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Welcome in. That's the anesthesia? I guess. I felt fine. I don't know what that was.

It sounded fine. Sure.

It's a really good start.

Did you hit your Mute button along the way?

Possible on this side of the desk. Welcome in to the fantasy footballers. I heard that it was hotter than the devil's butt crack in here yesterday. It certainly was. I just noped out.

Nature's pocket.

I can't believe that you get to miss one show, and it was when the AC goes out.

Yeah, I was fighting, thought I thought, giving it a go yesterday, just got done with some dental surgery because that's my life now. Then I was like, I probably shouldn't do that. Then all of a sudden, these Slack messages come in and it's, The air conditioning is not working. And then our team scurrying onto the roof, saving the day. And then my expectations immediately, anytime I miss a show, it goes... I knew we had a new segment, which was awesome, the ready to roll segment, talking about the red zone opportunities, the change in defenses down there. Really enjoyable. Then I knew we had news to talk about. And then I knew you guys... It's a mock draft episode. And left to your own devices, I expected three, four, five-hour show. Yeah. You did pretty good. Then I get in here today, I'm like, I'm going to keep it tight. We got way too much to do today.

This is a massive show today. The fact that we're trying to get through as many wide receivers, we got as much news as we have, and we're going to be talking dynasty Wavers. It's a big episode.

I feel like I could talk news for the whole show. All that's going on with Brandon Ayuk will be brought up, discussed. Now that we're every day, we'll probably have news during the show. We could. We could have it after the show, but we get to talk about all the rumors and implications. I think the one thing not being talked about at all, Brock Purdy. How this affects Brock Purdy in the 49ers' offense if Brandon Ayuk departs, which is looking more and more likely. Jason mentioned it. We've got wide receiver rankings, countdown on the show today, 20 through 11 on our consensus rankings, and then 10 through 1 tomorrow. The Interfall news we just mentioned, and we've got a WaverWire edition today to get into. I mentioned it at the top, the ultimate draft kit. You can get in there right now. Lots of updates over the last week. A lot of players to be thinking about as these initial depth charts come out For some teams, it matters. For some teams, you hope it doesn't matter. Jason mentioned today, Bo Nix.

Quarterback three.

Behind Zack Wilson on the depth chart.

Listen to that again. Behind Zack Wilson.

That one makes 100% with the coaching staff. Sean Payton.

Yeah, I know.

It's like- Very, to earn it. He's going to earn it.

He did. Didn't I tell you- He did earn it. You drafted him in the first round.

Is this all private where I tell you Sean Payton sucks, or has it been public?

I think that's been mostly private. I don't think you said that on the show. You and I have a vast disagreement on that, but you You don't like that dude.

I think he's Dennis Allen with a ring. You know what I mean? I think he sucks.

I think when you get- And on Netflix movie.

Even that existing tells me what that man thinks about his career.

The dude was overseeing a team that people on his coaching staff, maybe Payton was not involved, but people under his coaching staff were offering money to players to hurt other NFL players. He gets He's been suspended for a year. For a year. And then they're like, Hey, let's turn this into a feel good movie here.

And cast it very interestingly.

Why isn't he coaching at the NFL? Don't worry about that. He's helping out a bunch of ragtag kids right now.

I know people like Sean Payton. I do. But Drew Brees is, in my opinion, the reason Sean Payton is so heralded. And Sean Payton has... Some people sniff their own farts. He's got a fart room, dude. He saves them for years. He goes in there nightly to take a whip.

It's air tight. Nothing escapes that room.

It's pressurized because he just keeps adding to it. He goes in that room, adds a little bit of air.

Yeah. No, Sean Payton was the Saints head coach from 2006 through 2021. Brees played for the Saints from 2006 to 2020. I guess Payton on blast today.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it. If I'm Sean Payton, and I lost my whole team, you get out. Oh, guys, it's rough. I need a break.

I need a break. I'll be back. I don't like him. Hey, it's opinions. You know what I mean? Let's jump into our new segment Today.

Welcome to the WaverWire, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

Well, we're kicking off the WaverWire segment early here in August before kickoff because- Because it's still open. It really is. Leading up to kick off, you've got a lot of battles in training camp. You've got a lot of dynasty decisions to make. In fact, I am often annoyed at the astuteness of, of course, Al Borland in our dynasty League to constantly be making little tweaks and little pickups, all of his own devices.

And by that, you mean Kyle? Yes.

His co-manager who leads the way.

Yes, I do. Yeah, this This is interesting. We're going to be talking about a lot of the... Today, specifically, some of the runningbacks you should pay attention to in dynasty Leagues that still might be on the waivers. Also, we have our dynasty show that comes out on Wednesdays. We're going to be talking about the Nasty Boys of Summer on tomorrow's episode. If you want more of this, you'll get that tomorrow. But today, we're specifically looking about the insurance running back options out there in dynasty Leagues. Last year, if you don't remember, Kyren Williams, he was the backup.

That's a backup, yeah.

Yeah, it was Kam Akers. It was Kam Akers who was the guy, and Kyren is nothing. Then in week one, Kam Akers saw 22 opportunities. So it was like, Yeah, this is Cam Akers. Then he never saw another snap. Kyren became a revelation. So can we find this year's Kyren Williams?

Yeah, players that have carved out roles in training camp and have an opportunity there. We're looking at, from a waiver wire perspective, insurance running back changes.

I had no memory of Akers getting that much work. Because week one, Kyren was awesome for fantasy football, but yeah, Kam Akers said 22 attempts for 29 yards.

He has 1.3.

Yards of carry. Kyle, you should dig up Kam Akers' ADP last year because he was-Oh, I think he was a dead zone running back.

So four to six or something.

But there was a period of time of great excitement for Kam makers and the potential because you know what the system does. But there are other situations out there worth paying attention to. We're going to bring up a handful of running back names, Jason. You want to kick us off with one of them? Yeah. The Waver Wire segment.

Yeah. If you were watching the Hard Knocks New York Giants, they have a little segment on Tyrone Tracy Jr, rookie running back for the Giants. Really hit that. The Giants.

Oh, that's the end of his That sounded like his class in school.

Yeah. He's a junior for the New York Giants. Tyrone Tracy, a junior? He was a fifth-round pick, 166th overall, and he's an older prospect. They talked about this on that episode. They discussed the fact that they saw that almost as a positive because they knew he would go later in the draft. He's got more experience. He played six seasons in college. Not many players get to say that. He was a former wide receiver turned into a running back. So some of these things that were-We like that, usually. We do. I mean, Antonio Gibson was a wide receiver turn.

It was also DJ. Wasn't David Johnson a wide receiver at some point?

