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Hello, Hello, and welcome to Haunting, Purgatory's premier podcast. I'm your host, Theresa. We'll be bringing you different ghost stories each week straight from the person who experienced it firsthand. Some will be unsettling, Some unnerving, some even downright terrifying. But all of them will be totally true. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In 1980, while El Salvador sat on the brink of war, one man held together the fragile piece, Archbishop Oscar Romero. He was brutally assassinated in front of dozens of his loyal followers. His death marked the start of a civil war that left more than 75,000 people dead and a million more displaced around the world. My family includes both, those that fled and those that died. Listen to Sacred Scandal: Nation of Saints on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

This is Let's be clear with Shannon Dordy. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. But-hi. Hi, everyone. Did you hear the unacceptable? Do you guys recognize that voice? No. Because even if I weren't looking at this person, I would still recognize that voice. But you're listening to God, what's the name of the show now? Let's be clear with Shannon Dordy. Let's be serious. I have Holly Marie Komes back. I know you're all very excited about that.

If you don't recognize my voice, you will recognize my far too loud laugh. I try to lean back.

That's good because it's loud. Holly is here because we wanted to- Because I live here.

How dare you?

Because she picked out her room here. Grand Gardens all the way. Yeah. It's just prepared for her all the time when she's like, Okay, flying in. It's a big panic moment for me. Why? Because Claudia, my housekeeper, who's a family member, I heard her and I'm like, Oh, my God, we had to make sure it's really clean.

I do believe I've lived with you since I was 22.

But it's always been clean.

Yes. I know.

Because nobody sleeps in that room. Nobody cares. I know, but I don't want you sleeping on sheets that have been not changed for 10 days.

What parties are you having here?

It's none. Nobody goes in that room. But But if you don't wash your sheets for 10 days, they get stale. That's disgusting. Do they? Yeah.

Goodness. Who knew? I didn't know.

Anyway, so I have you back on because I just want to talk about that House of Hallowell. Okay. Yours and Brian and Drew's podcast.

What about it?

It's really good.

