Hey, Sarah, what is your go-to tip to save money on groceries?

When you're at the store and you're looking at the price of an item on a shelf, also look at the price per ounce or price per unit. That's the smaller number on that label on the shelf. In some cases, it might be cheaper to buy two smaller containers and have the same amount of an item versus buying one bigger one.

Good tip.

What about you?

I'm all about curbside pickup. That saves me time, and it also stops me from buying random groceries that I do not need.

That's great because time is money. Absolutely.

Well, this episode, we are going to help our listeners save money on their groceries. Welcome to NerdWallets Smart Money podcast, where our goal is to help you make smarter financial decisions one money question at a time. I'm Sean Piles.

And I'm Sarah Rathner.

This episode, we are going deep into tax season 2024, answering questions like, What's new about filing this year? When will I get my refund? And do I have to?

The answer to That last question is, sadly, yes, because as we know, death and taxes are the two things no one can avoid. But before we get into that, we're going to go grocery shopping, which is a much more light-hearted topic, usually, and we're going to help you save some money while we do so.

Yeah, this is not exactly a supermarket sweep, but it's as close as we're going to get on Smart Money. We're talking with NerveWallet writer Alana Benson about how she saved $800 on groceries over five months by changing the way she shops. Alana, welcome back to Smart Money.

Hey, happy to be here.

So Alana, we We usually have you on here to talk about investing, but you recently wrote an article about how you saved some serious cash by shopping for groceries in a new way. So what's your secret?

It's funny because I'm already such a bargain hunter. I have all the coupon apps in my phone, and I follow all the little advice for saving money at the store. But this one just fell into my lap, and I'd never really heard about it before. And the secret was just eating way more plants. And this all started because I was having some health issues and my health care provider just recommended increasing my veggies intake. And after a couple of months, I was like, my grocery bill is way lower than it used to be. And I hadn't even thought about the potential financial savings at the beginning.

Yeah. Okay, so How exactly is shopping for more veggies-focused meals more affordable? Were you just buying lentils in bulk?

Yeah, pretty much, honestly. Lentils and chickpeas. And turns out they are just way more affordable than me. So my focus was never really on cutting anything out of my diet. I tried to just focus on adding in a bunch of plants. But one thing that made it easier was just swapping things in, like lentils and black beans for ground beef and tacos, for instance. And you add the same spices, you have guac, you have chipotle, aoli, and it honestly felt pretty similar, except for the cost. As time went on, I ended up just saving more and more money. Apparently, that's pretty typical. A 2021 study from Oxford University found that vegan diets reduced food costs by as much as one-third. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. In October of 2023, the average cost of a pound of ground beef was over $5. If you replace that meat with chickpeas, you can expect to pay around a dollar for a 15-ounce can. If that's the only change you're making, and even if you just do it a couple of times a week, it can end up saving you a lot of money in the long run.

That's really interesting. I want to go more into the health benefits that inspired this change in your diet and had these great financial outcomes for you. Can you talk with us more about that?

Sure. And before we get into this, I just want to say I am not a doctor, I'm not a nutritionist, and this is solely based on my personal experience. And food is a very, very personal thing, and I just want to make it abundantly clear that we are not recommending any way of eating here. But as you were saying, yeah, I'd been dealing with some pretty intense stomach problems for a while. And I heard about a podcast where there was a specialist talking about how a plant-based diet could with my condition. And I had a family member who also saw a lot of health benefits doing a similar thing, so I figured it was just worth a try. And at that point, I was three years into trying to fix my stomach problems, and I hadn't had any success with traditional medicine. So I figured, just why not try it?

Yeah. I mean, like you said, you were adding and not subtracting, and subbing out ground beef for chickpeas wasn't really going to make your situation worse. So sure. Absolutely. Why not?

Yeah, exactly.

The naysayers might say that vegetarian diets are not exactly known for being exciting. If you've ever seen a bag of like, tan lentils, it's like the most boring-looking thing of all time. And I say this as somebody who has tan lentils in a cabinet in my kitchen right now. And also, many people might think that not eating meat, especially if you cut it out of your diet, entirely means that you're depriving yourself of not just nutrition, but also delicious meals. So how did you work through these challenges and make yourself both delicious and nutritious meals?

Yeah, there's a lot there. So I have always been a foodie. One of my favorite things when I'm traveling is to just go super hard on the local cuisine, if that's cheese, wine, meat dishes, whatever it is. I love that. And I've always hated vegetables. Steamed broccoli is the most disgusting thing in the universe to me. Yeah, cosign. So at first it was definitely a challenge, and I wasn't sure how it was going to go, but I started out really, really slow. So the first thing that I did was about a year ago was to cut out dairy after I'd been adding in some vegetables. And it turns out that I'm very lactose-intolerant. So as much of a bummer as that was, I did actually feel quite a bit better really fast. And so it became like, okay, do I want to feel pretty sick from eating this, or do I want to feel better? For me, that just personally, that was a choice that became pretty easy. Then I just started going to the grocery store, and I challenged myself to just pick out one new vegetable that I'd never tried before and add it into my existing meals.