Yes, David Johnson was a wide receiver turned running back. So this is the type of depth chart where last episode, I took Devin Singletary because it was like, there's no one there. It has to be Devin Singletary. But also, that means if Devin Singletary gets injured or he's just not that good- Or Tracy just carves out a third down roll.

That's what I see here is it's like Singletary's history, we can say how well he played at the end of last year. He did not start the season as a starter. He's been beaten out by Zack Moss in Buffalo to be a starter.

What? I was just left on... I was on solo camp for a long time while you were talking. I'm like, Why the camera on me.

I got to- Midseason form back there.

Yeah, put Deucer's alley on there and raise your hand if your name is Papa Josh.

You can hit that button because they won't do it.

All right, there you go.

That one's on Papa Josh?

Yeah.

The podcast listeners are fine.

He's probably putting in a waiver claim right now.

Yeah, he's distracted.

But no, Tracy has the opportunity to carve out a role. Honestly, if he took third downs away from Singletary, that would impact your hopes and dreams for Singletary. But there's a couple other names mentioning as well. Dineric Prince, Mike.

Yeah.

Kansas City, Running Back. There's no Jerrord McKinnon in the picture right now. Dineric Prince was a former undrafted free agent.

He sure was. He's a speedster. Yeah, 4'4'1, but he ran that at... He's 6'2, 216 pounds, in which 2'15, honestly, to me, that's the running back weight. If you get an elite player at that weight, it just seems to be the perfect match. And he has been running. Clyde Edwards-Aleria came back, former first-round pick, and the presumption would be, Well, okay, well, Clyde will come back. He will be Pacheco's backup. That has not been the case, at least so far in training camp, it has been Prince, and Clyde Edwards-Aleria has been running with the second team where Prince is getting run with the ones. So he looks like he will be the back. I think Pacheco is going to be a true workhorse running I do, too. So this is strictly an insurance policy, but this is a big time insurance policy.

You need an insurance policy on someone that runs the way that Isiah Pacheco runs. I mean, he is- Sometimes the ground pushes back. He is the cartoon into the wall. He's a brutal runner He's seen that. Shoulder labrum tear in 2022, a hand finger fracture in '23, another shoulder injury, missed two games in '23, a head cranial concussion, Grade 1. If you What? I'm just reading the- Head cranial?

Come on, man.

Just say concussion. I was just reading. I'm Ron Burgundy.

Here's the thing about Kansas City, which is one of the reasons we love Andy Reid, is because he will play the best players. Izea Pacheco was not... I think there were other teams that if Andy Reid is not the head coach, Clyde gets a lot longer run because of the draft capital invested. So they made the decision at one point in time to say, Hey, Pacheco, you're going to You're just going to usurp this guy that we spent a first-round draft pick that Patrick Mahomes loved. And so that's not to say that I think Prince would usurp Pacheco. It's just to say that it's not a surprise to me on this roster that he's going to have more opportunities than he would on another roster despite Clyde being there.

People need to take this approach more. Like, head coaches- Play the better players? Play the better... Look at Brock Purdy. You know what I mean? Brock Purdy was the last pick in the draft where they had spent a ton of capital on Trey Lance, and they're just like, Yeah, but he's better. That guy's better. I mean, Kirk Cousins, back in the day, getting to, obviously, an injury to RG3, started it, but then it was like, He's good. He's a good quarterback. If you're a good player and you're showing out in camp, just be allowed to start.

This is the most basic, common sense type of- Yeah, but just the other side is, it's just the other It's not as easy as that because the criticism that you will get by going with... If that player doesn't- It's some cost fallacy.

If they don't have immediate success, which Brock Purdy had immediate success, so it's an easier transition. But if you're seeing things in practice that, Oh, this is the player who should go out, but this is the player who was picked to go out, there's a lot of public stuff out there that it is. Some coaches can handle it, and some coaches are Their seat at the table is not secure enough that it's hard to. If you go to the owner and say, Well, we evaluated the process, and this seventh-round pick is going to be the guy to go in, your owner can get real big mad at you.

I'm going to close this out real quick, just throwing two names. Jordan Mason. Pay attention to Jordan Mason in San Francisco. This is a big one. In San Francisco, just because they've been so committed to Elijah Mitchell as the backup. But recently, Kyle Shanaans talked about the fact that even though there's no Call off in Elijah, JP is running at a high level. We know Elijah Mitchell gets hurt all the time, and that is a high-value running game. And then Isaac Guarindo is really out of the picture at this point in time due to injury and the depth chart. In fact, I spent a decent amount of offseason fab securing Isaac Guarindo. It's just depending on your roster and what's out there on the waiver wire. I am sitting there in the sunk cost fallacy with Guarindo going, Well, I spent some offseason fab, but this guy is easily fourth on the depth chart. It's not a depth chart that I'm expecting to get. I don't know. It's a tough one. It's just a tough one. Then Trey Sermon, former 49er running back.

Who I spent a lot of capital on.

Yeah, A long time ago. But Trey Sermon in Indianapolis looks like the backup to Jonathan Taylor, who's dealt with injury concerns.

Yeah, he's the clear number two there. They lost Zack Moss, who obviously had great success last year. They didn't go out and draft runningbacks. They didn't really replace anybody. And Trey Sermon has that job. So when you're in a dynasty League, those guys shouldn't be on waivers. The backup runningback shouldn't be on waivers because when an injury happens, you should be looking at which roster was smart. And it's usually Brooks. Brooks? With the backup running backs. Is that his thing? He hordes the backup running backs. Yes. Every time it's like, Oh, yes. Let me go to the waiver wire. This injury. It's like,.

And then it's title after title after title after title.

For you and I, but no, Brooks has zero.

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All right. Are you not entertained?

Here we go.

If you're not following the saga of Brandon Ayuk on Twitter, well, welcome to the saga because this is a fun time.

Well, the teams, they are circling. Brandon Iyuk has been given permission to negotiate new contracts. There are frameworks already agreed upon. This is all official reports that Brandon Ayuk has, rather the 49ers. The teams have agreed on compensation. Yes, the 49ers have a framework of the compensation for a trade with both the Patriots and Browns, which is wild. Cleveland's deal, if Ayuk were to agree to a contract with Cleveland would likely send Amari Cooper- It feels like it has to. Just- To San Francisco.

Just cap-wise. Why I've been so much on the side of, I don't think they trade Brandon Iyuk is because it doesn't make sense of if this team loses Brandon Iyuk, not that they don't have weapons.

Oh, it's damaging.

It's like your offense takes a huge hit, and you're trying to win the Super Bowl this year. You control Brandon Iyuk's future. Why would you just trade him away? But if you're making a move and you're getting Amari Cooper back, which his... Kyle, he pulled up his contract because Cooper did just get a little bit more money, but his contract will be far more manageable than Brandon Ayuk.

He didn't get more years. He just got more money.

