That's another reason I don't look at the playbook, is because it's fucking stupid. Nobody in their right mind goes out there, playside gap, comma, number two. No, the center guard are going there. I got this motherfucker.

It's just for communication when you come off the field.

How many times is there on a playbook? It'll be a route. But in your head, you know that, Hey, if this guy's...

You know what I mean? I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper.

You're barely ever not running what's on the paper.

I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I got to go 10 yards.

What are you? Are you fucking bullshitting?

Welcome back to New Lights, ladies and gentlemen, presented by Wave Sports and Entertainment. It brought to you by Subway. Oh, wonderful. Make sure you get those all-new footlong sidekicks at the closest subway to you right now. We're your host, I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother Jason Kelsey, coming from the University of Cincinnati. Natty, Cleveland Heights, Ohio's finest right here. That's right. Or at least you'd like to think so. Subscribe on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Follow the show on all social media @Newheightshow with one S, and check out our official fan club also at newheightshow.

Com. Yeah, with one S.

Sorry, I screwed up my setup, so I'm reading things off my phone. All right, Jason, why don't you tell the people what's coming up?

All right, now we got a great episode for you guys coming up. We're going to be talking about what it's like to transition into the NFL. We've We got a fan conspiracy theory, which who doesn't like a good conspiracy theory? And as usual, we're keeping tabs on Trav. So, yeah, who knows where he was this week?

Pretty sure everyone knows.

But first, as always, new news. New News.

New News coming in hot.

That's right. Shorty Awards. New Heights has won the Shorty Award for Best Sports Podcast at the 16th annual Shorty Awards or Short Awards. And we're also Also selected as an Audience Honoree for Sports Podcast. I don't know what that means.

I don't know what any of this means.

We were also selected as an Audience Honoree for Sports Podcast, which means it received the highest number of votes from the public.

Nice. Thanks, 92 percenters.

Thanks for giving us another award. It's big. Full list of nominees, New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelsey, Nightcap, Ocho, and Sharp, Shannon. The Joel Clatcho, Big Noon Conversations, and All the Smoke.

All the Smoke, baby. A couple of my favorite basketball guys.

Is that a basketball one?

Yeah, All the Smoke is, yeah.

All right, a beer bowl to the deuce. 92 percenters. Remember, there is still time to enter your name and for the... Gosh, this is so weird the way he's written.

We're killing it.

Remember, there is still time to enter your team in the second annual Bier Bowl. Link to the submission website in the description of this video or podcast. And also a new news, I need some hecklers.

We need hecklers. Yeah.

B Philly is having their first annual golf outing. It will be June 17th of this year, so we're looking to have a lot of fun with it and do it a little bit different. And one of the things I'm pretty passionate about is I want each and every member that is golfing in that golf tournament to feel what it's like to play sports in Philadelphia. The only way I know how to do that is to recruit some of the most ruckus, rambunctuous Philadelphia sports fans and best shit talkers in the Philadelphia area to heckle all of them while they're teeing off. I think that's one of the great pastimes of being a professional sports player in Philadelphia is enduring the wonderful fans of Philadelphia. During tough times, and they can really get to you. So I thought it'd be fun to let everyone experience that firsthand.

This is gold.

Problem is, I don't really know a lot of the best hecklers, and I thought just asking fans for your recommendations would be the way to do it.

I think this is a great idea and a great way to go about it. Really just go out on the podcast and tell everybody, Hey, if you want to talk some shit to some familiar faces.

Yeah.

Aka, if you want Jason... Because Jason just said a week ago, two weeks ago, he doesn't want to do a roast because of this, this moment right here.

No, no, no. This is way different.

For you to go out on the ledge. It's way different. Just be like, Hey, guys, come and roast me for a hole.

No, I'm not talking... I don't have any problem with people talking shit. I'm talking about the roast things in front of TV and how personal it is. Whatever. We're not going to go. I'm just saying I think this would be a lot of fun for a golf tournament. Things that we're looking for. Yeah, have you ever climbed a grease pole or have you ever been arrested at the link? Or the vet. We'll take link or vet. We'll take link or vet. You know you're pretty good if you're getting players to turn around at you in the middle of games.

Yeah, if you get a player, if you break them, like the guys at the Eagles Niners game.

Oh, yeah.

Got to old nick Bosa, man. Joey got to Joey Bosa.

Well, Joey wasn't playing, though. I'm talking about if you're on the field and you're on the bench, all of a sudden, you're getting heckled so well that you have to turn around mid-game. It's like, man, you're probably pretty good at talking shit.

Has anybody ever got you?

Somebody, when I was playing in Oakland one time, I still had long hair at the time, and they said, 62, you look like Bill Bergie's daughter, which was pretty good.

Did you smile? Did you laugh at it?

We were all laughing. Me, Lane, all the guys, we were laughing our ass off. It was great.

That's a good one. If it's good, I'll probably... That's actually That's actually a good point. I don't know if it's a bad shit talking or it's a disrespectful one, probably not going to turn around. That's not what I'm looking for. If you have some good shit for me, though, I'll turn around and give you a nod. Exactly. That was pretty good.

That's a good one. Yeah, I agree. That's what we're looking for. We're not looking for people to be assholes or to make fun of people's families. We're looking for people that are actually funny.

But if you're going to make fun of someone's family, just make a good one.

No comment. If you would like to participate, please tweet at New Hyde Show with why you are a definitive heckler or whoever you're nominating. You don't have to nominate yourself. If you know somebody, put them out there. We would love to hear from all of them. We are going to select our favorites to participate, who can also be there and want to participate. But yeah, I want to make this as fun as possible. Maybe we can film some of it and have a highlight show real. Maybe we'll show on New Heights or something like that.

I would fucking love this.

I think it's going to be great.

Damn, we might need somebody from New Heights there now.

Jets Jake, hop on a plane, baby. Jets Jake. Sorry, buddy. Don't know what you thought you were doing June 17th.

But you're in. Let's just give Jake an actual mic, and he's probably pretty good at heckling. He's a Jets fan.

Now we got to let him heckle at least a couple of people. Do we do it on a par three? What hole do we... I feel like par three, closest to the pin needs to be a heckle hole.

It's definitely par three. It's got to be a one-shot type deal. It's got to be... You know what I mean? You get one shot If they hit the green or drop it close, it's 100% got to be a par three.

We're turning around with other rules. What do you think about this one? Mulligans. If you want a mulligan, your mulligans, you know they usually give you little cards, you pay for them, and it's like 30 bucks a mulligan or something like that. What if mulligans are a beer, and you have to turn in your cans at the end of the round. If you want a mulligan, you can take a mulligan, but you got to buy a can of beer, and you got to chug that beer before you hit your next shot.

I think you should make it because you could do a mulligan a hole, and between four guys, it's like 18 beers can be done.

Yeah.

I don't know. You might have to make it two. If you want to mullet, you got to chug a beer.

The other one I thought of was... Sorry, go ahead. You're still talking.

No, you got to finish two beers by the next two holes or so.

I don't want people to be stumbling over. I just want to have some fun with it.

Well, then what's the point of saying you get the point of making it a beer.

Because then it's a choice. It's like, listen, if you want to take the mullet, take the mullet, but you got to drink the beer.

Yeah, you're going to get hammered if you're going to keep taking mulligans.

Exactly. Which, for me, I feel like it levels a playing field because there's a lot of guys that can drink really well, but they can't play golf very well.

We don't play with handicaps. We tell everybody if they want a mulligan, they got to drink. Yeah.

We're just making the tournament a big drinking game.

