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On today's part of my take, we finally have some sports to talk about again. It's the NBA Finals game one. The Celtics handled the Mavs. We're going to get into that. We also are going to talk about Dan Hurley, possibly going to the Los Angeles Lakers. We have a full Stanley Cup final preview with our good friend Paul Bissenet and Edmonton Oilers, Evander Cain. And then we finish the show with a great firefest and some big news from PFT. Before we get to all of that, DraftKings, did you ever play the over-under game with your friends? You know, I think I can eat that slice of pizza in under 30 seconds, or I know it'll take you over a minute to down that two-litre. If you have, then you're going to love Picks 6, the new fantasy game from DraftKings, an official partner in the NBA. Here's how to play during the NBA playoffs. It's super simple. First, download the DraftKings Picks 6 app, then pick between two and six players and choose if they have more or less of a stat like rebounds, points, assists, and more. Track your picks and play against others for a shot to win huge cash prizes.

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Yeah, great game. Great game. It looked like in the third quarter, they were going to do the classic Celtics thing, let the other team back in. Turns to a close game, but they called a timeout when they cut the lead to eight, went on an 8-0 run after that, and it was smooth sailing from there.

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Yeah, it's a shame that Jason Kidd couldn't give another halftime speech where he said, Everyone, remember to have fun out there.

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In the NBA Finals, he said.

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When you're given to have fun speech, you lost. I don't think that you can come back with a have fun speech, but I guess they did come back a little bit in the third quarter.

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Yeah, no, they definitely did. I mean, they made it an eight-point game. Then when you looked up at the end of the third quarter, the Mavs had only won the quarter by one point. They took their best punch, and the Celtics came out with way more energy. They looked better. Porzingis, ropedoping everyone. He's like, I don't know if I'm 100%.

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He looked- He didn't look 100%. When he started the game, he looked slow. They were picking rolling. He wasn't really closing out. He wasn't really contesting shots. I was like, Oh, yeah, he's definitely not 100%. And then he just made 20 shots in a row.

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Yeah, he was the best player on the court for a little bit. In that first quarter, it was unreal. This is a big-time revenge series for Chris Stops. Hank, you are very confident right now. Are we still thinking Celtics in 6?

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Yeah, we're thinking Celtics in 6. The Mavs aren't going to go away. They're going to give us their best shot, but it might be Celtics in 5.

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I did not realize this was going to be a Bill Walton game. That would have affected things quite a bit for me. The family's there. The family's there. They're wearing the Bill Walton jerseys. They're passing out the Bill Walton buttons and stickers before the game. If there is an afterlife where you can control something that happens on planet Earth, I'm certain that Bill Walton would be doing everything in his power to control this game. This should have been an easy bet. Yes.

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The one thing you could say if you're the Mavericks, you couldn't have played worse, couldn't have played with less energy coming out. The Celtics hit every shot in the first half, and Jason Kidd also sucks at game ones. I think the Wolves series was the first time he had won a game one for the Mavericks. He has notoriously been slow starting with his teams in a series, but it definitely looked like the Celtics were the better team all around because they just have an answer.

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It's the role players.

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It's what we talk about. It's different than the series they just finished where Carlos Anthony Towns couldn't hit a three, and Rudy Gobert is nothing on offense, and you can basically play a different style of defense when there's only a certain amount of guys that can hit a shot. Everyone on the Celtics can hit a shot.

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Who's the MVP after one game? Jalen? Yeah. Jalen. I am looking forward to the discourse if he wins MVP.

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That is crazy that the Celtics won by as much as they won by, and Jason Tatum was not good.

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I think that's a good thing.

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Yeah, no, I'm saying that's crazy. If he's not going to be not good for the entire series, he's eventually going to be good. And yeah, the Mavs role players didn't show up. Luka started slow. He had that third quarter where he was incredible. And yeah, you You can't expect to win this series if Kyrie is going to only score 12 points.

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Yeah, they did a good job not biting on his... Luka always is trying to draw fouls. I feel like Jalen Brown, we said it, he got snubbed for NBA all defense, and he took that personally, and he came out and he was playing really good defense. Every time Luca was pump faking, he was letting him shoot it, and Luka never does. He just always pump fakes and then passes. It was just a great, great, great, great game one. Happy basketball's back. It was a long wait, and it was a great payoff.

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It's good that basketball's back. I still think that the Mavs were stupid to wear these jerseys in game one. I don't know if they did that because Luka looks very slim in them.

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Were you thinking blue?

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I was thinking blue. These jerseys feel like the jerseys you wear for Star Wars night in early February.

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Yeah. I also think the white Celtics jerseys, that's a big game jersey. Yeah.

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I just feel like it was crazy because if you had said before that the Mavs were the team... Or sorry, the Celtics were the team that had the longer rest and also had just played significantly less games weren't in the rhythm of a big-time game. What are you talking about? They look as sharp as could be.

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Yeah, they weaponized time.

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Yeah, they did. They weaponized time. Mavs max. Celtics in four. Oh, no.

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I mean, this team fucking sucked tonight. These role players were horrible.

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We have a role players play better at home.

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Well, the Celtics got more fucking home games.

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They're going to go down. I still know they're going to win at least a game.

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The Mavs suck. I stand by Celtics in five. I feel good about that. Three.

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Listen, we can't overreact to one game, Max.

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Hank's the fucking worst. I fucking hate when Hank...

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Yeah.

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Continue, continue, continue.

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You're just such a fucking bitch when you're happy.

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You're just a podcast. You got to talk, you got to talk, Max. Don't just go silent when your team loses. You got to let your feelings out.

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You're the worst.

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Max, here's a spin zone for you for Mavs Max. At least you still have your reservation at 4 Charles Prime.

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The Celtics have eight guys who should have $100 million contract. Wait, what?

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I said at least- Let's list them. Jalen Brown, Jason Tateum, Porzingis, Derek White. I mean, Pritchard, friend of the program.

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Through holiday? Through holiday. Payton Prichard, Stunt, tonight.

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Sam Hauzer.

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Sam Hauzer, stud.

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Al Horford, did you say?

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Al Horford. Al Horford. Al Horford. Al Horford. Al Horford. Al Horford.

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Al Horford.

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Such a fucking cop.

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Horford, July.

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I fucking hate Al Horford. Sixers could have used a guy like Horford.

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Al Horford is the worst.

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I think the Mavericks- Remember when it seemed like his career was over on the Sixers? That was seven years ago. I don't remember. He didn't want to play there.

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He didn't want to play there. He needed a better environment, I think.

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He signed there. He chose to play there.

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By the way, Luka having one assist, that tells you how bad everyone else played because Luka- Oh, come on. Hey, you know how an It's a fact that you have to make all their shots early on.

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Early on, it was like nobody- You should have thrown more lobs.

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Luka didn't have only one pass tonight. They missed everything. Luka didn't play great, but one assist- Played better than Jason Tatum. Do you understand how assists work? One assist means that the other guys, you have to make the shot for the assist to count.

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Yeah, you got to make better passes. It was guys, better looks.

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It was great team defense by the Celtics. No, the It stunk. Did you say Drew holiday? Yeah.

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Jeez, I couldn't even say the one assist without Hank getting-Well, I was curious how you were going to-Because an assist, you have to pass the ball, then the person has to make the shot. The rest of the Mavs...

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You got to make good passes, though.

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The Mavs didn't make the shots. Should have done more lops. Kyrie was really bad.

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Kyrie was really bad. Yeah. Lucky revenge game.

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No, the Mavs were bad. I mean, the Celtics were... It wasn't the Mavs were bad. The Celtics were just... They came out and they were like, Hey, we're in the NBA Finals right now, and they looked as sharp as sharp could be.

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I don't think this series is over either. I think the Mavs could easily come back, win game two. It is a blowout like that will wake you up.

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Yeah. You think the series is over? You think that was a statement loss? You think that was a statement loss? You think this series- He's doing this.

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I don't think this series is there.

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We can see your fucking face. You think this series is over.

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I don't. Yes, you do.

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It's not. Yes, you do.

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It's a seven-game series. Well, it's a six-game series now.

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Those were two different...

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Hank, you would have rather won this game by two points, three points?

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No. But I don't think the Mads are going to roll over and die. I think it's going to be- Kyrie is not going to play that bad. Luka is going to make some better passes next game, get some more assists.

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Kyrie was very, very bad. But this was defend well. So much more depth. There was that one moment where Kyrie looked like he was open, and it was just Porzingis standing with his arm out. Someone in the gambling cave was like, shoot it, dude. It's like, well, he can't. Porzingis Porzingis is a fucking monster. He looks like he's open from the angle, but he's 100% not open.

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And he looks very healthy.

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Very healthy. Yeah, Porzingis does. Max, you didn't even say you didn't even like my spin zone. What? He was just so- You still have your reservation at Fort Charles Prime.

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This is just a bad joke.

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Why?

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Because this is the second time that Jerry's done this to me. What happened? Jerry's good at getting reservations in New York City. He got me a reservation. Then after he books the reservation for me, Yeah. He just tells me every day that he accidentally canceled it.

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So did he cancel it?

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Yeah, apparently.

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Oh.

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Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

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I mean, this is a bad joke. This is not a good joke for the listeners.

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Can't you get it back? I don't care.

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I don't care about this.

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Do you have to reply error?

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Yeah. While I was playing into Jerry's little bit.

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Oh, okay. Oh, got it. Got it. Okay.

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You know, Max really is angry when he tells everybody like, The listeners hate this. Yeah, the listeners hate this.

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They fucking hate this.

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Do you think the listeners like Mav Max?

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No, I shouldn't. I should just go. Actually, no, that would be Hank.

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Whatever. I'm done. He can't even speak.

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I'm done. Max, I'll agree with you. He is annoying, but his team won game one. You can't really... What are you going to say?

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Nothing.

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You got to talk, Max.

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He answered the question. I can't say anything. You won. You win every three years. You know For three years, you fucking win.

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You know what? I'm happy for Hank right now in this moment. Fucking hate boss. But I can assure you that if they win game two and game three and Hank just the shit-eating grin becomes shittier and grinier, I'm going to start to hate Hank, too, because this cockiness is going to carry over all summer.

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But it was good that we got- Yeah, it's just the hate us because the hate us. We got game one out of the way because we had the worst combo of Hank today because we're dealing with cocky Hank right now, which I have no problem with cocky Hank. We had nervous Hank all day, and he was just a little annoying. Even you'll hear for the rest of the show, it's annoying.

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I was getting fits off in it. You were just nervous. I was in a jelly mode.

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I'm rooting for you, Hank. I truly am, but I don't want to see you sweep. I want to see you sweat a little bit.

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I'm room for a sweep.

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Okay. I had two other things I wanted to say before we kick it back to ourselves, talk some Dan Hurley. This one is, and we're going to talk about Dan Hurley, but our friend Adam Lefko had a very interesting tweet I very much enjoyed. It was titled The Tradition of LeBron or His Team: Looking to Overshadow Game 1 of the NBA Finals Continues. 2024, Dan Hurley, JJ reddit Coach Mania. 2023, LeBron Retirement Rumors plus biopic shooting stars premiere. 2022, I forgot about this one, Forbes announces LeBron is a billionaire the day of game one. That's great. He really is the best of it.

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He's He was really good at doing that and then also watching the finals and be like, damn, this is so good. I wish we were in this. Not happening again next year. I'm going to be back.

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But that is some really good game one news that he needed to have out there. There's no doubt that he planned this whole Dan Hurley thing for having it all day on game one.

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Yeah. Also, he said, Important moment for a sport tonight. Love and respect to Doris Burke and everything she does to elevate all of us. You're a goat. Then everybody started to congratulate LeBron James on congratulating Doris Burke. Yes. This is what an ally looks like. What a great, great tweet by LeBron.

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He also said, I'm so effing with some stars in it, mad that I'm not his running mate anymore. Talking about Kyrie. Kendrick Perkins called him out and was like, Dude, shut up. It's game one of the finals. Let this be game one of the finals. Because he was just like, Damn, I should be with Kyrie right now in the finals. Okay, the other thing I had was, I'm worried about Mike McDaniels.

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Why? What's up?

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Mike McDaniels is, So the Dolphins have not won a playoff game in 24 years. He now has every staff meeting, he puts it 24 on the hour.

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I don't like that.

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7:24, 24.

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I don't like that because you're just thinking about it all the time.

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Yeah. I don't know if he was being cheeky with it.

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He probably just did that so that the big team meeting could start 4:24, four minutes after he was ready for it.

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I will hold reservation because Mike McDaniels is a funny guy, and he might be just fucking with the media. But if this is true, this makes me nervous. This is like after the double-doink year when Matt Nagui ended every practice with all the kickers having to kick a 41-yarder.

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Yeah, it's in his head. It's in his head. You're just making everybody in the building think about how long it's been all the time. Not the best way to do it. No. I thought of a great be a shame, and it's a shame that I thought of it so late. I think the ultimate shame would be if Justin Fields won a Super with the Steelers.

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That would be a shame. That would be a crying shame. You're right. People really like the shame list.

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A crying shame. Yeah.

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We might have to do an updated shame list every six months.

