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Nothing. No, no. Game two. Blues for the Celtics, for the city of Boston.

Ass kicking.

Jalen Brown. Is he, is Jalen Brown the guy?

He took it personally. Hank actually says it. So we taped Rachel Nichols in the afternoon and Hank predicted it. You can see it. He said it all. He was been saying for the last day. He was going to get upset about the fact that he wasn't on the all NBA teams and he was going to go off. He scored 40. Jalen Brown might be the guy.

I can definitely smell a narrative that's building. There are going to be people that ask, like, is Jalen Brown really the leader of this team? Is he the best player in the scene? And aside from the player, efficiency ratings, scoring, field goal percentage and defense, and dribbling with your wind shares and all the other advanced stats, except for all those, he is the best player on the team.

Yeah. And Jalen Brown was incredible. Jason Tatum was incredible.

Bad first quarter.

I love that game being like, oh my God, he only has twelve points in the first quarter. He's doing so bad.

He's joking with you.

You were so ready for it. And then showed up in the third and fourth quarter.

Yeah, when the 20.

Edwards didn't even score 20 points last night.

I was going to mention that, but.

Yeah, it was a great game. Jalen Brown, I knew it the second they announced the All NBA teams. People call the Celtics a super team. They had one player on the. On the All NBA team.

Oh, you love that.

It's a snub. It was an absolutely a snub. They're the best team in the league.

They.

Wait, are they recording?

Clearly not. How can you be a super team with one person on the all.

Good point. He makes a good point.

They were the best team in the league. Jalen Brown, all star, super Max, deserves it all. Should have been at least, at least 13. Probably should have been second team, great defender, two way player. The second that got announced, I knew he was going to go off tonight. I knew he was going to take it personally. I. I say it later in the Rachel. Nick. Rachel Nichols interview, he's going to drop 40 piece. And he did.

I think they're a super team, but not a super team there.

Yeah. They're. They're a fantastic team.

Yeah.

Two. No, game two curse reversed.

And.

Yeah, we're on to. We're on to, I guess, Dallas.

I don't know. That's.

It's probably earlier for that, but I do think that they're going to beat the Pacers.

The Pacers, who, again, that bold take.

No, I'm saying like crazy in game three. I think it might even be a sweep because Halliburton's probably not going to play.

Halliburton.

He's got. He's got a hamstring, and he seems it would be tough to come back from hamstring.

He might. It's probably real. But I've also felt like Halliburton's injuries kind of pop up whenever they're down 20 points.

If that's the case, then they've got a better shot because I don't know who they're going to have playing defense. Nimhard. Is Nimhard going to play defense against. It's Jalen Brown.

Yeah. I mean, this is nismeth.

Their best players are former Celtic.

Yeah. By the way, you. You emptied the bench tonight, which I wish.

I know Max is not here. I know.

O'shea. Brissette O'Shea.

Can you see?

Had two points. He has two more points in the conference finals than Joel beat. That's.

Wait, you mean this year?

No, all time. Oh, Facetime. Just that. Just tell him. Just tell him that stat, because he'll just get upset. But, yeah, he's not here. Hank, I have. Yeah, this series is over, and I have another reason for. For why this series is over. Hank, I don't know if you saw this story. Are you facetiming Max? By the way, we're also taping about to be in second overtime. Connor McDavid could have won this game very easily.

If. If he could have scored the big one, then he could have won the big one.

All he had to do is not double clutch that. Just fucking put it in. Dude. Wasn't ready for the moment. Oh, Max.

Speaking of not ready for the moment.

Not ready for the moment. He's not ready for the moment.

He's answered as many Facetimes as Joel. Embiid has points in the conference finals.

Yes, that's a fact.

Pip hip.

Hey, step when everybody on a pip.

Pip him. No, Hank. If he reason why this series is over is after the game. Rick Carlisle thanked the Boston police for escorting the Pacers team bus today, cutting their commute down from 50 minutes. Oh, go ahead.

Hey, Max.

Henry.

Hey, Henry Lockwood here. Part of my Take podcast. We're just doing the show, talking about stats and Dan Big cat cats host, one of the co hosts. One of the three co hosts apart. Interesting stat that we wanted to call you and let you know that O'Shaper set that.

That stupid guy who has more points.

In conference finals points.

And Joel Embiid.

Yeah, I saw it.

Oh, so. So you. So you did see it?

I was literally looking at it.

At.

Yes, I saw.

I was looking at and getting mad. When you called you favorite it.

Did you retweet it?

No, somebody tagged me, and it was.

Like, hey, big cat, make sure you.

Send this stat to Max. I don't give a fuck.

Yeah.

Conference finals.

Do you think that O'Shea Brusette.

Clearly not the Sixers.

Do you think the Sixers could. You think the Sixers should build their team around O'Shea Brissette? He can perform in the playoffs. Deep into the playoffs. That.

He would be great.

He has more points than with a nut.

With another. Another.

That was Fleming.

Early onset Fleming. You just did another.

I said another.

What was 25, like six and seven?

Is that 23 points?

Yeah. If Joel Embiid had that stat line.

People, in a win, he did go one for seven from three six in the first quarter, and he went nine for 20 from the field.

We were ready with these stats.

It's insane.

Yeah.

All right, Max.

Yeah. It doesn't hit the same when they. When they win. No.

When they win impressively.

Yeah, it's tough. All right, so back to my stat. Why this series is over. Rick Carlisle, after the game, said that the Boston police. He thanked the Boston police for escorting the Pacers team bus today, saying they cut down the commute from 50 minutes in game one to seven minutes today. Do you think there's any chance if the Boston Celtics or the Boston police thought the Pacers posed any type of threat, they would escort them and give them that type of treatment. That is a full sign that they know this series is over, because that's like a classic. They could just be like, you know what? You find your way to the game, we'll let you guys miss. Shoot around a little bit. They don't even have to do those kind of tricks. They just know it's over.

One thing I've learned about the Boston police Department, they are very much involved in Boston sports. There's that got that cop that's always, like, in Fenway park and right center field. Yeah, that guy.

I went down the slide.

The guy that went down the slide which got the video that somehow.

Went down the slide.

All time video.

And.

And then there's always a cop that's like, basically in the Celtics team huddle on the sideline that. That cops got the best job in the world.

Would you all.

I'll play for the Celtics also maybe as a respect.

Right. But would you agree with my assessment, like, if. That if this was a series, if they were playing the Lakers, if they were playing the Sixers, if they were playing the next.

Are you. Are you bringing up the. There was a podcast about the LeBron game six heat game.

No, I didn't see this where, like, it was.

I think it was a. Not Birdman Mike Miller maybe.

Okay.

It was Mike Miller and Shane Baddie a talking about it. And he was like, LeBron was pissed because they, like, delayed our bus and took us forever.

Right.

To shoot around.

So that's it, right? Like, that's a game that you have to be like, all right, we might not be able to beat the heat. This is. This series is over.

On the other hand, if you're the police department giving them an escort to the game, I feel like seven minutes isn't even long enough for you to get comfortable at a bus. Yeah, you don't. You can't listen to your full pregame, like, playlist that you have for yourself.

You got to finish in the locker room. Hank, are you now. So this series is over, right? Yeah. Okay.

They might lose one.

How are you feeling about this finals? Because it really, like, in a weird way, it's. It's just getting juicier and juicier. Oh, yeah.

Well, it's like, I want.

I want everyone who says that the cells have played no one. The Celts don't win, like, haha, told you so. And then you have the opposite where you can be like, fuck all of you. You know, we beat the west. We. We steamrolled through the east. Go fuck yourself.

Exactly.

Right.

Only play with who's in front of you. I just don't. I flip flop. I flip flop.

Abs and wolves. Yeah, just as long as it's not the nuggets.

Exactly.

Right.

Beating Kyrie would be nice, but then there's a little bit of like, scariness of, like, could, you know, does he know the, you know, Jason and Jalen, who's played with them in their younger days and other secrets. Could he, you know, can he stop that against us?

Knows this.

But also, if we beat the Mavericks, and then it would kind of shut you up with. You're like, luca, don't play left in the years.

That's just.

I know, but it would be nice to just be like, well, if he's the best player in the playoffs, why didn't he win?

Because you might not have the best team.

Right, but like that.

I never said that. I never said that. The best players always. The best player always wins. I said the best player. People writing all that he math.

He should would still be, if he was the best player, he'd still be MVP, probably.

No, but we're gonna have gaslighting mean. You're also taking out all of my. Everything I said out of context and trying to rearrange all my thoughts. I didn't say he's, first of all, he wasn't the best. He's not the best player in the NBA. I never said that. I said he's the best player left in the playoffs with four teams left.

And you took offense to that, by the way.

You took offense to that. And then the best team. The best player doesn't mean necessarily they will win the championship. I said the best player.

No, I'm with Hank. I disagree, too. Can Luca win the big one?

The best player. Having the best player means that they should never be written off, which was what was happening with a lot of people being like, the Wolves. And the Nuggets will beat the Mavs in five games, which I guess they still could. Back to your points, even though you just butchered where everything I said just.

Oh, I'm just, I'm just, I'm focused. Focused on the Western Conference focus.

You're thinking about what I said three days ago.

No, just thinking about what would be sweeter.

I think it'd be sweeter to be mavericks for.

No, no, there's. There's many reasons.

It'd be way sweeter to be Kerry. But you're also afraid of Kyrie.

I'm a little bit more afraid of Kyrie.

Then you have a healthy respect for Kyrie.

You're not afraid of. Luca is better than him.

I don't know. We got the horses, man. We got the horses.

Got the horses. They are very seldom very good.

It's also people bring up the warriors team. It's like we have drew holiday into christophs pro zing. It's like they were not on the team and they're significant parts of this team.

And you will keep saying that and you will have the reverse where you will have the most experience.

Mm hmm.

Where's you didn't against the warriors.

Mm hmm.

So ready to go. You're still upset about the Luca. I'm not upset saying Luca. So let's talk about this, because I, watching that game on Wednesday night, incredible game. It was a little satisfying, even though I do have a future on the Wolves and I picked the Wolves in seven. It was satisfying to watch Luca take over that game in the fourth quarter because people forgot about Luca and the hanks of the world. And the Wolves fans of the world think that if you say Luca Doncic is the best player left in the playoffs, you're saying Anthony Edwards or Jason Tatum sucks, which is not at all what I'm saying. I'm just saying Luka Donchic, what he did on Wednesday night is why he's the best player left in the playoffs.

And what's crazy, not only was he scoring, he was playing defense. I've never seen Luca play defense like that, ever. I don't think he has.

No, he has been playing a lot better defense.

But the defense that he played last night was incredible.

Yeah. I mean, the lobby has. He broke up, basically won the game.

He was a legitimately great defender last night.

Yeah, no, he's been, he's been that the narrative that Luca and Winhor said it even too, like the narrative that Luca sucks at defense. He's not an elite defender, but he is a, like a passable and sometimes above average defender now. And everyone just assumes he's a traffic cone. He won that game when he broke up that lob pass.

I don't assume he's a traffic cone. I just think that he was playing so good last night. That was like the reason why they won on defense. And it was crazy, crazy to see. Here's a, here's a fun stat, though. Ready for this nugget? This is, I think Phil Mackey says this since 2011 in the NBA conference finals, teams that come off a game seven win versus teams that didn't play game seven are zero, 114 in game one. So that trend continues.

Yes. And that was, the Pacers almost beat that.

Yeah, they almost, they almost bucked it.

Yeah. If, if they had figured out how to cover Jalen Brown, it was also.

Jason Kidd's, I believe, his first win ever in game one of a series.

They don't usually win game once. Yeah, but it was a great game. In the fact the Mavs, if you told the Mavs fan before this game that they would have hit six, three, six for 25 from three and still won this game, they'd be like, what the hell just happened? Well, what happened was Kyrie Irving took it personal when Anthony Edwards said he was going to guard him and torched him. And the Edwards looked, like, tired trying to stay in front of, front of Kyrie Irving. I know he wasn't always the one guarding him.

I think he said, it's gonna be fun. Yeah, I'm looking forward to guarding.

And Kyrie Irving said it afterwards, like, yeah, I was sitting on my couch, and he called me out and I was like, okay, sounds good. Kyrie Irving was incredible in the first half. Then Luca finishes it. The Kyrie Irving scores 24 points the first half. Luca scores 19 points in the second half. The Mavs, like, one two punch with the two of those guys. And I. It's crazy, but I feel like I've turned on Kyrie where I'm like, I'm kind of rooting for him. He feels like he's enjoying basketball again. He's enjoying being a teammate. He's a good teammate. And when he's playing like he's playing, it's hard not to be like, damn, this is so much fun to watch.

It's the eclipse. The eclipse got to him. It is weird. Him and Bryson recently, it's like, wait, I'm rooting for this guy. And then when Kyrie was sitting in with the TNT guys after the game, you could see how much fun he was having.

Oh, yeah.

And he was, like, a fun guy to talk to. He was engaging. He was, like, listening. He was joking around. I was like, oh, Kyrie seems. He seems normal.

Yeah, yeah.

He get normal pilled.

I don't know what happened, but he maybe just got older. Yeah. Funny, because he is 32, so it's like, you know, he was 29 then.

Yeah, he was. He was really young. I still remember when he was on the Cavs and they asked him one time, it was like, leBron. He, you know, he's a father of three, and he's a great father. Can you talk about how he is, like, as a father figure in the locker room? And Curry's like, excuse. What? Yeah, like, are you saying that he's my dad?

Yeah.

And that environment that he was in in Cleveland was just so weird.

Yeah.

And then we went out on his own, tried to find himself for the first time.

Yeah.

Discovers I didn't. It took him a while, but he's here.

Took him a while. He's here. The Mavs are tough. I also love what the Mavs are doing where they're just, they're, they're splitting time with Gafford and lively and basically getting, like, an elite center out of the two of them because they just go balls to the wall when they're in the game. And they combined. Finished for. Oh, the Oilers just scored. Look at that. Connor McDavid off the hook.

There we go.

That was a score. Bad, David. I think it was dry saddle. I don't know. Bad. Oh, it might've been McDonald.

I think it was McDavid.

It was mcDavid.

Redemption.

Wow. That would be huge for him because he. It was. That miss was very bad. Who scored? Their memes. Give it to us.

McDavid.

I got a notification. That's a McDavid.

Oh, McDavid.

It was mcDavid.

It was mcDavid.

We need to see a hot. We need to see a replay. They're showing everyone. So it's kind of.

I was about to just say it's. It's been the best year in Dallas sports in history. It still has. With the Rangers, the Mavericks going this far, the stars. ESPN put up a very, very insulting graphic. Did you see that?

No.

It was years since last conference finally. And it was obviously the World Series, not conference, but league, and it was Rangers zero stars, zero. Mavericks, zero. Cowboys 26.

That's awesome.

Yeah, it was a great graphic.

Yeah, it was McDavid. Look at that. Redemption he debt. It's good that he scored that because it would have been bad. That was a, that was a bad miss.

You don't want to, you don't want to go to bed tonight thinking about that miss.

No. No. So the, the Oilers are up one. Nothing in the series. What were we talking about? Oh, yeah. The Mav centers are awesome. They just go balls to wall. Hank, would you like to have Anthony Edwards discussion?

We can have it.

Write it down. I did write it.

I can have it honestly, at the media, which we will get into with Rachel has forced me to do this because.

Agreed.

I realized it last night. I haven't. I like Anthony Edwards a lot.

I love him.

I'm a huge fan. I enjoy watching him play. I think he's a superstar. But when this, when the media does this Jason Tatum narrative, then I have to watch these games and be like, where is it for him? He. 19 points. He was bad shooting night they lost the game.

Agreed.

Where's.

Where I wrote it?

People talking.

He has, he has. He has not been playing.

He wasn't good at game seven.

No, he was not. He's not been playing great as of late.

And he said, I want Kyrie. That was like, as dumb.

A really dumb thing. Really dumb thing to say. Now, I do think that he, you know, there's a long series, but that's.

This is where, like, whatever.

I. Every time we talk about Jason Tatum, I say he's incredible.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

So there's.

Talk it out there.

We said that if he. If he dominates, he gets the benefit of the doubt and he gets to the final. Dominates in the finals, then we will be talking about Jason Tatum in the same breath as other, like, top tier top.

Tatum has been doing it for longer. And I also broke the record for.

Most playoff points scored in his first seven years.

I also say he's incredible every time I talk about him. And I have him ranked higher than Anthony Edwards now.

Now Hank is doing this. He's making us do this because he's dug his heels in so hard on Tatum. He's. What you've done is you forced us to. Someone has Jason Tatum, you forced us after every game. Find stats to make you mad about Jason.

It's not really you guys. I want to make that clear because.

I want to be very hands in.

The frame, the first takes and the undisputed, where it's like, you see the discussions they have and you see, you know, and I probably follow too many, like, Boston accounts, but it's like Anthony Edwards after a loss, Jason Tatum after a win. It's still negative about Jason Tatum and pause about Anthony Edwards and, you know.

Anthony Edwards criticism, he called out Kyrie and then he got torched and he only scored 19 points. Let's just end this Jason Tatum thing for one last time. I have him ranked somewhere between the fourth and the 6th. Best player in the NBA.

What if he wins the NBA finals and then dominates in the Olympics?

I'd probably have him third over Luca. Probably not. If you ask. If you ask, trade if you like, call up and trade. Probably not. The reason why yoke is why the.

Media likes Anthony Edwards so much. And they don't like Jason Tatum. It seems like they don't like him as much. Anthony Edwards is new. So when somebody's new, we're like, oh, this is exciting. The. The possibilities are limitless. And then if Anthony Edwards spends the next, like, four years not quite winning, a championship, then people will talk about Anthony Edwards the same way they talk about Jason Tatum.

I also.

Pretty simple.

