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But for the record, I want to talk about football. I do, too. But, yeah, let's lead it off with the- I was thinking about it.

I was like, should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks? No, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that. I said the two of us because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great.

Well, I would say all three of us have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks if you include Joe Milton. That's true.

But we should talk about the Olympics in that USA game because it was fucking awesome. Steph Curry Curry is the man. He saved America. That was one of the most fun times I've had watching basketball. Steph Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games. He was 17 for 26 from 3, 60 points in the last two games. It was a three-point game with 2:58 left, and Steph was like, Fuck it. I'm just going to hit every shot. He had four threes. I yelped on that last one.

Yeah, People were screaming. It was insane. If you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you had a chance to go back. I always love to do that in college football season where you hear the home announcing team narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, This is impossible. What's happening? They kept calling them the Devil Curry. The Devil Curry just ended their dreams. There were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, What the fuck are you doing? At one point, he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was relatively open as far as KD goes. He just said, Fuck it. I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry because Steph can't miss right now. Shoots it over two guys. Kevin Durant-He said it was a bad shot, too. Well, Kevin Durant and LeBron were wide open for the three. Under no circumstance do you ever not give the ball to Kevin Durant or LeBron at the end of a game unless your name is Steph Curry. Somehow it went in, but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for Steph Curry.

I get it. I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years. I get it. I understand it. Steph Curry, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Braida.

It It was so good and so incredible. Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that. He said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in. All I saw was this is talking about the last shot. All I saw was the rim. I didn't see it was in front of me. I knew it was late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. That's how good he is. Steph Curry is so good that he impresses Steph Curry.

Yeah, they were really good. You know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared. They cared very deeply about it. Oh, dude. They cared. If any one of them told you, I just wanted to go over there and have fun. It didn't matter if I played, it didn't matter if they got me in the game, it didn't matter if I was in the rotation. They're lying. They wanted to be in there. They wanted to be playing. They wanted to do this, I guess, for the country, which is awesome to see because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, Yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition. We're going to crush the world. The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice, and play as a team if we want to win. To get a gold in that way, it was awesome.

It was awesome. They care, even their family cares, to the point of complaining publicly. Yeah. They care a lot.

And they flew in Draymon, which is the right move to do.

Draymon flew in just to troll Gober. He tweaked. He's like, What should I say? I'm sitting right behind him. But it It also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD, it was LeBron, it was Steph. Those were the three guys. Devin Booker was phenomenal, by the way. He was the unsung hero. He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. The three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way, because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title, but it It was just awesome to watch. Lebron was amazing, and KD was amazing, and Steph was just going off. Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was, but it was good that Anthony Davis is in there. I think he had four blocks.

The starting center, he had trouble defending against Wemby, who everybody else also has that problem defending against Wemby. The starting center looked slow. He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit.

Who was our starting center?

I'm not sure. Bam, right? Bam. No, No, it wasn't Bam.

Joel Embiid.

Oh, thank you, Uwe. Joel Embiid. Yeah. I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers, and it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time. Come on, Joe.

What the fuck, Joe? I knew it was not going well for Embiid when Max tweeted halfway through the game. He's like, Everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him. True. Yeah. He wanted to go back in time to the Serbia game.

I also love the way that Joel Embiid received his gold medal when the crowd was just booming the shit out because he chose to go with the US instead of France. He was just like, Yeah, give it to me.

He's a Philly guy. You think that bothers him? France cannot outbooh Joel Embiid.

Yeah, he had a quote going into it. He was like, Yeah, France is probably going to boo me, and I'm just going to tell him to suck it.

Yeah.

He hit him with the DS.

There's one guy who you can't boo Joel Embiid out of the building. He plays in Philadelphia. He also, watching the clips of everyone post-game and then the next day, just how hungover they all were. Actually, we have someone who basically won the US gold right here, Henry Lockwood. Looked like he parted with him. But Joel Embiid doesn't drink. So he was just side-eyeing everyone walking I think they were getting to the airport. It was just like everyone had glasses on, looked like shit, and Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight.

Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem. Yeah. Get out of his own head.

It was awesome. Now, there was two guys who maybe didn't a lot. Tyrese Hall-Burton, who handled it in a very funny way, saying when you get an A and you did none of the work. That's the way you have to handle it because you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team, and you did control in the fact that there were scrimages and all the weeks leading up to it.

You got to take pride in that shit. You got to take pride. No matter what level basketball player you're at. If you help the team, that's first and foremost. Right.

Then Hank, how did we feel? Jason Tatum He did get into the final. Felt like he got bullied minutes.

He got bullied?

He got bullied minutes. Kerr got bullied into putting him in the game.

Interesting.

Would you not agree?

I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem.

Well, there's eight less minutes.

Right, but you could still- Are you talking metric system?

The math- That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game.

Listen, the resume, no one really He knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics. At the end of the day, when you look back at his career, he's going to have two gold medals, at least.

Yeah. He said he would play in the 22. I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word. No. His mom did, fans did. That's one of those situations where it gets put on him that he's upset, and he probably was upset because everyone wants to play. But he wasn't upset. He wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything. Other people were saying things, and then it gets attributed to him, which is not fair.

But if you watch the games, the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior. We were dominating with that lineup. They were really-We barely played.

Our closing lineup was very good. Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end. It was just fun. It was fun to watch. Steph Curry is the fucking man.

Yaboo dunked on LeBron. That was great. Yaboo did.

He might have dunked his way back in the league. Skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like- Steph Curry won the MVP, right?

Yeah.

He said LeBron did win the MVP. Yeah, Skip was like, This is an indictment on LeBron's legacy. Just perfect spin zone.

That he won a fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold?

Yeah, and LeBron was... I mean, he got a triple double against Serbia, and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for the last two games.

He closed it out at the end of the last two games, and we wouldn't have had that come back against Serbia without him. We probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron, he did not lead the team in points per game. Steph did, but it was barely.

He led the team in rebounds and assists.

Rebounds and assists, and almost led the team in points. You could give it to any one of those guys. But I love the fact that he's going to find his angle. Skip Bales, by the way, doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's just doing this for the love of the game.

Yeah, and it would have been if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same video being like, LeBron didn't get the MVP, and this was his team, his Olympics. Also, shout out Serbia. Probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the Bronze medal game, went straight to the bar, and then came back for the medal ceremony, and they were shit housed. I love it. Jokić looked like he was going to puke at one point because guys were like, grabbing him. Then also there's a club, Jokić is already at the racetrack.

Yeah, of course. Jokić probably spent his entire Olympics watching Dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much.

That looked like they did it perfectly. I would much rather... This is why the debate, would you rather win Bronze or Silver? I'd rather win Bronze because then you don't have to live the rest of your life saying, I was so close.

I I would like to win Bronze if I lost the gold medal winner.

Yeah, but still, they had the best time yesterday. France didn't. France looked in front of the home crowd. They lose, and then all the Serbians show up drunk as fuck. There's also the stat continues that there's only three countries that have won a gold medal outside of US in men's basketball, and two of those three countries do not exist. It was a fun stat.

What countries were they? Argentina? Was that the one that does exist? Argentina does exist.

Soviet Union, Yugoslavia.

Okay, yeah.

If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem.

They'd be a real problem.

Because they would have Jokić and Luka.

They should be allowed to compete.

It would be fun. The only country that still exists that has won a gold other than US is Argentina.

Soviet Union would have KP.

Yeah, true.

There was no Russia in these Olympics, right?

For the most part. I guess not.

So is this Asterix?

We won the Olympics.

We did. Yeah. Congratulations. We did it.

We did it. We tied with China for most golds, and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us.

Is it silvers?

It's Silvers and bronzes. Oh, we won. Together?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we did it, guys.

Also, we were very close to not winning the total golds. I just wanted to shout out, I don't know who this person is, Iman Kylyf. That person stopped China from getting one extra Because if Iman came, now, what division were they competing? This was women's boxing.

Women's boxing. Okay. Shout out to her. Yeah.

She stopped. She beat a Chinese woman in the welterweight Championship.

She's my favorite woman in the world.

That's a funny wrinkle.

Let's go USA. Usa, all of the United States was rooting for whoever that boxer that you said. Yes.

They're all getting behind her.

It's really good that we won the medal count. I love that. I love just being able to say, Fuck you to the rest of the world. We still got it. I don't care. Well, what about the horses? Do we know where the horses were from?

No, I don't know. I don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place.

Because I feel like the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals in the equestrian events. We did have an awesome... I forget her name. Shit, what's her name? The female wrestler that suplexed the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped her on her head, basically broke her neck in the finals. They had to stop it. Are you US? Yeah, it was an awesome move. I forget who it was. Hell, yeah. But shout out to her because she's a fucking hausse.

Also, if we're to try to figure out how to make sure that we win the golds outright at LA. Well, first of all, I didn't even realize that the host country gets to add a sport. That's how breakdancing came in.

Shout out to Regan.

Yeah, Regan. The goat. Took the world by storm.

We watched some of the breaking on Friday here in the office. I was trying to live bet on it. I had no idea how the point system worked, but Regan, she's a hero. She's amazing. She was doing the Kangoo hop. She was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show.

The rest of the breakdancers had to be very upset at her because I watched some of the others and they were incredible. Like, spinning on their heads for minutes at a time. Then Ragon was just doing Elaine Venice dance.

She's a professor, and one of the things that she teaches is breakdancing. I would drop her class if I were in it.

She basically found a way to get a free trip to France and get a team uniform.

Yeah, credit to her. She was wearing an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome. I struggling to figure out what the rules were with breaking. I didn't know if there was a TKO. If you serve somebody so hard, they just stop the fight. That's too much. That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt. Like battle rap? Like battle rap should be in the LA game.

Ron being an Olympian would be sick.

I think it might be more of a sport than some of the sports that we saw. Definitely more of a sport than curling.

I think we're adding football. Is that what it is?

Like football, baseball.

Is baseball our sport?

Baseball should be back anyways.

We might not win that.

We might not win that. We should win football. Oh, we definitely win football. Remember, our team stinks.

No, but we're going to have NFL players.

Joe Burrow. Yeah. He said he wants to do it. Yeah.

I was looking at it. If we want to figure out a way to win it outright, China Now, I'm not saying that it's a Mickey Mouse gold, half of a title, whatever you want to call it. They won five ping-pong events and eight diving events. Seems a little...

How are there five ping-pong events?

I have no idea, but they won them all.

Because at the max, there should be four, right?

I think there's-Mens, women's, men's, doubles, women's doubles.

Mixed. Mixed doubles.

Mixed doubles. They swept it. They swept the board. I didn't like that. I didn't know there was eight diving.

That's too many diving.

Sweept the board on that.

Yeah, there's too many of the niche ones. There should be maximum four medals in table tennis. Now, maybe we got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000. That's what the US gives.

And a Job at Home Depot.

Other countries, no, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes, they They get their picture on a Weedies box. Congratulations. Here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Enjoy. Hong Kong and Singapore, they do the highest payouts. Hong Kong gives 768,000 dollars to their winner. Singapore gives 745,000 dollars. Then the Philippines gives a house a lot, a two bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies, and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken.

They should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for US, you never pay taxes.

Don't pay taxes. Also, you get to commit one felony.

Sure.

Get out of jail for your crime.

Not paying taxes.

Not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslutter.

Yeah.

I mean, Caitlin Jenner would probably still be walking amongst us.

Having everyone be like, Hey, I don't have to pay taxes again. That would be the greatest. She is still walking.

At least she's not driving. Driving.

Yeah. Driving is her issue.

Indonesia, in 2021, gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant.

Oh, Max. Wow. Yeah. Max, you need to get a passport.