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I'm not going to root for it, but if it does happen, just know that it would be a dear shame.

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It would be a shame. That would be a very big shame. It'd be a shame if Max's reservation got canceled before Charles Prime.

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It'd be a shame if me and Max had to go to game 4 and shoot a PMTV.

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Oh, that would be a shame.

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Where would that be? Dallas. Oh, okay.

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Is that on the table?Maps, Max, you love that. You love the maps. Pll. Oh, what?

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I have to be in Philly for PLL.

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We can do a different weekend for that, right?

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What day? Yeah, what day?

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I don't know.

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Sounds like it's really locked in.

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It's definitely locked in. I just don't know what day game 4 is.

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Oh, yeah, game 4 is Friday. Yeah, he's right. Sorry.

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He does. No, that's Saturday. You could just get up. There's a flight 5:30 in the morning.

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Oh, yeah, you could. That would be a shame if you had to get the 5:30 in the morning flight.

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It'd be a shame if you had to follow Hank with a camera wherever he went. Where ever he went. Where ever. Until he closed his eyes to fall asleep.

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Any concourses, bedrooms, schools.

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He is more torn up about this than he was about the Sixers. It's No, no. After the Sixers loss- No, he's not.

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He's just mad. He just hates Hank. He really hates him.

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After the Sixers loss, he was like, It feels different. This one feels different. Now, this feels bad for Max.

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I think it's also the problem is Mavs Max is a great nickname. Yeah. It's just one game. He quit in the second quarter. Mavs Max died in the second quarter tonight.

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Dead. Yeah. I already tried to cash out my future, but I placed it in Jersey, so I can't.

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Shit. That's a shame.

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That is such a shame.

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That's a shame.

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That's a real shame. I'll buy your ticket for five bucks.

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Just kidding. No, he won't. You're not going to take it?

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No, Max has not declined.

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Declined? Ten bucks?

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All right, let's kick it to ourselves.

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Pmc 20 for 20% off your order and get that new Buffalo tender sub. Okay, Dan Hurley might be the new Lakers head coach. According to the Woj bomb that went out at 4:00, 5:00 in the morning, he said, Breaking the ESPN story on the Los Angeles Lakers preparing massive long-term offer to bring Yukon's Dan Hurley to the NBA with talks expected to escalate in coming days.

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When we had Dan Hurley on, I believe this was two years ago. We asked him about taking an NBA job, and he said, Not now. I've got a lot to learn. He also said the league might not be ready for a guy like him. That's a fact. Might be true. But then he also said it's a challenge that he could see himself doing at some point in the future. It sounds like they're about to just back up the truck for him. If they actually pull a truck into his driveway, like a Brinks truck, you have to take that deal. I thought the weirdest part of this whole thing was buried in Woj's article. They talked about how getting Dan Hurley on board could benefit Bronnie James if the Lakers were to draft him and how Dan Hurley could help him step his game up and develop as an NBA player. That is the craziest thing I've ever heard to be considering a coach based on the fact that a guy you might draft in the second round might get a little bit better. A guy that's not even on the team yet, the son of your superstar, he could help him with his development.

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That's crazy to me. But then I thought to myself, wait a second, what if it's a tit for tat situation and Dan Hurley says, I'll do it. I'll sign off on drafting Brawny. I'll help develop him. But you also have to sign Andrew Hurley, and he gets to get in all the games to be the turnover sponge at the end of every game. If his son's team, my son's on the team. That would rock.

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That part of the story was very funny because it would be just as easier, way easier, actually, to just have Brawny transfer to Yukon. Why not just transfer to Yukon and stay in college and actually learn from Dan Hurley right now. But LeBron has tweeted about how much he likes Dan Hurley. Dan Hurley is an incredible coach. The Lakers are one of those jobs. I mean, Coach K, which we'll get to in a second, flirt with it 20 years ago. But the Lakers are one of those jobs that I think every single college basketball coach picks up the phone for because you know they'll always get free agents, and they'll always find a way to be relevant. There were two things initially that I thought. One, Shams got his lunch eaten on this one because Shams has basically been talking about JJ Reddick to the Lakers almost being a done deal for the last two weeks. The Woj Shams' rivalry is so great because you know how much pleasure this gave Woj to just dunk on him at 5:00 in the morning. Shams probably woke up, saw it, was like, Clutch has been lying to me, all this stuff.

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And he has to just sit there and pray that talks fall through with Dan Hurley and they end up with JJ Redick. But I was thinking about it. I think Dan Hurley would be awesome at the Lakers. I think he's going to be a great coach no matter where he goes. The only thing that It doesn't really make sense to me is I do think the Lakers... Lebron is not going to play forever, and he's fickle at best. He's not going to give you a long-term commitment. So why would you take it now when you know you could maybe stay at Yukon and the Lakers will still be there in a couple of years from now when they eventually fire whoever they hire this cycle, and then just take them over that?

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I would love to see Dan Hurley take a hands-on approaching like he did at Yukon, go on the court and push LeBron James.

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Oh, he would. I don't think he'll go there if he can't coach the way he wants to coach.

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That would be awesome. Also, Dan Hurley doesn't strike me as an LA guy. No. He's not laid back enough, but he would bring the fire to LA. No. I mean- He's a Yukon. He's a New Jersey guy. He's never leaving. Trust me, I'm right.

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There's two ways it's going to play out. One is the Lakers are going to offer him so much money that he can't turn it down, and you're going to say, Okay, well, Dan Hurley, good job. You deserve this. And yeah, you got to take this offer. And the other thing that could happen very well, and I could see it in my head, is Dan Hurley sitting at his desk? He tweets a picture on Sunday night, maybe, with just the number seven because they have six, and they're going for their seventh. And he's like, Yeah, my wife couldn't find a good hoagie place in LA, so our job's not finished.

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You know it'd be great. Let me strike that reverse. You know it'd be a real shame. It'd be a real shame if Dan Hurley left and then you couldn't hire Jay Wright. That It'd be a real shame. No, it never happened.

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Max is hoping for this to happen so, so much. Such a shame.

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Max and Pug, the whole Big East.

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Yeah, they all need Dan Hurley out. I don't know which way this is going to go. Do you think JJ feels like he's being used a little bit?

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I actually think that this might be an entire Duke conspiracy because Coach K-Yeah, no, I was streamed about this morning.

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I was right on it. Coach K did all of this.

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But think about, yeah, with the JJ Reddick thing, too.

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No, Coach K was named Named a unofficial... What was it? I'm going to get the exact- Consiguiery. I'm going to get the exact- How do you get named something, but it's unofficial? Will you shut up for a second with your little vest?

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Just tell him to shut the fuck up.

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Shut the fuck up for a second. Yeah, it's satisfying. Lakers, reportedly using Mike Shashefsky He is unofficial research in coaching search. Coach K sees Dan Hurley win his second national title back to back. He looks around, he says, Look, there's a lot of guys in college basketball that will never reach where I'm at. They won't be the old-school tough style like Dan Hurley. He's a throwback. He's a relic. I got to figure out a way to make sure that Dan Hurley doesn't surpass me as the goat or alleged goat by Coach K's standards. He's not my goat. Goat College Basketball Coach. I'm the unofficial resource in this searching job. Basically, every time they bring up, Who should we hire? He's like, You know what I'm thinking? Dan Hurley. He's getting Dan Hurley to go to the Lakers so Dan Hurley can't take everything from John Shier and Duke and Coach K and all his legacy and stuff. And he used JJ Redick, so when He goes very well. He's a pawn in the scheme.

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I think he might have engineered the entire podcast and been like, Hey, you guys do a podcast, and then we're going to set that up. When the coaching thing becomes available, then we're going to link JJ heavily to it. I'll call Shams, get Shams to endorse this. And then everyone's thinking, Oh, JJ. Oh, JJ. No one's on the phone picking up the phone to call Dan Hurley. And then boom, we do the old replace last second, the old switcheroo.

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And don't put it past Coach K. Don't put it past Coach K to not try to take down all of college basketball because Dan Hurley is a throwback coach. If we lose Dan Hurley in college basketball, I will be upset. We had all these tough guys, hard-nosed guys, the Patinos, the The Bayhimes, the Iso is still around, but- Patino is still around. Patino is still around, but we're losing a lot of them. All right, it's fine. The Bayhimes, the Coach K's, the Roy Williams, the John Thompson. Bobby Knight. The Roley Massimino, the Bobby Knight.

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Guys are like 100 years old.

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The Jay Wright. We don't have any old-school coaches anymore. Dan Hurley is what college basketball has been for a very long time. Coach K is trying to basically... I think he wants college basketball to not exist in five years. That's what he's trying to do. He's trying to take down the entire NCAA tournament. He wants it all to end. He's a classic, just pull up the ladder on you.

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If you're Dan Hurley, would you rather go to the Lakers and get paid a lot more money and not have to recruit and not have to worry about NIL, all that stuff. But you also have the threat of being fired every single season, sometimes in season, if LeBron James doesn't like you enough.

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Yeah, but then he could go back to college.

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Yeah, he could. He could, yeah. He always wanted to go back to college. What, Max?

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I think that he's done everything that he needs to do in college. He should go- Mute your mic.

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He should go attack. Mute your mic.

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He should go attack this new venture. Now I want to go and I want Jay Wright to sign on that dot. That's not going to happen.

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It's not going to happen. Jay Wright would just go back to Noah. There's no chance. Why would you go to U. C. No chance.

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No, zero chance. He'd wait one more year for them to have a bad season, fire Neptune, and go back. It's anything, I feel like. Although Noah's back.

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Oh, Noah's back because you got- Wuga. Coach K is trying to ruin Yukon. Yukon fans, don't take this. If you are trying to blame anyone, do not blame Dan Hurley for being an incredible coach and being offered a lot of money. Blame Coach K. He's behind all of this.

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That's a bunch of donkey crap.

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You said that because you're in the Shrek costume. Hank's doing a bit where he dressed up today.

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No, we did Dungeons & Dragons earlier, and I just-Din't change. Had been busy.

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You've been really busy.

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He's been busy trying to nap. Took a nap.

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What do you What do you think about this, Hank?

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I think it's a bunch of malarkey.

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Oh, you think he's going to stay? I think he is going to stay.

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This actually does remind me of Coach K, and he always stayed. Yeah. There is- That was every summer. It was Coach K is going to the Lakers.

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Yeah. There is a strong possibility in all of this that Dan Hurley has just won two national titles, and he's got He's got a new recruit. He's got new transfer portal guys, and he now has to find a way to motivate them. So he's like, All right, well, let's just leak that I'm going to the Lakers.

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And then he comes back.

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And then he's like, I'm not leaving. Yeah.

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That would be a good motivational tactic. I think he might be bored with college basketball at this point. The last two NCAA tournaments, he's just dominated so hard.

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There's no way that's boring.

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Just fucking crushed it.

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The other thing to your point, which has nothing to do with Coach K, is that it's tough to be a hard-nosed coach in today's day and age when the transfer portal exists. If you're too hard, they just leave.

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But it's way harder to be a hard-nosed coach in the NBA.

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But you get paid a lot more. You don't have to worry about the transfer portal. Dan Hurley, you can't coach the same way that you used to be able to coach because- Especially not in the NBA. But it's a completely different game.

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How much money would they have to offer him? Because he probably got... Do we know the terms? 12, 13 mil?

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He probably can't coach the way he wants to coach.

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In the NBA?

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At Yukon.

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But he has been coaching that way.

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But it's probably a lot, and he's probably dealing with a lot of bullshit. Or you could get paid fuck you money to go coach the best players in the world.

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Yeah, the fuck you money is the part that...

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Like 20 mil a year?

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I don't know. I don't know what the offer was. 100 mil over however many years? I have no idea. I hope we don't lose him in college basketball. I really don't want to see that happen. It would be funny because I honestly think that if LeBron tried to use Dan Hurley as a scapegoat, Dan Hurley would just fight him. At the end of the season, if LeBron said, Yeah, that was Dan Hurley's fault. Our coach didn't coach well enough. He'll just come in and be like, Okay, fight me.

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He'd probably just publicly say, We're trading LeBron James. You don't want to see that?

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You don't think that would be great?

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Dan Hurley with the Lakers would be awesome. Shut up. You are so biased right now. You're very biased. I understand. I understand you're biased, and you should be taking the stance you're taking. But everything you say is very biased.

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But go ahead. That's everything in this show.

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Yeah, that's everything in the show. That's fair.

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But I mean, Dan Hurley with the Lakers would make the Lakers way more entertaining next year. Agreed.

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Do you understand my point about college basketball? We've lost all of- Of course I do. Yeah, we've lost all the- Of course I do. The real coaches.

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I want him gone.

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I know. Would you rather Dan Hurley at Kentucky or Lakers?

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Kentucky.

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Yeah, because then you get to keep them in college basketball.

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I could see Yukon fans cry.

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Oh. Yeah, I want Dan Hurley gone.

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Okay. I don't blame me for that at all.

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No, not at all. You have to.

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They're just so dominant. Maybe bored is the wrong choice of terms, but I do think that he's accomplished a lot in college basketball, and he feels like a guy who's ready for different challenges. Yeah, for sure.

