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Your team is so much better than the Mavs.

Yeah, they are. They are way better team. It's a team win.

Not even really close. So you're up to nothing right now. 92.6% of the time, the team that goes up to nothing in the NBA playoffs ends up closing it out. And in the NBA Finals, it is 86.1% of the time. So you guys are looking pretty good right now.

Where were you for the Drew holiday game? That was crazy because they basically. The broadcasting booth was like, the Celtics have the best backcourt. One of the best backcourts of all time with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and Drew Holiday and Derek White were incredible tonight. They have. Derek White is their fourth with a healthy, poor Zingis. Derek White is their fourth or fifth option. And he was like, imagine having that on your team. They're just such a good team.

One of the all time blocks in playoff history. I'm trying to think of some of the other chase down blocks that have occurred. Finals. That one. It really is the one that jumps to mind. Although you will have losers every time you talk about that block that will say, it was a foul. Yeah, just tune the haters out.

It might have been a foul, but who cares?

They didn't call it. They didn't call.

It was.

It was. Yeah. Drew holiday was out of his mind. Derek White was huge. Jason Tatum, I know he didn't shoot well, but he played an incredible all around game. Rebounding, assists. You know, who's one rebound away from a triple double.

He really wanted that rebound.

He's also being guarded in a way that, you know, I mean, like, he. I think if you could make any critique on Jason Tatum, it's weird that he's missing some of his layups, but everything else, like, he's. He's getting double teamed, he's making the right pass, and he, you know, like, his. The focus that they put on him opens up everyone else. And he had a great game, even though he didn't shoot well.

I have a fun stat for you, big cat, about Jason Tatum and his shooting woes. The Celtics in the playoffs, when Tatum shoots beneath 50% this year, there's six. No.

Yeah.

I think he realizes when he doesn't have his, you know, well, they've only lost two games.

It's true.

His a game.

He does a great job. Smile.

I'm trying to gas Hank up because I want. I want cockier Hank.

Does Jason Kidd go into the next press conference saying, drew holiday is their best player?

He's gonna have to. He's gonna have to do something. That was a smart move by him. That was.

It was.

It was basically like, we're already out of this. I need to just see the tank.

Yeah.

It was desperate because we're not gonna beat them, you know, straight up.

So set the table. If you. If you didn't hear Jason Kidd in a press conference said, yeah, Jalen Brown, he's a great player. He's their best player. And it was very much designed to get, I don't know, maybe like Tatum reaching for something or Jalen Brown, like, in his own head, he was trying to pull a move, like a psychology move, like Phil Jackson used to do. But it does feel like it's too early in the series to break out.

The big guns, and it also feels like it's three years too late.

Yeah, that's like narrative that they've been dealing with, right, for their entire tenure together.

And there was probably some truth to it a few years ago, but they've been through wars and they've. And, like, the maturity. I mean, you saw Jason Tatum, like, he did not shoot well tonight, but he still was super impactful. And, like, that's the difference in maturity. And, like, where they are as a team, they're just way better than Mavs. And then on the mav side, Kyrie Irving, that's. Luca can't do much more. That first half, he was out of control and he ran out of gas a little bit. And it was also smart. The Celtics basically, like, played him one on one for a long time. Then they're like, all right, now we're going to double him. No one's in, like, you know, in a feel for the game.

And they just attack him on defense every, on offense, every single possession.

But Kyrie, like, that's, that's the difference. Kyrie, you, you are supposed to be one of the best players on the court, and through two games, you have not. Like, when Luca comes out, Kyrie has to be the guy. And he hasn't been even close to the guy.

Oh, and twelve since he stomped on lucky.

Or do you feel that Kyrie is, though, kind of delivering on his promise to bring a championship to Boston? Cause he is. He kind of is like, the way he's playing.

Yeah, no, he's playing terrible. I mean, he's not shooting well. He's not, he wasn't even like a factor. It felt like for half the game, like he just disappeared.

He hasn't made a single three point shot yet. And so I think he's what, over eight from three right now? And he. Somebody needs to like, snap Kyrie out of this because we've been talking, we've been glazing Kyrie a lot these playoffs, talking about how mature he's gotten and how it's interesting how he's like, found a fit on a team and he's not causing a division. He needs to get weird with it. Kyrie needs to get back. Like, has Kyrie gotten too mature? Is a question we should be asking.

I do think I just could just be dumb, dumb sports fan take. But I do think there is something to the fact that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum played him one on one in practice all the time for years. And it's like that. They probably feel a lot more comfortable going up against him because they know his bag, right. He's you know, one of the best players in the world, but they've, they've been in those situations day in and day out. And, like, you can see when they play that they're not, doesn't matter who's guarding them. Like they're, they're ready to face, you.

Know, what they're really good at doing. I saw this from Tatum and from Jalen Brown tonight. They, they can time when Tyree, when Kyrie does the, like, almost fake spin and they poke their hand.

Yeah.

The backside as the ball is coming up. And it's like a very, very small window that you have to hit with them. But they both do have that timed out.

Yeah. I mean, the Celtics defense was, is been incredible. They can't, the role players for the Mavs can't get any of their shots off. Like, they, you know, Luca, they basically, like, luca's going to do what he does and we can live with that because no one else is going to be able to do anything because we can guard everyone else one on one and have no problem. And, like, every guy can play defense on their team. And Kyrie is just, yeah, I mean, he's just been completely shut down. He had, Luke had eight turnovers like that. Just, that's how good the Celtics defense has been. They're just a better team. Front to back, back to front. There's not the only thing, the only bad thing that happened tonight was poor Zingis. Looked like he got hurt again. And Max was celebrating before the podcast.

Yeah, we walked in and Max goes, oh, Pershing has got hurt. Let's go.

This is, that is.

We have. Let's play the audio. We have.

This is out of context. No, you're gaslighted. You're gas.

No, I'm genuine. I didn't have the cans on. I just heard everybody say, wow, Max just was celebrating. That. That's Kristop's got it.

I was not celebrating.

Let's go.

Me and memes do a very poor job of updating the hurter injured, injured board behind Hank. And I realized that we did not update it before this game. So I turned to Hank and to memes, I was like, oh, nice, Porzingis actually got hurt. So it's not out celebrating time.

That's not what you said, though. You said, oh, nice, porzingis got hurt again. Let's go, Shane.

Let's do a quote card. Oh, nice przingas again.

That was only because it was like.

Oh, don't forget the letter.

It was only because of the context. Of the hurt or injured. Injured board, because I forgot to update it. But it updated. It kind of updated.

We don't celebrate injuries on this podcast.

It's not an injury that was an injury that was legitimately just a.

You were happy that he was injured.

For the sake of that one thing. And, like, he's not really injured. Like, he's gonna play next game. It doesn't matter. You know, he's gonna play and he's gonna be fine.

Next.

Max, you know, you need to transition your brain to. Because this series, the Celtics just.

Yeah, no, this is over.

So you need. As a. As a Jason Tatum, just horribly. That's all I care.

He sucks.

You guys were sucking his dick. He sucked tonight.

I mean, he didn't.

Terrified.

He.

He was terrified to shoot the ball.

He's shooting has been. It was weird.

It's weird. He had open looks at the rim, and then he would just pass out every time.

It was weird.

We'd have like, what, twelve assists?

Yeah, but he. But there were times where he had the easier shot and he just didn't take it.

Okay, so, Max, what you need to transition to, because you are the biggest Hank hater on the podcast, which is actually. There is competition for that, and you. You take the cake.

Yeah.

Pft. And I do try to try to vie for that every now and then. It's like one of those Loki.

Loki memes is the biggest hang.

Oh, yeah, no, memes.

It's one of those interactive graphics where it shows like, you know, like followers year over year. Yeah. Like points leaders in, or home run leaders in the. In major league baseball. And it just, you know, every now and then it will be PFT. Or me, or memes will. Will pop up. But you stay up there. You. You never, you never, you never leave it for very long.

Well, I. Hank, such a dick to me.

Whenever my team would.

You need to be just fucking win.

Well, you. If they won, though, you need to be.

That's true, Hank. No, Hank would be. He's a very, very gracious friend. When your teams end up winning, you.

Need to root for a sweep, because Friday night would be game four, and we would have it basically be old news when we record on Sunday.

I mean, I. I don't care anymore.

Max, which would you be as a hater of, Hank? Which would you be rooting for? Harder. Christophs Przingus to be injured and out.

I don't want.

Wait, wait, let me finish the fucking question. Max.

The other Inc. Is loving this.

Okay? Or Lucas rib injury to be severe. Severe. And he can't play for the rest of the series. That way you can tell Hank that's a Mickey Mouse chance.

Like, you put it on. Well, I.

Forever.

I said that.

Yeah, he did.

I said that to me before.

Yeah. He said Luca was out.

Oh, my.

He wanted Luca to be out for your root, for injuries. Yeah. He wanted to be out for the red.

It doesn't matter who it is.

What do you have against Europeans?

Oh, that's.

Good point.

Slovenia.

Nothing. I just, like. I don't know. This is bullshit. This isn't even fun.

None of these guys are even italian.

Yeah.

Yeah. They're fake Italian.

Gallinari would. Would never.

Another fun fact about this. The Celtics team, Hank, they are now 13 and o on Sundays.

That is a very fun fact.

Crazy.

Game seven.

Game seven would be a Sunday. Yeah. It's not gonna get.

I don't think. I mean, if they don't win game, if the Mavs don't win game three. It's sweet, dad.

Agree.

I'd say that anything less than if it goes six games, that's a big disappointment. I wouldn't even give the Celtics a championship if they.

I mean, the Maz role players, like, they're. They're gonna. They live. Also gonna make shots. But the Celtics also like their bad shooting game. You. You knew they were gonna have one.

Yeah. And this was the one.

And they won, were they?

26% from three?

Yeah. And they even had Peyton Pritchard thrown in that half court shot.

That was huge.

Beautiful.

It was beautiful. I will agree with Max that. That Tatum. Yes, he had a great statistical game, and he did really well in terms of his passing, but he.

They're triple teaming, touches the ball, but.

They'Re putting a lot of focus on him.

He's taken. He's. He's passing up open shots. It's in his head.

13 assists.

He's thinking about it.

You said it yourself while we were watching the game. You're like, I don't know why he's not taking that.

I know it was a couple, but.

It'S not a problem, obviously, because you're someone.

You won by 15 points. It's not a problem.

Someone who thinks that Tatum is overrated by. Just by sitting next to Hank. When he said that Tatum was better than Luca. Ice, I. Tatum played well tonight. Like, he didn't shoot well, but he. The impact he had on the game was significant.

Yeah, but you can't say that. You watch that game and you like that. Looks like a guy who's like, wanted, and the game was quickly when he.

Was terrible, and then he just took over the fourth quarter, like, this year.

But if they take him out of that game, it's a completely different Celtics team because they can't. Like, he makes so much in. His rebounding is so good, and, like, there's just. There's so many more parts of the game. I agree that his shot looks off.

Yes. And that's all I'm saying. And it is.

More layups. His layups have not been going in like they usually do, but everything else he's done, he does is winning basketball.

Yeah.

Right.

Right now, he would be. If you were to rank your NBA Finals MVP's for the Celtics, what would he be? Fourth?

I don't know. Almost getting a triple double today. I mean, that. That would be fourth would seem. I. I mean, you can't do it after two games.

Pretty close. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's probably Jalen. I mean, would get some.

Yeah, Jim.

I mean, it's two games, so it's.

Like, shows how good there are as a full team.

Yeah. There's so many. There's so many guys on this team.

Brad Stevens should get the breadstick.

Lucky. Yeah, lucky should get MVP consideration.

Kyrie. Yeah, this is Kyrie. The Kyrie story arc. Just having, like, a renaissance this. This entire spring.

But you know what I'm saying?

Like, he.

When they talk to him about Boston, he sounds, like, very mature. Like, I love the city. Still a lot of people up there that I really care about. And, yeah, it didn't go the way we wanted, but, you know, sometimes things in life, it's, like, too much perspective. I want to hear, like, the Kyrie hatred.

Yeah.

Boston.

Yeah, I want. He's gotten. He's gotten too mature.

Yeah, I want him to get mature.

I mean, that's the.

I mean, what would you do if you. If you try to disrespect the entire city? And then when it was owing 13 against them since then, is it Owen 13?

Mm hmm.

Wow.

Tip my hat and say, they're my daddy. The old Pedro.

Damn. Owen 13. That's crazy. Luca is hurt as well, but I don't really know. He's. He's a all time hurt when he's missing shots. He did the big feeling good.

