Former President Trump was heard saying recently to a room of his biggest supporters that whenever he has a question about the military, he calls the same guy, Florida congressman Mike Walsh. Walsh currently sits on the Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees. But before that, he was a member of one of the US Army's most specialized forces, the Green Berets. In this episode, Walsh joins us in our Nashville studios to discuss everything military from the state of the forces under President Biden and how they could be deployed to help defeat the Mexican drug cartels. I'm DailyWire Editor-in-Chief John Vickley. It's May 26th, and this is a Sunday edition of Morning Wire.

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The following is an interview between Daily Wire Investigations Editor, Brent Schur and congressman Michael Walsh.

We're here with Florida congressman Mike Walsh, who is nice enough to join us in our Nashville studios. Congressman Walsh, thanks for coming in.

Yeah, good to be with you guys. Pretty cool headquarters here. Thank you.

It was reported last week, and I've confirmed it, that Donald Trump told a crowd at Mar-a-Lago that when he wants to know about the military, he calls you. I don't blame him. You're the first Green Beret to be in Congress. I want to know what advice Trump is getting when he calls.

Well, I'll just say up front, it's not as though he needs a ton of advice. However, some of it is what I'm hearing out of the Pentagon, what's this nonsense or that nonsense going on. I've talked to him one time, I recall, about testimony from the Secretary of the Army. This is Biden's Secretary of the Army, who one of her main goals is to make a carbon-neutral army, not the most lethal, the most deadly, most feared, but the least carbon-emitting army by 2030. I was walking him through this and then how she's put money in the budget for electric tanks as part of that, which he just thought was both hilarious and terrifying. We talked about Biden's electric tanks. We've talked about what's going on in Iran and going back to maximum pressure. If you just drive down the price of oil around the world below $55 a barrel, not only is Iran's economy and their war machine on life support, so is Putin's for that matter. You want to solve both Ukraine and what's going on in Gaza? Unleash American oil and gas, drive down the price of oil below $55 a barrel, and both of them are done.

Some of this stuff that's going on in the politicized military and how we've got to get them back to being lethal, back to being feared, back to a meritocracy. I don't know, man. The last time we talked, actually, it was about ship building. He loves building things. He loves construction. We were talking about the fact that, for example, just like manufacturing got gutded out of middle America, ship building has all gone overseas as well. Even if he comes in in November and he said, We need a 500-ship Navy, and we need to be back to being a great maritime power, we don't have the steel, the aluminum, the wrench turners, the ship yards anymore. Just by point of comparison, so people understand how bad it is, China last year received orders for 1,500 ships. We received orders for five. These are tankers, cargo ships, things you need to make the economy go. I released a national maritime strategy on how we get back there, take his leadership to do it. But those are the things.

Okay. Well, I wanted to ask about China. If China were to make an aggressive move towards Taiwan, with our current state of the military under Biden, could the United States successfully stop China? And if not, what would Trump need to do? What would he need to build to make it so?

I think today, Yes. What I worry about is two, three, four years from now with where the trend lines are going. I don't know. For example, China is cranking out ships at a rate of six of theirs to one of ours, and ours are getting old and dilapotated. They're on track to have a 400-ship Navy. We're retiring more ships than we're building and heading towards 250. They can concentrate all of theirs in the Western Pacific. Ours are spread all over the world. Those, just by sheer mass and force of numbers, we're getting into a really bad spot. They're tripling their nuclear arsenal. They're launching more into space than us and the rest of the world combined. Everybody joked about Trump's Space Force with all the space cadet jokes and what have you. It was actually very serious. It was, thank God he did it. I'm convinced that any other president, the Pentagon, would still be dragging their feet. Wasn't until Trump fired the Air Force Secretary, who was resistant, and then suddenly We overtweet, by the way, and the general's got religion. We now have a Space Force that is actually helping us regain that edge.

I think if we get him back in, then what do we need to do? Well, one, we just need a culture of lethality. Two, our dollars have to go a lot further. Treat the defense budget more like venture capital and private equity, where you get results quickly, and if you don't, you move on. You have a lot of companies like Palmer Lucky with Anderol and others that are trying to innovate. They just can't break through the Pentagon bureaucracy. But we have to move quickly. The dollar has to go further, and we need to have a culture focused on winning.

Okay. I just want to ask about a few other places where the military is needed. Moving on to Iran, increasingly hostile in the Middle East through its proxies and directly with Israel. Is there a military solution to Iran's nuclear program?

I think it's a largely an economic solution. Dry up the cash. They're selling 90% of their oil right now to China. It's quite ironic. China is getting cheap, illegal Iranian oil and gas. Then Chinese money is going through Tehran buying Russian advanced equipment that the Iranians will then use to defend their nuclear sites. Then the rest of the money is going out to the various terrorist groups, the Houthis, Hamas, and Hezbollah. At the end of the day, go back to maximum pressure. Just a few years ago under President Trump, ISIS was largely defeated, Iran was broke, and you had the Abraham Accords breaking out, and the Iranian economy and regime was in survival mode. The thing they care about the most is their money and the regime staying in power. As more you have them looking inwards and trying to survive economically, literally the less money they have to sow mayhem around the Middle East, much less finance their nuclear program. We got to cut off the cash, and it worked. It was working, I think we should be doing a lot more of it, disrupting the supply chain. They're buying things illegally and illicitly all over the world, all of the components to make a nuclear program.