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I don't know if I would want the challenge. The challenge to me would not be to coach LeBron where he's desperate and will blame anyone but LeBron.

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Maybe the challenge is try to win a championship with LeBron's son in the rotation. Yeah.

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So we'll see what happens. We'll update, obviously, on Monday. I think maybe if something happens, Johnny Fanta will come on.

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Also, if they're dead set, if they're making this pitch to him like, We want you in case we do draft Bronnie, another team should just draft Bronnie and then try to trade them to the Lakers. He's the most valuable poker chip of all time.

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Yeah, for Anthony Davis, straight up. Yeah. I offer you one Anthony Davis.

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You're essentially kidnapping LeBron James' son. Yeah. And be like, All you have to do is give me your second guy, and then now we can all be friends again.

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Yeah. How bad do you think Shams feels right now? He's got to just be praying that Dan Hurley says no. Has to pray. And JJ, is he... I'm actually... This is good for JJ Reddick.

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It's good for him because now he's the big name out there. So next opening, they're going to talk to JJ.

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Well, it also is a good little reminder You haven't coached yet. Yeah. Yeah, you go behind Dan Hurley.

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But he's already skipped to the front of the line. So the next coaching vacancy, it's like, Okay, I guess JJ is the name that we should interview. Yeah.

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Coach K will probably get... That's probably the end part of it.

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You got to get over it.

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Coach, no, I don't. Coach K will probably get JJ. Jj's first coaching job will probably be the Olympic team this year.

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Yeah.

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That's probably what's going to be.

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Win a gold medal. Yeah. Front of the line.

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I still have the Coach K little cheat sheet. Yeah, we'll update it.

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It's in my wallet.

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Yeah, it's in mine as well. For the final four, two years ago. We will update it with what he's done here by trying to eliminate Dan Hurley. So, Yukon fans, just remember, it was Coach K. Did you see Coach K got a highway named after him? No. I feel like that's normal. Yeah.

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That makes sense.

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He's probably donated billions to charity.

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Do you think he's going to let his friends drive on the highway?

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What?

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Good one. I didn't make a joke.

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What do you mean his friend's Big Cat? I don't know.

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Any of his friends from coaching.

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Yeah. Do you think he's going to let Paulo Banquero, I mean, his grandson, drive that Highway? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. Who do you thought I was talking about, No. Oh, okay.

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Probably not all of his friends.

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Yeah, there's probably one friend he doesn't want.

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Yeah. Tony Stewart.

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Okay. Anything else before we get to... Oh, I saw Angel Hernandez. Jeff Passon said that bullying worked in this case and that he was sick of seeing himself dragged on the internet all the time. So we did it.

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Yeah. We did it, guys. Congratulations. This is a big year for bullying. We've got this, and then we've got the Heisman going back to Reggie Bush. Yeah. Making things happen.

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It is very funny that Angel Hernandez would say, I was sick of watching myself being dragged online when all he could do is just he could easily fix that by not being terrible.

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Yeah, well, he can't Back to the internet. He can't throw the internet out of the game. Yeah.

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Why are they being so... Why are they replaying all of these times I've gotten balls and strikes wrong?

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I hope that MLB brings him on as an analyst, as a rules analyst, the way they did. Remember when Mike Carrie came on in the NFL and he He got every prediction wrong? Every. That was incredible. If they bring Angel Hernandez in for the playoffs, he's like, I think that's a strike. It's clearly outside the box. We need that. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on.

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So bad.

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Do the right thing, MLB. Yes.

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I guess we'll talk, Max. Can you talk a little bit about your deli slice during Firefest, or you want to talk about it right now?

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We can do it later.

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Okay, well, is it a Firefest?

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There's some Firefest aspects.

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Okay, then we'll save it for later because your deli sliceer has arrived. You You're living out your fantasy of being just a strong Italian man.

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Memes wants you to know... Or college football schedule was-Oh, yes, that was a good point.

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We got the college football playoff schedule, and It fucking rocks.

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There's so much football starting in December. So much football.

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There's also just so much more football in January now that is going to be... We've almost eliminated January, which is great January. We were both born in January. It's the worst month.

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It's just a month of pure sports now and just looking forward to sports.

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So pull it up. It's perfect because we have a Friday game, then three Saturday games right before Christmas, and then we have a New Year's Eve game, and then three New Year's Day games, which is going to be great. Then we get the special Thursday. I I think January ninth is week... That's right before week 18. So that would be right when we were getting weaned off of Thursday night games. So they throw a Thursday night game in there. And a Friday. And a Friday, which leads us into week 18. So the January ninth weekend, think about that. Ten years ago, was that divisional round already? No, it wasn't divisional round, but it was wild card weekend, not super wild card weekend. So Ten years ago, we had four football games that weekend. Now, the first full weekend of January is a full Week 18 and two college football playoff game.

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It's pretty sweet. And then Monday, January 20th, National Championship. Is that MLK Day?

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That is MLK Day. That's also coming off. I think that's also inauguration. Oh, good. Yeah. And that is also coming off.

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That'll be fun.

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That is coming off of, I think that's Super Wild Card Weekend. So 11, 12, 13 is actually Super Wild Card.

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Oh, it is?

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Yeah. So I guess everything's up this week. Okay. 18, 19 is divisional.

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Okay. So Super Wild Card Weekend. So we're going to have the semifinals Thursday, Friday, and then Super Wild Card Weekend. That's the best stretch of football right now.

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I hope the new President or the President goes to that game the day after they get inaugurated. Yeah.

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Wait, when is the Super Bowl this year? February what?

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It's not President's Day, but it's like- Ninth. Okay. Okay.

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Okay, so it's early. It's earlier than it's been.

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Yeah, January and December are incredible this year.

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Incredible. This is my whole plan. Just eliminate. If we could just get football, as much football in January as possible to just get rid of January as a month.

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We get that Friday, December 20th game. We get a Friday night college football playoff game.

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No, it's Monday, January 20th.

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No, Friday, December 20th. Oh, yes.

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It's one Friday, three Saturdays, and then New Year's Eve, then three New Year's Day.

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It is interesting how this is going to go head to head with some NFL games, which we usually don't see.

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Which ones?

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The 21st is going to be Tectin's Chiefs and Stealers Ravens.

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That's fine. You just have multiple TVs.

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Yeah. No, it's just these marquee college games usually are standalone.

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It's going to be tricky for the travel schedule around Christmas time. That weekend, that Friday and Saturday.

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Also, our show, we're going to have to do some shows.

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Yep. I did think about So December 23rd, that Monday.

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Yeah, we normally would have done Monday. Definitely do a show there. Yeah. Then we're going to have to do a show on the Wednesday, January first, which we would have probably had to do a show anyway. But yeah, I'm excited. A lot more football. Okay, let's get some hockey talk because we haven't previewed the Stanley Cup final yet. We got Biz and we got Edmondon Oilers, Evander Cain. Before we do that, PFT, you had a from our sponsors. Yes.

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Okay, we now welcome on our great friend. First of all, congrats on a great season on TNT. I know the boys are wrapped up for the Stanley Cup final. Let's talk some final. Let's get going. Let's get into it. Here's what I'll start with. Paul Bissenet, you know this league so well. If the Oilers win, what is the X-Factor for them? And then do the same thing for the Panthers. Give us the X-Factor.

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I love doing the X-Factor. I think we started to do it last year or maybe the year before, and I think it was like, Fuck off with these X-Factors. But then now he's an X-Factor guy.

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They play because you know what it is, biz? And this is a little tip for you. I mean, you know this. You're very successful in everything you do.

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Mansplain it to me, please.

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No, no, no, no, no, What I'm going to say is, at least for this show, when we have a guest on like you who knows hockey so well, when I ask for the X-Factors, I'm basically asking for you to give us a name or two or a situation that all of our listeners can walk around this weekend at the bar and sound smart. They can be like, Yeah, if the oilers do this, and then everyone's like, Oh, shit, you know your park. It's like, No, they just listen to biz.

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Okay. I like this. When we talk about the X factors on the pod, we usually refer to a team who might be going into the series where we think they might lose. Right now, I have Florida and 6, right? I think that overall, they have the better team. But I think if these two X factors step up, the oilers have a chance to win, one of which, apparently, you have on today's show. It's Evander Cain. Yes.

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Okay.

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All right. Okay. So if Evander Cain is like your prototypical power forward in the NHL, he's nasty, he can play with a physical edge, and he's tough as shit. I think he grew up a boxer. I believe he's named after Evander Holyfield. Did he explain that in the midst of the interview?

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He did, yes.

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So he He hasn't quite been himself over the past couple of years. Going back to two playoffs ago, he had 13 goals. It might have led all of playoffs, and they were ended up being getting swept in the conference finals. If he can get to playing that nasty style of play, play physical, and find his goal scoring edge, I think that that helps them out so much because he hasn't been there quite all of this play off. This play off, I think right now, they have him going into this round on the third line. Even if he stays there If he can be that impact in this series, it's going to matter because Florida, a very physical team, can beat you up, and they're so deep up front, where they have guys on the third line like Lundell who are putting the fuck in the back of the net. So he needs to be an X-Factor. The other X-Factor was a guy that half of the fan base was throwing on the bus, going back to the Vancouver round, and that was Darnell Ners. Big defenseman. He's earning a lot of money. I think his cap hit is just over nine million.

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And although he makes that type of money, he's not that type of player. He's not a Kael Makar. So what he needs to do is up his game defensively, make sure he's boxing out in front of the net, and he's also playing with that nastiness. After the game in which he got called out, there was a weird pregame press conference around his stall where all the media members were drilling him. He was giving short answers. That night, and at that point, I think he was minus twelve in play-offs. Not great. He started He took off the game in the first five minutes, dash two, boom, one in the back of his net on a two on one, boom, the other one hits his ass in the back. So it was just like a bad luck streak mixed along with not good playing. And then I feel like he just snapped after that. He ended up getting an assist that game, and then he finished with 12 hits, double digits and hits. We need that from him every game this series. And if those two X factors do that, I believe the Edmonton Oilers, along with all the other pieces, do have the possibility of winning this in seven games.

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Okay.

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But you picked the Panthers, and I saw Gresky trash you over it. He reminded you that you picked the stars in the last series.

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Well, he's on the oilers payroll, and he's also won four cups with them. So let's not go there.

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Well, he does live in South Florida.

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Right?

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Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying what the great one told me on TV was that he shouldn't trust you because the pick that you had in the last series was ass.

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Okay. Factor fiction. I had Dallas and 6. I thought they were the overall team. And Edmonton, now the new team of Destiny that the Rangers have been pigeon-tossed to the side. I do believe that the oilers could do it, but they have to have all systems go. Florida is They expect it to be there. They have the goal tending. They have more depth on defense. They're overall better on defense. Edmonton Oilers' argument and their fan base's argument might be that you don't have an Evan Bouchard. Evan Bouchard, I believe currently he has 20 37 points in these playoffs. He's 10 away from Paul Koffie, who set the record for 37 points in a postseason payoff run when they obviously went on to win the Cup. I believe that anybody who's ever hit 29 points as a defenseman individually, I want to say Kael Mccar hit that two years ago when they won the Stanley Cup. Everybody in the one to four slot who has had that many points as a D-men, their team has gone on to win the Cup. So that might be the argument on the back end for Oilers fans to say, We have another X factor.

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. They have three X factors. So they might have triple X.

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And they also got that in the stands, too.

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Yes.

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The Titz McGee, baby. We saw the big junks come out in Dallas, but not those nice ones like an Edmondton boy's. She had a nice little punch belly, too. She had that big black leather belt, which she know she wants to be choked and spanked with.

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You You know that. You did some deep diving on that. I didn't get around to analyzing the-What do you mean I did?

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R. A. Is texting with her.

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Is he really?

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To make matters even crazier, the techs have not been going through that well because she apparently is at one bar because she works up north in Alberta at the Oilways. It's just too perfect at this point.

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Can you explain to me how this shakes out for Canada as a whole? I know it's big if Canada wins the Stanley Cup back, but I know that maybe Maple East fans are Maple East fans, and that's it. Is that the same way for Senator's fans and for Knux fans, or is there some unification in Canada right now where it's like, we need to cut back on our soil?

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Okay, so before I answer that, just to quickly go back because I got distracted by Titz McGee. And then at the forward position, yes, Edmonton has Dreisaitl and McDavid, who are world-class top of the game, probably top three players in the world, McDavid being number one. Overall, Florida has a deeper offense up They have a better four lines. You cannot debate that. Anybody who has half a brain in the hockey world will tell you that. So going back to the, is Canada on board?

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Let me ask it again. I fucking nailed it the first time I ask it. Let me set you up again.

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I want to hear it again, baby?

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This is a major, major, major Stanley Cup for the entire country of Canada. It's been so long, 1993. They've been waiting since 1993 to get the cup back on Home Ice in Canada. And the The thing is, there's multiple Canadian teams, and I know that the Mapleleaves fans only care about the Mapleleaves. Senators fans, I don't know, are they pulling for Edmonton? Are they pulling for Edmonton? Are they pulling for Edmonton? Are they pulling for Edmonton? Are they pulling for the Phoenix fans? Or is this only the city of Edmonton and their supporters that have been waiting so long for another Stanley Cup? Are they the only ones that are really taking this set that seriously, making it that big of a deal? Or is it the entire country of Canada?