He just runs out of gas, too. Like, he was just out of.

He did the big Ben. He had his knee iced up. He had his ribs iced up. Did you see the big wrap that they put around his torso? It was. It was like something that you put on a stabbing victim. It was wild.

We need to. We need a flow chart. Luca hits incredible shot, and then it leads to talking shit to someone and sitting in the first ten rows. Luca misses shot. Oh, my God. Is he out for the series? Yeah, that's it.

Every single he got into with one of the Celtics owners, I think. Yeah, sitting in the front row, and they started John at it.

I did like the Celtics fan rubbing his belly during Lucas free throws. What. What's up with Luca and Jalen Brown? Just, like, being incredible offensive players and not being able to hit free throws.

Jill Brown hasn't been as bad in the finals, but it's weird.

It.

It makes. No, Luca makes even less.

Luca makes some of the most shots ever, and then he gets the free throw line, and it's like, what is going on?

You know how we're saying that some players should just take a couple steps back? Like, if you're goal and you're really good at shooting threes, shoot from the top of the key. What Lucas should do first, he should try to dunk a free throw. I think that is in the rules.

Yeah.

The second thing you should do is try to do a fade away.

Well, he actually just needs a. Maybe one of his teammates to just stand behind him.

Yeah.

Like, stand, like, because, you know that shot he makes where he gets a guy on his hip?

Yeah.

And he just makes that every single time. He needs a teammate to just stand on his hip, and he kind of can lean away from it and hit every time.

Maybe like, almost foul him.

Yeah. Right.

And then Luca can complain about getting fouled on a foul shot.

Foul shot. Yeah. I think we solved it, Hank. What? What? I mean, you're. You're. You're as happy as could be. You deserve it. I mean, you. Well, you don't deserve it.

No, I think I do.

You don't deserve it. Oh, I hate you.

I hate this smile. This is. This is me bringing. It's bringing me to Max's side very quickly. Seeing this little grin on your face.

Your happiness is deserved. You don't deserve it personally, but your happiness is.

Been a long time. It's been a long time. And it's not over. It's only two games.

Oh, come on.

Still got this work to be Cocky Hank.

There's just.

I'm done with Cocky Hank. I don't need him to be any more cocky.

Hay, what are you talking about? Like, yes, the Mavs could win a game. Yes, they could even win two games. They win the next two games, you still wouldn't be with that nervous.

Two games would be a little bit, depending on how they went. But, but no, yeah, you're right.

Like, the Celtics shot like shit tonight and they had that game in full control for the entire second half. The only time that the Mavs look like they were going to maybe win this game was when Luca was just hitting absolutely everything in the first half.

The role players have been non existent.

Not good. Not good. Well, they, they could have been in it if they called that foul on the chase down block.

Yeah. Max shoveling the batter. I don't know. I mean, he, I know he was hurt, but he doesn't want to shoot non Luca.

Guys were two for 17 from three tonight. Two for 17.

And that's one of those. Was Dante exum.

One of those with Dante exim. I thought we were going to have the Dante exam game.

Yeah, he was one for one. He was actually their best player tonight.

Beast.

He was.

Filled the whole team out of Dante.

He was a plus four. He actually was their only PJ Washington was plus two, but Dante Hexam was plus four. Led the. Led the team.

Or, I mean, minutes. Celtics going seven point favorites at home to two point dogs on the road.

I think that's just desperation. Like, they just, you know, you'd think that the Mavs going home, they have some pride. There's going to be an. But. I feel like tonight was the off night for the. Except for Drew holiday was. He was eleven for 14.

He was insane because Tatum was just giving it. Like, Tatum, so many open looks.

How stupid are the bucks?

So stupid.

Like, that's, that really is. And I know that the giannis got hurt in the playoffs, but still, like, how stupid? How stupid?

I mean, he's an elite defender and.

He has games like this where it's like, he doesn't have to be the number. He's never going to have to be the number one option on offense, but he has games where he can play like, the number one option.

And him and Porzingis have experience in their careers taking on more of a significant role. So when it, like, they have to step up, they're not, you know, gonna shy away from it. Be like, I'm.

Well, maybe not poor Zingis, but this.

He was the, I mean, he was the. He was right.

Right.

In New York.

This was his first. Yes. Last game. One was his first game out of the. After the first round.

No, I'm just saying as a team. As a player on a team.

Oh, yeah.

You know, you have to score 30 teams. Gonna win.

Clearly the guy.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That's true. Okay. Anything else? I mean, Hanky, you just.

Congrats, man.

Yeah.

Life is great.

Congrats.

It's really good.

Great for you.

Not. Nothing bad is gonna happen after this.

I gotta wait. Wednesday. But you got Brady day on Wednesday.

Yeah.

Mm hmm.

You're just.

You're gonna meet Brady.

You're doing the past and the future.

You're gonna.

One day. What a day for you.

How many minutes you think you're gonna get with Tom?

I have no idea. I don't know if we're gonna meet him, to be honest.

You're gonna go, what? You're gonna go celebrate? Guy won you six super bowls, and then at night watch, Max just took off his head.

Tom's probably gonna be like, hey, we watching the game tonight?

Put your headphones back on. You're the producer of this podcast, produce. He's pointing to memes. He's passing the ball. You just couldn't have me just say, that one. Set the stage. Your hank. That one.

I mean, Boston's. I fucking. It's bullshit.

Hank. Hank has his. He just can't. He cannot take that smile off his face.

I need the Phillies. When the world sees.

Yeah.

The Phillies were great today.

Now they will.

And they lost one game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Heartbreaking.

Big game.

Yeah.

London.

London. Sunday morning.

Lose the London nine game lead.

Celtics would never lose on a Sunday morning.

Haven't. Every single team that's lost a London game has not gone on to win the World Series.

It's a fact.

I think that's a fact.

That's a fact.

Right?

Getting doubled up on the London series.

You could say the same thing about any team that's won the London series.

What?

Has never gone on to win the World Series.

Yeah. Playing in the London series means you won't win.

The Mets are not gonna run away once you're out.

Could have just said, no. You're. You're out, though. You shouldn't play in the London.

Yeah, I. They're gonna lose to the.

Every time.

First round of the playoffs.

Every time.

Lose to who?

The Cubs. And it's gonna be the worst.

Cubs aren't making the playoffs, buddy.

They're. There's in it right now.

Dude, they stink.

The pitching is good, though.

Yeah, but they can't fucking hit for shit. Yeah, because the wild card, the stupid wild.

Make a move at the deadline.

Yeah, we'll make a move at the deadline.

It's a bullpen. Depth.

You're right.

That's my biggest nightmare. I keep thinking about it.

By the way, can we say real quick, just because we're on baseball, you're adding Cy young? Scuba cy young. Also bad sports town. Philly scuba Cy Young. He's been incredible. And that guy who gave me the tip when we did the cheesesteak pass out at Detroit, he just handed me a piece of paper, said, take scuba cy Young. Because I said, scooby Cy Young. And then I had multiple, I think it was two or three. Phillies fans reply, Ranger Suarez.

But that's.

It's really tough to not know that they give out two side.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That's tough.

Very tough. Very, very tough.

Well, I mean, Philly fans are. I mean, sometimes we're not the smartest.

People on the earth. This is one guy just being like, it's already locked up. Rangers were. It's like, buddy, I hope you're sitting down. They give two of these out every single year.

If Kyrie does the. I brought a championship to Boston. That's exactly what Bryce Harper did when he signed with the Phillies. I've been looking forward to bringing a championship to Washington, DC. Yeah, crazy, right?

He's fulfilling the prophecy.

All roads lead back to Harper.

Slide. Yesterday was so sick.

What's up with him?

We're done talking about baseball.

We were talking about. We were currently talking about baseball.

The city of Philadelphia has driven Bryce Harper to drink vodka in the dugout.

He doesn't drink.

I know. He's a Mormon. I think it's one of those, like, homer juice things where you do something good and they hand you, like, a fake bottle.

Hank, what's better, winning Banner 18 or just having to. Or being around Max and watching just the pain and torture going through his body at all times?

Banner 18. But it's. It's. You get the. You get the runoff forever, right? Whenever I see him, I'll get all the merch.

Oh, yeah.

Where.

Where would you rank this championship when the Celtics do win? Is that in your top ten of Boston championships? Yeah, top five.

It's up to. The Celtics are my favorite team as a Boston sports fan, so it must.

Be hard to have just one.

I was only. I was only a freshman when they won in high school. I wasn't fully developed. My frontal lobe is all the way there now.

Oh, it is?

Yeah.

That's news to us.

Really.

It'll be nice. Nice, nice as an adult, if they do win first Boston championship, that you.

Can truly remember Celtics.

Well, no, I remember the frontal lobe.

Your week is incredible.

Like you just blew tomorrow.

Yeah.

You have a golf day tomorrow, and then you just go straight.

Mandatory golf day.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's.

That's why he's running for so hard for holiday. Reminds him of vacation.

Mm hmm.

The truth.

Uh, yeah. Who came up with that one?

Fire.

Uh, okay.

Trust the process.

The Stanley cup final started. They did, and goalie Bob stood on his fucking head.

Unreal. Unreal. 32 shots, 32 saves.

Reminded me of Nick to Ranney when he made that save where he was coming across and did a cartwheel.

Wild move. He even had a save where maybe multiple saves without a stick. Yeah, he was just unconscious.

Yeah.

And I I feel like Edmonton might be the better team, but it doesn't matter.

Didn't matter that night. They, they outshot him. They were. They were, they looked like the better team, but it's just like, you have the better goalie, and goalie Bob was just insane. Not that Skinner played poorly, but it was, it was just an all time Stanley cup performance to shut them down. And we also got. Did you see chicklets?

Yep.

Got the Oilers fan the exclusive.

I heard she's dating Ray.

Yeah, I heard. So. I heard that as well.

Long distance was Ra. The guy in the, in the crowd tonight that was just grabbing his ribs at Luca. It looked like Ra, but it did. If it was Ra, he just be grabbing his liver like, oh, ah.

What do you say?

They asked Missoula Belforsing. Oh, we were talking about Hawk, and he said zero. He's good. I just want to update Max. So let me erase off of this board, hero.

He's good.

I know. I am happy. I am happy that he's in, that he's not injured.

Oh, right there.

Oh.

I'm happy that he's not injured. And it still works for the, for the board. So that all is. All is well. He's neither hurt nor injured.

Most panicking. All as well.

All is well.

Everything is.

Put Luke on there if you want, Hank. I know that works.

Do you see the video of him walking into the game tonight?

Yeah.

He had, like, his cup of coffee down on his side. He was, it looked like he shit himself. He was just doing the, the Chipotle walk down the aisle.

Yeah, he looked like he was going to get a flight after a long weekend in Vegas.

Yeah.

Like, this is. I have to. I have to reassess everything. But, yeah, the hockey game was, was incredible. Goalie Bob. We also had Mike McDaniels. I'm going to keep calling him Mike McDaniels. People get mad at me that, and I kind of enjoy it. Mike McDaniels got a playoff win because he banged the drum or whatever they do. What do they do?

Bang the drum.

What?

They bang the drum?

Yes.

In the crowd. Chance. Let's go, Panthers.

Yeah, they got a drum.

Oh, that's good.

Also.

Wait, does he have to update the, the meeting times now?

I don't know why he didn't have number 24 jersey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

24 just lives in his brain.

Yeah. But, uh. Yeah, the Panthers looked good, but, I mean, goalie Bob look good. Yeah, I just like saying goalie Bob. Yeah.

The peas. Look, they, they are going to be very, very tough to beat if gooly Bob does goalie Bob things.

We deserve at least one of these series to go, like, the distance or have some iconic moments. Just get, don't think it's gonna happen in the NBA Finals. Max Delente.

Just get us to the Olympics. Get us. Get us as close to the Olympics as possible. And then, then summers just on fast forward. And unfortunately, the big reason why we. I know you were really looking forward to cheering on our Olympic team.

Oh, yeah.

There was Caitlin Clark.

Yes.

Unfortunately, she's not gonna be on the team, so I guess we're not gonna be watching.

That was true.

It's just dumb.

It's.

It's not smart.

It's. Okay. So I have. I agree with you. It is dumb. You have a moment in time where everyone is, is tuned in to Caitlin Clark, and she is. I. Maybe since, like Tebow in terms of the takes that she. She is just.

She generates them. Yeah.

She didn't say anything, but she just generates takes because people are just angry all the time about Caitlin Clark.

