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It's purgatory.

It's a purgatory.

We're not in heaven. We're not in hell. We're waiting to get brought into heaven. Yes. Hopefully, it's got a one in, one out policy. They find out that somebody up there did something bad, and then NBA Finals is here.

Yeah, I had it on Monday night. I was like, What the fuck am I supposed to watch?

It's a little mini experience of how we get after the Super Bowl, where there's no sports, and then your mind just starts to wander, and you go a little bit crazy. You start caring about a lot of stuff that you didn't care about before. I just need sports to get back. We spent an entire day talking about the WNBA. I know.

It was a lot. By the way, I don't want to say we told you so, but we told you so. There were some people who were like, Why did you guys talk about WMBA on Sunday night's pod? And also, You guys are being pussies because you're not calling out Angel Reece enough or whatever. We were right. The discourse got even worse on Monday. It's bad. It got so fucking crazy. We had McAfee calling Kaitlyn Clarke that white bitch.

Yeah, but he said in a loving way. I agree.

The context there, but we've been- It looked bad in a quote. We have had moments where our context has been lost. So it's like, I am very sympathetic to Pat, but I also understand how he can get himself in that because the world's crazy and all these people are nuts, and no one cares that Pat saying it in a way that they didn't take it.

It's always fun to start a sentence with, I deeply regret saying that white bitch. Yeah. Nothing good is going to come from that apology. We're on Pat's side. We're on Pat's side. But I also think that if you were to print out a transcript of every part of my take and then read it aloud, not read it loud, put it on a television and see the words that we say, we would probably be in prison. Yeah.

We had Stephen A. Smith getting absolutely owned on his own show. Then to top it all off, this is the of our WMBA talk. But to top it all off, this is more just, again, the discourse has gotten so out of hand. Just play basketball. Let's just talk about basketball. This was from the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board. The foul committed by Chicago Sky Guard, Cheney Carter on Kaitlyn Clarke was egregious. Outside of a sporting event, it would have been seen as an assault. Yeah.

Just shut the fuck up.

Have you ever seen a tackle in the NFL? Just shut the fuck up. Basically, everything that happens inside of a sporting event would assault if it happened outside of a sporting event. How about a 99-mile-an-hour fastball at someone's head?

Just somebody getting onto a train, just being them? Well, how about hockey? How about fighting in hockey? Yeah. Can you imagine if... I was talking to Thais about this the other day. Imagine if there were fights in the NBA, people would fucking hate fighting in the NBA. But Hockey School, I love it. I wish it happened in the NBA. I wish it happened in the WMBA. Just square up.

Yeah, square up. But either way, we were right on that. We were in this time worm hole that sucks. So we're going to do something that's going to make it suck even more and people get more mad at us. We're going to rank the 2024 starting quarterbacks. We do have an NBA preview, finals preview with Rasil coming up. Yes. We do also have a Stanley Cup final preview with Ryan Whitney of Oilers Fame coming on Friday.

While we're covering it, while we're doing this, while we're doing the rankings, if you are not interested in talking about NFL quarterbacks in the month of June, can we just have the Edmondson Oilers fan just Split Screen. She's just on it. Then so she'll be on it, too, while we're talking about NFL.

Also, if you are not interested in ranking quarterbacks, get out.

Yeah.

You could just sit down at any bar in America. You could put me in any airport, Uber. If someone just starts saying, I think this guy is better than this guy, it's like, All right, let's do it.

What's going to be great is how mad people will get. Oh, yeah. So let's make people mad.

Yeah. Okay. We got to start at the bottom, right? Or do we at the top?

So we're doing all 32.

We don't have to do all 32.

I think we should do all 32.

You know what we could do? We could do the cheat code of saying all the rookies are at the bottom.

I don't agree with that.

Oh, you don't? No. Because Daniel Jones is good at this?

Here's what you get to do. You get to say, C. J. Stroud, he proved to us last year that being a rookie is no excuse. You can still be one of the best.

That's true.

Are you saying this because you currently have a rookie quarterback? I'm talking about C. J. Stroud and the precedent that he said last year.

No, I'm just Should we just do the top 10? We could do 31. Just make one fan base really, really mad. Their QB will not be mad. But then when we number it, we have to skip a number. So you see 32. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I like that. All right, what What fan base should we decide to do it? Should we piss off? Should we just do the Falcons?

Michael Pinnx? Oh, we should put Michael Pinnx as the starter. No, Kirk Cousins, I firmly believe he should be number 16. Okay.

Why don't we do the Giants? That's perfect.

Okay. Giants, 32?

No, no, no. No, Daniel Jones.

Okay.

On the list. And then there will be a 32, and we'll skip number 26.

All right. Yeah. I mean, it's got to be the Broncos.

Bo Nicks? Yeah. Bo Nicks will be 32? Yeah. All right, so we put Bo Nicks 32. Let's put Bo Nicks 32, and then we'll work back from there. Okay.

Alex O'Neill.

Is he the starter? Aiden O'Neill. Aiden O'Neill. The former Duke. Alex O'Neill.

Yeah, AOC. I mix up my AOCs.

Is he the starter?

Sure. He might take athlete in NIL history. That's true. Yeah.

Aiden O'Neill- Wait, no, no. Minchou.

Oh, yeah. Minchou. Minchou. Yeah. Okay. How quickly we forget.

Isn't Garner Minchou a rater? Yeah, he is a rater. I think we go… So 32 is Bo Nicks, 31, Minchou?

It's disrespectful to Minchou. Yeah. Very disrespectful.

Okay.

Mariota.

No, he's a backup. This is off to a great start. This is an awesome-Let's do top 10. Let's do top 10. Bryce Young.

Okay, I like that. Bryce Young is 31.

Who knows what will show us this year? Yes. All we have to go on is what has been presented to us.

All right, Bo Nicks, 32. Bryce Young, 31. I think then we should just do the rookie quarterbacks. I think we should rip through them. Don't you think that's fair?

Yeah, but it's important who's at the top of the list. Yeah.

So you're putting AOC ahead of all these rookies?

Oh, yeah. No, it minced you. So All right, here we go. 32, Bo Nicks. 31, Bryce Young. 30, Garner Minchou, 29 is when we start all the rookie starters.

Okay, so the worst rookie starter. Who do you think that is?

Jj McCarthy? Should we just go by draft order? I'd be fine with that.

Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm cool with that. I think that's a good way to do it.

I'm fine with that. Okay, we agree. All right, so that's easy. We're already ripping through this.

All right, so Spencer Rattler.

Are you ranking this right now for us live?

I'm ready.

I'm on my computer. Can you do a notes app, Max, so that we can just have it live in front of us? Because we are going to get very confused. Very, very confused.