Bier Bowl, golf tournament.

I also thought about, is there a hole that every member of your team has to finish a beer before the end of that hole? You have to turn in your can to the attendant hole at the green.

Exactly. If one guy does it, all four of you have to... Yeah, I like that one.

Or maybe it's if you all... We don't want to force people to drink, but if all of you finish a beer-Yeah, I'm about to say a good point. If all of you...

I'm about to say it. Not everybody's in on drinking like that.

If all of you finish the beer, then you get to subtract a stroke.

I don't know. You're going to have to iron this thing out, but it does sound like a good time.

What are some other ones that you've done that are fun?

Some of them, you can go out and get a golf ball launcher.

I've seen that. It's a gun.

Yeah, it's like a gun.

Jons has had that in his before.

Those are good. I forget what else. I got nothing else for you. Hacker Hole, I think that'll be a game changer. That'll be a fun one.

That'll be a fun one? Yeah. Then we'll just let people play golf, I guess. That's why they come. I guess we just figured it out. Cool.

Well, that does it for a little new news. Let's jump into fan mentions of the week. All right, now, let's move on to some fan mentions. Our first fan mention is more of a conspiracy theory from freelove_freeway on Reddit. This is the theory, Travis Kelsi will be announced as part Of the cast of Happy Gilmore 2. Is that true? I didn't even know there was a job opening for Happy Gilmore, too. But if there is, I'll be a fucking extra. I don't know anything. Just get around a Happy Gilmore or Adam Sandler film or set. Count me in. Obviously been a huge fan of the Sandman, but yes, this is exactly what it says it is, a conspiracy theory. Who knows? A theory Theories can come true. Theories can be true, and just people don't know about it. I might even be in the talking, and nobody knows about it, but I could also not be in the talking.

Well, the conspiracy comes from... It doesn't It seems like there's a lot of evidence. There's three parts of this conspiracy there. Part one, on the podcast, of course, Arnold alluded to the Kelsey Brothers being in LA to set up movie deals. Part two is Travis has been wearing this hat for a couple of weeks.

Yeah, I mean, it was a great hat.

Part three is just Happy You're More 2 was just announced. There's really no evidence to support this whatsoever, essentially.

Other than the movie is getting made and I'm looking for movie deals. It's about that way.

We love Adam Sandler. We're just in line with about a thousand billion other people.

Trying to think of what role and maybe the old one. Would I be the Jackass guy? I'd be the one heckling from the crowd.

I mean, that's a good role.

I did just do a game show. I did just do a game show. Maybe play the Bob Barker role. Oh, you're not Bob Barker.

Let's be honest, you're not Bob Barker.

I'm not even close. I'm not even close. That was wishful thinking.

Dude, I really think you got to be involved with shooter somehow. You You could be shooter. What about shooter's catty?

Did shooter even have a catty? I don't even remember him having a catty.

I don't think he did, but now he might and happy get more, too. Listen, like Happy's got his catty, which is an iconic homeless guy that he dressed up and he's cattying for him. Shooter, who's like Mr. Big Shot, has a professional tight end being his catty. I think it works pretty good.

I could be shooter's catty. You could be Happy Gilmore's catty.

I'm not taking- No.

You fit the homeless- No, no, no, no, no, Homeless, Neanderthal caveman.

That catty was perfect from Happy Gilmore One. I'm not doing anything with that.

You know nothing about golf.

I feel like shooter McGaven would have- You don't wear draws.

I think he washed his underwear in the lake.

He was washing his draws in the lake. Yeah.

So I can't come out. That's definitely your move for sure.

I don't wear underwear, so this is not my move. No, but think about this. I'm serious. I think if shooter was going to have a catty, it would be like some random celebrity. I feel like who better than to be the caddy than professional tight-end Travis Kelsey? Because he's going to want to show off that he's shooter McGaven. He's like, Look, Travis Kelsey came in my bag. I don't think it's going to happen.

I don't know.

No? You're not seeing it?

No. But like I I said, I'll do anything in the movie.

What is there? What else could there be?

I'll be a part of it any way I possibly can.

It's hard to know without knowing the script.

Such a good movie, though. It's a great movie. Such a good movie. Actually, it's making me want to watch it right now.

Who's your favorite Happy Gilmore character?

I'm a little biased, but I'm going to say Happy Gilmore.

That makes sense. He's pretty good in it. He's so good.

The Loose Canon Hockey Player Turned Golfer. I fucking love that shit. God, it's so good.

Chubs is the best of me. It's It's only just begun. Begun.

What a magical. To live. Just go to your happy place.

White lace and promises.

Okay, Jason.

Look, Jeff. Got my hand back.

Just go to your happy place. A lesson learned. Thank you, Happy Go-Mor. Whenever I'm upset, I just go to my happy place.

What's your favorite Adam Sandler character? If we're going to expand it to other Adam Sandler films.

Damn it.

I know. I know what you're thinking. You thought of this, and then right away, you thought about Bobby Boucher.

Dude, I don't understand how he didn't win. He was full character. I mean, I get it. It's like a comedy.

You can't tell me anybody did a better acting job than Bobby Boucher in the Waterboy.

There's only one other movie, and it's a little, I don't want to say, sillier, but he was He was full throttle, a completely different human being, Little Nicki.

Little Nicki was... Oh, my gosh.

What did he say? So good. Gosh. Little Nicki, Waterboy.

He should have won an Academy Award for best actor in Waterboy. You can't tell me anybody that year who did a better job of acting like a Creole swamp, like football. I haven't ever thought about this, but what an amazing job that was.

Dude, when you watch it, it still holds up. It's so good.

Who was the best actor that won that year?

Dude, I have no idea.

The Waterboy was released in what year? November of 1998, one day after my birthday. How about that?

Really?

Yeah. The Oscar that would have been up for would have been the 1999 Oscars, right?

I'm going to say you're right on that.

Best actor actor. Roberto Benigny won the award for best actor for his leading role in Life is Beautiful. They fucked that one up.

Life is Beautiful? You ever seen that fucking movie? I'm going to have to watch it, though. I'm not going to have to before I judge it.

I don't even need to watch it to know that he didn't do as good of a job as Bobby Boucher. I don't even need to fucking watch it. There's no fucking chance. What did he play? Like a guy that was in love? Try playing a fucking Creole guy that's in love with his mama.

That doesn't know what love is.

What's the actual plot? Oh, wow. Damn it.

There goes that segment.

We've just been informed it's a Holocaust movie, so No.

Yeah. I mean, he probably deserved it.

I bet Adam could go and be in Life is Beautiful and do a pretty similar acting job as Roberto Benigny. But if Roberto Benigny tried to go be Bobby Bouchet, he would fail like a fucking miserable.

You are attacking Roberto so bad.

Nothing against you, Roberto.

But I'm in on what you just said.

Was this Bobby Bouchet's father that disappeared and then came back? It's your daddy, Roberto. It's your Daddy.

He can be like Tiger Woods. It's your Daddy. It's me, Roberto. Your Daddy.

If you were an Adam Sandler character, who are you most It's like, You want to do me and I'll do you? You can't do yourself. All right.

Yeah, I got you.

Okay, so who's Travis as an Adam Sandler character? It's tough.

He's got so many fucking movies.

I know.

I mean, God damn it. Bobby Boucher is, I feel like, your character, but it's either Bobby Bouchet or the Wedding Singer.

I was going to go Wedding Singer maybe for you. I'll take Wedding Singer.

That's a dude, he's got so many fucking good movies. So many good ones, dude.

