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She's mad. Annie, hold upside down.

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Anthea.

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Annie? Anthea. Anthea.

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In their early 20s, Anthea Bradshaw Jeff Hall used a home video camera to film their family gatherings and to record messages for their friends. Hi, Carly.

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This song's dedicated from the three of us to you up there in Queensland.

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Just listen to the words. Just listen to the words. Watching the videos back, it's clear they had a lot of fun.

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By the way, do you remember this dress?

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I'll tell you what, I saw this in David Jones today, $250. Anthea's friends tell me they did They have some great times with a young couple, but they also have some clues as to what was happening behind closed doors. Insights into the years and months leading up to Anthea's murder in a Brunei apartment. In this episode of Just Married, Secrets Will Be Exposed.

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I'm using hindsight. I'm being reflective and thinking things were not good, and that's fairly serious.

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Then he attacked me. I fell through a wall, hurt my elbow and my wrist.

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He completely cut off contact with us, completely, after that last phone call, which I found undeserved.

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Why?

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Why would you tell everyone else and not us? You know we're going to find out.

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I'm sitting down with two of Anthea's best friends, Melanie Jones and Nicole Kilpatrick. They met Anthea in their late teens, early 20s, when they were all studying to be teachers.

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Do you want me to start? Because probably I knew her a little bit before Nicole. We're Melanie Jones We studied at McGill University together. In our third year, we had to work at country placement, so it was a city placement. We did a city placement, then we had to do four weeks in the country. We planned that we would go and stay in Jamestown and do our final crack. Anthea and I stayed in a caravan together.

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Kyle Kilpatrick is my name, and met Mel and Anthea in Jamestown. I wasn't staying with the other girls, but we just met at the school and then in the little community, and friendships continued from there.

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We would do lots of weekends back and forth. Nicole driving in the front, Anthea in the front. I was in the back in your orange You've got such a good memory about that. We did lots of trips back and forth to Jamestown together.

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What things do you remember from that time about Anthea? What was she like? Gorgeous.

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Yeah, she was a gorgeous girl. She was full of fun. She was fun.

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Very happy, very good soul, I always felt. I was very blessed and very lucky. I felt like I was just the best friend she'd ever had. But I realized that she made everybody feel that way. She made everybody feel that way.

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I think you were her best friend. But I think for all of the time, I thought, reflected on a lot, for all of the time that we spent together, Jeff wasn't really involved.

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Obviously, you've said that you didn't know Jeff very well, But what did you think of him at the time?

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I was from public school. Jeff was from Pembrokes. I was Anthea, but she was very inclusive. I always felt like I was the little country hick. He didn't really have much time for me.

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Is that an assessment you've come to 30 years later, or is that something you clearly remember thinking at the time? Clearly remember thinking at the time.

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I can say for me, it's probably more reflective now, but I would agree with that. There was never really any interest in me in developing that friendship with me as Annie's closest friend. I can reflect on that now to go. There was never any interest.

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Okay, that's interesting because, yes, I felt he was not interested in me at all.

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They were close, though, weren't they? Would you say they were close?

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I'd say they were great mates.

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Great mates, yeah. I think that's a good way to put it. Just seemed like a good friendship. I knew that they were a couple, but reflectively, didn't really see any closeness or intimacy necessarily, just a mateship, friendship.

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Getting back at their relationship. I just felt like it was a friendship.

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Probably another important thing to ask you there, though, is that something that you've come to retrospectively, the fact that it was a friendship? Or at the time, did you also think, Oh, they just seem like mates more so than lovers, I guess?

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I think It seemed like a friendship.

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Yeah. I think that's the challenging part being reflective because we were going back so far. We were young ourselves and all learning about what relationships were, really, what adult relationships were.

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This isn't a question you have to answer if you feel uncomfortable, but do you know if they'd been intimate?

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Not yet. As far as I knew, no, they hadn't been.

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After Jamestown, Anthea would teach at regional schools in South Australia's Southeast. It's while Anthea was there that Nicole and Melanie believe her relationship with Jeff hit a hurdle, and there was a separation. I'm hearing this for the first time.

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I know they had one break for a time. I think that was Anthea's doing. But Jeff begged her to come back, but it was almost like they were ran these two lives simultaneously, although they connected.