And, and it's also, I'd say, kaepernick.

I think what it is.

That was the Kaepernick.

Remember? Kaepernick didn't. He wasn't playing.

Yeah.

Right. So it's kind of the same thing.

Well, he was. He was playing at the start.

No, but then, then he had the shoulder injury.

Most of his takes were after.

Right after he stopped playing. So it wasn't like new takes. It was the same Caitlin Clark. It's a new take, a new thing that has happened every single day. Yeah.

There's an industrial complex.

Right. They're not recycled takes. They're just, they're new ones about jumping around to each topic.

There should, there. There should be a different version of Twitter. That's just Caitlin Clark. Twitter.

Yeah.

Where it's like, okay, you want to argue about Caitlin Clark? Okay, go here. Don't make all of us read it all the time. And I think. I think there's a pretty big percentage of the reason why she's not on the team is just because they didn't want to deal with all the bullshit of people coming out with takes about Caitlin Clark every single day, which is.

The dumbest reason ever.

It's a dumb reason. Not. Not a good basketball reason.

The. It's. This happens in sports when it's. It probably will never happen just like this again, because you have a sport in WNBA that's not, like, super, super popular and mainstream, and then you have Caitlin Clark fans show up to it. So it's like there's a bunch of people who are Caitlin Clark fans, not WNBA fans, and then you get. It's almost like an earthquake of takes where the two tech talk. Tectonic. Tectonic, yeah. Plates hit each other, Max.

Or plates expert.

Yeah. Clean plate club.

That was crazy.

That was a crazy side swipe. But it's. It's incredible. She's. She's an industrial take complex that just keeps churning them off. The only thing I would say, hank and pft, I don't know if you agree with this. So dumb to not capitalize on her here. Extra dumb. If it was actually veterans on the team saying we didn't want to deal with her, because, again, this is like, if you're trying to grow the sport, this is going to grow the sport. Is it crazy to say, though, in a weird way, I think Caitlin Clark might have been a little bit relieved, because she probably wouldn't have played that much. And she. She finally gets a little bit of a break from the take machine, and she's been going. Going because, like, the WNBA, the way it works is they played the whole college season, and then she got drafted, like, two weeks later, then she's playing in the WNBA. I feel like this is. I would hate to be. You would hate to be the person on the team that's not getting any minutes and gets talked about more than everyone else.

Yeah, I think that there's a. Probably a good amount of her that's like, okay, I'm okay with not going strong playing. She wants a break. And I think that it's. It would be uncomfortable for. If she was over there and all of her teammates were getting asked questions about her as they're winning a gold medal. Yeah, that would be weird. Now, if you really want to see some fucking tape, top off this summer. This is. This is going to be good. This is going to be good for the Internet, just in general for Internet traffic. Brittany Griner gets all the minutes that Caitlin Clark was supposed to get. Then everyone's pissed off. Then the takes are going to keep going regardless of whether or not she's there.

And I.

Is there any chance they lose? Because that would be.

No, I don't.

Minus 1400.

Yeah. They haven't lost forever.

That would be take city.

The. Now, I don't even know. I. I'm not an expert on the roster.

Is.

Was there a person that was specifically you could point to and say that they shouldn't be on the team?

I'm not an expert in women's basketball. Maybe Diana Taurasi. I don't know. I don't know if she's still good, but I do know that this would be, I think, her 6th gold medal.

So she's getting crazy. Yeah. Right.

So she would get in and. And then I feel bad. For the first time my life, I felt bad for Christian Laetner today.

Yeah.

Because he cut. He started to get trending online because everybody was like, well, you. You can always bring the best college player. Like when we got Christian Leitner on the dream team.

Yeah.

And everyone, when Shaq was still.

Everyone said at the time it should have been Shaq. Yeah. The. It's. It's just interest.

There's a one player the year.

Yeah. There's a championship or a duke. Boy, shut up. Uh, fact, the. There is an interesting. I asked that question because there's an interesting dynamic going on. I don't know if she deserved to be on the team in terms of playing. Right. I know she deserves to be on the team in terms of, if you're trying to grow the sport, she should be on the team. But it is very funny to me. If she didn't. If you could make the argument that she didn't deserve to be on the team just by. Just from playing that there's a group of people who normally would be anti participation trophy now saying, put her on the team just because of who she is.

Also, USA Basketball, their goal isn't to get eyeballs just to win the gold medal. And that's.

Right.

That's pretty much it. So I don't know if it was, if it's players on the team or if it's the people that are in charge of the roster makeup, but I would not be surprised if they were just like, I don't want to deal with the Caitlyn Clark. Shit.

Yeah. They should be on the team, though, just because it would be good for the sport. But again, I honestly think that if you hit Caitlin Clark with true serum, she's like that. That's a little bit of a relief, because I. It would have been a whirlwind, and I wouldn't. If she. If she was on the team and playing, then it. Then it. Then, yeah, it makes sense. Like, she. She would want to be on the team, but if she's on the team and she's not getting any minutes, that would suck beyond belief.

What if she shows up once the WNBA kicks back in and she just, like, cuts her hair, dyes it? She's got, like, short blonde hair now.

You know what she should do? She's italian. If you have any amount of italian in you, you can get an italian passport. She should play for Team Italy.

That'd be very.

That would fucking rock.

What if she won?

She won and played for Team Italy. I don't know. They're in it. All right.

The twelve teams, they would.

They would let her in.

Yeah. This is just make an exception.

The second favorite is China at plus 2000.

We're gonna fuck China up.

If she became. If she became Chinese.

Yeah. Should we be rooting against the US? Just for the takes?

Well, yeah, for the show.

Right. She's a take machine. She's incredible. All right, other things we got to talk about. Let me see. I had a list. Is Dan Hurley gonna go to the Lakers? We're gonna find out today.

Yeah. Okay.

Make it a announcement today, one way.

Or the other, which. Which is gonna be. Because right now, Vegas has him going to the Lakers. I think he's plus 300 to stay at Yukon.

I think he is going to stay at UConn.

The fact that it's taken this long and that he made an announcement like, okay, I'm going to make my decision on Monday. It feels to me like it's going to be a hype video. Yeah, I'm back.

I'm back. And he's also going to get a crazy contract. And he can. Essentially, this is the course of Dan Hurley's career. He's going to stay, probably win another couple more, and then he's. He's. He's kind of told UConn fans, like, I do want to eventually go to the NBA. So when it. When it happens five, six years down the line, it won't hurt as much as it would have hurt right now.

This is a dream scenario for Dan Hurley. If he was just trying to get a raise?

Yeah.

Like, there's the way that the last three months have shaken out has been incredible. From the Kentucky job opening up to the LA Lakers job opening up, that's like the best one that he could ever have. Just drive up his value. So, of course, if he does go back to UConn and that's the plan all along, of course you're going to say, yeah, I'm very interested in this Lakers job. They made a very compelling offer to me. Knowing that your ad is back at home, like, shit, I got to double the check now.

Yeah. And think about the recruiting. When he can just be like, yeah, I turned on the Lakers because I love, I love UConn so much. Come win a national title.

He's an East coast guy.

He's going to take the next job in like five, six years.

That would not surprise me.

Yeah, like that. Why wouldn't you? If you, unless you think that. I definitely don't think Dan Hurley suffers from imposter syndrome, but you have to assume even if you don't win another national title, you're going to be in the mix every single year because winning national titles is hard. He will still get the pick of the litter when it comes to whatever job he wants. And if he wants the next job and he wants to stay close, not the Tibbs is in on the hot seat. But, you know, five years from now, it could be Dan Hurley.

It could happen.

Yeah.

I want him. I want him to stay. But also would be, it'd be very fun if you went to the NBA.

So, Hank, what do you think?

Lakers.

Oh, you think he's going to go? Yeah. Why? Any inside sources?

I don't have any inside sources. Billy football reported that he was going to the Lakers.

He texted the three of us on Saturday and said, I just found out. I ran into the hurley's in LA and I got inside source that he's going to the Lakers, which was basically.

I think he asked and one, like.

They made a face or, yeah, one.

Of them shushed him and then he said, means nothing. They probably like, Billy, we're having a conversation, please.

Billy must think he gets tips all the time from people that are just telling him to be quiet.

Yeah. Just looking at him. Yeah, King, like, stop.

Stop talking. He's like, oh, oh, I got something.

Yeah. So then he text us that and said, please do not share. I don't want anyone to know. And then Hank even said that before you could even read the text, Billy had tweeted saying, dan Hurley, the Lakers confirmed by me with a graphic me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He also has a 50 50 chance of getting it correct. And he's gonna be like, I reported.

It first if he's right, and then material change.

If not, anything crazy.

Yeah. But as Billy giveth, he taketh away. If he does get this one wrong, at least he got us. Vanny Woodhead.

Yeah, that's true.

Vanny would have now in our possession.

Yeah. Big time. Who's back? A lot of who's back. You couldn't. Yeah. You. Well, I could see it on Hank's face. He. Hank Hanks. Who's back is no different than. Than Steve Carell and anchorman. Whatever's in. In front of his face. Right before we start recording, is this who's back? He's gonna be like, who's back? The Washington commanders.

Correct. He would be right about that.

Max. Going or staying.

There's zero chance he goes to the late.

All right, well, you're doing this as an emotional hedge. This is smart. Very smart.

I said this. I think I said this to you. I said the exact same thing that PFt just said was, he's the hype video tomorrow is going to be a crazy. I'm not fucking leaving.

It might be the best hype video.

It's going to be. He's a man. He's the man of theater, and he's.

Very good at it.

He also. I love that he went to Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden last night or sat. Yes. Saturday night. Because you can basically play it. It's a choose your own adventure. Like, he loves. He loves being a northeast guy so much. This is the most northeast guy thing to do. He's staying or be like, he's saying goodbye to the Mecca and to Billy Joel.

Well, he did one last worry. His assistant.

Yeah, that would be very. I don't know what that means either.

It would be very funny if he did plan that out as, like, a goodbye to New York. He's like, I'm going to do one more Billy Joel concert. They'll know what that means.

Yeah.

My so long farewell.

Yeah, so he's. He's staying, Max?

Oh, yeah. Like, oh, yeah, there. He's. He's good. He's good. He's. He's good for the dramatics. He's. He's going to fucking make me very upset to be a villain of a basketball fan for a long time. And that's not changing tomorrow.

I just tweeted a poll. Who breaks the news? Wode shams Hurley himself for the field ooh.

I think. Whoa. Billy.

It would be Billy.

Yeah, no, that'll be her. I think video. That's going to be a hype video.

Yeah. But I think watch might get obedient. Beat the hype video by like three minutes. Yeah.

He probably has Hurley's hype video guy on retainer like that guy as he's, as he's producing the video is going to give Wilch a heads up.

Yeah. I think sleeper Rothstein will not have.

This was it may Fanta, maybe wake Fanta.

Could Fanta.

That'd be great.

For good. All right, let's do who's back the week so that we don't take anything else that Hank was going to talk about. Hank, look around the room. You find something? You got something?

I got some.

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Officially. And Max is officially in Coors light. Sell bit response be Korsbrew and company, Golden, Colorado. Hank, who's your. Who's back? Wait, wait, let me guess.

Should we guess shorts?

Scotty Sheffield. Yeah. Yeah, I got it. I know.

Shorts.

Oh, shorts.

Shorts are back.

Shorter back is a big, big shorts weekend.

I know. Scotty Scheffler's back.

Why?

He won the what? Fucking memorial by work day present shake, oprah ads.

Fuck work day.

Yeah.

Fuck work day.

Hank doesn't even know what a work day.

I'm a fan of workday.

That's like, you're. That's a hanky golf Sark day.

Yeah. Well, tomorrow is a golf work day.

Yeah.

He almost choked. I had bet him, and. And I figured it was the one time I bet him, he was somehow gonna choke more. Car charge late. He buried 18. He's won, I think, basically every tournament except for when he got arrested and when he had a baby, I think weeks. He's won seven or he's five out of. I think five out of seven.

How many, Jake? He's five of eight. I saw that he did have his.

Baby on him today.

Oh, he did? Yeah.

His baby was there.

Keeps that thing on him.

He keeps it on him. Yeah. You never know. You'd rather you want a good guy with a baby instead of a bad guy with baby.

Yeah. First one going into Pinehurst this week. Major week. It's kind of cool. We were there in the summer.

Five of eight. And the three, he didn't win two. T two's in a t eight.

Jesus Christ.

Saying his world.

What is it? What are his odds for 300? Oh, my God.