Anthony Edwards is the first guy in a while to go outwardly speak. Spoken outwardly, like, against the, like, buddy buddy banana boat era of the NBA. But I think people don't realize there's a lot of new guys right now that are similar to Anthony Edwards that aren't buddy buddy. I don't think Jason Tatum is very buddy buddy. I don't think Lucas very buddy buddy. I think Yoko is very buddy buddy. Sga. Like Brunson. You think Brunson is like, buddy buddy.

With all his Nova boys?

Anthony? Well, they're all on his team, and the. Edwards was the first guy to kind of say it, so everyone's like, fuck, this is a breath of fresh air. The other guys haven't said it, but I. I don't see the same, like, friendship. It was always weird when, you know, LeBron and Chris Paul and Carmelo were, like, best friends, but also competing against each other. Right.

You give them maybe five or six years, maybe they become buddy buddy.

Right.

It's kind of how this whole thing works.

Olympics. Yeah.

The super teams are being phased out because the people that would make up the super teams are getting over the hill where they're not the young talent anymore. Then the new talent is like, fuck you guys. I'm going to go out, compete on my own. They might one day decide to join forces. They get frustrated not winning a championship. They might team up with somebody. Yeah, that's how time works.

Anthony Edwards has not scored 20 points in four of his last six games. That's not good enough. Does that feel good, Hank?

You know, what is that?

What? Did that feel good? What?

I think I really have no. No ax to grind.

Say that said again, Anthony Edwards has not scored 20 points in four of his last six games. That's not good enough. Speaker one.

I'm gonna agree with Hank. If Jason Tatum did that, it would be. It would be lights out.

I would say, that's not good enough.

I think I would be meaner. I'd be meaner.

Well, I mean, I. The age thing does change it.

It does. And he's new and he's exciting and it's fun. So we're gonna talk about all the upside.

First playoff series, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, playing fourth. I don't count the plan. Fourth.

It's basically his first.

Do you feel good with me saying it's not good enough? Yeah. Okay. That's not good enough. The wolves. I mean, Wolves fans know that's not good enough. Now Luca has to be the guy.

Now, Luca, on the other hand, that's a great player, dude.

He's awesome. He. I know the ref thing. I know people don't like it. I think it's a little much as well. But when he's just. When he's controlling everything and getting to his spots and no one can stop him, it's so much fun to watch.

And he's yelling at his teammates, and.

He does it in, like, a kind of slow mo where it's just like, you. Anybody's so smooth.

It's. It's funny. Like, if it's a quarterback that's yelling at his teammates, you're like, I like that leadership. That's a field general grab by the face mask. Luca gets in somebody's face, and people are like, why is he. Why is he screaming at his friend?

Yeah.

It's really strange.

Yeah.

Also shout out, Luca, did you see the stat of or the. The supermax is eligible for after making all NBA.

Yeah, it's crazy.

346 million.

Yeah.

In the supermax.

Yeah. It's. He's gonna make a lot of money. Yeah. And then he's probably gonna resign. He's gonna. At the end of it, he'll do another deal and make, like, a hundred million dollars a year.

Yeah. Pretty good.

Yeah. He deserves it. Okay, so we had the Oilers win game one. Memes, the Panthers win game one. How you feeling? Feeling great. Panthers absolutely dominated in MSG. It was a sad showing by the Rangers. Very funny. Memes. Tweet when you. The Rangers scored an own goal. The memes.

Yeah.

Rangers have scored their first goal of the Eastern Conference final.

Yeah, I saw that come across the board. I was like, God damn it, memes. This is good.

It was. It was the only thing to tweet right there.

You got hate in your heart. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let it out.

And now Rangers fans are giving it back to which.

Which I love. Wait, they're giving back to you, or they're giving it back to.

No, they're giving it back to me.

Okay. Yeah.

They said, I used to love you. Now I fucking hate you. All right. Oh, okay. Getting turned on.

They love you. After your stand up.

It's playoff time. It's playoff time. Hate has to go everywhere. You have to be like, Rangers fans hate memes. Hank hates anyone who says anything other than Jason Tatums, the greatest player ever, with all these. Hate has to go around.

This is reverse gaslighting.

You tried to reverse gaslight me.

No, Max hates the lottery ball machine.

Yeah, all these things Max hates. What's the name?

Work.

Oh, shit.

O'Shea, brissette.

O'Shea brissette. Shake.

And you see? Did you come up with that, Hank?

Oh, Shay, can you see?

That was you?

Fuck, yes.

You're absolutely right. Boom.

Well, that's after. After Donnie came up with. With Horford. July. Horford July rocked, thinking of shirts. Our mercy doesn't for shirts. And he scored. I was like, oh, shit. Can you see? We'd sell one kind of slaps.

I had a couple other things. Real quick, before we go to our interviews, can either of you explain to me what's going on with Caitlin Clark?

Yeah. People are mad at Caitlin Clark, and then it's, like, two people that are mad at her, and then there's a lot of people that are mad at the people that are mad at her, and then now there's people. The first people that were mad at her are now mad at the people that got mad at them for being mad at Caitlin Clark.

Okay, that makes sense. That's where I feel like I've just seen a lot of people yelling about how, like, it's crazy to hate Caitlin Clark and making it about race and all this stuff. But then I can't find the root source more than Jamel Hill or who else, I don't know.

So I dove into it a little bit. I I think that anytime there's, like, a big cultural thing happening in sports, you'll get people that have to write a think piece about it.

Right?

And then they just think too much.

Right.

And then their thoughts, some of them are bad, and they come out, and then people latch on to the bad thoughts and get outraged, and the people get outraged at the outrage. And then now we don't know what's going on.

Okay? So I'm. I'm happy that I've not looked into this.

Here's the deal. Caitlin Clark is a very good basketball player. She has not won a game yet in the WNBA. She's a rookie. So now the takes are flying.

Got it. But she also got them planes.

She kind of got them planes.

And white.

And she's white, and she has pretty privilege.

Okay. And she's a woman. And she's a woman playing in the Wm.

Woman playing in the w. That irritates a lot of people. I honestly encourage people not to. The less you know about.

Yeah.

And Clark. Outrage, the better you'll.

I've felt very good that I've just, like, I know this thing is happening.

Mm hmm.

I'm not gonna just. I'm not gonna try to figure out why it's happening because it feels like a lot of people yelling at a lot of people. And it probably is nothing that Caitlin Clark cares about. It's probably nothing that anyone of her teammates care about. I don't. I just can't. I don't. It doesn't seem like a real thing. It seems like people are just trying to find something to argue about for some reason.

I had to. I had to learn who somebody on the View was by reading about Clark.

Yeah.

That's how bad it's got.

How'd that go?

I don't. That's how. That's how you learn who's on the view is when people get mad at those people.

Hold on, hold on. I want to say. Is it fuck is. No, not Barbara Walters. Barbara Walter still.

I think she died.

Is she alive? What's the woman who's hocus pocus?

Beyonce.

No. Is that woman still Goldberg? No, no, no. You know, hocus pocus. What the fuck?

Is that Joy Behar?

Is that her name?

That's one of the women from the view that I learned about because people focus.

Is this the same?

There's Joy. I know that there's Bette Midler. Whoopi. No, I don't think she's on the view.

Shit.

Yeah, she kind of looks like Joy.

Okay, that's probably. I got that.

They got the same. Same.

I could. You. You would have been like, hey, gun to your head. Bette Midler on the view. I've been like, yep, 100%.

Okay, I'm going through the list.

They look whoopi.

I knew her from Eddie.

She was great.

Nettie. Joy. I learned about her because people got mad at her. I don't know these next two. And then Alyssa. I learned about her because people got mad.

Alyssa. Farah Green. Griffin.

Yeah.

Pick a name. That's too many names.

And then Megan McCain was on there, and I learned about her because people got mad at her.

Anna Navarro. I see a picture of these women.

Whoa.

Yeah, let me see a picture of these women yet that is Bette Midler. I could see the confusion.

Definitely see the confusion.

Okay.

But I swear to God, more people talk about the view than watch it.

Oh, it's 10%. Can you vote for a pug? Maybe give it. Get it to nine. And when is it on and where is it?

I don't know. It's on tv and people get mad.

17 seasons. Okay.

But, yeah, so now that people are mad at their takes about Caitlin clark. Guess what? They're going to talk about more poor Caitlin clark or Caitlin clark. And then the takes are going to get dumber and dumber, and pretty soon we'll all have brain damage.

It would be kind of funny if they don't win a game.

It would be, yeah.

I mean, I'm rooting for that. That'd be very fun there.

I, there was somebody that posted a video, and it was Caitlin clark making a spectacular play. And the person was like, don't forget about the assist, though, from Aaliyah Boston. And then that, that conversation happened. And about race. That's really, and I'm like, it's really good. I love watching sports.

I say that all the time when I'm watching, when I'm.

This is a great ball.

Yeah. When Saquon Barkley busts for a huge run this year. And like, but don't forget about lane Johnson.

Yeah, please. Well, when Saquon, when he goes for big run, I'm always like, that was a great handoff from Daniel Jones.

Yeah, well, now, oh, that was the other thing. Daniel Jones is allegedly pissed off.

Oh, no. What is that like?

Whoa. Be wary, guys. Daniel Jones, you don't want to see him pissed off.

There's a list, if we're ranking quarterbacks in the NFL, of guys that you would least like to be pissed off at.

You.

I would say Daniel Jones is probably last amongst starters.

What do you think Daniel Jones does when he's pissed off? Is it slam the garage door on the way out to work? Is it throw his sweater vest, like, really hard at his chair?

Slams his sweater vest? Yeah, I think, I think he probably tells you that his dad's lawyer.

Yeah, yeah, he's, yeah, I mean, it's.

Like it maybe cry. He might cry.

I can't imagine him pissed off. You might cry, but he's pissed off.

So he's mad that they wanted Drake May.

I don't know why he's pissed off. Let me see. I think I just saw that he was pissed.

I think that there was a story that came out that they, they were targeting Drake. May, look at him.

The Bill Murray in the bowling movie. It's late line.

Kingpin.

Kingpin. The whoo. That was, that gift was built for a guy like Daniel Jones being pissed off.

We got, we got angry Daniel.

Yeah.

Coming this year.

Oh, no. All right. A ticked off Daniel Jones might be exactly what the Giants need. He's got a chip on his shoulder after Giants failed pursuit of a quarterback in this year's NFL draft.

That'd be a new injury.

Yeah, but also, you didn't draft him.

Brock Purdy. I could deal with Brock Purdy being pissed at me.

Yeah. He knows I work a tractor. He's got a little bit of farm.

Yeah.

Country.

I wouldn't be upset if Russell Wilson was mad at me yet.

Daniel Jones is gonna cease and desist everyone.

Yeah.

That's all it's gonna be. I think I had. Oh, the NCAA changed another thing. I don't know. I can't keep up.

So I think I. I. So I read the headline.

I read a little bit of it as well.

The power conferences are getting together and deciding collectively to settle a lawsuit and saying, now we're going to start actually paying the players.

Correct.

Not just nil.

We're going to pay the players and retroactively.

Retroactively. So this all goes back to Ed O'Bannon. Ed O'Bannon from UCLA. I think he won that championship in 94, 95. One of those years. Anyways, he sued the NCAA six about the name image likeness thing. That's why we haven't been able to play NCAA football. That's why they took that off the shelves, because they were trying to figure out the whole nil thing and that one guy went up against the entire system and beat them. And now the players are gonna get paid.

Yeah. So the retroactively gonna get paid, and they also are gonna get paid. But here's the big thing. And I. I'm sure there's many details that I'm missing, and we will have an expert on to explain it. But face value, I think I'm okay with this because I don't think that fans should have to fund these college.

Programs any more than they already do.

Nil. Like, why the fuck are fans, like, tasked with, like, hey, if you don't do nil, your team's gonna suck. And then your team just. Your football program keeps making money. And I get it. There's other sports that are probably going to suffer. Totally get it. I'm just talking about football and basketball. Those probably have to separate. I understand that it's all complicated, everything. But from the face value, why isn't. If you keep showing to me that, like, the big Ten and the SEC and the ACC keep signing billion dollar tv rights deals, why can't the players get a little of that?

Mm hmm.

That's. Again, I've probably oversimplified it. People will say I'm stupid not seeing it. I don't know my take remains the same with all this stuff. Get me to the finish line. Just tell me when we're good with the new future of college sports. Tell me when we're done with the conference realignment. Tell me when we're done with, like, figuring out the intricacies of paying the players. Just tell me the end date, and then I'll fucking pay attention. Because I just want to start a new normal. Because as soon as we start it in a year, two years, three years, we'll be like, whatever. We can't even remember how it used to go. I just don't like the constant change.

Yo, guess what? There's gonna be more constant, of course, like, the next five years.

But just tell us when we can get there. Just give me the fucking finish line.

Yeah, so it's gonna be, teams can now pay. Schools can pay players straight up, give them money. Jeffrey Dockett tweeted this at me. I want to credit him. This is a great idea. He said, imagine Harvard using their $36 billion indoor endowment to pay their football players more than the NFL. The funniest outcome is Harvard having a payroll of $300 million a year to football players and dominating college football.

There is a salary cap. That's the only problem with that.

Well, okay. Minor. Minor detail.

Minor detail. Jeffrey Dachamist. Yeah. I think it's like $20 million each team can pay.

That probably makes sense.

Yeah, it does make sense. So I would be. If, again, there's a lot of details I'm missing that we will have someone come explain J Bill. If not J Billis, agree to disagree on that one. If it's $20 million, every school, every power five school, because I don't know how it's gonna work for everyone else, but every power five school gets $20 million and you can't pay anymore. I think that's actually a good thing. Now, there's obviously still gonna be nil. There's still gonna be boosters. So it gets murky. But on the face value, I think I'm okay with it.

I've also heard some people saying, this is death of college football as we know it. I'm pretty sure they'll tip in a million. They'll figure out a way what's happened more, it's going to be different.

What's happened more in the last five years, the death of college football or world War three?

I was going to say Jimmy Carter dying.

Yeah. World War three has happened 100 times.

Yeah. The start of world War three, for sure. There is. There's going to be some implications going to look different. And I don't think anybody out there fully understands what it's going to look like in three years. Scammed me there, what all the changes are going to be. But as I think one point that Jay did make when he was on the show, when he wasn't being disingenuous, was that if there are teams that are able to pay players to a higher level than other teams, that doesn't necessarily mean that the second level teams are going to suffer because of it, because they'll concentrate more their money on the guys that weren't quite good enough to get those very top tier offers and get paid more money by the smaller schools that could afford to give a bigger percentage of them.

Also, you'd just be telling me, oh, so wait, Alabama is going to get a bunch of five star recruits and like the Wisconsin of the world are gonna get two and three star recruits. Oh, so nothing changed?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's pretty much it. Also in Il, I think is still athletes are gonna be doing advertisements.

Yeah, no, they are.

Yeah. So that's, it's gonna be a little bit of both.

What pug, did you pull this up? Did you do a little producing pug? It was a me combination with memes. Pug. Yeah. Charles Barkley, that was the last thing I actually did have it written down. But good job pugging memes. Charles Barkley said it sucks for all of us. And he blamed his bosses for not wanting to get the NBA on TNT or keep the NBA on Tt on TNT. I did like the Charles Barkley said there's a chance he's just going to hire the guys to his. What does he have? Production company and then just sell inside the NBA to whoever gets the rights. Charles Barkley, you'd be a hero for that.

There's also a chance that Charles doesn't have a production company yet. And he just, he was thinking out loud when he said that. And so then he just starts, he's like, actually that's a good idea that I just said, I'm going to do that. Yeah, but they should do that. They, we need, at very minimum, we need Kenny, Shaq and Charles together.

Ernie, we'd like Ernie.

We'd like Ernie. I would like very much for him to be a part of whatever the next iteration is. But I feel like he's going to stay at Turner no matter what. So we'll take what we can get.

This is, this is if they, if they don't save inside the NBA, I do think this is a miscalculation by the NBA to think that this program doesn't have any effect on viewers and, like, the way that the NBA is consumed. Someone put it perfectly, like, Adam Silver wants to try to find a way to make the NBA as popular as the NFL. NFL and make it mean as much as the NFL, not realizing that an 82 game season will always keep it from being as important as the NFL. So instead he's going to just do weird shit and gimmicky shit to try to like, juice it up. And it's like, dude, inside the NBA is more important to the NBA than the in season tournament by a large margin. Like, those are not equal to me.

Yeah.

In terms of the consumption of like, what the culture around the sport, the way the sports talked about, like, this is, it's entertainment. These guys are a big part of the fabric of the NBA. It's like, oh, yeah, we don't need it.

If you're focused on the bottom line and like, what you're looking at this year, if you're, if you're examining the NBA on a spreadsheet and you see in season tournament ratings up, ticket sales up for those games, Adam Silver is going to be like, well, that did really well. He's going to fall in love with that. But there, but there's other things that go into the entire factory, the entire buzz around the league. That's definitely one of, I saw somebody, I forget what main account it was, but some main account tweeted out yesterday. If the NFL were to do an inside the NBA type show before and after a game, what would that look like? Who would be on that desk? It's like, well, they do. Every network tries to do it.

Yeah.

No one, nobody is as good. I would watch inside the NBA as a pre game for NFL games. Yeah, they don't even have to watch the games. I just want, like, show the teams and then let Charles Barkley make fun of the Jets.

TNT got college football. That's what's part of what he said on Dan Patrick. He's like, they didn't have money for the NBA. We got college football. And I get, maybe the NBA was overpriced and maybe it makes sense, but I agree with you. Like, I would watch this show. Everyone tries to do this show. The only people who have done the show successfully is TNT and inside the NBA.

It really doesn't matter what the topic is.

Yeah, I will.

I'll watch that group do anything.