So one day I'd try a romanesco, and then I tried a kohlrabi, and I just figured out what I liked, what I didn't like, and how to prepare these vegetables. That felt like a little avant-garde to me. And that just felt like a fun exploration instead of cutting stuff out. And it was a gradual change. And over time, honestly, my taste changed. And so once I realized the savings potential, That was a big thing, too. I still eat meat. I just do it a lot less often than I used to.

I really like your spirit of exploration with this because I also eat a mostly vegetarian diet. I'm not super strict because absolutism is just not how I live my life. But when I was re-getting into a vegetarian lifestyle, because I did this in college as well, what helped me was finding fun recipes to try out. I got a good cookbook that had pretty accessible recipes And I just dove in and I was like, okay, I am going to make that lentil soup to start with. And then I'm going to branch out and make this really wild pasta that I'd never even imagined before with chickpeas and all sorts of fun spices in it. And that just opened up my world to new ways of eating. And I also saved a decent amount of money while I was doing that.

Yeah. There's a lot of ways to find that inspiration. I found a lot of really great recipes on TikTok. And on TikTok, you can see them in action. You see the sauce and everything. And so it makes it feel really enticing. And I started picking up magazines again with recipes, like the physical ones. And for some reason that was helpful. Another trick is to think of international cuisine or global cuisine and look at recipes from regions that naturally gravitate towards more meatless dishes or dairy-free dishes just because in those parts of the world, dairy or meat isn't as popular or accessible. Those are the kinds of things. If they're just naturally not in that recipe, you don't really have to worry about subbing things in or having it not taste quite like it's supposed to because they just naturally don't have those ingredients.

Yeah. And I'd say I love to cook. I am pressed for time with cooking now that I have a baby, and when he gets home from daycare, I don't have infinite time to throw meals together. But just adding that challenge has made me get more creative in terms of the recipes that I do decide to make during the weekdays. What can I meal prep early in the day If I have a little break during the day, can I dice an onion and put it in a container in the fridge? Can I dice a few other vegetables? Can I start a recipe early? Can I do something in the crock pot, throw it in in the morning, let it cook all day so I have dinner ready by 6:00 PM? So really just like rethinking not just what I cook, but how I cook and what's realistic for my lifestyle right now. And I feel like a lot of people who are listening might be feeling the same. There's something so exhausting about realizing every day that you have to keep feeding yourself and it takes effort.

You So it's like, Again, I just did that.

It's like, I just ate. Now I have to make more food. And it's exhausting. And so honoring where you are. And if you're having a day where you can do something elaborate, great. But if you're having a day where you just want to let something simmer on the stove and then mix it up and then pour it into some bowls. That's also valid. And that is something that keeps cooking sustainable for me and keeps me from getting more takeout, which is really expensive. Yes. Getting takeout for two, even from a pretty simple place, is 30 bucks. And doing that a few nights a week really adds up. So just being honest with yourself about how much effort you're willing to put in and just finding recipes that actually match that level of effort really helps.

Yeah. Totally.

So Alana, you saved $800 over five months by switching up your diet. I need to ask, what did you do with that money?

That's obviously such a classic nerd wallet question. I actually didn't do anything very responsible with it, but I did put it towards a vacation in Costa Rica, which felt like a little reward for being so focused and strategic with my vegetable eating.

Yeah. I'm going to call that trip self-care, and thus it is responsible and money well spent.

Yeah, totally.

That money was definitely invested.

Yes.

Not into a brokerage account, but into you. And I love that.

Into me. Into my well-being.

Well, Alana, thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

This episode's Money Question is coming up next. Stay with us.

Hey, listener, before we move on, I want to tell you about a podcast that I think you'll enjoy if you like Smart Money, the 10% Happier podcast. 10% Happier has one guiding philosophy. Happiness is a skill that you can learn. So why not master it? The show is hosted by Dan Harris, a journalist who had a panic attack on national television and then set out on a journey of transformation. He's now on a quest to help others also achieve peace and happiness. Every week, Dan talks to top scientists, meditation teachers, and even the odd celebrity in wide-ranging conversations that explore topics like productivity, anxiety, enlightenment, psychedelics, and relationships. The interviews cover everyone from Brené Brown to Sara Barilas to Sam Harris. Think of listening to 10% Happier as a workout for your mind. Find it wherever you listen to podcasts. We're back and answering your real-world money questions to help you make smarter decisions about your money. And This episode, we are digging into tax season 2024. That is you filing your 2023 taxes this year, which is 2024, in case anyone was confused about that. So to help us answer all sorts of questions about filing your taxes this year, including what's different this year, when you might get your refund and how to actually go about filing your taxes, we are talking with Bella Avila from NerdWallets' Tax Team.