Thanks. It's really good. We just try to have a impressed, and I felt the connection between the sisters, and I felt that family unit and people who... They didn't have anybody anymore. Grams died, mom was dead, the father was iffy at times.Absolutely, yeah.They had each other. That was their nucleus. I really felt that in rewatching it and was like, Of course, people connected to this because you're connecting to that feeling of family. If you are struggling with your own family, with your own identity or anything else, you can compare yourself to those characters who also struggled with their own identity and struggled with who they were, but always had one another. That's important. I get it. I get 100% why people connected with the show so much.Yeah. From doing the conventions, 24 this year, to hear people say, I had a really abusive family life, and this was my one hour of peace. To hear people say, I watched this with my mom, and she just passed away. Can you sign this picture to her and me? I can't even comprehend it, and I don't think I ever will. It was terribly important to me, as you know. You're probably the only one that knows how important it was to me.As important as it was to me. We really went in there the two of us going, This is an important show. We want to make the absolute best. We were very serious about it, particularly that first season, establishing ourselves. You and I would constantly go in either your trailer or my trailer and have conversations and go through the scenes and be like, Okay, this feels odd or this feels odd. Maybe we need to change this to this. It might as well have been another David Kelly show on HBO. We looked at it Yeah, super serious. In such a serious manner, which I think was amazing because it's why the show shifted and why it stayed. All I can really speak about is the first three seasons because that's the only ones that I was a part of. But for the most part, it stayed very entrenched in reality, even though we were dealing with all of these demons and warlocks and blah, blah, blah. It still felt real.Yeah. The family aspect of it for me was a big deal because you know that I don't have a big family, and you know that we became family even before the show. So family is obviously what you make it. Clearly, I'm sitting here today. Don't. Shut up. It's the same for other people, too. Hey, thank you very much and good night.No, I know it's the same. I get a lot of that as well, as you know. I get a lot of people, a lot of gay men who are like, I was really struggling with who I was and my identity and connecting with the sisters and how they struggled, but then they embraced it. They weren't scared anymore of being witches, and it made me feel comfortable enough to come out and talk to my parents about it. That is a huge honor to be a part of somebody's life in that capacity and to have helped them in any way, shape, or form.Yeah, it's Really, it's a very happy, fortunate circumstance that we weren't able to have many openly gay characters on the show because the network would just not allow it at the time. I remember when I got Pretty Little Liars, I was like, Are we allowed to do this on television now? Because we weren't before. On Pick & Fences, I did the first lesbian and teenage kiss, and that was a huge problem for the network at the time. They blacked it out and all the other things. Really? Yeah. Having this very fortunate circumstance where people did feel like it related to them in a way where we couldn't be ourselves outwardly. It was relatable in being in the closet and how difficult that was. It really did help many, many people in a way that I think if we were to reboot it, we would address those things in ways that we weren't allowed to before.Agreed. There's a lot there. Even though there are things that we weren't allowed to do, it was just the time.I mean, your best friend is a gay man. My best friend is a gay man.In real life, you guys. In real life, my best friend, who I also call my husband at this point, he calls me his wife. But it's weird that we weren't able to address it, except in that day and age, during Charmed, you weren't- He wasn't allowed. Yeah, you weren't allowed. We never had one gay hair drawing. No. That's pretty crazy to think about. But they were able to connect with us and how the sisters band together and didn't immediately take to being witches and then eventually did. That's a really beautiful thing.When kids say, I woke up with you, or I raced home to see the show. Thank goodness for a TNT, because that's where most people saw it. There was one woman at the last convention I was at in Boston that said, I actually got a speeding ticket because of you guys, because I was racing home to see the episode.Yeah. Bless her.It's pretty amazing. I said, I hope it was worth it.He should have been a charmed fan and been Okay, I get it.She is. Well, that's when you had to actually be there to see something. Instead of binge watching, which you just did four episodes, you binge watched.It was actually five episodes.Yeah, because Hyper Soulmate is four.I mean, episode five. The only note I have is, why is Piper doubting Prue after all she has seen? What's funny is that when I watch them, I'm always like, Why are they doing this to Prue? I get so defensive of my I see. That almost all my notes- Are about Prue? Are about Prue. It's like...That's hysterical.I'm probably going to watch more episodes now.No, we're going to do it together. You're going to go through all my terrible notes with me. That's good. My terrible commentary.I actually think I should watch them again because being the first time I've ever watched Charmed- You're watching for Pru. Right. I'm watching for Pru, and now I need to go in and watch for the entire thing and all the different nuances that happen with the show.And hear my commentary, which is- And hear your commentary, which is funny because we'll probably argue about it, and then one of us will look at the other and be like, We got to save it for the podcast. Right. We can do watch parties, though. Those are fun, too. Live action.Really? How do you do a watch party?You literally play it, and we just get to talk over ourselves.Wow.People like it, and they send in comments, so you can answer them, too.Oh, as your- Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. It is. My favorite thing on doing this podcast is doing the Q&A. Right. Exactly. I just love responding to it. I love their questions.You have to learn how to do that during an episode, though. It's totally fine. It's totally fine.Greetings, goals and girls, and welcome to Haunting, purgatory's premiere podcast for all things afterlife. I'm your host, Theresa. We'll be bringing you different ghost stories each week straight from the person who experienced it firsthand. Some will be unsettling.When she was with her imaginary friend, she would turn and look at you and you felt like something else was looking at you, too.Some unnerving.The more I looked at it, I realized that the some looked more like a claw, like a demon.Some even downright terrifying. The things that I saw, heard, felt in that house were purely demonic. But all of them will be totally true. