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This podcast is brought to you by eHarmony, the dating app to find someone you can be yourself people.Yeah.Ravenclaw's good answer.Ravenclaw's mid.You want to be. You want to be hufflepuff, right?Gryffindor. Well, it depends.I want to be slavery.Claws on a bad pic.Okay, Max, the wire.Never seen a single episode. That was one that's been on like, I have to watch this. I have to watch this.People are gonna hate this.Wires. Favorite show of all time. Watch it probably once a year.They're gonna hate.I have read the oral history, actually, of the wire.It's really good. Very good. So every season is good.Every character is great. There's no good guys. There's no bad guys. The bad guys are good. The good guys are bad.It's.It's incredible.Mm hmm.She.You don't know. Omar.Omar coming?No, no, not at all.Chain of command, McNulty. You say that all the time.I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough gifts from the show.See, I know nothing. Like, I don't even know if I. I probably have seen wire gifts. I would have no idea they're from the wire.You've definitely seen the gif of. Definitely of web a scratching his. His chair when he realizes something's.Or we.Oh, shit.Price of the brick went up.Let him know we back up.Yep.That one.You've done that one. That one sounds familiar.Yeah.Yeah, you've about him is, like, one. Everyone on our team loved him.Yeah.Hands down. He. He came out and told us everything. He said this what? I said this what? I've met guys, like, hopefully, you know me by now, how I feel about you, and we're like, okay. And we went on with our day. We didn't know it was gonna lead to.Yeah.What it led to.Yeah.And then I guess when you call a commissioner certain things.Yeah.It's probably not gonna end well.Yeah. That was kind of a cool line, though. Yeah.But. But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody. He would tell me going out to practice, he's like, look, I got. I'm gonna cuss you out, because I need to cuss somebody else out, and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped. I'm like, absolutely, dude.Yeah.Like, I don't care.Would he ever go, like, extra when you're like, all right.He would keep going, and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling. Yeah, he was great, because, like, he. As you guys see, like, all the clips of him doing that to guys, like, there's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him.Yeah.Any. Any free agent we would sign veteran. He would put, like, clips of them up in the team meeting, and he'd show, like, their three best plays, and he'd. He'd just be like, look at this dude. Dad, you're gonna play your best football for me. This is what we're gonna do, and I'm gonna put you in position, and, like, all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy.Yeah.You know? So he just. He doesn't get enough credit for that side of him.Yeah. Yeah.Would he just walk around muttering to himself, like, spider, two y, banana.Oh, yeah. Jeff Leonardo is, like, one of his, like, closest friends. Okay. And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said he'd make shirts. So we'd come in one day, and there'd just be, like, a picture of a spider and a banana. And so every day, it just. He would have sayings. He would literally be mumbling them to himself. And the next day, Jeff would have a shirt with it.I love it.It was great.He loved running. Spider two y banana.Absolutely. That was one of our favorites.Was there ever be like, what a cool thing that would be, like, just for our family, right. You know? And. And, like, he was like. I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, like, USC offers, like, it. I was like, man, screw that. You know, I told him. And sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this, but sure, yeah. You sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno.So it worked out.He's an all time football guy.It's my favorite.Yeah.Oh, my God.What was he like? Just like, day to day.You'll love this. Like, so this is, like, perfect. Pat Hill. He's aggressive.Yeah.You get what you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories my freshman year. We kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year, right? So I gotta learn how to play under center. I drop a snap, and he goes, that's it. Get in here. And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here. And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap, and then he think. And then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that. And then, like, later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice, and I go to take a snap in, like, nine on seven or half line run. And I say, hut. And they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger, and it's like, out like this. I put it back in. He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there. So I. Man, I went back in there. Broken finger. I handed the ball off right handed all day, but like, that was Pat's way of, like.Like, pushing you to become a man.Yeah.You know, and he did that, and it was great.Like, those Fresno teams. Like, he. He basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone. We know. We're not on the same level talent wise, but it doesn't matter.We'll go play football, and it's beautiful.Yeah.And it worked for him.Yeah.You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday.Yeah. Yeah.And talk about spamming plays. There's probably a lot of, like, Devontae's down there somewhere.Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team, and literally at the coin toss, this was when me and Tay were, like, at our peak, before the game, we're throwing routes, and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from, like, the back 40. Like, threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goal post. Like, they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss, and, like, they had a couple dbs, and they're like, please take it easy.Honestly.Jeez.I believe it, though.Oh, yeah.Yeah. You guys were electric.What was the. The scouting process, like, for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why'd you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff. Like, yeah, they're trying to find any. Any bit of mental weakness that you have.Yeah, 100%. And, like, they. They picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How you gonna play against the NFL? And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against, you know, this guy's in the league that played Bobby Wagner, you know, like, all these guys. And so, like, as I understand, I didn't play in SEC, but this was my choice to go to school. I love, and hopefully that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.Right.Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations?I never talked to Mark. No, not before. Not before. Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olsen.He seems like the coolest guy ever.Yeah. Have you ever gone to PF Chang's with him?I never went to PF Chang's, but he was there every day.Yeah, I know. We want it. We want, like, that's our dream, is to go to PF Chang's with Mark Davis.He would absolutely.Yeah.He has to do that. I know he's there. So it's easy for.Right. We should just show up. Drives a little van around, drives a little van.He's got a little mini coop. He's got. He's got a lot of cars.Yeah.Yeah. But that guy, he's. I'll tell you this, man, like Mark was. Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me. You know, he is, like, the biggest critic of his football team, but at the same time, nobody loves him more. Right, right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me, you know, why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come, like, from that football, like, you know, coaching background, and so he just wants to understand the why.Yeah.And so, you know, as he keeps surrounding himself, you know, Tom's there now in the ownership, and it looked like Seymour may join and all that. Like, as he keeps surrounding himself with, like, football people and all that and understanding that the process and that, I think that they'll have more success.Yeah.And so.And he also just swagged as hell.I freaking love it. The white, all white.All white is such a good look. Oh, yeah, the haircut. Yeah. I mean, you. It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.He told me. He's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's, I'm by your car. I was like, all right. Sick. Like, do you. I need to take it out thanks to Viator. Last year, we did a little riverboat cruise in Chicago. Got to know the city. Viator is a tool that you can use. To plan and book travel experiences all around the world. The app and website make it easy to explore 300,000 plus travel experiences so you can discover whats out there no matter where you're traveling and what you're interested in. If you're planning a late July vacation, August vacation, go into Vitor. See what Vitor has to offer in the city that you're traveling to. They can get you hooked up with great experiences, perfect travel experiences for you. They have free cancelation. It helps you plan for the unexpected and 300,000 plus travel experiences to choose from. 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And now here's more.Derek Carr speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown that week? Was it a week?So me and ab, I loved ab. You know, I loved ab, even at the end. And like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle a B. I was like, you know what? You're probably right.Like, wait, that also is like, kind of telling on himself. Like, couldn't handle Ab. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?You're probably was two weeks.Yeah, yeah.But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.Yeah.I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.Wow.He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.Yeah.And then his trainer comes out.Yeah.Ab's done today.Yeah.I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.Yeah, right, right.You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?I did see his feet.Were they. Were they messed up?They were messed up.Wait, how do you get frostbite?It was like, in a cryo bathroom.Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.Yeah, I didn't either.They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.Yeah.I didn't walk in there and do that.Yeah.There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.Awesome.Yeah, it was great.He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.Yes.Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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Yeah.