Okay, more money. Cooper, I think Brandon Ayuk at this point is a better wide receiver, but it's still, if you get Amari Cooper and Debo, you're still in a very good place. So this trade makes total sense to me should Brandon Ayouk green light whatever contract Cleveland's offering.

It makes sense for the 49ers, I can't imagine being a team. If I'm the Browns, I'm not talking about the Brown. I'm talking about the 49ers. If I want to bring Ayouk in, I'm like, Oh, dude, we've got Amari Cooper and Najoku. If we bring Brandon and Ayuk in, we can really have a rock solid offense. But it's trading. I don't think that Brandon Ayuk is so much better than Amari Cooper, that it's also worth compensation because you're getting rid of draft picks to do this deal, more money, and then you're just replacing your wide receiver one with maybe a better wide receiver one. Obviously, a more youthful long-term wide receiver one. But this isn't a long-term move if you're giving away draft picks. On that side, it makes no sense to me. Oh, wait.

Well, Cooper would be gone.

Yeah, Cooper is a free agent next year.

To me, I'd rather have Brandon Ayuk, Dinamari Cooper, if I'm the brown. Yes. It's an investment in your long-term alpha. They spent the offseason money on Judy, who they believe in. You want to talk about Dynasty WaverWire buzz. Cedric Tillman has been the star of camp. Sure. I think they feel okay about that room. But you talk about other teams, commanders with Jane Daniels. You've seen those calls and the rumors with Brandon Ayuk. The Steelers have been involved. We don't have word that there's trade packages figured out there for compensation. But Brandon Ayuk will dictate some of this because he's going to tell these teams what contract he's going to agree with. New England would be sending Kendrick Bourne, whatever. New England is, I think, the place that is a little bit terrifying for Mike. I feel like Mike has single-handedly responsible for Iuk's trade not being completed yet. Because every time- Because they're offering me crap. Offering you. Yeah. Me, personally, my dynasty squad. I feel like Mike is the ghost in Iuk's head, just not letting him feel comfortable with any of these trade destinations because you just invested in Iuk and dynasty.

When you hear those four team names, if you are out there and you're thinking about Brandon Ayouk long term, where does the terror begin? If he goes to Pittsburgh- Sure.

Let's run through him.

If he goes to Pittsburgh- I'm off the show.

That's terrible. I don't think so. You don't think that's terrible? I'm deceased.

Well, it's not good.

There is not enough in Pittsburgh to go around with... I think George Pickens is good. I think Brandon Ayuk is better, but with what that team will want to be, I don't know that there's enough to have both of them come through.

It'd be really good for the Justin Fields as the starter world. Oh, yeah. Because if he has Pickens, and Ayuk, and Freier-Muth, and Jalen Morin, and then he's running the football. I mean, if Justin Fields... We have not talked about this enough. If Justin Fields wins this job, which is becoming... Russell can't play right now. If he wins this job, because there's a report right now from Brooklyn prior from ESPN talking about it being more of a competition than initially appeared. If he wins that job, I just want to make it so incredibly clear that Justin Fields goes from being an irrelevant player on draft day to potentially more relevant than, in my opinion, even Anthony Richardson.

To a league winner, to an absolute league winner.

To an absolute league winner. To an absolute league winner.

I mean, we've talked about how Anthony Richardson in the fifth, Kyler Murray in the seventh, 10th round, Jaden Daniels. I mean, you add in the mobility of Justin Fields. This is, again, why I think fantasy scoring is broken, and it's stupid that someone like Justin Fields, who might be able to this version of Russell Wilson, probably not, but maybe he's got a shot since Russell Wilson's got a calf strain, could come out and just win everybody fantasy football league because he runs so well and has some weapons.

43% of his fantasy points, talking about Justin Fields. 43% in his career have come from rushing.

And the truth is- And he outscores almost everybody. Top five, he could be the number one quarterback.

I don't think that that is impossible. No, it's insane. I really don't. Not with big play guys like Ayouk and Pickens. They made plays with really bad quarterback play already last year.

Yeah, so did DJ Moore with really bad quarterback play from Justin Fields.

To lay it out for fantasy, honestly, let's say, and I'm going to take Justin Fields out of the equation. Just this year, if he goes to Cleveland and Amari Cooper goes back, I think that Brandon Ayuk will still be good. If you believed in Amari Cooper for fantasy this year, you should believe at least least equally in Brandon Ayuk if he's the only guy in Cleveland. I think that he'll still be a top 20 guy with a chance that with the investment of picks and money, they go all in, and he becomes a true target dominator. Going to New England, that really, really sucks for this year. Long term, if Drake May hits, that could turn into a huge win, but this year it would be terrible. Same in Then Steelers is, I think, even long term is not great.

All right. We'll be paying attention with baited breath. If Cooper doesn't go back to San Francisco, it doesn't help Brock Purdy. It might help your George Kittle like you guys were talking about, but it's not going to... You know, purdy, you want the weapons.

It's really funny. I'm glad you brought that up because I've thought a lot about Debo to the moon and George Kittle, even above, Kincaid definitely being in those top five. To the stars. I would say the further one is Debo. The stars, yeah. Yeah, Debo to the stars. The moon is pretty close, relatively. Kittle to the moon. All right, I think that's fair.

Kittle to the satellites.

Like Starlink? I don't know, man. That's low orbit, man.

We got to get out the outer orbit.

We're going to go to the high orbit, old school.

Like the asteroid belt, at least.

Where's the Tesla? Isn't there a Tesla in orbit? Which orbit's that?

You're talking about a car.

Yeah, they launched a Model S.

They did do that at one point.

It's in orbit right now. But to bring it back home, I've been excited. I've been excited about- Bring it back to Earth. Yes.

What a random poll.

Debo and Kittle are so exciting if the targets go away from Brandon Ayuk. The numbers when Debo is on the field without Ayuk, they're outlandish. His yards per out run and stuff is just mind boggling. But it's a real hit. It is a very big downgrade for Brock Purdy, who's a pocket passer. If you don't have the extra deep threat, the big play, touch downs available as readily.

Then, go ahead.

George Kittle has averaged nearly eight targets a game when Ayouk is out.

All right. We also have a quick Jordan-Adison update. We won't linger too long, but he's been charged with two misdemeanors for his July DUI arrest. Three-game suspension is the NFL standard DUI policy. It could end up more. He has a hearing on October seventh.

It'll be very up in the air. Does that get pushed? Does he get a mid-season suspension? But expect at some point this year or next year, Jordan Edison will get at least a three-game suspension.

All right, that was today's News & Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa. Com/insurance. We'll take a break and come back with our wide receiver rankings countdown. All right, just checking in. We don't have more Brandon Ayuk news yet, right?

Nothing yet.