It's ridiculous. I thought of a 41st Date.

Yeah, I thought you were going to go there.

I love that movie. I love that movie. It's classic. That's Kylie and I's favorite rom-com, with Drew Barrymore action.

Drew Barrymore, yeah.

I don't want to say this movie because it's not like an original Adam Sandler movie, but The Longest Yard, quarterback from Longest Yard.

Dude, fuck yes. I'll probably take that one. Paul Crüe? Fuck yeah. I think we about nailed it. If I can get in Happy Gilmore, too. Maybe I can get on Forty-First Dates, too.

I'll do my second movie review. I did the movie review on the twilight series. I'm flying out to LA. I'll watch Life is Beautiful on the plane ride over there, and I'll recap on if Roberto Benigny really deserved the Oscar over Adam Sandler.

It's me, your daddy. All right. Well, we also got an email from my boy, Brian Michiels. Hey. A former Cleveland Heights hockey teammate of mine. Had this picture attached. Also showing my hockey talents. Man, this was squirt. This is a little double-A squirt Championship. We ended up winning as, I believe, maybe tenure? No, they've got to be like 12, right?

No, you're middle school. This is your last year of hockey ever.

No, that's Peewees.

So you wanted it in Peewees as well?

Squirt was right before. Peewees right before you go to high school.

Peewees is right before So you won it in Peewees and squirt?

Come on now, baby.

You guys are good. Dude, you know what I forgot? How much Daily Baker looked dead on Goldberg? Look at that motherfucker. Gosh. He looks just like him.

It was before we hit our gross spurts. I was pretty heavy, too. I mean, shit, I look like a goddamn goalie, how big I am sitting in the middle. If you guys couldn't see me, Brad Shoger was fucking bumped up over there on the right.

Yeah, he was excited. Okay, I know a lot of the people in this photo, almost all of them, which I don't remember which one is Brian. Brian Michiels. Which one's Brian?

Brian is standing literally right next to me, leaning into the picture onto my shoulder, to the left of me, if you're looking at it.

Yeah, Romansky's to the other side, and then he's on the other side?

Rysinski. Rysinski, yeah. Rysinski, sorry. Matt Rysinski. My brother Matt, Michael, Chris Deetz in there, Andrew in there. Lill Frato, Shamory, Adam Shamory. Man, we got everybody. Who's that? Phillips? Andrew Phillips in that thing. You played with his older brother. Man, I'll tell you what, Mitchell Johnson as well. Man, we got the entire gang in here. Mr. Deetz, Mr. Ryder. All the Cleveland Heights hockey guys, man. I always wanted to just get the crew together one more time and just go out and play some hockey.I used to love it, man.Come on out.Let's go. One of my favorite pastimes of forever, man.

We got to get back out on the ice. We got to.

Jj, the Watts. We're still in. We got to make it happen. I hope you are.

I hope you are. We got to make it happen.

I'm not going to lie, seeing JJ rip a slap shot is fucking impressive.

No, he's got it. Dude, I went out. I tried to take Wyatt and Elliott out for ice skating lessons, and it did not go well. They're too young still. They were not ready for it, and they cried the entire time.

You You got on skates, what, six years old, seven years old?

Seven was my first time getting out there. You were younger than me. You were five.

I was five, yeah. I was really mighty might. I was terrified, though. I was crying on the bench, had all the hockey gear on, crying on the bench. Then I don't want to go. It was like it was lava in my mind. I was just like, I'm going to die. Then dad just picked me up, threw me on the ice and pushed me, gave me a walker. Sometimes they give kids the... You can on the walker until you get your bearings. He said, Just do a lap. Just do one lap. I was like, I did one lap and I looked at him and was like, I'm going to do another one. The next thing you know, I throw the walker at him and I'm just flying around, having a blast because skating is fun as hell, ladies and gentlemen. If you haven't gone, you should go and try and do it sometime soon. That was good at that. I'm really telling myself that.

Maybe that's That's what I need to do. I need to get dad to go with me for the girls because he was always good at that stuff.

He's really good at that stuff.

I still remember the bike riding when we were still in North Ridgeville. I can't get off the training wheels. I'm terrible. Dad He's running with me while the bike's going. Then multiple times until eventually, he's like, Hey, look at me. I look at him and he's not holding on, finally. I realized that I'm actually riding the bike. That was good at that stuff. Big Ed.

Yeah. Big Ed. He's a legend. You might need to just see him do it with Wyatt at one time and take notes and go from there.

Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes he might just have the magic touch.

Some people just got it.

I got Wyatt out there this year. I think I could keep doing it with Wyatt. Elliot, I screwed up because I didn't tie her skates tight enough. When she stood up, they were wobbly, and that's when she was scared. She had zero fear until she stood up with them skates on, and I messed that up big time. That was when she was like, Yeah, I am doing this. Yeah.

Eddie Babcock used to want to fucking kill me at the camps when we were kids. Coach Babcock, shout out to Eddie. Yes. When he was, I believe it was when he was still in high school.

He was a counselor. Yeah, he was still in heights.

In the '90s, yeah. So he was in high school, and he ended up being Jason's hockey coach, I believe, right?

He did.

And the high school team coach for a long time. He used to hate it because I would be like, Eddie, can you tie my skates tighter? They're not tight enough. Then we go in and he'd tie real tight, and I'd fucking go out for two seconds. Eddie, my skates are too tight. Can you lose them? Just like this little fucking kid. Fucking just tying skates the whole fucking day for this kid.

Eddie was so fucking electric. We used to play that baseball game. Oh, my Gosh.

Dude, baseball on the ice, man.

Yeah, man.

Shout out to Hyte Hockey. All you kids that are interested in doing it, man, send it. Do it. You'll love it. You'll absolutely love it, man.

Jared Lavender is the coach now, I believe, of the high school team.

Oh, nice. Hell, yeah. They played for the Missouri Mavericks for a little while out in KC.

He bounced all over the place in semi-Pro. He played a long time.

Oh, yeah. It's hockey legend right there, baby. That's right. And the Lavender family. Yeah, shout out to Brian Michael, baby. It's been a minute, brother, but I appreciate you sending in that pick, man. Once a champion, always a champion, brother. Prizepicks is America's number one fantasy sports app, and it's the most fun and exciting way to get in on the action while you watch your favorite sports and players.

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Hey, Intern What's up?

What's up?

We're outside.

Hell, yeah. You are outside.

Hell, yeah, we are. It's a beautiful patio. What? All right, your iPad's dying. You got to get out of here. Yeah, I do. I got to go. Picks for, I think tomorrow is the last, what, Mavericks Wolves game, probably. I'm going to go with Luca Mohr, 49.5 points, rebounds, assists. I'm going to go Cara Anthony Towns, less 30 points, rebounds, and assists. I think the Mavs close it out for That's my call. Travis, get back in here.

There he is. He made it.

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They'll be there.

They will.

Trav, as you might remember, you've won the Super Bowl three out of the last five years.

I know. That's crazy to even say in here, but yeah.

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All righty, let's talk some more football. This is a sports show. That's what we keep getting awards for. So we got to talk about sports.

Hey, guys.

We're still 14 weeks out from the start of the NFL season. Damn, 14 weeks? I know. It's coming up here, Trev. We are officially in the dead middle offseason mode. Why can I not in the dead middle of the offseason? I can't read it.

Welcome to my life.

Still 14 weeks out from the start of the NFL season. We're officially in the middle of the NFL offseason. But you know what never takes on? You know what never takes an offseason? Why am I fucking so stupid right now.

