already gone, too. We're taking the upside guy, Taj Spears.

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Off the board for the Deucers, seeing some more quarterbacks go. Caleb Williams, Jameson Williams, Brian Thomas, Tua. And then starting the 10th round, Goddard, Benson, Sutton, Zeke Deucers back on the clock after the hot wide receiver run that they started the draft with, it's been love. Gervonta and Spears trying to fill in those back end running backs to accompany breeze hall. So you are back on the clock at 1005. You have all your position players. You can do what you want. We're going to go Chase Brown. Yeah, I like that. In fact, off the board at 712, I made a mental note to kind of keep chase brown tucked away.

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We ended up with doing good going drum solo or mara maracas.

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I will explain his dance. Also unable to be picked up on microphone.

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I can do it.

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Thank you, Mike Lawrence, Hawkinson and Goff went off the board. That was his Jaden Daniels dance.

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That is my J. Daniels dance. Yeah. I mean, when you look at the quarterbacks that we're drafting very, very, very late here on quarterbacks and you're just getting. You're getting, hopefully Kyler Murray, rookie season here when he was with Cliff Kingsbury finishes the quarterback seven. You know, he's an accurate passer, he's a great runner. He is a wonderful value. I would have taken him over Caleb Williams around before over Trevor Lawrence. I personally would have taken him over Jared Goff. Both good options. So, yeah, I love that we waited and got Najoku and Jaden Daniels in the 9th and 10th round while loading up on studs at running back and wide receivers.

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Had this been a live, you know, a live draft, which the computers sometimes get crazy with their second quarterbacks, if, if we could have waited this long, got Jaden and then Jared Goff on the way back out, I would have been all about that.

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Now, it is interesting, like, no consideration has been given to Justin Herbert, who is now drafted in the 11th round. And I just think that's worth a conversation because Caleb Lawrence, Goff and Daniels there is not. It's a decent chance Herbert is just fine and fine for fantasy.

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Could be. It's. I mean, it's the combination of not only the offensive concerns that we've had for the whole offseason, of knowing that the Chargers, while they should be a higher scoring offense there, it'll be very high tee combined with his injury pushing him down to here.

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All right, we're back on the clock after the Daniels pick. We can do what we want because we are. We've got our onesies taken care of. We're at five wide receivers on the roster. There are some names that are interesting at that position. You could, you know, Curtis Samuel with his opportunity in Buffalo, Adnan Mitchell seems to have an opportunity with injury in Indianapolis. Khalil Shakir.

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Where, where are you guys real quick on the Buffalo wider.

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I take Shakira over Samuel for upside.

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Because I have, I've been the offseason of Curtis Samuel. I'm trying not to let just one preseason thing completely sway, but it looks like it, it might be Shakir over and this is leaving Keyon Coleman out of the equation. I'm saying between Curtis and Shakir, I think I may have switched to. I'd prefer chasing after Shakir.

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He's got a higher yards per catch, which in this offense with the extension of the play. Sorry, Jason, that's why I would go with him. But Jason, what do you think?

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Yeah. Still very much in the belief that Curtis Samuel is better than, than Shakir will be more involved. However, the type of player that Curtis Samuel is doesn't really make sense for our roster. We're loaded at wide receiver now and we're looking for high, you know, potential. So, you know, Shakir makes probably more sense for our roster build than Curtis Samuel, who's just like a veteran plug and play. The one thing I'll point out, we only have three running backs, so there's.

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Still a starter available.

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There are studs. I'm curious who you think like a starter.

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A full start?

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Yeah. Chuba is the starting running back for Carolina. He was the running back, I believe, nine over the back half of the year.

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He's injured right now.

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Right this second he is, but they said it was not serious and Jonathan Brooks will not be playing to start the year. Just throwing that out there because to.

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Start the year, though, he wouldn't be in our lineup. That's where we've got a chan and Pacheco and Walker. So he's not going to crack our lineup until later. When Jonathan Brooks comes back later, you might see someone like Rico Dowdle. I know Mike's unbothered form is in the sense of taking over for a really high powered offense in the Cowboys. So, like, I would rather go that way for our build.