I think I saw something. It's. He's a bigger favorite than the Mavs are to win this series.

Geez.

There's 150 other people in this tournament.

He's that good. We're gonna have a US Open preview on Wednesday.

Oh, did you see Detective Gillis's pants made?

Yes.

They showed his pants there. It was, like, torn on his butt.

It was.

It still could have been that he shit and he shit so hard that he blew out his pants.

It was a horrific image.

Yeah.

See?

And his knee.

Those pants.

Imagine taking a shower after you get that.

He had. He had the very definition of a boo boo.

Yeah.

Like, if he went to a doctor, and they're like, we. I need you to diagnose me for the police file. After Scotty Scheffler dragged me with his car, the doctor would come back and be like, yes, sir. You have a grade one boo boo.

Would you like me to kiss it?

We could put a bandaid on it even though it's not bleeding.

Yeah. This boo boo to make you feel better.

Does us being a pioneer last summer do anything for you guys?

Oh, it does so much.

Oh, yeah. I mean, just.

We didn't play the course they're playing.

We were there.

We were.

We walked on a little bit.

If I had played the US Open course, I would be feeling. Yes, very. I saw it.

We were on the third fairway. Riggs's house.

Yeah. Didn't play it, though. Didn't walk on it.

All right, just a question.

It does a lot for me.

Does it do anything for you?

Sounds like it does a lot for you.

Cool. Pioneers. I was like. I was just a pioneer.

Not really, though.

Yeah, we played the wasn't.

It wasn't Pinehurst.

Yeah.

But we were in the pilot. Like, we're staying in the hotel.

The history, the staff, anytime you're around.

Yeah, it's cool.

Okay.

It's kind of like when you, like, fly into a city as a connection, you're like, have you ever been to x? And it's like, well, I've been in the airport. You haven't really been to that city, right?

Mm hmm.

Like, if they played the US Open on. On our basketball court, I'd be like, this is fucking sick. I know this course.

I'm excited. I'm excited just for golf.

I'm excited for golf, for the sport.

I don't know what the course is gonna look like. I is Pinehurst. Is it notoriously difficult?

Yeah.

Yeah, very difficult. All us opens.

Well, the last. I mean, Valhalla would just got its shit pushed.

That wasn't us open. Us open. They.

They make sure Marion was easy. I just know because it's close to where I'm from.

Okay.

They're known for the turtle shell greens, so pretty much.

It's a podcast, Mister Pear.

Yeah.

Use your hand. Use your. Yeah, use your. Use your words.

It's like a bowl. It's like an upside down bowl.

Yeah, it just makes it. It's just like a little.

Like a helmet.

That sounds difficult. Yeah, that sounds very difficult. I'm excited for the pines. No, mid pines is where they're playing.

Pines where we played.

Okay.

Pinehurst number two.

Piners number two. Then we played Pinehurst number one.

We played midpoint.

Oh, shit.

So we didn't even play the other course. That Pinehurst has had, like, seven.

Wait, so we. We didn't even play one of the seven?

No, we were supposed to.

Okay.

We basically played Pinehurst number eight.

We just were in. We were near Pinehurst.

We were at the hotel.

There was a pine tree.

Well, the hotel they're gonna be staying at.

Some guy. Yeah, some guys will definitely stay there.

Okay.

By the way, I was so wrong, Marion. It was a plus one. The winner.

Yeah. I mean, the US opens always like this. That's what they do. This is our week to root for the court. Yeah.

I am rooting hard. I want some. I want the winning score to be plus territory.

Yeah. And we need. We need one of our guys to win. Brooks. We.

Bryson. I think this is it for Bryson. If Bryson comes and wears. Remember he used to wear the scally cap?

Yeah.

Pain Stewart.

Mm hmm.

I could see it happening.

Oh.

As a call my shot right now.

As a homage to Payne Stewart.

Gonna bet him?

Yeah.

Hank tells me Bryson's back every week, though.

He's great.

He's great.

Hank would know. He's our live correspondent.

Yeah, it's true.

How do you do this?

It was a tough week for live, to be honest. The leaderboard was so bad.

Really?

How can it possibly be bad?

Because they only have so many top guys, and it was like Patrick Reed Brooks played. Okay.

But can I say, the guy who.

Won, it's like I never heard of my life.

Can I say something, too, about Liv? And I know your big live head genre got hurt. Something about getting hurt while wearing shorts.

It was sad when you're golfing. Me.

Yeah. It was just sad to watch. It just didn't feel like a real golf injury.

Well, I'd say just in general getting hurt while golfing.

He doesn't look good in shorts either. John Rom.

He's got. He's got a big body.

Right.

And the shorts don't really help.

Yeah.

Okay. Your who's back.

My who's back of the week is Vince young. Vince Young's back. Yeah, there was a celebrity pro am that was taking place on the golf channel, and they cut it down to do a walk and talk with Vince while he was on the course. So they talked to Vince about his. His championship at Texas, his rookie of the year in the NFL. What a great career he's had. What it's like playing golf at a pro am for the very first time. And it just wasn't Vince Young. It was another black guy. Yeah, it was a guy named Everett Sands, who's the assistant coach at the Citadel, and they thought he was Vince Young. And credit to Everett Sands, who handled it like a pro. He was just like, I think you have me confused somebody else. And they tried to answer the questions very diplomatically. He was like, you know, anytime you're out here playing golf, it's great because you're competing against yourself and against everybody else, just not answering her questions about Vince Young. So she probably thought he was being very rude and not answering any of the Vince Young questions, but turns out it just wasn't Vince Young.

And this guy didn't look a single thing like Vince Young, either. No, he was probably, like, 510, maybe like, 210. So, yeah, tough look. Tough look for the golf announcers out there.

It. I kind of like, though, just, you know, interviewing anyone. It's. Member that guy, the f one guy who's just going up to random celebrities. Miami. Yeah. Just got all of them wrong.

Or just asking Dana White, what's Joe Rogan's dream?

Yeah. Yeah. Shout out, stage steel. What do you got, Hank? We text some plans for. Are you gonna see Tiff?

She is. She is out on vacation, so she's not around Dallas this week. If it goes to game six, then yes.

With whom is she on vacation?

Her friends?

No. What kind of friends?

Guys or girl?

I don't know. I don't really want to put it all friends out there, to be honest, but I don't know. I don't know. I think just her friends.

Did she ask you?

No.

So game six would be on.

On.

So now we got a roof for.

Game six, and then that's when Max has to go down there and videotape everything, Hank.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Yes.

Everything. Everything needs you on Hank's hip.

Everything on that hip.

Now I'm rooting for a sweet.

Okay, my. Who's back is James Harden. James Harden. Very funny video. He was at a wedding, and it looked like his girlfriend caught the bouquet. And incredible catch. Like, it bounced off six people before it got to her and James Harden's reaction was so fucking funny when he just had it all hit him that that means that he needs to get engaged by law.

Mm hmm.

And I think it was just, it was basically a rolodex of all the strip clubs going through his brain in that moment. Like, I need to say goodbye to a lot of people.

James Harden, I hope he gets married because he would have the best bachelor party in the history. Bachelor parties. Yeah, it would be, it drop whatever you're doing and just try to show up in the same town as he's at.

Yeah, I, it actually would be very similar to the Olympics or the World cup. Strip clubs bidding for his bachelor party.

Yeah.

They would have to put out like, the offers and he, I would hope he would do it where he just do like an announcement video. I'm going here because I don't think.

I don't think I can name a bigger strip club guy than James Harden. I think he is like number one currently at least. But he would have. How many, how many strip clubs would he go to on a bachelor party? He would probably just live in one.

Yeah. I don't know if there is a bigger one. Future Jersey Jerry. Jersey Jerry did give some money to back in the day. He gave money to a stripper and she just took it, went back to Brazil. That did happen to him.

What a nice guy. If you give a stripper money, is there is like a binding contract that she has no. In the United States?

Of course not. But he thought maybe that was going to be the future and then it just wasn't. Yeah. But James Harden, my who's back the week big time. Who's back also just perfect that he's like, the NBA Finals are going on. That's, that's what we get from James Harden.

Yep. Oh, also talking tennis.

Yeah.

Alcatraz one. Alcatraz. Oh, I think Alcatraz is next.

He, he might be today.

You blew that third set and he just dominated form.

Is Carlos Alcatraz him?

Dude, do you see that video of him when he was twelve? Yeah. They asked him, what do you want? What his dream was like, gonna win Wimbledon, gonna win the Spanish Open.

Yeah.

Open. French French Open.

This is the French Open.

Is a french song. Clay, what's the, what's the Spanish Open? There isn't a Spanish open.

I don't think so.

It's just Rafa wins the French Open.

Correct.

If there is a Spanish open, Rafa has won that too.

Right? Spanish open.

So what does he want? A grand slam? Title on every surface.

Now, Alcatraz.

Alcatraz.

And he beat Zverev. Who is. Was gonna be next, huh?

Oh, maybe. Yeah.

But Carlos, he's.

He's for real.

Great position to be.

Great forehand. Great pack hand. Oh, great work.

Great serve.

Great serve.

Is this passing the torch?

Oh, great conditioning, I think.

Jake, look this up for me. When was the last time there was a french open final that didn't have Nadal, Federer or Djokovic in it?

Well, Nadal, it's like, never.

Except for, like, with those three. It's got. It's gotta be like, 15 years.

Might be even more.

You have to go all the way back to 2023.

Oh.

Oh, really?

Last year, Jokovich beat Caster.

No.

Very funny. Feels like. Yeah, I'm gonna keep moaning until you get a chance.

2009, Federer and Robin Soderling.

No, he said better. Yeah. Oh, said Federer.

Federated.

Dollar joke.

Oh, you guys are distracting me. Oh, four.

Oh, my God.

I gotta take a shit.

Gaston has to watch audio over Guillermo.

Coria, 2004. Who could forget? Hmm?

Oh, you guys have a hack to distract?

Yeah.

Yeah. Gotta come.

Okay, Jake, your who's back?

Don't say.

My who's backs. The College World Series.

Oh, ping.

We had some crazy storylines from the super regionals. The Florida Clemson game today was bonkers. A Clemson player got ejected for celebrating a home run. It's always weird, too, when in the super regionals, the host team has to play as the away team in game two because Florida hit a walk off on Clemson's field and sent them home, even though they're already home.

But that's a cool moment.

They weren't home.

Like a walk off. Silence the crowd. Game over. Yeah.

You get it, right?

Yeah.

You hit a buzzer beater on the road, you could kick a field goal, but, yeah, that was crazy.

My inning of the month goes to the Texas a amp m Oregon inning. Yeah, like, that was crazy. They were down. They were down four runs, I think, going into it, and then it was like, walk, walk, hit by pitch. Grand slam, walk, hit, hit by pitch, walk. It was crazy.

Cam Cantarella deserves his flowers. That was an unbelievable 9th inning by him. It sucks. At Clemson. Lost.

You've always been a college baseball guy. First and foremost.

You just lost. Italian. The.

The behind the pitcher camera went out in the 9th, 10th, and 11th inning.

Yes.

Which was insane.

Yeah.

Watching a game just from, like, an ESPN broadcast on the wide angle behind the plate was one of the more infuriating things I've ever watched.

It was torture.

It was so bad.

It's very hard to call balls and strikes with that.

You can't, you, you can't watch anything. You couldn't watch a thing. You were just like hoping to. You just heard what the umpire was saying, right?

It was so, so bad. But yeah, college baseball, it rocks. We got some games today, right?

Yeah, I believe there's a few game threes. One at Omaha.

Love it. All right, let's get to our interview with Greg Olson. Long time friend. I'm going to sneeze. Pft. You got some ads.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very good friend of the program, very special guest, Emmy award winner Greg Olson, who has teu coming up in a couple weeks. Uh, let's start with the. I want to talk about tight end university because we're a year. Whatever.

Five, four.

All right. We're year four. It's been incredible. We were there last year, but first we got to talk about this Emmy. You want an Emmy? Did you ever think you'd win an Emmy?

Speaker zero. You know, I I didn't. And, uh, you know, I actually humble brag amongst friends. Obviously, just between just the three of us and the 20 million people that watch this, um, I've actually won two now. Oh, yeah. So no big deal, but, yeah, so I didn't go to the ceremony last year, and so I always told myself, I'm like, you know, if I ever get nominated again, I'm gonna go. Last year was for, like, breakout, you know, breakout artists, you know, like, the equivalent of, like, we. No one knew who you were, and now we kind of know who you are. So we're gonna make that in any category. So it wasn't like a. It wasn't amongst with all the big boys, but this year, I was nominated with all the big ones, you know, Aikman and Collinsworth and guys that have been obviously doing this at a high level for a long time. So my wife and I went to New York and went to the event, had really low expectations about whether or not we were going to win or not, and was able to pull one away. It's incredible, this really cool teu background.