Yeah, man.

You're killing it. But you know what doesn't have an offseason? Nfl social media. That's right.

Not right now.

Since rookie camps and OTAs have started, a lot of NFL vets have in on the transition from college to the NFL. All right, here's this Dan Orlowski clip where he talks about an old Texans playbook. What do we talk about all the time when it comes to rookies and playing in the NFL? How quickly they can learn and then go apply the playbook.

I thought it'd be cool for everyone to understand what that process is for these rookies. Dan does a great job. He's unbelievable at explaining things. I think that he does it better than a lot. It's always fun when you can dive into what the plays look like, what the play sound like, the different verbiage and everything that different teams use. I commend him. I don't think I have a single playbook from any of my seasons. Obviously, him being a quarterback, he's got those things. He played back when it was an actual playbook. Now, everything's on the iPad.

That's what I was going to say.

I need to carry around a playbook. Go paperless. I'm a big, eco-friendly guy. He does an absolute great job, and then so does Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel took one step further and broke down some plays from an old Sean Payton Saint's playbook. I decided to pull out the offensive playbook for the Saints, 2016. Look how thick it is.

I love what Dan was saying because he was really focusing on the macro.

But But I want to focus on the micro. Chase does it great as well. He makes it really... Breaks it down and simplifies everything to the average fan.

Chase ended up breaking down one play. Dan broke down, essentially, like what it's like, everything that's in the book, how thick it is. I will say the book looks enormous, and they're hyping it up like it's that hard. And I think it is hard for quarterbacks. Most of the time, you're not recalling all the information in that book at all times. The way they install it, a lot of the information in the book really doesn't get used that much in the front half of it. There's the plays, then there's like, procedural stuff that you just do so much. It becomes second nature.

Procedural, how you identify defenses, terminology. There's a bunch of stuff in there that's like- Maybe it was just because I was with Stout.

The way they name Blitz is, there was always the name in the playbook. If you have half a brain or have ever played football It's like, Oh, yeah, it's a wham Blitz, Will and Mike. There's a lot of stuff in there that is not that important.

The importance of it is there. Like you said, you just have to know how to talk football. A lot of the stuff that's in that book is based off of, Yo, we have to be on the same page when we communicate. You can't just say, Oh, number 47 and 23 came off the edge. You know what I mean? Let's just tell me exactly who it was in terms of who we called the Mike and things like that. I hear you. Dan did a great job of talking about personnels, and that's where it really gets tricky for wideouts and running backs, understanding the personnel, understanding where you are on the field and how you have to line up in terms of splits and things like that. The concepts were a little bit harder for me to grasp than the run game and the pass blocking game. If I'm in protection, I think that, especially from the tight ends perspective, either you got the widest or it's like we're blocking this in a man scheme when it comes to pass pro and things.

All you got to know is, are you getting the help from the tackler as a tackle, helping inside to a linebacker? Is it solid or is it area?

I know exactly what you're talking about. Which is on the flip side for center, that's your heyday right there. That's the bulk of your... And you just have to be able to communicate from that point on. But I think that a lot of the receivers and running backs and the skilled players, as they call them, the skill players, the wideouts, tight ends, running backs.

Anybody who touches the ball.

Yeah, that's where it gets a little confusing. It can be a lot in terms of the concepts that are being installed because you're typically Maybe the first week to two weeks of training camp every single day, you're getting about 20 plays, 20 different concepts of past plays.

I'll be very honest. I feel like if you played football throughout college, you've run into the vast majority of this stuff. Maybe it changes a little bit. And there's all sorts of different systems and whatnot, but most systems have semblances of these plays. So you're not going in and seeing a lot of brand new stuff. You're seeing things that you did something similar in college or in high school. You're like, Oh, this is outside zone. This is what they call that. Or this is inside zone to the weak side. This is what they call that. This is what they call power. This is what they call six-man protection. This is what they call five-man protection. The biggest thing is the terminology and understanding what the names of all these plays are and how they're coached, the techniques. So there is a lot. But I still think with how it's installed, and maybe I think this because I didn't have an offseason. I got thrown in there in the lockout year. This is so crazy. Yeah. So my first year of 2011 was the year of the lockout. I didn't get a playbook until two days before training camp started.

So I went in completely not knowing what was happening. It's amazing how fast you can learn this stuff, especially with the way they install it. You're installing a few runs a day, so you get to focus on those runs, and you get to really iron out four down, three down. And then in a game, you don't run it. That whole playbook is not in for each game. In a game, when you actually go out and play, you have... Yeah, You have 15 runs in maybe, tops, and that's including... And then you have a couple of special run plays in certain situations, route concepts. I don't know. How many route concepts you guys have in for a game, typically.

I'm going to say maybe 60? I don't know. That's a good question. It definitely cuts it down, but you got about 10 concepts per situation, from base to nickel to third down package to goal line to red zone. I'm going to say somewhere between 40 and 60.

In that scheme, now you're different because you're on the field all the time. You have to know all of it. I do think tight-end is probably the hardest because not only you have to know the route concept, you have to know the blocking concepts, you know all the run scheme and all the passing game stuff. Yeah.

And that's what I've done.

And you guys are the only guys. You guys are the only guy. Even quarterbacks, even though they have to know what the offensive line is doing, even in Chase's breakdown, he said the tight end is going to kick out the end. No, the guard is kicking out the end. The tight end is folding inside. The quarterbacks aren't paying attention to that minute detail of the run game. They're really focused on, Okay, what am I killing this for? Six or seven-man box, blitz, whatever.

They'll have a good understanding of how it's supposed to be blocked, but I hear you on that.

They're not thinking about a lot of it. They know past concepts. They need to know if they're going to be hot in past game. But most of these guys don't know the intricacies of the run blocking. In tight-end, you have to know it, at least to a certain degree, the actual line calls that are happening between the tackle and tight-end. You need to know if the center makes this call, that now your job has changed within the run scheme. In my opinion, the tight-end has to know more than anybody else on the field. Is that fair to say? No.

I think the quarterback takes that. But I do think that it's a fun challenge to have to be able to get asked to do everything. I didn't realize that Until I moved to the position, and that's where I really started to find love for the game. It's like I was doing more than just catching the ball and giving it to somebody else. I was sticking my face in the fan in the run game, finding ways I can help guys out when they have the ball in their hands, running around downfield, getting blocks and getting open. I just had so much more fun in the challenge that the tight-end position gave me than necessarily the quarterback position and everything that goes on with that world. I just, yeah, I had a blast with it the minute I switched over. In terms of the transition from college to the pros, though, the biggest thing is just that communication with a whole new team, a whole new coaching staff, because you want to be able to have those quote, unquote, educated conversations with your coaches. So talking to him and saying, Oh, yeah, that was a bison, gives him...

That was a bison blitz or that was a wham blitz, or that was a wham blitz. That gives them confidence that you're seeing the field and you know your job and you know what we're trying to get done as a team, as a unit. And all that does is just make you seem more valuable than just an athlete that can get the job done. Now you're thinking of it from a team perspective. And I I think the communication with the coaches and the players around you is so much more valuable than some guys may make it. So everybody that's out there trying to learn a playbook, figure out how the coaches are communicating it, because the biggest thing for me was understanding what we were calling defenses.

Andy is unique, too.

He doesn't just use a numbering system. How we're identifying coverages. Yeah. How we're identifying the defensive front to how we're identifying the defensive to how I identify what coverage they're in.

25 front, 59 front.

Oh, yeah. I'm still getting quizz on that shit.