We got to step our shit up. In South Korea, you get pensions. You get the lump sum, and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life. Yeah.

Instead, we have Noah Lyles, who's He's winning. He might be hater of the year. He might have to do that as a takey, hater of the year, because he was the one who, before the Olympics, said, You don't win a world championship if you win the NBA Championship. That's not the world. Everyone was like, That's weird. Whatever.

Hank, did you write that down?Takeys. Takeys.

Got it. Hank, write it down. What was it, Hank?

Hater of the Year. Who? Noah Lyles. Okay.

You got it? Yeah. Why don't you write it down? Because you did say that you did say this year You're going to be on top of it.

Max said he was going to be on top of it. Did I? No, I thought you said he was on top of it. No.

So are you giving away- I can be on top of it.

I can take this responsibility. You're going to take the lead back?

You already did. All right.

So who's going to back? Are you going to back him up? This could be on me. This could be on me.

Hank, are you going to back him up? I told Max to write it down, and then Max, for some reason, turned his mic on to tell Hank, but me and him are in charge.

Listen, Hank's playing hurt right now. I support Max.

No, that's on me. Will you be the backup?

Yeah. Okay.

Well, he'll be the third.

Means tell Max to write that down.

Yeah, I'll write that down. I'll write that down.

I feel like Hank could show some strong competition in Hater of the Year, too. Yeah, for sure. It's an award that I guarantee you he will be nominated for.

But Noah Lyles came out that He was upset because when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah. He was like, This guy hasn't even been to an NBA Finals. I I understand. Noah Lyles is basically like, I need to get my name out there, so be hater of the year, and people will talk about me. I think he knows what he's doing, and I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that running track every four years is as important as playing in the NBA.

He does.

Okay, so maybe he's that dumb.

This is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him. Okay.

He definitely got cut playing basketball, right? He's got some very deep-seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah. He's like, Why is track not the number one sport in America?

He was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. Every time he was on a fast break, he'd dribble it off his foot.

Yeah, Noah Lyles. A little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team? That would get you some nice publicity. People would talk about it. People would be like, Wow, could you imagine Noah Lyles running a go route? Now, you probably can't catch because you're this upset about Anthony Amborns, who's one of the best NBA players, but we'll deal with that later.

Yeah, he would be sick on the Chiefs. Flag football.

Flag football. There's no... No, Lyle's definitely, if you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it.

No.

That's the vibe I'm getting from his anger towards the NBA.

I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah.

He also overcame COVID to get the hater going. I like that. It was just better, and then he was just like, Now I got my hater back.

I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay. Swimming. Yeah. Male swimming in America. Oh, yeah. The French guy kicked our ass. French guy kicked her ass. Katie Ledecky, shout out to her. I think she's tied for the lead in gold medals.

Shout out all our women.

I think they dominated. They dominated. Our men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men? Is it, fellows, is it gay to swim?

Phelps might need to make a comeback. I actually think he could.

I think he'd probably do better than whatever these Jackasses were. But we only got one gold medal in male swimming. I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. I No, Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Probably.

No, probably. Wasn't Caleb Dressel? The big story was that he was watching House of Dragon too late one night. Yeah. So maybe we just got to take away TVs.

Yeah. If we put our best players, our best athletes into swimming, we would dominate, and we don't.

Listen, Olympics were fun. Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there.

Yeah, it was good. It was good to have on in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp.

And the basketball was awesome. The basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it, that was a dramatic game. I'm happy we won.

I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random, like anybody from the United States. It could get put on any team. We have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other average people in random sports that they've never practiced.

Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a barometer. To show how hard it is. If you're just like, Hey, here's the 100-metre dash, have just a random 35-year-old dude running it. We can be like, Oh, that's me. I suck. I lost by seven seconds.

I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards. Because I think most people, if you tried to do that motion, you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat. Yeah, pole vault. You just go straight sideways. I mean, all these.

Yeah, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see because we would quickly realize how much better they are. Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of you where it's like, That doesn't seem that hard. They all are very hard.

There should be eating in the Olympics, too.

Yeah, Joey Chesnut.

Joey, we should put that in for 2028.

That would have rocked.

Hot dog eating.

That would have rocked. You want to talk about football?

Yeah.

That was a fun weekend of football.

It was a great week. It's back.

It's preseason. I lasted longer than I ever could ever.

Oh, I didn't even try.

Yeah, I tried. An hour and a half, I lasted.

I didn't try. I saw all I needed to see.

People were impressed.

Yeah. So Big Cat, congratulations.

Congratulations to you as well.

How many Super Bowl do you think you're going to get?

Listen, I don't want to talk about Super Bowl. I just want to talk about the realization that I had. This is going to get clipped and people are going to say I'm stupid, and I'm doing it all over again. Watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world forever thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields were the guys because it looks so different. I know it's preseason. I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. He's confident, poised, reading the defense It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot. Yeah, I lasted an hour and a half, and then I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back.

Yeah, as you should, because my own experience watching Jaden on Saturday- That one throw he had. It was so sick. Then Big Head, when I found out that he audibled into that play, oh, my God, I covered my entire basement. I got stalagmite stripping from the ceiling now. Gross. I don't want to say never. He reminds me of RG3 in the RG3 Good Times. It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback that for longer than 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy and know this is the guy.

But Bickette, he's so fucking-I know. I agree.

His football is so good. He's so fast.

I I agree.

And he looks good in the uniform. It's awesome.

I mean, you said RG3. The screen dump off that Caleb Williams made when the guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play. Yeah. That looked like Patrick Holmes. Yeah. I don't… But these are just… We should have prefaced this segment with this is a safe space. We're just talking two guys having fun talking. None of this is… We're not putting this on you, anyone. This is not what we're saying is to happen. We're just saying what we saw in a preseason game.

What I saw. Sicos. What I saw in preseason week one.

Preseason week one. Was week two for the bears. But Caleb Williams didn't play week one.

The excitement of having a team that has a quarterback. It's like we're fans of different sports this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different. Deep. Sundays are different this year.

Being third and long, we could maybe still get this. Yeah. Hank, did you feel the same way?

About Joe Milton?

Yeah. Actually, I made a list. I made a ranking. Should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure. Number one, I had Joe Milton because Joe Milton is fucking awesome.

You had the boys fired up.

Yeah, boys on the side.

I also wanted to be watching us on what we were doing, Coach Doug, so I pretty much watched the whole game, and you could tell coming off the sidelines, the team was rallying. It's already a QB controversy. The team was rallying behind him.

We'll see. I think so. We are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience.

This would be so mean, though, if Joe Milton did to Bayly Zappie what Bayly Zappie did to Matt Jones.

Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make.

They have four QBs, three spots. Yeah. This segment is also- Milton tough. We're pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah, no. That guy, how did That guy lasts until the sixth round. That guy should have been top 10.

Patriots get a sixth round steal.

History repeats itself. Yeah. Number 2, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair. I wanted to be fair. Joe Milton, obviously, number 1. Caleb, Jaden, number 2. Jj, J. J. Harrington, number 3. J. J. Harrington? No, sorry. J. J. Mccarthy? Mccarthy, yeah. Viking, number 3.

Second defense.

Second defense. Where did Harrington come from? I don't know. There's a player named J. J. Harrington. Lavar, Harrington. Number 4, Bo Bo'Nicks. Bo'nicks look good.

This might be the season.

Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks-It all together. I feel like he's-J.

J. Harrington was a running back for Cal.

Yeah. Bo Nicks, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year. I think he's going to be good. Five, Spencer Rattler. Spencer looked good.

He plays for?

He plays for an NFL team. But I looked up his stats and they were good. Number six, Michael Pennix. Then number seven, I had Drake May. It's a pretty good class.

And sets He got it.

Technically a rookie, yeah. Technically a rookie, because he sat out. He bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception.

Game-winning drive. Yeah. Anthony Richardson, also a rookie.

Kind of, yeah.

It was fun I'm very excited. I'm going to let myself... I really did. I tried so hard, PFT. I was like, I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy. I was basically the meme, the kid in class holding everything in. I was just for an hour, I was watching the bears, and I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy shit. This has got to be different. I got to act differently. Then I just lost it and just busted everywhere.

He looked really good. He looked very good.

So did Jaden.

I'll tell you what, if I was- This is going to be the worst clip ever. I don't care. Make no mistake, I'm ready to be hurt again. I am. I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while.

Markel Fultz was so good in Summer League.

Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point.What.

The fuck? That's a good point.

I'm just saying.

What the fuck? That's a fair point.

Max, I want to say I am not ready to get hurt again. Oh, I am. I am not. I've been hurt too many times, too recently. I feel like if we played the Justin field His first preseason. I am not ready to get hurt again. Yes, that's why I'm not ready to get hurt again.

The exact same thing that you just said.

But I just told you, Hank, I watched Kael Williams play.

Never thought, Mitch. I saw Justin, I knew Mitch wasn't a... I'm not ready to get hurt.

I'm not ready to get hurt again. I'm not mentally physically in a space where I could take the hurt again, it will kill me. It will kill me. This would be the last hurt of my life.

Max, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want Joe Milton.

Good answer. He's got a rocket arm.

Stud.

Threw an orange 106 yards.

I was thinking about it. I think I would want the Patriots to be the best.

Why?

Because I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around Hank and good teams. It's the devil you know. It's the devil I know. I don't know how I-That makes sense.

On what planet would we be worse? No, that's a fair We can't be worse than this guy. That's not true. He's drunk during a show right now because- That's also not true.

But I already hate Hank. I don't want to hate you guys.

You want to take a breathalizer? You pass a breathalizer right now? Yeah.

We should get a breathalizer. I doubt it.

I actually understand what you're saying, Max, because I don't know what I'm capable of. It's scary to think of what I could be capable of if Keel Williams was incredible, I might be a monster.

Yeah, it would be cool if Chicago was buzzing for the bears. That would be fun.

Yeah, we need the hopes to get up. I want both you guys to make the play.

You're always doing it that way. Good. You never-Thank you, Hank.

He wants us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank.

It was just preseason week one.

It was. We might be a year out, but Jaden got it.

C. J. Strah was really good in the preseason last year.

I think more than anything, it's just the ups and downs I have to figure out how to deal with better. It's the ups and downs.

Well, We haven't been here before.

I'm like a drive-by-drive guy, and I need to figure out how to be-We've both been here very recently. I need to figure out a month.

You had RG3.

Very recently. That was twelve years ago.

You had Sam Howell.

It last is like- Sam Howell, he did say was a guy. I was talking soupy after two weeks last year. Yes. That was twelve years ago, Hank, and we had maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy.

Sam Howell was so good against the Eagles in that one game. He was. It was incredible.

He gets had twice since the podcast has existed.

That's why I'm not ready to get heard again.

It's It's becoming all too familiar. We haven't been here before. Yes, you have.

No, I haven't. Not since RG3. Second pick overall.

I know this sickos. Croissant. Although, deep down, I feel like Packer's fans might actually think they're a little worried. Although Jordan Love looks good. But I think they're a little worried.

The RG3 croissant picture was so funny. Very, very funny. He was always horny. He was deep-throating that thing.

Yeah, deep-throating it. Greta was not.

Yeah. Rg3, he had that past the gag reflex.

She was not in on the same joke that he was doing.

I don't think it was a joke.

Yeah, I don't think so either.

He just loves croissant.

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Who's back in the week is Jameis Winston. We're going to do same faces, new places.

I think we'll do that Wednesday now.

Soon, but Jaymus on the Browns is a match made in heaven. He had a very funny pregame speech. Go ahead, man. Getting the boys fired up.