Yeah. So probably going to lose it. Save it, Chuck. Save it. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. We got Rachel Nichols and then we have a very funny interview with Chris O'Connor, Tommy Pope, two hilarious guys. They're also in Shane Gillis's new show tires on Netflix now. Go watch it. I'm going to binge it tonight. And then reminder, we will have a show on Tuesday and then a show on Friday next week. We also are going to try attempt the John Daley challenge on Monday night. So Tuesday's show might be rough to listen to, but we will be back. We have a huge interview Tuesday. Big, big guest. So everyone enjoy the long weekend. We'll see you Tuesday.

Stay safe.

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No, not how the Bulls doing. They stink. You. You did an episode of your show with these two guys, but I wanted to start with Luca and Kyrie and in talking to them, because Mavs obviously won game one. What has changed with Kyrie and made him all of a sudden, like, the best teammate and a guy that I find myself rooting for again?

Totally, right?

Yeah.

I mean, that's got to be the biggest 180 in sports in terms of how people feel about him over the last three years. It's crazy. I think it's a bunch of different things. So he's older, right? I mean, we all get a little bit more mellow as we age, and I think more perspective. Some of the things that seem very important to us when we're younger, kind of, we're like, okay, I got it. We're good. So I think it's a little bit of that. I think it's a little bit of location. I mean, being in New York especially, it's a lot being thrown at you every day, and I'm not sure that that was the right situation for him. So being in Dallas, where there's a little less media, it's a little looser. That kind of thing, I think, has helped. The biggest thing, though, is Jason Kidd. His relationship with Jason Kidd. Kyrie Irving attended Jason Kidd's hall of Fame induction, which shouldn't be a big deal because we have former players, you know, our current players and former players attending other guys all the time, except that's at the invitation of the player, right.

Jason Kidd had no idea Kyrie was going to show up, didn't invite him, no special arrangements for him. Kyrie grew up watching Jason in New Jersey, and he was like, yeah, I want to go. Jason, my favorite player, is getting inducted at hall of Fame. I want to go. So that tells you the respect that's there and sort of the way that Kyrie feels about him, so that when the Mavs were interested in him, Jason was a huge part of the sort of selling point on both sides. And the relationship they have is so good because Jason is very careful in how he talks, and I don't say careful like it's practice, but like, he knows. He knows how to talk to Kyrie in terms of, hey, I respect you. I respect your point of view. If I didn't I wouldn't mess with you, but here's the times to say things, and here's not. And Kyrie had a great line to me about this, because I've learned not to touch the stove when it's hot. And I think that. I think that that's a good. You don't have to say everything all the time. You don't have to answer every question.

You don't have to make every belief you have public, because this is letting him be who he is. And Jason's big on. He doesn't have to be a robot. Like, he's an artist. He's a this. He's a that. Let him go do all that stuff. Respect that part of his life, but also focus on basketball. Kyrie so settled in even more than last year. He's such a leader in the locker room, which, again, if you talk to people in the Brooklyn, they're going to be like, what the hell are you talking about? But he is 100% doing all the things that Luca, at age 25, is capable of it, but he's not, like, pulling guys aside for, like, heart to hearts or giving them wise advice. He's 25 years old, and he's kind of in the middle of all this stuff now. So the fact that Kyrie has willingly stepped in to do all of that, the guys in that locker room love him. Yeah, it's really unbelievable.

That anecdote is great, too, because I saw after game one, Kyrie went on inside the NBA with the guys, and he basically said that the therapy sessions that he said, jason Kidd had a lot of long talks with the team, and sometimes it felt like therapy. And I. When I heard that quote, I was like, that's weird, because in today's NBA, it feels like coaches have less and less, less power. It is all player driven. Like, players are not going to sit and listen to their coach talk to them for hours and hours and hours on end. So that all kind of makes sense. Their relationship has let Kyrie be Kyrie.

Yeah, 100%. And the respect is there. I mean, Luca, when he came in to the NBA, kind of famously said that he had never seen Jason play, which, I mean, look, he started playing pro ball in Europe when he was 13, and Jason, you know, played a while ago, but obviously, he looked up the clips on YouTube. He said, yeah, he was pretty good. I'm like, yeah, he really was. So I think. I think for both of those guys, that he is literally a hall of famer, played with a style that's so engaging right. It was so much fun to watch him play. I think he can say things to them that, frankly, a lot of these coaches today who came up more through the other side, they can't. And you're never going to respect a guy as much as a guy who's not only done it at the level you've done it, but done it at a hall of Fame level. You feel like I can take advice from him. If you're Luke doncic, as opposed to who are you to tell me what to do? You'll be gone in three years anyway.

Right.

It's interesting. It's like sliding doors moment. What if Steve Nash had been from New Jersey? Would it all have been different? That's what it turned out.

So wouldn't it be different if we were all from New Jersey?

It would be. The world would be a much better place, I think, if everyone was from New Jersey. Yeah, that's right. DC. We're actually, we won't talk about the Wizards on the air because we'll just bore people to death with it. Just say that I'm buying stock in the Wizards right now. I like what they're doing. But the. Do you want to bore people? Talk about the Wizards?

No, I was going to say I didn't know for capitals at all. Oh, we could really bore people.

Yeah, we could really bore people. That too fresh? Yeah.

I'm still buying stock in the football team.

Yeah.

I will say that I'm super psyched about this season.

Me too. So the other half of the combo, the two person combo in Dallas. Luca, I was hoping that you would give us some insight because you do work around skip Bayless. Sometimes I'm not sure how much face to face time you have with him.

He tweeted several times a week.

You're very lucky he tweeted out last night. Luca Doncic is one bad bleep bleeper. So what is bleep bleeper? Because that. That's two cuss words.

I mean, it could be anything, right? Shit shopper.

Yeah.

I mean, I think mother.

One bad bargain shop.

Did you leap out?

Mother bag?

Yeah, maybe bleeped out mother mover.

I don't know what. I don't know what the. It could be anything.

But what's so great to watch about him is it feels like whenever one of them is off, the other person takes over and they kind of alternate. Like, sometimes Luke will be hot at the start of games, sometimes Kyrie at the end of games. What's that? How is that relationship developed? Where they know, okay, who's taking shots now? Who's hot? Who's going to carry the team? This point, is that an ongoing conversation, or is that something that's, like, evolved intentionally over the years?

That's the thing, yeah. So when. When Kyrie first came in, they both really wanted it to work. Like, Luca hadn't had a partner in crime at that level, obviously, you know, he was frustrated that they got to the Western Conference finals, and then the season wasn't going well and. And all of that stuff. So, you know, there's been a big push. Keep Luca happy, because you don't want a LeBron James in Cleveland the first time situation where he's just like, okay, I like it here, but if we can't win, I'm going somewhere else. So they really want to make sure that his development keeps tracking up and his success keeps tracking up, and they believe in him, obviously. So it was a lot of, who can we get at this level? So they both really wanted to make it work, but it was a little rocky at the beginning because they didn't know each other, and that. My turn? Your turn. That actually happened more at the end of last season where it was kind of like, okay, you go, and then I'll go. And you can't win basketball games like that. So it took a while for them to develop actual chemistry on the court, and that's just reps, right?

Getting to know each other. It took a while for them to get to actually know each other. They're pretty different dudes with pretty different backgrounds and pretty different interests. You know, Lucas, a little more of a bro. Kyrie is very cerebral, and in terms of, you know, everything is very analyzed, but they have a lot of common ground, too. They both love the game. They both love to win. They've both been around enough that they can tell stories to each other. And I think Luca really learned that Kyrie could do the parts of the job both on the court and off the court that he has always found just a little heavy and a little frustrating. And Kyrie found a guy who can do the stuff off the court and, frankly, on the court that he kind of had been looking for. I think if these guys came together and Kyrie was closer in age to Luca, if he was, like, 27, just wouldn't have worked. But Kyrie feels like, I'm the elder statesman now. I can be in this position, and it's so fun to watch them grooving on the court. They have so much, like, they both love each other's.

Game and that's, you know, they put each other in great positions.

Yeah. All right, so the other half of that series, the Wolves, do you think we as media members, and I count myself here because we have, we love Anthony Edwards, love watching him play. But do you think we've maybe done him a little disservice with the expectations and the hype? Because it feels like these playoffs, we have speedrun him through like the media of like, oh, he's MJ. Oh. And now he's somehow overrated, which was our ratings. Like, we're the ones who rated him.

Yeah, we suggested.

Yeah. And now. Yeah, go ahead.

He's so talented and he's such a personality. We have not, frankly, had this kind of guy in a long time. I was talking to someone from the league office today. You know, the stars who are around 25, 26 year old are more, a little more mild mannered. Right. They're not talking trash when they know their mic. They're not calling out Kylie Irving after a game, which was unbelievable. You know, they're not, they're not saying they should be starting. They should be doing this. You know, he's such a great personality. Ja Morant is spectacular. But obviously there's a lot of parents who aren't sending their kids to be like, go with the guy. Go emulate the guy with the gun. So I think Ja's gonna have a spectacular future and I actually think that he's a really fun guy to talk to and I think, I think he's gonna be a success. But ant, there's nothing not to love right now. So I think that's part of it. And then, yeah, the young Jordan thing is real. It's just the problem is that everyone took that to mean Jordan, right? So the young Jordan thing, right, was Kevin Garnett was doing a show with me and he's like, oh, he's, I love him.

He's great. He's an 84 Jordan. Right? So he's, he was the one of the first to like, really publicly make that. And I was in the middle of the season and he was saying 84 Jordan. And we were on the set with, with a bunch of other guys and like, rondo was like, dude, he's not Michael Jordan. And KG was like, no, no, no. Like, you know, 84 Jordan. 84 Jordan. Young, young. That guy's, you know, not KG talks. That guy's nice. So I saw Ant like two weeks later and I was like, Kevin Garnett says you're like an 84 Jordan. And he was like, I like that. 84 Jordan. Yeah, that's me. That's me. That doesn't mean that Kevin Garnett or anyone else who is in the league who's followed thinks that he's a six time NBA Finals winner. They just think that he bears a lot when MJ wasn't winning yet, that he was showing a lot of the characteristics of that player. And I personally, I don't think it's even possible for someone to win six ranks anymore. Like, maybe as like the extra guy who goes tops from team to team or something, but as like, the main guy.

I just don't think that's available anymore. I mean, I don't think anyone can be the next Jordan in totality because you have this influx of international talent. Look at all the MVP's from the last five years. They've all gone to international players. All three guys who are MVP finalists this year were international players. Like, the competition is so much thicker from team to team and game to game. I just look at Denver, right? If they were in a different, more watered down NBA, like, they were caked, walk to the finals, they're so good. But that's not what the NBA is anymore. Every team has some great players. Yeah, well, I wasn't bet the Bulls.

Yeah, no, the Bulls don't. Well, did Margaret Rosa.

Alex Caruso.

Alex Caruso.

Yeah.

He's a great player.

I'm only teasing. I'm only teasing.

Yeah. There's not, there's nothing that can be teased. Like, they're just there. I've become apathetic. Like they've done the thing where it's like you never want to be as a sports fan, where it's like they don't care about actually trying to win a championship. So why should I care as much? Year out. Yeah, it hurts. It hurts.

Yeah.

That was it. Yeah.

I mean, that's sad to see what big cats become. He's the killer whale.

Like that.

It just is.

What is brave of you? It's very brave.

That was a good, that was good context on the KG. You know, Anthony Edwards, 84 Jordan thing. When you're talking to KG and working with him, does he, what does he think about the Celtics team?

You know, look, those guys. I work with a bunch of those guys over Rondo, I work with Pierce, I work with KG. And, like, they're all really in. They're behind these guys. You know, KG and Paul have such a connection with Tatum and Brown because it was literally their trade, right, that allowed the Celtics to get them so they definitely feel this sort of responsibility to them and for them. And those guys feel a lot of gratitude toward it for them. And Jason Tatum actually spent this past summer working out with Paul Pierce every day like they were in LA every morning, 730 or whatever in the gym together. I asked the Celtics owner a couple of weeks ago, I was like, hey, I'm watching this all summer. I'm seeing the clips on social media. I talked to Paul, I was like, do you want your young star hanging out with Paul Fierce? Like, what are we talking now? And Paul was in the room when I asked this question and everyone laughed. And he was just like, yeah, he's like, for the workouts, sure. And Paul was like, I tell him after we're done, you go your way, I'll go mine.

Because I got different. I got different jobs than you. So, yeah, I think those guys are connected to the Celtics. I know you're going to see Paul poor side at games. KG just doesn't go to as many games. So I don't know if he's going to show up or not. But I'm pretty sure that you will. You will see some of those zero eight celtics even more at these playoff games because that organization, there is such a history, there is such a connection that I feel like they're going to show up.

The shocking thing to me there was that Paul Pierce is in a gym at 730 in the morning every day.

That probably didn't go to sleep.

Tell me about it.

Yeah, dude.

Tell me about it. But it's true. It's like, I don't know if it's so many years of your body being told this is the time you wake up and this is the time you work out. Have I've been like, did you like, reset the clock on the phone? So we think it was seven in the morning and it wasn't, but apparently. No.

Yeah, dude. Witnesses 230 workout and then you. You just like, change the time. You just put a fake timestamp on and you put on Instagram. Everybody thinks that you're there. Like six getting shots up. That'd be.

Yeah, yeah.

I actually. I didn't know if Hank was gonna be with you guys today.

He's here.

I have, like, an opinion.

Yeah, yeah. He's very sensitive. He's very sensitive. If you say. If you say. Yeah. If you say Jason Tatum had a bad quarter, he will get very upset.

He'll give you a look.

Yeah, well, no, this is. I think he's gonna be happy with me. So I was really. Okay. The pacers choked away their chance to win game one. Like, I gotta say that at the outset, that's 100%, no walking that around, no back and forth. They had many chances to wrap up the game. They didn't. The biggest one being, why in the hell was someone inbounding the ball on their own half of the court when they had a timeout and could have advanced the ball of the court? Like, Jalen Brown can't hit the three if they're not on that side of the court. So I can't even. I can't even understand some of the crap that happened. However, once they got to overtime, Boston still had to win the game. Yeah, so the pictures choked the win. But what I've had these arguments over the last two days with people being like, oh, they handed them. They handed the Celtics to win. What about the way the Celtics have or have not shown up at the end of really big games that we've criticized them for over and over again? Would tell you that's a foregone conclusion.

Jalen Brown had to hit a shot at the end of regulation that he is hitting these days, corner threes 22% of the time. That means 78% of the time that ball would not go in. Right. And then in overtime, the Pacers actually scored the first bucket. So Indiana could have. We've seen at times where the team's winning and then they go to overtime and then they just were like, great, we're putting our foot on the gas and keep going. And Bolton was like, no, we're actually the ones that are going to keep going. And they totally overmatched them. And Tatum, in the final minute, hit that huge three that it was only one point game, and if that ball missed, they're running down the other side of the court and pacers eating it up. So I agree with the choking on the pacer side. The pacers agree with the choking. They've said it. They're like, the mistakes were on us. We lost ourselves the game, but they didn't make Boston win. Boston actually won.

Hold on, hold on, Rachel. Hold on, hold on. You haven't been on. We haven't had you on in a while, and that's our fault. But you got to remember how this show works. We don't do these things for Hank. We don't compliment him and tell him that everything's going to be okay. I don't like what just happened there. Even if it was true. Even if it was true.

No. What? The reason why I wanted to talk with him about this is because I have gotten killed the last two days for saying that.

Yeah.

And I'm looking for someone to back me up.

Okay, that's fair.

I just don't understand.

Halliburton diving out of bounds confidence. There's all these things that added up. It was a big time fluke win for the Celtics.

Well, it's just good to hear from a media member who's not completely biased against the Celtics and trying to spin every game.

And you're a media member. No, I'm not biased for the Celtics. Yeah, you are.

Rachel, would you admit, as of. As a media member, the. The media bias against Jason Tatum is. Is insane and has been insane?

You're being absolutely ridiculous. This guy's made all NBA first team over and over and over again. Nothing was on my MVP ballot this year. Like, what are you talking about? He's been in six of eight conference finals. Like, how is everybody against him?

Well, people expect. I think the problem with Jason Tatum is, and it's not a problem. It's more that, like, he is so highly acclaimed, he is so good at basketball, but there are levels to this. So when I say we. When I say I would rather have Luca than Jason Tatum, Hank gets really pouty and says that I'm being anti Jason Tatum, when in reality, it's just, Luca is.

You're just being true.

Yeah.

Lucas true.

He's one of the top three players in the NBA. That's just a fact. Jason Tatum is probably four or five.

Like, I would rather have Luca than Jason Tatum, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't have Jason Tatum over, like, a.

Boatload of people thinks that you're being.

Not everybody can be the best.

Right?

We don't get participation trophies.

Right.

Someone's the best, that means they're the best. That means other people are worse. But then those people are better than other people.

Hank doesn't agree with that. Yeah. Yeah.

The idea that there could be a question in the series I'm at. I'm at the Timberwolves Dallas series right now that, like, oh, who's the best player on the court? I'm like, guys, we know who the best player on the court is. The best player on the court is. Luka Doncic.

Yes.

That doesn't mean his team's gonna win, because Minnesota is deeper, and Minnesota has guys who are right there under him, and Anthony Edwards is descending and all that stuff we're talking about. But this whole, like, would you rather have ant than Luca?

No.

It's crazy. Thank you.

Generational talent.

Thank you.

I just think we gotta. You know, and Jason Tatum is fantastic, but he's not Luca yet. Maybe he. Jason Tatum could have an amazing summer. Right? Let's say they get to the finals. Let's say they win the finals. Let's say that he, you know, hits these money shots. We haven't seen him, you know, kind of sink some of the real game winning NBA Finals. Kind of, you know, the whole world is watching shots. Yet, if he can do that, if he can power through and kind of create that, and then he's going to be on Team USA this summer, everyone's going to watch those games. It's like the best team since Barcelona and the dream team, right? So if he can have a good role on that team and look good and be playing with players who make him look good, and against competition that will, frankly, largely make him look good, people could have a totally different opinion of Jason Tatum as a whole by the end of the summer than they do right now. But he's got to do that stuff.

