All right, well, let's ask that question to Ari Fleischer, former White House Press Secretary in the Bush administration, and a Fox News contributor. If you're looking at the over and the under on the Supreme Court vote, what are you looking at?

Well, I'm not a Supreme Court vote counter, but I think you don't have to be one to have heard what took place, which, by the way, was a great contribution to democracy to play this and let people hear it in its entirety. What a glimpse into the Supreme Court. But I think, John, the Supreme Court is on the verge of saving the Democratic Party from its own worst excesses. Can you imagine if this goes through? What would it do to our country if Donald Trump were removed from the ballot? And make no mistake, what the Colorado Secretary of State and Main Secretary of State have done, is an insurrection of its own kind. It is an insurrection of a different sort. It's a white collar insurrection done by powerful government officials who sit at desks to rule an opponent off a ballot. That in and of itself is insurrection of a different sort. I think the Supreme Court is on the verge of restoring normalcy and allowing people to believe in free and fair elections to prevail.

Very interesting. I feel a lot of people, Ari, feel the same way. It was nice to be able to hear these justices having been told that those far left justices were going to be in there and they're going to be so cruel and mean to the Trump lawyer. What do you think? Because We heard from the former President immediately following, right? And now he's off to Nevada. You just wonder, as you hear this all play out, as you're not a Supreme Court vote counter, you certainly are somebody very familiar with messaging. What do you What do you see the President doing with the turnout in this oral argument or what we've heard so far? We'll see what a decision is made. What happens over the next few months with voters as they see this play out?

Donald Trump has such a good touch about when to communicate. Think about what he did today. There was a hearing in the Supreme Court about whether he should be removed as a presidential candidate. What was his response? To act like a presidential candidate. He went right over the various issues to show everybody, I am a presidential candidate. I will talk like one. I'll take questions from the press like one. The press shouted like there was a presidential candidate right in front of them. It just shows how absurd it to think you can remove him from the ballot when he acts the very role that he is, which is a certified, legitimate, bona fide presidential candidate who very well may become the next President.

There seem to be a number of issues here, surrounding this idea of ambiguity around the 14th Amendment, Section 3, regarding insurrection and then insurrection itself. You don't have the word President in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Then you also don't have Donald Trump even charged with insurrection, let alone convicted of it. How does Colorado connect those dots?

That's why I said, John, this, by Colorado, is an insurrection of a different sort, a white-collar insurrection by powerful people who sit at desks. This is why you want a Supreme Court, because they have to overrule the passions of elected officials. There's passion on both sides. But what's broken the norms in recent years are efforts to get Donald Trump, the two impeachments of Donald Trump, both in contravention of House rules. Nancy Pelosi deciding who could and could not sit on Congressional committees and throwing Republicans off and appointing her own people. Now you have secretaries of state following that very norm-breaking thread to throw Trump off the ballot. It wasn't like this, but the Democrats can't control themselves. That is why we need powerful institutions that do look long term, that go beyond the passions of the day to resect the clock and remind us free and fair elections is what made America strong, and Colorado and Maine are out of line.

All right, so here's some more sound from Alito inside the Supreme Court earlier.

I'm not taking a position one way or the other about whether the expert's testimony should have been admitted or anything like that, or the meaning of President Trump's words. I'm just trying to get you to grapple with what some people have seen as the consequences of the argument that you're advancing, which is that there will be conflicts in decisions among the states, that different states will disqualify different candidates. But I'm not getting a whole lot of help from you about how this would not be an unmanageable situation.

Quite a moment there, Ari.

Yeah, and it was just repeated question after question after question, which is heartening. I hope that justices will issue this. They're ruling soon. I don't know if they'll wait all the way to the summer to do it. We really need, as a nation, just to move beyond this, get it behind us. I also have made the case, if this were to hold up, and I don't think it will, it also punishes all Republicans in Colorado and Maine, all Republican office holders and candidates, because without a President at the top of the ticket, turnout drops. It's a shot aimed at Donald Trump, but the side effects Republicans up and down the ballot from dog catcher to mayor to Congress. That's important, too.

Ari, we pointed out before, too, that Justice John Roberts, off the back of Elaina Kagan, was saying, Well, look, if we were all in favor of Colorado, this is going to have a domino effect. This is what he said. This is Call Forer number 4.

What do you do with what would seem to me to be plain consequences of your position? If Colorado's position is upheld, surely there will be disqualification proceedings on the other side, and some of those will succeed. In very quick order, I would expect, although my predictions have never been correct, I would expect that a goodly number of states will say, Whoever the Democratic candidate is, you're off the ballot, and others, for the Republican candidate, you're off the ballot, and it'll come to just a handful of states that are going to decide the presidential election. That's a pretty daunting consequence.

The way it works right now because of the politics, there is only a handful of swing states that decide these elections, but that's just the way that the politics blows in the country. But this would completely, fundamentally change how a president is picked.

Well, it would change how a president is picked. It would change the likelihood of Republicans up and down the line getting elected in those states. But it also would lead to retaliation. Every time one party breaks the norms, just as Pelosi did with the two impeachments, now you have Republicans trying to impeach Joe Biden, removing people from committee. Every time the Democrats do one of these things, Republicans will copy. Because you You can't just let it go. Who's next? Are Republicans going to then try to disqualify in certain Republican states? Joe Biden from office, Kamala Harris, who encouraged people to pay to release the rioters of the summer of 2020 on Why should she be allowed on the ballot if she's done something like that? She should be removed in Mississippi, Alabama, and other red states. When you break the norms, the other party will follow. We're a better country and a stronger country if the norms are honored in this instance, not violated. That's why the Supreme Court, I think, is going to slap Colorado and Maine down, which is good for America.

It has been an interesting and very revealing morning and day. Ari Fleischer, could you please stand by with us as the breaking news continues?

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