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Early in the podcast, you heard the Bradshaw family saying they'd rarely seen tension between Anthea and Jeff. But Melanie and Nicole have reason to believe their relationship was not perfect. It was around this stage of the interview that I wanted to address something specific with Nicole. She'd arrived for our interview with a letter she hadn't shown me before, a letter I wasn't even aware existed. It was sent to Nicole from Anthea. Okay, so I think perhaps now is a good time to talk about one letter in particular that you've brought in to the interview today. Would you Can I find reading out the section of the letter that you've highlighted to me?

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No, I think Mel might be able to read it for me. I don't think I could read it now. Okay.

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Is that all right?

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Yeah, sure.

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Yeah. So the date is the first of August 1992.

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This is within less than two years before the murder?

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Yes. She's writing letters to Nicole, and there's a conversation about relationships. She starts on the third page with So bloody relationships are a lot of hard work, and sometimes think life would be a lot simpler without them. Maybe not better, but simpler. Jeff and I have had some doosy of arguments since we have been away. A bit of furniture throwing a few Minor injuries, et cetera. But we both came out in the end still in one piece and wanting to resolve our differences rather than forget them and go our separate ways.

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Furniture throwing, minor injuries. What do you make of that now? She obviously wanted you to know.

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That's the unknown part. I don't know that I can comment on that because I don't know. All I have is that it's in writing, and I'm using hindsight. I'm being reflective and thinking things were not good, and that's fairly serious I have made several attempts to speak with Jeff Hall with the intention of getting his response to this, but he hasn't responded.

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The letter was the first evidence I'd seen of the relationship, perhaps at times being volatile. But it wouldn't the only piece of evidence. I would find out more.

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My name is Kim Maloney. I knew Annie from 1991. I needed someone to help pay rent with me, so I put an A in the paper. He answered the ad, came up, had a look, moved in. Then we just got a house on fire. From then on, we got very close very quickly. Yeah, It was beautiful.

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Kim Maloney says she spent a lot of time with Jeff and Anthea together, and initially, there were no signs of any problems.

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He was always really nice. Just a nice bloke. He was always really attentive to her, always hanging on to her and loving her. Yeah, it seemed fine.

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But as time went on, Anthea would confide in Kim that not everything was as it seemed.

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They did have fights, yeah. But they were always behind closed doors. I just knew later that she wasn't happy.

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When you say later?

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Well, after the fight, I suppose it would have been.

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She'd spoken to you about them having fights? What fights? Verbal?

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Yeah, I think it was verbal. There was never any mention of him hitting her or things like that.

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Do you remember how she described the fights?

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She was just in a different frame of mind when I saw her next. It was like she was unhappy.

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You've gone and read your diary from the time that you were staying with Anthea and at times Jeff. What have you seen in that diary?

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I saw that they were having lots of arguments at one stage, and that one time I did hear it. I don't know what it was about, but I did hear them raise voices, and that she told me the next day that he slept in the lounge room and left early to go to work.

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So multiple mentions in your diary of them having arguments? Yeah. Now, back then, Anthea's friends didn't read too much into these incidents and revelations. They thought what Jeff and Anthea were going through was fairly typical of many relationships. And sadly, they were probably right. Arguments, both verbal and physical, remain too prominent in Australian society. But with the benefit of hindsight, Nicole Kilpatrick says that letter that spoke about furniture throwing and minor injuries should have rang alarm bells.

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I, of course, feel I had a responsibility there with that, and I didn't do anything on it. I feel so guilty now that I didn't question more or quiz more about anything to do with that. But at the time, I just skimmed over it.

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It wasn't long after that letter that Jeff and Anthea are engaged. Early in 1994, Jeff and Anthea are married, and Nicole, you were in the wedding, you were a bridesmaid.

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It was very happy Annie didn't want a fuss of a big fancy dress. She was very pragmatic about that stuff. All this fuss, got to get my hair done, and all that carry on. She was just very sporty and active and-Athletic and very fit. Yeah. So went all through that and enjoyed the day and being with everybody and just having a celebration of this event, ready to move forward in their life.

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And so after the wedding, Anthea and Jeff are heading off to Brunei. Do you remember much about what she was saying in the lead up to that?