Yeah, it's a fair point, hank.

I agree with that. I agree with that.

But then Anthony Edwards, we just heard from, was it Windhorst that told us that he was the best player on Team USA?

Yeah. Well, he wore the mic.

He was. Well, that was the Team USA. That was like the junior team USA. So that was the team at the world championships. So some of the big stars, the guys who were going like Steph or LeBron or any of those guys, or even the slightly younger generation who are really big, they weren't on that team. That was sort of the. You know, if you're going to be a fringe addition to Team USA for the Olympics, come play on this team and show us who's really good and who deserves, like, the last three or four spots. I'm glad you nailed it.

I'm glad you brought up LeBron. Thank you for introducing that topic of conversation.

Never talk about it.

So there's. We got. We got a couple coaching vacancies right now. They happen to be in Los Angeles, where LeBron James plays currently, and in Cleveland, where LeBron James is from the Cleveland Cavaliers. LeBron has some ties to the Cleveland area.

Are you saying he should coach the Cleveland Cavaliers?

Actually, we had not thought about that.

Sounds like you just said it.

I think Brawny should coach the Cleveland Cavaliers.

I did not say that.

I think they got brawny as the coach. LeBron goes back to Cleveland.

You're not aggregating me.

We were actually saying that it'd be very funny if LeBron got JJ hired in LA and then left the Lakers and they left to go to because he knows that he doesn't get along well with coaches. That'd be too big of a spotlight on JJ for his first stop. So I'm going to leave town, bros. We can still do the podcast, but what do you think is going to happen with those coaching vacancies? If you could read the tea leaves.

I don't know, man. Like, Lebron is. His camp is like, being very ardent and making sure it's out there. LeBron is not going to have anything to do with this coaching search. He told the team he doesn't want any part of it. And I get that because if you don't have any ownership over the hire, people can't blame you for it. And people like to blame him for a lot of things. And then if it goes sour, if it goes south, you can be like, I didn't ask for him. Hey, man, I didn't ask for him. And you can check out if you want to, or you can be like, I don't like him, or whatever. I get all of that. That's the advantage for LeBron, but it's not the advantage for the organization. You want to make him have ownership of it. You want him to say, I like this guy. I can work with this guy. For that very reason, Darvin Ham's relationship deteriorated with LeBron and Anthony Davis over, like, the last three or four months of the season, and that was it. He was out. So if the organization wants a coach where the players feel a little obligated, like we're just talking about Luca and Kyrie and Jason Kidd, that respect is just earned over being a Hall of Famer in the NBA.

You've got to have someone, even if you're putting in a guy kind of more, just sticking him in there, as opposed to a lifelong fandom, you have to have a guy that the players are willing to say, we stand by this guy, we believe him, we'll listen to him yell at us. So if I'm the organization that, by the way, has had six coaches in 13 years and recognizes that front office recognizes they gotta. This carousel is not working. It's not despite the bubbles, it's not how you win championships long term, is that they've gotta have buy in from the stars. And if I were the Lakers, I would say, I appreciate you don't wanna be involved. We don't even have to share with anyone. You're involved we can do it behind the scenes. We need you involved.

Right.

So I don't know how that's gonna play out. But I was, when I saw that, I was like, this isn't, that's not the best version of this.

Yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe Pat Riley comes home.

I think Pat Riley and LeBron have, like, it's softened a little bit. The, like, white hot hatred that was coming from Miami after LeBron left. I think maybe turned down a little bit, but I would not expect Pat.

Riley to be, I'm out of ideas.

Then mentoring or management Tom Cruise anytime soon.

Tom Creen coached up Anthony Edwards, made him into the player he is today. I had a question about the Timberwolves. One more about the wolves. They've got, they've got a lot of people on their team that could be looked at as being leaders of the team for different reasons. So behind closed doors, which one of those guys between, obviously, Ant Rudy is. He's outspoken. He's like aloof and kind of goofy. But I feel like he is an outspoken guy. Cat. And then you got some role players too, that I feel like Nas Reid might be a leader of that team too, when, when they're just Mike Conley.

Yeah.

So, so behind closed doors, who is, who's the straw that serves that drink? Who is the. The alpha on that team?

Well, they found out a way to have two guys, right? So Ant is the one who's the alpha. And I got to give a lot of credit to Carl Anthony Towns, by the way. There's a lot of guys who would have had someone like that younger coming up and be like, screw that. Get me out of here. I'm not dealing with us. And he is, he actually championed Ant being the alpha even before it really happened. He was like, this guy. This is the guy. This is the guy. And so I think he should get credit for that. Ant is 100% the alpha in terms of, he's the most outspoken. You know, he plays as hard as he can on both sides of the floor. And that has earned him kind of premature respect from guys who are a lot older than him. Even though he's only 22 years old. He is the face of the team. He loves talking shit. He's 100% what we consider an alpha. That does not mean he's the leader behind closed doors. I think that Mike Conley's importance to the steam cannot be understated. And I think it's kind of like, kyrie, I'm not sure you can be 22 and be the guy behind closed doors who can really pull guys aside and give them advice or have the heart to hearts or whatever because you're just feeling it out yourselves.

This is Anthony Edwards first conference finals. You know, all of that stuff. Mike Conley has been around the block, and I think because he's so well liked, he won teammate of the year, that award. Like, again, I think this is not the first time this season. Like, he just. He has this way with everyone. No one feels like he's pulling anything on them. He just wants them to succeed. He's got a great temperament and personality. So I think it's. It's kind of. They've handed off different parts of that role to different guys. And then Rudy, man, I had an interview with Rudy this morning, and, man, he's still. We were talking about defensive player of the year, and he's still not so happy about how people feel about him winning.

Yeah, yeah. He takes that very serious thing. I mean, but what do you guys think? I think Mike Conley. What? What? Him winning defensive player of the year? Yeah.

What were you. Were you in for that or no?

Yeah, I'm in for it. I just, you know, it's a regular season award.

I think it helps that he stinks so much on offense that his defense stands out so much. That's what I. That's what the key is, right? Like, if you're a really shitty offensive player and you play very, very good defense, people are like, defensive player.

He's had some good offensive game. I mean, I do not want to be put in a position of defending Rudy Gobert, but he's had some strong offensive games these playoffs. I'm just saying.

Yeah. The problem is, with all these awards, it. The playoffs start to bleed into the regular season. It's what you did the year before where, like, Jokic, before he won his first title, people are like, how could we give him, you know, multiple MVP's? MVP, right. And so I think that's probably what is hurting Rudy Gobert in terms of public perception, is he wins the award, he deserves to win the awards. And then we watch the playoffs, and it's like he's. There's been times when he's been played out of a series where it's like, you can't even have him on the floor. I'm not talking about that this year. But in past, there were a couple.

Games with Jokic where he just abused him, right? Where it was like, Rudy should not be on the floor defensively.

And then the award comes out simultaneous with what we're watching. Wait, how does this work? Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I kind of think they should give out all the awards right at the end of the regular season.

Yeah.

Otherwise, you have this danger of that happening, and it's kind of bad. I mean, you know, nikola kic embarrasses everyone.

Right?

Like, he's. I mean, I can. I. Good. He is fucking amazing.

Yes.

Like, I mean, there's. You need to use the curse word part because there's no other way to say it. Like, if you're bored by him, if you don't think he's good, if you're like, oh, he's lumpy. And I don't know, like, you're just not paying attention or you don't know basketball. Like, he is exceptional. So, yeah, he embarrasses a lot of people. I wasn't shocked. He embarrassed Rudy. Rudy gives his critics evidence. He hands them things to criticize them about. But I kept saying I voted for him for defensive player of the year, and people gave me the hardest time, and I was like, how can you match him with Hakeem Olajuwon for four defensive player of the years? He's not at that level. I'm like, hakeem Olajuwon was not on the ballot, guys.

Right?

Like, I can only vote for who played the best this season and his numbers and anchoring the number one defense and having his team finish near the top of the conference. And we don't have to worry about this next year. Wendy's going to win the next, you know, five or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. That's.

It's a weird way to chill where they're like, hey, well, this guy won it four times. Is he as good as that guy?

Right.

And same thing with, like, Lucas or with a. With Jokic's MVP.

Yeah.

Where they're like, look at the other guys that have won. Three of them.

Yeah. If you did it, honestly, MJ and LeBron should have more mvp's. That's just a fact. But that's just how voting works. Yeah. That's how voting works. Yeah.

Yeah. It's very weird. So you. Since you cussed, I have a question about Luca, because he gives a lot of shit to the referees. Right. So everyone that's watching Luca, a lot of people don't like the fact that after every. Every play, it feels like every pass, sometimes even, he'll be in the refs. There are some times, like, on the goaltend that they called last night, Luca was calling the goaltend before the ball even went through the basketball. He was, like, underneath the basket, telling the ref, when he, when he yells at the refs, does he, does he curse in slovenian? And the refs, just all the things. So that's why he gets away with it, because, understand, he gets.

He gets away with some of it, but then he'll go and start cursing at them and arguing with them in English, and you're like, shh. Like, do it the other way. They can't understand you.

Yeah.

And I don't know. I mean, look, we've been through, like, so many rounds of, you know, we've talked with Luca, and he understands, and. And he knows he can't do this as much. And it's distracting for him. It's distracting for the team. He doesn't get down to the other side of the court. He doesn't win. These arguments, like, why is he doing it? We've gone through Luca saying, you know, he had a game in the last series where he didn't talk to the officials once, and so, of course, everyone noticed. And afterward, we asked him, hey, what was that? And he's like, oh, everyone sat down with me, Jason, Kyrie, you gotta stop doing this. They kept telling me, you know, what's. Why do you play basketball? Remember the joy of the game? Remember that it's fun. Like, that was the approach they took this year. They took six approaches with him. This year's approach is, remember the joy of the game. Remember how fun it is. Just have fun. Don't worry so much about all this stuff. And he played one game like that, and the next game, he was right back to arguing every single call.

So I don't know how you fix it. It hurts him more than it hurts anyone else, and I don't. He's such a great and smart player. I don't know why he can't.

I think that's what gives him joy, though, yelling at the refs. Yeah, that's. That's what he goes back.

That's why he got into playing basketball.

Yeah.

He just likes to yell at refs. Because I wonder if any of the rest.

I get it.

If any of them have, like, start to learn Slovenian so they can figure out when. When he's saying the words that you're not allowed to say, so I can tee you up.

Joey Crawford would know some of them, right? I bet they know some of, like, in the languages of the guys who are front and center. I bet they know some of those for sure.

Yeah.

Because they get caught a lot.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, I had one.

What they call me.

I had one last question for you. Rachel Roback, question rho back.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Cusips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. this is just. Who's going to. Who do you have in the finals? Who you have winning? It's always nice when we have people on later on in the. In the playoffs, because you just have a better chance of getting this right. Like, we'll have. We'll probably have Racillo on, like, game five of the finals and be like, all right, who do you got winning? But.

Okay, now, who do you got?

Who do you. Who do you have? Because you can get credit for it.

Yeah, I mean, I think this is one of hard ones to call. Like, I was such a big believer in Denver, and I was frankly shocked in the fourth quarter of that series. Like, I just. I don't know what happened. I still can't tell you what happened in the fourth quarter of that series. I mean, obviously, Minnesota played, you know, great, but they had to, you know, Denver, Denver just. Just. I don't understand it. So I was willing to put Denver up against everyone. Now that the team I thought was kind of unbreakable is gone, I. My berries are not right. I think whoever comes out of this series could absolutely win the finals. And with the Celtics, you just don't know. And I don't want to disrespect the pacers. I would not pick them in a finals matchup. I would not pick them in superconference finals matchup. Like, I'm picking the Celtics in that one. The Celtics. You don't have enough information to know if they're good enough yet. And it drives. I know Hank's probably boiling over there. It drives Celtics fans crazy because we can only play who's in front of us.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that I now have enough information. I don't know. I don't know if you have what it takes because I haven't seen it yet. I did not see it in the NBA Finals that they played against the warriors, where they just kind of fell apart as that series went on. I have not seen the evidence yet that you can win an NBA final. That doesn't mean you can't. And I absolutely believe that they could. But how would you know?

You just.

They haven't been there and showed us that they could. So that's not their fault. It doesn't mean that they can't win. But I couldn't call it once we get to the finals because the Celtics are like a black box. You just don't know what's in there yet.

Yeah. All right, so who's winning? Mavs?

That's a good answer. That was such a long answer. I forgot that you didn't answer it.

You didn't answer.

Great answer.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Not the Pacers. Maybe the Celtics as smart. And then also maybe whoever wins now.

I might have to root for the Pacers just because that would be.

I mean, that the funniest possible outcome for this podcast would be the Pacers.

Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, dude.

I assume you guys are rooting for the Pacers anyway.

No, I want. I want to see the Celtics do well. I support my friend Hank. I want nothing. He's a. He's a heartbroken Massachusetts sports fan, has not had a lot of success. I want to see reverse the curse.

Yeah, it's fuck the Pacers right now in this house. Fuck the Pacers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right, Hank, we got you back. Yeah.

I feel like this one never win game two. Is he one of those guys?

Yeah.

Are you one of the. You can never win game two guys?

Yeah, it's a bad game, too.

He also just said, we just want to see him lose in the finals. I. That is ridiculous. I would never think that. No, it's 100% true.

I don't. I don't want to see.

You'd hate.

You'd hate to see it if it happened.

You would hate to. We would hate to have to podcast about Rachel. You have to.

You're gonna hate watching Hank if he loses in the finals. Everyone. Everyone.

The royal you.

We will hate it. Yeah, exactly. Who would want to see that? Well, what's he. What's his prediction for tonight? If they. If. If Boston can't win game twos, but they've got one tonight. What do you think?

I think today they break the reverse the curse. Win by 20. Jalen Brown drops 40.

It's a must win for the Celtics.

NBA snub. He's going to come out hot.

Must. The pacers. They don't lose at home. They don't. They haven't lost at home since March.

That's true. Have not lost at home since the middle of march.

So it's a must win for Hank tonight.

Yeah.

Can I. Can I brag for a second?

Yeah.

So we both work with draftkings, and draftkings has me do, like, a parlay bet every Tuesday, and it really. I had to learn a lot about gambling and how parlays work. I'm gonna just admit that this is not my natural. I'm not an expert to be with, but I'm proud because I've had more and more wins lately, and I had a triple win parlay on the Celtics in the last game.

Wow.

And I got it.

Wow.

Congratulations.

You should brag about that. Yes.

You see? So since he was saying Jalen Brown's gonna drop 40, it's what I was like. Yeah. I picked Jalen Brown's numbers. I picked Jason Taylor's rebounding. I had Al Horford. Like, I was. I was in. I was rolling.

What do you have tonight?

So there you go.

Rachel's secret parlor.

All right, so I tune in on Tuesday for draftkings. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah, it's good.

There you go.

It's good. Plug. Well, yeah, Rachel, it's. It was great having you back on the show. We'll make sure that we have you back on sooner, then later, and appreciate it. As always.

As always, boys, I was happy to be here.

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Okay, we now welcome on very special guests. It is Tommy Pope, Chris O'Connor, stuff island guys. Also in the new comedy on Netflix, tires.

Yes, sir.

Out when we air this, probably. So, yeah, congrats on Thursday. Thursday morning, 03:00 a.m. now, I already asked. I'm gonna ask again, cuz. You guys didn't give me an answer. Shane Gillis is Adam Sandler. Who's Rob Schneider?

Well, currently it would be german.

Yeah, I guess.

Oh, you guys aren't even in like the. You guys are kind of on the outs.

No, he's in. No, no, no, no. I'm a recurring character with Schultz. Okay, so I'm in like three to six episodes. Chris is in the shop, you're in the holes. One of the boys in the shop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you guys help write it?

I didn't.

A little bit. Yeah, but, yeah.

What does that mean, a little bit?

I don't know. I was, like, on set, get thrown out. I was there. The whole throwing out ideas, like, I don't know. Some of this stuff was kind of based on scripts that we wrote a long time ago, but it changed a lot. Yes.

Like, punching it up, changing some punchline.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Most.

So I wouldn't.

Yeah, I wasn't, like, writing in the.

Room, writing with it.

Is it awesome? Like, is it, like, set in that, like, you guys are gonna be on a Netflix show. Like, this is all. It feels like the whole group is, like, been on this, like, meteor. Meteoric rise.

Yeah.

Like, it's nuts to watch.

Yeah, it is. It's weird, man. There's, like, so many different variants of all of our group that, like, we've been doing stuff for, like, twelve years together in different aspects.

Right.

So seeing it all finally take hold is, like, you know, I don't know.

It hasn't sunk in. I don't think. Yeah, I don't. I still don't really believe it's real.

Once it comes out and people are watching it and then they recognize you from it, everyone's just gonna call me.

A whop all day.

Yeah.

That's, like, you've reached the highest.

Are you guys ready to, like, let them go to your head? If it becomes a smash hit, you're always gonna be known as the guy from tires.

I don't know. I still. I still don't believe that will happen. Yeah, that, like.

No, it's like, consider. I mean, the writers. Yeah, it was like, Shane Gerbin and McKeever, but, like. Like I said, I think this is. This is the one. And I think they'll. They'll have as many seasons as they want.

Yeah, it's.

It's a matter of. But, like, everybody is so talented that I think it's gonna be, like, one of those. Yeah, I think it'll be one of those things where, like, they're just gonna go, okay, this is a jumping point to the next project, and it's gonna be something. There's just such a great group, and it's corny as fucking hell. But, like, it's an octopus where, like, everybody. Tentacle is a different, like, you know, we have different qualities and talents, but we're all going the same.

It's. It's awesome because I love the idea of, like, you know, comedy is obviously a very singular thing where it's like, you know, you're a comedian, you're up there, you're not competing against everyone, but you are. But, like, seeing a group of guys do it together is. Is the coolest. Like, that is why the Adam Sandler, like, I think people keep getting drawn back to it. Cause, like, he's. He's like, I got my friends, and this is awesome. And we like to get movies together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that was.