I already am.

Yeah, already very confused. But I think we've got this. Just to rehash where we're at, 32, Bo Nicks, 31, Bryce Young, 30, Garner Minchew, and then at 29, we're going to start with JJ, then 28, Drake May, 27, Jade McDaniels. Jade and Daniels. Why do I say McDaniels? Why do I say Jade and McDaniels? He's a basketball player. Yeah, he's a basketball player. Then skip 27. Or actually, no, skip 26. Do 27, Jade and Daniels. 26, Caleb Williams. Then skip 25. Because that way, because they're all linked together, it'll be confusing.

I like how we put Bo'Nicks as a rookie in last place. Yeah.

All right.

So 24, Okay, who else we got out there at the bottom? Derek Carr. That's not a bad suggestion. We do have a friend. There's a lot of really good... Deshawn Watson?

He's not our friend. Yeah, let's put Deshawn. Let's put Deshawn at 23. Yeah, I like that.

I love it. Oh, no. Yeah, okay. Now, 22, Russell Wilson?

Yes. We're actually ripping through this. We are. 21, let's go Anthony Richardson?

Yeah, I like him.

But we got to be fair. 20 should be Will Levis. Okay.

Trevor Lawrence, 19. He was bad last year.

I don't know if we go Trevor Lawrence, 19. Gino?

Oh, yeah. Gino. Gino fits in at 19.

Then Tee Law?

Kyler.

Kyler. We forgot about Kyler. Yeah. Kyler. Okay, we're doing a good job here.

Eighteen is Kyler, 17.

By the way, we're definitely going to get to the end and fuck this up. But that's okay. Yes, a million %. That's okay. That's part of the process. We're doing this right now, guys. I like Dak here. Dak. Yeah. With Dak here. That office.

With Dak right behind Kirk Cousins. Yes.

Hank, you get a call on one as well because he just uses Dak call. Okay. So 16, should we go Kirk Cousins?

Yeah, 16 should be Kirk. Yeah. Right exactly in the middle.

And then 15, Trevor Lawrence.

14, Baker Mayfield.

Yep. Love that.

People are trying to get so mad. I like this.Love that.

13, Stafford? Yep. Okay. 12, Tua?

Tua fits there.

Rogers, too. Rogers is hurt.

Yeah, outside the top 10.

Scroll up a little bit. Rogers. I like this list. This is going to make some people mad.

Jordan Love. We want to put him in here anywhere. If I have to be honest, he's definitely top 10, so that's a problem. He's 10. You can tell package fans, I put him in my top Okay, you know what?

Jalen Hertz. Oh, you want Jalen Hertz at 10? That's your call, Hank?

Yeah, I mean, I think he's already slipped.

He's slipped too far down.

I knew that was going to be his call. He had no other call. He had no other call.

It's his call.

All right, put him in. Ten.

He had a Aaron Rodgers. That's pretty good.

That's pretty good. No, Max, put him in. Jalen Hertz, 10. You got your deck pick.

Is Brock still available?

Oh, yeah. Brock's still available? Brock's higher than nine. Eagles fans are going to be so mad about that. Rock is higher than nine. Should we say Jared at some point just to show that we're not completely biased?

All right, we'll save Jared. You're are using your pick, Hank.

All right, we'll save Jared.

I'll just get my opinion.

All right, we'll save Jared. Herbert. Herbert, nine.

Okay.

Injured?

You don't know? Yeah. There's a lot of good quarterbacks in the NFL.

There's a lot of good quarterbacks in the NFL.

Okay. Maybe Jared at seven.

I like Jared at seven. That feels good. Okay, so put what?

Brock at eight?

Brock at eight, Jared at seven, Jordan Love at six. I feel like that's rounded out pretty nicely there.

Jordan Love, I think, should be...

Jared should be ahead of Jordan Love. Yes. So Jordan Love at seven, Jared Goff at six. Six, yeah. Love that. I love that for us.

It's perfect. Perfect ranking. Okay, after that, let's see. Joe is probably... I'm going to put Joe top five.

Yeah.

I'm going to put Josh top five.

I think it goes... All right, I'll give you my top five. You could tell me this is crazy. I think based on injuries and not being around right now, I think it has to go Joe, C. J. Stroud, Lamar, Josh, Mahomes. I'm also okay if you want to switch Lamar and Josh, just so that way people can't say the glazen's crazy.

Let's flip C. J. And Joe. Okay. I think put C. J. At five.

Joe at Do you want to go Josh at three? That way people can't accuse us. Let's do that. That way we cover our basis. Josh, if you're listening to this, you're definitely two.

I would rather have Josh than Lamar.

Okay, yeah, I would, too. All right, so yeah, Josh has to be two. Yeah. Dude.

Josh has come closer to winning in the playoffs than Lamar has.

I think this might be the perfect quarterback list because we did just enough to piss people off where it also still looks real, and you would never know that Daniel Jones isn't on there. I forgot.

I honestly forgot that Daniel Jones wasn't on there at all.

Yeah.

What do you think, out of all these rankings, which one do you think will make the most people angry?

Dak, for sure. Yeah. Dak, for sure. Back behind. Jalen Hertz as well. Jalen Hertz will get Philly mad.

Baker, Head of Trevor.

Yeah.

People get upset about that. Jalen at 10. Yeah. And the thing is, they'll get mad at Justin Herbert at number nine. But if you look at the names in front of them, I agree with our list. Yeah.

I like it. I like it a lot. Okay, we did it. Yeah, good job. That was a good list. We fucking crushed that list, boys. Okay, do you want to do the... We'll put that on a graphic. We'll put it out there. Memes, you got any problem with this list? You think Rodgers should be higher? No, it looks like a good list. Rodgers will prove that he's the number one quarterback this year. Oh, he's better than Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes never beat him in the Okay, so that leads me to the next thing that I was going to spring on you. Let me see if I have the name because I want to shout them out. When we asked for lists, this person had a very good idea with the list. Oh, yeah. I'm going to shout out JMB 4723-1988. Shout out JMB 4723-1988.

That sounds like a burner.

Shout out that guy. He said he would like to hear part of my take to a list of things that would be a real shame.

Oh, that's good. That's really good. All right.

It would be a real shame if memes, the guy he just said is going to be the number one quarterback, got hurt on Monday Night Football for the second straight year.

It would be.

That would be a real shame.

A real shame. I think if If the Celtics get swept, that would be a real shame.

We're going to make a graphic of this. It'd be a real shame. That would be a real shame.

That would be a real shame. If the beer Olympics got canceled.

That would be a real shame.

A real shame. That would be one of the biggest shame. God damn. If I ever had to feel deep down in my soul.

I'd be so mad.