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She was excited for For Jeff in the lead up to that. They must have had information about the incredible wealth involved with this position and what it would be like for Jeff flying. She made reference to gold toilet seats on the aircraft and things like that. Disgusting show of wealth I think her words were. I remember conversation before they went, Jeff saying to me, it made sense at the time. This is going to be a great experience. It's going to set us up for life. Financially, this is going to be a wonderful experience. I remember them letting me know that they'd got their wills done, that they'd organized and got their wills done before they went.

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Official police documents I've obtained show this was indeed the case. Anthea's five-page Will and Testament was signed and dated the eighth of July, 1994. That's 13 days before her murder. She goes to Brunei, and I guess the next news you get about her is devastating. Do you remember that moment?

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Yes. I do. The Clarity. I was traveling. We were in Tuscany at the time. My cousin made a phone call back home, and she put down the phone and said, No, you need to ring. You entering home. And so that's when I found out. And I think I just went into quite a bit of a shop then. I wasn't due to come back to Australia, but But we had been traveling for a while, and my cousin and I decided that we would come back to Australia. We just felt so shocked and overwhelmed by it all. Yeah, so we came back.

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I was teaching at Google Primary School at the time and went into the staff room at break, and the advertiser was always in there. The advertiser was delivered every morning to the staff room.

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The advertiser being the local paper?

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Yeah, the Adelaide advertiser. I still remember to this day as clear as anything, a little clip on, I think it was the right-hand side of the front page, and there was a photo of Anthea, and I just could not believe it. I just went It was a total shock. I cried. I rang my mom. I remember my mom saying, Oh, my God, her poor mother.

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Jeff Hall has always said he was at work when Anthea was killed, and none of Anthea's friends suspected him any involvement in her murder. But some would be shocked at how quickly and abruptly he disappeared from their lives after his wife's funeral.

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He got nasty and he took my keys. He threw them over the top of the car.

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So far in this episode of Just Married, you've heard from three of Anthea's best friends, including Nicole Kilp Patrick, who was a bridesmaid in her wedding to Jeff Hall. Nicole revealed how around two years earlier, Anthea had told her about arguments she'd been having with Jeff, which she claimed in a letter involved furniture throwing and minor injuries. Well, there was also one other bridesmaid in that wedding, and she has confirmed to me that in her opinion, Jeff and Anthea's relationship was at times rocky. In the interview you're about to hear, she also sheds light on a previously unexplained event in Brunei and details what she believes was a strange goodbye from Jeff in the weeks after his wife's funeral.

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I'm Melissa Teely. I was a very good friend of Anthea, and I was actually bridesmaid in her wedding.

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Melissa and Anthea also met as young teachers when they were both posted to a school in the small seaside town of Robe.

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Look, I got the job down in Robe two days before school started, and I went to Robe Australia Day, long weekend in January 1990, Sunday, and I was due to start on Tuesday. And the school said, Oh, we've got someone who's to start it here. Would you be willing to share a house? I said, Yes, that'll be fine. Yes. So it all went very quickly. And I met Annie, Mom and I, drove down to Rope, and we just hit it off right from the get-go. She was just such a friendly and welcoming and helpful, loving person. And my fear of leaving home at 21 years of age and starting a teaching career, so dissipated very quickly upon meeting… I called her Annie. I know her correct name's Anthea. Lots of people call her Annie, so don't worry about that. Referred to that. She didn't like Pananthia.

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And so you're teaching together down there at Robe? Yes. Do you remember her relationship with Jeff at that point?

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I was under the impression that she was single at the time. When I met her in January, that was the case. It was around term three, I think. She said that this ex-boyfriend or boyfriend that she was thinking about getting back with was coming down for a weekend. I found him to be a really nice and fun-loving guy. We went and had drinks at the pub, robe, and out to dinner, and both of them included me in the socialness of robe. I knew that they'd been together at Penbroke, so they'd been quite a long time together. And then from my understanding, they were on a break, and then this break then rekindled into becoming boyfriend and girlfriend again. I think it must have been that. I remember her talking about it, saying she wasn't sure. She'd only had Jeff as her boyfriend, no others. Was he the right one? Even though she hadn't really explored other people.