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you live and get your podcast.What's the hardest question you've ever asked your mom? Mom, what happened to your sister, Margarita? For me, it's about a murder that's haunted my family for decades.They said that they took her, and the next day, she was already dead.To find the answers, I went to the place where my family is from, El Salvador, and found that the story starts with a priest who was killed on the altar and sparked a war. I'm Jasmine Romero, and on Sacred Scandal Nation of Saints, join me as we uncover an unholy war, one that includes government cover-ups and politicians turned death squad leaders. But I'll also tell you the story of one family, mine, because on this journey, I found out that we had more secrets than I knew. Listen to Sacred Scandal, Nation of Saints, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.Babe.Yeah, babe.Do you think they can hear us?Yeah, those are mics.Guys, We are back. We are so excited. It is season 2 of your favorite New Girl Rewatch podcast. We have got a new season, we got a new name, and we got a brand new episode every week, starting July second.Yeah, I am so excited for you folks to check out this mess around. When I say it's going to get weird, it's going to get weird. Just save it for the show. Okay, that's probably for the best.We've got some of your favorite people from the New Girl universe. We've got the creator and showrunner, Liz Merriweather. We got the Max Greenfield, Olivia Munn.We also have some of your least favorites, like Jake Johnson. Lamour. No, I'm just saying if you're listing off your favorites, he'd be... Lamour. He's still a favorite. He just...Hannah, what's up? We do have Jake Johnson, though.Yeah. Listen to the Mess Around on the iHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.Listen, I think to be really upfront and honest, I'm nervous about it because you guys are very established and you three have a really good rapport with each other on the podcast. I worry about coming on right now of people's reaction. Are they going to say, Well, it was so much better without Shannon, but it's because I'm always expecting rejection or something. But here's the thing.You can't please everybody all the time. So there is that. At this point, I feel like the less social media happening in my life, the better. You just have to be true to yourself and true to our audience and why we're here and what it means. It means a lot to us. That's the thing is I don't think people ever realized what a heart project was for us. There's that. I think your memories and your interpretation of things is much more artistic than mine also. I'm just the one there, bleeding emotions. But you were very much invested in what the show looked like and the lighting, and obviously, then you directed.It's a different perspective. I wanted it to have a very specific look. The presentation was a lot more representative. It was dark. Yeah, it was dark. The show overall was darker. It was much more serious, much more dramatic, grounded show. I loved that because coming from drama, you coming from drama. So, yes, there were certain episodes that were too bright or to this or to that. The camera didn't move properly. Somebody didn't want to use Steadicam. That would always upset me because I was like, No, we can do better. We can push. Let's push. Let's push. Stop putting the camera on sticks and have it being static. Move in. Do something. You guys have Zooms, you have this, you have that. Let's get going. Let's make it different and original and look really good while you were crying.Yeah. But I was also really uncomfortable with being funny. I didn't think I was funny. You were very funny. I still don't think I'm funny. I think you came from the same background where we're super comfortable doing the dramatic, the heavy dramatic stuff. But being It's funny being light, and making fun of yourself was almost difficult. I think harshly because we knew each other before, it was easier to be light and to feel like you're in a safe space. If you make fun of yourself or you do something goofy, that it didn't feel so much acting. It was just being normal girls, which I think is a very big appeal to the show is that these are like girls hanging out together, and this is what girls do. I don't think if it wasn't you, if it wasn't me, that we would have been able to do that.I agree. I think that we're We were able to bring that out in each other because we'd been through so much prior that we had... We obviously had that connection. We were besties. We were all of that. We were able to wink, wink, nudge, nudge each other I also think because Alyssa came from comedy, so she was instantly the more lighter one that looks for those joke moments and to make something light, that she allowed us to be lighter as well. I mean, I always still dug into the drama. You did. I freaking loved it so much. I was like, anytime there was a script where it was Prue was crying, and I was like, Yay, win, score. I don't know who wants to go to set and cry for 14 hours, but I did. I loved it. But what's funny is rewatching now, you were actually very funny. How your character starts and the tilt of your head, the eyebrow twitch that you have, all of it is so piper. It's just so... It's endearing. You're very endearing on the So.Yeah. Not in real life, but- No, in real life, you're horrible. Pain in the ass.Pain in the ass. True story. So my hope- Okay. Is that- Hopes and dreams. People are happy that I joined.I'm sure they will be.People are happy that it moved to iHeart.I know you told me not to tell people, but I have told a few people, and they were really happy with the news. Really? Yeah.You chose the non-hater stuff. I know that I'm I'm thrilled to be a part of it. I know that watching it for the first time has been really interesting for me. I don't know. It's cool. We're getting to work together again in a different capacity.Yeah. I like that. You're still going to direct me, though?Yes. I mean, I'm forever a director.You forever think I can do better, which sometimes I cannot.No. Whenever I was directing and I said you could do better, you always did better. Every single time, every single time. Every time. You always did better. You dug deeper and figured out, I don't know if it was me pushing you or humiliating you sometimes. You're the only one that I would have done that with. I would never have directed anybody else like that. But because we knew each other for so long, I felt like I just knew what you were capable of.Well, you have seen the depths of my despair. Yes. Very much so. Yes. When it comes to abusive husbands, when it to very, very gritty, awful life stuff. You have seen that.I wanted you to dig there, to go to the place that nobody wants to go to at all. It's buried inside with a little lock, but I wanted you to unlock it and dig for it so that it could also be used in your performance. Whenever you did that, it was a performance that I was blown away by. All right.That's all, folks. That's all, folks.So, thanks for joining Let's be clear with Shannon Dordy and Holly Marie Combs. Looking forward, I am, to seeing your guys' reaction to the House of Hallowell. Holly, thanks for being here with me. Sure. You can now eat Pizza.We're going to eat pizza now.And probably watch some Charmed.At least two episodes.At least two episodes. That's my homework. We love you guys. See you soon.Bless it be.Hello, and welcome to Haunting: Purgatory's Premiere podcast. I'm your host, Theresa. We'll be bringing you different ghost stories each week straight from the person who experienced it firsthand. Some will be unsettling, some unnerving, some even downright terrifying. But all of them will be totally true. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.In 1980, while El Salvador sat on the brink of war, one man held together the fragile piece, Archbishop Oscar Romero. He was brutally assassinated in front of dozens of his loyal followers. His death marked the start of a civil war that left more than 75,000 people dead and a million more displaced around the world. My family includes both, those that fled and those that died. Listen to Sacred Scandal Nation of Saints on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.Hi, I'm Katie Loz. And I'm Guillermo Dias. And we're the hosts of Unpacking the Toolbox, the Scandal Rewatch podcast, where we're talking about all the best moments of the show. Mesmerizing. But also we get to hang out with all of our old Scandal friends like Belmy Young, Scott Foley, Tony Goldman, Debbie Allen, Kerry Washington.Well, suit up, gladiators.Grab your big old glass of wine and prepare yourselves for an even more behind the scenes stories with Unpacking The Toolbox. Listen to Unpacking The Toolbox on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast.Or wherever you get your podcast.