That would be a real shame. You know what would be a real shame? Is if Jake's Twitter account accidentally did the Ray Allen tweet. That would be a real fucking shame.

Somebody logged into it. That would be a real shame.

I'm proud myself for holding my ground on that one.

Yeah, but imagine if someone had gotten your password and tweeted that. That would be a real shame. I'll say one personally. It would be a very big shame if Caleb Williams wasn't good.

Yeah, it would be.

It would be It would be a really big shame.

You know what? It'd be a real shame if first week of training camp with Hard Knocks there, Caleb Williams got injured. I don't like this. And then all of Hard Knocks. You just said it's about any of your comments. No, but I'm saying, and then we had to watch Hard Alex for four weeks, and it was all about Caleb Williams getting hurt. That'd be such a shame. That would be a shame. It'd be a real shame.

Shut up about... That's not what we wrote, Max. Max wrote down Caleb Williams was Ben Simmons. That's not what we wrote. That would be a shame. That was not what we wrote. But that would be- No, that was not what we wrote. I thought that was just good wording for what we were saying. Yeah. Would be a real shame if Jalen Hertz wasn't the guy. Yeah. Wouldn't it?

It would be. Wouldn't it? Definitely. Max?

That would be a shame. Yeah, no, I'm writing it down.

Be a shame if the Philly started to play actual teams. Oh, it would be a shame.

Well, it's a real shame that they beat the first-place brewers last night. Oh, of the NL Central? You got to make a line somewhere. The NL Central sucks, dude. Who's good? The Dodgers. Haven't played them yet. Yankees. They're not even the same league. Okay, but you just asked who's good, and I just gave you two teams. Yeah, but you only play the other league once a year.

Padres, sneaky, not bad.

Beat the Padres. How many times? I think we swept them. Mariners are pretty good. Other league. Orioles are really good. Orioles are really good. That would be a sweep of the Padres. Okay, Oreals are really good. You want to say anything about the Orioles? The other league. I don't know what you want me to say. Guardians and the Royals are good. You're really good. You're really good at saying the other league. Just finding out the NL sucks.

Other things, it would be a real shame.

Yeah, I mean, the NL Central is really bad. The Cubs are still in second place in there. They've lost a billion games in a row.

Hank, you got any real shames?

It would be a shame if Hank couldn't dunk.

Yeah, it'd be a real shame if I paid all this money to get trained and then didn't dunk and had to pay even more money.

It would be. It would be a real shame if something happened to Mr.

Oh, it would be a shame. I don't feel comfortable writing that down. Write it down.

This is a real shame. Something happened. I didn't say what. I said something.

This is a real shame. Also, are we going to rank these or are we just- No, it's just things that would be a real shame. It would be a real shame.

It would be. It would be a real shame if the part of my take account tweeted out the sad max picture four more times this week. Oh, no.

That's the most likely to happen. Yeah, that is true. That is most likely to for sure. It'd be a real shame if Joel Embiid asked for a trade.

It would be.

Wouldn't it?

Real shame.

That would be a real goddamn shame.

It would be a real shame if Joel Embiid was starting at center for the USA, and we lost in the championship game to Jokuj.

Oh, man. I'm also not going to that game. Didn't realize that town is four hours away from Paris. That's crazy. How is it the Paris Olympics and the game is four hours away?

When it's the Atlanta Olympics, they've got games all over the country.

That's bullshit. That shouldn't be the case. Okay. Veto. Veto. All right. Let them know. Let them know. Any other shames?

Real shame if- It'd be a shame if PFT was better at golf than Hank. It'd be a shame. That would be a shame. It'd be a shame if Hank's next vacation to an island, he went to Turks and Caicos and forgot that he had ammunition in his suitcase.

That would be a shame. It would be a shame if when the John Daly video came out if everyone just watched the first two holes. That'd be a real shame. That'd be a real shame.

It'd be a real shame if you hypothetically went to Tom Brady's retirement ceremony and didn't meet him, and you thought you might.

Oh, no. Is that- No, it's not.

I'm just saying it would be a real shame.

But is that a concern?

I don't know.

I think so.

No, this is- I feel good about it. I don't know.

That would absolutely be a real shame.

I know. Is it like a wedding where if somebody comes to your retirement, you Do you have to shake everyone's hand? Do you have to say hi to everyone?

No, there's a chance. There's a non-zero chance.

Do you have a present for him?

Myself? My present is a present.

You should bring a present to a man's retirement ceremony.

Yeah, you definitely- Give him a formal invitation to part of my take. Oh, yes. Yeah, print it out. Let's print it out. We'll get a nice envelope. Yes, celebrities love it when you hand them envelopes. No, I'm thinking the Grammys envelope where it's just like, put a seal on it. Make sure you tell him no anthrax in this.

Here you go.

If you say it'd be a shame, maybe right on the front, it'd be a shame if there was anthrax in this because that would be a shame.

Just say, Hand it to him, hang it to him. Here you go. It's safe.

Is that a thing with envelopes? What do you mean?

You don't know about the Anthrax scared. Never caught the guy that did it.

Yeah, you're not old enough?

I guess. Right after 9:11, somebody sent a bunch of anthrax to Capitol Hill, post office. Yeah. Yeah.

Real scary.

Yeah. Real scary. Real shame if someone It would be a real shame if mail just stopped existing.

It's the dumbest thing in the world.

Wait, so that wouldn't be a shame?

It'd be a real shame if mail continued to-Do you know what we're doing here?

Yeah. Like, it'll be It would be a real shame if you crashed a boat this summer. Yes. That would be a real shame.

It would be. It's a good addition to the list.

It would be a real It's a fucking shame.

Jake, you have any real shames for us?

It'd be a real shame if Max got the lottery ball.

Oh.

No. Shit. It would be a shame. You're right. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a really good one.

It would be a real shame if he got it.

It would be never got it. If he never got it, that's what you had said. That's not what he said. I wrote that when he said. Jake, see how it's phrased differently? It'd be a real shame if Max just literally never got the lottery ball. Real shame. Real shame. J. K. One shot. That's okay.

It'd be a real shame if Vanny Wood had showed up at our doorstep and there was a bomb inside.

Oh, That would be a big shame. It'd be a big shame.

It'd be a big shame. Also a pretty funny move. Yeah.

That would be a hat-send.

That would be also a good chance it never gets here.

Yeah, also a very good chance. Yes. Because Billy somehow has it in his head that once it gets here, we're going to fire him. Yeah. Does he think that... Has he thought for the last five years that Vanny Woodhead's existence kept his job?

Maybe. I think so. He's been holding a sauc.

I think so. I think that's exactly what he's been thinking. Okay, any else? Memes, you got one. You got a good one.