No more rumors? We're keeping our eyes up. Is Ayuk tantalizing anything on what's the social media status of Ayuk? Yeah, have Emojis out there? Has he been switching any of his pictures?

Yeah. Is he wearing another jersey?

What's the colors of his most recent picture? I'm on it. Yeah. Take a deep research here. In the meantime, let's begin.

Wide Receivers.

All right. It is time to look at our half PPR rankings at the wide receiver position. Okay.

I see his last one is a picture of him against the Lions. So maybe the lions are in play. Just throwing that out there.

Or lions have mains, maybe his main team that he wants to go to.

Oh, I thought you were He's going to New England.

I don't know. Let me know where he goes someday. Okay. All right. We are looking at our 20 through 11 today, and this will be fun. There's some discrepancy quite a bit, actually, starting at number 20 with Drake London. I've got him at 20 on the dot. That's where he ended up in our consensus because Jason's got him at 12, Mike at 26. He's 23 years old.

I hate my ranking. I'm just letting you know that.

You are morally opposed?

It's just that's where he fell in the projections, and it's not a gigantic gap point-wise between him and, say, where Andy has him at 20. The upside is not... That's why we have an upside meter in the UDK, because that is not reflected in my median projections.

Yeah, we're sitting in this stage with Greg London of excitement for the future, fear of a Garrett Wilson style let down from last year, where you came in with expectations that weren't delivered on because you haven't had it. Then you don't want him to become that perennial old McLaurin DJ more of days of old. I think there's some fear, and I think that there's going to be a big variety of rankings on Drake London. I think that some people hearing Jason at 12 might say it's a little aggressive, but I think there's other people that are going to say that's right where he belongs.

Eighty-piece He says that that's low.

Yeah.

Yeah. I will say that he is scary to rank there because he hasn't done it yet. Obviously, that's difficult. But when you look at the trifecta of the Garrett Wilson Drake London, Chris Olave trio that was drafted together. They have looked great on the NFL field. They've done some stuff. There's a lot of excitement for them. You have to say, Well, what about the quarterback situation? I believe Drake London has the best quarterback of the three today. Now, Achilles' injuries are coming back from them, maybe he's not the same. Obviously, that's true for Garrett Wilson's quarterback as well, and Aaron Rodgers. A lot of people will be like, Wait, you think Cousins is better than Aaron Rodgers. I do at this point. I think the 40-year-old version of Aaron Rodgers is not going to be as good as Kirk Cousins. But if Kirk Cousins, if Drake London is very good at playing wide receiver, which he has looked on the metrics that matter, the yards per route run. In his career, he's 2.47 yards per route run in three wide receiver sets. That number is outstanding. If Kirk Cousins still has it, how does Drake London not finish in the top 15 or as a wide receiver one?

He absolutely should.

There's questions about- It's just scary. Yeah, and you have some Jack-of-all-trades players on this roster. Kyle Pitz is an athlete that can be lined up and run down the field. B. John Robinson, especially with Tyler Algeo there. Robinson can be used in the passing game tremendously, obviously. Mooney was an addition. Then There's questions about how a new look offense is going to succeed under Zack Robinson. All those things factor into the variability, but he sits at 20 in our rankings with upside. That's factored in without question. The talent is there. If you guaranteed me targets, my ranking changes. If you can guarantee me enough targets.

I don't know how you cannot guarantee that. That's what I don't get. This is the Ram system coming over that plays at a faster pace, three wide receiver sets, throws a ball a lot, and he's such an alpha within this. I'll grant you that Kyle Pitz and Béjan are going to be very involved, but that's a tight end and running back. In the wide receiver room, which is the primary target- Well, I mean, the last two years, 117 targets, 110 targets. Arthur Smith running the ball nonstop.

I guarantee you a conversation has been had of how How do you not get... Look at this guy. He's the alpha. There's nobody else. How do you not get Drake in the football? I don't fall into the, Every new offensive coordinator is amazing, and it always works out. That's all I'm saying. There's a prove it aspect to this season for Drake. Because we all said if Terry McLaren got 160 targets, he'd be fine. We all said these players should be getting them.

Right. We waited for years for the DJ more breakout as well.

Took a long time.

But this season, you're going to have to go in early and make your claim for it. And honestly, I know I'm sitting here saying he should get the targets. Everything should work out. I'm terrified when I'm on the clock and he's the highest ADP and he's the next highest in my rankings. I often still don't take him because it's hard when you're going into year three and you're saying, Please break out.

I mean, you have to draft him to be your one.

You have to, pretty much.

That's where we were with Garrett Wilson, and it didn't work out for people last year, so there's a little bit of a fear. I'll tell you right now, I just looked left at the back wall, trying to see the clock for the show.

Is it back there?

It is not, but 1,200 shows told it would be. For those listening at home, Mike and I are swapping spots again due to my grotesque appearance.

Which I'm looking at it. I don't know why we didn't take into account my feelings.

No, I mean, it's disrupting to the show in every regard.

It's Jairos.

How does that feel?

It feels good. It feels real good. There's nothing I could do. 19 is Brandon Ayuk. We just talked extensively about him. The ranks are going to jump all over the place based on the trade destination. Right now, he's at 19. I've got him at 16, Mike at 17, Jason at 22. This was the most efficient wide receiver last year. Big play guy. We talked about if he stayed in San Francisco, some of the pitfalls of matching those efficiency numbers again because of fancy points per target were so incredibly high and the big plays. But this is a hyper talented player about to get paid, it seems like, by another team, and these rankings, they're just going to move.

Yeah. Tbd on what his target market share will look like and who his quarterback is.

I I ask you every... I won't ask each of you this question, but Jason, real quick, you have me at 22. Is that factoring in trade rumors?

No, not at all. That was as a nineer.

Then if I say a team name, I just want you to say where you think he'll end up when you restate him. Okay. I know it's not going to be fun, but you're going to do it anyway. New England.

26.

Pittsburgh.

25.

Cleveland.

18.

So he goes up from San Francisco then.

That's- Four spots. That's presuming Amari Cooper leaves, yeah.

Okay. Washington.

20.

Okay. All right. Just off the top of the dome. Devante Smith at I don't know why you hate him, Jason.

How do we have Smith ranked higher than you?

I don't know. I've got to go look a little deeper because I am all in on Devante Smith this year. I love him. I think he's going to have Awesome. Honestly, here's how you guys are higher.

Here's how you guys are higher.

Just our numbers, where they're higher numbers. You guys are brilliant smart people.

You're brilliant smart people, and you have him where he's going to He's finished. You've got him at 15, Andy, and I need to adjust them up.