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That was worse. That was great question.

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That was the first time we had that. That was unbelievable. No, you made me think the first time was better. No, no. Basically, a cover song of my question.

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Great question.

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No, because you being long-winded with it and throwing all this stuff at me, it reminded me, I believe it was Wayne who said that all Canada is going to be behind Edmonton on the panel, and that's what sparked this whole conversation. Now, I would argue that I think that more Canadians overall, from a percentage standpoint, are interested on whether Connor McDavid will lift the Stanley Cup rather than maybe more so the Oilers and a Canadian team winning it. I believe that the fact that it's Connor McDavid, this generational talent, a guy who has poured his heart and soul, every fiber of his being into hockey since probably the young age of six years old. This guy's a phenon. He deserves a cup, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. You dealt with it with a guy like Ovechkin, who had done all he did in the goal scoring department and everything he'd done for the game. But what was held against him? The fact that he'd never won a cup. And then he did. And then it was like, the weight of the fucking world was off his shoulders. So in order to be considered a great in the hockey world, you have to get a Stanley Cup.

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That is non-negotiable. And this is his first crack at it. So I think that that interest is more impactful in my mind than Edmonton itself winning. But as a Canadian and as a Leifs fan, I want Edmonton to win because I would love to see the Cup come back to Canada. Yes.

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I also think you can compartmentalize because it's a little bit... It's not the exact same, but it's similar to college sports and rooting for your conference. I never really actually root for my conference, but there are certain things that are in the back of your mind. For March Madness, the Big Ten has not won a national title in 20 plus years. I was not rooting for Purdue when they were in the national title this year, but if they had won, I then would have used that going forward to be like, Hey, we're not a joke anymore. It's like maybe a Maple Leaves fan is not actively rooting for the oilers, but if the oilers win, you know that you can at least not have to deal with these jokes anymore.

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Okay, that's fair. There's also a tinfoil hat theory that Gary Bettman is like, Okay, yeah, these Canadian fan bases, they're going to sell out every building, but he's more concerned about growing the game in the States and favoritism towards these American teams and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I agreed with part of what you're saying, I think that Canadian people just want to say, The Cups back in Canada, fuck you.

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Okay, so we talked about the Edmondson-Oilers X-Factors. You have the Panthers in six. Is it as simple as if the Panthers play their game, they should win this series?

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Yeah. So last year, the issue with Florida was they were a little bit banged up going into that finals. And of course, maybe the lack of experience and the fact that they had to really turn it on from the All-Star break last all the way to the Stanley Cup final, in which it took a lot out of them. They are a better overall team this year. They still have the goal tending from Mabrowski that they had last year. I think they're a little bit better on defense because they picked up Oliver Ekman-Larson, who's making under $3 million. And when he was at the top of his game, when I was playing with him with the Arizona Coyotes, he's at least a number two on most teams in the NHL. So now he's basically in the in the bottom three defense of that team, and as well as a guy, Mikola, who's 6'6, huge body. So these are their five and six defensemen that they have who are, once again, they're not anchors. They're very legitimate D. And then, like I said, going up front, man, they have guys who aren't even going to be in a lineup who are valuable players that could be inserted on their third lines.

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So they are all system go. Sasha Bartkow, easily in the world Right now, probably the new Oze Kopitar as the best 200-foot center, a guy who could be a point of game player, but he's fast. He back checks like a maniac. He's the most reliable center ice position player. I I believe, on the planet, even more so than McDavid from a defensive standpoint. Maybe not that offensive flair, but then you got Matthew K'Chuck, you got Sam Bennett, the menace who will fucking knock you out with a sucker shot if you're not even paying attention. Carter Verhaggy, as we call him, Verhaggy. So clutch with the goal scoring. And the list goes on and on and on. I said Lusteran and then Lundell, those are like their second wave of offense. There are very, very few weaknesses. If they're all systems go, it's going to be very difficult for the Edmonton Oilers to beat this team. But what they don't have are Connor McDavid and Leon Dreisait. If they are going beast mode, then it's a whole new series, and who knows? But listen, I think this is probably one of the best matchups we've seen in the Stanley Cup finals in a very, very long time.

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I'm excited for it. And we were talking with Ken about how good their power play is in Edmonton. Is there something about their game that they do that invites more penalties? They set up plays, they work the fuck around, they put the other team in a position to commit penalty so that way they get that man advantage to really hammer home the power play?

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Well, I mean, also It all depends who you're playing, right? So they played Dallas last round, where for the most part, Dallas was one of the most disciplined teams all season long as well into playoffs, maybe a little less towards the end of the series. And that's when Edminton's power play started clicking. But the way to draw penalties in hockey is you got to win your one on one battles. So if you beat a guy, he's either got to hook you on the way to the net, trip you, do what he can. And Edminton does have individual players like McDavid, dry cycle. Hyman is really good in the net front. He demands a lot of attention. And they do have players where, yeah, you have to maybe pay a little bit more attention and haul them down more so than usual. And that's just based on the power and speed of the top end skill that they do have. But Once again, that's not something that Florida doesn't have either. But what's been even more impressive about the Edminton owners, aside from their amazing power play that I want to say is clicking above 35 % for playoffs, is their penalty kill.

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They've killed off 28 straight penalties. The NHL record in playoffs, I believe, is 38 straight, which that's even crazier, the fact that somebody did that. But Edmitten's PK throughout the season was Man, it was very average. Even after Naublo, their new coach who took over after about 15 games, he handed it off to Mark Stuart. The penalty kill was actually even went down a little bit from that first 15 games, where I think that in the last Let's say 50 games this season, their power play was... Or PK, excuse me, was clicking at about 76 %. Now in playoffs, it's just shy under 94 %, which is remarkable. So their overall special teams has been a much added boost for the Edmonton or others, and a big reason they're in the finals. But going back to special teams, Florida, they have an unreal penalty kill, and their power play was one of the best all season long as well with a guy I didn't even mention earlier, Sam Reinhardt. I think he led the league in power play goals with 30, maybe above that, finished the season with 56 or 57 goals. So he's a beast, too.

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They have weapons, bro. We weapons.

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Okay, I got one last hockey question for you. Okay. Goal goalies, Skinner versus goalie Bob. Is Bob hurt a little? Because I thought I saw some Rangers fans saying he might be a little hampered with something he's dealing with. But what would you say in terms of the goalies? Obviously, Bob is the better goalie, but Skinner has been playing, and he was incredible in that game, six against the stars. So strengths, weaknesses between the two of them.

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So let's start with Bobrowski. So he's the Russian goalie that in Florida got that big contract He signed an eight-year deal at 10 million per and lost his game. And then that's Bobrowski last year on that playoff run, found it. And he's playing all this season and so far in playoffs exactly like he was last playoff. I have not I heard one word about him being potentially injured. So that is news to me. Especially- Keep your eye out. Fair enough. And as that series went on against Florida, he was obviously stellar, but they weren't allowing a lot of high danger chances. They had New York Rangers nuts in a vice.

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Yeah, maybe because he was injured and they were like, We have to do our job.

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Keep on front. Hey, buddy. At the end of the day, most of the time, if you're a team like Florida and you're limiting teams to, let's say, 25 shots on goal and only four or five high danger chances a game, it's going to be hard for them to generate and obviously win. To me right now, goalie goal tending looks fine. Overall team defense looks fine. Nothing wrong with Bob to be worried about.

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I just saw one tweet. I saw one tweet, and I was like, Oh, that's interesting.

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Listen, I'm the guy who reads Twitter, and then all of a sudden starts spouting off, too. Actually, everything I think I've said so far on this podcast is probably false and things that I read off Twitter. I love that. Going across the ice to Skinner, Skinner struggled a little bit in that round against Vancouver, to the point where they put Calvin Pickert in net, their backup, to play back to back games, and he did well. He did solid, but they had the confidence to put Skinner back in game 6 and game seven of that series against Vancouver. And I think he's played eight games since being put back in. He's six and two, and I'd have to look it up online as far as his numbers, but overall, it looks like he's fixed a few things in his game. He's not moving as much. He's not challenging off the goal line as much. He's a little bit backed up. He's using his size more, and he's like a blocker as opposed to a reactor. And when he uses his size properly and he doesn't get all fidgety in that, and he just works his proper angles, he is dialed in and he's doing everything that he needs to do in order for them to win.

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So well above a 900 save percentage. He was better than Oettinger in that last round, and he came up with some big, huge saves. So I would say that if you wanted to call the goal-tending matchup even going in, based on how they're both playing, I would say, let's call it even. So that's where I'm at. But most people with experience and with provenness, But Brosky does have two Vesna trophies, but he has never won the big one in the Stanley Cup finals.

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All right. The big one might be injured, though. We don't know.

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So Wayne Gretzky's brother, Keith Gretzky, is the assistant general manager of the Edmundton Oilers and knows a lot about their farm team. And three, four years ago, the Bakersfield, their AHL team, had made a couple of runs where I don't think they were expected to make runs in the Calder Cup playoffs. And Wayne was like, what are they doing well? And Keith was like, They have this goal. He's Stuart Skinner. He's one at every level. He's as clutch as they come, come playoff time. I believe he's going to help the Oilers win a Stanley in four or five years. Sure enough, here we are. We're going to Stanley Cup final, and he has made a lot of good help with draft picks and calls on some of their prospects coming up, and this could be one of them.

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All right. We'll keep an eye on him. So back to the goal tender being injured situation, maybe. How does that work in terms of the injury reports that teams put out? In the playoffs, do they play it straight? If you got an injury, they put it out, or do sometimes teams withhold that information and just not disclose it at all.

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So I think in football, they have to say exactly what it is that's bugging these guys at a certain date and time. In hockey, it's very private. They usually just go with lower body injury or upper body injury, and that's all the information you're getting. And then, of course, playoff ends for a certain team. They do their end of the year press conferences and media scrums, and then you find out the laundry list of injuries that those guys had throughout playoffs.

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Yeah. All right, so Biz, I had one last question for you. It's a rowback question. R-h-o-b-a-c-k. Com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, and bathing suits, rowback. Com, promo code Taked. We are going to see you in two weeks in Vegas, two and a half weeks for the beer games. But you also have agreed to be in the Dinger's Only League with Jans, which we're announcing it right now. I know I said that I had a verbal commitment on Twitter, but you're a part of this league now. We're going to do the draft on that Monday. Are you ready for this? Do you know anything about baseball? If you lose, are you going to be ready to pitch against the college baseball team?

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Okay, so here are the things I know about baseball, that the worst umpire in the history of the world is retiring after this season.

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I think he's out. He quit. He spent more time with his family this summer.

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Yeah, he's done. My understanding was it was originally said that this would be his last year, but then he just completely shut the mill? I think he shut it down.

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Yeah.

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Do you think he had his Twitter mentions on? Yes.

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No, that was the story that he got bullied online. He was like, I'm sick of all the hate. It's like, well, dude, you suck.

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I don't know. I don't follow baseball. But is this a commitment that I'm making more so than just the day that we draft? Do I have to do this all summer?

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No, not at all. No, that's the beauty of this league. The league is as simple as it gets. All of us draft nine players, and you get, I think, a 10th reserve player, and there's no lineups or anything that set. It's just you go. And the only stat is home runs. And we update it every week. But the only thing is, if you lose, you have to get six outs against a college baseball team. We'll play the field. If you lose, you'll pitch I'll probably catch. Pft and Max and Hank will be in the outfield, so you'd have to do that.

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They'll be there that afternoon?

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Yeah, we did it. Pft lost last year. He had to get six outs against the college baseball team.

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And I pitch.

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You pitch, yeah.

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If you lose- I only hit one guy.

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Yeah.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, let's do it. I love that. I like that. I'm actually leaving Monday morning. I'm driving to Vegas, and then I will be there for whatever time your draft is. Let's hope it's at, what, 2:00 or 3:00? Yeah.

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Whenever you get there, we'll do it. We'll have some drinks. It takes a couple of hours, but it's just us fucking around saying names, and we don't know what we're saying.

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How about I'll 100% do it if you guys take mushrooms with me?

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Oh, no, We don't twist our arms.

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Oh, you're a big mushroom guy?

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Yeah. I'm going to the Sphere on the Saturday and Friday before that.

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Yeah, we're fun, guys. Yeah.

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Okay, let's do it. I'm in. I don't know about Jans on the Schrums, but he'll definitely be there.

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Okay.

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All right, how many baseball players can you name right now?

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I can name Bryce Harper.

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Yep.

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Who's the guy, Yilich?

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Yeah, okay. I'll count that.

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I like him. He seems like a good dude.

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Doesn't really hit home runs, but yeah.

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Carlos Stanton.

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Yeah.

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John Carlos.

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We'll give him back. Carlos Stanton.

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John Carlos?

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Yeah.

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Who's the guy who got busted with the gambling?