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Melissa says Jeff and Anthea would agree to try and make things work, and she only has fond memories of the wedding day. She was excited for Anthea, who was already thinking about having children.

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I remember her telling me about a cyst. She had something on her liver that I think was removed. It might have been a cyst as well. I remember her saying something about a size of a tennis ball, and she also had a cyst on her ovaries. I do recall him bringing that up in the year we were in robe. With regards to the cyst, she'd been told, obviously, by the doctors that she'd have difficulty perhaps in falling pregnant. I do have memories of her saying that she really wanted to be a mom one day, and she hoped that this wasn't going to get in the way.

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This appears to fill a gap from a story I was told in episode 2. You might remember Váhguis Paolos, Jeff's manager at Bruneis, Jerrordong Park Sports Medicine Center, telling me how when Anthea arrived there, Jeff asked if he could perform an ultrasound on his wife. Well, I think we can now cautiously assume that the couple wanted to inspect the cyst that Melissa has just mentioned. I have looked at Anthea's postmortem report and noted that she did have a cyst on her liver and that her right ovary appeared to have been removed in a previous surgery. The report describes described the left ovary as normal, meaning that it would have still been possible for Anthea to have children. However, this stress and uncertainty so soon after being married would have no doubt weighed heavily on the young couple.

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Not sure what Jeff's position was on having children. I can certainly speak for Annie that she definitely wanted children.

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Melissa says she still can't believe Anthea was robbed of that dream. She still can't believe that a few months after the wedding and those conversations about starting a family, she'd need to say goodbye to Annie at her funeral. Do you remember the feeling that day sitting there in that same- I got up and spoke, and I I didn't say much, but I did get up and I can remember it being a struggle, probably the worst day of my life and sadness deeply entrenched in everyone, the loss of Annie. Do you remember Jeff at the funeral?

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Yeah, I remember him being sobbing and crying at the front there, hunched over.

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Melissa considered Jeff a friend. So a week or two after the funeral, she says she, Jeff, and others met at a pub in Adelaide's Eastern suburbs in what would end up being the last time she and Jeff would ever speak.

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I had to go about an hour and a half, two hours into the gathering, and Jeff walked me out. I said, Oh, it's daylight. I said, It's fine. I can walk out. You stay here. And I, No, I want to walk you out. Cross the pedestrian crossing. And he told me that he couldn't see me again. And the reason was I was too close to his memory of Annie. It was all too raw. It was best if we just said goodbye and never saw each other again. And I remember my reaction at the time, because I was obviously still grieving, as everyone was, just crying and saying, No, no, this is not right. This is what you really want. You can't just turn your back on your friends. And we're here to help you. We're here to support you. And I remember him saying, It had to be this way. It has to be this way. I do recall that. And then I just hugged him and walked to the car and got in the car and drive off. Thought that friends supported each other in grief and in tragic circumstances, and couldn't understand why he didn't actually want that.

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In my understanding of people, when they're grieving, then they need those people around them to help, put one step forward and get on with living as hard as that may look. He just wanted to say, See you later. I found that odd, and I just couldn't understand or conceptualize what that was about.

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I have heard similar stories from Anthea's other friends of Jeff suddenly disappearing from their lives. But by far the most shocking was told to me by Kim Maloney, Anthea's former housemate who spoke earlier in this episode. Kim explains how her friendship with Jeff came to a dramatic end not long after the funeral, during a gathering at a house he was renting in Adelaide's Eastern suburbs.

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We went there to get together and have a few drinks and I can't remember who else was there. I was to stay the night, and we were all set up and we were drinking, obviously. Then he was playing video games, and it was a really aggressive, nasty bang-bang, and he was really getting into it. I obviously must have said something to him that upset him because then he attacked me. I fell through a wall, hurt my elbow and my wrist, and then I just wanted to leave. He wouldn't let me leave. He took my keys, and then I just walked outside to my car, and then he threw the keys somewhere in the grass. I can remember that. And I found them and I just took off.

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So you were sitting around playing video games Essentially, did you say to him that it was a violent video game?

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Yes, it was. And it just didn't feel right to me. And I think I might have said to something that Annie wouldn't like this. That's when it got nasty.