Come on, memes. Can't hear your memes.

Can't hear your memes. He just said, I'm trying to think. Oh, no.

It'd be a real shame if we podcast it extra long, if I had to miss softball. That would be a shame.

Wait, what? Why? Why are you saying Are you trying to miss softball?

No. We're talking about things that would be a real shame.

That would be a real shame. That would be a real, real shame. That'd be a real shame.

It'd be a real shame if something happened to Charlotte and Stingray. Oh, man. By the way, you see the update?

What?

She was never pregnant. I was right. You told us that-No, but there's a new update.

Oh.

The aquarium-I said deja vu?

Yeah, I feel like you said that on Sunday.

The aquarium admitted to it. Oh, got it. They admitted. Oh, did I say that you had a reproductive disease?

Pretty sure you did, yeah. Okay, all right.

Unless there's a chance that was off camera, but I don't think it was.

It'd be a real shame if we kept on getting Charlotte's singray updates. Memes got a banger, by the way.

We won't. This is final.

Oh, no. Memes finish us off. I was going to say it'd be a shame if my dick got bigger. That doesn't really work, but yeah. Yeah, I said to Max, I don't think I did it. No, it doesn't really work. I wanted you to say it. No, it No, I'm keeping it. That doesn't work. It would work more if it'd be a real shame if Max and Memes posted the video of us golfing when I flashed my tiny penis. That would actually be a shame. That would be a shame. That would be a shame. Every time we go golfing, Max and Memes get me peeing. Then every time they get me peeing, I just turn around and say, We can't use this anymore. This is also just Big Cat admitting to workplace harassment. No, it's You guys are harassing me first.

He was peeing. He was clearly peeing.

I'm fighting harassment with harassment. You were videotaping me peeing. That's harassment. This also all started by the first golf video we did I went to go piss, and you said, Look, get that fat man peeing over there. I don't recall. That doesn't sound like something I do not recall.

I do not recall. I've hung out with Big Cat for the last seven years. That doesn't It doesn't sound like words that would-No chance I said that.

Yeah, no. Max and Memes have my penis on camera many times in their hard drives that they could just-You put that on Twitter now. They could just put... I actually, I'm doing you guys a favor. I'm giving you guys blackmail. You Guys could just walk up to me one day and just be like, Hey, remember all those times you flashed us?

I got them all.

And now the internet's just going to be like, release. By the way, the flash comes from 30, 40 feet away. It's not right in the face.

I saw the size of it. No No one would accuse you of blackmail. It'd be white mail.

It's hardly a flash. It's hardly a flash. All right, that was good.

Yeah, good list. Two good lists.

Shout out. Hold on. Let me get his-We're so productive. Look at us. Let me get that guy again. Shout out JMB472-3988. You know what? I might give him a follow. Definitely a burner. His last tweet was from March 6, 2024. Just #clemer.

I like that.

What's your favorite one out of all of these?

That was probably during the stream that he did. Yeah.

My favorite one out of all of these? Can I give you a real answer or a fake answer? Beer Olympics getting canceled.

That would be such a shame.

That'd be my fake answer. My real answer out of all of these, if Hank crashed a boat. That would be a shame. It would be a shame, dude. That would be a fucking shame. That would be so… I don't like how we're just bringing this into existence now. No, but being safe. If he wasn't injured. He wasn't injured. It wasn't Dude, I don't want him… Yeah, Jake, I'm not thinking like, he crashes and dies. I'm just thinking he has to pay for a whole book.

I don't know if you got the camera on Hank's face after the crash. He did the Cam Newton, Okay, let's go.

Yeah, he was like, Okay. Yeah, I see how it is.

Quite literally, I just saw that in real life, and it was, Hank, I believe in you. You're not going to crash. There's no way that you crash both this summer. Zero % chance.

No, the number one is a clear one. One is it would be such a shame if the beer Olympics got canceled. That would break my heart. That would break my heart. I don't know how I would actually... I don't know how I'd recover. I don't know how I'd move on if it somehow got canceled. The only way it would get canceled is if enough people backed out. I think we're pretty close to that, so no one else back out.

Or else it might get canceled. We don't want that because it would be a shame.

Don't do it.

Yeah. One more. It'd be a shame if Miley Cyrus came on the podcast.

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Oh, that's a great Coors light sound. Send us your mountains when they're blue this weekend on your Corsalight cans or bottles, go right now to corsalight. Com/take or Instacart and get yourself a Coorselight. Hank, I want to apologize for the boat stuff. No, it's fine. It's on our mind because when you listen to Rosillo, we got into some boat talk. I do not want that.

No, it's fine. Yes, you do.

No, I do not.

You made your truth known, and that's fine.

I'm saying right now I do not want that.

But you can't have it both ways.

No, I'm not. I said it was a shame. Now I'm saying to you, those are the same thing.

Would it be a shame or would it not be a shame?

It would 100% be a shame.

Right. Yeah, that's your real answer.

I feel like we're saying this. No.

It's a shame.

A shame is a bad thing.

I don't want it. The question was, which one do you want to happen?

I don't want you to get in any boating incidents.

Got it. Wink.

Got it. No, I'm not winking. He's winking. Look at me. I'm not winking. He's winking. The wink was for beer Olympics. The wink was for beer Olympics, dude. There was no wink for the phone.

You I just winked.

I did not just wink. I think-You want to say it again?

I think we all agree if Hank gets into a small boating accident, that'd be very funny.

No.

I think it'd be a shame if I were to laugh after- It'd be a shame if you guys asked me to come out, and I remember this conversation That would be a shame.

That would be a good one. Add it to the list. We ask Hank to take us out on his boat, and he remembers the shame list. That would be a shame. For the record, I had nothing to do the boat. Oh, look at him. We're distancing ourselves.

Okay, Hank, your hot seat. My hot seat is Conor McGregor.

Yeah.

There was supposed to be a scheduled press conference for UFC 303 that got postponed on Monday. Then this is from a random MMA account, so some of these things might not be 100% true, but it says, UFC is no longer being advertised on pay-per-view. Ufc has privated the Conor McGregor free fight videos posted a few days ago. Mcgregor and White have been silent, and Michael Chandler is posting self-help quotes on Instagram. It's not looking great for UFC 303, unless this is all a work.

What is the speculation that McGregor has been-Injured.injured..

Aka hungover? He's been hungover. I don't know. I mean, it's tough to see that video of him just on a bunch of Mollet at the club two weeks ago.

Allegedly.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He could just been chilling. But It's not looking good.

No, it's not looking good. I really wanted to see this fight. I'm very upset.

Also, Steven A. Smith, that clip also went viral of him and Shannon Sharp talking on first take. Steven A. Smith was like, Conor McGregor should not be going against a grappler. And the UFC fans were very upset that Steven A. Smith was breaking down.

