Republicans have increasingly sounded the alarm over the use of the justice system against not just President Trump, but his associates, legal counsel, and even his supporters. From the handling of the J6 cases to federal and state-level lawsuits against Trump and his allies, Conservatives say the era of politically-driven welfare is offending American principles and having a widespread chilling effect on free speech and freedom of association. In this episode, we talk with Harmit Dylan, a Republican Party official whose law firm has represented Trump, about the law fair trend and how it can be reversed. I'm DailyWire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley. It's Sunday, June 23rd, and this is an extra edition of MorningWire.

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Joining us now to discuss the law fair trend is Republican Party official and Dylan Law Group founder, Harmeet Dylan. Thank you so much for coming on. First, let's start at the top with Donald Trump. We've seen an unprecedented series of cases brought against a former President and the leading presidential candidate. Are the, quote, unquote, conspiracy theorists correct? Is this a concerted effort to take down a presidential candidate coordinated at the highest levels of his rival political party?

Well, I think they're absolutely traceable to coordinated leadership in the Democratic Party. It's not just the White House, although it does include the White House, but it also includes congressional leaders. You start with the January January sixth Committee Investigation. That was used as, first of all, an extended commercial for Democrats producing primetime theater out of hauling citizens, including prominent advisors and supporters of President Trump, in front of Congress to answer staged questions as if it's a TV show. It was produced like that. Some of the production included Nancy Pelosi's daughter being there at the January sixth proceedings, somehow, coincidentally, filming a documentary. You start with that, and then the evidence that was gathered in that whole process was ultimately used and parceled out to other prosecutors. First of all, it was all handed off to the special counsel appointed through Merritt Garland, who is, of course, answerable to the president. He's You can count on to do two different prosecutions in two different courts. Of course, that's also purposeful to give the maximum amount of effort to have multiple proceedings happening at the same time, tying up the president, his team, his supporters, and with law fair in that regard.

Then you have the two state criminal prosecutions and one civil prosecution in New York, both of which are on the criminal side incredibly flimsy. In one case, the Georgia prosecutor and her team are shown in logbooks as having made multiple visits to the White House. In the Alvin Bragg prosecution in New York that just concluded, you have a very senior United States Department of Justice, number three official, Michael Colangelo, lent out, seconded to the DA's office in New York to help them. And so all of this points to DC, points to coordination at the highest levels of the Democratic Party, and points to using the events of now, almost four years ago on January sixth, as a way to block Republicans from getting elected, and specifically to convict President Donald Trump, and timing it all to have a crescendo during an election year.

From what you've seen in terms of the reception of the public about these lawsuits, the federal lawsuits, the conviction in New York, the case in Georgia, is this tactic working against Trump?

Well, it's working in one sense, which is it's given Democrats a talking point, and the hope is to persuade non-committed voters, and certainly Democrats and independents, to stay away from him. That's a talking point that is resonating with some people, I'm sure. At the same time, I think the overreaching aspect of it and the coordinated aspect of it and the multiple attempts to use extremely flimsy efforts to quote, unquote, get Trump has created a sympathy backlash, certainly amongst wavering Republicans. I would say from what we've seen, he has increased support in certain minority communities that he hasn't had before. I think people are viewing President Trump as being the unfair victim of persecution here. How those competing threads are going to add up at the election time, it remains to be seen.

Now, it's not just Trump who's faced what many say is legal persecution. A lot of people associated with him, including former attorneys, have been indicted. Can you speak to that? What have we seen in terms of lawyers targeted for what appears to be political or ideological reasons?

Well, this is unprecedented in the United States. What we have seen is multiple attorneys being prosecuted, first of all, indicted in some of these criminal cases involving the alternate electors. You've seen that in Wisconsin, you've seen it in Arizona with multiple electors, and you've seen it in Georgia. In some cases, you have the same person getting indicted multiple times, including after they pleaded guilty. This has happened to Jenna Ellis, for example, and Kenneth Chesbrough as well. They've still, after pleading guilty in Georgia, gotten indicted in other courts. That's unprecedented. You've seen bar investigations being brought against lawyers for President Trump. Right. Again, we have not seen that in the past. In California, John Eastman has lost his bar license in the trial here, and in addition to being indicted in other courts. Sydney Powell has also been dragged into bar court, although she just survived a challenge in Texas. It doesn't mean she'll survive it in other jurisdictions. The purpose here is, first of all, yes, they've painted with a broad brush in indicting people. But I think the intention of that effort is to scare lawyers away from representing President Trump. Every lawyer in the litigation world pretty much has partners and employees and pressure is brought to bear on these lawyers who want to support President Trump as a lawyer by saying, You might get indicted, you might lose your license, you might lose your livelihood if you do this.

The easiest thing for a lawyer to do in that circumstance is to decline their representations. It's not worth it for most people. That is not something we've seen in prior years. We've had some very shady behavior by leading Democrats, and no one went after the bar license substances of the lawyers who did their fateful duty under our legal system to represent them. That is extraordinary demogogory from the top and the Democratic Party.

Could this have a broader chilling effect on attorneys representing other conservative clients?