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You got this.

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O'tani?

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Yeah. That's four.

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O'shante Itani. What's his first name?

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O'shanty O'Tani.

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Who's the guy in Anaheim? He's the big dog. Fuck.

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Maybe the best hitter of all time. Actually? No, Like, Barry Bonds is that guy, but he's historically good.

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He's like Connor McDavid if Connor McDavid never made the playoffs.

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I think it starts with a T, doesn't it?

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Yeah, it's a fish.

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Oh, Troke. Mike Troke. That's it. Thanks for that. That's fine. I know enough of him. I really like the guy from Cincinnati who he just seems to be a fucking character that doesn't give a care in the world. He's actually Canadian, I think.

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Are you talking about Joey Votto?

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Joey Votto. He's a Canadian.

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Yeah. I don't know if he is. Is he?

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Is Joey Votto? I'm pretty sure he's Canadian.

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Oh, yeah, I think he is.

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You're right. Sean Paul is not Canadian.

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Joey Votto is Canadian. Yeah, he's from Toronto. We'll have a whole cheat sheet for you. We'll have a list of everyone's... Because the thing is, we do the draft, it's already halfway through the season. So we'll have a list of everyone who's already what their home runs are. They don't count. The home runs they hit before the draft don't count, but you can see who's doing well and who's not, and then you just pick off that. I like this. It's as easy as possible.

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I'm so excited. And I'm pumped that you guys are spending even more time that you have in the past invested in the Stanley Cup playoffs because it's been a great run. For all your fans who might be just casual hockey fans, this is going to be an unbelievable final, and there's a lot at stake. A generational talented player might end up hoisting the Stanley Cup for the first time. So even for you Capitals fans, you can really relate to this watching Ovi trying to get his cup. It's been nine years since McDavid has in the NHL, and it's the first time he's in the Stanley Cup finals.

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That's a long time. It would put to bed the narrative out there that I've heard all over the place, which is he can't win the big one, that he's not good enough to win the big one. On one hand, I would not like to give that narrative up. On the other, I understand the pain and the suffering that he's going through, that the fans are going through.

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I appreciate that as a Canadian.

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All right, Biz, you're the best. We're excited for it. We'll see you in a couple of weeks. Get ready for Dingers Only. Bring the mushrooms because we will do that. It will be Dingers Only while we're on the strings to make it even better.

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Are you guys doing the beer Olympics the next day? Yes. We are, yeah.

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Are you? We're very excited.

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It's going to be the best.

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I can't wait, boys. I can't wait. You guys are the best. Love you Guys, and hopefully, we'll see you in Edmonton for game four.

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All right. Okay.

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All right. Save a seat. All right. See you.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He is from the Edminton Oilers. It's Evander Cain. Getting ready for the Stanley Cup finals. How are we feeling on the precipice of being in your first Stanley Cup final?

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Yeah, obviously, really exciting. It's taking a long time to get to this stage, and it doesn't happen every year. So really excited for our group, and obviously, individually. It's been a long time coming, as I said, and I'm looking forward to kicking it off on Saturday night.

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Did you guys make a pact before game six against the stars that you wouldn't be touching the trophy? Because it felt very coordinated that you weren't going to be touching the trophy.

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I'd be lying to you if I said there wasn't some whispers about it prior to the game. Obviously, we wanted to make sure we got the job done first and foremost. But after we squeaked that one out, everybody was on the same page. We weren't touching it, and we were going to wait until we got the big one.

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That's smart. I didn't even think about it. It's like a superstition, like double jeopardy because you don't want to talk about what your plan is with the trophy before you get the trophy, but you also got to get a plan for the trophy to not touch the trophy. Yeah.

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Like I said, there were some whispers. There wasn't anything really that much out there, but I think we all knew what we were doing. And obviously, when the game was over, we weren't touching it.

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I think it was you. I think you were the one. I think you were like, Don't touch that fucking trophy. Don't do it. Don't put me in that position.

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He's an intuition on your part. Yeah.

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Are there any nerves going on the Stanley Cup?

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You know what? I think a lot of us obviously haven't We've been to a Cup final before. I think we have, obviously, we got a guy like Cory Perry who's been to five of them, five different teams. So he has that type of experience. And I know Matias Ecom, he's been to a Cup final in Nashville before. So The thing about our team is we just take it game by game like it's any other game. And I don't envision Stanley Cup final rattling us or getting us overly nervous to have an effect in our game. So that's That's one thing I really like about our group.

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Any additional pressure knowing that you're representing Canada as a whole, trying to win the Cup back for the first time in forever?

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Yeah. I mean, obviously, Canada hasn't had a Stanley Cup in a long time. I think it was '93. I don't know how many Canadians are actually cheering for our team. We played Vancouver in the second round. Toronto's Toronto, as a couple of our teammates have mentioned. But if that's what it's going to be, we're more than happy to take that on. But at the end of the day, we're worried what the Everton Allers.

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Is there a noticeable speed difference between regular season and postseason? And do you think it's going to even go up another level? Because guys talk about that with football where it's like the Super Bowl is just a different level of speed. Do you anticipate that, that there's going to be a different level of speed or nerves, or you think it's just going to be hockey once you get out there?

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You know what? I think there's a massive difference between the regular season and in the postseason. I think the intensity and the desperation that guys play with is, I don't want to say drastically different, but it's noticeably different. And that only continues to ramp up as you move on through each series. So I think you see guys that maybe aren't blocking shots in the regular season that are diving face first in front of pucks to keep it out of your own net at the end of the game. And I think it just shows how important winning is to each and every individual on a group, especially when you're trying to win the Santa Cup. Yeah.

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Yeah. Your power play has been so awesome, Edminton. It's been so fun to watch. Talk a little bit about what your mentality is going into a man advantage when you know that, okay, there's a pretty good chance, like 50 % we're going to score. Do you guys just expect to score every time?

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I think our power play has been historically great. It was the best power play percentage over the course of regular season last year in the history of hockey. I don't know if you're ever going to repeat that again, but obviously, especially in that first round, it did a job for us to win a set series in a quick fashion. I think we have a Confidence that it's either going to score or it's going to create momentum for our group. And I think when a power play is doing that, you obviously set your team up for some success.

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If you have a power play where you don't score, you're saying that that's Sometimes just having a great power play, you end up playing with more confidence?

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Yeah, just having touches, wearing down the other team, being in their zone the entire time, wearing down the goalie a little bit, him having to make big saves, him getting moving in the crease. And I think it just builds confidence when you get Puck touches out there, because when you get those, maybe the next shift, you're a little bit more confident with the Puck. It builds momentum for your group.

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All right, I got a two-part question. I wanted to go back to your first year in the NHL and your first big fight against Matt Cooke, which, if you haven't watched, is one of the cleanest knockouts you've ever seen. In that moment, Matt Cooke was the big badass on the block at that time. In that moment, did you know going into that game I'm going to have to fight Matt Cook, or was it a spur of the moment? And afterwards, you're like, I earned my stripes here?

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Yeah. I'll tell you the story. So yeah, that was the last game, actually, of the regular season for us. We weren't making the play outside here. So that was the last game of my first year. And earlier in that first period, me and Crosby were going out a little bit, and I was getting in his face a little bit. And then I forgot the other guy's name, but there was another big tough guy on pitch where they had two tough guys. That's when every team had two fighters, 15 years ago on every team. And the other guy was Mike Rock. And Mike, these are two massive guys, and I'm just an 18-year-old kid, and they're now getting in my face asking me to fight them. And I'm like, I'm not fighting you guys. That's just not happening. So then the second period rolls around, and I remember Elea Kovalechuk in the intermission, he said, Hey, just make sure you keep your head up out there because these guys are coming after you. So then Matt Cooke asked me to go early in that second period, I believe it was, and I was more than happy to oblige and ended up knocking him out.

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And I remember sitting in the penalty box for in real-time, it was like 20 minutes, and he still was not off the ice. I'm thinking, jeez, I don't want to be the first guy in my first year to kill somebody because he wasn't moving. I was happy to see him get up, but then the very next season, he elbowed me right in the chin and didn't want to fight me again. Because if you get knocked out, I want to fight that guy the very next time I have an opportunity because it can't go any worse for you. But he was a dirty player.

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Yeah, he learned his lessons.

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Yeah, it is one of the cleanest. How often have you watched that back? Because you can't get a cleaner knockout.

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Yeah. Well, no. When it happened, I probably watched it, I'm not even over-exaggerating it, 300 times. And then I actually got a gift basket from the Boston Brewings later that year in the offseason because of what he did to Mark Savard.

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Wow. That's awesome.

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That is sick.

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We were talking to Yandel a couple of weeks ago about what you say when you're trying to get a fight with somebody, whether you're the person who's instigating it, who wants to fight. And he said, Usually, it's like you want to go, you want to fucking go, or you want one. And then if you don't want to fight, you just say, My coach told me I'm not allowed to. So for you, you got anything that you say right off the bat, like, Let's fucking go?

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It depends who it is. It really depends who it is. I rarely fight where it's like I'm just fighting the fight. It's usually off a motion or something's transpired during that play. I remember just earlier this year, I asked Brenda Dylan, who was actually a teammate of mine in San Jose. There was no real animosity. There wasn't anything, but I just wanted to get myself going. So I just said, Yeah, you want one? And he said, Absolutely. So we went. And Gando was right. Those are the three phrases you use. And if you're fighting off a motion, usually you don't ask. You just start throwing.

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Yeah, that's a very cordial way of saying it. You want one?

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Absolutely. It also feels like somebody asked me if I wanted one. It sounds like if I say yes, I'm saying, Yeah, I want you to kick my ass. I would say, No, you want one?

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Yeah, you want one. Yeah, back and forth. You want one-off. Who wants one? Yeah, you're just very Canadian friendly, just going, You want one? You want one? No, you want one. Over and over.

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That's the ultimate respect.

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Yeah. All right. You mentioned that Matt Cooke fight, you didn't want to fight the guys who were massively bigger than you, but you did fight Charra later on in your career. That was stupid.

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I mean, yeah, it probably was. But at the same time, I wasn't an 18-year-old in my rookie here. He's seven feet tall on the ice, so he hit me in the head and I went down, and I looked at the ref, and his arms were glued to his kneecaps, and I was so mad that there wasn't a penalty on the play. I just turned around and I jumped Charra. I had him in this, I thought, pretty good headlock, but he just kept standing up. He just kept getting taller so that my arms were... Now I don't have him in the headlock, and now he strung me out, and that's the worst possible position to be in on a guy who's a foot taller than you. I just held on for dear life and made sure my face wasn't pounded into the cement.

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Yeah. So a second part of the question that started with the Matt Cooke was, the Panthers do play a physical style hockey, and we've seen K'Chuck get into straps and be physical. So do you know, going Coming into this series, is it going to be a little different where it's like, I got to set a tone or just be ready for this?

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No, I think this is going to be a very physical series. They obviously have some guys that like to Scrum it up after the whistles. Dallas was very different with the team we just played. Obviously, we played a couple of their guys that were on Calgary before a couple of years ago in the playoffs, K'Chuck being one of them. So there is a bit of a history there. Our I anticipate it being a very spirited emotional series with two teams wanting to try to impose their game on one another. So I'm sure I'll be right in the middle of that.

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Yeah, that was a nice way of saying, you're going to hate their guts by the end of this thing. Yeah.

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It's spirited, physical. Yeah.

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It's going to get nasty. Yeah. It's going to get nasty.

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I love your home ice advantage that you have in Edmonton, too. And we're dumb fans. We watch on TV, so all we know is really what the camera shows us. You guys have A great fan base. Really good fan base.

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Are you talking about a specific fan?

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No. Are you talking about a specific fan?

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No. I thought you were maybe talking about a specific fan.

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I mean, maybe there is. If I rack my brain, yeah, I'm racking. Yeah, there's one- What was he or she wearing? It was a jersey. Got it. You got a lot of fans that wear your jersey most of the time, and then sometimes they're not wearing all of your jersey. They take part of it off.

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I believe it wasn't even at a game. It was at a watch party, too. We were on the road playing.

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Yeah, that's right. That's even better.

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How quickly after that game is over, did you guys pass around the phone in the locker and be like, Look what a fan did?

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Well, I think it was almost impossible not to see that video. Several times. He's been in Everton and just turning on your cell phone. We have an incredibly, again, I'll use the word passionate fan base. I think that was a great example of that.

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Yeah. Did you guys get in fights in locker room, trying to argue what jersey he or she was wearing?

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You know what? I don't know how many people were actually looking at the jersey.

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Yeah, true. But after the thousands watch, you could be like, Oh, yeah.

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Apparently, it was discovered she was wearing a Sam Gagneh jersey.

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Oh, that's a massive dub for him.

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He's a long time, Stulie. Old school.

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Yeah. Obviously, he was an oil a long time ago as well for a lot of years and a fan favorite. So no surprise, I guess.

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That's got to be huge for him. Just a little pep in his step, man. Like, damn.

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It's like Gregor's or McDavid's probably walking around the locker room afterwards. Like, yeah, that's my jersey. Obviously, she was wearing my jersey. Yeah.