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Personally, I would be. Personally, I doubt it would be the guy, but it would go for me. It would go doubtle, JK Dobbins and then Chuba.

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Both of you disrespecting the chuba.

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I. It's everything jason said of this is I want a player.

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Jonathan Brooks is not going to go week five. He's not the full time running?

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No, but it's, it's after once he's back, is it just now a mess of multiple running back like all the.

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Other guys that you were saying?

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But I think that they.

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But for a bad offense that you're choosing between the Panthers or the Cowboys.

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I think that there's a chance for both Dowdle and Dobbins. By the time a couple weeks in the season have, have passed that one of them, you can tell they are.

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The guy for like to break it down. For the listeners here, it roster construction really matters for our team that has three stud running backs. I would much rather take a guy who could have something happen, break out later, you know, like a Rico Dowdle. If I was the Deucers team, I would prefer a chuba. I would, you know, you're looking at you pick up people later, but you need starters.

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Week one, well, they'll get their shot. I took down for you, Mike. And then Mitchell goes at 1105. Charbonnet, Curtis Samuel. With the Deucers back on the clock.

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And real quick to put a bow on that, the Carolina Panthers opening schedule is the Saints, the Chargers, the Raiders, the Bengals, the bears. Like this is, that's going to be tough for the running back.

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All right, Deucers, you've got two picks left. They went with clear secure.

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Okay?

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Friarmuth, Jacobi Komet and Mike Williams rounding out the second to last round. And then Joshua Palmer. I was going to bring his name up, but I did not. Chuba goes at 1202. Kirk Cousins, Kendra Miller and the Deucers have a final selection to add to their roster, which they will be doing in just a minute.

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Be with you in a moment, everybody.

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You can make the pick, Josh.

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This is why. This is why in school they make someone the leader of the group, right? Because if they all do it, no one does it.

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Not taking his pick, your pick. Oh, that's a good find.

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That's a really good pick.

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I like it. I would like to have this last pick.

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I don't care. Go ahead. Jalen Wright off the board. Aaron Rogers goes in this round. Dobbins is gone. Jason, you can, I'm going to take.

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A guy that we all believed in going into last year and no one believes in going into this year, but if Jaden Daniels has a great season and is a really good quarterback, which is our quarterback, and you're drafting for things, right?

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Don't, don't click it.

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I don't like it. Just hold on, hold on. It's Johan Dotson.

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Dotson did you see?

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He played too much preseason. We just way too much preseason to feel good about the. I was.

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I was actually more encouraged by what was happening in the preseason for Dotson. And then literally this morning, there was another report of Washington still looking for their wide receiver.

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It's not good, dude. It's not good.

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Like, that's. It's your pick, but I'm not last round pick.

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He played like the whole game or something.

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Your last round pick. You're hoping that, you know, week one immediately because the. Do I have something here or is this the guy I get to cut for the week one waiver? Superstars.

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Okay, well, I got to make the pick, so go ahead, Dontavian.

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Yeah.

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Okay, I'm in. I'm back in, baby.

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I love Dantavian Wicks. I. You know, when you're at the last round, scroll down, scroll down further and make sure that you're looking at all the names.

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All right, why don't you run our team back for the listeners, jason and one of the deucers that can play paper, rock, scissors d while you read it and figure out who's going to read their team.

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So at quarterback and tight end, we've got jaden daniels and david njoku. Happy with those late round options. At wide receiver, Jamar chase tank Dell, calvin Ridley, rushy Rice, JSN, and Dantavian Wicks loaded with six of those guys. And then at running back, Devon A. Chan, isaiah pacheco, Ken bone Walker, and rico Dowdle. I love our team.

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I like that team.

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Oh, yeah.

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All right.

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I like this team.

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Oh, is going to read the team back here?

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Yeah, I'll read it here. We got, excuse me, Jordan. Love throwing the football for us. Trey McBride. At tight end, we've got Brie Hall, Gervonta Williams, Tajay Spears, Chase Brown, and Jalen Wright at running back. And our wide receivers are Chris Olave, Debo Samuel Amari Cooper, Jalen Reed, Jaden Reed, and Khalil Shakir.

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