He was trying to talk punch.

You can't do that, Steven A.

You can't do that. You don't know Fist.

You don't know Then my cool thrown is the Peaky Fucking Blinders.

All right? Do the whole thing in your accent.

The Peaky Fucking Blinders? Let me read the press release. Tommy Shelby returns. A Peaky Blinders film starring Cillian Murphy is coming to Netflix. This is bad. I got the Peaky Fucking Blinders part. It seems like Tommy Shelby wasn't finished with me. It is very gratifying to be recollaborating with Steven Knight and Tom Hopper on the film version of Peaky Fucking Blinders. This one is for the fans.

Love that. I'm excited for this.

That was Cillian Murphy that said that?

That was the official Netflix account, tweeted that. I don't know who the quote is by. I'm assuming the director.

Peaky Blinders was No. It was such a good show. With no spoilers, even though it's been out for a long time, I love the way they ended it. I mean, there can't really be spoilers because there's a movie, but I just loved it. I love that show. It's I'm excited for this movie.

It's a great show. It's also going to make me want to smoke all the cigarettes.

Yes.

It's going to be real shame if I start smoking again. Real shame. Real shame. Real shame.

That's when is it coming out?

I don't know.

Oh, you just gave us a bad accent and didn't give us any details?

It was a great show.

Everyone had-A Peaky Blind is filmed, selling Cillian Murphy is coming to Netflix.

Oh, okay. Netflix, great.

Important question. I'm assuming that the answer is yes, since it's on Netflix. But are we going to get subtitles? I have to. Because you have to watch Peaky Blinders with subtitles. Yeah. It counts as reading a book, every episode you see.

Yeah, bro.

I watch everything with subtitles. Everything. Sports? Not sports. So I guess not everything. Comedy? Anything streaming. Comedy is usually a stand-up? No. A sitcom? Yes.

Pornography? Yes. Subtitles? Yes. Oh, fuck, you're going to make me come? Yeah.

Put it in there. Yeah, no, stand up, you can't because it goes too fast. So they'll say the punchline before. Sitcom, I don't really care because it's not the same punch of a punchline.

I can't do it with sitcoms. Can't do it.

Yeah, I need it. I lose too much. I realized that when I'm not using subtitles, I just zone out way too often. So you did tires with the subtitles? That one was actually timed up perfectly. It wasn't like the punch lines were coming too fast. Okay. Yeah. Tires was great, by the way. Go watch it.

Yeah.

Yeah, all the guys.

All right, my hot seat is actually vaping. Oh. Vaping's on the hot seat. Did you see the picture of the golfer over the weekend? The female golfer? Yes. Charlie Hull? Yes. So she went viral. She was ripping a dart as she was signing autographs for kids, by the way, which is awesome. She was smoking a cigarette, signing autographs. Somebody took her picture and then reported that she is smoking cigarettes to help her quit vaping, which, respect, we've all been there. Okay. Or some All of us have been there.Yeah. But then it went viral, and now she's like, Yeah, I don't really see it. It's not that much of a big deal. My father smokes 40 cigarettes a day, and he has for 25 years, and he's 75. My brother, who's 25, also smokes 20 cigarettes a day.

She's European, though. I feel like it's different rules. Also-better tobacco?

I do think there's something to be said about jeans. They could just have jeans that are just cigarettes don't bother them.

Yeah, so she actually sounds very healthy. She's in shape. She goes to the gym. She doesn't drink, but she does smoke. I feel like that's just one of one. Nobody does that. She does. But she's trying to smoke so that she stops vaping.

No, people that quit drinking, that's all they do.

Well, yeah, true. That's fair. But they did drink at one point. I don't think anybody She's like, You know what? I'm just going to smoke cigarettes and not drink at all as my lifestyle. She used to vape. She wanted to stop vaping. Even though smoking is not better than vaping, she says, it's so you can vape indoors all the time, so you do it more often. That's why she smoking cigarettes.

That's a very fair point.

It's true. When you vape, you wake up in the morning, what's the first thing you do?

You hit the vape.

What's the last thing you do before you go to bed? After you think you're already in bed? Oh, you lean over, you grab the vape. One last thing before I go to sleep. She's right about that.

Yeah, the act of having to go outside.

And she said, I I thought, if I smoke, I'm going to go outside and smoke a cigarette. When it's a slow round on the golf course, I smoke quite a few more than I should. Smoking on the golf course, I think is fine. I think it rocks, in fact. But then she said, But listen, I will stop soon. It's just when? She's not going She's going to stop.

No, she's going to stop. She said she's going to stop.

She said, Yeah, she'll stop eventually. She'll stop. She'll stop eventually. But I respect her. Charlie Hall is my new favorite golfer. My cool throne is Threesomes. Threesomes are back.

Have you heard about this? I have. What happened?

It just reported the city of New York has invented threesomes.

Okay.

They call them ménage athroise. It's a New York term.

They invented that term. Yeah, that does sound New York-ish.

It's very New York. So apparently people are having threesomes in New York. It's a trend piece in the New York Post. And they're like, Guess what's hot this summer? They're calling it the summer of threesomes.

This New York Post and this writer are the biggest loser of all time?

It's because of the Zendaya movie. It's because of Challenges. The Tennis. Tennis 3.

Was that a guy, girl, guy?

Guy, guy, girl.

Yeah, guy, girl, guy. Yeah, same thing. Were you asking about their body positions?

Like, if you're capturing it? I said, guy, girl, guy, and you said, guy, guy, girl.

Yeah. It's guy, guy, girl. Is that what you were thinking, Hank?

Eiffel Tower.

Eiffel Tower is probably more likely.

Yeah, but the guy's in the middle.

It was guy, guy, girl? No.

Got it. But they're back. Yeah, New York Post is all over this. I think they found three of their friends that had threesoms recently. They're like, Hey, would you like to be in a New York Post article? Yeah.

Have you ever just lived on planet Earth where you're like, I'd love to have a threesome?

I think in the article, it was like, Katie from Williamsburg said she just had her first one a couple of weeks ago.

That's not a real threesome person, though. They just got into it because of the movie. Do you think real orgy people are looking on their nose at the new threesome people, and they're like, You're just a challenger's fan. You're not the actual lifestyle. I'm about this shit.

I'll say it. I wouldn't want to have a threesome. It's a lot of work. I just double the disappointment. No, thank you.

It's a lot of work.

It's just, Oh, okay. I would just be sitting on the sideline just being like, All right, I'm out very quickly. And then it's just lesbian sex? Okay, that's fine. But it doesn't go How you think it goes in your head wouldn't go how it went in real life. What are you looking for, Hank?