That's crazy. I mean, the. The idea that we get, that we get to be part of this show and that it's being made and it's literally just all of our friends.

Yeah.

Same. Like, to even be doing this in any capacity is nuts.

Yeah.

The fact that it's just all people, we.

Which would hang out anyway, so important. It's like, yeah. You know, the quality of work you guys do here is because you're hanging around each other all the time because you're our boys and, like, the work environment, and I think, like, the work environment, every set, when it's just us, like, the way you make directs and stuff, and then, like, the way they write the scripts, there always a lot for improv. So, like, whatever you see on screen might have never made. This script is just like a function for, like, a story.

Right.

And then because we're all so comfortable, there's not some strange director you're not working with, an actor you just met. It's just like, you know exactly how they interact.

Yeah.

You know, a lot of times, it's just urban fighting with Shane the way Chris and I would fight, it's like you're like, you want to get a cheeseburger from Chris?

Go.

And then it's like, it's immediately good.

Right. It's natural.

The next level of this is like, as it evolves. What Sandler especially did is, like, later on, he just started doing his movies with his boys at, like, vacation destinations.

Yeah.

Spend two months.

Yeah.

Like, Shane, let's not do tire shops.

How about we do a tv show about, like, yacht repairman.

Yeah.

I started thinking about doing just a road trip movie.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I already have, like, the. But that's kind of the same selfish.

Yeah.

You know, mentality going, let's just go do all the coolest shit. Let's do a bucket list. If you were about to die.

Yeah.

What would be all the coolest shit you would want to do?

Yeah. Tire shop. But it's in cobblestone.

Yeah, yeah. All the women are naked.

There's cocaine inside the table.

That's sick, though. So. And you guys just both moved to Austin, right?

Yeah.

So how's that cultural shock from New York? Because you guys are all living together in Queens, right? Yeah. Is the two of you. Yeah. Were you guys living in the same apartment?

Yeah, so I was there. I was there for like ten, 1011 or something like that. And Shane was with me for like five, for six. And then Chris moved in. He was with us for like four. Yeah, all three of us were together for four. Shane moved upstairs. Chris and I together for another year. And then Shane fucked off to Austin. We followed him like three months later. In terms of culture shock, it's like, I don't know if it's my age. Like Chris said it on the other pod where it's like, you don't realize the northeast, Philly and New York, it's like you're constantly under fucking mayhem. Your angst is up, your anxiety's flying. You're just angry for no fucking reason. And I got to Texas and I was like, oh, this is a quality of life that people talk about.

Yeah. Different way to live.

Yes.

Every way.

Nice.

Yeah.

Everyone's saying like, nice little.

Yeah.

Dude, if it's just surface y stuff, I like it. Yes.

Explosion in my endorphins, in my fucking brain when a native comes out and just like, waves.

Yeah, it's nice, right?

It's so beautiful.

It's real. What part town are you guys in?

Words. I'm in South Austin.

Okay.

I'm downtown. Yeah.

South Austin is still pretty cool, right?

It's. Yeah, there's like, there's like two or three different. I mean, it. There's a lot of outdoor fucking breweries and stuff like that. But the. There's a couple around me that are just like, just enough artsy. That's not too hipster e. Yeah, it's real. The people are real. You don't feel like it. You're in a corny space. It's not. It doesn't seem like Brooklyn if.

Yeah.

Understand that.

Yes.

It's not like Texas. Brooklyn.

Going from, like, a Manhattan restaurant to an Austin restaurant and seeing the. The vast difference in size is just so crazy. So I did the opposite. I moved from Austin to New York City.

Oh, no shit.

And then I walked into my first restaurant when I got there and I was like, where? How do I. How do I walk to my.

Yeah, yeah.

While you're in Austin, you've got like a backyard restaurant that's like four acres.

Yeah.

Dogs running around.

It's also so easy to find shit in Austin because you're just walking around, you hear, like, good music playing. You're like, I'll go check that out.

Follow it.

In New York, you have to, like, find the spot where cool shit. You have to, like, dig into this nest of shit. Like a cool hang.

Yeah, I just. I love the idea of Tommy just being. I've said it, but, like, you are the end of Goodfellas. Just walking around being like, is that guy waving at me?

Yeah.

Fuck you, too, right?

No, they really are, dude. Even the customer service for, like, the utility bills, the people are just. Yeah, they're calm. I gotta say. Like, I gotta switch over gas and stuff. Stuff. And I'm just. I'm deep breath, dredging, you know, dreading rather talking to this fucking woman who's gonna give me a hard time getting my gas turned over. And she's just sweet as pie. Picks up right away. I'm not on hold for 30 fucking minutes just asking about my day before we get to business.

So are you worried?

Are you gonna get soft, though?

Oh, yeah. You've already got.

You're gonna miss that. That east coast, like, you know, combativeness.

No, I think I was in the trenches long enough that I can never on, you know, I can never go back to the pussy, like, lifestyle.

Yeah, I still got. We're in like a honeymoon phase.

Yeah.

It's like, man, it's so nice to. I can't believe we're down here.

Yeah.

I think it'll. After a year, will slowly slip out.

I'm kind of rooting for you guys to get soft. Yeah. And you'll know it, too.

I think the year thing is like, it's a good. That's a good milestone right there is like a year because you're gonna get experience of summer. Because I have no idea what that's gonna be like. You do I? No fucking idea. I don't know if I'm gonna enjoy it or not. And then you go, okay, well, I'm in space. I'm in a lot of space. Do I miss the animals? But the good thing is I. The club by where we. You know what mothership is on 6th street.

Yeah.

And that's mayhem. So we get a little. Get a little bit of both.

Yeah.

And 6th street at night, it turns into just a cluster fuck.

Smarty guy.

So there is some chaos there, for sure.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Your brains kind of.

Your brain. What do you mean? Ooh, that's good. That was deep.

Jesus.

I mean, that was just, like, deep. I don't know. I feel like as much as things have changed, you're still kind of like a mania in the same.

Yeah.

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Do you feel like you're way different.

Now than you were in New York? New York? Does it. I think it's more just like, there's a deep breath that you can take when you leave New York that you didn't realize you're holding it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, you're like, oh, shit. I was.

Chicago's a perfect lateral move.

Yeah.

Because you still have a beautiful city, lots of entertainment. That's not just one note and end piece.

Right. And there's trees and, like, parks and stuff. Yeah, New York, like. Yeah, you just kind of, like, hold it in your. Like, your shoulders.

No, for sure.

Shit.

Yeah.

I was kind of just.

I say that's how that's out. That's why Philadelphia is one of the ugliest cities, because I think they're all born beautiful and just the tension around them just gets them. Like, they start hunkering down, they start losing their size, and their eyebrows get down because they're always like, fuck you. Fuck you, you. And they just turn. The Orcs always protect. Always protecting, like, one little piece of land. Like, my dad always protected the front grass all the time. Get the fuck off the law. Like, kids would just walk along a corner.

Yeah.

Just angry. His whole fucking life not knowing he could go 30 miles this way and just live in Lancaster, have sex with his wife again. You know what I mean?

Your brain is your brain. So, like, if you. If you move somewhere, you never. I think people do change, though. I think.

Yeah.

Environment. Yeah.

Like, if we lived in San Diego, I'd be. So how do you not become, like. We actually discussed it, like, you know, sexual. Hey. Hey. Hank wanted us to move to California's. Like, we can't be sports fans the same way in California. Like, I just don't think you can. I don't think you can matter as much.

Yeah.

I mean, that beautiful every day.

I don't.

I don't know.

I mean, I agree with this a little bit, but I will say I don't know enough about the summer yet. I do. I will miss. 1 million% missed the change of seasons.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, that. That, to me, Paul, is.

But you're talking about growing up there.

Yeah.

It's hard to be a sports fan.

Yeah.

On the same level.

Or just move. I think if you move to California. And maybe I'm way off, but, like, if my team loses a big game and it's like, oh, it's 70 degrees. I can go to the beach. Yeah. I just don't think you hold it in the same.

Oh, come on.

Do you think so? Yeah. Oh, I think like, a playoff loss in football, when it's like, you know.

This is where you brains already a brain.

Your brain's your brain. You get to the beach and you.

Go, I'm sitting at a fucking beach. Who the fuck do I think I am? Yeah, riding a bike along the beach is nice for two weeks, and then you start going, does this.

I think.

I think eventually just takes over other people's brain. Take over your brains because you're out there, you make new friends. Your friends aren't as into sports because they grew up in San Diego.

Then they're not my friend.

And then finally an acquaintance.

Yeah, man, I feel like.

I feel like it would change us. It would make us, because right now, I think the beauty of this show sometimes is that we get pissed off over the smallest, most inconsequential things. Little, tiny things like the jerseys, the Nuggets war last night in game seven.

Sure.

Those were game two jerseys. They were not game seven.

I agree with that 100%.

Right.

If I'm in San Diego, do you think I'm, like, I'm getting riled up about what the Nuggets wore?

I think you get more. I mean, again, if you transplanted there, I think you get more mad because walking out into a nice, sunny day.

Yeah.

Is like. Is like when you go in the locker room after a loss and people are dancing.

Yeah. Yeah. Shut the music off.

This is not. What a loss.

You guys having a good time?

Shit. Your brain is your brain.

Yeah.

Fucking tea.

This will be. Be a big test. Will be the Eagles season in fucking Austin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Will you be able to get fired up?

Oh, 100%, baby.

Okay.

Yeah. I mean, you're in the thresher.

Put me in Russia.

Yeah. I mean, our guy Max, he's. He's a big Philly fan, and he. The Eagles torture him. He's just angry all the time.

But again, it's great. It's great torture going, fucking what? 1111 win season. I'll take it for a little while. The fumble in the Super bowl was the shit that will always echo in your skull.

Yeah.

Because you had, like, you had it all the momentum. But if you're getting there and getting your ass whooped, you just still go back. Maybe next did you guys do any.

Deep background research on the sod father, the guy that put the grass down for that game?

No, I didn't do any research. I don't. That's like suspect.

Nice. Really suspect. You should learn about.

No, I've read enough. And then I went, I can't. I'm not mentally strong and emotionally strong enough for this shit.

This guy, he has been doing the groundskeeping work for the Chiefs for like, what, 50 years?

Whole life. He would. Yeah.

His last game.

Yeah.

The Super bowl. And on the way out, they had all that controversy about how slick the grass was. Oh, it was.

And the Chiefs knew. Chiefs had the right cleats.

Yeah.

The Eagles didn't really, guys, I did.

Not know paper over there. That kind of shit matters, dude. I like, cuz certain, again, certain surfaces play to certain teams and like.

Yep.

That mean nuts.

Look into it. Yeah, I liked it. Tommy just like, looked at the read of one paragraph on ESPN comm is like, I can't.

Yeah.

We cannot handle.

Yeah, it's like. It's like a mother of six going. A child was kidnapped in. It's like, I can't have that. My skull right now. I got six beautiful angels on my couch not reading about this kid fucking getting ass. Right.

So, yeah, that would be the big test is like, can you get worked up? I mean. Yeah. You will be with Cowboys fans. So that does.

That'll be actually.

Yeah, yeah.

There's nothing worse than Cowboys fan, dude. A Cowboys fan in Texas. I'll take it. I'll listen to you.

Yeah.

Seeing a Cowboys fan in Philly or anywhere but Texas.

Yeah.

You're a pile of garbage.

It's interesting because I found that Cowboys fans outside of Texas are. They're more delusional about the cowboys than the ones that are actually.

Yeah. Just want to be something.

They. They like the image of the cowboys. Yeah.

They fell for the american scene.

Yeah.

Down there it's just mexican dudes wanting to, you know, talk about something.

Yeah, yeah. They're more knowledgeable Cowboys fans in Texas than they are anywhere else.

Yeah. So are you from Austin?

No, originally from DC, so I'm a commanders football team. Redskins fan, whatever. This year?

Yeah.

It's awful. I'm actually not even mad. Yeah, you can't be mad.

No, no, no.

We're not a threat, dude.

No, but I am. You guys did make some good changes. It's gonna take. You got rid of that fucking pervert. That's great.

Yep.

Which one owns the organization?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

That guy, the head.

Specify. Here. Yeah.

I think the next five years is gonna be a nice building squad for you boys.

Oh, that was a. That's. That was mean. What did you. I mean.

I mean, that was.

I mean, to be out.

So, Paddy.

Yeah.

Be cute in a little five year rebuild.

It's a good time, not 80.

I spent, like, we say that to my dad.

Yeah.

The last, like, seven years of my life, just willing every. Every ounce of my inner being trying to get Dan Snyder out. He was my biggest enemy. I just went after him all the time. Brought up a lot of old shit that he did. I was like, I won't. I won't live past this guy because he's a billionaire, so he's gonna live to be, like, 110.

Yeah.

So I can't die with him still as the owner. I got my wish. He sold the team. Now I'm the dog that caught the ambulance. I'm like, I don't know. It was way easier to just, like, get mad at Dan Snyder for all my problems.

You get any, like, legal issues with that? Like, I know some of those guys, like, actually go after.

Yeah, it happens with. With James Dolan in the Knicks a lot.

Right.

I feel like he goes after. I mean, we're banned from. We tried to do a show it where. The Beacon theater.

Yeah, beacon theater.

And we were told, no real owned by MSG.

Yeah, yeah, he was a lot.

And we sold, like, shirts that said, like, sell the team. Like, eight years ago, one of our other guys did hiss at him on the street. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I'm not a huge fan of that guy.

You James Dolan? Yeah.

Yeah.

Way to go out, nobody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't understand why they can't force him out.

I mean, how. How could you?

Because it sets a bad precedent. If the other owners are like, hey, we got to get this guy out. They make him sell the team, then they all know that they've got some skeletons and they.

Yeah, but the whole fights, like getting a new head coach.

Yeah.

You know, if, you know, the head coach is not great, but you, the offensive coordinators, boys, are the head coach. As soon as you get a new head coach, that whole. The whole system of coaches is a cultural problem.

They got to make a change.

Yeah, but, like, give him a handshake.

And say, hey, man, it's all billionaires.

Who likes to come.

Yeah.

Like, think about some of the guys that got out of different places, different teams, like, how it took, like, a long time or they had to do some real, like, Donald Sterling or, you know, the guy who was the guy who owned the Suns or even the guy in the Panthers. Like, they don't want to kick anyone out because then everyone could turn around, like. But what about you? Yeah.

Yeah, I think Jerry Jones doesn't have any skeletons in his closet where he.

Skeletons in his fucking face.

Yeah.

Teeth are disgusting.

But, yeah, they don't want another owner to sell because then at the end of the day, they're like, shit, somebody could make me sell because I've done some.

Think about when Dan Snyder was getting under the all pressure, like, a year ago when it was. Right, right. Getting to the point where it was like, oh, shit, he's got to sell this team. You think it was a coincidence that Jerry Jones pictures from when he was, like, protesting black? Like, that shit just starts coming.

Mudslinging. Yeah.

Right. Like, oh, you want to do it? Okay, we'll do it, too.

Like Steinbrenner. I'm gonna tailgate that dude's funeral.

Jones.

Who?

Why? You guys should like him. He's. He is making all the wrong. Yeah, he medals, like, outside of the nineties. He just medals so much that it's like. Yeah, I mean, I actually respect Jerry Jones and the fact that if I were an owner, I would do the same thing and be like, I'm the GM, too. I'm the coach. Like, I'm calling the place. It's my team. Yeah. I like that. I would do the same thing. I don't know.

But once you start eating exclusively applesauce, you gotta.

Yeah.

Hang it up.

And he made an AI, like, political on me, dude.

Yeah. He makes people do a tour of cowboys stadium, and there's an AI Jerry Jones that you can talk to.

Yeah.

If you're, like, a fan going through.

Really?

Yeah, he's in that, like, late stage, the. The super rich guys that get, like, so obsessed with living forever.

Yeah.

And they start doing weird shit, like taking their kids blood and shit.

Yeah. That part I get.

The people's blood.

Yeah. If you.

If you're old and a billionaire.

Oh, yeah.

Everything has gone right.

So.

Right in your life. The entire. The only thing that's coming for you is death, and it would be so unacceptable.

Yeah.

I don't know, man. I feel like I've had so much fun already. I'm only 44. I cool with a dirt nap at this point.

No, you aren't. You doubling right now?

No, no, no. Like, imagine if I make it to fucking 80.

Yeah, but I think that's exhausted. If you make it to 80, you probably had a ton more success. You're like, this rocks. I want to keep going.

Nah, that point, you gotta fucking pump your dick up to touch anything.

Being a hundred, what do you want?

Like percent be drinking children's blood. Just.

Yes.

To stay young.

You'll be still.

Yeah, you.

But yeah, yeah, yeah.

You'll be on fucking.

I started 35 now.

Tile lotion, King tires, season 200. I want to keep doing this. Yeah, yeah.

Don't have cars anymore.

Yeah.

Nobody'S coming to shop.

Yeah, that's what the nineties sitcom take your top off.

Science fiction. What the fuck? That's so, so. Alright, so you guys are on the road doing your podcast on the road, I gotta say. The Chevy Chase clip.

Yes. So funny.

Yeah, I mean, I laughed. I, that was one of those clips that I saw and I started showing everyone, Chris, you've never told a story. Can you tell the story correctly right now? You've never told a story worse than.

If there's one clip that really resonates with our relationship, that there's like three of them, which shows you how his brain works and how my brain works, how our energies work and why our podcast works. That fucking clip is exactly it. We're in a car traveling to a show, and he just brings up a random joke. Because we were struggling at the beginning of the podcast because we're focused on the energy of the traffic and stuff. And it was our first, like in car.

We were driving through Chevy Chase, Maryland.

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Came up.

And he, and what? He just was like, and he goes.

Yeah, it's, well, you said he heard.

The guy's a dick. And I was like, yeah, he fucking kicked me off his trampoline.