Tell us what he said in the pregame. Reenact the pregame speech. Get us fired up. What do you mean? Come on, do it. Get us fired up. Pretend that you're- Where are my dogs at?

Okay. That was good.

Yeah, we're about to do a podcast.

He said, I'm going to spell D-A-W-G-S, and I'm going to go, Who, who, who, who, who. Okay.

So you do it.

Do it for us, for the podcast.

Give me a D.

D.

Give me a A.

A.

Give me a W.

W.

Give me a G. G. Give me an S. S. Where my dog's at?

Right here.

James did it better.

Yeah. I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were. If you were Deshawn Watson, you saw that you'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course. James is the best. He's got a captive audience. Everyone hanging on every word that he says.

At bare minimum, if Deshawn Watson has an MVP type year, even with an MVP-type year, the rest of the locker room likes James more. No matter what, you have a backup quarterback that is liked more.

The whole building likes James more. Correct. He doesn't have all that baggage that Deshawn has with the history.

Correct. Facts. Good who's back. Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw? No.

That's a good Who's Back, Hank. It's a great Who's Back.

Thank you. Way to do your job.

Thank you.

He's back.

He is.

I thought your Who's Back was going to be elevators.

No, no elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator. Oh, to tell. We were just going down. We had too many people in the elevator. Was Max in it? Max was not in it.

I was not in it. That was a bullshit question. I was not in the elevator. I'm just asking a question. I got down I got down safely.

Wait, so how many people did you get in the elevator?

It was probably like 15. I think it's like a 2000 weight limit. We had a couple.

No Max.

A couple of big boys, a couple of football players, former football players, quigs, Whoa, whoa, whoa, Hank.

Quig is allowed to get fucking shots.

Hank, you were in there, too.

I was in there, and I was like, Oh, yeah, we're good. Let's just squeeze on. Then we got to the first floor, and then you just felt it go even lower.

Wait, you got down to the first floor?

Got down to the first floor, and then it dropped.

Oh, you sank too low.

They had to open the door. It took 10, 15 minutes, and then we had to basically climb out onto the first floor.

Was that a Thriison crop elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis. I don't know what type of elevator it was.Otis would never malfunction like that. Hank, answer me this. Had you been drinking alcohol before this? Yes. Okay. I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator with 15 people that had been drinking-Not max.not max. Somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right?

No, it hadn't got to that point. Everyone was pretty chilled. No one was freaking out. We were squeezing pretty tight. It was a nightmare. It was good. It was good vibes. I think if it went another 10 minutes, then some people might have been claustrophobic or had to pee, but it wasn't too bad.

I'm so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator.

Did you get some tunes going?

I was playing some music.

What's good elevator music?

Billy Strings. Yeah, you're obsessed with Billy Strings. Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played. So I just press play. Kept you going. Fired it back up. We also were playing it. We were playing a great playlist. I think you asked for it. I just looked it up on Spotify. The playlist is called just Vietnam War Music.

Yeah, I was watching the planes at Hank's place, and they brought the helicopters out. I was like, We got to blast fortunate song. Yeah, it's a must.

But it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day.

Nice. You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now.

It's a constant Vietnam in my brain. Just try to avoid landmines. Who's winning?

No one's winning. Yeah, a lot of resources. No one's winning. All right, I've been stuck in one elevator in my life. It was brutal. It's just like that first five minutes, are we Are we never getting out? Then you realize you're probably going to be fine.

Did you call the fire department?

No. I wasn't that worried about it until once we got out. I was like, Oh, that was bad.

What if you got caught when you were stepping up?

Or, yeah, if you were stepping up and the thing came down, that would have been bad.

Yeah, we've been real bad. We'd have been a shame.

Real bad. Okay, PFT, your who's back?

My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium. They did some renovations to it, some major renovations, to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof. They opened up the window, and they were trying to open the roof up, but they couldn't. I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium, and the stadium roof is not used to being opened in this new configuration. One of the things they took down was sent to our office. It's a piece of NFL history, to say lightly. Jim Irsay, especially packaged up and sent over, first of all, a very nice letter for myself and Big Cat.Normal signature.Totally cool signature. Referred to as Mr. Cat and Mr. Comet. I like that touch. He added in a little line about, Sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissen in the wind. So we opened up the package, and what's inside but the 2014 AFC finalist banner, the one that was hanging up in Lucas Oil Stadium. We have that here at Barstool HQ.

The Deflate Gate game.

It's the Deflate Gate game. Hank actually is responsible for that banner. Yes.

Got arrested because of that banner. Yeah.

You can't tell the story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC finalist banner. We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years. I think Memes has made 70 photoshop of it, and now it's ours, and we got to figure out a place to hang it up.

We own it.

We own it. But thank you to Mr. Earth. Incredible. Never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them. Never in a million years did I think it was going to be that banner. No. We tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang up, but we have to figure out a good place for it.

Yeah, we do. It's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr. Ursay. Also, very funny way to rid yourself of that. Yeah. Because putting it back up, you really can't, too. It's been mocked a lot. But to send it to us, it's like, We have it now.

Yeah. Tj had a very good suggestion, which was to get Christian Ushek to make jackets out of it.

I want to reupholster.

I like that idea. All of Vanny Woodhead. Just turn it into the banner on the inside.

The entire inside of Vanny Woodhead is just the banner.

What if we just got in touch with Darren Reveal and Clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards with actual pieces of the banner on it?

We also had, speaking the Colts, my new favorite NFL fan. I didn't know this guy. Apparently, he's like, I don't know. Colts fans know who he is. Flow with Seth. He makes a music video before every game, including preseason games. I'm going to play you Flow with Seth. It's only 30 seconds. His preseason music video for the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one. Shout out this guy. We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us.

This is our cult.

This is our team. We bleed blue. This is for preseason.

This is our cult. Whether win or lose, we love them. For the shoe, beat the Broncos.

Let's show them who the real horse is. This is our team.

Go cold. The Ney really does it for me. The Ney does it for me. That was horrible.

What are you talking about? That was awesome.

I'm a football fan, Hank.

That's a football guy, three and three. He makes a custom song for every game.

I like to deliver, Let's show them who the real horse is.

Yeah, and then The Ney.

The Ney was everything. The Ney went like, you're listening to it like, I don't know, I don't know. Then The Ney hits and you're like, This guy rocks.

I think Hank had already written him off After the opening line.

That was sad, Hank. Take it back. Show a little-Flow with Seth is the man. Flow with Seth is the man. Say it. No. Okay.

He can do better. Sourpuss. He can do better. I don't know.

A little sourpuss. He can do better. It was week one. It's That's the reason for Flow with Seth, too.

That's facts.

Get used to it. I was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner, how much it would go for? Then I realized we'd probably be the only ones that would bid on it. We would just drive the price up.

Yeah, awesome gift. Did you guys like Flow with Seth?

Loved them. Okay, good. A voice of an angel.

Yeah, we got to hit it. I think the banner, I think we can put it behind the video board.

Yeah, it needs to be somewhere prominent.

That's what I was thinking, too.

But that's pretty prominent. You walk in and you see it.

I just love it. I look at it and I smile.

Yeah, it does need to be hung up. I want to see it all the time.

It's probably the nicest gift I've ever gotten in my entire life.

Yeah, probably. Really?

Yeah, think about it. What could top that?

They're trying to figure out if they can put it up.

We're trying to think of it if we can make it our entire booth.

It's way too big.

No, but they could do it-All the way around. Even on top, maybe.

No, everyone would do that in their dorm room, trying to be cool, put the flag, little draped down. Yes. Get the vibes right.

I think P. F. T.

Is jealous. No, we got to look at it.

I want to find a good place. I'm just telling you because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled. It's Way too big for that room.

But what if we wrapped it where it was on every single piece of the room?

Yeah, I'm thinking completely all the way around.

I still think it'd be too big.

No, even in front of the glass.

I get to live with that.

We should give it a try. We should give it a try around the room. Okay, my Who's Back in the Week is a PGA tour because grand McDonald on the live got one game, one week suspension for for using nasal decongestion.

That's what he said, yeah. He said that it was Vicks.

Yeah, it was Vicks, banned substance. Either way, I was shocked to know that- Does this count for announcement, too?

Because Jake might be in trouble.

Big time trouble.

But I was shocked to know that Liv had a steroid policy.

I thought that was the entire point. It was like, Hey, Dustin Johnson, come play on our tour. You're good.

So the PGA tour is back. Yeah. This is bad for the Liv. You have no rules. You play golf with shorts.

I'm pretty sure that they could sweep this under the rug. Who is it? Graham McDowell? Graham McDowell. Yeah. If it was somebody not named Graham McDowell that made the money.

The next event he'll be at is the Live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big Asterix poster board.

I'm going to use so much nasal spray before that.

I can't believe you took away the game we love.

Wait, that's the next event?

That's the next. Well, he's suspended from the next event. Then the next event he can play in is the Live Chicago event. But yeah, when they said golf but louder, I didn't think it was going to have Vicks, Rub was going to be included. That's fucked up.

Yeah, if you're the live tour, make everything legal. Yeah. Have it be steroids but golf.

Right. Tackling. Yes.

And a football. And a football. And then- In pylons. And then your championship game is in February. Yeah. Then you redo the T-shot at the beginning. I mean, they make it very confusing where nobody knows what's going on.

They definitely will try to create a football league.

I'm in. Saudi's. More football. Yeah.

All right, Huey, your Who's Back of the Week. My Who's Back, the good old quarterback controversy. It's a perfect time of year for that.

I think right now in New England, in Denver, maybe a little talk about it happening in Tennessee, maybe.

It's always the mid-tier teams. It's never the top-tier Super Bowl-winning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies. But the quarterback who could be a controversy could come out like a Russell Wilson in a Matt Flynn situation. There could be a guy who comes out of this.

So it doesn't mean that they're going to be a guy this year, but this could be a future thing, especially for a Patriot or a Denver.

This is the season. This is the time when we all- This is the season.

This is the time when we all- Good all. I feel like in Denver, at least, Sean Payton has said so many nice things about Bo Nicks. You know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason? Sean Payton probably felt like he had to let Bo Nicks have a great performance, so he probably schemed some shit up for him. So he didn't look like an idiot.

That's a reputation pick. Yes. His reputation is on the line. I think the same with Pettox, although Kirk is going to be the starter. But yeah, it is fun having this time of year. Well, it's fun being on the other side.

Yeah. I don't have a quarterback-controversy.

No controversy here. As much as I love Tyson Bajian, there is no controversy.

Yeah, I literally have no other good quarterbacks.

Yeah, there was the year that the bears brought in. We brought in Foles and Andy Dalton.

That was the saddest quarterback controversy.

For Mitch Stravinsky. By the way, we You should have said Foles. Happy retirement. Yeah, happy. We didn't mention it on Friday. Hank, your favorite Foles memory?

None.

You can't think of one? No.

Come on, you can think of- Snow game. Snow game was cool.

You remember when he threw that? I don't know if he was a quarterback. Wait, he didn't throw it. Fuck him. Didn't he, at one point, catch a ball in the Super Bowl? Was in the same game that Tom braided didn't catch a ball where he dropped it?

That seems like a very special play. It does seem special. Max?

Yeah, no, I like that play.

Max, where does nick Foles rank for you all-time Eagles?

Top five.

Top five?

Top five, yeah, for sure.

I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense.

For sure, without a doubt. He didn't play long enough to be number one.

More than Hertz?

Yeah.

He won a Super Bowl.

He did? Yes.

Right now, Foles is above us.

What a career for nick Foles. Yeah, nick Foles, not He had a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he... Like a magical season. We should do him out of Rushmore of guys that had like-We had two magical seasons.

Yeah, he had the one season that people-22 and 2, was it?