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Ravenclaw's good answer.

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Ravenclaw's mid.

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You want to be. You want to be hufflepuff, right?

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Gryffindor. Well, it depends.

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I want to be slavery.

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Claws on a bad pic.

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Okay, Max, the wire.

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Never seen a single episode. That was one that's been on like, I have to watch this. I have to watch this.

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Wires. Favorite show of all time. Watch it probably once a year.

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It's really good. Very good. So every season is good.

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Every character is great. There's no good guys. There's no bad guys. The bad guys are good. The good guys are bad.

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Chain of command, McNulty. You say that all the time.

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I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough gifts from the show.

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See, I know nothing. Like, I don't even know if I. I probably have seen wire gifts. I would have no idea they're from the wire.

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Yeah, you've about him is, like, one. Everyone on our team loved him.Yeah.Hands down. He. He came out and told us everything. He said this what? I said this what? I've met guys, like, hopefully, you know me by now, how I feel about you, and we're like, okay. And we went on with our day. We didn't know it was gonna lead to.Yeah.What it led to.Yeah.And then I guess when you call a commissioner certain things.Yeah.It's probably not gonna end well.Yeah. That was kind of a cool line, though. Yeah.But. But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody. He would tell me going out to practice, he's like, look, I got. I'm gonna cuss you out, because I need to cuss somebody else out, and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped. I'm like, absolutely, dude.Yeah.Like, I don't care.Would he ever go, like, extra when you're like, all right.He would keep going, and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling. Yeah, he was great, because, like, he. As you guys see, like, all the clips of him doing that to guys, like, there's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him.Yeah.Any. Any free agent we would sign veteran. He would put, like, clips of them up in the team meeting, and he'd show, like, their three best plays, and he'd. He'd just be like, look at this dude. Dad, you're gonna play your best football for me. This is what we're gonna do, and I'm gonna put you in position, and, like, all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy.Yeah.You know? So he just. He doesn't get enough credit for that side of him.Yeah. Yeah.Would he just walk around muttering to himself, like, spider, two y, banana.Oh, yeah. Jeff Leonardo is, like, one of his, like, closest friends. Okay. And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said he'd make shirts. So we'd come in one day, and there'd just be, like, a picture of a spider and a banana. And so every day, it just. He would have sayings. He would literally be mumbling them to himself. And the next day, Jeff would have a shirt with it.I love it.It was great.He loved running. Spider two y banana.Absolutely. That was one of our favorites.Was there ever be like, what a cool thing that would be, like, just for our family, right. You know? And. And, like, he was like. I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, like, USC offers, like, it. I was like, man, screw that. You know, I told him. And sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this, but sure, yeah. You sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno.So it worked out.He's an all time football guy.It's my favorite.Yeah.Oh, my God.What was he like? Just like, day to day.You'll love this. Like, so this is, like, perfect. Pat Hill. He's aggressive.Yeah.You get what you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories my freshman year. We kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year, right? So I gotta learn how to play under center. I drop a snap, and he goes, that's it. Get in here. And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here. And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap, and then he think. And then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that. And then, like, later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice, and I go to take a snap in, like, nine on seven or half line run. And I say, hut. And they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger, and it's like, out like this. I put it back in. He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there. So I. Man, I went back in there. Broken finger. I handed the ball off right handed all day, but like, that was Pat's way of, like.Like, pushing you to become a man.Yeah.You know, and he did that, and it was great.Like, those Fresno teams. Like, he. He basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone. We know. We're not on the same level talent wise, but it doesn't matter.We'll go play football, and it's beautiful.Yeah.And it worked for him.Yeah.You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday.Yeah. Yeah.And talk about spamming plays. There's probably a lot of, like, Devontae's down there somewhere.Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team, and literally at the coin toss, this was when me and Tay were, like, at our peak, before the game, we're throwing routes, and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from, like, the back 40. Like, threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goal post. Like, they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss, and, like, they had a couple dbs, and they're like, please take it easy.Honestly.Jeez.I believe it, though.Oh, yeah.Yeah. You guys were electric.What was the. The scouting process, like, for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why'd you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff. Like, yeah, they're trying to find any. Any bit of mental weakness that you have.Yeah, 100%. And, like, they. They picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How you gonna play against the NFL? And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against, you know, this guy's in the league that played Bobby Wagner, you know, like, all these guys. And so, like, as I understand, I didn't play in SEC, but this was my choice to go to school. I love, and hopefully that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.Right.Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations?I never talked to Mark. No, not before. Not before. Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olsen.He seems like the coolest guy ever.Yeah. Have you ever gone to PF Chang's with him?I never went to PF Chang's, but he was there every day.Yeah, I know. We want it. We want, like, that's our dream, is to go to PF Chang's with Mark Davis.He would absolutely.Yeah.He has to do that. I know he's there. So it's easy for.Right. We should just show up. Drives a little van around, drives a little van.He's got a little mini coop. He's got. He's got a lot of cars.Yeah.Yeah. But that guy, he's. I'll tell you this, man, like Mark was. Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me. You know, he is, like, the biggest critic of his football team, but at the same time, nobody loves him more. Right, right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me, you know, why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come, like, from that football, like, you know, coaching background, and so he just wants to understand the why.Yeah.And so, you know, as he keeps surrounding himself, you know, Tom's there now in the ownership, and it looked like Seymour may join and all that. Like, as he keeps surrounding himself with, like, football people and all that and understanding that the process and that, I think that they'll have more success.Yeah.And so.And he also just swagged as hell.I freaking love it. The white, all white.All white is such a good look. Oh, yeah, the haircut. Yeah. I mean, you. It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.He told me. He's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's, I'm by your car. I was like, all right. Sick. Like, do you. I need to take it out thanks to Viator. 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I was like, you know what? You're probably right.Like, wait, that also is like, kind of telling on himself. Like, couldn't handle Ab. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?You're probably was two weeks.Yeah, yeah.But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.Yeah.I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.Wow.He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.Yeah.And then his trainer comes out.Yeah.Ab's done today.Yeah.I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.Yeah, right, right.You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?I did see his feet.Were they. Were they messed up?They were messed up.Wait, how do you get frostbite?It was like, in a cryo bathroom.Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.Yeah, I didn't either.They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.Yeah.I didn't walk in there and do that.Yeah.There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.Awesome.Yeah, it was great.He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.Yes.Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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Any. Any free agent we would sign veteran. He would put, like, clips of them up in the team meeting, and he'd show, like, their three best plays, and he'd. He'd just be like, look at this dude. Dad, you're gonna play your best football for me. This is what we're gonna do, and I'm gonna put you in position, and, like, all of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy.