Bella, welcome to Smart Money.

Thanks so much for having me.

Before we get into questions, a quick note that Bella, Sarah, and I not tax pros. This is not financial advice, just some nerdy food for thought as you, dear listener, think about your own taxes this year. With that out of the way, Bella, let's start off with a question that might be on a lot of people's minds, especially if they are inclined to procrastinate. What is the tax filing deadline this year?

It's April 15th this year. If that date seems to be creeping up on you a little bit, remember that you can always apply for a six-month extension, which extends your deadline to October. This gives you more time to file your taxes, but it doesn't actually give you more time to pay them.

Another important date people may want to know when you get that refund money, assuming you get it. When can people expect to receive their tax refunds after they file?

That's a little bit of a tricky question because it really depends on how you file your taxes rather than being a specific date. Filing your taxes online is definitely a way to get your refunds sooner. Usually, you can expect your refund about 21 days after you file your return. If you filed online, your return was error-free and you chose direct deposit as your refund method. But mailing a return means the IRS could take up to four weeks just to process it, and you could wait up to six months to get your refund.

If people want to check where their refunds are, there is an app for that. The IRS has an app called IRS to go. That's the number two in there, where you can see when your refund should arrive. Also, if you don't want to download an app, you can also just use the Where's My Refund tracker on the IRS website.

That's like tracking a package. If a package was of your own money back. So not too bad. So with all that in mind, let's talk about what's new this year. And by this year, I mean for 2023, tax-wise. What should people be aware of?

Some good news is that the IRS increased the income threshold for its free file program. For those of you who might be unfamiliar with that, each year, the IRS gives taxpayers access to brand-name tax software for free. Some software partners even let you file federal and state returns at no cost. Trust. Anyone who made $79,000 or less in 2023 is eligible for the program this year. Then a brand new thing for 2024 is that for the first time ever, the IRS created its own free tax filing software called DirectFile. Direct file is being rolled out in phases, so it's still in its early stages, and it's only available in 12 states. It can't be used to file business or self-employment income. You have to take the standard deduction, and you can't claim certain credits that you might otherwise be able to. Then it's also worth noting that direct file doesn't prepare state returns.

Sean, I know your state, Washington, is one of the 12 where you can use direct file. So are you going to use it this year?

I was going to, but then I looked at my tax situation and I realized it is a little bit complicated. I'm going to hire a CPA to do my tax return this year, which is a first for me, but maybe in the future, if my taxes become simple again, we'll see.

If you live in one of the 12 pilot states and you have a simple return and you had already they plan to take the standard deduction, this could be an option to consider.

Okay. Speaking of the standard deduction, that got an update this year. What's happening there?

That's right. When filing, people can choose either the standard deduction or they can itemize the deductions. The standard deduction is definitely more popular because it's easy and it benefits most people. It's also indexed for inflation, so that basically just means the amount you can deduct gets bigger each year. For this filing season, the standard deduction has increased to 13,850 for single people and those married filing separately. It's $27,700 for people married filing jointly and qualified widows or widowers. Then finally, it's $20,800 for heads of household.

Last year, a number of people had to restart paying their student loans. Sorry, everyone. But there is at least one bright side of that besides your student loan balance starting to go down again, and that is potentially being able to write off student loan interest when you do your taxes. What should folks who have student loans know about that?

There's something called the student loan interest deduction that can shave off up to $2,500 for retaxable income for interest you paid on federal student loans in 2023. So this can be interest you paid on a student loan for yourself, for a spouse, or a dependent. There are some stipulations, though, because it is the IRS. You can't claim this deduction if you're married filing Separately, if you're modified, adjusted gross income is above a certain amount if you're dependent among other things. But there is one nice thing about this, which is that you don't have to itemize your deductions to take this. I'd recommend reading IRS publication 970 for all the details.

For those who might be curious, how do you know what your tax rate is and how is it calculated? Because there's always people who are like, Oh, I don't want to get a raise because then it's just going to completely get eaten up by taxes, which is not true. How do tax rates and tax brackets work, essentially?