impressed, and I felt the connection between the sisters, and I felt that family unit and people who... They didn't have anybody anymore. Grams died, mom was dead, the father was iffy at times.

Absolutely, yeah.

They had each other. That was their nucleus. I really felt that in rewatching it and was like, Of course, people connected to this because you're connecting to that feeling of family. If you are struggling with your own family, with your own identity or anything else, you can compare yourself to those characters who also struggled with their own identity and struggled with who they were, but always had one another. That's important. I get it. I get 100% why people connected with the show so much.

Yeah. From doing the conventions, 24 this year, to hear people say, I had a really abusive family life, and this was my one hour of peace. To hear people say, I watched this with my mom, and she just passed away. Can you sign this picture to her and me? I can't even comprehend it, and I don't think I ever will. It was terribly important to me, as you know. You're probably the only one that knows how important it was to me.

As important as it was to me. We really went in there the two of us going, This is an important show. We want to make the absolute best. We were very serious about it, particularly that first season, establishing ourselves. You and I would constantly go in either your trailer or my trailer and have conversations and go through the scenes and be like, Okay, this feels odd or this feels odd. Maybe we need to change this to this. It might as well have been another David Kelly show on HBO. We looked at it Yeah, super serious. In such a serious manner, which I think was amazing because it's why the show shifted and why it stayed. All I can really speak about is the first three seasons because that's the only ones that I was a part of. But for the most part, it stayed very entrenched in reality, even though we were dealing with all of these demons and warlocks and blah, blah, blah. It still felt real.

Yeah. The family aspect of it for me was a big deal because you know that I don't have a big family, and you know that we became family even before the show. So family is obviously what you make it. Clearly, I'm sitting here today. Don't. Shut up. It's the same for other people, too. Hey, thank you very much and good night.

No, I know it's the same. I get a lot of that as well, as you know. I get a lot of people, a lot of gay men who are like, I was really struggling with who I was and my identity and connecting with the sisters and how they struggled, but then they embraced it. They weren't scared anymore of being witches, and it made me feel comfortable enough to come out and talk to my parents about it. That is a huge honor to be a part of somebody's life in that capacity and to have helped them in any way, shape, or form.

Yeah, it's Really, it's a very happy, fortunate circumstance that we weren't able to have many openly gay characters on the show because the network would just not allow it at the time. I remember when I got Pretty Little Liars, I was like, Are we allowed to do this on television now? Because we weren't before. On Pick & Fences, I did the first lesbian and teenage kiss, and that was a huge problem for the network at the time. They blacked it out and all the other things. Really? Yeah. Having this very fortunate circumstance where people did feel like it related to them in a way where we couldn't be ourselves outwardly. It was relatable in being in the closet and how difficult that was. It really did help many, many people in a way that I think if we were to reboot it, we would address those things in ways that we weren't allowed to before.

