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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to on Purpose. It's your host, Jay Shetty, and I am so grateful and so thankful that you're here right now. It is incredible that you've chosen to invest in your health, your happiness and your healing by tuning in to on purpose. And thank you so much to each of you that have left a review. You shared it with a friend or a listening every single day. Now, I'm sure you've heard people in your life, or a friend, a family member, someone you know, say something like, it was right person, wrong time, right. He was the right guy. It was just bad timing or she was perfect. It just didn't make sense right now. And this idea of there being a right person at the wrong time has kind of become culturally quite big thing. We saw it in movies like La La Land where you look at Emma Stone's character and Ryan Gosling's character, who, you know, you want them to be together. You're yearning for them to be together. You're dreaming for them to be together. They seem destined to be together. And yet it was right person, wrong time.

And today I want to break that down because I've been thinking about it a lot, and I've been talking to a lot of my friends. I've been listening to a lot of you. I've been talking to a lot of experts on the show, and it's pretty clear that most of them agree that there's no such thing as the right person at the wrong time. I know it's painful to hear it. I know it's uncomfortable to hear it. And I know some of you right now are saying, no, Jay, what are you saying? But I promise you that it's not a hopeless thing for me to say. It's actually going to redirect your mind in a healthy way. So when you say there's right person, wrong time, it's often something we say to make ourselves feel better about the one that got away. Oh, yeah, they were the one that got away. They were amazing. Oh, they were so special. That could have been amazing. Or we say it to make ourselves feel better about an inconvenient truth. We don't want to accept. We don't want to accept that we were in a bad place. That they were in a bad place.

We don't want to accept that there wasn't this perfect relationship out there. And so we can't accept that inconvenient truth. And we keep saying it to ourselves, oh, they were just the right person at the wrong time. I'm sure you've all said people in your life maybe say, hey, I miss my ex. You know, they were amazing. Or like, oh, like, even though they were bad, like, they weren't that bad. Like, they were actually great. Wait a minute. The one that treated you badly? Wait a minute. The one that you always used to complain that made you feel insecure? Wait, you're talking about the one that never showed up on time and canceled on you? Wait, you're talking about the one that cheated on you. Like, it's literally that bad sometimes. And we convince ourselves that there was a right person at the wrong time. Nostalgia is really, really interesting, and it does one of two things. In some cases, it makes the past seem worse, but in most cases, it makes the past seem better. It amplifies the good stuff, and it overshadows the negativity, the stress, the overwhelm, and the challenges we felt back then.

So I wanted to do a bit of understanding about this, because I think we have a pretty weak understanding of nostalgia. And if you talk to most people, they'll say their favorite experience are from college. Their past experiences were better. Their relationships were amazing. Like, we often look at our past through rose tinted glasses. Now, I'm reading this from a couple of references. The first is from the memory and reward systems co produced nostalgic experiences in the brain. This is 2016 July from Noriuchi. And then I'm also reading from Barrett. These are two journals that I found through neurology, live. So, nostalgic experiences stimulate metabolic activity and blood flow in several regions of the brain. Interestingly, people who rated higher on the effective neuroscience personality scale, which measures a person's tendency to sadness, were more prone to experience nostalgia. This correlation does make sense, as people who generally experience stronger emotions should experience a range of powerful feelings, whether those emotions are happy or sad. But nostalgia itself is not linked with depression or any other affective disorder. In fact, one study linked nostalgia to an overall trait of resilience. So, nostalgia is something that we use positively, but it can be positive emotionally, but it can set us on the wrong path mentally, as we make decisions.