22 touch downs, two interceptions.

Two interceptions. It was crazy. He couldn't throw a pick that year. Yeah. But no one thought- That was for Chip Kelly. Yeah. Then we traded for Sam Bradford.

Yeah, but he had... Let's see. Nick Foles, Super Bowl. Oh, he's got 87 million in the bank.

Cash. Pretty good. The Snow game.

Also, this is very-Yeah, that's on me.

Very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings.

I was at that game.

His birthday is January 20th, 1989.

Oh, no.

I thought- That was what my If you listen back when I said, Oh, that was because I saw in 1989, I was like, He just retired. He's four years younger than us.

If you had asked me, I would have said 1983. That sucks so much. He seems so old, right? God damn it. He's as old as Actually, I was thinking about this.

Side tangent. If LeBron wanted to, how long do you think he could play?

He's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris deal where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray so everyone sees how gray I am. Old King still rains, that type of thing. But based on the way that he played, if his steroid guy is still around- We'll get to the steroid Mount Rushmore. I think he play another five years.

But hold on. I asked that incorrectly. If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be LeBron James, but I'm going to play till I'm not good enough to play in the NBA, I think it'd be 10 years.

Maybe.

If he, in five years from now, said, I'm cool being a bench guy, coming off the bench for five minutes a game, he will be better at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of players.

I think at least five more years. Right.

At least. It's very interesting. I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He's not going to want to go out being on the bench. But he's the first time where it's like, what's his name? Haslem did. No, wait. Is that his name? Yeah, you're done as Haslem. Yeah, you're done as Haslem. But he wasn't actually contributing at the end. But LeBron, it's crazy to think, but I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old, could probably make an NBA roster.

He Probably good, yeah. I don't think that's that far off because right now, he's still top five in the world. Easily.

Top 10.

I think he's probably top five in the world. In the world, yeah. Top 10. In the US.

Top 10.

But still, I feel like he could…

Well, Tatum's better.

Is he? If they were on the same team, who do you think would get them in this?

Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just happened. What happens is the magic of the show. I was bringing up an actual hypothetical. We just ended up in this spot.

If you were to take the five best players in the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum? Tatum. But if you're trying to win.

Yeah, he'd be in the closing lineup?

He should be. He'd be in my closing lineup.

Okay. Yeah, I think at least five more years.

Yeah. I want him... Here, LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally, which I know you care so deeply about if you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55.

Jordan never won sixth man of the year.

Right. He could be... I don't know. It'd be cool. It'd be cool to see. He wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see.

You get an entire season of load management.

Right.

Just put them in.

I'm going to go hard as you can for five minutes. Yeah. Okay, let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford. Then after that, we will do our Mount Rushmore, hopefully not as contentious as yellow. Actually, I hope it is. But, PFT, you got a couple of ads before we get to Matthew Stafford.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is a future Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champ. It is our Grit Week interview presented by Coors Light. It is Matthew Stafford. First of all, thank you for joining us.

Of course. Thank you guys for having me on. Yes.

So we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit?

Oh, man. That's the good stuff. That's just being able to fight through whatever is ailing you, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right? Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is. You got to have a little grit.

Separating your shoulder and coming down the field. That clip, you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a ton. You've gone hit a million times. You're tough as hell. Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, Hey, come out? And you're like, No, I'm not fucking coming out. Do you watch that and be like, Man, I am tough.

No, I usually think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But no, it's a cool thing that I got. I'm lucky to have been miced up by NFL films for that moment. Otherwise, everybody's just calling me an idiot. Get back up. Let's go, you wuss. But it was a cool moment to have. Yeah, it's cool.

You were like, get off me. You actually had to push trainers off you. Does that usually work?

Yeah, usually. They're soft. You can get what you want when it comes to those guys. Yeah, that was a weird one, right? They called time out. For some reason in my head, the moment it clicked, it was like that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in and I knew there was only going to be one more play, so I could get through one play with her, whatever else going on.

What hat are you wearing right now? What is that? Dodger hat. Dodger hat. Do you know anyone that plays for the Dodgers?

No, I Just an outside fan.

You never went to school with anybody that's on the team?

No, just from the outside looking in, really. Can we fact check that? Really do a deep dive. I don't know if anybody's heard of it.

I mean, you play the game so you don't listen to the games. Do you know how annoying that is?

Yeah, I mean, I do. I mean, all my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time and give me a tough time. But yeah, I get it. It was cool 10, 12 years ago, but everybody gets it now. And now we add Scotty Shepfield. Yeah, I mean, it's just too much. It's crazy.

It's wild. When he got arrested, were you like, Oh, man, this is dragging our high school.

No, I was like, Good for you, bro. You're just trying to make your tea time, man. Like, guy's just trying to make his tea time. Yeah.

Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no-look passes?

I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as credit goes. I know that they're fun when they work. They're shitty when they don't. But it's part of it. I think defenses are so good these days. These guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes. So I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I can.

How long have you been doing that? Is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere? Or were you doing that way back in the day?

I think it's probably been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin. Everybody in the building, I was trying to throw him the ball. So I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing him the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But yeah, it's definitely gotten more So it was a publicity, I guess, recently. But I had to do that with Megatron, just trying to get him the ball.

When he retired, how often would you call him and be like, Can you just maybe please-Just one more game? For the love of God, please come back. I need you.

No, it You know what? That's one of those... He was such a special player, such a generational player, and such a great teammate that I was genuinely just so happy for him, that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away. He was an all-time great. We all knew it. It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. But I was so happy for him, and I'm still so happy for all his success. But yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that. But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing.

Do you have a favorite throw ever?

No, probably not.

There's got to be at least one or two that are up there.

There's a couple of good ones that I can remember that were fun and meaningful. In the Dallas game, back in the day at Detroit, big comeback late in the game. That last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham, who was my college roommate, played a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long ball down the left side into a two-tamp of coverage, which was a cool shot. In London against the Falcons. We were down big, and I think it was the TD Mark. I think they got me the career lines TD Mark, passing TD Mark. I threw one to Golden Tate that was just a launch that was a good one.

Do you know when you're throwing a deep ball, you know the second you release, you're like, damn, I fucking...

That's a good one. I threw the hell out of that. That's a good one. Yeah, no doubt. Well, that was a weird one. They were like, Hey, every once in a while, they would just rush three, drop eight. And I just told GT, I was like, Hey, man, just keep running. And it was one of those I bought a little bit of time. It was third and crazy long. Might have been 20, something like that, and hit a long breakdown. Similar to the one I hit Cooper in Tampa in the divisional round, right? Like third and 19. They're like, Oh, they're just going to check it down. And that's when you can go for the dagger every once in a while. Now, you're going to throw a couple of pics doing that, too. But some touch downs that get you back in a game or do something big.

Yeah, that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world who's a diehard Bucks fan. He literally snatched the soul out of his body, which was awesome.

I love that. That was a crazy, crazy. I mean, honestly, the deep ball to Cooper in that game to put us in field goal range is As far as a full play, the situation, the whole thing, that was a really, really special one.Weird.

Question for you.Yes. First time you ever checked your Amex points, how many did you have? This might have been a question from a weirder guy, Dan Orlowski.

Oh, Gosh, I don't know. Orlowski, did I tell him at some point? I don't know.

Yeah, he just said that. I said, what are-It's a lot of points.

I've never used any. Let's put it that way. Will you ever use any? I don't know. I'm at the point now where I'm like, I don't know if I will.

So our boss, Dave, he has 60 million points, and he said he will never use them.

I don't have that many, but-So you'll never use them either? Yeah, I have a lot of points. And you're never going to use them? No, I don't think so. Wow.

I love that. What if somebody wants your points?

We could talk about it afterwards if that's what you want to do.

Okay, you can make all your points.

Listen, I don't want to say... I'm a bears fan, so obviously, lions and bears are playing, but I always was like, I respect the fuck out of Stafford. I had to take that you're going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018, and people laughed at me. I appreciate that. That sounds like it should be worth a few AMEX.

Yeah, I can put a couple of points your way.

Have you thought of that, though? You are-MX points? Well, AMEX points, but yes, also Hall of Fame. Your career has been phenomenal. My point at the time was, look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously win a Super Bowl. He's going to be right there. And if you look right now, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touch downs. Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn, I'm stacking it up here?

I I think I definitely every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much. And I think back on, I mean, we were just talking about plays from my rookie year, and it's like, man, that was a long, long time ago. I walk into a locker room with guys that were six, seven, eight, nine years old when I first came into the league, which is crazy to think about. But I definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game. I mean, it's given me a ton. I hope I got three or four more left in me. We'll see. Every year is a new year, but I do feel good. And as far as the history books and all that stuff, I have so much respect for this game. I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff. And I was all in on Johnny Unitas and Slinging Sammie Ball and all the guys. So I have a ton of respect for this game. And just being anywhere near guys like that in that conversation is incredibly humbling and something that I don't think about on a day to day basis, but when it comes up, man, it's a ton of appreciation for me.

Yeah, why had your back? I was going back through it today, looking at it, people like, no chance. It's like, dude, he's played so many games. Yeah, I appreciate it.

It's crazy. And the Super Bowl on top of that.

So what, like a million AMX points?

Yeah, I can get you that.

Okay, all right.

That actually speaks very highly for Dan Orlowski. The fact he is a great analyst. If he knows how many AMX points you have, and you don't even know it. It's also very weird that he knows that.

I'm going to check my password when we leave here just to make sure it's not Orlowski 8.

Do you ever tell Dan, Hey, chill out, man. You love me a little too much?

No, I don't. I just accept it I accept it all. Keep bringing it. He's the man. I had such a great... He's such a good dude. He's such a great guy to be a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot. So I appreciate Dan and everything he said.

Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wents? You're like, oh, no, does he have any issue?

Yeah, I thought that was fucked up. I thought it was a trusty thing, and he just decided to turn his back for a minute.

He came back. If you love something, set it free.

If it returns. You throw a guy in, he makes points. He'll do anything. So he'll turn right back around.

I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011, you have the most fourth-quarter comebacks of any quarterback. Have you considered sucking less in the first three quarters?

I think about it, but that's such a good stat. I can't let that go to somebody else. Three, four games a year, just toy around the first three quarters and then figure it out late.

Mr. Comeback. Why not? Mr. Fourth quarter.

Why not? I got a weird question. Our good friend Tony Scheffler, he played with Detroit. When Dave and I beat him two on one in his driveway, did anyone in the Lyons locker room give him shit for that?

I don't know that we did, but man, how is Tony doing? I haven't talked to Tony in forever. He's a freaking man. He's the best. I love that guy. He was all-time celebrations guy.

Yeah, in Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay, the Bucaneer sword, the Kansas City Chiefs. He had the loin cloth. He was making the smoke signal. He was an all-time celebration guy. Super fun guy. Great dude.

A Hall of Fame dude? Mm-hmm.

Who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with?

Oh, man. That's a good question. I got a bunch, man. I think early on, the offensive lineman, the guys that I had, like Dominic Raiola was a big time great teammate, taught me a bunch.

Also a psycho, but in a good way.

Yeah, kid, baller. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable talented quarterback.

You're his godfather, right?

Yeah, he's a stud. He's one. Nate Burleison was a great dude to be around. All-time fun guy to be around. Didn't have that long of a stretch with him. Obviously, the guys here, Aaron Donald, Cooper, those guys are unbelievable.

Do you still eat breakfast, Cooper, every morning?

Yeah, pretty much. We sit in there, we're watching tape this morning a little bit. We're actually watching the 2017 Rams cold season opener.

Why?

Because we wanted to see the first game, how the offense has evolved since Sean's first game here calling it to. Now, it's quite different. And then we turned on 2018 Rams, Lions, at the Lions, and watched me lose a game, which was shitty.