My emmys are actually behind me. No big deal.

Yeah, it's. It's incredible. They gave an Emmy for worse sport coat in a broadcast, and, like, that's. I knew you could win.

My God.

What?

Hold on. Yeah, put it on.

Go get it.

Hold on. No, no, no. Hold on. Even better.

Oh.

I literally almost called you from the Emmys. So, you know, like, they call the person who wins, and then there's, like, a little highlight reel. They show, like, a clip and a picture. When they showed all of the nominees, guess what still photo they used of me in the booth.

Yup.

That's incredible.

Worst coat ever. Wow.

I was wearing the sport coat. I literally laughed out loud. Like, the host is like, you know, Troy Aikman. There's like a picture of him next to Joe Buck, Greg Olson. And when they shot to me on the camera, the picture was me in that sport coat.

Wow. That's. That might be why you won. You left a lasting image with the, with the voting.

I feel like the voters have, like, a disconnect with mainstream America. You know, like, they.

Or am I a trendsetter?

Ah, no, I would not say trends.

How many announcers have you seen wearing that type of jacket since you wore it?

How many of those people have emmys?

Okay. I think a lot of them probably do.

Yeah.

I think they kind of give me to just about anybody.

Yeah.

Have you ever won an Emmy?

We have fake ones there. We bought them on Amazon for, like, $5, so they look pretty.

Understood.

Yeah.

Yeah. We were technically on tv long enough to get an Emmy.

Shortest show ever.

Yeah. We should have warned for. For. Yeah. Best one episode run.

Yeah.

It was a great episode, though.

It was.

It was pretty solid. But congratulations, Emmy award winning.

Appreciate it. I actually thought of you guys. You were in my heart that day at the award show because I knew when that, when that sparkle came on.

What was your speech like? Did you give an acceptance speech?

I did. So I actually, during the day, that day, you know, you do the whole, like, I didn't expect to win, but then everybody has an acceptance speech, which means you at least prepared for the fact that you were going to win. So I actually did write something in the notes of my phone, but so, like, there's no podium on the stage, so there's just like, a stick mic, like, on a big stand, but so you get up and you walk up on stage, you shake the guy's hand. He hands you the trophy, he hands you the envelope. Do I have that in one hand? And then I have my cell phone because I typed my, like, people I want to make sure I mention in my notes. So I'm holding my phone in one hand. My left hand's, like, full of envelopes and Trophy and just stuff, but there's nowhere to set anything down because there's no Podium. My phone turns off, like, the Screen goes black. So I'm, like, up there trying to do, like, face recognition, you know, to open my screen. So it was a complete Disaster. So I just made it up on the fly.

Everything that I had typed on my phone in the notes, I didn't get to say. Couldn't get my phone to unlock in real, you know, I panicked a little bit on stage.

They should have taken your emmy away right there. Yeah. There's prepared for the moment.

Also, there should be a category for best accidental telestrator penis drawn during a game.

Yeah.

Have you ever done that?

It's my biggest. It's my biggest fear.

Yeah. Yeah.

Booger used to. I think he was the goat at that. Booger drew some excellent songs.

That was a. I think some guys do it on purpose.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

Rg three. I could see him.

Yes. He absolutely does it. Yeah.

Rg three, love. Yeah. But, you know, like, it. It always starts when you go, like, all 22 and everybody wants to show the two high safeties.

Yeah, yeah.

The second you start by circling safety, if you do any, you have to clear that screen before anything else gets written. That's like. That is rule number one of telestrator. If you circle two objects, the next button is clear, because it doesn't matter. If you draw a straight line, a squiggly line, it looks like a dick.

We'll find it like a Rorschach at the time.

It looks like a dick.

That's a big month for you. You had two great television events. One was the Emmys, and then the second was the roast of Tom Brady, which must have been very fun for you to watch.

Mm hmm.

I was a little jealous I didn't get invited.

Yeah, you should have gotten invited. You and your Bledsoe could have had a really good talk.

Me and Bledsoe. Yeah, exactly. And Bledsoe could have had, like, a little moment there. Like, you know, we understand what it's like to lose our jobs. So I felt like we could have both kind of bonded over a glass of red wine and that, but I'll tell you, I didn't want to sit there. It's one thing for Brady to get paid a couple million bucks to get made fun. That was all in fun. But I thought everybody else on that stage was just, like, catching strays from all over town going in, I was like, man, that would have been cool. And then I was like, I'm thankful that I'm not up there. Who knows what they would have said about me. I would have started crying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gotta have thick skin, I think, though.

And obviously, you know, you wish that you were still on the number one broadcast. You've, you know, you said, it's like you're human. You're a competitive guy. I think you're in a great spot, though, Greg, because you proved it, that you're so good at it for a couple years there, did a super bowl that you now get in that spot where everyone's like, it's like the backup quarterback. Like, everyone's like, ooh, we want him. We want him. And you know it. In Chicago, especially, backup quarterbacks, always the most popular guy. I like the. You're the people's champ is basically what I'm saying.

Yeah, well, I appreciate that. And no, people have been super cool, and the support has been great. And listen, I. I've said it a million times. I haven't shied away from it. I understand why you go out and get Tom Brady, right? If there's anybody in the world that you understand the why, it doesn't mean, like, you love it doesn't mean you're not, like, disappointed, but you get it, right. It would take a very self unaware person to be like, why am I being replaced for Tom Brady? People be like, are you joking? Like, is that a serious question? So in one regard, like, I get. I get the why. I get why. It's enticing. So I understand the business model and everything going on for me personally. Like, I want to get back to call number one games. I want to get back to calling playoff games in front of 60 million. I want to call Super Bowls of 100 plus million. I want to call the only game on town at 425. That's the national kickoff with, you know, 95% of the country, you know, have that as their window. So, like, I want.

I love those games. I love those marquee games. So we'll see how it all shakes out. You know, there's not many of these jobs. There's not a lot of seats that call playoff games. There's not a lot of seats that call Super Bowls. There's only four. So, you know, that. That's the other issue, you know, with this line of work is, you know, a little bit patience is a big element to it because you can be as good as you want. People can like you, people could want you. But until a seat opens, you know, it's kind of out of your control.

Great answer. People's champ.

That's good. Yeah, we love you. We. And we said at the time, when you call the Super bowl, you gave Fox something to think about. Yeah, Tom Brady is Tom Brady. But at the end of the day, you've proven you can do it. And they at least had to have a conversation where it's like, I know we have Tom Brady. Like literally Tom Brady. But Greg's really fucking good.

Yeah.

And attractive and he's all natural. Yeah, all natural.

Yeah. You all natural.

Are you all natural?

All natural?

Yeah.

Yeah, he's all natural. Hairs real? Yeah, body's real. I got a shave.

Yeah.

Yeah. This is just pizza, hot dogs, couple beers, a couple of youth baseball and football practices during the day to get my sweat in. And what you see is what you get.

Yeah.

Man of the people. Tom Brady never did a rap song.

Greg has.

You just relate to all demographics.

Have you thought about that? How much money, nil money you would have made in college. It had to have been. It would have been insane, right?

Dude, I think I said so. My wife and I went to college together and, you know, she was my girlfriend for three of the four years that I was there and obviously saw everything. So I was like, could you imagine like when I would get my scholarship check in college, I would get like 1200 bucks a month and I lived in Miami. And your rent, when you moved off campus, you know, to rent with four other dudes or three other guys, you know, you're probably paying between five and $600 a month, you know, 1518 hundred dollar a month rent for a decent house there by campus. It was not cheap and, you know, 5600 would go to that. And then another hundred bucks in utility. So you had like $500 left. Over four $500 left over first week of college. First week of that month, man, we're eating that. You know, in our world, you're going for sushi, you're getting nice restaurants. By the end you're at like the dollar menu at wendy's, right? So I told her, I said, could you imagine if at any moment in college someone gave me $50,000, right, and some of these guys are making hundreds of thousands to a million.

I'm just talking. If you gave me 50 grand, 20 grand in college, I would have been the richest in my mind. I don't even know how I would have handled having that in my bank account. I'd have a $1200 in my bank account and I thought I was the richest guy on campus.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's true.

I personally could relate to that and say I would spend money on the dumbest things possible, maybe 50 grand.

A good 50,000 when you're, when you're like 20 years old in college is you're basically a billionaire.

I would get like seven jet skis.

It's crazy. Yeah.

Oh, and then, and now remember, you're in Miami.

Yeah.

I mean, you could go to clubs. You can go to bars. You. You know, you guys are driving. I remember it. Stupidest thing I ever bought in college. So good. A buddy of mine, I don't know where it originally came from, but he bought from someone else. Like, remember when people would change out their, like, face the screens of their radio?

Oh, yeah.

Change on your car plate of, like, the stock radio. Yeah, the car.

Yeah. You pick it out.

Like, the next thing was. Then the next phase was they would come out and flip up, and it was like an external screen.

Mm hmm.

You know I'm talking about.

Yeah, you. And you would. You would. You would take the screen with you or put it in your glove compartment because people would steal it. You would have to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like a fate. Yeah, exactly.

Right?

So. So this guy got. When one of the guys on the team got, he's like, hey, you want to buy this? I'm feeling good. It's summer. I probably got a scholarship check, like, the day before. I'm like, yeah, I need that in my truck. Like, $400 out the window. Because this guy sells me, like, this portable. Doesn't do anything other than just look sweet popping out of your dashboard. But if you gave me 50 grand, right, the equivalents to that stupid dollar 400 purchase, I can't even imagine what I would have bought.

Neon lighting under the car, the black lights, subwoofers.

That was big. That was big. Oh, so I had a subwoofer in college. I mean, in high school, I had a subwoofer, so that was. I thought I was cool.

Yeah.

But we all kind of went through that. That was, like, our era. That was, like our generation where what, you spent all your money on, like, fun things on your car that were. You look back on. We're like, that was really stupid.

I remember my. One of my car when I was like, may have been right out of college, had six cd changers, so. Six you could hold. And I was like, this is fucking. Like, I can listen to anything.

They'll never be able to.

Anything. Six different cds I can go to.

Oh, and you put them in your visor. And you could put them in your visor storage unit.

Yeah, yeah, that. That rocked. I got spinners for my. For my minivan at one point, spinning hubcaps. I felt like absolute gangster, but, yeah.

So just think, you had 50 grand in college, how nice your spinners would have been.

Yeah, it would been incredible saying, yeah. So tight end university, very excited for what you guys have planned this year. Will there be a class that somebody teaches on how to date the most famous woman in the world?

Yeah. So it's a really good question. So we actually had that presentation last year, and Travis. Travis was paying the most attention and seemed to have really taken that class to heart. But Trav's coming back. I'm looking forward to seeing him, making sure he hasn't changed. You guys saw it firsthand. It's a super cool event. The fact that it just started from me and kittle kind of texting and bullshitting after I retired back in 2021 and coming down saying, you know, come down and work out with some of the guys, and then it turned into 20 guys, 30 guys, and next thing you knew, we had a full on event that, you know, we now had. We had over 80, 85 guys last year. And, you know, obviously, we pay for everything, and we have unbelievable sponsors that allow, if you couldn't see all my plugs behind me. For any of you actually watching this, you know, obviously, charmin's our presenting sponsor because they love tight ends. You guys understand that? Oh, you see how that works?

Yeah.

You see how that works? Yeah. So charming. Bridgestone. We're doing a really cool, like, girls football camp, like a little flag football camp with Bridgestone and Levi's and Bud light. So they give us all, all the court, all the sponsorship money, allows us to bring all the guys in, put them up. You know, we do everything first class from how we feed them to. We bring in physical therapists and, you know, different pts and chiropractors and do different, you know, kind of medical different things and food parties. We have a concert this year that we're doing Tuesday night, which will be super cool. We have some really fun guests that we're excited to kind of keep a secret until the night of. So it's going to be, as you guys know, it's three days of a lot of fun. We get our work done during the day and, you know, the morning and during the day and then at night. Nashville is not a bad place for 80 tight ends to let it loose a little bit and have a little fun.

Yeah.

Is there a guy that. That showed up last year that took something that he learned at TEU and then went on and had a breakout career or breakout year afterwards?