No, here's what happens. Do you know why the numbering system with Andy is like that? Instead of just saying over and under?

Yeah, it tells you exactly what everybody's doing. It tells you where everybody's gap is.

No, the reason it's not over and under is because it's easier for the guy putting it into the computer. The numbering system was put in because instead of saying Instead of saying under Wink- It's all for documentation.

It's all just to file it.

It's filing information. Instead of saying under Wink, they just have to put down 25. Instead of saying over Dink, they just have to put down 5.9. So now I got to relearn all this shit because you guys just don't want to type fucking shit.

When did you find this out? I haven't thought this deep into it, but that's hilarious. Is this a theory or did you actually ask why is it?

No, one of the coaches said that that's it got originated. It's because guys, when they were inputting it, wanted to... I mean, it allows them to go through more plays instead of having to write out full things. I get you.

That's funny as hell.

But anyways, no, I thought Dan did a good job of explaining exactly how it happens. I thought they're overplaying the difficulty of it, in my opinion.

You're a smart dude. I've seen people struggle with it, and I'm not going to lie, I struggled with the playbook at times.

Yeah, I mean, listen, I make mistakes Anyways, they both did good.

I thought they both did a great job. They did good. Chase through me my first countdown pass. We talked about it on his podcast with Trey Wingo or his show with Trey Wingo. Yeah, it was my first countdown in my career, but it was a preseason countdown. It was like a two-minute drill. He threw me a two-minute all-go special, which is like four verticals on Madden. I caught the ball and there was fucking nobody in front of me.

I was like, We're on Travis Ron.

Looking at It was the first time after knee surgery, I had actually tried to run away from a bunch of people trying to get help. Man, I don't know I could run that fast. Haven't ran that fast since either. Shout out to Dan and Chase for breaking those things down and doing a great job of it. And good luck to all the rookies trying to figure out the playbook. Hopefully, Jason gave me some confidence that it's not that hard.

It'll be fine. Listen, just- He learned it in two days.

You'll be all right.

Well, I learned the first install in two days, and then I just learned the next install the next day, and then the next install the next. That's why And I like... Dan brought up a good point. You install it multiple points. You install it all from square one in the offseason. They're going to reinstall it again- Multiple times. For mini-camps. They're going to reinstall it again for the season. And then each game, you're doing install. If you can't get it after all these installs, I don't know what to tell you, brother.

We got to figure it All right? Come on. What are we doing at night?

Don't get me wrong. There's going to be crazy situations that come up that you're going to miss because you're not aware of exactly what to do in all these situations.

Yeah, I That's why you need the reps. That's why you need the reps.

But I think for the most part, learning it is not that difficult. The biggest thing is the terminology. That's the biggest. And correlating all the checks and what are we call them this? What are we call them that? And how are we talking about That takes a little bit of getting used to.

Just got to learn the terminology, be able to communicate, maybe.

I think the only old playbooks I have are from Cincinnati. I have Dantonio playbooks sitting around. Do you have Cincinnati playbooks? Yeah. I think I have a Brian Kelly playbook somewhere.

Good for you, man. I would love to look at that thing.

We had playbooks early when I was in Philly, but then we switched over. I think it was like- I think Doug was actually-I think it was like second or third year. Yeah.

In KC, we started using it. The iPad, that is.

Yeah. I think Doug might have been the first one that it was all iPad. Maybe we had physical ones. I don't know. I always preferred the physical playbook.

Qps all still have…Physical ones.Physical playbook, for sure.

There's something about turning the papers and stuff like that. It's just easier for me to take in than the iPad. I hate it. But by the time it went to iPad, I never looked at the playbook one time.

You're a big notes guy?

This is the hard thing. When's the last time you actually looked? I've not looked at a playbook I mean, in years. You installed it three times a year, your entire career.

You got to look over your work.

You got to study a little bit. You've had the same tight-end coach, the same head coach. You're not installing anything new, and you're going to go over it in the meeting. Yes, we are.

No, you're going to go over it in the meeting, though. Every year, Andy Reid's got a fucking note cards that are the little note cards.

Yeah, I got you. There's some new ones, but it's not like- He's got a fucking...

What? So many new ones. Already, we've got like 100 new plays that we've just been installing in the offseason.

You are over-exaggerating this.

No, I'm not. We might not use all of them right now, but he's definitely installing them and seeing which ones he likes and which ones Pat feels most comfortable with and which ones look good on film.

Well, it's different in the past game. In the run game, there's maybe four or five new concepts a year where you're like- Run game, yeah. Where we run a counter inside zone, outside zone. What We got a lead hat. We got a fullback going in there. All right, cool. We got that one. I have heard Inside Zone installed a fucking thousand times. And I always hate the way the playbook installs it. That's another reason I don't look at the playbook is because it's fucking stupid. Nobody in their right mind goes out there on Inside Zone and says, Playside Gap, comma, number two. No, motherfucker, the center guard are going there. I got this motherfucker. Oh, the tackle is going there. I got that motherfucker. I'm not going through the playbook definition.

Oh, I got zero. You're not walking up to the line, Oh, this is the 59 front, so we got to...

But that's not... I'm just like, Okay, we're on the inside zone. Where's the first guy? Fucking here. We're doubling to that guy. You guys figure the rest out.

Like you said, it's just for communication when you come off the field. That's all it's for.

It's just because they have to have it, and they have to have a beginning point. But once you've already learned it enough, I'm not going to go back and learn the other way because then it's fucked up. It's like, No, it's not how it is. It's like this. It's like, fucking... I'm not thinking of it like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you think about it with routes? Similar? How many times is there on a playbook It'll be a route where you're breaking at whatever yardage. But in your head, you know that, Hey, if this guy's...

You know what I mean? I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper.

You're barely I'm always not running what's on the paper.

I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I got to go 10 yards- What are you?

Are you fucking bullshitting? Who are you bullshitting right now? What do you mean?

I'm just doing what Coach Reid wants me to do. I'm not fucking doing anything else.

But even the ones where you're not freelancing, how many times is it for all of the guys? I know you're fucking with me, but this is a legitimate question.

There's no just freelance, all right? There's times where I get confused and I end up in the right place at the right time. Can we get back on track?

There's no What? For everybody, like any ex-receiver, how many times is he... On paper, it says to run it and break at 10, but everybody just knows that if it's this coverage, you're going to push it to 12, or you're going to do this.

That's every single route in the playbook.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, it needs to be that. But if we're going to run routes versus air, you better fucking run it like that. Got you. It says on the paper. If there's nobody out there, I'm running it. We're doing it as the paper. Exactly like the paper, just so we can get timing. I can feel what the timing feels like of me running, hitting the break, or getting to a certain part of the field as the quarterbacks are getting ready to deliver the ball. That's when you're doing routes on there and you're just working in the offseason or you see Pat thrown with the wide receiver with no defense. That's what you're getting down. You're getting down the timing that it's taking for you to to get the ball on this certain play. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing. And those lines on the paper are... That's essentially why they're there. Obviously, every single route, in my mind, every single route has to change depending on what coverage we're running it against.

I guess this is getting in what I think I'm trying to get at, and I think you're saying it really well. My biggest advice to all the rookies learning these plays and learning your playbooks for specific plays, try not to learn your job. Try to really think of the play as a concept and understand what's happening, because you shouldn't go on a field and think, I'm the guard. I have my playside gap comma number two or one on a zone play. You should think of it like, Hey, this is weak inside zone, and this is how we're going to run it. I am going to step with my playside foot, but if the center calls this combo, I'm running that one. If the tackle needs help, I'm going to indicate his inside. You need to think about what is happening in the overall structure of the play, and that will help you regardless of what the fucking playbook says. I'm just being honest. It's more important that you understand what We're trying to accomplish as a unit than what your rule says in that sheet.