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It's also that old saying, You don't die until the last person utters your name. His career goes as long as someone's flashing their tits with his jersey on.

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You say utters? Yeah, you could say Yeah.

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What?

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Is that wrong? No, with Ds. Oh, yeah. Two Ds with double Ds in the middle.

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Yeah.

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It was fantastic.

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You just watched us do the show for a second there.

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Is your ice shinier? It looks shinier on TV.

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Compared to who?

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Compared to every other team. It seems like you guys have the best ice in the league.

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Maybe we just have really good lighting in the arena. It's one of the best arenas. Definitely in the league. So maybe it's just the lighting. I don't know.

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It was crazy how bad you guys were to start the season. Now you're in the Stanley Cup final. Was there ever a moment in the beginning of the season where it's like, Shit, this isn't just a slow start. We actually have to start worrying that we're getting too deep here?

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Yeah. I mean, after the first 10 games, it was continuing. And I don't want to say dealt, but we definitely... The urgency was It was at an all time high to end this slump or whatever you want to call it and get back into the winning column. And we have to play catch up now. We really start to have to put some wins together five, six, seven games in a row just to start climbing in the sand dunes to get ourselves back in a playoff spot. And we did that. We did that tenfold. We won eight in a row, we won 16 in a row, and obviously got ourselves back to where we thought we would be at the beginning of the year. So that was impressive.

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Was there a moment where it started to click and you were like, Okay, this is something we can build off of?

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Yeah, I think it was the game in Washington. A couple of guys said some things in the room before we played Washington. I made a bet with the boys if we won five or six in a row or seven in a row was, I'd wear double Rolexes for warmup, which I ended up having to do. And then when we were winning 16 in a row, we had a bet going with if we'd made it 20, Davo was going to have to wear a grill in warmup. So we didn't get to 20. I'm sure he was probably not happy about it, but not overly disappointed. So he didn't have to follow up with that grill and warm up.

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If you win a cup, he has to do it.

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Oh, yeah.

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I think we'll take it one step at a time.

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We're four wins away. We'll start with Saturday. Yeah.

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We can't talk about it. We can't remember we're in superstitions. Will you guys be... No, I was going to say, will you touch the cup if you win it? I can't ask That's what you're doing. I can't even ask that. You can't even ask that.

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You touched the cup. Well, no. Maybe they will.

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Will we touch the cup?

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Yeah, maybe they will. I can answer that. Yes. Oh, you jinks yourself, dude. Why would you do that?

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No, no, no. That's a common sense question. Everybody does.

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You never know.

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So you're satisfied. I'll talk about it. You're satisfied with one cup? Because if it were me, personally, I wouldn't touch the cup the first time. Yeah, I wouldn't either. Bad luck because I want to win two in a row.

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I wouldn't touch the cup until I want to make five.

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I actually don't think... I'm going to challenge you on that. I think every person who's won multiple cups has touched it the first time.

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Right. But they If they top themselves off, you keep touching the cup, eventually you're going to stop winning cups. What if you never touch the cup?

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You just can win forever? I wouldn't be satisfied with winning cups. We haven't proved that. I'm already thinking about the next one.

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The first person to not touch the cup might win infinity cups. We don't know.

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Yeah, we don't know. I rest my case.

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I rest my case.

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Good point.

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We don't know.

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It might be a sensitive topic to bring up, but I was watching I did an interview with you the other day, and it was right after you had the devastating wrist injury when you got your wrist run over by Pat Maroon's skate. You were talking about how are you going to start wearing Kevlar around your wrist, or you were thinking about some protection. Is that something that you're doing now on both wrists?

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Yeah, I am. I wear a cut resistant undershirt under my equipment that has Kevlar on both wrists so that they protect them.

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It was honestly shocking to hear you so soon after that injury, which was a life and death moment for you. So soon talking about getting back on the ice, getting back with the guys, spending time with them. Because if it were me, I would be like, I'm never playing hockey again. I could see somebody going that direction. Did you know from the instant you started your recovery? Like, Okay, I'm a hockey player. I'm going to go back and play hockey? Or was there a small part of your brain that was like, Maybe it might be time to hang this one up?

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No, I never had any thoughts about any of my career over that type of injury. I think my biggest focus was wanting to be able to come back that year because early on or after I got a surgery, they had ruined at least the regular season out for me and maybe be back for the playoffs. And then when I actually got all the bandages off and I saw the wound, I was actually sick when I first saw it, to be honest. But I ended up coming back in two and a half months, which nobody thought I'd be able to do. I put a lot of work into trying to get my feeling back and desensitize that area as much as I could. I still have sensitivity, but definitely not how you draw up a year going with an injury like that. It was a scary moment for me when it happened.

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Super scary moment. But I guess the only upside now is, do you feel like Batman when you put on your Kevlar?

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Well, I definitely feel more protected. I honestly wouldn't get on the ice in an NHL atmosphere without that on. I think just with what I went through and having those flashbacks a little bit, I definitely feel a lot more secure on the ice. Because honestly, it happens more than you think. It actually happened again this year where it saved my other wrist. It It wasn't as prominent as obviously somebody stepping on your wrist, but it was just a glancing scape blade that if I wasn't wearing that, I probably would have been cut not as severely, but it did save me. So it does happen. It's the same thing with those cut resistant socks. It happened to a player a bunch of years ago where he cut his Achilles, and the whole league got these cut resistant socks in. I put them on right away, and two games later, I got stepped on with a hit. It wasn't stepped on. It was two guys going on boards, and the skate came down behind my boot, and it actually cut the cut resistant sock. I had a very small cut on my leg. But if I wasn't wearing those, it was where the major already was, and I could have...

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You never know. It's a very dangerous sport, hockey is. I think anytime you can put on something a little bit more protective, especially when comes to cut resistance stuff, why not?

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Yeah, that's crazy. I remember when it happened with your wrist and the panic, it was just like... Because you don't see it very often on the ice where a hockey guy is like, This is a problem right now. We have to fix it right now. And just how scary that moment was.

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Yeah, no, it definitely was scary. Yeah.

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Happy every... I mean, now you're in the Stanley Cup final. This is awesome. I wanted to ask you about McDavid and playing with him. Can you explain explain the difference in his speed versus everyone else to people who might not have watched enough McDavid this year or the last few years?

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Yeah. Obviously, he's an incredibly fast player in straight lines and whatnot. There's lots of fast players. But I think what separates him is that all his limbs and his mind were in unison together at that speed. His hands move as fast as feet, his brain moves as fast as his hands. He's so coordinated, and then obviously just the strength on his edges. And I think there's probably no better example of that than the goal he scored in game six against Dallas. It's something that I don't think any player possesses in terms of that type of skillset. And obviously, one of the best to ever do it, if not the best to ever do it.

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Yeah. I mean, that goal, it was a joke. That goal was a joke. It looked like a goal you'd see in an All-Star game, not game 6 of the Western Conference final.

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Yeah, it looks like a goal like you're playing three and three with your buddies in summer.

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Right. Is that the most impressive thing that he's done, or has there been another play that might not be in as big a moment where you watch him and you're like, That person is simply not human?

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I mean, jeez, there's been so many incredible goals he scored. To date, that's probably the most impressive thing that he's done that I can remember off the top of my head. And I think when you have it in that type of moment, it amplifies. So I'll give him that for right now.

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Yeah. Do you think they should bring the Thrasher's back? You got drafted by the Thrasher. You were the last Thrasher's first-round draft pick, right?

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I was the second last. Alex Bermustraff was the last. I loved Atlanta. I loved my time there. I had an incredible two years. The fans in Atlanta, I think, were awesome. I think it's a great city to live. Lots to do. I'm all for getting hockey back in Atlanta. Yeah. That's a great idea.

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Good franchise. Is there a city in either Canada or the United States that you think deserves a hockey team?

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Again, I'd argue Atlanta. I'm a real homer in that regard. That's where I started my career. I had my first two years there, I had great experiences, and I'd love to see hockey back in that market with the right ownership group. I think it would do incredibly well.

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What do you think about Biz's mustache? Do you like it? Or are you like, this looks like a caterpillar died on his lip?

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Yeah, I think he's rocked a lot of different hairstyles and facial hairstyles in the past. I think this suits him, to be honest, the best. I think it really does. I think just a straight mustache, that's perfect for him.

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You were named after Evander Holyfield?

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Yes.

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That's a lot of pressure. When When did you realize the pressure?

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I honestly never looked at it that way. I had a very athletic family growing up. My dad played hockey. He was an amateur boxer. My cousin, Kirk Johnson was a professional boxer. So there's a lot of boxing in my family. And my grandfather, his favorite boxer was Evander Holyfield. And my dad and mom decided to name him after me, or named me after him. Pardon me. I actually got an opportunity to meet him in Atlanta my rookie year. So that was pretty cool because he was living there.

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We got an opportunity to not interview him, but we got a listener just duped us and texted our producers saying that Evander Holyfield wanted to come on the show, and we just sat in a hotel room for three hours waiting for him to show up, and he just didn't show up.

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It was a good prank.

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It was a good prank. That's our Evander Holyfield story.

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You're named after one of the best boxers of all time, and maybe best wrestler of all time, too. It's a strong name.

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Yeah, Cain. Cain? Yeah. Cain, yeah.

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The undertaker's brother. I was a big WWF fan growing up.

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Who was your favorite?

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The Rock.

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I don't like you anymore now. Really? I'm a Stone Cold guy.

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Yeah, but they made each other. I'm a huge Stone Cold guy, too. Nobody wants this double middle finger in the air and be smashing beers more than me, especially if we win. I love Stone Cold, too. But The Rock, you just had that extra charisma and that showmanship, right?

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It was hard not to like it. Yeah. I mean, whenever he did the eyebrow. The Eyebrow. The Eyebrow was good. Got the people going.

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The elbow was good, too. Got the people going. Yeah. You're growing up How early did you learn how to skate? When did you first put the skates on?

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I was three years old.

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So right after you start walking, skates?

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Yeah, I started skiing at three. My dad got me on the ice, took me to a public skate, and that's That's all she wrote. I worked with my dad my entire career, but he was the one I worked with, specifically early on before I got to the NHL, and is a big reason why I am where I am.

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What's the longest you've gone without skating?

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Eight months.

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That's a long time.

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Yeah, I had shoulder surgery.

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That one makes sense.

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Yeah, long, long, long time.

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Did you grow up a Canucks fan?

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Yeah. Colorado and Vancouver were my favorite teams. I was a big Marcus Naslin fan, big Joe Sackik fan, big Peter Foresberg fan. Those are my favorite players, along with the Ginla. So I was big fans of Colorado and Vancouver.

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Yeah. Those Colorado teams were very good.

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Is there a guy that you looked up to? You get into the league and all of a sudden you're on the ice skating against them, a guy that you've been watching for years?

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Yeah. My very first exhibition game, I was incredibly star struck. We were playing Nashville, and Paul Korea was on Nashville warming up on the other blue, and I looked over like, it's just crazy. I was like eight years old watching Paul Korea play for the Mighty Ducks, and now I'm out here playing against them. And then the other guy would probably be Jerome McGinnla. I wouldn't say modeled my game, but I really like his style of play, and obviously, to play against him early in my career. That was pretty cool.

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Yeah. All right. I had one last question. This has been awesome, Evander. We really appreciate you taking time before the Stanley Cup final starts. Rowback question, rooback. Com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback. Com, promo code take. So my last question is, in the Stanley Cup playoffs, and now obviously in the final, like hockey locker rooms from our perspective, and we know Biz and wit very well and all those guys. It feels like a very jovial, joking around place. Does it get a lot more serious before a big playoff game? And is there that weird line where it's like, hey, we got to keep doing what we're doing. Why are we switching this up just because we're in the playoff?

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Yeah, I think I touched on it earlier. Our team is... We're very business-minded. We're very serious, but at the same time, we're really tight. We like to joke around. We're talking about lots of different things the morning of the game before pregame skate or whatnot joking around. And I think if that were to change, I think that would be a negative, that would have a negative impact on our group. And I think we've done a really good job each round as the pressure continues to mount, the stakes get higher of staying with what we've been doing all year long. And I don't see that changing even in the Stanley Cup finals. And I think if we do that and continue that off the ice, it's going to to hopefully the same on ice results we've had.

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You're going to maybe be like, look at this video of this fan right before you go punk drop.

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I will get her tattooed.

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I think we'll have to do the material by that time.

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I don't know. I'm her, yes. Play the hits. Just keep playing the It's a hit.

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Somebody should get her tattooed on their body if they win the Stanley Cup.

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Well, it won't be a veteran guy. Maybe you're a rookie.

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Yeah, I might do it, actually. She made me fall back in love with her.

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That's a good move. I like that. That'd be great.

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Yeah. Okay, so you're not going to say... We're not going to do any official predictions for you guys, but give us a roadmap. How do the Oilers win the Stanley Cup? What does that look like? What do you have to do?

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I think we just got to continue to play our game. I think everybody obviously has to raise their level individually. And I think if we do that as a group, our best, I think, will be good enough.

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Score more goals than them.