Where are they getting that cash? Then Even if they do, say they test a bomb, then they have to miniaturize it, get it on top of a warhead, and then start producing them at scale. There's still a lot we could do to shut them down economically and make sure they literally can't afford a program.

Okay. Last year, you proposed authorizing military force against the Mexican cartels. What would be the goal and what would it actually look like? It's not actually the troops marching across the border.

Yeah, the media, especially during the primary debates when President Trump has been saying it for a while, but then Governor DeSantis threw it out during the debates. It was actually a bill that Representative Crenshaw and I both introduced. Look, we've done this before. We did this in Colombia. The media spun the whole thing as Republicans want to send the Marines into Mexico. No. What we're talking about is military resources, military support to law enforcement. Customs and Border Patrol, federal agents, they don't have spy satellites, they don't have drones, they don't have offensive cyber. So what would it look like? It would look largely like what we did down in Colombia when we took down the Medellín cartel, helping the Colombians. We can also do that with the Mexicans. We can start disrupting their communications. We can start hacking into their systems. We can start disrupting their cash flow. We can intercept precursors. We can put secondary sanctions on Chinese firms that are knowingly providing the precursors to the cartels, knowing that they're going to kill 100,000 Americans. You know what? If maybe a missile flies through a window in the middle of the night, I don't know.

But we want the cartels running scared. Right now, just so people know, they are fighting the Mexican army. This isn't like the Mafia. This is like ISIS. They're a paramilitary force. They are heavily armed. They're shooting down aircraft. They control about 30% of Mexico at this point. They're fighting the Mexican army to a standstill, shooting up their vehicle, shooting up their helicopters. This is a paramilitary organization with billions at their disposal. If you changed it from Jalisco and Saint Aloa to ISIS and Al Qaeda, it wouldn't even be a debate. Just change the names, it wouldn't even be a debate that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year. We need all hands on deck.

Yeah. In terms of cartels running scared, I wanted to ask you about DEI in the military because we've talked before about how it's hurt morale and it's hurt recruiting. Do you think it's hurt our image globally? Do you think when Daily Wire reports on some nonsensical DEI program at the Pentagon, do you think our enemies are reading it and laughing at us and less scared of the United States?

Well, look, I think first and foremost, militaries still respect our military capability, but they do not respect the current commander in chief. You can have the most technologically superior military in the world. But if your enemies and adversaries do not respect and fear the person leading it and the political will to use it in the right way, then you see what we see right now, which is deterrents crumbling all over the world and our adversaries on the march all over the world. Then you layer on top of that. I think that's not a nice to have, but a sad to have on top of when you see the current leadership talking about a carbon-neutral military, more focused on renaming bases and putting Chinese-made solar panels on them and then rolling out plans for electric tanks on top of it, the no charging stations in Ukraine or Africa, last I checked. I think that adds insult to injury, frankly. Again, it's the trend lines of where is that taking us? It's having very real effects. We have the worst recruiting crisis right now than we've had since Vietnam. The army missed by 45,000 soldiers the last two years.

That's multiple divisions worth. The Navy, if this continues, they're not going to be able to man ships. When they miss by 6000, as they will this year, an aircraft carrier's crew is 5000. Just to put it in perspective. It's incredibly serious. I am more worried about those men and women who want to jump out of planes and kick in doors. And yet they tend to come from military families. And when polling shows 65% of military families would not recommend their son or daughter join under this administration, that's going to have an effect. It's going to take many years to dig out of.

Do you think it's reversible, though?

I do think it's reversible, but it's going to take a change in leadership. Polling shows that a A lot of military families point to Afghanistan and that disgraceful, despicable withdrawal, point to real lack of focus and purpose. Young men and women don't need inclusion. They need purpose, and they need mission, and they need to have confidence that they're going to be ably led. Then also, we just passed two measures. One, banning CRT, critical race theory in our military. Now, we've just got to enforce it. Then two, we're going to expand junior ROTC in high schools. When you have young kids that are learning leadership, discipline, followership, teamwork, mission, purpose, right place, right time, right uniform, positive role models, they respond. But we have to have a leadership that reflects that. What we currently have is one that believes America is more a problem around the world, and there's that inherently racist and inherently misogynistic and colonialist reflecting the progressive left. Then we have one that says, You know what? You want to kick ass and jump out of planes and kick indoors for the greatest nation, not perfect, but the greatest nation that's ever existed on Earth, then come join this military.

That's the message. I think when they hear it again, hopefully this November, then we'll reverse the trend.

All right. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming in, congressman Walsh. We hope to have you back.

All right. Great. Thanks.

That was Daily Wire Investigation's editor, Brent Schur, speaking with congressman Mike Walsh, and this has been a Sunday edition of Morning Wire.