Yeah. So I think it's been cool. Like, we. We typically always have, like, the young crop of incoming rookie. So two years ago as Kyle Pitts and last year, you know, Laporta and Dalton Kincaid, who were, you know, they were about to be rookies. They were between draft in their rookie season. So over the last two years, we've had those guys, you know, we'd love. You know, I got to actually go back and check. I'm not sure if bowers. We'd love him to come. I have to check on the list and see if he said he's coming or not, but it's really cool to see those young guys and then, you know, in front of them, a couple, you know, right in their same line when, you know, guys demonstrating the drill or running the route before them is Travis Kelsey and Darren Waller and, you know, George Kittle. And they're in a full sweat, and they're going full speed, 100 miles an hour. And then here are these guys saying, you know, one day, I want to be them. I want to be kiddo. I want to beat Kelsey. I want to date Taylor Swift.

Well, you better run full speed. You better practice. You better have the intensity. When no coaches are out here, you're not being judged. You're just trying to get better. Like, for those young guys to see how hard these veterans, these all pros, these guys that everyone just thinks, oh, they've always been the best just because they are, they don't realize how much goes into it. And I think it's very eye opening for the young guys to just see how much time and thought and effort is put in why these guys are having Pro bowl. And in some case, you know, hall of Fame type years.

If Brock Bowers does come, you got to give him a little tip to just never stand next to Gronk again, because Brock Bowers is an incredible tight end. He does not give off the same, like, aura as. As gronk in terms of just maybe it's the way it was when he was wearing those black shoes. He might need to do something with.

The hair cut that short. It was also a lot of us in the media. We started talking about Brock Bowers like he was baby Gronk.

Yeah.

And then when he's staying next to Gronk, he does look like baby Gronk.

No one should stand next to Gronk. That should just be a tip. At tight end, you just don't ever. Don't ever get a picture next to Gronk because people will be like, oh, this guy can't play tight end.

Yeah, Gronk. Yeah. If you. If you think every tight end out there looks like Gronk and his six 7265 and threaded and lean, that's not the reality. I can tell you that firsthand, coming from a guy who played 14 years and did not look like Bronk.

Yeah.

Yeah. You can't wear black cleats. That, that, that. We should actually. It's a really good idea. Along with date the most famous person, we should do a what? Like how to dress to look faster than you are. White. Like, tall white guys cannot wear black cleats in my opinion, unless you're just like an absolute freak.

Yeah, agree.

Black shoes with high white socks make you look slow. That's like, that's like 101. So white cleats, light color cleats, always make you look faster than you are. And for a lot of these six, five tight ends, that is good. That's really good advice.

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So, not to get like nerdy football, but I'm sure you've thought about this, and I'm wondering if you maybe are going to bring it up in tight end. Uh, but the banning of the hip drop tackle, I actually think that will help tight ends more than any other position. Because the basis of the hip drop tackle is when you have a guy who's way bigger than you and you're trying to slow his momentum momentum down and bring him down like undersized cornerback safeties trying to take a tight end down in space. Do you agree that the tight ends should benefit from no more hip drop tap tackles where it's just that much harder to bring these weird freaks where they're too much bigger than a lot of the secondary and they're, you know, they can take a linebacker. Do you think that's going to help tight ends?

Yeah, I mean, I can't tell you the amount of guys I've seen blow out their ankles, their knees, break their legs on the hit drop. And, you know, selfishly, when we were playing, you know, if it wasn't a rule, you know, it's like when they changed the rule that you couldn't hit defenseless receivers. When I came in the league, you could, and you better be in a real good place with your quarterback, and you better be really aware of where everybody is, and you got to be real smart or else you're going to run yourself and the ball or the ball is going to be thrown and get you in a lot of danger? When that got taken off the table, your fears go down, you're a little bit more free, you're a little bit more willing. It's easier because you don't have that in the back of your head, like, hey, I got to protect myself because, you know, this guy, he can kill you, but at least there's going to be a punishment to prevent him from killing you a second time. The same thing now with the hip drop tackle, but on the other side of that, now that I'm out of the game and I'm just, like, looking at it from both sides, I'm not exactly sure how they expect some of these guys to tackle.

Yeah, you know, I think you're going to have a lot of guys going low. I think you're going to have a lot of guys taking shots to the knees and the legs to try to kind of knife you down. You're not going to tackle Gronk and kittle and these guys up at their shoulder pads. You're just not. It's just physics are what they are. You know, you're, you're 205 and they're 265. It's just, it's not going to happen. So, yeah, I think these defenders, every year that these rules get put into place, it becomes harder to play defense. And I'm an offensive guy. I get that. I don't envy the position that they're in, but I do understand the idea is you don't want George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and, you know, gronk in his day, like, you don't want those guys getting knocked out of the game for those kind of tackles and putting them in harm's way. You want these guys on the field. Playing the league is better when our stars are healthy. So I get the rules that the method behind them and the idea behind them I understand. But I don't envy defensive players.

I think it is becoming more and more difficult every year to play defense, but that's the rules of the game. It's an offensive driven league. They want points, they want scoring, they want passing, and they want their best players to be healthy. They don't want injuries. They don't want to be the league where by the end of the year it looks like an infirmary. That's not good for anyone.

So I also think that this is.

Why they do it.

The hip drop tackle is a rule where the offense actually has a say in how they get hit. So they could bait themselves into getting hip drop tackled. If you see a guy coming towards you, just turn around, twerk real quick, just stick that ass out and then give that as the target and then boom, next thing you know, 15 yards easily. It's, it's going to be very, very challenging to officiate it, I think, and to determine whether or not it was intent for them to hit from the back and then drop down. I feel like this is going to be a rule that we're going to get very angry about in about three weeks of actual gameplay.

Yes, and the twerking part is an interesting, is an interesting angle. But I think what's inevitable is at some point there's going to be a critical drive that on third down they throw a drag route underneath. Short of a first down and some DB, your linebacker is going to grab him from behind. He's going to hip drop tackle him. He's just going to say, I got to get them on the ground and they're going to celebrate and all of a sudden the flag is going to come in, it's going to be a personal foul and the drive is going to be extended and they're going to go down to score and win the game. I mean, it's going to happen at some point that it's going to be a game altering. No different than how many drives have we seen in critical moments. Pass fall incomplete, and then that late flag come and it's a hit to the head, you know, defenseless receiver, automatic personal foul, first down and the drive continues. So it's going to happen. It's going to be controversy on Monday morning that a game is going to be viewed as being decided by, is the right, is it the right call?

Is it the wrong call? And then the next level is, is it the right rule or is it the wrong rule? There's like two. There's two levels to it. The interpretation of whether it's a foul or not is one. And then just on a bigger level, should this have even been a foul to begin with? Or should we just say, hey, get them on the ground however you can. This is big boy football. You know, I can make an argument both ways.

Yeah, yeah.

It's going to give fans an additional, like 3 seconds after every play to be like, wait, wait, wait. Maybe there's a flag. Maybe there's a flag that, like, moment of hope when you get bailed out by something. One thing that you guys do a great job of, you kind of undersell at TEU, is you have, you have great quarterbacks that come to throw balls and just hang out. So last year, I think there was, I know Josh was there. He was throwing some balls. Sam Darnold.

Yep.

I forget who else was there. Who, who's on your list of quarterbacks?

Trey Lance. Trey Lance was there. Zach Wilson was there. You said Josh, Sam. Yes. We've had some good quarterbacks over the years. I think a lot of those guys are coming back this year. And what I think is cool for, especially the young tight ends. And you see it with a guy like Kittle and Kelsey and some of these guys and gronk, with Brady in their day, the rapport and understanding that it's not what we want to do. We're the end of the equation, right. We want to get the ball thrown to us. And how do you do that? You got to be, you know, the quarterbacks got to be on the same page and, you know, all those cliches that we all hear. So it's cool. We would let. Hey, Josh Allen. Josh, tell them what you're looking for. What's good body language, what's good indicators like what is a friendly target in and out of the break look like and say, hey, the reason Kelsey gets a million balls thrown is because Mahomes knows exactly what he's going to do. He knows what every little head nod, every little mannerism, he knows what he's seeing.

And they're seeing the game through the same set of eyes. Like, I think for these young guys, it's not about what you want to run? It's not how you see the defense. You need to see it through the eyes of the quarterback. That's your responsibility. So let's hear what the quarterbacks have to say. Like, let's listen. When Josh Allen's telling you, this is what I'm looking for, you better listen. Like, this guy. This guy knows what he's doing. So I think that's not just an arm to throw the ball. You know, we can get anybody to do that. I think the perspective of a lot of these quarterbacks to share with tight ends, like, how the quarterback sees the game, is all that matters. It's our job to match how we see it with them.

Yeah, yeah. I want to give you credit, by the way. You went on Pat Bev and Roan show, and you said that the transition from sports to media is harder than people think. So I'm just going to. I read that, and all I took from it is it's really hard to be in the media and do the job that we do. So thank you for that.

Right? Yeah, you're welcome.

Yeah. Harder. That's real harder than being an athlete.

I think it's different, right? I think. I think any. And listen, you guys obviously do it at the. And I'm not just telling you this to kiss your ass. You guys know, obviously, you're really good, and thank you. The most popular thing out there.

Kiss my ass.

Yeah. Kiss my ass. Kiss my ass. No, I already wiped with Charmin, so you're good to go.

Well done.

Nice.

Well done. The charmin folks are gonna be thrilled.

Yes.

Very well done. You're a professional. I think the part that people don't realize, right, I mean, we were talking about it from the perspective of like, hey, you hang your cleats up, your shoes up, you're done playing, and everyone just assumes, all right, the most realistic thing is you either become a coach or you just all of a sudden get a microphone and you go tell everybody about what's happening. But on a global level, the media world, like, it's very hard in today's world. I mean, you guys do it on a daily basis to break through what's a very complicated media landscape, especially in the world of sports. Right? Like, what makes what you guys say any more interesting than the other 10,000 sports pods or just, you know, current events or just fun guys on the Internet, they're a dime a dozen, right? So it's. It's finding your alley, it's finding your voice. It's finding a way to cut through all of the noise that's out there and people go, of all the people I can choose with my time, of all the people that I can listen to, of all the podcasts I can listen to on the train into New York City or in my commute in Chicago or whatever, I get an hour of my morning.

I could pick from a million different places. I'm going to pick PMT or I'm going to pick Bev or whatever it is like to find that lane and to be the voice and the person that people look to and seek out. I'm curious what you think. I think people think that that's everybody. And the reality is it's not. There's a lot of really smart people that have interesting things to say. It's hard to find that voice to cut through in today's world where you can get information at every corner and most of it's bad.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're absolutely right. Like the competition is there, it's higher than it's ever been in the fact that there are so many options out there. That is also where I always come back to. And I hate when people, successful people, just completely minimize what luck had to do with their success because I think what you just described, and maybe our success is a lot of luck. We got very lucky the right time. When podcasting wasn't as big, when it was, there was that niche of like, where can we find a podcast that doesn't take sports too seriously? If you tried to replicate it today, it'd be a lot harder. So I, I always take a step back and, yeah, people like, oh, you're really tough. I, we got very lucky. We got very, very combo of luck.

And, and pissing your pants and eating horseshit on camera. Yeah, I think if you can get those three together in one place, that hits all the bases.

Yeah. And remember, and again, not to get like super cliche and like hang a bunch of banners in the weight room with fun sayings, but like, there is an element that yet luck, 100%. A lot of life is being right place, right time and having right situations unfold. But like, certain people tend to be lucky because they're constantly prepared, they're constantly ready for that moment. Then all of a sudden that right moment does flip, it clicks. Right. But how many people aren't prepared for those moments? Haven't put the work in, haven't studied the craft, haven't built their voice or whatever the industry is. And that moment came and they never even knew it. And it came and it went, and it was just. It was just, poof. It was gone in thin air. So, yeah, there's. You got to have people believe in you. You got to have people that give you opportunities. I mean, that was the case with me. I mean, it was 2017, and Fox was kind enough to ask me to call a three man booth with. With Kevin Burkhart and Charles Davis and, oh, yeah, Kevin Burkhart and I knew each other since I was 15 years old because he used to cover my high school football games as, like, a young aspiring journalist because he went to college in my hometown, and he worked for, like, the local AM radio station that did Friday night high school football.

So, yeah, I was very comfortable stepping into a live broadcast for the first time with a guy that I had known for ten years and knew him since I was a young kid in high school. Yeah, that. That was very lucky. It could have been anybody under the world. And maybe we don't have that rapport. Maybe it doesn't get a click that I get asked to come back and do it in 2019 again and then obviously go on to do it in my career. So, yeah, you're right. I mean, there's a lot of elements to all this that are outside of our control. All we can do is be good.