Yeah.

And he said it just like that.

Yeah.

And I went, I laughed. And I was just like, that's a good bit, dude. Oh, no. I was like, oh, yeah. And he goes, yeah, I was jumping too high and I thought it was just the corniest joke of all time. Like, I thought that was cute. I was like, that's a good bit.

Yeah.

Now, as a real thing that happened.

Seriously, every chase kicked me off his trampoline and then my mind explained, explodes going, what are you talking about?

Why would you say it like that? Yeah, says it like that. So what happened? Well.

Oh, so the best part is it's.

Just, it's gonna lead us right back.

No, so I, it was freshman year of high school, so all of our middle school, my high school is, like, gigantic. All of our middle schools, like, blended together. And this kid in my biology cat class from another school, I wound up kind of, like, come becoming friends with him just in class. And then he was talking about how he's dating Chevy Chase's daughter, and I was like, what? And then he was, like, a couple weeks went by, and it, like, kind of got around the class, and then he invited, like, a bunch of us, like, me and, like, literally, like, 13 other kids to go to Chevy Chase's house one afternoon after school. So, like, after school, we just got picked up in this giant van, and we all went to Chevy Chase's house. And then we get there, it's like, this is weird. It's just, like, in New York somewhere. And we get there, there's, like, a dance recital planned with, like, his daughter, who my. This kid I know is dating.

That's why you don't want to be too successful.

Yeah, it was so weird. So the kid, like, his daughter starts dancing with a kid that I played on, like, a Connecticut, New York, like, lacrosse all star team with. So I'm like, what the fuck is this kid doing here? And apparently he'd been taking dance lessons the whole time. He's, like, a ballroom dancer. So, like. And he saw me and was like, fuck. So now he has to do, like, ballroom dancing with Chevy Chase's daughter in front of us in, like, a barn. There's just 13. Yeah.

And we.

We're all sitting there, like. And the kids I was with were like, much more just like, fuck this. It's, like, just ripping on them the whole time. So then that ended.

You're just rooting for your boy.

Yeah, and I was like, you know, I was, like, one of those things where I was like, I always kind of wanted to be a comedian, but I had no idea how to do it. And I'm, like, fucking at Chevy Chase's house, and I'm like, I got to impress him somehow. Yeah, no, and so trampoline. I'm like, I know that I'm not going to be able to, like, just joke around with them, so I'm like, I'm going to impress him by how high I can jump on this trampoline.

And again, this is all new information to me.

We're in his backyard, and, like, me and what this other kid get? Like, we're taking turns going on the trampoline. I'm on with this other kid, and I'm jumping. So fucking your headline in the tramp, dude.

I'm.

And he he walks out and he's, like, standing there. And I'm like, just jumping as high as I fucking can. Being like, chevy Chase is. I'm thinking Chevy Chase is gonna go, holy shit.

This kid's not.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, what's your situation?

Yeah, dude, like, you wanna go on the road?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a comedian?

I'm gonna make this kid a star.

Yeah.

And instead he goes, get off my trampoline. You're jumping too high. It's dangerous. And I was like, oh, man. And I get off the trampoline, and then he just jumps on the trampoline with my friend. And I was just standing there, like, damn jealous.

Yeah, he took your air.

Yeah.

So they just did that.

And I wasn't allowed on the only thing I was good.

That's such a little kid thing, too. You remember when you were, like, twelve and you're like, if I, you know, shoot hoops? Yeah. Like, someone's gonna drive me. Like, I need that kid in the NBA.

That's how my mom thought. Like, when I first started doing stand up, like, two years later, my boy Luke Cunningham, got into Fallon as a writer. And my mom's like, why don't you just ask Luke to get in? I was like, my. You think that's just how it works? Like, somebody just is doing that now, and you just go, hey, Luke, can you ask Fallon?

I mean, that's literally what happened with Shane.

Never met Chevy Chase again, right?

No, no. He took us through his whole house. He played piano for us. Yeah, yeah. It was really crazy. And then we played his security guards in basketball on his, like, private court, his outdoor court, and then we just went home.

What a day.

I have heard he's a dick, though. And that story confirms it to me.

Yeah, yeah. It's funny. I, like, said that to someone once. I was like, he's a fucking dick, man. And he treated us like a bunch of assholes. And he was like. It was like. It was when I was an adult and there was another adult man who's like, yeah, a bunch of fucking 13 year olds at his house.

Of course he was a dick.

That would be the one time he was actually in the right. Yo. Yeah, Jerry Chase is a dick, but not this.

I don't like the more I don't even know how that kid pitched his girlfriend on the idea.

Yeah, you were in a barn watching his girlfriend and another dude dance.

Dance. Yeah.

So, like, one of those stories, you just go, you check in on that person, find out where they live, and go, hey, see if they're still alive or, you know.

Yeah.

Self inflicted gunshot.

It was a competitive ballroom dancing. Was it being, like, judged?

I mean, I don't remember being. Calm down. Ballroom dancing.

Me?

I'm being competitive.

Yeah. Imagine just casually ballroom dancing.

Yeah, true.

Not much.

Lazily.

Yeah.

Fuck out of my ballroom work for this.

Yeah.

Dragging your.

What a story.

And I remember my parents. I don't even know if they. I think they might have just thought I went out and was, like, smoking weed or something.

No, I was getting yelled at by Chuck.

I was like, I just got back from Chevy Chase's house, and they were like, cool, go to bed.

Take acid this time. What the hell?

Yeah. I remember, like, leading up to it, I was like, I'm not coming home after practice today. I have to go to Chevy Chase's house. And they were like, okay, so walk.

Us through the start of the podcast, because I want to know how you guys got from, like, point a when you started podcasting together to where we're at right now and how it took off, the whole story behind it.

I mean, we were just drinking together.

We.

Yeah, we were just drunk over the pandemic together. And we were watching. We were going through the Sopranos. We were watching every episode of the Sopranos.

You guys were roommates?

Yeah, yeah. Just drinking whiskey, and we were just having fun time, like, talking shit.

There's a deeper story to this where I, from my perspective, we weren't, as I said, the last pod, Chris and I weren't getting along because he was in different. It wasn't a big, unbeknownst to me.

Yeah. You didn't like.

No, no, I just didn't. I didn't know Chris, cuz, like, he wasn't hanging out. He would just go out to shows a crit with Shane, and I wasn't. I wasn't going out with those guys at that time. And I felt like there was just such a disconnect with somebody living in the apartment that I was like, he was more Shane's boy at that time.

Ah.

And then when Shane started popping off and being out a lot, Chris and I finally got to know each other and, like, a couple things happen, and, like, we started becoming, like, close friends, and then the pandemic. Pandemic happened. Then we came back and started getting fucked up. And then he kept saying, like, yeah, we should start a podcast. And I was coming off the heels of a podcast I hated doing for, like, three years, and I was like, shut up. Nice. Laughed it off.

Yeah.

He was like, no, you just got.

Out of a podcast relationship. Yeah, I don't want to get my right.

Yeah, I'm not trying to fuck anybody else.

Yeah, yeah.

And then finally you just kept saying, he's like, we'll do it tomorrow. I kept trying to get him drunk. You know that when you were like, he got all the equipment.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

He set a date. He's like, all right, tomorrow we're gonna do a podcast. I'm like, all right. So the next day, I was.

Kept trying to get me, let's go to man. No, I know it's a hard, heavy lift.

No. Like two drunks to say, open up the refrigerator. No.

Every step of the way, Tommy was taking his heels. He didn't want to do it.

We recorded one.

He was like, don't put it out. And then I remember, like, I edited it and, like, put it together, and he was like, don't put it out. Let's bank a bunch. And then I just spazzed and just put it online and, like, went to the gym and ran as I was so pissed. And then it did really well. Yeah, I mean, well, you know.

No, it was a immediate, like, we had, like, a good reaction. I just didn't. I'd never done a podcast with. Outside of being a guest with friends, I never had just two guys.

Right.

So, like, you don't know. You kind of black out while you're talking. You don't know what you said.

Yep.

And you don't know how went.

Yeah.

Cuz you don't know what other people perceive is funny.

Yep.

So you're having a fucking blast in a way. But is it the best you could be? Never. And then you read comments going, that's for fucking hilarious. You're like, oh, shit.

Yeah.

And then we just did it every week. But it's all because he.

And then there was, like, kind of a nice thing where we. We like. Because we had only really been, like, hanging out every day for like a month.

Yeah.

Like, we were spending, like, every, like, we. He was getting me to go to the gym because I was sad. So it's like going to the gym and then we get drunk at night. And so we was like a month of that. So we didn't really know each other that well. So the start of it was very fun because you're just, like, literally learning about a person but already, like, very much in sync with them.

Right.

You know what I mean? I think it's tough to, like, start a podcast if you've known some from someone for, like, 20 years.

Yeah.

Then they're telling a story, and you're.

Like, yeah, yeah, we.

I think the most important part, not that I'm trying to get people to start podcasts, but is, like, you have to have someone that has different, differing opinions, a total different perspective on life. That's where the content comes from, is, like, the conflict.

Yeah.

Like you guys says, naturally, I'm baffled. And the shit I say, he's baffled. It's, like, easy to talk for an hour. An hour flies when you're just going, you're a fucking idiot.

Right.

On both sides, we're just ping pong, and you're fucking idiot. So then all of a sudden, you just go, oh, shit, that was fun. Yeah, but you're still fucking idiot. Then you do it again, and it's. It's been two and a half years, so it's not gonna slow down.

No, I mean, it's great. It's doing a great job. I mean, like, the. I think the relationship you have with each other, that's. I mean, that's what this podcast is to where it's, like, we're dumb. We don't know where we're not, like, actually giving you actually insight about sports. We're just talking about sports.

Right.

As sports fans. Right. And people like the relationships more than anything, 100%.

They want to feel like they're hanging out.

Right, exactly.

It's also good that sports just gives us brand new material to work with.

That's everything we have.

Scotty Scheffler gets arrested on Friday. I was like, well, all right. That Monday shows dumb.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't have to ask my best friend how he's doing.

Yeah.

Talk about Sheffield.

Yeah, yeah. What happened with that? They wrote that in such a confusing way, that article.

I was saying that when I woke up, the first 30 seconds that I was awake, I was like, scotty Sheffer killed someone.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Fuck. Just happened. No, he. He was like, try. Someone, actually, tragically did die one. Yeah.

Oh, before he got there.

Yep. Yeah. So he was.

No, they have to execute someone every time he shows up.

That was a great one.

Mister Sheplas here.

And then he. He was trying to bypass traffic, and a cop who probably didn't know who he was tried to stop him and.

Was like, he does look like every golfing.

Right, right.

He does. But apparently, he was in, like, a specially marked car that the tournament gives you. It's like this white lexus that all the players drive.

The cop fucked up.

Yeah.

Really? It comes down to, I think the cop didn't realize that he was a play, like, playing in the tournament. And so someone died, though.

It's not like you get vip access to it.

Well, he wasn't running through the crime scene, was trying to go around to.

Get into the tournament. Yeah.

They were saying there's an investigation still going on. He was like, yeah, I'm still playing the tournament. The cop grabbed the window, and he's like, what are you. What are you doing? And they drug him for, like, 300 yards.

Well, that's the way they wrote it.

There's.

He was drugged to the ground, which I don't believe.

Yeah, there's no way he gets out of jail that quickly.

The charges were also already dropped right there.

They might be dropped today. I'm thinking that they're probably going to be dropped because it sounds from the report, like the cop ran after the car, probably grabbed onto it, and then fell down. And then he got up. He was like, oh, my wrist has a scratch on it. His pants, by the way, the real story, his pants. The officer's pants were damaged beyond repair. So that was beyond repair.

To give you an idea of how gentle it went, the officers pants, valued.

At $89, were damaged beyond. That's officially written in there.

They had to throw in something to make it like, why did you arrest Scotty Sheffield? My pants, dude.

Yeah, my bird dogs.

Who's gonna fucking take this?

Wait, did they arrest him later or.

No, no, right away.

Get up and go.

Arrest him on site.

On site. They arrest him.

He got out and shot like, a fucking 66.

Yeah.

Yeah. He got out of prison and shot, like, a five. Under the fix.

Under. They put him 500.

Yeah, they put him in the orange jumpsuit, and they took his mug shot, which is just a fucking hilarious mug shot.

Very funny.

Because Scotty Shuffler is the most boring person on planet Earth. Here he is in a mug shot like fucking Frank Sinatra back.

So.

So they let him out. He goes back to the golf course. I was hoping he was gonna wear the orange jumpsuit on the course. That would have been awesome.

Did you see that kid who had the screen print t shirt?

Yeah.

His headshot at the fucking first round.

Yeah.

I just went to a screen printing t shirt company. Oh, we had the headshot.

We had the shirts in the store instantly.

Oh, did you?

Oh, yeah.

Jesus.

But showing the initiative to, like, drive to the store.

Yeah.

Get one printed up and have one.

It's funny to show.

Oh, that.

That guy was panicking the whole time, too.

He's just like, fuck, I gotta get.

That fucking another person.

If he missed one of those, like, this idiot should have made a hundred of them and sold them.

Scotty Scheffler getting arrested. Probably bought Miss Peach's Dave's dog, like a hundred thousand dollar bed. Yeah, that happened all in one morning.

Yeah, I remember when OJ got arrested, we had free the juice t shirts down by Veterans Stadium for Birds games. Like every. Yeah, that was like the same day. It was like a Sunday or something. Yeah, they had just got a free of t shirts.

Probably. Probably did. Probably didn't. Yeah. Age perfectly.

Yeah, that's all right. He went to fucking quitting years old.

That's what's gonna happen when you're a billionaire. They're gonna have. They're gonna get the photo of you saying, look at this guy.

Wait, so I had a question about that. So you lived with Shane when everything happened with SNL?

Yeah.

Did you? Were you just, like, standing over me? Like, man, that sucks.

Like, I don't know how you would know there was. You know, I'm not gonna speak for him, but, like, he. The way he handled it. Shane has a very, like, he's. He's just like, yeah, it sucks, but.

Like, yeah, no, he's.

Yeah, very, like, yeah, internal. He's a fuck. He was the man about it.

Yeah, but he really.

After it came out. Yeah, he's obviously like, yeah, it was hell.

Yeah, he's.

Every day he's getting bombarded. So I think the safe space for home was like, just chill. Don't fucking bring up. Just be best friends. It's. Yeah, hang out.

Yeah, you don't want to smart because.

He'S getting fucking shelled everywhere else online.

Just.

I can't imagine.

It feels like. Yeah. When that happens. When we had it, but not to that.

What?

Yeah, he was just on the couch chillin.

Yeah, video games.

But that.

I think that's why people. Yeah, I think that's why they love him.

The schedule was the same, except every once in a while he'd get up and take a phone call and it was like some massively powerful person.

He come back on the couch, unpause.

Man.

That'S perfect.

Yeah, that is why.

That's why everyone loved the way.

I get that question all the time. Like, is Shane really liked how. Dude, it's. Yeah, 1 billion%.

He's just one of the bros. Like, it couldn't be more one of the bros.

It's awesome.

I mean, even it Brady's roast. When everyone's in the tux and he's in a sweatshirt, camera pan. We're like, what the fuck, dude?

He walked up like. He walked up like Steinway. I got to get a jacket for this fucking black tie event. He was, like, doing that show with, like, Jon Stewart.

Oh, yeah.

I forget what it's called. And he came back in, like, 15 minutes. He goes, I can't do it. He walked into, like, the gap, and he goes, nope. Turns around, come home.

I've had that happen so many times where I walk in somewhere like, yeah, I'm gonna get something nice.

Yeah, put it on. No, it's not me.

Can't do that.

I'm trying on women's shoes.

Yeah, I live in need of.

Thanks, pal.

Yeah. What's that about? Yeah.

What I like to care about. How I dress.

Yeah.

How I smell.

Yeah.

It's always been my mo.

Mm.

You like, you like, you actually wear women's shoes?

No, I'm just saying. Do love the shop. And I. It's very time I didn't find.

Yeah.

Something for myself. I jump into the women's section.

Yeah. The best.

It's a very. I strung that along way too far. The joke itself. I apologize. Cut that.

The best part about, like, very italian men is that they're, like, I'm alpha masculine, but they're just, like, right on the line of, like, dressing high heels in, like, women's fashion. Like, yeah, I like fashion.

Yeah.

But, dude, I'm not. I'm mostly irish. I'm like a whopping sheep's clothing.

Yeah, that's actually.

You guys actually have. It's a very complicated name to look up because I'm sure you get. Get this a lot, but when I was just googling you guys to try to see what you guys were all about, I typed in O'Connor Pope, and the first, like, three pages was just Sinead O'Connor on. That's it. Yeah.

Yeah.

My real name is Tom Papa. I had to change it, cuz. It's Tom Papa.

Who's Tom Papa?

Comic. He's like a big name comic.

Yeah.

Okay.

He's like Seinfeld.

That kind of sucks. He cucked your name. Yeah.

But Tommy Pope's a strong nami.

Pope rules.

Yeah, I'm. Was your. Were your parents mad when you had changes?

No. I mean, my dad gave me shit. Well, my mom still doesn't even know what I do.

Really?

Yeah.

The only thing she's ever complimented me on was getting on fucking law and order all the shit I've done.

What? You play in law and order, you're.

The rapist or you stop a rape.

Yeah, right. Which one?

You stopped my indian wife from getting raped.

Hell, yeah.

My goddamn hero.

Yes.

That's my dream, actually, is to play the. The guy in law and order that finds a body at the start of. So, yeah, 5 seconds and.

Yeah.

Behind a dumpster. What the hell? You're going for a jog or something? What's this? And then that's what I was.

I was the froze in the very. I was in the intro only. Intro only.

That's it. Yeah.

I said, yeah, but the. I will say that episode is a wild, cold open.

Someone's trying to rape your wife.

That's. Dude, they run. They run out of ideas.