You'll naturally, with reps, get and understand those rules. You'll run something, the coach will come over to you like, Hey, if it's cover two or if it's this certain coverage, I need you to run it like that. As long as you're open ears on the practice field, you're present while other guys are running routes. When there's a film after practice and you're watching the film and everything, just be open ears in how everything's being taught to everybody in the room. I'm listening to Coach Reid talk to the runningbacks about foot placement in the run game, or I'm listening to Coach heck and how he's teaching these tackles to pull or how he's teaching these tackles to square up a guy in the pass game. I'm listening to everybody because I know that there's always a chance that I'm going to be put in a position like that, and I want to be ready for it. As long as you're open ears and you're understanding the grand scheme of thing and what the team is trying to do, I think it's like you said, you'll learn those little intricacies of the difference of running a route versus a certain coverage.

You're naturally just going to develop that instinct. But understanding the grand scheme of things from The install, I think you're dead, you're spot on with that one.

Yeah, we have one play that Stout still doesn't know how to write rules for, and it's the funniest thing in the world. He installs it every time. He's like, Yeah, just run it. He's like, I don't really know what to write down for a rule, so I just write down this. But everybody knows what they're doing.

We got a little teach tape for you guys this week, and this is perfect. This is me being an absolute idiot and just being at the right place at the It's the right time, Jason.

Hey, I love it. I love it.

This week, we're breaking down one of my catches from last year's playoff games. We talked about it after the Baltimore game last year in the playoffs, but teach tape is brought to you by Simply Safe. Hey. There's no safe like Simply Safe. There you go.

That's good.

Clip from @embraygui, Travis's crazy catch against the Ravens in the AFC Championship game. Yeah. All right. Well, you see me circled right there.

I guess, let's start it from here. It's third and five.

Basically, a three by one, a common formation in our offense. This was a play that had a kill to it. So Pat, actually in the huddle, gave us two plays. There was the first play, and then if he sees a coverage that he likes and wants to change the play to the second call in the actual call in the huddle, he'll come up to the line and tell us. He'll give us a signal or say a word that'll then change the passing concept to another play. I was thinking it was a different play. Yeah, then you got Pat Mahomes just back there with his eyes on you, running around for his life and just putting the ball out there. There's really no teach tape other than when Pat Mahomes has the ball, do not give up on the play. That's the biggest teaching point here. You got Raven Guys running into each other. You got our offensive line, Nikki Alagretti doing his job.

He's doing a phenomenal job. They're blocking their ass off.

Yeah, they're blocking their ass off right now. I'm over here picking my nose, not knowing what I'm doing. Then Yeah, once you lock eyes with Pat, you're like, Oh, shit, he needs me. So I start running around right at the last second, right before Pat gets his knees chapped out from under him. I spring loose or at least get between my man and Pat so I can box him out for the catch. This is crazy right here. The fact that Pat even threw this ball with the defender's back to him, I commend him.

Is that why he's doing that? Because you're really not that open. He just knows because the defender's back is to him that you're going to have a chance to make a better play on the ball than he is.

I think that's notorious for a lot of quarterbacks. Sure. Defender's back to you. And my eyes on him, I think that's an advantage for us, especially a guy with an arm like Pat or any of the really good quarterbacks that can just place it. Yeah, absolutely. And it was third down. He wanted to give us a chance. He knew he had no chance of getting the first down with his legs at this point. He's got all four, all five defenders on him.

We know that there's a kill involved. You missed the kill. You're running the wrong play. Let's take an opportunity to talk about scramble drill, because that's really what this turns into, right? It's a broken play.

Yeah. Each play- Pat doesn't know where to go. We're talking about the timing of the play. Typically, seven-step drop from under center is seven-step and a hitch. That's the longest Pat's going to let a play develop, essentially, or a quarterback is going to let a play develop. You'll go through your progression, seven step drop, five Five and a hitch, five and two hitches, and all of a sudden, clock's ticking. Defensive line is like they're rushing the passer, right? I got to make a decision. I either got to go somewhere, hit the check down, get out of the pocket to try and make something, shake, or just take off with my legs. So the quarterback, after that seven-step drop or after the initial play is over with, now I'm on to a completely different mindset. As a scrambler, as a guy with a broke-down play, it becomes more of like backyard football, where you got to understand the coverage and where guys are at in terms of what the pass concept is. But I knew that I screwed up the play initially. So I'm just feeling out where everybody is. Pat starts to get on the run.

It's just like, All right, just let me give him somewhere to throw the ball, see which way he's rolling out, see where everybody else is. Is it man? Is everybody latched on? Is anybody latched on to me in terms of a defensive coverage? Am I just in Frank Air? Can I find Find an open space somewhere on the field. You try not to have your eyes leave the quarterback just in case, I don't know, he wants you right now. But there are times you can peak around and see where everybody else is at, like I was doing here. I'm not going to take credit for this. This was It was all Pat. Actually, I hate that people are even giving me credit.

It was a great time catch. It was a great play and a great catch.

But I completely screwed Pat over. I'm supposed to be coming over the middle here on time, and Pat's just waiting for me to get open over the middle of the field, and I'm running the wrong route. So I hate that this is even a teach tape thing. If anybody watching this, the teaching lesson would be, one, never give up on a play when Pat Mahomes has the ball, and two, get in your fucking playbook, Travis. Balloons. I love it. You got to love the balloons every time. I love it.

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Jason, you got out of the house this weekend?

We did. Actually, we went to the shore. But we're going to talk about the one everybody wants to know about, and that's Travis. Guys got out of the house. You're not going to believe it.

I haven't been in the house. This isn't even my house.

I don't think we can all- This is just a random theater somewhere on the West Coast.

You'll never find me.

You'll never find it. You'll never find me. Well, Trev, before that, you stopped by Dallas this week. That's right.

Yeah.

You stopped by Dallas to watch the Stars game 2.

Yeah, a little NHL NBA playoff, baby.

Nhl Well, Western Conference Finals, stars versus the Oilers.

Yeah, both Western Conference Finals.

Well, yeah. But we're going to start with stars. How did the game go? I don't know. Was it a good game?

It was awesome. The stars came out, scored early. So did Edmondton. Literally seconds after they scored their first goal, Edmondton came back and threw one in the net. And then it was a dead period. The stars were just knocking at the door the entire game, though, man. It was so much fun. It was like they had at the edge of your seat, the puck is just slow motion, hits a crossbar, just goes across the crease with nobody in front of the net. It was like that the entire night. Then finally, they started cleaning up some of the rebounds and some of the shots around the net and put two in. They had an empty netter. They pulled the goalie and had almost a full-length empty netter. Oh, really? Yeah, it was awesome. Those were fun? It was a fun time. I'll tell you what, man, Dallas, I know you aren't a big fan of the Cowboys and all that. That city just is so much fun, man. Dallas? It is, man. It is so much fun.

I have never heard one good thing about Dallas.

Everybody was fucking awesome. Running into people before the game, during the game, even after the game, at all the restaurants. I had the little pregame with my guy Blake Bell and the gang before the NBA game or the Mavs game. Just everybody was awesome, man. Dallas is about as legit of a sports town as it gets, man. Both those games had the arena absolutely rocking, man. It was a good time. I love playoff hockey, man. There's nothing better than some playoff hockey, though.