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Kim recalls the impact of Jeff's alleged shove, leaving a hole in either a wall or a door. She tells me that she would end up going to hospital for X-rays, but there were no broken bones, just some bruising. You always thought Jeff was a nice, gentle guy. Was this a real departure from that? Yes.

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I didn't see him again after that.

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Never spoke to him ever again?

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I need the time to get him to come and get any stuff from the front of the house where I was living.

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What did you think of it at the time?

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Uncharacteristic.

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Was there a reason you didn't go to the police or take it any further at the time?

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I didn't even think of that. No, I didn't even think of it.

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Were there witnesses to this?

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Yes, there was other people there, but I don't remember who they were.

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Now, again, I have tried unsuccessful to contact Jeff to get his response to this allegation. Mission. After spending some time asking around, I wasn't able to find anyone else who was at that gathering. But then I received a voice message on my phone.

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Hello, Ben. Paul Bradshaw here, mate. No, Isn't it really important, but if you give me a call when you've got a moment, no rush, or even tomorrow morning, mate. All right. See you, buddy.

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What Paul Bradshaw, and his youngest brother, had to tell me was important. He'd been speaking with one of Jeff's old friends from Water Polo, a a man named Bronco. Whilst he didn't recall being at the gathering where Kim Maloney alleges she was attacked by Jeff, he did remember something else from that time. I'll make a phone call to Bronco. Hello. G'day. Is that Bronco? That's right, Ben, is it? Yes. How are you, mate? Yeah, it's fine, thanks. Yeah, nice afternoon. Bronco is aware I'm recording as I ask him about the evening when Kim alleges Jeff became violent. There was an incident down at Frederick Street, down at Maylands. Were you there? I wasn't there, no. When that happened, but I was there by the day after. And what did you see? I was just holding the two top walls. Bronco believes it looked like the wall had been punched or kicked in. Were you aware that there was a party? Well, it may not have been a party, but it was a gathering of people at that address in Maylands, and there was one Anthea's friends there, a woman by the name of Kim. She's told me that he got angry with her one night there at that gathering, and that he pushed her to the point where she sustained an injury, and that it was actually her that ended up going through that wall.

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In the hallway, I think it was, something like that. But I'm not the only person that saw that damage. There's other people. I just tick that off. He's grieving. He's this, he's that, whatever, but maybe not. As I say, Bronco did not witness whatever caused the hole in the wall, and he also had nice things to say about Jeff during our call. In general, Jeff was fantastic. Other than 1985, '06, I think it was. He was a really nice bloke. You think about these things because it's going to be under the 30 It's been 10 years since Anthea's past. We just reflect on all of this stuff. I am not suggesting Kim's allegation has direct relevance to the Anthea Bradshaw murder investigation. I will again point out that while Jeff Hall has been named as a suspect in her killing, investigations by multiple police forces have failed to find enough evidence to charge him. It leaves Anthea's friends scratching their heads. Melanie Jones and Nicole Kilpatrick now look back on those early years of their lives in disbelief.

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When I was relatively young, it was something you just don't expect to encounter in your life to know someone that's been murdered.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Always.

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It's just so confusing and just that continual questioning of what the hell happened.

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Now, Nicole has already reflected on the letter that Anthea sent her that spoke about the arguments she'd been having with Jeff. But there is also one other interaction that has always stayed with her. It was a phone call she received from Anthea when she was preparing to visit Jeff in Brunei, a phone call that raises more questions about Anthea's final days.

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Yes, she hadn't left then, and she had heard from Jeff, who must have already been over there, and that he had something important he had to tell her. I remember that.

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When she got to Bruneye, Jeff was to tell Anthea something.

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He had something important that he had to tell her. I remember that that was said on the phone call to me when I was still in France.

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Could you tell in her tone of voice whether that important thing was… No.

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No. I don't…

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So we don't know whether that was…

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I don't have enough clarity with that memory. No.

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Some good news, some bad It was some shocking news.

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Don't know.

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We may never know what it was that Jeff wanted to tell Anthea when she arrived in Brunei. But what I can tell you is that years after Anthea's death, Jeff would share some important personal news with his close friends. According to Anthea's brother, Craig, it was a secret his brother-in-law had been hiding from him, one that makes him question why he married his sister in the first place.