So let me explain to you why nostalgia feels good from that neuroscience perspective. The reward centers of the brain are activated during nostalgic activity. This reward center involvement explains the very common phenomena of feeling pleasant emotions upon hearing a song from the past. Even if the song was not necessarily a favorite song at the time, it was prevalent in popular culture or in a person's life. Now, listen to this. This is the most interesting part to me. The positive responses evoked by nostalgia can help protect people from emotional burden of a situational disappointment and even from anxiety. That's exactly what we're talking about here, that there has been a situational disappointment and the feeling that we look on it positively. Oh, right person, wrong time. It actually emotionally protects us. But that doesn't make us make good decisions. We can often live in the past. We can linger on and make a relationship last too long. We can feel that we missed out on something and that it got away. We can feel that anything we experience today isn't good enough. It's not the same. When used as a coping strategy, a person can deliberately trigger feelings of nostalgia by listening to familiar music, looking at old photos, or visiting comforting environments of the past.

And this is one of the reasons why I I think it's so effective when people use a burn box to burn old memories. I remember Nessa Barrett talking about that on the podcast. She has a song called Burn Box. And this idea of, like, you don't want to hold on to those memories. You don't want to keep them present for you, to keep creating or recreating nostalgia for you. And this is where the study gets really, really interesting. Nostalgia can be so easily provoked that it is possible to become addicted to the pleasure of nostalgia. Just as a person can become addicted to any activity that stimulates the reward centers of the brain. Nostalgia can be used excessively as a crutch. And the positive feelings of nostalgia may serve as a substitute for living in the present day if current real life troubles take more effort than a person can tolerate. Oh, my gosh. Like, I'm reading this and I'm hoping you're having the same reaction as me going, wow, I get it. I get what I'm doing to myself. I'm using the right person, wrong time as a way of making up for the fact that dating is hard right now, as a way of making up for the fact that things aren't going great right now.

And hey, in the short term, it's a great way of staying positive and keeping up beat. But long term, it's letting me down. It's making me turn away great relationship prospects. It's making me judge people differently. It's making me close the door on other people that actually deserve a chance. Like where is nostalgia tripping you up now? I want to give you a kind of light example to do with this. If you look at where we are in society today, there are so many reboots, right? So we had a reboot, or IP based on the past. You have the Barbie movie, amazing movie, great movie. But again, we're using IP from the past because it sparks nostalgia. How many of you watched that and had a nostalgic feeling? If you happen to own a Barbie or a Ken now? Super Mario Brothers. Same thing I remember back in the day having to go to my friend's house to play on their Nintendo, and the Super Mario's brothers movie comes out and all of a sudden it's past ip being rebooted. You've got the Pinocchio remake, you've got all the live action movies coming out. You've got the Sex and the City reboot.

So there's an interesting thing in society where we have all these reboots that are often based on. Well, not often based. Always based on playing on nostalgia and triggering positive nostalgic feelings. But guess what? Is the reboot ever that good? Is the use of old IP ever as satisfying? Will the new Jurassic park ever be as good as the original one? Like, it won't. And there's something in that. Like there's this false excitement that we have, but it doesn't actually follow through. And a lot of us, this other study from Yang and Bacho says that we aren't just longing for our past, we're remembering a romanticized version of our past. This line in the study completely sums up what I'm trying to say, that we're not just longing for our past, we're remembering a romanticized version of our past. According to Batcho, there's a reason our memories become fonder over time. Why? The negative bits tend to fade away faster, the study says. Take parenthood, for example. Remembering things as better than they were serves an evolutionary purpose. If people were to remember things faithfully to the original, most women would never want to have more than one child, Bacho says, laughing.

It's a function of species survival that we can gloss over the bad portions of the past. So nostalgia is great as a temporary escape during difficult times. But if it becomes the basis of our decision making, we can actually be led down the wrong path. And I want to focus on this statement. Right person, wrong time. It wasn't the wrong time. There was something else that was wrong. One of the first things I want to talk about is, what about your relationship status? What about their relationship status? Maybe they just got out of a relationship. Maybe they'd been single for too long. Now, we look at that as wrong time, but that's far more defining of that person than we give it credit to be. If someone's been single for a long time, that's a part of who they are. It's a part of who they've become. If someone's newly single, that's a part of who they are and where they are in their emotional maturity to be able to spot an amazing opportunity for it to be the right thing. Now, I'm not saying this to make you feel down about the fact that there isn't someone there for you.