No, that's tough. Are you ever like, Hey, can we watch something else besides football?

Yeah, I think about it all the time, but Cooper would be… That's totally off limits.

Have there been any other players that are trying to kiss up a little bit too much to you? And you're like, I want to get in the breakfast club.

No, it's not even an exclusive thing. Puka is in there a bunch, too. Our cafeteria here, I don't know if you guys have been lucky enough to have a meal here. We have not. It's tight quarters. Is that an in-line? Yeah, please. Okay. Please, on me. It's tight quarters in there. So there's not a whole lot of seats and tables. We're in the process of moving into a new facility. So it just migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways. So it's not some exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and stuff was up.

Going back to last year's playoffs, how tough was it to go back to Detroit? And I know, obviously, you have that history. All your daughters were born there. Was it a moment where it was like, Man, this is going to be difficult, even though we got to go play a game? There's just more energy to it.

Yeah, definitely. It definitely was. I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions, even the week of practice, thinking about it and talking to people that meant a lot to me in my life and in my career that still live in Detroit and a big part of the community there. So it definitely was It meant a lot. It was tough. And then when I walked in the stadium, I definitely felt it. But once the ball was sent in, it was time to go. I was just trying to throw for as many yards as I possibly could, throw, score as many touch downs and beat the hell out of them. It didn't go down that way, but that's all I was trying to do.

Don't worry, we gave Sean a ton of shit for punting. Okay, good. So he'll never do that again. Just because we shamed him.

We're going to go for every fourth down. Yes, it's fourth and 14.

Let's go. That's Stafford zone.

Were you surprised at the welcome that you got Detroit?

No. Honestly, I know what fans they are. And honestly, I totally understand it. I get it. They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible. They haven't had a play-off game there in 30 years, so they're going to be jazzed up or whatever. And the fact that it was me and our team, I'm sure it was even more so. That was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in. Sean and I talk about it all the time, and it was incredibly loud. We came up for warmups, and there was not an empty seat. Yeah. It was go time from the second we first stepped out of the tunnel. So it was a lot of fun. It was a great game.

Were you rooting for them after they won?

No, I'm not rooting for anybody at that point. I have a couple of teammates that I wanted to I have some teammates that I really wanted to see play well, and they did. But at that point, I wish everybody could lose.

I like that. Do you watch the playoffs?

Sometimes. It's hard. I'll peak it, but I'm not invested being I'm like, Oh, that'll be a good match up next week. I'm like, F this. I want to be out there.

After you win a Super Bowl, though, does it take a little bit of the sting out of losing the playoffs?

I think it's almost the opposite in the fact that I know what that feels like now. I've got I've got to lose in the first round. I got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like. Only got in one taste at the Super Bowl, and I'm like, Man, I want to do that. And then when you get those opportunities, I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs. When you get the opportunity, you're really close. The fact that Detroit did what they did after they beat us, man, if we win that game, who knows what happens. It makes it almost even harder, to be honest.

You're chasing the dragon. Yeah. Another parade. Yeah. You had fun at the parade. Yeah. I was going to ask if you remembered thinking that you were in St. Louis during the parade, but you probably don't remember anything. Did you say, What's up, St. Louis?

I don't know. I was having a good time. That one was an early start, limited breakfast, all the good recipe for a tough day. But you know what? We had a good time. We enjoyed it.

From a fan's perspective, when guys get super drunk at the Championship parade, it's the best. It's like, That's what you should do.

I know, right? I was felt bad about it, and Kelly was like, what are you talking about? That's what exactly... You've been playing this game for forever, getting your ass kicked. You deserve to do whatever you want. I was like, yeah, I guess so.

Yeah, have fun.

Speaking of your wife, by the way, are you nervous that she and Jersey Jerry have DMed before?

Yeah, I guess. You should be. Yeah, I am.

She's going to end up playing Madden with him.

Yeah, that's great.

I can't wait. He's also going to find a way to get all your signed memorabilia from your house. Oh, perfect.

When that goes missing, I'll know where to look. Yeah, I have no idea. Social media is a monster that is lost on me.

I'll do you a favor. I'll watch Jerry for you. Thank you.

I appreciate it. I'll make sure.I'll.

Make sure. Because if there's some weird stafford cleats showing up to the office, I'm like, Where'd that come from?Ship him back.Ship.

Him back.

He's definitely going to say, Hey, can you grab me a signed jersey? My son's a big Matt staff. His name's also Jersey Jerry. Make an autograph out to him.

He DMs a lot of players, players' wives, players' mom, so at least you have that.

Okay, good. I feel safe there. That's just his thing.

Actually, you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes. He's probably going to ask for her shoes. Yeah, that's crazy. That's what you got to watch out for with Jerry. Little shoes. You don't want those.

Quick break for Matthew Stafford. Talk about Hard Knocks. It's back, and it's the official Hard Knocks podcast from HBO and NFL Films. This year, Hard Knocks heads to Chicago for the Bear's Training Camp. I'm very excited. Episode one was fantastic. Can't wait for episode two with number one overall pick, Kyil Williams, the most highly anticipated rookie to enter the league in ages. Expectations are high at Hallis Hall. You'll hear from the Giants' front office like John Maira and Brian Dayball as they navigate the combine. Free Agency, the NFL Draft and Team Minicamp go behind the scenes with host Peter Schrager Schroeder, a friend of ours who we're going to have on the show who maybe gives us some behind the scenes as he speaks with key players from both the Giants and the Bears organizations and the crew from NFL Films. So once Hard Knocks ends, this is the podcast for you. He recaps everything. He's got stuff, stories that maybe didn't make the cut. Inside information, Peter Schrager is the best in the business. You can listen to the Hard Knocks podcast wherever you get your podcast and watch Hard Knocks on Max out now, Tuesday nights.

So check it out and give our guy Peter Schrager, a listen with the Hard Knocks podcast wherever you get your podcast. Okay, back to Matthew Staff. I have a question that's totally not written and sent to me by someone else. Here it goes. I thought for sure you would have recruited your brother-in-law here by now to take over as QB coach or OC. He is known as the best wide receiver coach in the NFL.

Yeah, I don't even know who that is. No, Chad's the man. I'll tell you what, I'm not quite at the LeBron status where I just get to bring and hire whoever I want, but Chad is the man. I used to throw to him all the time in the offseason, too. He was like my receiver back in the day. But yeah, we've been trying to get him out here some way, somehow. He would go great in California with the blonde flow. I mean, it's a real thing.

Sean just hired his best friend from college.

That's true, but I don't make the coaching hires. If Chad could still run a route, I could maybe get him a try out as a receiver. But no, it's really cool to watch his career and their family grow. It's been cool. Yeah, all right.

So just remember the name Chad Hall. He's going to be a head coach.Oh, yeah, absolutely.He's.

Next up.

Yes, absolutely.

He's known as the best wide receiver coach.

That is what I read.

He rocked it on Buffalo there for a long time, and he's crushing it in Jacksonville now. So he does a good job.

And that's not from him?

No, no, no, no. I read that off.

That was from a different guy.

That was top of my head.

Well done. So what are we thinking for this year? How are we looking to camp? I know that Coach told you guys not to fight, right? Yeah. Have you fought anybody? I have a theory that the new Guardian, the caps that they wear, the soft ones, people are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer.

Well, I saw some clips from what? Detroit and New York the other day, they were fighting pretty good, and dudes were just smacking each other in the Guardian cap. But I guess it doesn't hurt your hands as much. I have not fought anybody. Haven't had the urge to yet. I'm usually just too tired of practice to even think about fighting, but No, we've kept the chipping us down, which is good. Camp's been good. A couple of guys dinged up, which is the worst for those guys. I feel so bad for them. We're trying to come together, but I feel good about this year.

So as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it, I imagine that going to camp every year in the middle of the summer, you're like, it's probably not a great feeling, but also something that you have to do, something to learn. Are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past?

No, it's pretty standard for me. I had one vet off day, the first day of pads this year. That was the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else. That was something that we knew going into camp that I was going to do. But no, it is late July every year. You just buckle your chin strap and get ready for a six, eight month grind. And this is the start of it. I know training camp has changed so much. When I first got in the league, I was part of the old CBA. We were going two, three a days, full pads, just beating each other up for weeks on weeks. And it's definitely more player friendly now. But I also think it's just a better way to do it. I think we're getting better work out of it.

Yeah. So speaking of camp, how fast last year were you like, Oh, Puka Naku was a dude.

Yeah. I mean, Kup was out last year pretty quickly with a ham string, and we lost him. Yeah, I mean, you could feel it, just physical. It was always going to take time. You're a rookie, right? It's going to take time to keep understanding, but it was a testament to him to be able to learn on the go. A lot of people need a full year to just learn and then go, and he was able to do it all in one. Physical tools are there. I mean, big, strong, physical. So much of his yardage last year was like hidden yardage, run after the catch. And that stuff you can't really teach. You just let him be himself. And that's a pretty darn good player. Yeah.

Go ahead. I was going to say on the college front, do you call the dogs?

Do I call the dogs?

Can you use a fan?

Like a Georgia thing?

They call in all the dogs. They start barking at people.

Oh, yeah. No, I'm not like... You know what? I actually get wildly uncomfortable when people bark at me or be like, I'll be walking on the street. They're like, No dogs. And I'm like, yeah, I don't ever give them the go dogs back. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know why. It's definitely a player-fan disconnect. I agree. We'll see videos on flights going across the country to a Georgia, like a road game or a bowl game. And there'll be guys just jam-packed on Southwest Airlines just barking at the pilot when he gets on. What the fuck?

He's screaming at me. I'm like, Guys, thanks. You got to start barking back. Yeah, I need to. Just a little bark. I know. I need to. My wife's from Georgia, so I got to make her proud. What was your favorite game at or your least favorite game? Favorite game at Georgia? Probably two. We had the Blackout versus Auburn my sophomore year, which was the first time we ever wore a black jersey, which was sweet. We had a great game. Keelen Johnson, I believe, was a pick on the first play, which was awesome. And then Sugar Bowl that year in Hawaii against Hawaii was really cool. Felt like we should have been a national championship game there. That year, we got jumped because we didn't go to the SC Championship, but went to New Orleans, had a good time in New Orleans, and beat up on Hawaii. So that was a good one. Least favorite game, probably at Kentucky. My freshman year, got my helmet ripped off on a run, QB run on third down, kept running, smashed in the forehead, nose cut, the whole thing. And we lost. So I had the loss and just a mauled face for a couple of weeks, which is a tough one.

It probably looked pretty sweet, though, when it happened.

Yeah. I mean, I don't remember it that way, but as a fan, you probably thought it was sweet.

Because you seem to take How should I put it? A less physical approach to the game sometimes. I've seen you out in space as a lead blocker on a reverse. Oh, yeah. You're blocking. It's something to watch. Yeah, it is. You get in the way, but then also get out of the way.

Nowadays, I'm just talking to the defenders. Hey, man, easy up. Don't hit me. I'm just trying to get out of the way safely. But earlier in my career, I liked the physical part of the game a little bit more than I do now. There's no question. Yeah.

In that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. You got knocked around a little bit. Do you get mad in the games? When you have that adrenaline surge like you did in the rookie year, what we talked about, are you mad? Are you mad that they're hitting you like that?

No, it fires me up a little bit. There's only two ways for you to go react as a player. You're going to either wilt and go sit on the sideline and be intimidated by getting hit, or you got to charge yourself up and be like, Keep bringing it. I think one of the early third downs of the game, I threw to Marcus Robinson and smashed my hand on the helmet and got hit and hurt like hell. But the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't and scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's great.