No, higher stat numbers now. Higher stats. Yes. That's what I meant. Devante Smith, I don't know if you saw that little Hype moment this morning of Jalen Hertz completing 88 consecutive practice. Practice passes without an interception, which was exciting. It's exciting to hear that with a new offensive mind coming in there. But the storyline Devante Smith, finished at wide receiver 20 last year, missed the game, wide receiver 10 the year before. Mike has talked so much this offseason about Jalen Waddle and the fact that Jalen Waddle, he took a little step back last year after being the wide receiver seven. Mike expects him to come back to four. Very similar to me with Devante Smith. These two were darlings in last year's draft season. I think part of the narrative was like, They got to deliver now on this new promotion And neither of them were able to do that. But this was the wide receiver 10 in 2022. So Jason, even though you hate him, why do you love him?

I love him because the Eagles offense was so hard to watch last year. It really was. We saw it from the beginning of the year, even when they were having success. We commented on it. This isn't revisionist history where we're saying, Oh, things weren't good last year. Their offense was bland and boring, and it worked in the beginning of the year because they have immense talent because A. J. Brown and Devante Smith are just awesome. Jalen Hertz is a super capable quarterback that with his dual threat ability, it's tough as a defense. However, they didn't put men in motion. It was around 10% of the time, man in motion. It was the lowest in the NFL. Kelen Moore, I know we've had debates. Is he great? Is he not great? Whatever. He's been successful offensively for a couple of years in a row. Keenan Allen last year was Phenomenal with Kelen Moore. Ceedee Lamb was good with Kelen Moore two years ago. And so Kelen Moore coming over, he might not be the greatest thing since slice bread, but I know he's not a bad offensive coordinator. I know he can get the job done, and I know he's got a great amount of talent.

So I'm in on the Eagles's offense this season. I really do expect it to be closer to what it was two years ago than last year. And Devante Smith coming into his own as a great wide receiver who can be used in the slot a little bit more, put in motion a little bit more.

Let me talk about that for a second, because when you put a player in motion, you give them an advantage. Yes. When you see players that are extremely talented prolific wide receivers, and you put them in motion, Arizona would do this with Larry sometimes. Ceedee Lamb, we've seen do that recently. What do I mean?

Tyreek.

Tyreek is always moving.

Which they have... Did you guys see that they're at least trying? A focus for the refs will be what they're calling a cheating motion or something like that. Upfield? Where- Arena ball? If you're watching the game, it definitely happens of Tyreek will be running laterally, and he'll turn upfield just before the snap. You're like, How are we not calling this a penalty? It certainly is. We'll see if that affects anything.

You should be able to keep your torso straight and your bottom half can move. That'd be really fun to watch.

So you're facing?

As long as your torso is facing horizontal, you can turn your legs. That's what I'm saying.

Can we make it just the helmet? You know what I mean?

Because that's- Oh, that's even better.

A little bit easier. So you could be running forward, but you got to be looking back. But yes, it sets people up for an advantage. This is something that I expect both A. J. Brown and Devante Smith to be moved around more. You have the Eagles cornerback, Devante Maddox, said he noticed the Eagles wide receiver's lining up at different spots more often, said he's seen more Devante Smith in the slot than he's used to seeing. Devante Smith, in college in Alabama, was an unbelievable player in the slot, 5.4 or 2.5 yards per route run during his Heisman year from the slot.

All right, Smith at 18, 17. D. K. Metcalf coming in. He's one of those players where, Jason, your ranking is extremely high compared to Mike and I, but his ADP to me is basically his floor. Mike and I have him ranked at his ADP right now. But when you look at a... You talk about an inverse Drake London situation in your draft, which is Drake London, you're forced into him being a wide receiver one. You're having to make a bet that has to pay off. Whereas Metcalf, I feel like if you draft him in ADP, you might be drafting a wide receiver one.

Where it says ADP, wide receiver, what?

Twenty-two. Okay. I mean, he is a- He's never finished that low since his rookie year.

Yes. Which- Wide receiver 7, wide receiver, seven, wide receiver, 12, wide receiver, 18, wide receiver, 16. Last year I think the group memory of Seattle, it was bad. They did not come through for fantasy football, and yet he was the wide receiver 16 in 16 games played.

I did I have a little fear with the Gino Smith injury news. He is back at practice, but it would mean something if he was not there. Metcalf is one of the value picks of the year.

He's in the UK as such. Yes, he's a value.

He is there from a physicality, you look at the red zone report in the UDK. He was one of the leaders in red zone targets, not necessarily completing them all into touch downs, but those numbers come back to form.

Yeah, and You look at Marvin Elquin, one of our great writers, he did this study on what season each position peaks. Historically, year five and six, compared to others, have the highest ceiling for fantasy points at wide receiver. This is D. K. Going into year six. This is a player in his prime. Also, the Ryan Grub offense coming from the University of Washington, that was the one that featured Roma Dunzé so well. The comps aren't just like me saying it. Ryan Grub has literally talked about the similarities between having one of those Dunzé-like players in D. K. Metcalf. So I think we can be confident that he's the center number one piece of the offense, and we know the talent. So to me, wide receiver 10, that's pretty high. That's going to be touch downs. If he gets the touch downs, he can finish there. If he doesn't, he won't. But he gets so much red zone work, and he's got the body for it, and he's done it before, and he's being drafted as a wide receiver He's a layup to me at ADP right now.

The big challenge was last year, you only had 6% great games as we defined them in the consistency charts. Out of his eight touch downs, three came in that Dallas game. Then you're talking about breaking up 15 weeks with five touch downs. So yes, it is going to come down to touch downs and some more consistency if you're happy with that pick. But he's capable and set up to do it, and your confidence in grub leans that direction. At number 16, Cooper Cupp is sitting at 16. His ADP right now is the wide receiver 23. He's sitting there for now. I am worried about the ADP, just jettisoning jettisoning?

Jettisoning. Jettisoning. Jettisciing.

Jettisciinal?

Jettisonally rising.

There he is. Jettisonally rising. There he is. Yes, thank you.

Because we do this, and we definitely do this with players that have been multi-time top receiver in the game. At his current wide receiver 23, I'm all over it. I want Cooper Cup on every team. The The Puca Panic is interesting because he's hurt. He's weak to weak right now with a knee injury. There's been reports out of camp that the offense is running through Cooper Cup already. He's on a mission. He's back to full health. You can be all those things and be 31 and still get hurt, right? Sure. However, if you go back and you look at the history of Puca Nakuja, he has struggled with injuries as well. Yeah. And so those injuries struggles going back to high school and college, they're hanging out there as maybe Cooper Cup can be the guy this entire year. The defense looks like it has weakened for the Rams, more throwing the football. Mcvay knows how to get the ball to Cooper Cup. We've seen this. The recipe is out there. They've cooked the dish, and it's delicious when it's made right.