Agreed. There's a lot there. Even though there are things that we weren't allowed to do, it was just the time.

I mean, your best friend is a gay man. My best friend is a gay man.

In real life, you guys. In real life, my best friend, who I also call my husband at this point, he calls me his wife. But it's weird that we weren't able to address it, except in that day and age, during Charmed, you weren't- He wasn't allowed. Yeah, you weren't allowed. We never had one gay hair drawing. No. That's pretty crazy to think about. But they were able to connect with us and how the sisters band together and didn't immediately take to being witches and then eventually did. That's a really beautiful thing.

When kids say, I woke up with you, or I raced home to see the show. Thank goodness for a TNT, because that's where most people saw it. There was one woman at the last convention I was at in Boston that said, I actually got a speeding ticket because of you guys, because I was racing home to see the episode.

Yeah. Bless her.

It's pretty amazing. I said, I hope it was worth it.

He should have been a charmed fan and been Okay, I get it.

She is. Well, that's when you had to actually be there to see something. Instead of binge watching, which you just did four episodes, you binge watched.

It was actually five episodes.

Yeah, because Hyper Soulmate is four.

I mean, episode five. The only note I have is, why is Piper doubting Prue after all she has seen? What's funny is that when I watch them, I'm always like, Why are they doing this to Prue? I get so defensive of my I see. That almost all my notes- Are about Prue? Are about Prue. It's like...

That's hysterical.

I'm probably going to watch more episodes now.

No, we're going to do it together. You're going to go through all my terrible notes with me. That's good. My terrible commentary.

I actually think I should watch them again because being the first time I've ever watched Charmed- You're watching for Pru. Right. I'm watching for Pru, and now I need to go in and watch for the entire thing and all the different nuances that happen with the show.

And hear my commentary, which is- And hear your commentary, which is funny because we'll probably argue about it, and then one of us will look at the other and be like, We got to save it for the podcast. Right. We can do watch parties, though. Those are fun, too. Live action.

Really? How do you do a watch party?

You literally play it, and we just get to talk over ourselves.

Wow.

People like it, and they send in comments, so you can answer them, too.

Oh, as your- Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. It is. My favorite thing on doing this podcast is doing the Q&A. Right. Exactly. I just love responding to it. I love their questions.

You have to learn how to do that during an episode, though. It's totally fine. It's totally fine.

Greetings, goals and girls, and welcome to Haunting, purgatory's premiere podcast for all things afterlife. I'm your host, Theresa. We'll be bringing you different ghost stories each week straight from the person who experienced it firsthand. Some will be unsettling.

When she was with her imaginary friend, she would turn and look at you and you felt like something else was looking at you, too.

Some unnerving.

The more I looked at it, I realized that the some looked more like a claw, like a demon.

Some even downright terrifying. The things that I saw, heard, felt in that house were purely demonic. But all of them will be totally true. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you live and get your podcast.

What's the hardest question you've ever asked your mom? Mom, what happened to your sister, Margarita? For me, it's about a murder that's haunted my family for decades.

They said that they took her, and the next day, she was already dead.

To find the answers, I went to the place where my family is from, El Salvador, and found that the story starts with a priest who was killed on the altar and sparked a war. I'm Jasmine Romero, and on Sacred Scandal Nation of Saints, join me as we uncover an unholy war, one that includes government cover-ups and politicians turned death squad leaders. But I'll also tell you the story of one family, mine, because on this journey, I found out that we had more secrets than I knew. Listen to Sacred Scandal, Nation of Saints, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Babe.

Yeah, babe.

Do you think they can hear us?

Yeah, those are mics.

Guys, We are back. We are so excited. It is season 2 of your favorite New Girl Rewatch podcast. We have got a new season, we got a new name, and we got a brand new episode every week, starting July second.

Yeah, I am so excited for you folks to check out this mess around. When I say it's going to get weird, it's going to get weird. Just save it for the show. Okay, that's probably for the best.

We've got some of your favorite people from the New Girl universe. We've got the creator and showrunner, Liz Merriweather. We got the Max Greenfield, Olivia Munn.

We also have some of your least favorites, like Jake Johnson. Lamour. No, I'm just saying if you're listing off your favorites, he'd be... Lamour. He's still a favorite. He just...

Hannah, what's up? We do have Jake Johnson, though.