I'm saying it because I want us to live in reality more than I want us to live in imagination. We believe that this fake person is out there because it's comforting. And what that stops us from doing is dealing with the real person in front of us who presents real opportunities and real challenges. That's really what life is. That's what a partner is. It's a set of pros and a set of cons. It's a set of things to look forward to and list of things that will set us back. So I want you to think about the relationship status part. If someone is just newly single and you're scared of rushing them along, instead of saying right person, wrong time and moving on, can you be more patient? Maybe you do want to get married, but maybe they need time. Maybe you don't rush it. If they're worth investing in, maybe they could be the right person. If you didn't have this idea of right person, wrong time because you wanted everything to perfectly align, what else about the relationship status that you're in, you don't want to rush yourself. You don't want to move along.

Now, of course, if the conclusion you both come to is we're both not ready right now to wait longer for the other person, then that's not the right person, and that's okay. It doesn't mean that you don't deserve love. It doesn't mean you won't find love. It doesn't mean that you won't have the opportunity to be in love. But what it does mean is that it's the wrong person and the timing is somewhat not relevant. Recently, I became a relationship advisor at match because I really want people to connect based on their values. So what we did together was we collaborated and built a set of questions that will help you understand your values and pair you up with people with similar values and in a way that you can be aware of what their priorities are. I think so often we start dating, and then we find out down the line that we're going in different directions, we have different focuses. I want to help you build a life where you're aware of what people care about and they're aware about what you care about. Head over now to match.com j to find out how you can date based on your values and your vision.

I want to talk about goals. I think we saw that in La La Land where they had different goals, and goals is a really interesting thing, because in a healthy relationship, it's not that you're going to find someone with the same goals. It's actually that you're going to find someone who respects your goals and values them and helps you get to them and the other person does the same. I have a lot of friends who are performers, speakers, musicians, and they're all saying, well, why is my partner not in the front row? Right? Why is my partner not in the front row? And maybe their partner has their own dreams that keep them active at the same time. I mean, you know, talking about pop culture, I think you see it right now with Traylor, Swift and Travis Kelsey. Like, both of them are high performers. Both of them are achieving. I'm sure they can't be at every single game. She can't be at every game and he can't be at every concert. But they're making it work by saying, I see that that's what makes you happy. I see that that's what makes you you.

I see that that's what makes you attractive. And I'm going to show up for you when I can. We'll even perform together when we can. Like, we'll make it happen, but I'm not going to make you give up the thing you love in order for us to have the same goals. In order for us to have the same priorities. And so it's interesting we've kind of been presented this either or, where it's like you either both sacrifice your goals for each other, or one of you sacrifices their goals for the other while one of them lives them through. And in reality, a healthy relationship is saying, well, I'm not going to let you sacrifice your goals. And I'm not going to sacrifice mine. And yes, we may spend a little less time with each other, but I know you support me deeply. I don't need you to be in the front row to know I'm front of mind for you. I don't need you to be cheering me on right now because I know you're going to be there to cheer me on in and around that area, in and around that activity. And I think so many of us can lose a great relationship because we think, oh, well, our goals have to perfectly match.

Our goals have to perfectly aligned to. Now another area is trauma. A lot of people today say, I want to be with someone who's gone to therapy. They have to be focused on healing. The truth is, we don't know when someone's healing journey is going to start and we don't know when ours is going to end. Let me say that again. You don't know when someone's healing journey is going to start and you don't know when your healing journey is going to end. You could feel that you've done a lot of healing and something next year could trigger a new reason to heal. And someone else may have gone to therapy for years and they may actually be in a peaceful place right now. The right person will heal themselves as they watch you heal. The right person will be patient with you as you are patient with them. The right person will make time and space for what you need as you make time and space for them. The right person will not be the person who's perfectly healed because neither are we. The right person will not be the person who's already done all the self work before they met us because we've also got so much self work left.