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I get really angry with myself sometimes that I didn't see it. Jesus, why didn't I see that? Why didn't I see that he really wasn't the man we thought he was?

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At Anthea Bradshaw's wedding in April of 1994, her dad, Martin, made a speech during which he spoke about the early stages of her relationship with Jeff Hall. It's time to pass by and Jeff was seem to be there for a fair amount of the time, we started to ask Anthea about this bloke, Jeff, and her soft reply, and we got it for years, was, We are just good friends. Martin says good friends was the official line for quite some time until he witnessed something late one night. I just happened to be out in the front of our house when our two good friends arrived home. So I did what every good father would do. I hit behind the hedge.

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He did, too.

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Jeff and Anthea then proceeded to have a friend Very friendly, good night, kiss.

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Or so we say, Very friendly, good night, kiss. It was the first time Martin had seen affection between them. Anthea's mom, Roz, says she never saw any.

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I'd never seen Anthea kiss. I didn't even see any emotion, really. Closeness like that.

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Between Anthea and Jeff? Yes. I'd never seen any. Any real intimacy?

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No, or sitting close.

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They laughed a lot together. They did laugh a lot together.

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They were good mates?

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I think so. Anthea's brothers, Craig and Paul, also don't recall seeing much intimacy between the couple, but nothing prepared the Brad Shores for what Paul, Anthea's youngest brother, would learn at a social event in Adelaide in 2003.

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At a party, cricket party. We were just chatting a friend, And he's a mutual friend of Jeff. I said to him, So how's Jeff? Because I hadn't heard or seen him for a while. And he goes, I'm really worried about him. I said, What do you mean, worried about him? And he goes, Oh, coming out with that young fella. And I went, Come out of what? Just completely naive. I said, Come out of what? And he went red-ish, realizing that I didn't know. And then by watching him, I'm going, Oh, my God. I just didn't expect him to say that. I went, Wow. Wow.

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He shocked.

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Shock.

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Straight-out shock.

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Some of my acquaintances, they all say, Well, we always knew he was I go. I said, Why don't you tell me? They've got no answer to that. Well, he's your son-in-law. We didn't think you wanted to know. And then we found out purely by accident.

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Then I told Craig, We're at Mom and Dad's place. He didn't believe it first, but then a half an hour later, he did.

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I remember when Paul told me, and I just brushed it off, thinking, Well, it doesn't mean he's a murderer just because he's gay.

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This is an important point I'd I'd like to make very clear. Jeff should not be judged for his sexuality. Coming out as gay after his wife's brutal death obviously does not mean he had anything to do with his wife's murder. And further to that, it is not unusual for men, and women for that matter, to come out as gay after first marrying a member of the opposite sex. There should be a level of understanding that in the 1990s, a decision to come out as gay as a young man would have been incredibly difficult and challenging. For many people who grew up in that era, there was immense social pressure to conform, and this could lead some people to enter into heterosexual marriages, even if they experienced same-sex attractions. For these reasons, I am very conscious that this section of the podcast needs to be handled sensitively. However, I've decided to include Jeff's personal revelation because I think it has relevance to the investigation in that it potentially raises questions about the dynamics of his relationship with Anthea. Was their marriage a façade? If Anthea knew he was gay, she wouldn't have married him. That's my deep felt opinion.

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Not that she would abuse or be homosexual or anything like that.

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She wouldn't, but she didn't know he was gay. I'm convinced in my mind. Because if I didn't think he was gay, she wouldn't. Now, it's my understanding that at least one of Jeff's friends is of the opinion that Jeff may have become gay after losing Anthea, that the trauma may have influenced a change in his sexuality. Craig Bradshaw refuses to believe it.

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You just don't turn gay. You either are or you aren't.

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Research indicates Craig is probably right. There doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence to support the idea a traumatic event can impact a person's sexual preferences. However, in fairness, I should point out that there is evidence of people not becoming aware of their true sexual orientation until later in life. Some people may suppress or be unaware of their same-sex attractions because of societal pressures, internalized homophobia, or a lack of exposure to diverse sexual identities. This means we cannot assume Jeff knew he was gay when he married Anthea. And whilst I'm not aware of Jeff having any female partner since Anthea, we also I don't know for sure that he's not attracted to women as well as men. Jeff has never commented publicly on his sexuality, and the investigating police I've spoken to say it was never the focus of their questioning. The reality is that Craig and Paul may never truly know whether Jeff had always kept his true sexuality secret from them and from Anthea. But Paul says he felt confused and hurt that others seemed to have learned Jeff was gay before they did. Someone that you thought you knew really well had kept a big secret from you.