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That's obviously a very good equation. To winning a hockey game. Yeah.

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That works as well. Yeah.

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Take a lot of shots.

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Pucks on net.

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Pucks and bodies on net. They give you the old clichés. Pucks out of the blue lines, pucks in at their blue line. Finish your checks, all that good stuff.

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Here's one, just the last one. Maybe tell McDavid that could you play a little bit more? I don't know. A lot of guys don't... Patrick Holmes doesn't come off the field on offense. Just stay on the ice the the whole time.

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Yeah, that's not realistic in hockey.

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If it were me. Hockey is not that tough.

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You have to drag me off the ice.

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Sounds like hockey. Then be like a five on four, and you're now helping the other kid.

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Yeah. You have to drag both of us off the ice. It's five on three.

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This is an example of a great intellectual debate that we have on the show. Sometimes do you think that a team that has, let's say, 15 Connor McDavid, but also Connor McDavid has to play goalie? Do you think that that team could win the Stanley Cup?

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You have to play goalie?

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Yeah, every position.

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Yeah, you just get- And he's playing against real NHL teams? Yeah, but it's just Conor McDavid on every position.

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Yeah, I mean, that'd be tough. But I'd probably say no still. Goalie is a very important position. It's way harder than people think. Okay. I Danny Green come out in Vancouver and put on goalie equipment, and he could barely move.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Here's- 6, 7, 6, 8.

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Takes up a lot of money. Yeah. All right, last one. If you had 15 Evander Caines on a team and 15 Charas on a team, how many fights would the Evander Canes team win?

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Are we going like 15 on one?

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No, each Evander Canes going against Chara, like consecutively, 15 fights.

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I'd probably say maybe 10% of them.

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Okay. That's not bad. So you win at least one, one and a half.

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I think I could maybe speak at a couple or two. I'd speak at a couple. You got a puncher's chance. You get a puncher's chance.

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I'd get inside on him? Yeah. Maybe trips.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Because really, correct me if I'm wrong, obviously, you can win a hockey fight if you knock someone out like you did with Matt Cooke. But you could also win a hockey fight just by taking it to the ground and being on top of it. On top of the other guy. And then everyone's like, Oh, he must have won.

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Yeah, a lot of guys go for the takedown and the referees hop in. Yeah. A lot of guys try to do that now. I'm not a huge fan of that. I don't think you won the fight because you took the guy down by any stretch of the imagination. But yeah, you are seeing that a little bit more. I think that's some of the younger generation, their whole UFC attitude with some of the on-ice fights.

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Yeah.

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Well, good luck. I speak for myself. I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for you. Yes. I I appreciate, boys. I want Canada to get one back. I want this team to win one. I'm sick of having the conversation of whether or not McDavid can win the big one. You think he can win the big one?

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We're in the finals. We're going to do everything we can.

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Smart answer. But I'm sick of having that conversation, too. It's so annoying. I don't want to have it. It does this where they're like, Oh, he can't win the big one. It's like, Dude, he's fucking awesome.

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And he's way on a team, and he's got a great team around him. It's a team sport. Hockey is the ultimate team sport. If you reduce it to one guy winning the big one, you don't know Puck. Right.

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Yeah. No, Hockey, I think, is the ultimate team sport. It's not like other sports. You can have one or two guys, and you can win a championship. That's just not the way our sport is. It's almost impossible. Facts.

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All right. Well, Evander, best of luck, man. We really appreciate it. And if you guys do win, we'd love to have you back on.

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Awesome. I appreciate you guys. All right. See you, man. Thanks very much.

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See you, man.

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Okay, let's do some Firefest. Welcome back to Firefest. It is brought to you by our friends at Morgan & Morgan. You know what really sucks? When Hank won't take off his costume, even though we tape Dungeon. Why are you so jealous?

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Why are you so jealous?

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You know what also really sucks? Getting injured. I've never seen a person being jealous. That's not what that is. That's not That emotion. Pure jealousy. But you know what? It doesn't suck calling Morgan & Morgan so they can help you get what you deserve. Well, they can't help Hank fix his spider problem. They can help fight to get you full and fair compensation when injured. Their fee is free. Unless they win, for more information, go to forthepeople. Com/pmt or dial pound law, pound 529 from your cell phone.

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You think Big Cat's jealous of that? No.

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Definitely. It's like, stand up. When Big Cat starts chirping me this hard, it's like anger, and it's a lot of bit of like, I wish I could pull that off.

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Hank's saying that Big Cat's like, Yeah, people watch part of my take for him, but they also watch part of my take for me, too.

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Yeah, on this. All right, let me put it on. If I'm so jealous, let me put it on. No. What? I want to put it on.

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I meant I'm jealous.

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I want to put it on. I want to put it on. No.

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Get your own.

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Stand up and spin around for the people.

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You look like a beaver trapper.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.

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Yeah, you look like the guy that dies first in a Civil War movie.

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You look like a dude who did Dungeon and Dragons this morning then had nothing to do for the next five hours.

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What does that mean? We were working fucking fantasy land. I can wear whatever I want.

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Okay, go ahead.

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We had a cricket.

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That's right.

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Also, biggest upset in sports history, USA just beat Pakistan.

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Let's go USA.

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Coincidence, I think not.

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Biggest in sports history?

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You can never take off that vest.

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No, I guess not.

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Okay. How fast do you think our best baseball players would win the cricket? The World Series of Cricket. Cricket's fucking hard.

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Jack said that the pro cricket players were looking at my swing, and they were like, We could really use that guy.

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Sure.

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You want me to go get him?

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I bet they were genuinely impressed. I'll go grab them right now. I bet they weren't just being nice.

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They singled me out over your swing, that's for sure.

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Yeah, well, I'm not saying I could take over the world in cricket.

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You just said baseball players. If so, facto. We're still trying to get me drafted. Let's not forget that. Fact.

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We got Breaking Moose. We got Breaking Moose. Hold on. I want to make sure that I have the date That's right. Oh, my God. What? What do you think I would do?

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I thought you were getting a reschedule.

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No.

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You're canceling of beer Olympics.

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No.

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That'd be a shame.

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Oh, no. But here's Breaking Moos. Oh. So, beer Olympics, which we will be attending, begrudgingly, has been tossed around a million times. They've taken away other people's dates because they were trying to get Jason, Kelsey, and Travis, Kelsey to come. The Kelsey's then dropped out. But Jason, Kelsey officially set state for his celebrity bartend at Ocean Drive, hosting Bier Bowl in Sea Isle City.

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O. D. Rocks. Yeah. Is it the same?

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Same day as the Bier Olympics.

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Is it actually?

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Yeah.

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No, fuck that.

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He's like, I don't have a weekend to just go out to Las Vegas.

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That's so great.

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I got to go to the shore and drink beer.

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No, they're proud members of Sea Isle or residents of Sea It's for charity. It's for a good cause rather than just drinking beers with the fucking boys.

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Perfect. That is going to be a great event. Everyone should go to that event and not to the Olympics. Okay, Hank.

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Yeah, spiders are back in a big way. I don't really know what to do every time I get rid of them. They keep coming back. I'll start taking pictures. They're fucking huge. I feel like I'm just eating spiders in my sleep, which leads me to my next point. If you guys, I'm sure you all remember. Remember when I was sleeping basically upside down last year? Yeah. Bed was angled and I didn't realize it for a couple months. Like a bat. I can't say I recall. I sat in my bed, and I...

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You didn't have the slats set up perfectly?

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Yeah, I had them slanted downwards. The slats were set up, but the way I screwed it in... Doca beam. They came down, yeah. And I fucked up my back. Stop the microphone. I think I... Let's say, please. Let's go be it. I mean, it's annoying.

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All the listeners out there heard Hank just grabbing the microphone. They're probably like, Oh, is my radio broken or my earbud's broken?

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Hank, we're taping this at three o'clock right after your afternoon or right before your afternoon siesta. You usually take a nap right around now.

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Oh, CSM, I'm in the gym at 4:30. What? Then I'm probably going to take a nap 4:30.

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What's your prediction for this game? I don't know.

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I'm nervous.

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Yeah, see, It's not me, it's you. You're the nervous little thing right now.

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I'm still next by 6:00.

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3, 4, 6.

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Okay, didn't cover.

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No, who cares? Do you have a marriage bet with Tiffany?

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Yeah, we're working on something. We're trying to figure it out before the game time.

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I think the loser should have to smooch the winner.

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Yeah, I suggested the loser has to pay for our trip wherever we choose to go. Together. Together? Yeah.

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And what airline?

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Not American.

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Yeah.

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But it's so de facto, long story short. I was on the phone. I was doing I'm day drinking Saturday, and I was just on the phone with someone, and I, not jumped on my bed, but just fell on the bed on the phone, and I think I broke one of my slats.

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Were you having phone sex?

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No, I was just...

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You broke your bed having phone sex?

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You guys are the worst. Never mind. I haven't checked the damage. I haven't looked up the mattress.

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You just said you were drunk. You called someone on the phone, and you jumped on your bed.

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I was on the phone with a friend making plans. Okay.

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I'm pretty sure- What were the plans? Like I'm going to come in 10 minutes. I'm done.

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Southerners in five.

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Go ahead. He's sleepy.

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Finish.

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No, I can't exist. I can't.

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Finish. I apologize.

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I can't I can't exist.

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Finish.

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Based off my sleep the last couple of nights, I'm pretty sure I broke the slats in my bed, and I haven't checked it.

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Yeah, they might not be broken. They might just... You know how they can come off, but they're not broken. Second.

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Yeah.

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So just look.

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Just lift your mattress.

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Wait, you just haven't looked?

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Well, I forgot. I woke up this morning again and was like, What the fuck? And then I left, and then it hit me today. I was like, Oh.

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A normal person would just look the minute they woke up and said, What the fuck?

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I didn't know what it was. I got up at 6:30 this morning, so I was just like, I must be tired. And then I was like, Oh. And then I was like, My back hurts. I was like, Oh, I think...

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Shit.

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Yeah, you just lift the mattress up, and the slats probably fell down in between the box. Correct.

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So they're not broken. We'll see.

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Who knows?

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It could be anything. I love the fact that you just slept on an uneven bed for a year.

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You were sleeping upside down. It was three months.

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He just started a new streak. It's going to be another three months here before he looks under his mattress.

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Now, I'm going to get to the bottom of Are you?

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Yeah. When?

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Probably not tonight.

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Tomorrow. Maybe Celtic's when Tiff comes, helps you repair your bed.

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So tune in for the mayor's bed?

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Yeah. Nice. Okay. I'm excited.

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My Firefest-Suggestions?

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Any suggestions that aren't... Actually, that was a dumb one.

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Do you want to take that back? Yeah. Okay.

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It's an easy fix. Anyways, my Firefest of the Week is I I posted this online yesterday.

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You said you had a doosie.

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Is this the doosie? Yeah, this is the doosie. Okay. Life goal accomplished. Yes. Put the checkmark next to it. Your boy got an El Camino. It's been my dream car for a very long time. There's one word to describe an El Camino, and it's bitching. This ride is fucking sweet. 1970, SS, Racing Stripe, Cherry Red. It is the El Camino of El Camino. I got it. It purrs. It makes a great noise. I was driving I went around yesterday, and I parked it on the side of the road, and now it won't start.Oh, no.Now.

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It doesn't start. The car is awesome, by the way. Congratulations.thank you.It was incredible. I'm very, very happy for you.

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I'm actually thinking about getting a mullet as an accessory to my car because the El Camino is a mullet of cars. It's business in the front, party in the back. So it doesn't start now, and I don't know what to do with it. I guess I have to get it towed somewhere and have them fix it. I got a lot I knew that I had to put some work into it. It's not 100% ready to roll yet. The sound system is awesome. That's the important part. But I have to fix all the lights, the wiring on the inside. And now I was cool with that. I was like, whatever. It's just wiring. The motor is fine. It's been rebuilt. It's going to do me good. I pulled it over, and now it doesn't start. It's just on the side of the road right now. I have a feeling like I'm just going to have to become a car guy. It's going to be the thing that I try to fix up and never gets actually correctly fixed.

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That'd be cool, though.

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It'd be cool.

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I'm an aspiring car guy.

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In the short time that I've had it, I've realized why old dudes become car guy. I drove it around, and every guy, every dude that's above the age of 45, stops you and flags you down. It's like, That's a cool car, man. What's under the hood? Was that a 456? Then you get into a conversation, you make a new friend. That's how old guys make friends.

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Not only that, but old cars break down. That's how The old guys just spend their day.

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Yeah, just working. Just fixing their own car. Working on their car. I'm going to have to figure out, first of all, what's wrong with it and why it won't start. Then hopefully, I can get it back in working order shortly because this is the best car for the summertime. I I need to have this ready for me for the summertime. I was so excited yesterday, and I put out that video, and then about literally an hour later, the car just doesn't start now.

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Whatever, just play the video.

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Yeah. Just keep playing the video. I do close my eyes. Remind yourself. I close my eyes and I think about it. I'm like, Fuck, yes. I have an El Camino at home for me. I'm very excited about the potential behind it, but now I'm realizing that I'm going to just pour a bunch of money into fixing this car.