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Was there ever be like, what a cool thing that would be, like, just for our family, right. You know? And. And, like, he was like. I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, like, USC offers, like, it. I was like, man, screw that. You know, I told him. And sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this, but sure, yeah. You sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno.So it worked out.He's an all time football guy.It's my favorite.Yeah.Oh, my God.What was he like? Just like, day to day.You'll love this. Like, so this is, like, perfect. Pat Hill. He's aggressive.Yeah.You get what you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories my freshman year. We kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year, right? So I gotta learn how to play under center. I drop a snap, and he goes, that's it. Get in here. And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here. And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap, and then he think. And then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that. And then, like, later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice, and I go to take a snap in, like, nine on seven or half line run. And I say, hut. And they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger, and it's like, out like this. I put it back in. He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there. So I. Man, I went back in there. Broken finger. I handed the ball off right handed all day, but like, that was Pat's way of, like.Like, pushing you to become a man.Yeah.You know, and he did that, and it was great.Like, those Fresno teams. Like, he. He basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone. We know. We're not on the same level talent wise, but it doesn't matter.We'll go play football, and it's beautiful.Yeah.And it worked for him.Yeah.You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday.Yeah. Yeah.And talk about spamming plays. There's probably a lot of, like, Devontae's down there somewhere.Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team, and literally at the coin toss, this was when me and Tay were, like, at our peak, before the game, we're throwing routes, and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from, like, the back 40. Like, threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goal post. Like, they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss, and, like, they had a couple dbs, and they're like, please take it easy.Honestly.Jeez.I believe it, though.Oh, yeah.Yeah. You guys were electric.What was the. The scouting process, like, for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why'd you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff. Like, yeah, they're trying to find any. Any bit of mental weakness that you have.Yeah, 100%. And, like, they. They picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How you gonna play against the NFL? And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against, you know, this guy's in the league that played Bobby Wagner, you know, like, all these guys. And so, like, as I understand, I didn't play in SEC, but this was my choice to go to school. I love, and hopefully that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.Right.Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations?I never talked to Mark. No, not before. Not before. Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olsen.He seems like the coolest guy ever.Yeah. Have you ever gone to PF Chang's with him?I never went to PF Chang's, but he was there every day.Yeah, I know. We want it. We want, like, that's our dream, is to go to PF Chang's with Mark Davis.He would absolutely.Yeah.He has to do that. I know he's there. So it's easy for.Right. We should just show up. Drives a little van around, drives a little van.He's got a little mini coop. He's got. He's got a lot of cars.Yeah.Yeah. But that guy, he's. I'll tell you this, man, like Mark was. Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me. You know, he is, like, the biggest critic of his football team, but at the same time, nobody loves him more. Right, right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me, you know, why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come, like, from that football, like, you know, coaching background, and so he just wants to understand the why.Yeah.And so, you know, as he keeps surrounding himself, you know, Tom's there now in the ownership, and it looked like Seymour may join and all that. Like, as he keeps surrounding himself with, like, football people and all that and understanding that the process and that, I think that they'll have more success.Yeah.And so.And he also just swagged as hell.I freaking love it. The white, all white.All white is such a good look. Oh, yeah, the haircut. Yeah. I mean, you. It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.He told me. He's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's, I'm by your car. I was like, all right. Sick. Like, do you. I need to take it out thanks to Viator. Last year, we did a little riverboat cruise in Chicago. Got to know the city. Viator is a tool that you can use. To plan and book travel experiences all around the world. The app and website make it easy to explore 300,000 plus travel experiences so you can discover whats out there no matter where you're traveling and what you're interested in. If you're planning a late July vacation, August vacation, go into Vitor. See what Vitor has to offer in the city that you're traveling to. They can get you hooked up with great experiences, perfect travel experiences for you. They have free cancelation. It helps you plan for the unexpected and 300,000 plus travel experiences to choose from. It means that you can plan something that everyone that you're traveling with will enjoy. They also have 24/7 customer service so you can know that you'll get support at any hour if things aren't going as planned. And they have real traveler reviews so you get to hear inside information from the people who've already been on the experience that you're considering.Download the Vitor app now. Use code Vitor ten for 10% off your first booking in the app. Find travel experiences for you. Do more with Viator. Download the Vitor app now. Use code Vitor ten for 10% off your first booking in the app. Derek cards also brought to you by our great friends over at Keeps. That's right, keeps helps men reclaim their identity. 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Some of these other hair loss treatments doesn't smell good. Keeps us good smelling stuff for sure. Results may vary. Not offered in every state. Medications prescribed only if clinically appropriate. Consultation required. And now here's more.Derek Carr speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown that week? Was it a week?So me and ab, I loved ab. You know, I loved ab, even at the end. And like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle a B. I was like, you know what? You're probably right.Like, wait, that also is like, kind of telling on himself. Like, couldn't handle Ab. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?You're probably was two weeks.Yeah, yeah.But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.Yeah.I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.Wow.He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.Yeah.And then his trainer comes out.Yeah.Ab's done today.Yeah.I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.Yeah, right, right.You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?I did see his feet.Were they. Were they messed up?They were messed up.Wait, how do you get frostbite?It was like, in a cryo bathroom.Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.Yeah, I didn't either.They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.Yeah.I didn't walk in there and do that.Yeah.There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.Awesome.Yeah, it was great.He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.Yes.Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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be like, what a cool thing that would be, like, just for our family, right. You know? And. And, like, he was like. I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, like, USC offers, like, it. I was like, man, screw that. You know, I told him. And sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this, but sure, yeah. You sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno.