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When he decided to tell that secret to the rest of the world, he still didn't come to you, didn't come to Craig.

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Why? Why would you tell everyone else and not us? You know we're going to find out. Sadly, this information gets around very quickly. So why hide it?

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But But Craig Bradshaw says he didn't cease contact with Jeff at this point. He wanted to speak with him about it, but that never happened.

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I rang him once and said, Hi, how are you? I could just tell his tone was very standoffish. It was very standoffish. I didn't say I knew he was gay. I just said, I haven't seen you for a while. I don't want to come out and come and see our new house? We just built a house at Morton Lakes. Come and see it. He goes, I'm too busy with the water pol. I can't see it, and just hung up on me. And that was the last That's the last time I spoke to him. I'm just trying to think, why would he be like that? Just because you're gay doesn't mean you don't have to stop talking to me. I'm the brother of your ex-wife. We can still see each other and talk to you. If you're gay, you're gay. He completely cut off contact with us, completely, after that last phone call, which I found undeserved. I didn't deserve to be cut off by him. The way I looked at it, once again, very selfishly, he was my last contact with her. So keeping in contact with Paul meant that I was in a bit of contact with her, yeah.

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Still not real, but that's the way you feel when you have this issue happened to you. And I don't think anybody could understand unless you're a homicide victim of crime.

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So when he stopped talking to you, you lost your last connection with Anthea?

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Primarily, yeah, I think so. Because when we saw Anthea, it was always with him.

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The silence from Jeff raised questions for Craig and Paul. They wanted a fresh look at what happened in Brunei.

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I went down to the Nord police station and said, My name's Paul Bradshaw. My sister has been murdered. I want to speak to police. I don't know who I want to speak to. Where do we go? And the guy in the police station went out the back, comes back in and goes, Paul, you're all right? I said, No, I'm not all right, mate. I want information. I want to talk to someone who knows more about this than I do. And he goes, We got no record of your sister ever being murdered. And I was like, Look, I'm not coming in here making stuff up. Probably got a little bit aggressive, not too much. It just maybe raised my voice a bit. And they said, Wait here, wait here, wait here. They took me out the back, actually, into an office. And then I was there for a good 10, 15 minutes. And this lady comes in after that. So Paul told me what's happening. Not that I realized she was a counselor, social worker, thinking I'm crazy. And I just told him where to go and walked out. I'm not proud of this a bit afterwards.

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I went then went to the Nord Hotel, as I was doing back then, and got pretty drunk. And I wasn't causing any harm or anything, but I was just being a bit, I don't know, trying to scream, you know what I mean? To do something. And I don't know how, but my mom had found out somehow. Maybe one of my other mates was So I went up and got rung and said, Probably come down and get Paul and take him home. He'll be all right. But she didn't come down and get me. She rang one of the cops, and then my phone rang, and it was Brentton Rowning. He was, Is this Paul Bradshaw? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I go, Yeah. He goes, Mate, I've heard you want to catch up. So I loved him. So I went into town and he didn't blink.

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My name's Brent Nrowni. I was a major crime detective at the South Australian Police for seven and a half years. I was a detective within the police for 26 years and saw 40 years service within the South Australian Police. In the next episode of Just Married: Inside the investigation by South Australian police. What was the piece of evidence that stuck out to you in that report? The blood spattered report talked about the exchange of blood that was on Mr. Hall's clothing. Whose blood was it? And how did it get there? If you take that on face value, it certainly cast some shadow on what Jeff's saying happened. If you have any information about the the Anthea Bradshaw case, you can contact me and the team behind this investigation anytime through our secure email, justmarriedpodcast@protonmail. Com. That's justmarriedpodcast@protonmail. Com. Just Married: The Anthea Bradshaw mystery is researched, written, and hosted by me, Ben Avery. The executive producer is Del Fordem. Senior producer is Hannah Sterling with sound design by the Nine podcast team.