We've spent some time lately talking about, Is this just a situation? We're all excited for Puka. I don't think that's okay. You be excited for Koopa, or Koopa Troopa. Yeah, don't be excited for Cooper. That's a bad tortoise. But we were like, At the end of the year, are we going to look back and go, Oh, yeah, Cooper Cup is very good at football, and he has a very strong connection with Matthew Stafford, and these guys are still here. And are we letting the excitement for one player diminish our excitement for another guy, which we should be excited for both of them. And it's like, and Pukha has been up here at the one, two turn, and Cooper Cupp has been like a late three or a fourth round guy. And it's just it's inbalanced. It shouldn't be there.

I don't believe that a healthy Puka Nakuwa is a better player than a healthy Cooper Cupp today.

Okay.

I don't know if I believe that or not. I really don't. It's tough because obviously, Cooper Cupp, his pinnacle is as an all-timer. He's a Triple Crown winner. He's done things that very few other wide receivers have ever done. But man alive, Puka is so physical, so I mean, as a rookie coming on and doing what he did, I think they're about even.

When you look at the decision, Mike, of staring down the Drake London Cooper Cup and who you want to slot in as a wide receiver one for how you're constructing your roster?

Oh, my goodness.

That's a good question.

Because those guys, I mean, you're going to have to draft London. We're doing real well. Morning recordings are going good. I'm staring at the back wall No.

Talk about King Cooper.

Yeah. I mean, obviously, these two players could be much closer in ADP by the time draft day hits, is all I'm saying.

They definitely will. I think they will be. They 100 % will be.

And we're not helping the case today.

I'm really hoping Pukas slides, though. Sure.

Yeah, that could happen.

Because I like Puka.

But what's your...

Where do I want to take him?

No, what's your things to remember going into the... I know.

Don't buy the injury dip. Don't buy the injury dip. It never works.

When they're hurt going into the beginning of the season, we've been here with Cooper. Ironically, Cooper Cup was that guy, right? And then he ended up what, missing five weeks?

Yeah.

To start the year? And then Puka took over. Last year, he got put on the IRR.

Could you imagine? Play this out. Puka should be fine. That's what it's told. It's a week-to-week thing. It's not serious. He should be fine. That's the assumption. Let's just say week one, just week one, Puka misses. If Puka misses week one, Cooper Cup is going to be the best draft pick out Detroit. Cooper Cup is going to have a billion fantasy points week one. His value will never be higher.

Well, he plays Arizona week two, so it could be… It might be even higher on Week 2, man.

All right, Jalen Waddle at 15, Mike.

You're moving them up right now, Jay.

I want to keep him where he is. Let him be there on draft day.

Waddle at 15? Yes. Mike, you're the highest of the three of us right now. Our consensus rank is 15. You talked him up on the Ice and Fire episode. If you want to hear a huge Waddle breakdown, you can go listen to the Ice Fire show. That was a fun one.

You should listen to it because it was good.

Yeah, really, I'm not going to do-The episode, not Mike's take.

Well, thank you. Yeah.

I'm not going to do the entire breakdown here, but the condensed version is essentially these two players, talking about Tyreek and Jalen Waddle, they have already had success together, where Jalen Waddle was the wide receiver seven in 2022. So this is not a both guys can't eat in this offense. Yes, they can. Tua led the league last year in passing yards. He's going to contend to lead the league again in passing yards. And yeah, Tyreek has a lot to do with it, but so does Jalen Waddle, who is absolutely... Jay, you just talked about we're looking for players who can beat zone. Jalen Waddle dominates at that part of that aspect of offense. Last year, it was just really bad injury luck. Not only just missing games, but getting hurt mid-game, five He's riding through it, and I think that he can easily bounce back. And the ADP this year is nowhere close to the risk that you invested last year.

The price is what... Yeah, last year, I did draft him as a top 10 wide receiver. There's still an aspect to Waddle's game. I'm the lowest of the three of us. That reminds me of pick-ins last year, where if you get that big play, you're like, This is one of the best players in the game, and you're going to win me a week. But if you don't get it, that's the concern.

Which I get that. It is just, to me, the player Jalen Waddle, what we've seen now over- Three years. Three years. But he can be whatever the offense needs him to be. That year one, he was absolutely peppered with targets. He was a PPR machine. And then, well, now we're big plays. I think that he is so well-rounded that going into year four, I think we're hitting ceiling.

I'm a little lower on him than you are, Mike. I know you're bullish, and it is really the consistency aspect. I've had him on my roster. I've had a lot of shares of Waddle, and you just don't get the really good games as often as you want. You get great games, winning weeks, but I just wish he was more consistent, and I'm worried that it's his play style, that he will be consistently inconsistent going forward, even if he finishes well.

All right. My argument for that is Sure. I can't argue against that because that's what's happened.

No, you said you had an argument.

But the counterpoint is guys in that range can't give you the winning weeks that Jalen Waddle can. Yes, not It won't be every single week. I'll pad in some... I'll find consistency later. I'm taking Jalen Waddle as my wide receiver, too.

Yeah, but what about Waddle or Cup?

Between the two of them, I would take Jalen Waddle.

All right, we'll take a break. Come back with another player Mike has I'm calling in love with all summer long. All right, I don't know if there's a guy that Mike needs to buy a jersey of more than Number 14 on our consensus wide receiver rankings list.

Jay LaWaddle is on the wall, though.

Nico Collins, last year's wide receiver nine, got paid like a number one, three-year, $72 million extension. Fantasy managers out there pricing him where they think this future with C. J. Stroud is headed. He's a wide receiver 14 in ADP. I'm a little lower than that. Jason is a little lower than that. Mike's a little bit higher. 35 receptions of 15 plus yards. That's tied for the fifth most in the league. C. J. Stroud was so good at extending plays and finding Nico Collins. I like the boom, Mike. He was also the only wide receiver in the NFL to catch every 15 plus yard catchable target, according to Warren Sharp. So I give you those numbers to illustrate this is a really good player, not necessarily just a really lucky season.

Right. For me, Nico Collins is... If C. J. Stroud is who we think he is and what fantasy players think he is, drafting him as a top five guy. Nico is the number one. Nico was the number one for this team. Then they paid him like he's the number one for this team. I don't care about Stefan Diggs coming into town. Stefan Diggs will help the offense. Maybe we have more scoring opportunities here for Nico. But the fact that they immediately started treating him with their actions of, This is our guy. This is absolutely our number one guy. And C. J. Stroud's play style is, at least last year, was not... Don't panic. Don't check it down. Stay poised, and wait for Nico Collins.

And don't run.

Yeah, and that's not part of Stroud's game. It's wait for Nico Collins. If I can wait a half a second more or just a fraction, I believe that my guy is going to be opened downfield, and that happened over and over and over again.

He missed two games.

Yeah, with the calf issue.

So that finished inside the top 10, and he missed two games.