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So it worked out.

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He's an all time football guy.

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It's my favorite.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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What was he like? Just like, day to day.

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You'll love this. Like, so this is, like, perfect. Pat Hill. He's aggressive.

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You get what you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories my freshman year. We kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year, right? So I gotta learn how to play under center. I drop a snap, and he goes, that's it. Get in here. And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here. And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap, and then he think. And then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that. And then, like, later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice, and I go to take a snap in, like, nine on seven or half line run. And I say, hut. And they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger, and it's like, out like this. I put it back in. He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there. So I. Man, I went back in there. Broken finger. I handed the ball off right handed all day, but like, that was Pat's way of, like.

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Like, pushing you to become a man.

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You know, and he did that, and it was great.

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Like, those Fresno teams. Like, he. He basically was like, we're not afraid of anyone. We know. We're not on the same level talent wise, but it doesn't matter.

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We'll go play football, and it's beautiful.

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And it worked for him.

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You know, and hopefully we can bring that back someday.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And talk about spamming plays. There's probably a lot of, like, Devontae's down there somewhere.

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Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team, and literally at the coin toss, this was when me and Tay were, like, at our peak, before the game, we're throwing routes, and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from, like, the back 40. Like, threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goal post. Like, they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss, and, like, they had a couple dbs, and they're like, please take it easy.

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Honestly.

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Jeez.

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I believe it, though.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. You guys were electric.

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What was the. The scouting process, like, for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why'd you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff. Like, yeah, they're trying to find any. Any bit of mental weakness that you have.

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Yeah, 100%. And, like, they. They picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How you gonna play against the NFL? And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against, you know, this guy's in the league that played Bobby Wagner, you know, like, all these guys. And so, like, as I understand, I didn't play in SEC, but this was my choice to go to school. I love, and hopefully that just bruised my loyalty and what I'll do for a team.

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Right.

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Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations?

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I never talked to Mark. No, not before. Not before. Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olsen.

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He seems like the coolest guy ever.

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Yeah. Have you ever gone to PF Chang's with him?

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I never went to PF Chang's, but he was there every day.

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Yeah, I know. We want it. We want, like, that's our dream, is to go to PF Chang's with Mark Davis.

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He would absolutely.

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Yeah.

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He has to do that. I know he's there. So it's easy for.

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Right. We should just show up. Drives a little van around, drives a little van.

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He's got a little mini coop. He's got. He's got a lot of cars.

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Yeah. But that guy, he's. I'll tell you this, man, like Mark was. Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me. You know, he is, like, the biggest critic of his football team, but at the same time, nobody loves him more. Right, right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me, you know, why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come, like, from that football, like, you know, coaching background, and so he just wants to understand the why.

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Yeah.

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And so, you know, as he keeps surrounding himself, you know, Tom's there now in the ownership, and it looked like Seymour may join and all that. Like, as he keeps surrounding himself with, like, football people and all that and understanding that the process and that, I think that they'll have more success.

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And so.

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And he also just swagged as hell.

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I freaking love it. The white, all white.

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All white is such a good look. Oh, yeah, the haircut. Yeah. I mean, you. It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off.

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He told me. He's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's, I'm by your car. I was like, all right. Sick. Like, do you. I need to take it out thanks to Viator. Last year, we did a little riverboat cruise in Chicago. Got to know the city. Viator is a tool that you can use. To plan and book travel experiences all around the world. The app and website make it easy to explore 300,000 plus travel experiences so you can discover whats out there no matter where you're traveling and what you're interested in. If you're planning a late July vacation, August vacation, go into Vitor. See what Vitor has to offer in the city that you're traveling to. They can get you hooked up with great experiences, perfect travel experiences for you. They have free cancelation. It helps you plan for the unexpected and 300,000 plus travel experiences to choose from. It means that you can plan something that everyone that you're traveling with will enjoy. 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Was it a week?So me and ab, I loved ab. You know, I loved ab, even at the end. And like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle a B. I was like, you know what? You're probably right.Like, wait, that also is like, kind of telling on himself. Like, couldn't handle Ab. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?You're probably was two weeks.Yeah, yeah.But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.Yeah.I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.Wow.He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.Yeah.And then his trainer comes out.Yeah.Ab's done today.Yeah.I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.Yeah, right, right.You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?I did see his feet.Were they. Were they messed up?They were messed up.Wait, how do you get frostbite?It was like, in a cryo bathroom.Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.Yeah, I didn't either.They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.Yeah.I didn't walk in there and do that.Yeah.There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.Awesome.Yeah, it was great.He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.Yes.Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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Derek Carr speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown that week? Was it a week?