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I'm very happy for you. My El Camino-like car is just a sick old Cadillac. I don't want a sick old Cadillac or Bronco. Bronco is more of a beach car, but a sick old Cadillac that could sit three people in the front.

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Yeah, huge front-end on it, big-ass boat. Yeah, I want one of those. I've been also thinking about how to accessorize the El Camino because it does need some flair to it. It's a cool car, but when you have an El Camino, you have to have bitch and bumper stickers. The ones that I've got on my shortlist, I want to get an ass gas or grass, nobody rides for free bumper sticker. That's a good one. Maybe Calvin peeing on something. Calvin peeing on the Ford logo, maybe Calvin peeing on Charlotte the Stingray, Calvin peeing on the Dallas Cowboys star. One of those things. One that says, If you're going to ride my ass, at least grab my hair. I think that'd be a good one. Yeah, maybe one that just says legalize soup. I don't know. But I got to accessorize this thing. Get the Hoola Girl, the fuzzy dice hanging from it, customize Horn, maybe get Max rolling around with a keg in the back. So I'm like the ice cream guy, but for beer. So you just go around selling beer to dudes.

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It's unlimited. You're Mr. Unlimited.

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Yeah, I'm very excited. I feel like I've been an El Camino guy my entire life just without the El Camino. But now that I have it, it's not working. I don't know. If you fix cars in Chicago, let me know. If you specialize in 1970s cars, I would love to hear from you because we got to get this baby purr. It also needs a name. So feel free to give me the name.It.

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Got to be a chick name.

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Chick names.

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Tiffany?

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Carmen. Oh, Tiffany's a good name. Tiffany's a really get it.

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We said a woman's name for a car, and you came up with Carmen?

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Carmen San Diego. I was thinking Carmen San Diego.

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You just said the name car.

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Carmen San Diego.

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What about Caroline?

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Carmen San Diego. Red.

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Yeah.

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Sexy Red.

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It was Sexy Red, yeah. Sexy Red. Sexy Red is pretty good.

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Sexy Red.

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Yeah.

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That's not a name.

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It is.

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For a car, yeah.

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It's also a person. It's an adjective and a It's a person's name.

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Andy Reid.

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Yeah. Yeah, Andy Reid is not-Carmella.

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Carmella. There you go, Hank. You got another one.

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Sexy Red. Sexy Red is good. My Pussy Pink, my transmission fluid, Brown.

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Yeah, Sexy Red. You got a Camino now.

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You can do that. I can do anything.

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You're a Mr.

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Unlimited. I have transcended race. I'm no longer a white man. I've achieved the most powerful form of white boy summer of all time. I'm a white boy with a fucking El Camino. You're ready to go.

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Okay, congrats again. That's awesome. Thank you.

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But I'm afraid I'm going to double the price of the car just trying to fix it up.

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Yeah, probably. By the way, is Vanny Woodhead here?

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I haven't seen it.

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Might have got a car jack. Is it or no?

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Go check in the loading dock.

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Was it supposed to be here today?

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It was not here yesterday.

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It was not here on Monday either. It looked. The loading dock. It's supposed to get here at some point.

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Yeah.

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Might be lost in the sauce somewhere out there.

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Billy might have just gotten ahead of it on the road and then just carjacked the dude that's driving it over here. Yeah.

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All right. I don't really have a Firefest. I guess I got to just stop responding to people on Twitter because every time I do, I just realize that then it just has a bunch of other people respond. Some guy was like, You yawned a bunch on Sunday night. I was tired. I was like, Yeah, this is unfortunately having three kids is like, I'm tired. I don't have any time to myself, which not a complaint because I have the best life ever. But then just a bunch of people being like, We didn't tell you to have kids. There were some people who were backing me up, but I just got to just not.

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Did they tell you to have kids?

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Those people did not tell me to have kids.

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Okay, so if you did not tell Big Got to have kids, then you have a legitimate gripe.

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Yeah, it was a simple just response to why I was yarning, not there. That was why I was yarning. I'm just perpetually tired. You're going to have to deal with it. Yeah, I feel that. I keep showing up. Yeah, Hank has the same thing going on in his life.

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Maybe Hank's tired all the time because he sleeps on an uneven, jagged edge of a bed. Hank sleeps on the agro crag, and then he wonders why he's tired all day.

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It's been like two days. Chill out.

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You slept for four months upside down.

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But if I yawn, that's why. It's not because I'm bored. It's because I probably have not slept ever.

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Big Cat, can I step in real quick? I think the appropriate person to blame for your tiredness is actually Hank, because Hank's always yawning because he's always tired. Then it's contagious and you catch it. True. Stop yauen, Hank.

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True. Remember when you guys made me on in the podcast?

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I do. Yeah, disgusting yawn.

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I haven't done it since.

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I also don't know what it is about this specific spring, I don't know if you guys have felt this, but this is supposed to be our not as busy time, and it felt like it's way busier than ever.

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Way busier.

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I don't know what's going on. Someone didn't get the message that this is supposed to be our not busy time.

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Yeah, I thought it was after the memorial. Well, I think it's after NBA Finals and NHL Finals.

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Yeah, well, that's basically- But I already know the schedule for the rest of the summer, and there's no break.

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So I feel like...

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Yeah. Again, these complaints are not real complaints. We know we have the best job in the world. I don't want anyone to be like, I can't believe you guys are complaining about this. I'm literally just stating a fact. That's why I was tired. Go ahead.

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Yeah, I was just going to say NBA, NHL, playoffs, they're sneaky. I think we have this conversation. Yeah, that's true. We work later hours than we do usually in football season because football season It's late night Sunday, and then late night Thursday. But I'm talking about NBA Playoffs, it's Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday night, every night.

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But we just have other stuff going on.

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I haven't golfed all week.

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I am going on a three-day vacation next week. We'll have regular shows.

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Don't worry. You know what it is? It's also knowing the Bureau Olympics are coming.

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That's what it is.

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That's what makes it Big Cat.

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When you have something you just desperately do not want to do sitting in front of you for as long as it's been sitting in front of us? Your whole Life is just basically ruined.

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Yeah. Actually, if you need to blame Big Cat for being tired, blame Hank for yauning, and also blame Will Compton for beer Olympics. For existing. Yeah.

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Yeah. Funny enough, we were going to do a Yack case race, and I invited Will, and he said yes, and then he bounced out of it.

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Oh, really? Yeah. He doesn't like traveling places to drink beer?

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Yeah. Funny enough, no, he said he had to go to T EU, which we would love to go to, but we have the dozen, which we have the dozen because of...Beer.

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Olympics being rescheduled. Yeah. Doesn't he have a dozen?

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Yeah, he said he's going to go and come back.

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He doesn't plan on winning.

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Their whole team doesn't plan on winning.

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He has a much shorter stop at the dozen.

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Yeah. Okay, Jake.

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I aggravated my arm a little bit. Don't ask how.

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How?

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Well, since you asked, I was lifting.

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Oh, sick.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah, but running some bio freeze on it and should be good to go for this weekend.Oh.

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Okay.what do you got planned this weekend? Golf. Nice. How much?

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Two, maybe three.

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You are getting low-key jaked. You're getting... I can see the muscles. You think? Yeah.

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Appreciate it. You're getting a little Jack there. Yeah. Working on it. Do you want to finish this off, Max, with your deli slice her?

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Yeah, no. I found my new hobby and my passion in life, which is deli slicing, but I may have to retire because cleaning it is a real bitch.

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This is like everyone always has a little flirtation with cooking, and then they forget the cleaning part.

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But this cleaning, you have to get a screwdriver to clean it. You have to... It's also I'm with Donnie, who's a professional, world-class cleaner of kitchen appliances.

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Why don't you just get an intern to clean it?

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That's an excellent point. Do I have the power to do that?

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Yes. That sounds like a medical emergency waiting to happen.

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I also cut two of my fingers.

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Make one of the interns be just in charge of cleaning it. Because I don't want to lose my slice meat because you don't want to clean something. Okay, good. The solution is make someone else clean it.

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Okay, good. No, this is great. But cleaning it is a huge issue. But the deli slice is great. I got PFT on the sixth today. How satisfying is it? Getting a nice hunk.

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It was nice.

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Getting a nice hunk of salami in there and just hearing the of the engine of the... See, you got the engine of the El Camino this week. I got the deli slice.

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Yeah, the deli slice, it's powerful. You feel good when you do it. You feel like a man cutting your own meat. I was saying that Max is our Jared from Subway. Yeah, he is. You got the pants. You got the big pants that you like to hold up for everybody.

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Hank looks like Shreke.

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That's true. He does like-Donkey. Max, why don't you just, to clean it, just get a big ass bar of soap and then just cut the soap like you're cutting the meat? Like meat gets stuck inside of the blade, so you have to take it all apart to get the meat and the plate.

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I don't know. If someone owns a deli and knows tricks to cleaning it, let me know. That'll do, donkey. It was a disaster trying to figure out how to clean this thing.

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You don't have to clean it every day, right?

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That's what I said. But then Donnie was giving me shit.

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Leaving some of the meat on it, add some reasoning to it.

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Donnie was giving me shit.

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Max, when am I going to get to cut a basketball?

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I think it'll ruin the thing.

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I told Max that we should actually- You wanted a We should cut a football and make a sandwich out of football. Yeah.

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When am I going to get to cut a basketball?

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I mean, whenever.

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It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter.

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How much would one of those things cost?

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It was like 500 bucks. Yeah. Honestly, it should pay for itself.

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Donnie was talking shit on the one that you got. Oh.

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He wants a French one? He wants a guillotine?

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No, he just said that he was like, Yeah, you just got a deli solution. That's impossible to clean.

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Oh, no.

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We could upgrade.

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What are you doing in my swamp?

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Listen. What the fuck was that?

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He's just doing track. He's just doing track lines.

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Hank tried to blame it on me. Hank does have so much nervous energy right now, and that is partially why he's putting on his little cape and his armor.

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I can't wait to be Mad Max this week. Oh, Mav Max.

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You should do You should dress up like Mad Max. You and Drake, elite company.

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Fine.

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What?

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Drake put a big bet on the maps.

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Drake and Jared from subway, probably good buddies, too.

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Jack Max, CFP, put a big bet on the Celtics, and that's honestly terrifying for me.

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Yeah, it should be.

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It is. I trust him more than most.

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Same. Always have.

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You talk shit. Disrespect, yeah. The way you just said that was disrespect.

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Yeah, you're doing it. You're being cheeky.

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I've always had that.

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Big Cat and I are the real-Correct.

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We will not eat the bugs.

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Yeah, we will not eat.

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I will not eat the bugs.

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You and Big Cat are elite glazers. I'll say that. We will never eat the bugs. Two of the top glazers in the world.

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I will not eat the bugs.

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Lucas is so fucking good, dude.

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I have a Celtic in seven. You're going to wear it? Yes. Thank you. Max, get your slacer. What? We're going to slice this. No. I don't want this ever to be worn again.

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Don't get.

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What are the lines of dialog from- That's it.

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That's all he's got. Ogres are like onions. That's bad.

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We have wires.

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That was good, Max.

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What are you doing in my swamp?

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Fiona.

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Wait, so what? Is it deli days once a week?

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Sure, whatever you want it to be.

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Yeah, meat day.

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We can do a different menu each week.

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I think we can get better bread.

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Yeah, the bread, that's- It sucked.

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Sorry, Pug. Pug did that. Sorry, Pug.

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We're going to Dramatos.

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How many times?

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Yeah, we literally work next to incredible Italian bakery.

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If you were to put Pug on the slice or how many slices do you think it would take to cut through all of Pug? Oh, good question. I think-Well, it depends how thin.

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175.

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Oh, you think that many?No.

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I could get them thinner. I could get them thinner.

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No, you could do thicker slices.

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No, I thought we were trying to get it as thin as possible.

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No, I'm saying what's the fastest you could cut through?

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We got to get the jerky from Polina. We got to cut that.

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How quickly do you think we should do a series like, Is it Cake? But could it slice? Will it slice? And episode one, Mr. Per.

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No. Well, that would be part of the shame list.

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The shame list, yeah.

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It'd be real Something happened to Mr. Per. It'd be a real shame if somebody ran Mr. Per through the meat slicing. Jesus. Real shame.

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Let's see if he can get Celtics and Oilers home.

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Yeah, that's true. That need to be an incredible- NHL, he was spot on. Got every series right. Right, Mimes?

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Except for one.

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Except for the one, yeah. Well.

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All right. We'll see everyone Monday. And by the way, we are going to stream game 2 on Sunday night as well. Oh, wait. Yeah. No, that made sense. Numbers. Ocho. 23. 56.

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18.

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77.

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99 put.

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21.

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Max, have you ever gotten this?

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No.

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We actually shouldn't let Max use a slicer until he gets this. Don't you think, PFT?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm going to take your slicing abilities away until you get this.

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Then you'll never have Deli Day.

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I can slice. I've gotten this.

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Deli Day is when you do your show.

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Okay, but I can do it whenever I want. I could do it at 10:00 in the morning.

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Click the button.

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47.

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Love you guys.