How far can you throw the ball still?

Still? Oh, man, I don't know. And maybe what was your peak? Yeah, I don't do it much anymore. In high school, we went to that Elite 11 camp. I threw 178. That was the longest I ever tried and threw it.

I read a story that you went to the Manning Passing Academy to me. Or yeah, when you were on the Manning cast, maybe they told the story that Eli and Payton were like, We don't want to throw after Stafford when you were 17 years old because you were just hucking it everywhere.

Yeah, back in the day, the arm was live. It was live back in the day, taking a couple of hits, hurt a couple of things here and there. But no, I can still get it out there a little bit. I couldn't even tell you, to be honest with you, it's probably starts with a six instead of a seven like it used to, but it's probably a high six number.

Do you guys not like catching your balls? When they over from a different team, are they like, This guy, it hurts?

It used to be that way. It used to be when I was young and I didn't really know what I was looking at. Everything was coming out as hard as I could. And I was trying to hurt people with it. Now I'm trying to help them catch it, which is better for the completion percentage.

People don't give Matt Staff I've earned enough credit for your arm.

Yeah. Well, I don't know. It's whatever it is still anymore. But back in the day, I could throw it around a little bit. Yeah.

Did you ever play baseball?

I did.

Were you on anyone's team?

No. No. Just a lowly...

Sounds like you got a live arm.

It was a one-man show. Did you have the best arm on your team? No. Oh, no.

Who did? That's crazy.

Jake Felt. Just picked another teammate. Jake, love you, man. Shout out Jake. He's sitting in his office right now. Fuck you.

That's exactly what we needed another guy to talk about. A guy that nobody talks about.

Jake Felt. I'll tell you what, he was eighth grade. This guy was shaving in the eighth grade. He was an unbelievable stud. We'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs, launching it.

You get that, Matt Stafford and Jake Felt.

Best it ever was, Jake Felt.

I don't understand how people don't know that. But fun fact about Jake Felt, five touch downs in the state Championship game, Texas high school record.

Wow. Jake Felt, legend.

Jake Felt, legend.

And he caught... Who threw those?

Zero throws.

How about that?

What? Yeah.

They were playing a lot of two deep show. We were handing it off, Coach.

Take what you give it. We were just running with it?

Running with it. Caught a pass from a receiver on a double reverse pass to a receiver. W of nothing. It was like a-Jerry's World? No, back in the day, Tyler Rose Stadium. Jake Felt.

Jake Felt was a problem.

We're going to just start saying that like, who is the best to come out of Highland Park? Jake Felt. Have you ever heard Jake Felt?

Yeah. He's going to be fired up. Good for you, man.

Deep cut. Good for you, man.

We got to have Jake Felt.

When was the last time you talked to Jake Felt?

I talked to Jake a decent amount. Okay. All right. Cool.

We got to have him on the pot at some point. We actually are.

Open invite.

Yeah, we're going to track him We're going to enter your seat belt. That rocks.

What's in store for this year? Prediction.

Record? Yeah. I don't do that. We're going to try to win a whole lot more than we do lose. But no, it's so much fun to get out there and do it, man. I honestly do have a ton of fun with it. But as far as predicting a record, I got no idea for you. We'll see, every year is a brand new year. If you would have told me last year we're going to be three and six at the bio, I'd have told you you were crazy because I thought we were playing really good. And then if I told you we're going to win seven and one, we're going to go seven and one after that, you would have told me I'm crazy. So it's just got to go out there and play. I mean, that's the cool and amazing part about NFL football is you go into the season, you know Georgia is going to be good. You know Ohio State and those teams are going to be the big time powerhouses. And then you come in the NFL, you're like, man, who knows? Nobody had the Houston Texans doing what they did last year.

Got to go out there and prove it every single year.

How awesome was it at the end of the game against the Commanders last year where Ron Rivera ran nine plays inside the two-yard line, and he took four minutes off the clock and didn't a fucking point off it?

Are you bitter about that?

No, actually, I was at the time. I was very angry at the time. But because we lost that game, we drafted Jaden Daniels.

I'm high. I think he's awesome. He's super fun to watch. At least he was in college. And then an old backup of mine is a QB coach there, too. David Blau. Shout out David Blau. He did some good things for him. Love it.

David Blau. Purdue?

Purdue, Boilermaker. His wife ran the 400 meter hurdles when he with the lines. They did the whole deal. The team watched it. I don't think she ran this year, but yeah. Old David Blau's QB coach.

Yeah. All right, so no predictions, but dream career, how many more years are you playing?

I don't know, man. I feel really good and healthy right now.

That's a really good cliché answer.

No, but I would say this. Yeah, I mean, I'm full of them. I've been doing this for a long time. But no, I do think that there's no possible way I could tell you that answer right now because at the end of last year, I was completely worn out and zapped, right? And then it takes me forever to just get charged up to go again. And what I put myself through, physically, emotionally, mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out. I got an awesome family that I love being around. I don't know. I know I'm going to enjoy this year. Hopefully, I'm back next year playing. Hopefully, I'm back the year after that plan, but I can't make any difference.

But you feel great right now. I do.

That's all that matters. I feel really good. I do. Honestly, elbow was shit a couple of years ago. It feels great now. There's a lot of me that has revamped and feels a lot better, so I feel good.

Yeah, it felt like when you were going through your elbow injury, when you were trying to gut it out for a little bit, you had some weird games where you had to throw it weird.

I was in a bad spot. Really, that elbow started the whole '21 season. I started wearing that sleeve because I was taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going. I heard it in camp that year and was able to get through that. And then we tried to do some things to help it fix, and I had And 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So it feels great. Last year felt great. It feels good again.

Are you like us as fans? If you have a bad game, do you just try to avoid any media coverage whatsoever? And you're like, I don't want to listen to anything. I don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up. Then I have to listen to their dumb ass take about it because as fans, we avoid the media like the plague on Monday, Tuesday, probably Wednesday, even Thursday. I don't want to accidentally catch any strays about flashing back to that game.

Yeah. No. At that point, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm so moved on to the next game. Obviously, I'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game. If we had a bad one or I had a bad one, all right, how do we fix it? And if you're not thinking about the next opponent Monday or Tuesday, you're way behind. So that's where my focus goes. And I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to a lot of sports talk or any of that stuff during the season.

For that reason. So Steven A. Smith doesn't enter your head at all.

No, Steven A. He doesn't have any space up here.

Hey, who would have won the fight between Jim Schwartz and Jim Harbaugh? Harbaugh?

That's a great throwback. Yeah. One of our favorites. Harbaugh was already deru robing. He was ready to shirt off. He was ready to throw down. That's an early advantage. We weren't going to be able to hockey, pull the shirt over and go. But no, that would have been a good one to watch. It would have been a really interesting one to see. That escalated quickly. Very quickly. As we like to say. But man, I got to go with my guy that drafted me, Schwartz. He's a really sharp dude. He probably would have found an interesting way to win that one.

I think he would have had to kill Harbaugh. Because if that's Harbaugh because unless Harbaugh is dead, he gets to stop.

I mean, that's fair. That's a fair point.

Did you ever tell Coach Schwartz that his nipples were showing? Because he always had rock-hard nipples.

That never came up. Okay. You would think it was. I saw it.

No, it never did. It was just hallway. I don't know what it was. I think he was just so excited to coach football.

Yeah, I think he just gets geared up for it, man. Have that polo.Tucked in. Damn.

Have you noticed Coach McVay's beard's a little bit fuller?

Yeah, I think he's always got a great beard.

Is it all natural?

Oh, is that what you guys are hearing?

Is he on the gear?

I don't know, man. He might be. I'll have to get back to you guys on that one.

No, we're confirming he is.

We got out of him. Hairshot into his face. Yeah. Oh, shit.

That's a thing, huh?

To thicken it out.

Let him know he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, I will. Yeah. Asterisk.

Have you thought about, by the way, going to the Hall of Fame, who you would want to give your introduction speech?

Oh, man. No, that's way too preemptive. It was 2018. I was the one calling. No, I can't think of anybody. No, I have no idea. I wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now. It's a bad look.

Do you think about dying your beard?

No. I'm full Whatever happens, happens. A gray situation.

I feel like it'sI battle it.

It's like, you know what? I got four daughters. No shit. You got a gray beard. I think that comes with the territory.

I get ashamed for it all the time. People just pointed out every picture.Thank you. It looks great.Thank you.

I appreciate it. That's crazy that you got four daughters.

Yeah.

And there's only two parents. Yeah, right? So who watches the other two?

Yeah, nobody. Just figured it out.It's free range. It's like tag team. They come in, come out, come in. We just hope we don't lose them.

When was the last time you got a full night's sleep?

Actually, last night, my kids are actually vacationing at the beach right now. So it was a beautiful night's sleep. That's why it looks so rested. Yes.

Good stuff.

Thanks for saying it.

All right. Well, Matthew, this has been awesome. I got one last question. Chevy question. Go to chevy. Com. Silverado, toughest truck out there. This might be a weird one. You might not even have any idea who these people are. Were you ever in the same room or were you aware of Superfan in Detroit Dawn? Two legends of the season ticket holding community in Detroit.

Is that Crack Man, Crack Man or whatever his name is? No.

They had a famous video where they got kicked out and they did a press conference from an alley.

I don't know that one.

All-time video.

I need to check that out. Send it to me. Let me know.

Yeah, I'll say- The End zone. They're the best. I went- I feel bad now. I went for the Mac Championship. It was, I don't know, 10 years ago, 11 years ago. They said when they got kicked out, they said where their season tickets were. So I went and bought tickets. I'm a bears fan. I hate the packers. You guys were playing the packers. Went to the game, sat and watched the game with them, dressed up, everything. No shit. It was the Aaron Rodgers-Hale-Merry game.

That was a tough game.

Right in their face. They were sitting there telling me that they were... I don't remember what your guys' record was at the time.

We had just won the Thursday night game before that or the Thanksgiving Day before that. I think we missed the play outside here by one game.

Yeah, because they were doing the math. They're like, once we win this game, we're going to win the next one. And then boom, right in their face.

That one hurt. Fantom face mask. Yep.

That's when Aaron Rodgers, he gets away with that shit.

Yeah, well, you know what? He should be in jail. It was a nice toss. It was a nice toss. We were in a tough defense. I think we had Ziggy on to guard in the sideline at that point, which didn't make.

Yeah, probably not the most sense. But yeah, Detroit Dawn is a super fan. They're big fans. They're what the crazy Detroit fans are. We had a super fan on the show when the lines made it to the playoff just to get his reaction. He said that there was a woman who sat next to him named Sprinkles, who said, what time, 2017? She's like, I'm never coming another game until they make it to the playoff. Then they saw her at the playoff game. She showed up.True to her word.Yeah..

What a lady, Sprinkles.

I think she dressed like a clown.

Yeah, they thought she had died. And they were like, What?

Sprinkles alive. Yeah, so they brought her back to life.

That's incredible. Good for them.

But, Matthew, thank you so much. Best of luck this year. Appreciate it. Future Hall of Famer, future giver of AMEX points to me.

Former teammate of...

Jake Felt.

Jake Felt.

The legend, yeah.

And Tony Scheffler, our guy. We'll watch Jersey Jerry because, again.

Appreciate it. I need a little oversight there.

The minute you see that name, I don't even know what that conversation is like. I don't want to know. If your wife was like, Hey, I talked to this guy Jersey Jerry.

I'll ask.

Yeah, we got to shut that down. Perfect.

I like that. Sounds good. Thanks, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Appreciate it.