I don't know if you ever seen law and order.

But that. That episode gets watched a lot. Not because of me, but it's like, the actual episode itself is, like, pretty good, apparently.

So you get a nice residual.

I mean, the fact that I get residuals quarterly is hilarious.

Yeah. What is ago? What's the check?

I get, like ten grand every three weeks. No, it's like a few hundred bucks.

Yeah. Yeah.

Do they pay more if you're a rapist or if you're a guy that stops.

Great question. I'm gonna call my agent.

There should be. There should definitely be, like, hazard pay if you get the rapist position.

Yeah, they pay you double.

Yeah, that's gonna be on your.

So we recognize your fucking pig.

Yeah.

All these dumb fucking drunk housewives really don't. They don't understand it's a fake show. Yeah, I fucking recognize you. You raped somebody.

They hired that rapist to be in a tv show on Netflix.

I still kind of hate walking Phoenix from the Gladiator.

Really?

Yeah.

Russell Crowe.

Yeah, I hated his character. And when I was like. Again, I was like, nine years old, and I hated him so much.

And it's probably even when he's pilot.

Even when he's in movies now. I'm like, I don't like this guy.

Yeah, no, that's true.

When you heard, like, he doesn't have a redeeming character arc. Right.

In any movie signs, kind of.

I never saw.

Yeah, we played Johnny Cash.

He was great in that.

He's obvious I never saw.

Correct.

Yeah.

Fucking love that dude.

He's an awesome actor, but, yeah, that. That is funny because it does stick in your head. If you see someone like a bad guy in one movie, you're like that guy.

Yeah.

Well, you got a type. You got to be typecast when you have that villain look.

Yeah.

It's such a fucking look.

Yeah, he does.

Can't be an everyday guy getting, like, making a woman swoon.

How he was in her.

Yeah, true.

Yeah, I fell for that.

That.

Really.

So how, in terms of acting, how was it acting on tires? We were there ever moments where you're like, fuck, I'm not, like, up to everyone else's standard here?

Yeah.

The whole time.

Okay.

Yeah.

The entire time, you're just like, how.

Many do you guys do a lot of takes.

No, I love that.

I feel like it wouldn't be a big take show.

Well, the show is about chain, so, like. And also his genius is just, like, improving. So, like, right. Once you just watch him go off kind of.

Right.

There's other characters that are just, like, just line items to get the story pushing.

Yeah.

There's not really much room for.

And there was just the thing where that. That the. Those episodes were shot on, like, a pretty insanely tight schedule.

Yeah.

So. Yeah, yeah, so they were.

Yeah.

McKeever's genius is trying to keep everything fucking. You know, you have deadlines for, like, where we at at this time? How much do we get shot? And you have a shot schedule every morning going. This shots getting done by, you know, 11:00 a.m. we got it after lunch. We got to get this next shot down by 1234.

You know, our guy Francis is in it.

Oh, yes.

Yeah. With Stavi.

He's fantastic.

Yeah. Great dramatic actor.

Yeah.

Yeah. Are there any, like, legendary stand up comedians, really, really talented stand up comedians that just can't act? Is it like. Oh, totally different skill set all the time.

1 million%. Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't.

I don't know I'm gonna say name, but yes, they're objectively.

It doesn't always translate. Yeah.

Yeah.

Does feel weird that I'll tell you off air. Yeah.

I've seen do stuff, and it's like.

Wolf, but I do feel it goes in the opposite direction more. Like. Like, I feel like comedians become serious, like, really good serious actors more than a serious actor becomes.

Agreed.

Yes.

Yes.

Outside of, like, Jeff Daniel.

1 million. Yes.

Yeah, we.

Jeff Daniels was who? Siri?

We're watching it right now. We just started re watching it.

The. What?

He's in. He's in a bunch of, like.

Yeah, no, I know. Yeah.

He's also in, like, dumb and dumb.

Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

What's it.

What's it called?

Godless.

Godless?

Yeah, yeah.

You know godless. No, dude, he's so fucking good.

He's a great actor. Yeah, that's.

Yeah, it's. There's a ton. It's more like exactly how he put it there.

Yeah, yeah.

You can take them all stage. You're like, you can't act unless it's them. A lot of those guys playing so successful.

Yeah.

Themselves.

Yes. Yeah, yes.

Or some version of themselves.

Then it works.

That's a great.

That is a dream.

That would also be so embarrassing though, if you sucked at playing yourself.

Yeah, the red light comes on, you just.

Yeah, you like.

Do what you do. You're like, I. What do I do?

Yeah, that is like. I mean, we get.

What do you think I am at Parson?

Tell me what I am helping.

There's a sect of line.

Give me some stuff of mine I can watch.

There's a sect of our fans that think that like everyone in this like, fun factory is like acting. It's like, do you know how hard that would be? Yeah, we have the weirdest people.

Yeah, yeah.

Like they're all themselves.

Yeah, you'd be making. Yeah, you'd be making blockbuster movies. Best movies of all.

They also just don't know how much content it is required to get the good stuff.

Right, y'all, we're taping all the time.

Yeah, we here for fucking hours. Yeah, there's gonna be. You're gonna see 45 minutes of stuff. Yeah, it's like, do that for 8 hours a day.

Yeah, I think something funny will happen.

To see the full four. You better brace yourself.

Yeah.

For that fucking. Yeah.

Yeah, you were you. Your anger came out. So what? So you guys part of your relationship and why the podcast works? You guys bicker all the time. You told me a story about the chicken nuggets. What's the other biggest fight you guys have been in? Because I just love the fact that you guys bicker. And then I think the best part about what you guys have going is that you bicker and you know that you're not holding it like to the next day. Yeah, that's. It's not fun if it was anger that stayed. Yeah, like, I don't want to watch this. It's very funny when it's like a hundred, like zero to 100 anger and then right back to zero.

Well, the funny thing is that if you do bring it up again, we get. Get mad again.

So what finger thing came up again?

I like. Yeah, we were both upset.

What's another one that like, I just like pissed you guys off, dude.

I think it's just like, you know, it's a. It's a husband wife relationship. Especially when you're living together.

Who's a husband?

You're done.

Don'T you star?

I mean, I have my idea of who the husband is. You guys want to.

He would be husband cuz I'm caretaker. Okay, I know what you're gonna say.

No, no, that wasn't what I was gonna say.

Okay, what are you gonna say?

That is the best way to.

I'm gonna say Chris is the husband fucks you in the asshole. Oh, yeah.

I wish there was a payoff for the hell we go through. I wish, I wish, I wish you bob sports all day. I meant sexually.

Oh.

Bopping around my.

There isn't never coming on your belly thinking of me.

Have you guys ever kissed?

No.

No, we can't.

Wanna try it now?

No, I don't.

Ever. Every year on a.

We get all of our guests to.

Kiss every year on your birthday.

You guys, he was born on January 30. That was January 31. Same year passing of the tortoise.

Yeah, I like that.

Now why did you ever thought about.

Kissing your call straight lip.

It's honestly kind of weird if you haven't thought about kissing each other.

No, I'm.

What do you mean thought about it? This is like when people ask you to think about suicide.

It's like, well, yeah, of course.

Yeah.

Thought about it. Never thought about it. Yeah, yeah, I've.

Yeah, my brother asked me that in 6th.

A lot of things I fancy.

He was in 8th grade. He asked me if he's like, what do you mean you don't think about suicide? I was like, why? I was like, how? Why would you think about suicide? Then you get older, you're like, I've thought about 20 different ways I'd kill myself.

Yeah.

You're not making a plan. No, just like.

No, but also should be.

It's like standing on top of a high building and being like, what if I jumped? Dude doesn't have that.

The ultimate. Would you rather.

And I don't want to do it that way.

Would you rather continue on with this charade?

The ultimate nap. Finally get rest.

I. Yeah, like are the. The. You know, you see a cop and in line like in a donut shop.

You'Re like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Be sick.

The imp of the perverse.

Yeah.

To be honest with you. Go back to that question. It was. It was a perfect storm at that moment. I mean, we still bicker about everything but, like, the perfect storm of living together, right?

You.

Then you're. Then you're getting into, like, lifestyle differences. Then you're getting into. There's so many elements of pressure, like work or, like, fucking stand up, and then you just. All that shit just builds its pressure cooker and eventually something's gonna pop off. Whether it's about a fucking chicken finger, it's really not. It's about frustrations around life.

Right?

Yeah.

And if you're only around one dude the whole fucking time, that person's gonna get it. It's why you and your girlfriend always fight about, it'll be fucking Chardonnay. But it's not about Chardonnay. It's about your breath while you were fucking three years ago. It could be anything. It could be absolutely anything. And I think a healthy relationship requires a bunch of that.

Yeah. So has the podcast gotten better since you guys moved out from each other?

No, I think it's pretty much the same. Same, yeah, yeah, we see.

Do you guys miss it? The, like, living together? Because, like, that is obviously, like, having that moment where you're like, oh, man.

I think, held accountable because a lot of times, you know what I mean? You, like, think you're changing your life, but nothing's really changed.

Yeah.

So on the pod, you're like, I'm doing this now. And when you're living together, the other person can go, no, you aren't.

Yeah.

Percent not doing that. Yeah, I see it every day.

Living apart.

You can be like, no, I've been at the gym every day. 09:00 a.m. cleaning now.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah.

No, but I don't. The missing thing is, like, we see enough each of each other. If it was just a podcast and then I didn't see him, it's like, we are best friends, so it's like, we go. We see each other almost every day anyway.

Yeah.

So it's nice having the break. Yeah, it's having a.

There's also the weird thing. I don't know if you guys run into this where it's like, when you're not talking on microphones now, you're like, don't talk to me.

Yeah, no, yeah, we don't. Save it for.

Don't tell me a hilarious thing that. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, always.

I can't monetize it.

Always stream so much now.

We're like, we're watching the games, and we're usually on some sort of live stream. So when that happens, you can't like, you can't save anything that you want to say at the time. Of course, you have to, like.

Yeah.

I mean.

Yeah.

The difference between how intimate and cool this show is right now than having a panel eight dudes talking about what they did last week. I'd rather get all this shit off my chest about how we bicker.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, having something intimate and, like, tell a story.

Right.

As opposed to live livestreams. Tough. That's like a. That's a. That's hard.

Yeah. Live streams are tough.

That is.

We are that all Sunday too, for, like, football games and stuff.

Crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

So what we do is typically, if it's within, like, ten minutes of the show and we're talking. We're talking about the games, if we start to, like, hit something that we get excited about, we're like, okay, let's save it. Yeah. Save all this.

Do you guys get. Also, the weird one that we get is, like, whenever you're anywhere, they're like, hey, where's PFt? Like, I was. I was.

Yeah, yeah.

I was in France on vacation with my wife, and a guy was like, hey, where's Pft? Yeah. Like, what? Yeah, yeah. I'm in fucking France on vacation.

Yeah.

Like, people in their head are like, yeah. They're just always, get him a room.

Yeah.

And you stop and thinking a teardrop, like, where is he?

It's home alone.

He snaps up like. Like, Kathryn O'Hara. I got. I get that in bars sometimes if it's, like, midnight or later, they'll be like, where's big cat? It was like, he's probably with his children.

Yeah. I've been asleep since 10:00. Yeah, I gotta get up at six in the morning.

It's also funny that, like, when you. When you do talk, it winds up just being about stuff you can't say.

Yeah.

So then it's just this dark.

Yeah, yeah.

Three minutes of the n word. Just the party when I kick the toaster by ax.

Fucking furious. Yeah.

But you stop a toe buzz.

It's awesome for you guys. The. It's cool to see, like, the success and, like, I. Yeah. I mean, doing a podcast, one of your best friends is like. It's fun. It's fucking dream job. We get to do this every day. Yeah, yeah. It's a joke.

Yeah.

It's like.

But it is a talent. I will say, like, going through it. It's a lot of work.

I get. I still have imposter syndrome all the time. Like, am I. Am I interesting? Or.

Oh, good. You should have.

Yeah, right, right. I'm like, I'm not interesting. I just got lucky.

Yeah.

Yeah. Like, I got lucky. Time and place, like, everything fell together. Yeah. Because I'm like, I'll listen myself back. Like, you're fucking moron.

Yeah.

Yeah, of course.

But it is corny as hell when people, like, reach out to you saying, like, you literally make my life better.

Yeah. Oh, the best. Those are the best.

That's pretty cool. You didn't kill yourself.

Yeah.

Nice. Yeah, that went up on the wall.

You wanted to hear what we had to say about the Bengals versus the Texans.

Cool. Yeah.

Another day on this earth.

Still wind up just going like, man, I should probably just start taking this more serious. I didn't realize I was saving lives out there.

Do you guys prep for your shows?

No, never.

You just sit down.

Yeah. There's never even a conversation about it, really.

You just sit down, press record. Let's go.

And usually Chris go. He hits record on the box and goes, all right. And then we just start talking.

I don't know.

I feel like anytime you prep, it winds up coming out in authentic.

Yeah.

Yeah. Feeling prepped.

Yeah.

Or you.

Or you wind up getting mad because, like, you had and I prepped a thing, and then you say it, and the conversation doesn't set you up the way you want it to be set up internally.

Prep. It's like I always forget the story that happened, like, on the road or something. Like. Like that guy falling asleep on the toilet. And Cleveland.

Oh, yeah.

And I was like, oh, at the very end of the podcast, like, you even when you have a chunk to burn.

Yeah.

It'll be ten minutes.

Yeah.

Funny as fuck on this. You think it would just start like that? It's like, no, you just start with.

Normal, and it's better when it comes up to the. Ooh.

Yeah. But I always forget. And then you just go, ah. Fucking then you just never say it.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, I had one last question. Roback question. Rho back.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Cusps, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. all right, so this has been awesome. Everyone go check out stuff island. They're on the road.

Yeah.

I don't know when we're gonna air this, but you can go check out their dates. I think they're doing. You guys doing an east coast swing soon?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next. Next week.

New York.

Yeah. Connecticut, 29th through the 6th. Yeah.

Albany, Boston. Providence.

Maine.

Portland.

Yeah, we're going west and then watch tires. Everyone's gonna watch tires.

Yes.

So I guess that's my last question. Like, I feel like this show is gonna be a monster, monster hit. Do you, have you guys had that, like, date circled? Like, oh, shit. When this date happens now, things might be a little different.

It's funny. Somebody asked Chris that on the, on the. Ask both of us when we do the dual mic on the. On our set. So we do it. Our shows, there's stand up for both of us, and then we come out and dual mics, and then we just, at the end, we're like, you got any questions for us? And one kid asked that. He was like, you, do you foresee, like, a dramatic life change? Are you excited for the 23rd? It's like, I don't know. I'll speak for myself. It's like, it's another thing. It's another thing. It's.

But it might.

I'm not ready.

Yeah.

The thought process.

Mm hmm.

Yet, it's like, you know, read into the turf.

Yeah.

Try not to read into the turf situation.

Right. You're thinking about hopefully.

Yeah, yeah.

Prepare yourself for suicide. Just.

Yeah. But it is crazy to think about that. It could be like, that could be a moment where you look back ten years from now. You're like, for sure the change, right?

Yeah.

I think you wind up also just, like, being concerned about other things. You're like, stand up and is the podcast good? And you're like, it would suck if this thing popped off and then we sucked. Yeah, the other stuff.

Yeah.

Want to be good at, you know.

Yeah.

There's finally get some attention and then everyone's like, man, their stand up sucks.

Yeah, this guy's. Yeah, trampoline jump wasn't even that high.

The worst feeling being like, if more people find out, those might be the people that are gonna hate me.

Yeah.

Maybe everybody waiting for that, like, the show to totally take off and everyone be like, but that one guy fucking hate.

Oh, no, I'm thinking about, like, that is. Yeah. All right. That will never know.

Killed off. Yeah.

You'll have to hang out with.

Your best episode of season two is slip and fall.

Shane runs you over with a car filly, a tardo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, well, thanks, boys.

Yeah, great having us.

You guys are gonna do some cooking with Donnie tomorrow. Yeah. What's for lunch? You guys have a great cooking show as well.

Yeah, look at this. Check out the patriot.

Go to patreon.com slash stuff island.

Oh, I should have said the patriot yeah. How much we making off the picture?

Don't worry.

Doing good. We are good.

We can re doing all.

Every cent helps. How much we're doing?

I can't tell you that.

This is public.

Yeah, it is.

The number.

No, that's okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

We work our dicks off.

We're doing good.

Everyone subscribe to the page.

It's $5 for four extra hours of our podcast.

Love that.

$10 for four extra hours of podcast, plus a shitload of cooking every month.

Love that.

There's. That. We're up to, like, 35 episodes of our cooking show. It's like an hour and a half, between a half hour to an hour and a half of us showing you, me showing you how to cook.

Are you trained at the time cook?

Huh?

Are you, like, a trained cook, or is it just like, learning how to do?

I learned. I'm self trained.

Yeah.

I think that is kind of the beauty of the show.

Yeah.

Is that it's. It's plausible recipes.

Yeah, yeah. We're just showing. It's like, elevated recipes that anybody can do. It's things you would never think you could possibly do. And I show you process how to do it. All this is simplistic.

What's your best dish? If we said we want one, I want to be like, hey, Tommy, if you give me a dish and it's the best I've ever had, I'll give you a million bucks.

I. Dude.

Oh.

I'm not gonna lie. We were. Didn't have an idea, and I was like, you should make general. So's chicken, and Tommy made it. It was the best. Fucking general chose chicken.

Oh, yeah. It was really good.

It was fucking, um, I don't know if it's probably your favorite, but holy sh.

I will say, like, in terms of dishes where ease of making it for anybody, and. And the. And the result being mind blowing. It's like a short rib ragu or lamb shank ragu with risotto.

Okay.

We're like, if you looked at that dish, you're like, I can't do this, dude. I don't even cook. It's like, I'll show you exactly how to do that. It's a panty dropper. It's like a great date night cook that is just one pot. After you do all the prep, let it do its own thing, and then fucking see what happens.