It's the best.

Dude, it was so much fun.

Who'd you end up at the booth with? No, I saw Cole Hamels was up there for the Philadelphia Wolf Series.

Cole Hamels was in that thing. Shout out to Cole. Bryson DeChambeau got some free time from the live tour. Yeah, it was a good time, man. We were up there having some fun. Got to meet Marty Turco, old-time Stars goalie, legend in the stars organization. Oh, yeah, ran into Dirk Nowitzky, baby. Nowitzky, Nowitzky, however you wanted. I don't know how you pronounce it, man, but Dirk, he's the man, dude. Just the coolest dude you could ever meet. Got to talk to him about a lot of his Championship runs and just how much of a fan I was. Yeah, It was cool meeting him, man. He is an enormous human being, as you would expect a seven-footer to be, but always shocking when you walk up on one of those manas.

Those gangly...

Yeah. Dude, just so big. But, yeah, the Stars game was fun, man.

Well, I guess meeting Dirk might have been a little bit of foreshadowing. You ended up at the Mavericks Wolves game the very next night. Which one was more fun, the Mavs game or the Stars?

Man, as much as I love playoff hockey, that fucking Mavs Wolves game was so good, man. It was a good end. Kyrie went off. Dude, Kyrie out there dropping 30 in the moccasins, man. Dude, so good, man. Listen, man, I couldn't be more happy for him, the way his career has been. Obviously, bringing a championship to Cleveland and the ups and downs he had not only in Cleveland, but Boston and New York and all that, whatever happened. He's absolutely killing it. He looks like he's enjoying the fuck out of it. Him and Luka are one of the best convos I've ever seen on the court. The team compliments each other so well, man. The Mavs really did a great job of putting that team together. P. J. Washington is a great piece for them. Then on the other side, man, the Wolves are a dangerous fucking team. Each one of these games have been so goddamn good. You can't say enough about what Anthony Edwards, the type of basketball player is. When he rose up and had that dunk, and I think it was the third quarter, oh my fucking gosh. I haven't seen athleticism like that.

The NBA-NFL debate put That guy on a football field? Oh, my fucking gosh. It wouldn't be fair. That's what I'm saying. It wouldn't be fair. That dude fucking took off from what it felt like 12 to 15 feet away from the rim and was still elevating when he dunked the ball. It was unbelievable, man. The Mavs game was off the hook. The Wolves are such a good team, and Dallas is just playing flawless at the end of basketball games, man.

We had an interesting reception on the Jumbotron with the Cubs, Cowboys fans were not too happy?

I got booed twice. It's whatever.

I get it.

I get I'm not from Dallas. Why? I'm just an innocent bystander. I don't know. Maybe they... I don't know. Maybe they don't... I don't know. Maybe They just don't like the chiefs. I don't know.

If they were showing you, they had to be showing Pat, too, right?

Yeah, but it was like, they'll throw the name underneath and try and specify who they're showing. They showed me. I got caught off guard because I was trying to take a selfie with some people around me. And then Pat tapped me. I was like, What's up? I was like, Oh, shit, I'm on the Jumbotron. I heard all the boos. I'm just like, Oh, shit, I'm getting booed. Okay.

I guess this is happening. Nice.

Thanks. Nice to see you guys. Dallas, appreciate the warm welcome. And then they showed Pat and everybody was like, Yeah! The hometown kid, man. Best football player in the world. Dude, I grew up a huge Jason Whitten appreciator. The Cowboys were always the fucking boys when they had Deon and Emmett. Dude, I used to want to be a Star, man.

Shut up. Stars.

I used to want to be a star. I did used to want to be a Dallas star, but I also wanted to be a cowboy there for a little bit.

Stars on ours, dude. Stop saying that. You never wanted to be a cowboy. Why would you have wanted to be a cowboy?

Because they were fun as hell. That team was electric. Who? What team? They had big personalities.

What team?

Back in the '90s.

In the '90s, they were not bad. They're pretty good in the '90s.

I just remember having action figures of the stars.

Which ones?

I just named them all.

Well, the ones you named weren't on those teams. Whitten wasn't around on those teams.

Deion and Michael Michael Irvin?

They were definitely there.

Emmet?

Emmet, yeah.

Or Akemen?

Akemen, yeah. I'm going to be doing Monday night with them. Heard of them.

Are you trying to call my bluff right now that this never happened?

It's never happened. You never wanted to be a cowboy.

I did. I fucked it up, though.

No, they fucked it up. You didn't fuck up anything.

No, I don't. I fucked up the interview. All right, I digress, though. I think I also might need to find an outlet because I got 15 %.

Well, let's hurry up then.

We're almost there. Yeah. Shout out to Dallas, man. I had a fucking blast. Loved the NHL and NBA Western Conference finals. And always good to see when you go and enter somebody else's arena to see that thing Absolutely rocking, and the home team got to win. So I was rooting for the Dallas stars for sure. The Mavs and Timberwolves, I was in between, but I can't fucking root against Kyrie and Luka, man. Those dudes are awesome. I was more there for a good time at the Mavs game, but I was cheering on the stars.

Dude, this is one thing, too, was I didn't know you had the same exact height as Luka. What is his listed height?

He's probably 6'6. He's a big dude. I think he's got me by a little bit.

No, dude, you're fucking right next to him. You guys are the same height.

These basketball dudes- It's my Slovenian brother right there.

These basketball dudes be listing their heights.

A little bogus.

I always thought you'd be too short to play the three position at the NBA. A three is like a legit six, seven, six, eight. Right? Yeah.

But not anymore. They all said you'd be too short to play center in the NFL, too.

Maybe we fucked this up, man. You could be in the NBA right now.

I could be somewhere overseas playing- Because you're sick. You're just- I'd be playing for Connor Barwin's Italian team. What?

You're legitimately 6'5.

Yeah. Well, it's 6'4 and 7'8. That's what the guy might be. Yeah, but that's a 6'5.

We'll round up an eighth of an inch. Luke, 8, 6,7 if you're 6,4 and 7,8.

Dude, he was just chilling. He was like, he was right here. He wasn't standing all the way up. I ain't hearing it. Great dude, though, man.

Oh, yeah. Big fan. It seems like it.

Big fan. Jason, did you get out of the house Memorial We had a weekend?

Well, we went to Sea Isle. We definitely went to Sea Isle. Went to the beach, had a lot of fun with the girls, ate a bunch of beach food.

Nice.

Yeah, we had a great time.

There we go. All right. Nice, man. Glad you guys got over to the shore, man. I missed the shore.

Sure, it was fun. It was good to be out there. It was the first really big weekend of the year. All the businesses are back up and running. I love it. It's like you never left.

Heard you guys went over to Uncle Bill's.

How did you hear that? Who told you that?

Listen, I got eyes everywhere, baby.

Time out. Who told you we were going over to Uncle Bill's? Yeah, I got eyes everywhere. Got them chocolate chip pancakes.

Best pancakes in the land.

They are good pancakes.

Which one were you at? I know there's a couple of them over there.

Yeah, we used to go to the Uncle Bill's. That in Strathmere, and then that one closed. So now we either have to go to Avalon or Ocean City. So we went to the one over in Avalon this weekend. Made the trip over the bridge.

Oh, nice. You had to pay a dollar?

I had to pay... I forget what it is. I think it's two. They might have upped it. I don't know. We got the- Damn.

Sure it's getting fucking pricey. Did they keep it? Two dollars across the bridge? Fuck.

Uncle Bill's 7 Mile Special was 15 bucks. Damn. Yeah, I know, right?