Someone stole my donuts.

Oh, someone stole your donuts? I said that. I was bringing them to the front desk.

I need them.

For what?

What's going on? I had to shoot a video for Ken's donuts. I brought them in here so that people wouldn't take them.

I said that in front of this group. We were just podcasting while they're just looking for donuts.

I need my donuts. You don't understand.

If I had said that, I would be killed for it. It's for you. I understand, but I'd be killed if the words ever came out of my mouth, I need my donuts.

You do, though.

Okay, well, that's a different thing.

Hank, do you- Not on Cainds. Anything else you'd like to add to Threesome Talk?

No, I'm down. Great publicity for Canes. They literally were the girl and the guy-girl threesome.

They're getting glazed.

They're right in the middle.

Glazed donuts.

I just saw the donuts. I was like, Those are going to sit in here forever.

No, I literally brought them in here for a purpose.

Can you please get them?

Thank you. You know what, though? I think a threesome would be better than a foursome. If it's a foursome, if it's a foursome where it's two guys, two girls, then- That's just group stuff.

I don't know. A tag team match?

No, because then you're always like, That other guy is so much better than I am. That would suck. That would be bad. That would fuck.

What if it was tag team Tag team, just close your eyes and- Well, no. I'm done. Tag.

Oh, yeah. It's like a pitching rotation. You get a set up man, then a closer. Yeah, you do the finishing move.

I've already done my finishing move. We just rung the bell.

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. But if it's a threesome, listen, you're disappointed two women. I've disappointed multiple women in my life, not to brag.

There's no way it would play out in my head. How it plays out in everyone's head in fantasy, there's just reality would just be awkward me just sitting on the side. I I'd probably be getting dressed while they're still threesoming, or I guess it would be twosoming.

It's also just impossible to think about two girls being interested in that with you. I think if I were- I can't even. On what planet would two girls be like, You know what we should all do together?

Yeah, you have to suspend belief when it's just one woman. It's like, I want to see you naked, and I want your naked body pressing against mine, and to tell me that there's two girls at the same time on planet Earth that want to do that to me. Something's fishy here.

Now I'm saying it, I don't even think that you would be able to qualify me in a threesome. It would be a twosome featuring me. I'd have a feature like Lyric or Barr. It's like, Oh, was he on that song? Oh, okay, cool.

You do the remix of it? Yeah. They're doing their thing, and then occasionally you get on top and smooch.

Yeah, right. Exactly. You're doing great. Yeah.

Had them on the head.

All right. My hot seat is... I got two of them. First is San Diego Padres' infielder, Jake. Help me, Jake. Tukupita Marcano, who has been banned from baseball for gambling. Marcano won only 4.3% of the 231 MLB-related bets he placed. I guess it's also a cool thrown for me because I'm not the worst gambler.

Was he taking wild prop?

Had it been Parleys. Had it been crazy Parleys. Crazy.

Crazy. Yeah, that's not. If you're that bad at your bets, though, I feel like they should look the other way.

Yeah. Ipe came out and he's guilty or he admitted guilt, so they're not even going to go to trial.

Mlb said case closed.

Case closed. Now, you could say, Oh, he's the fall guy, but I think he's up to 33 years in jail. That's a lot of jail.

If he is a Fall guy, I think he is the best Fall guy of all time. Ever. He committed like, Sapuku.

Fall guy Hall of Fame.

Yeah, the goat.

But yeah, 4.3% of 231 MLB-related bets is insane.

Hank, you're upset about the donuts.

He's upset about the donuts. Someone ate the donut I was going to use. That's fine.

He's upset about the donuts. Way to go, Max.

Not Diva Hank.

Way to go, Max. Then my other hot seat.

I wouldn't take his stuff out of the booth.

Yeah, that's true. My other hot seat is this random guy's best friend who... I don't know if you guys saw this. It made me laugh last night when I was scrolling Twitter. This guy, Mr. F Boyer, wrote, When I was 30, my best My friend and I partied super hard and had the crazy nights you only fantasize about. Now we're 46. I'm married with kids. He's still partying. We hung out tonight, and I assure you, he's a loser. Okay? What a fucking dickhead thing to put out there. Yeah, that is.

Bad friend.

Yeah. My best friend's a loser.

That's tough. Yeah. Who said that?

It was just some guy named F Boyer. I don't know. It just made me laugh because it was just like... Then he replied a million times to people being like, You sound like a bad friend. He's I'm talking about him not evolving as a person. I was like, No, dude, you just called him a loser.

Yeah, that's a bad friend. I thought for a second that was a euphemism you were using for somebody that we knew.

No, no. It's literally... F Boyer. F Boyer. This guy sucks. Don't be friends with that guy. No, bad dude. Bad dude. Also, you already were a loser because you said the phrase, I partied super hard and had the crazy nights you only fantasize about. Cool, dude.

That means that while he was partying with you, he hated you.

Yeah, which we can tell now. Then my cool thrown, reverse of this because this guy sucks, my cool throne is dudes because-They rock.we are in the works of, and it's going to be a Barstool sports joint. Pmt will be big behind it. Jersey Jerry started it. Dude Fest. This happened last night. Our friend Jerry tweeted out, They should start in OnlyFans, but for guys, not sexual or gay. Just like if you want to meet new guy friends to hang out, smoke cigars, watch sports, golf, etc. This tweet probably sounds really gay, and I'm not sure why I'm even tweeting it, but I have a hard time making friends.

It's a brave tweet by Jerry. Yeah. Would part of that translate to OnlyFans, though? Because it seems like he's talking about a Tinder, but just for dudes that want to hang out. If there was an OnlyFans for guys, it would be like you pay videos and you get exclusive content of a guy smoking a cigar. Yeah. Kicking his feet up on his couch.

I don't know. Someone did point out that you could literally call that OnlyFans, what Jerry came up with. That's true. It's just Only Sports fan. Yeah. But Vinnie Jay said, How about Hear me out, Barstool Chicago's DudeFest 2024, and we're doing it. We're going to have DudeFest. Where? We are working on locations as we speak.

What type of location?

Joe's on Weed has been thrown out there.

Great place. So bar?

Yeah. Well, a big enough bar that we can have a stage. So the idea, because I was thinking about it this morning, I want a stage, and we'll plan it out better than just anyone can walk up, but I want a stage where dudes can go up and they could show us their favorite puke video, their favorite wrestling video. Dudes could go up and show us a picture of the best brisket they've done. Dudes could show up and do a couple of reps on the bench press. Dudes could walk up there and talk to us. One guy said he wanted to do a five minutes seminar on the wingtee offense. Just dudes talking about dudes stuff and everyone being supportive and cheering for it. We're also going to have the first ever random athlete spelling bee, where I You'll have 10 to 15 people, and you have 2 seconds when you step into the mic and you have to name a random sports player. The ruling of it is going to be that person could never have won anything. Okay.