Yeah. Listen to the Mess Around on the iHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Listen, I think to be really upfront and honest, I'm nervous about it because you guys are very established and you three have a really good rapport with each other on the podcast. I worry about coming on right now of people's reaction. Are they going to say, Well, it was so much better without Shannon, but it's because I'm always expecting rejection or something. But here's the thing.

You can't please everybody all the time. So there is that. At this point, I feel like the less social media happening in my life, the better. You just have to be true to yourself and true to our audience and why we're here and what it means. It means a lot to us. That's the thing is I don't think people ever realized what a heart project was for us. There's that. I think your memories and your interpretation of things is much more artistic than mine also. I'm just the one there, bleeding emotions. But you were very much invested in what the show looked like and the lighting, and obviously, then you directed.

It's a different perspective. I wanted it to have a very specific look. The presentation was a lot more representative. It was dark. Yeah, it was dark. The show overall was darker. It was much more serious, much more dramatic, grounded show. I loved that because coming from drama, you coming from drama. So, yes, there were certain episodes that were too bright or to this or to that. The camera didn't move properly. Somebody didn't want to use Steadicam. That would always upset me because I was like, No, we can do better. We can push. Let's push. Let's push. Stop putting the camera on sticks and have it being static. Move in. Do something. You guys have Zooms, you have this, you have that. Let's get going. Let's make it different and original and look really good while you were crying.

Yeah. But I was also really uncomfortable with being funny. I didn't think I was funny. You were very funny. I still don't think I'm funny. I think you came from the same background where we're super comfortable doing the dramatic, the heavy dramatic stuff. But being It's funny being light, and making fun of yourself was almost difficult. I think harshly because we knew each other before, it was easier to be light and to feel like you're in a safe space. If you make fun of yourself or you do something goofy, that it didn't feel so much acting. It was just being normal girls, which I think is a very big appeal to the show is that these are like girls hanging out together, and this is what girls do. I don't think if it wasn't you, if it wasn't me, that we would have been able to do that.

I agree. I think that we're We were able to bring that out in each other because we'd been through so much prior that we had... We obviously had that connection. We were besties. We were all of that. We were able to wink, wink, nudge, nudge each other I also think because Alyssa came from comedy, so she was instantly the more lighter one that looks for those joke moments and to make something light, that she allowed us to be lighter as well. I mean, I always still dug into the drama. You did. I freaking loved it so much. I was like, anytime there was a script where it was Prue was crying, and I was like, Yay, win, score. I don't know who wants to go to set and cry for 14 hours, but I did. I loved it. But what's funny is rewatching now, you were actually very funny. How your character starts and the tilt of your head, the eyebrow twitch that you have, all of it is so piper. It's just so... It's endearing. You're very endearing on the So.

Yeah. Not in real life, but- No, in real life, you're horrible. Pain in the ass.

Pain in the ass. True story. So my hope- Okay. Is that- Hopes and dreams. People are happy that I joined.

I'm sure they will be.

People are happy that it moved to iHeart.

I know you told me not to tell people, but I have told a few people, and they were really happy with the news. Really? Yeah.

You chose the non-hater stuff. I know that I'm I'm thrilled to be a part of it. I know that watching it for the first time has been really interesting for me. I don't know. It's cool. We're getting to work together again in a different capacity.

Yeah. I like that. You're still going to direct me, though?

Yes. I mean, I'm forever a director.

You forever think I can do better, which sometimes I cannot.

No. Whenever I was directing and I said you could do better, you always did better. Every single time, every single time. Every time. You always did better. You dug deeper and figured out, I don't know if it was me pushing you or humiliating you sometimes. You're the only one that I would have done that with. I would never have directed anybody else like that. But because we knew each other for so long, I felt like I just knew what you were capable of.

Well, you have seen the depths of my despair. Yes. Very much so. Yes. When it comes to abusive husbands, when it to very, very gritty, awful life stuff. You have seen that.

I wanted you to dig there, to go to the place that nobody wants to go to at all. It's buried inside with a little lock, but I wanted you to unlock it and dig for it so that it could also be used in your performance. Whenever you did that, it was a performance that I was blown away by. All right.

That's all, folks. That's all, folks.

So, thanks for joining Let's be clear with Shannon Dordy and Holly Marie Combs. Looking forward, I am, to seeing your guys' reaction to the House of Hallowell. Holly, thanks for being here with me. Sure. You can now eat Pizza.

We're going to eat pizza now.

And probably watch some Charmed.

At least two episodes.

At least two episodes. That's my homework. We love you guys. See you soon.

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