If anything, the right person becomes our partner in the journey of healing and self work. In the journey of inner work. We become companions and partners who understand each other, see each other, hear each other, and that's not perfect. This is an ideal. This is conflict. This is hard, this is heavy, it's challenging, but it's what builds greatness in a partnership. There's this old story about rocks that are put into a bag, and when the bag is moved, the rocks rub against each other slowly to become softer edged. The rocks didn't become softer because they were made softer independently. They became softer because there was conflict and tension between the rocks. But they eventually softened each other out. That's what the right relationship will do.

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In the right relationship, your fights will make you closer. Your arguments will make you more thoughtful. Your disagreements will make you more considerate, and the words you wish you never said will make you more mindful. That's what happens now. A lot of us, the next one is we live in a state of they were the right person at the wrong time because we saw their potential. We saw what they could be. We saw what we wanted them to be. And really what it was is they were who they were. But we had this imagined version of who they could be, should be, would be again. They weren't the right person, because the right person was what you dreamed up in your potential person. The real person. And that's why I almost want to get away from this language of the right person. It's the real person. We're dealing with real people. And the right person will be the person you want to make it right with. The right person will be the person who you choose to do the right thing for, and they choose to do the right thing for you. That's the right person, which is a real person.

I think we've kind of made it so that, oh, the right person will be all these things, and I'm like, the real person will be all those things and a whole set of other things, right? That's the real person. The right person in your head only is your perfect checklist. And I promise you, you'll meet people who have that checklist, and they have everything else as well. And because they have all these other things that you didn't have on your checklist that you don't recognize, you write them off as the wrong person. It's funny how we write people off as the wrong person because they have everything we want, but they come with a lot more baggage as well. And that's the real situation that we're in. A couple more things that I want us to focus on because it's not time. So it's right person but real goals. Right person but real trauma. Right person but real relationship status. Right person but real. No potential or potential. Right person and real standards. Sometimes our expectations get the better of us. Sometimes someone wants us to lower our standards. Beneath what we deserve. Neither makes someone the right person.

And it's amazing how in the rearview mirror, everything looks more beautiful, everything looks more amazing, everything looks like it was more exciting. And I think a big part of this is because there's a part of us that loves that feeling and a peaceful, healthy relationship doesn't provide that spark. I think a lot of people who are in happy, healthy, right person, right time relationships, real person relationships, find peace more than pleasure. And I think the problem is people think a peaceful relationship is a boring relationship. And that's not true. A peaceful relationship is a relationship where you're not creating drama and neither are they. Where you're both not triggered over petty things. Where you both don't make something out of nothing to fight for each other's attention. Where you're not playing games or manipulating in order to get someone's validation. Where you actually communicate honestly about what you want. And the funny thing is, we'll all say we want this, but we won't behave that way with the person. So I want you to really take this episode in because it's a reality check. And the reality check is to encourage you to say, let's stop thinking about the right person and let's look at real people.

What does a real person have? What does a real person come with? And a real person comes with all these things. But love is saying, can we take all of that into account and make it make sense? And if we can't, let's not glorify or put that person on a pedestal for the rest of time because it makes us feel better. Let's actually say it didn't wasn't the right person and I'm going to keep looking for that real person that I can connect with. I really hope that you'll share this episode with a friend. I hope it will help clarify so much of our mind and brain works and makes decisions. And I hope it's going to make you more open, curious and positive about dating. I'm so excited for you. I'm forever in your corner and always rooting for you. Thanks for listening. If you love this episode, you're going to love my conversation with Matthew Hussey on how to get over your ex and find true love in your relationships. People should be compassionate to themselves, but extend that compassion to your future self because truly extending your compassion to your future self is doing something that gives him or her a shot at a happy and a peaceful life.

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