Success.

Be good.

Yeah. Yeah.

Be good.

Yeah. And also show up every day. That was. That was one thing we learned very quickly, is that if you. The consistency of delivering something to people is half the battle, because if you. If a lot of people want to start a podcast and then you don't do it at you, you update it, you know, once a week for a month, and then the next month comes, oh, I missed an episode. Okay. That. That I have in my mind every time. We don't really. I mean, we. We don't miss episodes, but even on, like, memorial Day, we did two episodes that we can set a three. It's sick. It's absolutely sick in my head. But I'm thinking we might have lost a couple. A couple listeners because there is a Wednesday where. Where we weren't there. That's sick. I need to go to therapy.

Feel that way. Yeah, but I need to go to therapy, remember? And it's. There's a lot of overlap between this success in any industry. Again, this is just one guy's opinion. I'm not exact. I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but success in any industry, there is an element that your greatest asset to being successful also is a greatest detriment. In your normal life, right. The obsessive nature of excelling and the excessive nature is, I can't take a pot off. Yes, I'm number one. I've been the most watched sports podcast for five years. You don't have to do any on Memorial Day, but the fear that you're living in a constant threat of, I don't want to be three. And the next year we miss and we go to five, is no different than what great players go through. You worry every single year. You've just made your 3rd, 4th Pro bowl. You've just signed your third contract extension, and the next morning you're like, I wonder if they're going to draft a tight end. If they draft the tight end, I'm going to fucking kill them. I'm going to be at otas, and I'm going to kill.

Like, that's what it takes. And that's not like a secret formula. Just very few people are willing to live their lives like that every single day. Because, as you said, it's sick. It's exhausting. It takes a toll on your life. But guess what? It's a really good formula for being successful.

Yeah.

Also, I just miss talking sports with the boys. If we don't have a show for a week, if we take our vacation in the summertime, stuff happens in sports. I'm like, damn, I really wish I was here to make fun of Hank for that.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe we're a little bit sick, but that's fine.

Oh, I know.

Sports with the boys is the best, man. That's what it's all about.

Yeah.

That's a great quote card. It really is. So you also touched on the NFL NBA debate that's engrossing America. So let me ask you, do you think it's easier for NFL analysts to transition to the NBA announcing or for NBA analysts to transition to NFL?

Good question. Really great. Thank you. The best question.

That might be the best question I've ever been asked. Ever been asked.

Holy.

Ever been?

Esco put in the trophy case, the ass kissing.

Oh, God, the Internet is gonna go bananas. All right, all right. Here's my honest answer. And the football people were not happy with my. I was on with Bev and Roan, and I said, like, maybe not 30. Austin Rivers might have been out over skis a little bit with 30, but for football people to not think that there's. I think the number we said there was, like, ten seems realistic. We could probably come up with ten names that could play in the NFL just on just their athletic freaking freak ism. I think an NFL broadcaster could broadcast an NBA game with more understanding and clarity than vice versa.

Okay.

I'd agree.

Offenses are too complicated. Defense is too complicated.

The NFL, you know, because you got. Cause remember, like, in football, every play is an individual story, right? It's not just like a constant evolve where, when, again, this is my lame in basketball understanding when I'm watching, you know, when JJ Reddicks, who I think is awesome when he's broadcasting the game, and I'm, like, genuinely listening to what he's saying because I think it's fun to learn and whatnot. He's not. Or the play by play guy is not saying, like, hey, downstream, flare screen, then they run an Iverson cut, and then they're going to backdoor pick and roll, high, low street. They're not really giving, like, the play by play. Exactly, because it's happening so fast right there. They're flowing from offense to defense, from transition to foul, inbounds, baseline, out of bounds.

They're.

They're flowing through so many different situations in real time that they're only diving into, like, the real, real specifics of a great baseline out of bounds or a great side out of bounds, or the strategy at the end of the game of who to foul, who to trap, how to get the ball out of their hand, really in just like, a handful of those moments. And I find that super fascinating to, like, sit and learn as just like, a basketball fan. In football, it's a start and stop, you know, 150 times, you know, 104. Each team, say, has the ball 70 times. There's 70 offensive plays, 70 defensive plays, and then flips. So there's just a million different plays that you have to be prepared to explain what the offensive line is doing, why they're sorting pass protection, why the receiver cut his route off. What's the difference between a two shell and a single high shell man leverage zone? Like, I just think there's more need and space to fill in more, like football lingo and talk that then there is maybe in a constant flowing basketball game that you could kind of fake it a little bit more.

Maybe I'm crazy and maybe the basketball guys are going to think I'm nuts, but that's. If I found myself in a basketball game, I think that would be my approach.

I think you'd be better than Reggie Miller.

I think the other part to this is that a lot of football players did play basketball. Not all basketball players played football, whereas I think there's more crossover in that. Maybe, maybe I'm way off. No.

And I think people are just more familiar with the sport of basketball because, you know, you go to any local, and again, I'm not saying what's going on at the white, let me just be very clear here. Before the NBA, people jump over my head here. I'm not suggesting that what's going on with the men's over 40 league at the YMCA in downtown Chicago is NBA basketball. I'm not, I'm just suggesting the fact that it's like golf, right? Like, it doesn't mean we could do it. It doesn't mean we're good at it. But people are more comfortable with playing golf in a tradition, just like a casual sense of exercise and fellowship and social than they are in like a competitive nature. If you're not, if you're not playing competitive tackle football, you're not playing football like you're not doing it on the weekends.

Right.

People are just more accustomed to basketball and they're playing it there. It's just, it's more, it's more accessible, familiar with the ins and outs of it because more people do it than they do play tackle football.

I'm going to push back real quick. A lot of people play Madden. Oh, a lot of people play Madden. And they understand outs. They understand, you know, whether you run a cover to cover three, I feel like more people play Madden.

I think that's a good counter. I think, I think that's a legitimate, I think you're right. I think the knowledge, especially of young people around football has grown because of how popular and how great Madden is. I, that's fair. I would love to know how many basketball guys. Like when. I'd be very curious to know, like do basketball guys play Madden or are they playing like two k?

I think Madden.

Yeah, I think they play Madden.

I think NBA jam was the last great basketball game. So that's so, so if you had a basketball guy, what, what?

Mac A is very, very, very popular.

Two k is very popular.

Max said, my kids, my kid, like in my house, obviously, Madden is a big deal. Like Madden. Our kids get it every year, who's on the COVID blah, blah, whatever. It's a big deal. We're a football, like for our whole lives, Madden was the thing. In my house, there is a ton of two k tournaments when my kids friends come over.

Yeah, we definitely dated ourselves with NBA jammies. That video game in like 1996, we'll cut that. It was a good video game, though.

Speaking of how iconic was it when you could get like those secret NBA jam players into the game, you unlock them.

Speaking of Madden, do you ever go back and watch John Madden highlights, like the best of his announcing? And do you take anything from how he would call a football game?

I never have. I mean, I've obviously seen a million highlights and watched that great documentary they did a couple of years ago on him and Madden, which was ironic that it was shortly right before he passed. He called. He actually called my first ever touchdown. When I was in Chicago, we played up in Green Bay on Sunday Night Football and I caught my first career touchdown pass and he was the Sunday Night Football announcer. And so I've heard that call over. I mean, I've heard his calls. I grew up with his voice. I mean, Madden, I think Madden 94 is the all time greatest video game ever made. That, like that was the, that was the Madden game. Like, I don't even know if I got 95 and 96. Like, it was Madden 94 and NHL 94. Like those were the two games that we wore out growing up. But his voice, video games, calling my games, just watching games on my life. I've heard a million of his calls. I've never really gone back and studied anybody. I don't really like it. I watch games now, you know, the Thursday night games and the Sunday night games when I'm home.

Monday Night Football when I'm home, I watch and listen to other announcers and, you know, you pick up little things about how they come in and out of breaks and how they use the telly and just different comments that you make. You go get really smart or. I don't know if I would have said that, like your is no different than when I was playing. I'd only watch the tight end. But I think you have to be careful going back and trying to like recreate the magic of a guy like John Madden because I just don't know if anybody can. And I think you put yourself in a position where you end up sounding stupid.

Yeah. Yeah, it's true. He is a legend. Legends. Legend.

When he would just say like boom or bam.

Yeah.

Sometimes something that simple just gets a point across.

Yeah. All right, so Greg, I had one last question. Rowback question rh rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase cuess, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, robecam. Promo code take they have swimsuits to its summertime. Last question and a little personal question, but how's TJ doing? Your son?

Oh, he's doing awesome. He actually yesterday or actually, today's the 6th. Two days ago Tuesday, he celebrated his three year heart anniversary of his transplant.

Incredible.

So super. So good timing on the question. And he's doing awesome, man. It's hard to believe he's been three years. So he was eight when he had his heart transplant, and he's eleven. He'll be twelve in the fall.

So that's awesome.

He's doing awesome. He's playing summer baseball and getting big and strong and running around. Yeah, he's. He's been through a lot, but these last three years have been the best. His. His life post transplant is remarkably better than his life was pre post. His first eight years of his life were a challenge. He. He had. He was ups and downs almost on a daily basis since his transplant. Knock on wood. I don't want to jinx it. His life is remarkably better. It's pretty. It's pretty incredible what. What they can do. I mean, they literally took his heart out and threw it in the garbage and just put a new one in and just say, like, all right, here we go. Let's start all over again.

Yeah.

You're just like, what? It's pretty crazy, but, yeah, I appreciate you asking. He's doing great.

That's awesome. Three years.

Great to hear.

Yeah.

One last, last question. Just, do you top fives? Can you do your top five tight ends in the NFL right now?

Right now current?

Yeah.

So Kittle and Kelsey, obviously, are the. They're the top two.

So you say that one's mine, kiddo. First, kiddo. One, I think.

I mean, it's hard, obviously, self just personally being buddies with them. It's hard to pick one I've set on record during games, and now I think Kelsey's, like, one or two more years of what he's done, you know, thousand yards. I know he came up a little short last year cause he didn't play the last game, but thousand yards, what he does in the postseason, if he wins another Super Bowl, I don't even think he has to win another Super bowl if he has that thousand yard ish production another year or two. I never thought this would be possible. I think Gonzalez, I always thought Gonzalez would kind of stand alone just from a production standpoint of what he was able to accomplish for so long. But I think Kelsey becomes the first one who enters into that. You know, maybe even more than like. I mean, Gronk was on that trajectory, maybe just didn't play long enough to, like, get those stats and get that production and longevity. But Kelsey's production and longevity is now getting into that like Tony Gonzalez era, which I don't think anyone thought was ever going to be duplicated.

So I think I'd have to go with Kelsey. Although he's asked to do a very different thing than kittle is. They're in complete polar opposites of the position from a scheme standpoint. But those guys are for sure the top two. I really like Sam Laporta in the Lions. I'm not saying he's three. I'm just gaming guys that are in my top five and I'd have to sort the order out. Who else? I've always loved Mark Andrews. I know he had a tough year. He was banged up last year. Who else? Give me some other. Throw out some other names. I'll tell you through my top five.

Colette, Kincaid.

They're close though. They're getting there.

Goddard. Hawkinson.

I like Goddard. I think Goddard, I think he's special. He's so damn big. Yeah, I would say Goddard's probably in my five. He doesn't get that like gross production that everyone else does, which I know everyone's obsessed with because, you know, he's got AJ Brown and Devontae Smith and they're going to take a lot of the targets and a lot of the yardage. But I think Goddard, when you like, watch him play run game, pass pro passing game. Yeah, he's, he's definitely a top five guy in my mind.

David N. Joku was incredible down the stretch.

He was awesome last year. I always thought Darren Waller, like Raiders Darren Waller before he got hurt in New York last year and everything, like pre injured Raiders, top of his game. Darren Waller I thought was a, he was sick and joku, fellow Miami guy, had an unbelievable year. That guy never has a shirt on. And if I didn't, if I looked like him, I don't think I would have a shirt on either.

Firemouth.