That shit is good, though. $17 well spent.

I paid it.

Shout out to Uncle Bill, everybody at the shore. Make sure you guys get fired up for that beer bowl. Deuce. All right, let's move on to some no dumb questions. Hey, that's That's fine. No Dumb Questions. Hey, that sounds fun. All right, now for some No Dumb Questions. Because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just dumb people like two J'Abronis you're staring at right now. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Uncrustibles, the best part of the sandwich. How about that? From Heather Bradley on Threads. If you could temporarily live in any board game, Jumanji style, like the movie, it comes to life, which game would you choose? This is actually a pretty good question.

Let's do it.

I'm going to go ahead and say fucking Jumanji.

Yeah, I mean, Jumanji is pretty damn good. That'd be a fun one. I feel like I'm already living a monopoly. I feel like I'm not to be any type of way. I feel like we're already doing that.

The older I got, the more I understood, Oh, wow, this is like a life game.

Oh, now I get it. Battleships would not be fun. What? Dude, I don't want to be on a freaking naval war getting sunk.

The thing is, is that Battleships is just a guessing game. Yeah. There's no real strategy. It's just Oh my God.

I don't want to live in it, though. I don't want to get sunk and then drown. That doesn't sound fun. The ones that I'm not going into risk or battleships.

No, it was a fun little board game.

I'm already doing that one, so no need to go there. Which ones would be fun to go to? I think you strike me as a guy that would love to go into Clue.

I did love that fucking game growing up.

You love murder mysteries? Yeah. You'd be all over trying to figure out who'd done it.

I mean, shit. Kylie killed Jason in the basement with the sword.

I know the girls would all prefer Candyland. That's where they would want to go. I can't do that much candy. That's too much. I'm not going into Candyland.

I'm in on Candy, but not like Operation, I'm not operating on nobody or getting operated on, no. I really wasn't in on that one either. What other board games are there? What am I missing?

You got checkers, chess.

No, you can't be in that game, though.

Connect 4? No. Hungary, hungry hippos? No. No?

That's all I got. I'm going with Jumanji, though, man.

Jumanji does sound like the most fun. I mean, they made a whole movie off it, and then they made another movie off of it.

Then they made another movie off of it.

There's a third one?

I'm pretty sure there's three, yeah. Wow. Am I mistaken? Or there are only two?

Well, Jumanji- No, there's two. Jumanji, though, isn't really a board timeout. What are we talking about? Jumanji is not an actual fucking board game.

Yeah, but it's a Jumanji style.

It might be now, but you can't say Jumanji. It's not a board game.

Yeah, that's a good point. I'm just thinking I would want to fucking relive that movie.

It's a great movie.

Yeah, I guess Monopoly. Monopoly sounds like the finest.

Is there anything we're missing?

Probably.

Yeah, I guess Candyland. I got nothing.

Nice. You're going Candyland.

I mean, it just sounds like the It's a magical place. It doesn't seem like it's too serious. So it just goes to have some fun.

Nice. Can't die. Yeah, I'm just here to enjoy it.

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Oh, no.

How close are you? 10%. All righty. New Heights, show and tell. A new segment at my Beach house. There were some gifts waiting from some patrons, so I thought, But we'd share them.

What you got there, bud?

The first is we were walking around and we saw a lemonade stand.

Big lemonade stand supporter. Big lemonade stand supporter.

We were going to support it on the way back, we ended up not supporting it. So I'm upset that I never got my lemonade. When we were walking to play pickleball and we saw them, and they got a whole racket going on there, they said, Yeah, we set up right after church lets out. The church is right there, and everybody comes by and gets some lemonade. I was like, That's a pretty good system you guys got going on there.

Brilliant.

I came back to the house, and there was a little lemon before I left earlier today sitting on the note. The note read, Dear Jason, Kelsey, thank you for stopping by at our lemonade stand on 44th Street. We would like to donate some of our money to the Eagles's Autism Foundation. Go Birds, Kevin, Lucas, Olivia, Nathan, and Charlie.How.

About that?Bigg old family. You got to love that. You got to love that.

Like I Like I said, they were rolling.

Look at that. Nice. Look at that. Are you fucking kidding me? How much is a lemonade?

I think it was like a dollar. That's what I'm saying. These kids were killing it. What?

Oh, my God. I've never seen a money roll from a lemonade stand like that in my life. People were paying in 20s.

I think that that's just they gave me one.

That's funny as hell.

It's impressive.

That's good stuff, though, man.

I had another one that I think was It's left. I mean, this one might have been out there for a while, but it says, Mr. Kelsey, my name is Vinnie Lynch. I am 10 years old. I am a big fan of yours and your brother, Trap. My dad showed me some videos where you were wearing a luchador mask. We thought you should have one in the eagles's colors, so we brought you a gift. You were kind enough to take a picture with me at Yum Yums before. Thank you for being so nice. I know it must be tough since so many people ask you for stuff. So I wanted to give you something. Your friend, Vincent Lynch. Ps, my mom thinks we are crazy for giving you a mask, but we think it is cool.

Nice. You got another luchador mask.

Well, here we go, kids.

Oh, that thing is gnarly.

That's one might not fit.

Oh, yeah. You know, you remind me of what we say, Ron?

I know exactly who you're about to say from Billy Madison Billy Madison.

The teacher. What is his name?

The Revolting Blob.

Dude, so good.

That might be my wrestling name if I had one. This one's good. I dig this one.

Dude, that thing is sweet. Did you keep the one you actually wore on Russellmania?

We got to send that back still. But yeah, I still got that one.

You got to send that back?

Oh, no. I got the Russellmania I got three Lucho-Mans now. Oh, you're talking about the KC one. I got to get that one back to you.

Yeah, we got to get that one back.

We want to encourage more of this engagement from our fans. We love it when you guys send cool stuff, but please don't send it to our house. We're going to set up a PO box. We're going to set up some systems.

It's too hard. I already told you guys, you send it to my house, it's getting sent right back.

We're going to find ways that you guys can send things, and it will get seen. Please don't send us anything that you want us to sign. We're not going to sign it, or anything that you really need to set back because that's not happening either. But anything that you think is cool that you want us to have, that we think is cool, that we might throw on the show like this nut sack bowl. Yes, send it on our way, guys.

Yeah. We'll make sure you guys get the PO box, and I'll tell you what.

Mail time, mail time, mail time, mail time. All righty. Nice. Maybe that becomes a segment. We'll see. That's it. We're done. This one's in the books. Show closed.

Finito.

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No, it's spring.

Nice. Is it chilly out?

It was rainy today. I wouldn't say chilly.

It looks like something, a cardigan that you would wear in the winter.

Sometimes I like to wear cardigans inside the house because it feels comfy.

Like a robe?

Half a robe. I guess that's what a cardigan is. Never thought about that. Not a big robe guy, but I do like a good cardigan.

I'm going to get into robes. Robes? Yeah. What a robe is your- A robe, sometime. When you wear a robe outside, like a coat, it looks like a cape.

A little bit, yeah, especially if you don't have a tie up front. What robe are you going with? Velour? Oh, no.

Not like a four-way. Oh, he's got a good one. Versace's got a few good ones.

Versace? They're known for robes?

Versace, yeah. Versace.

Versace is... Is that Gucci?

It's a tie, yeah, I believe.

Like dresswear? I mean, I've heard of it. I'm not acting like I've never heard of Versace, but I don't think I've-Yeah, you've seen Versace before. It's like Men's Wears House?

Yeah, basically.