Yes, he did.

There were glimpses of the offense of what it could be when a third wide receiver was good. And so I think that's why they brought in Stefan Diggs. Noah Brown's not a very great wide receiver. He's a journeyman. Yeah, he's a journeyman. When he had his big games, you remember, six for 153 in a countdown, seven for 172. I think this offense can work with three wide receivers succeeding if there are three good wide receivers. But I've been rising on Nico more and more. I was the slowest to come to terms with Nico being a very good wide receiver. I just didn't believe it.

I was really disappointed. I was about to say that Kyle has not found clips of me talking in previous offseasons of my belief about Nico Collins in that offense back when it was Davis Mills. There were no weapons to get him the football, but he had that look, and it was neat to see him take a huge step forward. Maybe we don't let the multiple options in the offense get in the way of drafting the best player.

I'm trying to force my bell curve a little bit ahead because I do think three, four years from now, we're going to look back and be like, Yeah, he had a third-year breakout. It was a little later than what we're used to, but then he was just a star from then on out. He's paid like a star now.

This is not an anti-Tank Del take or podcast. Yeah, I think that Tank Del is...

Do we like K. J. Brown and Devante Smith? Yep. Do we like Chase and Higgins? Do we like Waddle and Tyereek?

Yes. Tank Del probably represents an even greater value of where his ADP is and where I think that Tankdell is going to finish. But the contract extension, it speaks so loud to me of this was a team looking at the wide receiver landscape and what's going on with CeeDee Lamb and Jamar Chase. It's these guys who have now put up multiple huge seasons, and they're saying, No, I'm not going I'm not playing until you open the bank for me, and they got out ahead of that. It's a fair move for Nico, 52 million guaranteed. He secures a generational wealth, but he could have waited. If Nico has- It's like DJ More in Chicago.

It's the same thing.

If Nico has another great year, if he has a year anywhere close to what he put up last year, this year, that salary is- It's Jefferson money. Is jettisoning to the stratosphere. They got out in front of it, and I commend them for it.

This just in, the Texans have traded for wide receiver Brandon Ayuk to add to the three-pack.

That's fine.

No, that's false news. Fake news, maybe. Maybe it'll happen. Probably won't happen. Mike Evans at 13. Mike Evans last year was incredible.

A revelation, a league winner, an unbelievable value, and one of your my guys.

It was very, very special to see him. I mean, 17 weeks Wix, wide receiver five, crushed as a 30-year-old, got paid. We do have a change in offensive coordinator. But again, this is the point I made last offseason with Mike Evans. I will not make it forever, but maybe I will. Nobody has seen more change. Nobody has... Quarterback, head coach, offensive coordinator, all of it, than Mike Evans. And this is a player that from 2014 14, wide receiver 12, 24, 2, 18, 8, 12, 10, 8, 16, 5.

Some say he's the first ballot Hall of Famer.

Some would. And he's wide receiver 15. So you're not paying... Think about the season Waddle had two years ago, and then he goes up in these ADP nine. Then you look at the season that Mike Evans had, two spots higher last year than where Waddle had finished when he got moved up to nine, and the age keeps him at wide receiver 15. I think it's a very fair price. It's a Basically where we all have him ranked. I don't think you need to go into it more than that.

No, I think it's a fair price. The only concern is touch downs. It's not that Mike Evans has not been a touch down machine. If you look at the last four seasons, Thirteen this previous season, six in his down season the year before, 14 the year before that, 13 the year before that. But those were braided. Then it was a matter of, do you believe Baker can get him to double-digit touch downs? You did, Andy. You made that case. I didn't. And he did. He got 13. Now, can Baker do it again? The question is, it's still Baker of whether Baker can provide Mike Evans with double-digit touchstones, because I think he's going to need to be around there since he's not- Just give me eight.

Eight will make me content in ADP. Anything higher than eight, we're going to beat That's about my line. He's at eight. He had six in 2022, and that knocked him to... Think about that. Wide receiver, 16, missed two games and only scored six touch downs and ended at 16 in his ADP is 15.

Yeah, but I remember that season. No, that one was pain. That one was pure pain, and most of his points came in that beautiful week 17.

Yeah, but again, look, the case for Evans is so much stronger than the case for D. K. Metcab right now. I mean, it's just so much stronger.

I don't think that's true.

I mean, that blows my mind.

Why are you just a Mike Evans hater all the time?

No, I'm not a Mike Evans' hater. I'm just saying- Ten years of dominance. A 26-year-old versus a 30-year-old. Are you saying that Baker is significantly better than Gino? Is that what you're saying?

I'm saying, well, one, Mike Evans is better than Dike and Metcab. Yes, that's true. Two, Mike Evans has proven it over time with lots of different quarterbacks. No, I would take Metcab behind Evans. Every day of the week.

Okay.

Chris Olave. Chris Olave is quite interesting. He's at 12 in our consensus. He's at eight on my ranks. I was staring this down with Jason in the morning yesterday going, Jason, I've got Olave at eight, and I don't know what to do with these feelings. Mike's got him at 19.

Yeah, because he hurt me.

Jason at 11.

It's an emotional. Hopefully, it's not, but Chris Olave- He should. Ii don't like my ranking here.

He should dominate this.

He should. He should have dominated last year.

Yeah, and he did. He did. The lows were really low with Olave, but he's the number one reading this offense. Mike Thomas is gone. Olave is going to hold up everything they do in the passing game. Derek Carter, take it for what you will. It ain't coffee with Cooper Cup. But Derek Carter has spent extensive time this offseason extra routes, extra reps after practice with Chris Olave to get on the same page. Olave is just too talented, I think. There was a very funny Chris Olave interview where they're like, Did you see anything in this training camp so far?

I thought it was like, What play?

They're like, Have you seen any plays that made you just say, Yeah, we're going to be a really good team? And he's like, No. Which is not the answer you want to give.

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

To me, there's a lot of upside. You talk about upside in the UDK, potential explosive season waiting to happen. Even nick Underhill, who we love, came out and said the connection looks really good in the preseason. It's just a matter of delivering on the promise. Again, it's going to come down to touch downs for Olave, too, where he just didn't get the big plays into the end zone last year, and that really hurt him, but he still ended up in the top 20.

That's a hard part of what happened last year was there was a lot of There was a lot of good games. We never had that one moment where you go into Monday and everyone is talking about, did you see what Chris Olave did yesterday on the football field? We got his best game, let's see, 123. So wide receiver, 12, 9 for 123 against the Rams in terms of yardage. He ranked higher than that when he would score a breakdown. But we didn't have that 120 and 2. I mean, that's a very high bar. I'm not saying that that's an easy thing to do. It's a matter of true number ones, do that at least a couple of times a year. We haven't gotten there yet.