Yeah, that is a common misconception. There are actually seven federal tax rates, and portions of your income could be subject to different rates depending on which brackets you're in. A bracket It provides income into chunks so that it's not taxed at that one rate. Then, of course, filey statuses come into play here, too. If this all sounds really complicated to you, don't fret. I'll show you how it all plays out with an example. For Tax Year 2023, which is the taxes we're filing this year. If you're a single filer who made, say, $70,000, the highest tax rate you're subject to is 22%. But you want to note that I said highest. That's a keyword here. Not all of your income is taxed at the same rate. The first $11,000 of your income is taxed at 10%, the next chunk up to $44,725 is taxed at 12%, and then it's only that last chunk of your income that's taxed at 22%. But to see how this shakes out for your specific tax situation, you can visit our tax brackets and rates page.

Now, let's talk about the process of actually filing your taxes. Many will be debating whether to use the IRS's direct file if they live in one of those 12 eligible states. There's also a free file, and folks might want to use the tax software they've been using for years. Then if they're like me, they might be hiring someone to do this work for them. Let's talk through the pros and cons of each option.

How you file your taxes is very individual. It depends on what your needs and priorities are. Some people might want to file as cheaply as they can. Some people might want to file in a way that saves them the most time, and the list goes on. There are three main ways that people file, though. You can file on paper, you can use tax software, or you can work with a CPA or another tax preparer, but I'll run you through each option. You can file an individual income tax return on paper by filling out a 1040 and then mailing it to the IRS. This isn't necessarily recommended, though, because as I mentioned before, if you are owed a refund, it can take quite a while to get to you.

Yeah, I'm guessing most people aren't going to go the paper route, and instead, they'll opt for something like tax software because that's a little bit more user friendly and a little bit faster, of course. What should they know about using tax software?

There are a lot of really great tax software options out there to choose from. As mentioned, the IRS runs the free file program, and then there's the new direct file option. Then, of course, there's your big name tax software companies like TurboTax and H&R Block that also offer free filing for simple tax returns and then pay packages for more complex returns. Most of these online tax software are user friendly. They ask questions in a Q&A style and then fill out all the forms you need in the background for you. With some of these packages, you can also upgrade if you want extra help from a tax pro along the way, but that'll usually bump up the cost of your prep.

A quick note for listeners that TurboTax and H&R Block are nerd wallet partners. Bella, how does hiring a CPA fit in? Can you describe who this is best for?

People who have more complicated tax returns, like maybe someone who's self-employed or has tricky investing income, might choose to get hands-on help from a tax pro. But there aren't rules around who can and can't work with a tax preparer. If you have a simple return, but you just want the extra assurance, hiring a pro could make sense for you. But just be sure to check the credentials of whoever you work with.

I'll say that after many years of waffling and whether to hire a CPA EPA or not, I had a bit of sticker shock when I found out how much it was going to cost me, hundreds of dollars, really. But that said, my tax situation is a little bit complicated this year. I'm trying to harvest some losses with investments. So hiring an accountant is simply the best way to go for me right now, and it's worth it for the peace of mind.

Yeah, I used to do my own taxes. And then when I got married, not only was I filing jointly for the first time, but at the time, my husband was self-employed. Later, I was self unemployed. Now, neither of us are self-employed, but we've just really enjoyed passing the bulk of this task on to somebody who knows a lot more than we do about taxes. It's probably some of the best money we spend all year.

It's worth it to not feel stressed and to not have another task to accomplish, right?

Yeah. Well, hopefully, all of you who are listening have been saving up if you think you might owe money, extra money in your taxes this year. But if you didn't, and you find yourself in a bit of a bind because you have a big tax bill, what are some options that are out there? Can people make a deal with the IRS? Are there any payment plans available? Does it go on your credit report? What can people expect if they have a huge tax bill?

It's definitely a reality that some people might not have the needs to pay a huge tax while they weren't expecting in a big lump sum. But I'm here to ease people's worries a little bit. As you mentioned, the IRS has payment plans, and requesting one does not go on your credit report. They're long long-term and short-term payment plans, and which one is right for you really just depends on your specific tax situation. Long-term payment plans can work for individuals who owe $50,000 or less, and short-term payment plans can work for individuals who owe less than $100,000. On a long-term payment plan, you pay in monthly installments, and you get up to six years to pay off your debt. On the other hand, short-term payment plans have to be paid off within 180 days. Make sure you read the fine print when applying for payment plans, as there may be extra fees for setting up the plan for card payments, et cetera.

All right. Bella, as a tax nerd, do you have any final words of wisdom for our listeners as they embark on tax season 2024?

Taxes can definitely be an intimidating topic, but there are so many great resources out there to help you navigate its complexities. Prep by researching different filing options, payment plans if you need one, credits and deductions, and more to set yourself up for stress-free filing this year.

Great. Well, Bella, thank you so much for talking with us.

Thank you for having me.

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