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So me and ab, I loved ab. You know, I loved ab, even at the end. And like, he was like, you know, Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle a B. I was like, you know what? You're probably right.

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Like, wait, that also is like, kind of telling on himself. Like, couldn't handle Ab. It's like, well, dude, like, could you just tone it down?

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You're probably was two weeks.Yeah, yeah.But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.Yeah.I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.Wow.He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.Yeah.And then his trainer comes out.Yeah.Ab's done today.Yeah.I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.Yeah, right, right.You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?I did see his feet.Were they. Were they messed up?They were messed up.Wait, how do you get frostbite?It was like, in a cryo bathroom.Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.Yeah, I didn't either.They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.Yeah.I didn't walk in there and do that.Yeah.There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.Awesome.Yeah, it was great.He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.Yes.Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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was two weeks.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But we had a lot of time together throwing and. But my man, there's so many freaking stories.

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Yeah, I mean, the hard knocks is like, it was just an electric hard knocks.

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My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? Like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice.

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Yeah.

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I'll never forget he came. He comes out to practice the first time after all that, he comes out in training camp, he runs a post corner and usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about, you know, 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh, crap. I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it. Ah, it goes like this and to nobody.

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Wow.

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He comes running back, he's like, let's go again. So throw me a go. He goes over there, runs a go round. I launched this go route. He freaking takes off. Touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru, I'm like, bro, I'm. I might throw for 6000 yards. Him, Waller, all these crap.

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Yeah.

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And then his trainer comes out.

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Yeah.

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Ab's done today.

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Yeah.

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I was like, perfect. Just get him to Sunday.

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Yeah, right, right.

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You gotta bury the lead on that, though. Did you ever see his feet?

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I did see his feet.

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Were they. Were they messed up?

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They were messed up.

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Wait, how do you get frostbite?

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It was like, in a cryo bathroom.

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Maybe wet socks in a. Which. I did not know that was a thing.

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Yeah, I didn't either.

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They. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad.

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Yeah.

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I didn't walk in there and do that.

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Yeah.

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There was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon and.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, it was great.

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He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet.

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Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock.

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Yes.

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Okay. So it was Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on get a grip and ping proving grounds. He's got a book, the golfer zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through. And we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a. I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but royal troon, give us the background of royal Trune, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love at the open championship.

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Yes. So I got, I went over to Scotland after college, big cat. And actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer that was like my job out of college. And I went and played real true and didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me. And I said, this is my favorite links course that I played to this point. So I love it. This is its 10th Open championship. It's hosted first this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.I get it now.Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.How do you say my bad.Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.Yeah.Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast. For the most part. The Masters is a Super bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL.

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Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the US Opens kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you got to go back to 2010 with Rory. The opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just so much unpredictability going into this week, and what we should expect from Roy played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at rural truant, considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there.

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I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy.

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I get it now.

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Yeah. Like, you don't know. You don't know if there's so. Yeah, if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense, or there's just a little bit of snow. So it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.

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Yeah, it was. It was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, that. Oh, shit, that makes sense. So, if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, Lashawn McCoy was, like, the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the lashawn McCoy of. Of golf who can play the best in the worst conditions?

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I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously, he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day, or Jack. Sorry. Jack. Nick. Loss. Right.

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How do you say my bad.

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Sorry. The famous golfer. But, you know, you think back to the way Jack kind of approached major championships. You said anybody that was a complainer at the US Open, I knew I could beat. I feel like Brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going, I hope it blows. I hope it's nasty. And if it's not, that's fine, too. I can still shoot 65.

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Yeah.

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Can you. Can you do a comparison for Bryson Decham? What NFL player would he be?