Oh, I think it has had that effect 100%. From a risk management perspective, a lot of the law firms you saw step up to represent President Trump, for example, in 2016, won't have anything to do with him today. It's become controversial amongst lawyers. I'm one of President Trump's lawyers. I've been representing him for several years now, and so are many lawyers at my law firm. There are very good lawyers representing him who've come together to do that. But the pool is definitely narrower than it used to be. That's the goal. When you see the lawyers who got indicted and the electors who got indicted in these multiple jurisdictions, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia, some of them have had a hard time finding counsel. Nowhere has this been more acute, actually, than DC, where where the folks who were indicted for participation in January sixth have had a very difficult time finding lawyers in DC who can represent them. I mean, I probably get requests on a rolling basis every month for people, and there's just a very small handful of lawyers to choose from. It's deliberately done in such a way that people are not getting fair trials.

You mentioned the J6 cases. Broadening this out. We have seen the prosecution of people that are average citizens, and we've also seen some whistleblowers on the right, for example, Dr. Eitan Hyme from Texas, who blew the whistle on trans procedures being conducted at a hospital there. We've also seen some journalists that lean right who the DOJ and other major entities have gone after. Is this truly a broader trend in terms of prosecution of conservative citizens?

Well, yes, it's extraordinary. You can contrast what's happened starting with January sixth. We protect peaceful protest in our country. If it gets out of hand, yes, as a protester, you may be prosecuted, arrested certainly, usually ticketed. You might have to answer for minor misdemeanor offenses. Or not. If you're a BLM protester in the summer of 2020 and on a rolling basis after that, where there was significant property damage, rioting in multiple American cities, nothing really happened to those folks. There was no accountability. That includes protests in DC and protesters that have even created disturbances in the capital. But the way the January sixth protestors were treated, including folks who simply just walked through open doors with no evidence of having pushed a cop, broken a window, done anything even remotely violent. Some people I know have been indicted and prosecuted and convicted of oral conduct, just saying words on the steps of the That's unprecedented. That has definitely been used as a rolling basis to really terrorize supporters of the right. That's just one example. I mean, you're seeing journalists get prosecuted. You're seeing this physician in Texas, of all places, be prosecuted for allegedly a HIPAA violation.

Who knew that one could be prosecuted for that? In fact, one can only be prosecuted for it if the whistleblowing happens to target a sacred cow of the left, which is the lie that you can change your sex through surgery and that children are appropriate vehicles for that experimental procedure. So today, anybody who seeks to challenge a liberal orthodoxy and is smart and is reading the media is pausing and thinking twice because we have crossed so many different barriers in our civil conduct today and criminal conduct that never were crossed before. Prosecuting lawyers, prosecuting whistleblower physicians, prosecuting journalists. We're becoming desensitized in a way to the shocking excesses of the Biden administration and its supporters.

Final question, what can be done to reverse this lawful trend?

Well, some Conservatives would like to turn it back by threatening that when we have power, we will wreak similar retribution. In my view, two wrongs don't make a right. There may be some need to prosecute officials who exceeded their constitutional bounds. I think that's fair. Who conspired to deny Americans of their speech rights. That's appropriate. We have conspiracy law in this country. But overall, I think the way that we win this is to stand up to it and make ourselves It's too numerous. We have to win elections, and then we have to govern fairly and appropriately. That may seem polyamish, but I am a profound believer in our United States Constitution and in freedom of speech, including the freedom of speech of people who disagree with me. I would not recommend that a Republican administration ignore the Constitution. But I do think that the officials who conspire to suppress truthful speech about vaccines, about the pandemic, about the 2020 election, about BLM rioting and violence. I think that's illegal, and we should stop that. We should punish it, and we should make sure it doesn't happen again in our country. We should not be afraid to get to the bottom of it.

I think our Republican leaders in Congress have been too shy to really do hard-hitting probes and demand accountability. For example, people are being prosecuted in our country, advisors to President Trump, Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, are being prosecuted for the identical conduct that the current attorney general himself has done, that is, refusing to respond to a subpoena from Congress, and that the Biden attorney general did. Same thing, just simply ignored subpoenas. Well, guys in Congress, guys and girls, they have inherent criminal contempt authority. I understand that Anna Polina Luna has introduced a measure that says that if the current attorney general doesn't respond by next week, then they can go after him and arrest him through the sergeant at arms. I'd love to see that because fair is fair. I don't think anyone should have been prosecuted, certainly either of the two presidential advisors, they had immunity, and they were prosecuted and convicted in, I think, rigged proceedings nonetheless, and we really can't have that. So hopefully, at least that particular wrong is righted. That's what I think we need to really get smart on the and be prepared for these tactics and understand the rules of engagement have changed and meet those changes.

Well, you said the word fair there, and I think that this ends up coming back to fairness for so many Americans. And many are very troubled by what has just taken place over the last few years, really shaken the confidence in the justice system in the courts. Let's hope this can be reversed. Thank you so much for coming on.

No problem. Take care.

That was Harmet Dillon, founder of the Dylan Law Group, and this has been an extra edition of Morning Wire.

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