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Okay, time for Mount Rushmore. Before we do that, we did promise that we would tell the Huey story after the Matthew Stafford interview. Huey, obviously big Lion's fan. He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said not, Hey, Matthew Stafford, I'm a huge Lion's fan, or, Thank you for being the quarterback on my favorite team. He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said, Hey, Matthew Stafford, you're the first person I ever saw get drafted. I still don't really understand what that means. And then we asked you, and he's like, Well, I was nine. It was the first draft I watched. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah.

You don't remember any players ever getting drafted? You don't remember Calvin Johnson? How old were you? I didn't watch it live.

He literally just saying physically he remembers. He didn't watch the draft before.

Where were you? Where were you when Matthew Stafford got drafted?

On the couch. Yeah, nice. First player I ever remember getting drafted. Now, did you watch the draft the year after? Yeah. Was it Sue? Sue and the- I don't know. Oh, yeah. Was it? I thought it was the Sam Bradford draft. Yeah, it might have been. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah.

That's what got me into the draft.

I got super into all the and got me into football. But the first season I ever watched was the 'O'N'16 season. Okay. So I watched every game.

So the draft was your biggest game.

Okay, that makes more sense. And then I didn't know how the draft worked. And then The week of the draft, I figured it out. I was like, Oh, okay.

We're on first. That's the first thing. Not a snake. Yeah, but I also- That'd be sick if it was.

It would be. I assumed staff was going to be a God, like day one. All right, we're set. He's the guy. That was weird when you had to deal with all that.

Huey, who was your favorite person to watch get drafted?

It was Nadamukind, too. It wasn't a year after.

Because you knew what to... You were ready for that draft.

You were a draft vet. Yeah, I've been through it before at that point.

I was so excited for that guy.

Stafford's face when you said that, he was just like, What?

But he laughed. He was like, Oh, okay. All right.

I never heard that one before.

He probably has so many lines fans that have gone up to him in his career, and never once has somebody said that to him.

You were the first person I saw get drafted.

That's impressive. Yeah, that's true.

He's not going to forget that one. No, he definitely will not.

I love that because you're going up to one of your athletic heroes and being like, Let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time. It meant a lot to me to see you on my television. Yeah.

Your name called. I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about the playoff game and the Yeah, him getting his ass kicked in Detroit.

It was very cool hearing both him and Sean McVay. Obviously, he's different with Stafford because of the time that he spent there, but how much they love that stadium in that environment, how cool they thought it was.

We've been trying to get Stafford on forever, and it did not disappoint. Just a fucking great dude.

Yeah, he's the man. Like, awesome dude.

Had a lot of fun talking to him. Hope everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. What is the score? Do we Can I have it?

I can pull it up.

Pull it up? I'm in first. That's a slight little bit of controversy, maybe.

No, there's no controversy, really. Hank broke the rules.

Yellow really set this thing off. It feels like we're back into Mount Rushmore season.

Yeah, I saw a lot of pictures of yellow cheese. Thank you, everyone, for having my back. What?

Wait. Yellow cheese. That wasn't what you said. You saw no pictures of yellow pepper jack cheese.

Wait, Hank, all the The pictures that people were sending you and me and Big Cat and Max, you thought that those were yellow pictures of pepper? They were sending that to you.

Yellowish. Not yellow. They're ready to get tortured, buddy. Get ready to get tortured. What do you mean? Just this. Why? I don't think you're equipped. Your brain's equipped right now.

Oh, I'm ready to go.

Okay, so you cheated.

This one. Yeah, but you cheated. I have the scores, by the way.

Okay, give us the score. I came in dead last. It didn't matter. But you still cheated. I did not. You did cheat.

The rule is you're not supposed to tip your pics beforehand. The first tweet I saw from you on Friday morning was Coldplay Yellow.

That was a coincidence.

You also had a picture of Spunj Rob.

These are your rules, by the way. Spunj Rob and Pikachu.

You created that after you guys were... You created these rules.

That was after you guys were- You created these rules.

Flipping out.

Yeah, Hank, you retweeted.

I created the rules. I didn't break them.

You retweeted the Mount Rushmore, and you're not allowed to do that.

I do that every fucking show. You can't retweet the poll and say, vote for team 2.

No, you don't retweet the Mount Rushmore. It's very different.

Yes, I do. You broke the rules on Mount Rushmore Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear, and that's what you do. You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules.

You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore season.

How about minus one point, him and PFT tied?

I think that's fair.

No. Tied for last?

When I broke the rules last You actually broke the rules. What was the punishment that you had?

I forget.

You were the first one to break the rules with Mount Rushmore.

We need the Commissioner of Rushmore to chime in.

You broke the rules of Mount Rushmore way back in the day. He broke the rules, but he also came in last.

Yeah, came in last.

The pizza draft, you broke rules.

Came in last, so it doesn't matter.

Of what?

This yellow. Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying.

It's a pattern of you flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the integrity of the operation.

Which you did in the pizza draft.

Got it. All right, so what do you want to do? I'll just retire? Nothing.

All right, good.

I don't want to retire. You would be in last.

I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I forgot. I had memory holds of it because you've put so much blame on us for ruining Mount Rush.

We seem like the bad guys.

You are. I forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft, you admitted that you had someone else make all the pics for you.

Liam?

Yeah. Not you. Which is illegal.

Oh, it's not. It wasn't on your team.

You don't ask people for... No.

Yeah, you do. What? What are you talking about?

Yeah, what? Liam made your list-You wait, how many times-Wait, yeah, you ask people for help?

No, but I'm sure you guys do. No.

We're not doing rocket science.

I was just curious.

Okay. All right, so Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged. We'll put Alleged in for... But a lot... Most of these people-Do you want the score?

I got the score. Yeah.

Hank, did you ask anybody for help in this draft?

Yeah, I did.

Billy football?

He could be a pick. He could be a pick.

He could be a pick. All right, here's the scores. Max, first, 53.

You don't have to say it like that.

Big Cat, second, 44. Hank, third, 37. Pft last, 36.

We have nine Mount Rushmore's left.

Is that it? Hank got last place. I got first place in the last one. But memes, we need to figure out what the punishment is.

We have nine Mount Rushmores left because we ended before the Labor Day is the last one. It's going to get tight, boys. Okay. Memes? I don't think Hank should be punished. Yeah, no punishment. I think he should just be… You should give him a warning, though. All right, you get one warning. There we go. Maybe another warning. But I wanted a documented warning. When people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores, but then it says Hank received one warning. Actually, I'll find him.

Mims, could you put that in writing? Yeah. A written warning?

I'm going to find $1,000 to the commissary. When people look back at the history of part of my take, and they go through every Mount Rushmore season, it should say Hank one morning. Do you agree?

I would love a suspension to do it.

The yellow cold play, though.

We've never done that before.

I wasn't tweeting it. That wasn't tipping a pick.

No, but you can't retweet. Oh, you just happened to tweet your pick that morning.

Yeah, it was just a video.

I mean, we could play that game. You made this rule because we have bigger followings, and we could play this game, but we play by the rules. If I just tweeted out my pick in the morning, everyone would be like, Oh, I'm going to go vote for that. What you say, you allege that?

I guess.

You do. The whole reason we have the rule is because you're like, The listeners will vote for PFT and Big Cat over anyone else, so we can't let them know. And then you went and did that.

It's almost like you did it intentionally. Yeah.

It's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore.

No, I guess that was a mistake. I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it, but that, I guess, by the letter of the law was wrong.

Your laws.

What do you mean you weren't thinking that thoroughly? These are all points that you've said to us before.

You've made these laws on us.

Yeah, I wasn't tweeting it about Mount Rushmore. It was a great song. I got reminded of it when I made the great pick, and then I was like, Oh, it's a great song. Let me tweet it out. It's not that good. Share it with my friends.

It's not that.

You came last.

It's not Mount Rushmore's cool play song.

Yeah, the anime freaks didn't show out.

Shocker. Part of my take in the anime crossover.

We got a few. Okay, who goes first here? Mount Rushmore.

I go first. It's a terrible draft to go first.

Shout out our guy at the Meet & Read who gave us this idea. I think this is a good draft.

Yeah, it's a good This will also be a good... It'll be a nice change of pace from Friday. It'll be a lot of- Yeah, right.

There's some more open-ended ones coming up because I do like those the most. Yeah, but we needed a- We needed a straightforward one.

That one took a lot of years off my life, I think.

We were arguing it days later. Mozzarella, Italian, American. White. They're all white.

Yeah, no. There was times where I was laying in bed and I was just thinking about the different white cheeses. Then I was thinking. There was another time. At one point, I thought, I was like, Oh, that's a good argument that I should have used. I was thinking, I was like, Hank said yellow starbursts. Does that mean he gets all starbursts because there's one yellow starburst?

Oh, I really I battled you.

Taking yellow starburst was maybe the worst pick out of it.

No, yellow is the cold play song.

It was very bad.

Yeah. All right. So I first picked-Picked Patrick Mahomes. What?

Nothing.

I did it. I admitted it was a bad pick. You haven't admitted any bad pics. I said I got crazy with that one. It was stupid. Sometimes in Mount Rush, where I know the PFT can back me up, but sometimes you just throw one and you're like, Whoops, that was a mistake.

I do it all the time.

Probably should have- It just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like, Fuck, I wish I had that back.

I always should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft. Yeah, right. It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick.

But it happens every Mount Rushmore season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft. Someone makes a good pick, you panic. Patrick Mahomes gets picked.

I should have said meatball and pizza. Yeah, you should have. Yeah. Didn't.

Okay.

My turn.

Yeah, first.

I will go with I think steroids. I think one person, I think Barry Bonds.

Okay, good pick.

That's a good one-one. That was a good one-one.

There are a lot of good picks, but that's the one-one, I think.

I still have my one-one, but I had Bonds as one-two. It was, they can Konseco.

Good pick.

Big steroids guy. He's like the Johnny Apple seat of steroids for Major League Base. Taught everyone how to use it. Basch Brothers. He looked like a beached whale. He was on so many steroids when he boxed Billy. Jose Konseco has got to be one-one. Yeah.

All right. I'll just stay consistent here. Mark McGuire broke the home run record. That was Steroid City. He was also the tip of the whole thing when they found the Andro.

Great. Yeah. Genius move on his part, by the way. We don't talk about... That's PR 101. You leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker, so people talk about that, and then that's the controversy.

Yeah, I would say these are the faces. Those are the three faces of steroids.

Yeah, the three pimply backs of steroids.

Yeah, Mark McGuire. We should have said before, we got no problem with any of these.

Right.

We like steroids.

They all should be in the Hall of Fame.

In the Hall of Fame. It's not a Maybe not Konseco. No, his numbers probably aren't there. He lost Billy football.

He should have taken out. That's the number one thing of why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

But yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, they should be in the Hall of Fame. All right, Hank.

I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong. Good pick. Then I will go… Tough.

See, Four is such a good spot. It is.

Four is a good spot. We have the bangers back together. But Then things are going to be pretty thin.

Yeah, there's a wall. One's a tough spot for this draft.

Brian Cushin.

Okay. Interesting. I had him on my list. He was much further down on my list, but I had him.

I like it. I actually don't know. I'm going to take my next pick that I was planning on. I would have even taken him one, my first pick, because he is also Mr. Steroid, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I thought about him at 1-1.

I mean, He actually also... The way he talks about steroids is very funny. He's like, I was prescribed by a doctor. Now, all these guys are doing steroids, and it's bad. But he was just roiding up. He was. I mean, all his just He's an icon. You think you feel good about Brian Cushy? No. He's on my others.

I had him as fourth-round value.

He's on my others.

I mean, he was roided out. He was. I think it was a combination of the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah.

Good pick.

Good picking.

Okay, PLD.