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I mean. I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson, where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one. The one Super bowl. Right. And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson, I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played pioneers. He's not winning at pioneers three years ago, but he's changed his game, and he's kind of opened his mind up to play in different types of golf when it asked. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways, so that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players?

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Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at pine earths all over the place? Speaker two.

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So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but, like, I've been reading about, like, who to bet on and who has a good chance. And the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles, you know, down the. Down the course. That, like, speaking about a Rory, like, he. His. His biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it. Is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it, the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win? Yeah. The.

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The PJ championship and the US Open have kind of become an even. I mean, even Augusta national, for that matter. I mean, you She got you engaged by renting?Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.Oh, she's already got a bearden.Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.Male.Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?Ah, yeah. You gotta be.This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.Yeah.Like, she's on.Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.Yeah, she's got her.She's got her vision board.You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.Yeah.All right, last one.Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?Actually, no worries.Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?No. No. Usually it's like best friend.Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.Yes.Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.No.I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.Yeah.And do not go.And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.Yeah.Feels like you were halfway there.Yeah. Step one.Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.38, 56.This is gonna be 20 today.No, it's three.I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?I picked eight.How about 23?355.Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.Good luck.Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.Things?Let me say.My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?Take on me?Take me on? I begunchannel.

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She got you engaged by renting?

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Yeah, but those things fill up, so she had. She acted fast, but, yeah, that's. I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's gonna, like, she's gonna name your. Your children before you're pregnant kind of thing.

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Oh, she's already got a bearden.

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Yeah, that is that always a weird thing to do?

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There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature, with your boyfriend's last name.

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Yeah. My third child went almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know.

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Male.

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Because it was like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, I would toss. We were tossing around different names. Then finally, when we, like, had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital.

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So I'm curious just from her perspective. D do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged?

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Ah, yeah. You gotta be.

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This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married.

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Yeah.

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Like, she's on.

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Yeah, she's got. She's trying to. Yeah, yeah, no, she's. She's already got the. She's already probably got a house picked out where the baby room is gonna be, everything.

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Yeah, she's got her.

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She's got her vision board.

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You got to propose to him. And he just hasn't said yes yet.

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Yeah.

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All right, last one.

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Not that we don't want him. We don't want you to break up.

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At what point? At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like, he hasn't. He hasn't asked me yet.

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Oh, she's definitely like, also, who goes ring shot?

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Actually, no worries.

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Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?

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No. No. Usually it's like best friend.

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Yeah, we just went ring shopping, but also, pft. I think I thought that's the whole point.

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She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what would you ask or not? Yeah, we're getting there.

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There's gonna be some tough questions you'll have to answer come thanksgiving.

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Yes.

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Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes.

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My last one, my boyfriend plays in beer league hockey, and we first started dating, I went to everyone believe with life stuff. I haven't gone much. The last fee I went to was the only last fee. Last time I got. Last time. Last time I went, last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference? No, they're not.

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No.

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I feel like when I asked my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad not going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. The last times I was the only girl.

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Yeah.

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And do not go.

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And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking?

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Yeah. Do not go. There's. I don't. Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.

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Guys want to know athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them, being like, you are not athletic.

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And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, you want to grab a beer after. Yes.

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And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lie to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that.

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And they also want to be, they want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with my, with the team after. I'll be home in a little bit. And have six beers and be home in a lot of it.

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Yeah. He wants the freedom to. To go on, like, a road trip with his beer league and sleep, like, six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until, like, 05:00 in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home?

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Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness.

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Yeah.

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Feels like you were halfway there.

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Yeah. Step one.

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Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. But on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers.

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38, 56.

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This is gonna be 20 today.

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No, it's three.

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I'm picking number three. I'm thinking 20. Shane, pug. 21. How about just 199 DFC did you pick?

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I picked eight.

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How about 23?

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355.

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Oh, my God. That would have been awesome.

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Good luck.

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Me? Take me out? I begun? Life is okay? Say after me? It's not better to be safe than sorry? Take on me? Take me out? I begun.

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Things?

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Let me say.

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My worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember? I'll be coming for you anyway?

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Take on me?

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Take me on? I begun

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channel.