I do think we'll get there. I believe the best Chris Olave season has not been seen yet. I don't think he's peaked in his career, and he is not valued the same as Garrett Wilson and Drake London. I think he is seen as the third. If you compare Chris Olave to Garrett Wilson, I think everyone says, Garrett Wilson is better. He's drafted higher. He should be better. So I just want to play a little game. I want to play a game.

Let's hear it.

This game's called Chris Olave or Garrett Wilson. Okay.

Well, let's start- I was really hoping that was the name of the game.

Let's just start with games. Who's played more games? They came in the same time of the career.

This is just trying to give one to- This is a dumb question. It's trying to give one to Garrett Wilson real quick. So, Garrett Wilson.

Garrett Wilson has three more games played.

Yeah, all right.

Who has more targets in their games?

Garrett Wilson.

Yeah, I'll go Garrett Wilson. It is Garrett Wilson. He's got 315 targets versus Chris Olave is only at 257.

He's laying the sticks across the hole, Mike. He's shuffling some. You ready to walk?

Go get that meat hanging from the tree branch. All right, let's just look at the advanced metrics. That's gross. I don't think I will. Targets per route run and yards per route run.

That's got to be, I think it's Olave.

Targets, I'm going to go Wilson. Yards, I'll go Olave.

Both of them are Chris Olave ahead. Who has more top 12 fantasy finishes? Higher percentage of top 12 fantasy finishes.

I think I've been down this road before. I think Olave has got that. It is Olave.

Who has a higher percentage of top 24 finishes? It is Olave. Who has more total yards Olave. It is Olave.

He has more total touch downs.

That one is pretty interesting. Olave. I don't think he's given the respect he deserves. He's been somehow a disappointment, even though he's been really good.

When you When you have basement quarterback in New York and you have mid-quarterback in New Orleans, the grace has not been given to Olave with mid as it has been with... Like, Garrett Wilson gets a free pass.

Yeah, because of the other Wilson.

Put Derek Carr on the New York Jets last year. That team makes the playoff. Yes.

Certainly. Oh, yeah. And Garrett Wilson doesn't.

I like Chris Olave a lot. I was the one just last Last offseason of that exact thing, same thing of, I don't think the gap between Derek Wilson and Chris Olave should be as big as it is.

The problem is, is his ADP is the wide receiver 12. If it was 20, you're talking my guy contention. Sure. But 12 is like, that's not a floor for him. So there's risk. There's a little bit of a Drake London risk.

So he's being drafted as a top 12 guy. Can Chris Olave finish top five?

Such a good question. No.

I don't think so either. And for the record, I do think Gary Wilson can.

12 to 6.

Yeah, that's the hard part about the ADP.

Marvin Harrison is the last name we'll talk about today comes in at 11. His ADP is nine, guys. We are officially not homers. Did you realize that? You're welcome. We are wide receiver 11. Also, I had made some adjustments earlier in week. He was at eight. He's at 10 for me. Mike at 11, Jason at 15. All three of us slightly below ADP. As much as I believe in the clear path to not busting that exists for Harrison, which I do believe, it is still a just... It is the highest sticker price on the lot. You are not waiting for rates to come down. No. You want it. You want it bad, and you want it now.

This is not a family car.

It's exciting. It's flashy. It's a two-seater.

This is for dad only. This is a two-seater.

You know, Al, he ain't putting on the seat belt. No.

That's premium. Premium gasoline in there.

Yes. You're paying the highest price to have the sexiest vehicle, and it will be probably pretty fun. I really do think it's going to be a great year.

But there's going to be some times you're going to be like, Man, I wish I had a back seat.

Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah, it could be. Groceries don't fit in here.

I should not have left the roof off. It's raining.

If Kyler Murray goes down, Enjoy Desmond-Ritter supplying Marvin Harrison with fantasy value. This question is like the one you just asked. It's the best question about Marvin for the ADP, which is wide receiver nine, a mid-second round pick. The highest he can finish in year one is what?

He can be a top five guy. I do believe that a Jamar Chase rookie season is possible.

Where was Chase as a rookie? What was his finish?

Wide receiver...

I believe it was wide receiver six.

Wide receiver 5.

Okay.

In a half-point- You're way off, Jay. He put up 81 for over 1400 yards and 13 touch downs. Now, The 13 touch downs is doing some real heavy lifting there.

Puca was four. So four or five?

Is that what you think? Yes, it is absolutely possible. It is a cheek clenching pick to take a rookie, the highest drafted rookie of all time for fantasy football. His margin for error is so low. The emotional cost of Marvin Harrison, if Marv goes out week one and gives you seven for 45 or something like that, you are going to panic in the streets.

Let me give a draft strategy thought with Marvin Harrison. There are a lot of wide receivers going in the first round, right? You guys just did a mock draft, and somehow Mike ended up with Béjon at nine because the big name wide receivers are going and going early, which means that on that turn, for a lot of you, it's, do you want to grab your running back, or do you want to grab a second wide receiver in Marv? The price for Malik Nabors is two rounds later, and Malik Nabors is really, really good. He is. And there's not the risk attached. Not that there's huge risk with Harrison as a floor play, but you're waiting for your running back, and then until your draft strategy is going to have to become third-round, fourth-round runningbacks, it's just something a little bit scary where he's going. Strategically, strategically. Now, if you go running back early, then Marv is your number one. So you've got to go Gibbs or Kieran, and then you got to come back and say, Marvin's my number one wide receiver. And I think I'm more okay with that than I am with Waddle or Drake London.

But But it's still a little bit scary.

It is. Obviously, we haven't seen him on the NFL field, but there hasn't been a prospect like him in a long, long time. He is as perfect a prospect as you can be. He has the height, the speed, the ball skills, the pedigree, the heritage. I mean, he's got it all. He's the clear one for his depth chart with no real competition. It's been from day one here in Arizona. He is the alpha wide receiver for the team, and he's got a good quarterback in Kyler who has been able to support fantasy success in the past.

Hopkins was his first year here. Now, Hopkins was a superstar at the time, of course. But DeAndre Hopkins, year one in Arizona, was the number five overall fantasy wide receiver.

Yeah. I mean, It's tough because I could see a world where you are disappointed, and it is a bust of a pick this year. He's not going to be a bust of a player. But if he goes out and has five touch downs, and his line in a lot of sports books is right around 1,000 yards. If he goes out and gets 1,000 yards on the dot and six touch downs, you're going to be super disappointed with this draft slot. But the truth is, we talk about Chris Olave does not have the potential to be top five. I do think Marvin Harrison does. And so that's why you're making decisions basically between those type of players. I think the floor is higher for a Chris Olave than it is for a rookie Marvin Harrison. I think the ceiling is higher for Marvin Harrison. So it's just like, what What is the way you want to play?

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