Because you can't- He's naming guys.

You got to name guys, but it can't be Kobe Bryant. You know what I mean? It has to be a name that you haven't thought of forever who didn't win any, was never an All-Star, never won a MVP, never won a World Series or a Super Bowl. It's going to be Dude Fest, and it's going to fucking rock. What do you guys think?

I also- I think it should be outside.

Okay. Well, so we were thinking about it. We're thinking about maybe doing one in August, but I also think that the week or two after Super Bowl would be a perfect time for Dude Fest.

Not a lot going on.

Everyone's coming down, and it's just dudes supporting dudes. I also have thought of this idea. There will be, obviously, tickets. You buy a ticket. When you walk in the door, you get handed a $10 bet, and all the dudes are on the same bet.

That's a good idea. Yeah.

It will be baked in the price. We're all on a random over, right?

Hardcore duty.

I want to maybe get a super strong guy to come and just deadlift like a thousand pounds.

Are there winners, losers, competition?

No. Anyone who shows up to Dude Fest is a winner. You're a winner. Because you love dudes. But again, not sexual.

It's just dudes. Yeah. Okay. It's just completely open. You can say whatever you want as a man.

Yeah, we could just be dudes together.

Just being dudes. Yeah. There should be a fart contest.

Oh, yes. Farting contest. Great idea. That's on the list. Fart contest.

What about burping contest?

Burping contest. We're going to do- That's the pre-limb for the fart contest. Yeah, wing eating contest. What if a female tries to show up to Dude Fest? Nope. Denied at the door? Denied at the door. Okay. I just wanted to make sure of that. What, Hank? Nothing. What, Hank? No, not. What, are you saying we can't do it?

No, no, no, no.

You want to talk about trans? No. You sounded like Hank wanted to talk about trans. You wanted to talk about trans. I don't. I definitely don't. You did. You wanted to have this conversation.

Definitely not.

You want to have a heavy conversation?

I think this should be a It sounds like a festival. The things you just listed off is like- What gave it away?

Dude Fest?

But if you do it at Joe's, what are you going to have? A three-day festival at Joe's on Weed?

No, Hank, you can't just expect people to do a three-day festival right off the jump, we have to do a proof of concept. The Dude Fest 1.0 is not going to think about like Elio's Ice Con. It's like that.

It'd be like an open mic for guys, open geik.

Yeah, right.

Then when we- That doesn't work, but you understand what I'm saying.

When we build it bigger, then maybe we'll build in music. But I don't even want to have a headliner band or something because I want dudes to just be able to be dudes. Because what if you come to Dude Fest, and it's a band you don't like? No one dislikes a dude showing us a picture of the best steak he's cooked. That dude rocks.

There should be some... Maybe everybody in there is in the musical group. Maybe there's one minute and a half time slot where everyone just sings Mr.

Bright Side to the World. No, we're going to do the... We'll do that. Yeah. The whole fucking bar will do that.

That's pifty. Cuts it last minute.

Oh, Hank.

Oh, boy.

Hank's upset. Hank's a little... He's got a little angel recent. He's got a little angel recent. He saw Max, Caitlin Clarke, get up on stage, crush it.

Add this to the list, Max. Yeah.

It would be a real shame if PFT kept asking me to do songs and cutting them moments before the show starts.

It would be a real shame if Hank didn't get invited to Dude Fest because he's showing some undudes-like behavior right now.

We're just talking out.

This is how the process works. Some Chick tendency.

Yeah, you're giving off Chick right now. This is the process.

Yeah, you got too many feels for dudes.

No, I feel like my entire existence is just trying to rein in some of Big Cat's bigger scale ideas when he's like, All right, we're going to have one night.

That's also not dude-like.

A hundred things.

Very not dude-like.

All right. Sorry.

Well, it's a hundred things, but it's going to also- Every single person is going to go on stage. No, not every single person. I think everyone has to apply for what they want to do, and then we would put together a setlist. I thought When I heard all that, it's like a festival where there's different stages with different things going on.

You can walk around.

That will be where we will get to.

Got it.

Yes, year five of Dude Fest, there will be an entire tent where it will just be Stone Cold Steve Austin highlights on loop. You can just go in there and watch it with your dudes.

It'll be like what South by Southwest turned into, where it's a week long event and you've got lanyards and you can go to the dude seminars that they're giving.

Yeah, right. There'll be a tent where it's just dingers.

Steve Adazio.

Steve Adazio, we'd love for you to kick off Dude Fest.

Keynote speaker, yeah.

Be a dude. The Harbaughs will be involved in some capacity, whether that be just a video he sends me or both of them send me. By the way, did you see the Harbaughs have football camp now, coaching camp?

I didn't see that. No, I saw his golf tournament.

We need to get involved with the Harbaugh football camp because we actually... This may sound crazy because it's going to be football coaches and they're going to teach them football, but I think we could lend our hand in media training.

Yeah, 100% we could.

We just had all the coaches go through the toughest questions we could ask them.

Yeah, and just teach them how to say, It starts with me. I got I take a long look in the mirror because it starts and it ends with me. Yeah.

All right, so Hank's out on DudeFest. I love the idea.

Are you in on DudeFest? Yeah. It took me a while to really understand what the boundaries were for people that are presenting at DudeFest. It's just anything that's cool.

Yeah, exactly. We're going to have... If anyone will have a portion, maybe a 10-minute portion where dudes will just come up and show the biggest fish they caught.

Yeah, it's good.

That's going to be awesome.

Even bring the fish. Yeah.

Some cool shed you Yeah, we'll have a whole picture time. It's going to rock.

Talk about your car.

I know Max is in. Max fucking loves dudefins.

Get up there and just tell me all the stuff you've done to your car. Don't even show pictures.

We should have someone just go up and teach us about cars. Yeah. Five minutes.

Here's where the gas goes in.

Yeah. The spelling bee of random athlete is going to be electric.

So there's no spelling involved in that? No. Okay, so I just get up there. I say Steve Bedrosian. Yeah.

Then I have two seconds and I have to come up with someone. Then I say, Oh, Fred McGriff. He's too accomplished. He's like, No, you're out.

How will we verify?

We'll have the scripts people there. They'll be there. They'll be there. They'll do their fucking nerdy voice. We'll have to have them behind the curtain because that guy's not a dude. Dr. Bailey? Yeah, Dr. Bailey. No doctors allowed. No doctors allowed a dude fest.

That's way-Cyropractors.