Arnold Shorst's name is- He's staring through my soul right now. Are you mad at me or are you mad at yourself? I'm not mad. I'm happy.

He took cold play again.

I feel good.

He just did it again.

I feel good.

Okay.

Lance was a good pick. Thank you. Lance had to go in the first round. No brainer. Had to go in the first.

Absolutely no brainer for Lance. All right, for my second pick, I'm going to go with... I'll go with Samy Sosa. Samy Sosa. Might not have done steroids. Did steroids. Definitely did steroids.

I think his head got twice as big. I don't appreciate that question. Didn't he get adult braces, too?

I think he got braces when he was 35 years old.

I'm going to find that clip from this year when When Luke and Alice asked him if he finally is ready to talk about his steroid use.

And he just didn't talk, right?

No. Hold on. This is what he said.

Like I said, this is not a question that I expected from you.

Okay, that's not a guy who did steroids.

Yeah, not a question.

That's not a guy who did steroids.

That's the only question he's ever been asked.

I might have to put an asterisk on that pick, BFD.

Big time steroid guy. The biggest. He also did a genius movie. He did his own version of Andrew, but it was with a cork bat.

Yeah.

Or it was like everyone was-That was to put on a show for the people, Wrigley. That was a batting practice bat.

I just love that he's still like, you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid question still like, kneecap you in 2024. Yeah, just say you did it, dude. Just be like, not a question I expected from you. Okay.

I'm going to go with A-Rod.

Okay, good pick.

I'm between two.

A-rod, I should take an A-Rod.

No, I would have- You got suspended for a year. I would have rather…

Well, you have another pick. I know.

You're saying you would rather have taken Sam.

I think I would have rather had Sam. I'll trade Sam.

What trade? Can we do trades?

No, there's no trades. We have the most passive. Basically, our commissioner is Bud Seelig. He's just like, I'm not looking at what you guys are doing.

All right, no trade.

No trade.

Okay.

This one's tough. Between two guys. I'll go Roger Clemens. Good pick. Roger Clemens. Good pick.

Yeah. Okay. My favorite road rage moment from Roger Clemens was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza. Yeah. Then he yelled at him. I thought it was the ball afterwards. Yeah, no.

That was his excuse. The other guy is probably a better player, but Clemens is more of a steroid guy in my mind. Yeah.

I mean, he just got so angry.

He's such a steroid guy. Yeah.

He got so angry. Okay, PFT.

I'm going to go with Vince McMahon.

Had him on my list.

I had him on my list. Vince.

Yeah. He also did the Bud Sealing where he just let everybody else use steroids. Yeah, he didn't care.

He just was so fucking roided out that when he... Like the Attitude era, it was crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Okay, I'll go with Someone different. Some may say best in the world, best ever. John Jones.

Yeah, had him on my list. John Jones. The only thing about him is he did so many other drugs.

Yeah, he did, but he did do steroids.

He did steroids also.

Yes. He's a lot of guys. Yeah, he's everything. He tried it all. Okay, Hank.

Okay, I have two.

Yes. There's a big one there. There's a big one. Yeah.

Is there? Yeah.

Really big one. He's big in his name.

Yeah. You would never pick him.

But you could maybe save your draft.

I will go.

There's honestly two guys.

Yeah, there's two guys. Actually, three. There's three guys. There's three guys you could pick. What about a girl? Should we give Hank five? Five pics? No. If he to take Manny Popy in Nomar?

No, I'll take Manny Ramirez. Oh, okay.

That was the one I was debating with.

The way he got caught was very funny.

He was taking a female fertility drug, right?

Yeah. They had a system. I think he just forgot.

He said he took his wife's by a mistake?

No, but they had a system. They talked about it. The guy that did it, they had a system to get by the testing. That was foolproof. Manny Ramirez just forgot and took it on the wrong day, came in, got tested, got busted.

He took the pill on the wrong day?

Yeah, because he was an idiot. Then I will go with LeBron James.

Oh.

Interesting pick. Interesting. Very interesting. That's fun.

That's a fun one. Hater of the Year, Hanky. Hater of the Year. Probably, you're not going to get any LeBron fans. There are many.

Lebron sexuals are not going to like that one. All right, I got a pick.

How is he not on steroids?

What do me that? I'm not debating that.

I'm just saying-I'm not throwing a flag.

That's probably an honorable mention.

Yeah, I have a pick that I don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on.

Julian Edelman?

No.

I know where you're going, and I would take this.

Yeah.

I will take this if you don't mind.

All right, fine. I will. Payton Manning's wife. Yep, that was my fourth pick.

I had him. That was my fourth pick. All ledged. I had Payton Manning's wife.

That was going to be that. He almost took it one-one, to be honest. I thought about it one-one.

That was going to be my last pick. Yeah. Yep, good pick.

Thank you. Yeah, I would have done it if he didn't. It makes me feel better that everyone else would have done it.

Yep, people forget.

Alleged.

Yeah.

But yeah, that was a hilarious story.

Very funny. They still got it in the row.

We're not saying Payton did it.

No, his wife. His wife is a steroid guy.

His wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury. Yeah.

Wanted to win a Super Bowl. Wanted to win a second one.

Okay.

It's That's your last pick? Yeah. I'm going to take Secretariat.

I knew you were going to.

Secretariat, some would say the greatest athlete of all time, but its heart was three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretary, definitely on steroids. Randy Moss, white Randy Moss, agreed chances are very high that Secretariat was doing steroids. Dirty Horse. That's why Flight Line is the goat.

Yep, Flight Line is the goat. Okay, Max, your last pick.

I really wanted Peyton Manning's wife. That's upsetting to me.

Oh, wow. Clip that. There is another wife, but you already... No. You could get the couple. No. Roger Clemen's wife.

No, I don't need that.

That was not as famous as a story, although there was the picture shoot.

By the pool? Yeah, there's a big one out there.

I'll just go with Big Papy, but I don't know what you're thinking.

I was thinking Tiger Woods.

Who?

Did he?

I mean, you could make the argument. Yeah. Maria Schiappa.

I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever. Yeah.

All right, so Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions. Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian Cushion. Okay. Okay.

All right.

Jerrord Krabbes.

Terrible pick. Okay.

Billy Football.

You'd rather have- No. Yeah.

Lever King.

Lever King is a good one I thought about. Taylor Luan. Nah, he's done. He's popped.

No one knows. Hulk Hogan.

I had Hulk Hogan. I thought about it. Yeah.

Decent. But I'd still rather Brian Cushian.

What about Dr. Dre?

Didn't even know he was on steroids.

What about I actually think when I think football steroids, Bill Romanowski.

You're old. Okay.

Oh, yeah, that's right. He had a suitcase.

I thought about- He broke the fucking face.

He broke his teammate's face. I should have went Stallone last.

Stallone.

I had Ivan Drago, if we wanted a fictional.

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with wrest or actors taking steroids.

We're not saying there's anything wrong with anyone taking steroids.

No, I know, but it's like it's- What about the Boz? When you think steroids, you think of Rule Breakers, not just guys like a Jack.

Would you take the boss over Brian Cush? I don't know.

Tony Mandrick?

No.

You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? Oh, I definitely do.

I think he's just Jack.

Okay.

Joe Rogan.

I'm going to come.

Joe Rogan was another one that I thought about.

Would you take Joe Rogan over? Hurt Kreischer?

No.

Tom Segura?

I like... Brian Cush is a good pick.

When you see the name Brian Cushin, you instantly think steroids.

Busta Rimes.

Is he on steroids?

Yeah, he's fucking swole, man. Cee T.

You sound like Cee T is a good one.

Yeah, Cee T is a good one. Also, what's his name? Wes. Yes. Wes was a fucking classic steroid user. He was a skinny ass fuck, and then he came back, roided out that one season. Said he had over...

He was-100 companies.

He had 100 companies, and then someone figured out he was just like, He just invested in a mutual fund.

Yeah. So he owned technically 100 companies.

Eric Gagne. He was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case.

His name translates to I win.

Yeah. Deandre Hopkins.

Doesn't pop. I like Brian Cushin is a good pick. Okay.

Macho Man, Randy Savage.

All wrest are on it.

Chris Benoît.

I thought about Benoît. Yeah, it would have been tough.

That's a tough one. That's a tough one. You don't want to vote for that.

But a very big steroids. You don't want to vote on that guy.

Undeniable.

Undeniable steroid guy.

Yeah, for sure.

Ben Johnson, the Runner. Yeah.

To be honest, did you know that I had no idea about anything of Chris Benoît until our coworker, Mike Greer, wore a T-shirt that had his name on it? Yeah. I can believe that. I had no idea of any of that story.

I bought a shirt for one of my friends one time, a Chris Benoît crossface crippler shirt, and I thought it was funny, and then we both realized he's never going to wear it. No. Yeah, never.

One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun, because Aaron Rodgers said he bet a year's salary that Ryan Braun was clean. That was awesome.

That's a good one.

They owned a restaurant together.

Rafael Palmero. It's just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and he said, Let me be very clear. Then it turns out they did it.

braided Anderson is another one that play on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like, I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year. It was literally like 18, 18, 18, 50, 18. He played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year.Jules.Jules..

I had Jules on my list.

Jules is on my list, too. I'm not going to say the person I was about to say. What are you going to say? Because it's speculative. Who? It's a recurring guest on the show. Very nice guy. Oh, no. Very, very nice guy.

Text it to me.Jerry?I'll.

Text it to you. Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids. Jimmy Garoppolo. I forgot Jimmy G just got busted for using PEDs. It was some really bad PEDs.

Blake?

No.

No, come on. Brooks?

No. No.

He would never do that. I'm trying to think who else I have on my list.

Most of my names are all... I didn't have many. Who was it?

No, he didn't do it.

He probably didn't do it.

I'm so confused.

Carl Lewis. Was he?

Carl Lewis- Carl Everett. Carl Lewis won three gold medals. I think he won the 100 Meter Dash, three Olympics in a row.

And they got an adult braces.

That'd be 12 years. And then he got the adult... No one can win the Olympics three years in a row on the 100-metre dash.

Adult braces. We didn't both do it?

Probably, but he's a freak.

Tom Fornelly.

Yes. Tom Fornelly.

Yeah, he does them. Does steroids.

For sure does him. Have you seen his balls? Like, Great tax.

Good list, though. I feel good about it. Very good. You feel good about it? Who are you here for again, Hank?

Lance Armstrong, Brian Cushing. Great pick. Manny Ramirez, LeBron. I mean, how...

It's a good list. Hank is for sure going to tweet out a video of Brian Cushing bashing his skull tomorrow morning.

Or just like, Oh, been worn. Starbucks cup. Is this for Chicks?

Yeah. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Good show, boys. We'll do an open-ended one on Wednesday. Yeah. Get back to the open-ended ones. Tweet us any open-ended Mount Rushmore as you want us to do. Those are the fun ones that get.

This is a good one, though.

This was a good one. Good one to get back on track. All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. Hey, Max, have you ever got the lottery ball machine?

I've got the numbers. 20.

17.

3.

8.

42.

99.

21. 79.

Love you, guys.

Talking away.

I don't know what to say, I'll say it anyway.

Today is another day to find you. Shining away.

I'll be coming for your love of game.

Shining away.

I'll be

It's so needless to say. I've all sent in. But I feel so willing to wait. I'm slowly learning, but life is okay.

Stay off me.

It's your better to be safe and sorry.

Stay off me.

It's your better to be safe and sorry. Take on me. Take on me. Take me.

Oh, take All the things that you say, every little I will just leave my world be to wait.

You're all the things I've got to remember. Keep shying away, I'll be coming for you anyway. Keep shying away, I'll be coming for you anyway.

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