Seems fancy. Short rib just seems fancy when you say, yeah, yeah. I wonder how to cook.

You're just searing off meat, cooking it with a mirepoix and then putting it wine, beef broth, some herbs, putting the pot into the oven, letting it cook for 4 hours.

I want this.

I'm gonna check it out.

It's fucking incredible cook for you, the general so is.

Well that amazing me, it's a power thing. I didn't know that you. Yeah, I didn't think it's going to a chinese restaurant. They only they have the machine proper walk to.

I gotta walk on Amazon, $30.

Um.

It was fucking incredible me up, to be honest.

The generals, cuz I kind of thought.

The same thing when we made it. It would either be exactly blah, regular.

Whatever, or gelatin diet worse it make it with pure ingredients that like replace the dog shit.

Yeah.

And filler that these chinese locations.

I do like Msg though, Ms cheese.

I'm telling you can buy that on your own. Yeah, yeah, you can buy.

And that is easy to make.

Yeah, that was easy.

Yeah, it was crazy easy to make. It's literally just rice. And you like throw some chicken in flour, basically.

All right, so check out the patreon.

Yeah.

Thank you boys for stopping by. Appreciate it. Yeah, good luck with tires.

Thank you.

You, I mean, Tommy, this is probably the start of like an incredible career. And Chris, everyone's gonna hate your character.

I shouldn't have put that into the universe.

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Yeah. And guess what? Probably at 20 right now, because he had to get on a flight to the shore to kiss some boys. He's going to be kissing so many boys this weekend. You know it. Hank, you want to start us off fire fest?

Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to be a big man here.

Whoa. What has he ever done?

I could not talk about it. I could run away.

He slept in.

I got banged.

Oh.

Hank, did you turn around, look back at it.

As hard as I've ever been. By dildo. By one of my own, Nick Fossoli. He works here.

Eva. Oh, yeah, I forgot about this clip.

This is my favorite.

Put this clip.

The clip.

That's what I'm saying.

Other people run away.

Big cat and pft. They would, like, pull the fucking big dick card and cut everything and be like, you're not. We're not putting this out.

Ever. Done.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Henry Lockwood. Dan, you have literally George Brett, an entire career. George, when I was naked, they basically.

Made it look like I was.

You're comparing me being naked?

Well, you're about to ask me when.

You'Ve ever done it. I was. No, no, no, no.

That was also seven years ago.

And it was also. I was literally naked. You want to put that out? Saying.

I'm just saying.

I'm just saying you have made a living. A living. A great living. Drives now off of taking bad pictures, bad angles, bad everything of me.

No.

Yes.

You just have bad.

Yeah, okay. And I know you put them out. All right, fine.

But I don't do it intentionally. I like a picture.

He just tried to say me being naked by accidentally peeping Tom tomming ourselves with the. With a GoPro is the same as you sucking Nicki smokes dick.

So we are in the gambling cave. We're talking, I'm eating my lunch, and me, Nicki smokes, are arguing. He comes over to show me a clip. And Fossoli, camera guy, had the camera angle.

He's much more than a camera guy.

Yeah, he's not for long.

He was angled perfectly where it. You couldn't see that I was eating the food. You could just see my mouth moving. And Nicki smokes was standing up over me. So my, you know, mouth and head was at his abdomen section.

Not abdomen.

A little bit lower, whatever. And it's a horrible looking video. And. And then the second, that's why I got banned, because it's, like, solely one of my guys. Boston.

Well, you didn't get banged. You just got.

No, he knew what he was doing.

He knew what he was doing.

The camera, stop rolling. He goes, oh, that's gonna be a bad look for you. And I was like, what? What the hell, man? If you had literally just moved the camera two inches, right, you would have, you know, seen the accurate portrayal of what was going on. But I'm not gonna hide. I'm just gonna hide.

Wait, but he couldn't have done that, because you can't put. You can't put you sucking his dick.

That's not what I was doing, Hank.

Fact or fiction? The video did numbers.

It hasn't come out yet.

It's definitely doing numbers. Are you a company guy that's head of content?

I'm talking about it right now. A non company guy, a fraud, would run away from it. I'm just gonna embrace the numbers. I'm just gonna, you know, it is what it is, but it just hurt. It just hurts personally that one of my own guys did this to me, because it was. It was truly a bang job, the likes of which I've never seen before. I've never done something as bad to you guys as I got done in this scenario. It does act or fiction.

It does put new meaning to head of content.

I'm pretty sure I can find a ton of times you've done that.

Not intentionally. Not where I was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna purposely set this video up to make you look as bad as humanly possible. You just happen to look bad.

Yeah, I don't think that's true.

It's great, great content. It might be my favorite video ever.

It's crazy.

Wait, you wipe your mouth at one point, you go back in for more.

It's so, so, so.

It's a shocking, shockingly crazy video. And the worst part is, like, fasoli literally could have taken one step to his right, and it would have been a completely different video, and he knew that. And that's. That's what hurts. It's not the fire fest. Isn't that there's a video of me looking like, I'm sucking Nicki Smoke's dick. It's that I got. I got done dirty by someone that was formerly one of my guys.

Well, it sounds like it was good content.

Yeah.

But couldn't you make the argument that facility was actually just doing his job to the most viva? No. Yeah, he was.

No, we try.

This is a funny clip that will. Our job is to create moments that people want to watch and be like, oh, my God, Hank just sucked Nicki Smoke's dick. Wait. Yeah, he did.

Wait a second. Big cat. I remember there was a time in stool streams when we were. We were playing ping pong.

Yeah.

And I went to the corner to wipe off my glasses, and I was facing the corner, and as I was wiping my glasses off, I think Hank put the camera on me from behind, made it look like I was jacking off, and then turned it into a gif.

Interesting.

Those are fact or fiction?

Those are fixed camera angles. Factor.

Fix those.

Factor fiction. Those are fixed camera angles. You as a participant knew where the k. Like, we didn't.

I didn't. Ain't no phone.

I did the same thing.

No, no, no, no.

It wasn't, John wasn't a handheld camera. It wasn't like, I wasn't angled specifically.

Nothing that was handheld in that video.

Either way, if you. If you would like to see what it would. It looks like for Hank to give head. Yeah, watch Viva. Well, no, we put it in here, but, yeah, Hank gives. I'd sex. Decent head.

I think it was pretty good. We should get Joanne Pat on to rate the head.

Decent head.

Yeah.

And it's just courteous of you. You don't want to have his come all over your chin. You do spill a lot on your own chin.

Oh. But, yeah, I'm not. I'm a.

It's a brace.

The content, I'm not gonna run from it, and I'm just not gonna go online for the week.

It's.

It's what, like.

And fire Fossoli.

20, 30 seconds of Hank given a blowjob.

Yeah.

Pip season.

Yeah. Actually, if you say the only critique I have is, I would think Nicki smokes would last longer.

Yeah. Well, Hanks that good.

Yeah.

The goat.

Yeah.

You did actually get a little. The balls there too, right?

It's really good, Hank.

It's a good break. It's a great video. It's a great video stuff. Okay. Pft.

That's a good fire fest. I'm not great. I've had a pretty clean week.

Run from all your shit.

What do you mean? I run for my shit.

You run towards everyone with your mouth open.

Yeah. Hanks a first responder when it comes to giving blowjobs. Here's the sound of a horny guy, and he runs towards the fire.

Oh, you got a hard dick. I got you.

Probably.

You probably. I mean, it's probably good protein to help dunk.

That's a good point.

Some extra protein.

Whatever it takes.

Good point. If you. If you got your dick sucked more often, then maybe be chiller, you wouldn't be so angry.

He's a giver, not a taker.

Also, documentary episode two is coming out. I touched the rim.

Spoiler. Did you suck anywhere, Zick?

No.

Then I'm not watching.

That'll be out today as well.

But do you think I can dunk? By the time October comes around, it's just like it is. Different meaning to dunk.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anything got any more? Empty the clip.

That's it.

Holiday week.

Did you imagine that his penis was a lighthouse?

No.

Can someone make.

Eating tacos.

Can you make my fucking lunch?

That's not.

I was defending Rico Bosco eating tacos, and it's turning.

Hank.

That's not. That's not what eating tacos me means.

I don't think. Wait, is Nicki smokes Latina?

No, I don't think so.

I don't think so either. So it wouldn't be tacos. Well, guinness.

It was Taco Tuesday.

Taco is.

Yeah, the opposite.

Yeah.

Memes. Can you. You know the old gif of Blake? Portals turning into a goat. Can you just make that? But it's Nancy Reagan turning into Hank.

Yeah, like that. That's good. That's good. But maybe Photoshop his head onto Heather Brooke good, too. Oh, shit, Hank, I love it.

Yeah. But we don't even have to do another fire fest. Yeah, that was great, Hank.

Yeah. Probably should have said on the show, but I'm not.

No, you're not running for me. You're not running from. You're not running, Scott. It's hard to run when you're on your knees.

I wasn't on my knees. I'm sitting.

Maybe I'll get Bill Clinton on the show finally.

Yeah.

You'd love that.

Would I?

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm a big, big Bill Clinton guy.

All right, so, pft, what is your fyre fest?

My fyre fest? It's just in general for humanity. Something to be on the lookout for. There's a recent trend that's starting to go viral, and I think it's gonna happen more and more as the summer progresses.

Okay.

It started last night at the Rocket city trash pandas game.

Okay.

Rocket city trash pandas, minor league baseball team. I believe they're Madison, Alabama. I wore their hat, actually, the other day, ironically, they had crowd shots of guys catching cicadas and eating them.

Oh, yeah.

In the stand.

Oh, yeah. Cicada season.

And we're gonna see more and more, I predict, this summer, of just cicada can just. People just grabbing a cicada and eating it on camera.

What's one of those years, right?

They. Yeah.

Where did they want you eat the bugs. There's no first step in eating the bugs. It show is normalizing it.

Yeah. No, we will not eat the bugs.

Every 14 years, Hank.

17. We will not eat the bugs.

Ankle eat anything, Hank.

They're going to try to get us to eat the bugs now, and they're going to say, oh, we don't have any more steak anymore, but we have the bugs. I am, and we're all betas.

I'm opposed to eating the bugs, but I will drink the bugs because there's a Chicago Malort cicada shot.

Yeah.

And I'm a big fan of Malort. Had it for the first time a couple years ago. Drank it several times last summer. I'm going to have to drink the bugs in the Chicago Mallorc shot.

I don't know if I'm going to even drink them bugs.

I will drink.

I don't want the government to have that over me.

I won't eat them.

Swallow them like pills.

Also, the spiders have come back to my.

What? Remember, oh, on your, on your balcony.

They'Re holding you hostage.

Revenge. Yeah. I'm actually scared.

Well, they heard. They heard about you. And they're like, well, Hank, I shoot a lot of white stuff out of my abdomen. Maybe Hank will take care of me.

Yeah, if the. If the average person swallows eight spiders, how many think Hank does? Throat?

Yeah.

Fucking insane.

Do spiders have eight dicks?

I don't know, but Hank can find out.

Yeah, let us know. Sound off in the comments. Hank.

My fiber. I actually texted you guys this, so I. My daughter's birthday was Tuesday. Went to Chuck E. Cheese, was in the zone. Just being a dad with my daughter, just having a great time, just trying. She speed run the whole Chuck e. Cheese. I think we tried every single little ride toy, everything in like maybe 15 minutes. Just go ripping through it all. And then all of a sudden, I have a woman who's like, hey, are you big cat I was like, oh, shit, like this weird Chuck E. Cheese. I was like, yeah. And then she pulled her eight year old son. She's like, yeah, my son recognized you. And I was like, oh. And then the kid was like, yeah, my dad watches all your guys stuff. So I saw you, and I knew who you were, and then I was stuck in that moment, you know, when, like, when we see stoolies out, it's awesome. They're the best fans in the world, but usually, you know, like, it's like, oh, hey. And then maybe a couple quick combo. Who you on tonight? Whatever. I, like, immediately went into, like, I was like, yeah.

So, like, what do you think about Caleb Williams to an eight year old?

Yeah.

And he was just like, yeah, I'm a Bears fan. And then I took a picture with him.

Yeah, you can't say 90% of stuff. And then you think to yourself, is this kid listening to my podcast?

Yeah. So the whole thing was. Just had me rattled. But we are. That's one eight year old that will grow up to be. So shout out, Ryland.

Ryland. Yeah.

Yeah. Hopefully his dad's watching right now.

Love it.

Took a picture with him. Yeah.

That's weird.

Yeah. Eight year old.

You know. You know, I just thought of you. Remember the thing that we used to say that we don't say anymore? Ah, people are gonna start saying that to Hank.

Someone tried to say that to me when I was with my kids at a street festival on Saturday.

That's a shame.

Whispered in my ear, which I appreciate. The whisper.

Yeah, the whisper.

But it also was like, what?

But you know what I'm saying.

Yeah.

This one over here, Hank sucks. It's gonna come back. Yeah.

So, I mean, wait, don't they talking.

To an eight year old right now and then?

No, we're not.

No, I already. Conversation with Ryland. Conversation. Cat, when someone comes up to you said, suck my dick, are you gonna be like, sure.

No. So we don't say anymore.

Right.

But some people might. It's gonna be tough to know who's in Awl and who just saw you in this video, because maybe it's just, like, a gay person that saw your work.

Right. And we can.

They just really want you to.

And we might get t shirts made. I don't.

My. My t shirt about not sucking has a lot of people asking questions that are already answered by my t shirt.

And we don't say that anymore. But do we do that anymore? Yes.

I mean, do whatever you want. What's your freak flag fly? No, I'm saying, I'm not here to judge. I don't personally.

I just.

Tacos in the gambling case, but, you know, whatever floats your boat.

Yeah. Should we actually talk to HR? Hank was sucking someone off in the gambling middle of a Tuesday.

Yeah.

That feels a little sexual harassment.

From who?

So all of us had to watch you do that. You've.

You're all right, then why are you gonna tweet it? That means you won't tweet it, then. Because it's sexual harassment. Deal.

No, because I believe in speaking truth to power, and I think that anything done like that should be brought to light.

Stan already brought it to light.

Good.

You have.

No.

Yes.

The Solis created this false narrative, and you guys are running with it.

Solely was just doing his job. Doing my job. That smile. God bless memes. You got a fire fest. Fucking a, man. But yes. What fucking man.

It's sucking a man.

Sucking a man.

Yeah.

I took a line drive to the foot in softball. Oh, no.

He was trying to do a meme. He shows. Sucking a man was right there for you, memes.

Yeah, I was holding that one. That one in. I took a line drive to the foot. Let us know when you're holding another one in, because we don't want you to, like, pass out.

Seems fucking man.

Fucking a man.

Also, Jake got shat on by a bird.

That's good luck.

It's very good luck. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you got hit by a line drive. Yes.

Why don't you fucking catch it?

Oh, on the foot? Yeah.

Wait.

Yeah. Why did you catch it?

I was standing on second.

So if you were sitting on second, why'd you get called out?

Why did you jump? I tried moving my foot, and it moved it into it. Reactionary. It moved. Yeah. You control your feet? Yeah, my brain. My brain moved it, and I got smoked by it, and we lost, and we've got smoked. Well, you and Max weren't there. I know. So you guys might be the key to winning. I think we are, 100%. Well, maybe more. The max part.

I mean, I'm two, and on the.

Mound, you have a. Maxine.

I've seen you work on the mound. You're not better than that.

That doesn't make sense.

No, it does. It does. You don't know about the mound.

Yeah.

What mound?

Mons pubis.

Yeah. It makes no sense.

Literally, an anatomical.

A better batting average. Yeah.

Then Max?

I think so.

Memes, how many balls in play? I don't.

It's very close.

Bap it back.

What's your exit velo.

Well, Hank hits a lot of triples. He's always on third base.

Yeah, like that.

Hank, I don't. I want you to say numbers.

Numbers. 20.

Did you go deep?

Max is not here, so 20 hitting would be the greatest thing ever.

I should probably switch it up, huh?

Actually, I should take a backup video so he can't think that this is edited.

I'll go 33.

Look, I'm doing a backup video right here.

I'm gonna go eight, three.

Remember when Max never got this? I texted Pug to come in.

Make sure to look away. Big cat.

Come on, pug.

99.

Pug.

That wasn't actually pug, but that's what he's gonna say.

Shane. Pug. Numbers. He said 99. Pug.

Mike was off.

His mic was off. Shane. 21. 21. Pug. Say it again. Pug.

You want to talk about what you want to talk about?

He's got a. Oh, yeah.

I have something to ask of PFT and big cat.

Oh, no.

Not sure if they're going to say yes. It's pretty serious.

Well, as long as it's not, you know, suck your dick. We'll be fine.

No, in the old. In the New York office, we had something that brought everyone together, and it.

Was good camaraderie, but we had a.

Blitz machine in the old office, and.

We don't have one here.

Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

Yes.

What does it mean, brought everyone together? Just brought you together with the machine.

Like the production guys.

Okay. Yeah, that's. Yes. Why? Why are you nervous about asking that? We got to get NBA jam.

I don't know how. Big buck hunter.

Yeah, we gotta get.

Oh, a flight simulator.

Let's get a whole arcade. Yeah.

All of it. That's all rolled into one.

Let's give VR goggles. You put them on, and Hank sucks your dick all next time is cage.

I'm gonna have to make a.

I'm.

Gonna have to ask AI. Hank.

Everyone say their numbers again just in case. 2033-2175 love you guys. Oh, yeah. I already said we'll see you on Tuesday.

Love you guys.

Come on, Harry.

We want to say good night to you.

Don't keep away shining away. Take on me. Take me on.

I want to set it, but I don't.

Say unto me. It's better to take on me. Take me out. I begun. How things that you say. My worries away.

You are the things I've got to remember.

Shino.

I'll be coming for you anyway.

Take on me, take me on. I begun.