Fairmouth is good. Yeah, I don't top five is. That's, that's tall company. You know, you start getting with the likes of those names we just mentioned, that's tall company. But I think we're in like one of the greatest eras of tight ends in a long time, right? I think we got stars. And then we also have like a young generation of guys where it seems like every contending team has a tight end and if you don't have one, you're probably not a contending team. Like that's kind of what it feels like. And I think we're just going to see that tight end position just continue to become a bigger and bigger storyline. I think what's cool now for young kids in high school, when I came out, like, shocky was the cool tight end, right? He was just finishing up at Miami. He got drafted to the Giants. He was cool. He's at nightclubs. He was like a star. Star tight end, right? I mean, we had Gonzalez and Whitten and gates and those guys, Shannon Sharp, who are all timers, but, like, shock, he made the position, like, mainstream and fun in New York City, at least in my generation.

It was, it felt like that Kelsey and Kittle and, like, these guys now are stars. Not just amongst the tight ends, amongst any positions, you know? And I think it makes it a lot cooler and a lot more like, yeah, I'm willing. I'm a six four kid that's gotten too tall to play running back in high school or I'm too slow of a wide receiver, but I'm pretty long and can run. Like, it's cool to be a tight end now. And I think this. The position is benefiting from it.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. All right, Greg, tight end, you very excited to see what comes out of it. We love having you on. We love you also. Little spin zone. Now they're doing the two game on Fox. Maybe you'll be in Chicago a little bit more.

Dude, that a love. You got to find the positives. Hey, we get a couple. Get a couple Friday night, Saturday night dinners.

Yes.

Cocktails.

Yes. And it's probably only this year because we're going to be. We're going to be Super bowl. We might win the Super bowl this year, so then next year we'd be. But this year we got a chance.

Yeah, we'll just, we'll just take one year at a time. You never know what the future brings and because remember, it's all. It's about talking football with the boys.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

You guys should sell that. That should be a PMT shirt on the website.

Well, I would like to invite you to dude fest. We're in the works of putting it together, so you're more than invited to that. That would actually be nice.

That look like. What did. Tell me. Tell me what that entails, dudes.

Yeah, it should be a festival where dudes, no chicks allowed, just a bunch of dudes show up and then we have a stage and dudes can, like, ship. Like, we're gonna do a topless contest, but it's scars. So it's just like a bunch of dudes showing their scars and we like, rank them shit.

Like a bunch of guy. It's just like a bunch of guys being dudes.

Yeah. Like, you come up, you'd be like, hey, I got a presentation. And you come up and your presentation is literally just like an old jacked up clip. And then we all just cheer and we're like, fuck yes. Yeah.

Love it. I mean, talking football with the boys, that, yeah, that's the center of life. So that sounds right up my alley.

Yeah.

Maybe we do like one where it's just have a catch with Greg Olsen.

Yeah.

And just, you get to like five guys get to just throw a ball back.

Yeah. Mic'd up. We just see what they talk about. About. Yeah, I love that.

I don't hate that at all.

Okay. All right, well, Greg, you're the best.

Keep me posted.

We love you, man. Thank you so much.

I appreciate you guys. You're the best. Look forward to seeing you guys when I come to Chicago.

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Yeah, I forgot that that show existed.

Team black?

Is that what we're on?

That's what I'm on.

Well, I don't.

I need to be team black or Team Green.

I got to go.

Yeah. Who's green?

Green are the one that killed the kid in the dragon. Oh, by accident.

Okay.

I would think you'd be on Team Green. Bad sports town.

Oh. Oh, no, I'm not gonna support, you know, a cousin killing his cousin in his dragon.

Okay.

The uncle and the. And the niece. That's. That's still a thing, right?

Yeah. That's Damon.

Yeah.

And Raniera.

Yeah.

Mmm.

That's just targ stuff, though.

That's regular targ stuff. They just do targ stuff.

I didn't watch Game of Thrones, but I do watch House of the dragon, which is a weird thing.

They got to keep the bloodlines pure.

Wow. Okay. So you endorse it.

Sounds like an endorsement.

That's kind of creepy.

I don't endure. That's just how they roll. I'm just observing it also, Hank, is.

That how you think you spell my name?

No, he spelt it the way that. But you say it. Delente.

But the. The letters are still wrong.

Yeah, no, he knows.

I don't think he knows.

Yeah.

Hanks a great speller. His frontal lobe is perfect.

Get under your skin a little bit.

Yeah. And he did. He got under your skin a little bit.

I mean, he's. He didn't really have to try with that.

Memes. Mister pears been red hot two and. Oh, okay. Sounds great. I got him. I got him a new log.

But he's been good with hockey, right?

Could we talk about that? We've got to just gloss over Vanny Woodhead. Yeah, you kind of. You kind of.

You. Well, we've. We've known he was coming back. I feel like the big Vanny Woodhead moment was when we got that text message from Billy while we were live that day, and he was like, it still exists.

But that was so, like, I still. You know, if you asked me that day if we would ever see Vanny Woodhead again, I'd say no.

Right?

It looks awesome.

Yeah, it's here.

It looks from the outside, just like we left it on the inside. There's significantly more rat poop than there used to be there.

Yeah, it's. I'm excited. We're gonna pimp it out. We're gonna make it awesome. We're gonna do stuff with Vanny Woodhead. Vanny Woodhead's back. We should probably go try, like, pick a random game that we go to every year. Every year. That'd be sick. Like, I've talked to you guys about how badly I want to go to just one game at Fog Allen, a college basketball game that would rock if we hopped in Fannie Woodhead and just drove to Kansas. Like, that's what we should do.

Oh, we should go Tornado chasing in Kansas.

Yeah, we should.

Yeah. Twisters coming out this summer.

Max can be play the role Buddha Ben and Cry.

Yeah. That's cute.

Yeah. I'm excited. What do you want me say?

I'm excited.

Yeah.

Funniest.

Driving through Ohio, there were two tornadoes. We saw one of the funnel clouds. And I think Buddha Ben called his mom.

Yeah, he did. He called his mom on me.

Yeah. I do love Buddha Bend, though.

I do too. He's the best. I'm excited about Vanny. What had being back. It's more that, like I said, the moment that we found out that he was still alive was the crazy moment to me. Now, getting him back functional is a lot. It's gonna take a lot. You don't realize.

No, I do.

I don't think you do.

No.

As a car guy, there's a lot that goes into repairing a car.

Like, as someone who's very good friends of the car guy, I can concur.

Yeah.

I was working all day on the El Camino on Friday. I feel like I learned a lot. I popped the hood and then I stared at it and I started, I started pulling some of the wires and then. Well, I'll tell you why. Here's what my entire move was. Because I thought about this. Because I don't know shit about cars. I was thinking that if I'm working on a sick ass car on the side of the road, eventually a car guy is going to come by.

You're right.

And he's going to be like, what are you looking at there? Can I give you a hand? And then I'd be like, yes, actually, you can just do the entire thing right now. Yeah, I was hoping for that so badly. Didn't happen. A lot of babes, though. A lot of babes. Sweet ride.

So who's up and running first? Vanier. Sexy red.

Sexy red is not running for you, I think. You think that Vanny needs like new tires? Yeah.

Maybe vacuuming the insides a little.

You're thinking like you want to exhibit to walk.

We also new engine. Vanny needs new wiring. Vanny needs literally everything. It doesn't work, doesn't key it. It needs it again. Vanny needs everything. Which I'm very excited to get the process going and to see it get everything. But I also understand that this is going to be a very daunting task, because we, we agreed that we're doing it ourselves.

There's zero chance. Zero chance that it should do ourselves. Just watching YouTube videos.

Yeah, zero ourselves. You could buy an engine, I think.

Even if we, like, got an actual car guy to work on it. No chance it gets up and running by football season?

No. This is spring 25.

Yeah.

One year.

Yeah. One year from now, Vanny Woodhead is gonna be rockin I'm excited. What's your first step? Or are you just hoping I'll take the first step? Because this was the reason why Vanny was scrapped. The beginning was I was just paying the insurance every single month, and we weren't. It wasn't on the road. And it was. I was about to lose my license because it was just like, I don't want to, like, where is this car? So are you gonna be.

My first step is trying to make some. Some marketing and some sales, packaging so that we can get some money into Vany Woodhead that we can then spend on fixing it.

But I'm willing to put some of my own money too. But what is the first step? Why don't you. Oh, since this is a passion project for you, here's a good first step. Dunk. And you get $20,000 that you can put into Vanny Woodhead.

Yeah, it makes sense.

You will agree that if you dunk, you'll put that $20,000 into Vanny Woodhead.

No, no, I. Oh, wow.

So I guess you don't really love any wood.

What happens first? Vanny Woodhead gets driving or hank dunks?

If you loved Vanny will be up and running.

If you.

I four.

If you. If you. If you loved Vanny woodhead, you would pledge your money. I'll match.

Well, I'm paying for training, and I told donnie, I give money. I'm. The money that I get from this is. I'm still gonna be probably with taxes and stuff.

There's what? Taxes?

Well, you know.

Yes.

I mean, yes. Yeah, with taxes, yes.

Or I would have to pay taxes on.

Yeah, good point.

On cash?

I think so.

No.

Yeah, definitely. No. No, hank definitely would pay taxes for sure. Did you follow your taxes this year?

Yeah, but, I mean, I'm.

You were gonna pay taxes on us giving you cash?

I don't know how that shit works. They ask you what? Who asked you die, like, on your thing?

I guess they do.

They ask you like, you, have you received cash for dunking?

No. You don't have to cut this. This will give you 9999. You can do that as a gift, then.

Oh, true.

Yeah. So you're fine.

So we just made a dollar.

Yeah. So. Yeah.

Way to negotiate, hank.

All I know is that if I were the one who is gonna dunk and get $20,000, I would definitely put into vanity.

I would split it. I go half into Vanny Woodhead, then the other half to charity.

Yeah, but hanks not gonna do either, so he doesn't love the aws.

I'll put it. I don't care.

Oh, so you will pledge to Vanity Woodhead? Some. Yeah, why not?

All get, like, a. Those old dice cubes?

How much can we put you down for right now?

2000.

That's it. 2000. Let's bump that up. Let's get it. Let's get to five. Come on, come on. We can get you to five.

I'll do five.

What? I'll do five.

What is that?

Five.

What is that? Five.

Getting whatever Vanny would head.

You're not getting anything back from that. That's $5,000 to the van.

Yeah, can we. Can we count on you for five grand?

Yeah, but once we get money that goes into it, then I want. I want to get recouped.

Well, let's.

Let's. My initial. We need investment.

We need to. You got to spend money to make money. Ever heard?

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

All right, so we can count on you for a $5,000 pledge today?

Yeah, if I get a recruit.

Okay. All right, great. Oh, I can't promise the recoup. I just want the pledge.

All right, pledge, we'll get you a tote bag.

Great. Ten. We get ten. Why not 510?

You're in for five.

I got you to find so fast some old sales tricks right there.

Well, yes, I heard. Fucking two rich guys. It's hard to. Hard to say no.

Your rich guy, you drive an Audi.

This podcast, just rich guys, rich guy problems.

Guys talking ball. All right, let's finish up the show. Pug, I think you're in for the beer games. You can't hear me.

I'm ready to go.

Put me in, coach. I think we need to. I think that's got to be our place. We got to just, like, we stack the beer games. It's like, you guys.

You guys should go and then drop out. Day of, and have it just be pug and memes in your place.

Just get sick.

I'm down, but, like, still show big cat and PFT and all the graphics.

And then we should just drink beer anyways.

I hate that I'm such a good friend that I won't drop out, but I want to drop out.

I thought about dropping out. I did.

If you dropped out, it would. It would definitely help push me towards dropping out.

I've thought about it.

You could be the linchpin of dropping out.

I'll also drop out if. If you want me to.

No, I can't be the first to drop out in this room, because I promise will. But if all my boys drop out and we got to do the podcast.

Oh, no. Like, it's not alive for me to say. I am thinking about dropping out.

Okay.

I'm thinking when you.

When you've thought about it.

I'm currently thinking about it.

Yeah, I've been thinking about it. Constant.

Yeah. Big cat and PFT are both considering dropping out. The beer games and in real small font, what it would be like if.

We will keep getting mad at me because I said I don't want to go, but I'm gonna go. He's like, can you just stop saying you don't want to go? It's like. But I'm being honest. I do not want to do this, but I'm gonna. That's a. That's a great friend move. I don't want to, but I'm going to. Sometimes you got to do things you don't want to do. If, like Hank pledging $10,000 to Vanny Wood.

If James Harden invites us on the bachelor party. I'm not going to be your games, James.

You have. You have a chance to save us. All right, numbers.

818, 2056.

99. Pug. 21.

Oh, 62. Fuck it.

Why?

Why not?

Max, have you ever gotten this?

No.

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