We should maybe have a portion of dudes with ailments that come up and they just ask the whole audience what they think is wrong.

Or has anybody here ever had this? Yeah, right.

I've got a fucking-I got a rash on my shoulder. Can any dude help me? I'll just show my toe.

What's going on? Yeah, that's the entire segment. Does this look infective?

Yes, that's DudeFest. We're helping each other out.

Do you think I should see someone about this? Yeah.

Anyone know what's going on in my tooth? The dudes are just shouting out. So DudeFest is going to happen. I've already put the wheels in motion. There's been some big steps taken, which Hank probably hates right now. But I'm in. Get excited. Cool thrown, dudes. All right, Jake.

My hot seat is the French open. Big Cat, I'm going to side it with you on this one because Novak had to retire or withdraw due to injury, and he blamed the court surface because of the rain.

He asked them to wipe it multiple times, and they did not approve of this request. That's fucking bullshit.

He slipped way too many times. He said, Could this injury have been prevented?

Possibly if there was just a little bit more frequent care of the court during the set. That's basically all I asked for. That sounds like Rafa's guys doing this.

Rafa is out.

Yeah, no, I'm saying they want to keep Rafa's whole legacy and everything.

Yeah, so Joker had to withdraw. What happened to him? What's the actual problem with this? Meniscus. Oh, he tore his meniscus? You're never the same athlete after that.

Don't say that, BFT.

Never.

Yeah.

Meniscus is really bad.

He tore it? Due to a medial-medial-Media?

Medial-mediaival. Medial meniscus tear in my right knee.

Yeah, that's bad.

We'll see if he's back for Wimbledon.

No, he won't be. He'll never be. After you have a meniscus, you're never the same athlete you were.

I love how hard memes last. Yeah.

He's taking on the entire court system.

Littéral court system.

Love that. Yeah.

My cool drone is JJ Reddick. Oh, We have a report from Shams that the Lakers are zeroing in as Redik as the front runner for the head coaching position.

We knew this. But this is now out there.

Yeah, we called it. Out there, out there. We called it. We called it. And then is he saying also LeBron to Cleveland?

No. Connect the dots.

Connect the dots. I'm excited to see how that pans out. Yeah. I want to see them continue doing their podcast as coach and player. Yeah. Getting drunk together, tricking that vino.

I feel bad for JJ when either LeBron leaves or LeBron blames JJ because that's the only two outcomes.

I think you have to practice that in your interview for the Lakers. How would you react if LeBron said, We have to get better on coaching? Yeah. What's your reaction to that? Do you say LeBron's right? Do you say he's right? I stink. Are you hard on yourself? I think the only way to get in front of LeBron doing that is you have to be more hard on yourself than LeBron could ever be. Yes. Right off the bat.

I do think JJ would be a good coach. So good Back to him, front of the program. Okay, speaking of NBA, let's get to our great interview with Ryan Rasillo, and then we'll finish up with Guys on Chicks. Before we get to Rasillo, a quick word from our friends at Farmer's Dog. The days are warmer, the walks are longer, and one easy way to help your dog shine this season is with fresh, healthy food from the Farmer's Dog. The Farmer's Dog makes real, fresh dog food and delivers it right to your door. Recipes are developed by vet nutritionists made from real meat and veggies and portion just for your dog, making it easy to say goodbye to burnt brown balls and feed your dog real food with real benefits. It's smart, healthy pet food. You can feel good about feeding your pup. It's the best option for dogs of all life stages because it's not kibble, it's not canned goo, it's real healthy food. The Farmer's Dog isn't just fresh, high-quality food. They also send the food pre-proportioned, specifically for your dog based on their unique needs. This makes it easy to help your dog maintain their ideal weight, which is one of the biggest predictors of a full healthy life.

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Yeah, Ryan, you look good.

I felt good.

Were you doing that as a joke?

No. Okay. Somebody asked me to model, and I said, yes. As I get older, I just want to get outside of the comfort zone. It's just classic. Guys are just not secure enough. So of course, the hate rolls in. It hurt. There was a couple of dark days where I was sitting around being like, Maybe this isn't for me. Maybe I haven't built up the scar tissue that I thought I had built up over 20 20 plus years of sharing sports takes and being called a dickhead all the time. But this world is entirely different. I know that I'm built different, but I don't know if I'm built differently. You had a good look on your face in that pose.

I don't know what your motivation was for the camera. What did you like about it? I thought it was something I hadn't seen out of you before. You had a little high school bully, but also maybe a high school bully who's into poetry.

Yeah. Wrong side of tracks, kid.

Yeah.

Don't fuck with him. Bad boy.

We gave off bad boy vibes.

Yeah, but oh, man, if He's actually really well-read.

Yeah.

Did you like the cement background?

Yeah, that was cool. It was really cool. It was perfectly set up so that you could get meamed forever for it.

Yeah, it made me feel like you were a high school bully, dumb jock, but also you have a Boondocks Saints poster on your wall. So you're into the fine art of cinema as well.

Yeah, maybe Bob Marley.

Have you ever seen overnight the Boondocks Saints documentary about the creator behind it? Have you I've heard about it, and I've heard how crazy batshit insane it gets, but I have not seen it myself. It is so good. I bought it, and I hadn't watched it. I don't know. I think it came out maybe a little less than 20 years ago. It's incredible, and it's the blueprint for what you're not supposed to do when you show up to Hollywood and somebody likes your script. Look, they still got it made, and he did far more in 12 months than most people could ever dream of doing. But it's the best documentary. I wonder what he's like when he goes back. But yeah, to the modeling shoot, there's actually footage from it that we haven't released yet. We're seeing how it goes. The hoodies did sell out in just over an hour. So we're thrilled about that. Legends was obviously happy. I mean, Legends, I'm not traditionally. I'm not a lot of their models. I think we would all agree on that.

Have you knocked on any other calls?

Well, I haven't put it in my Instagram bio yet, and that's probably part of the problem because I have Minor League baseball player in there because I just think a lot of guys do. I don't know what the standard is for saying, Oh, I think I have professional baseball player because I think you can actually just say it. I have that, and then I've got to update it and put model. I imagine the collab offers will just come rolling in.

The key for minor league baseball player, you can't write minor league baseball player. You got to just do the @ to the team that you played for because then people will click it and be like, Oh, shit. He played ball. Because it'll be like some random, it'll be like the Crod hatties. You're like, What the hell is that?

But if you still got paid. You could be independent league baseball, and it's still... I mean, there's nothing funnier than playing a pickup hoop and somebody would be really good and be like, Oh, hey, did you play somewhere? I'll be like, I played some semi-pro. And you're like, What is that? What actually is that? We used to have the CBA, there's the G League, and then there's another league in the NBA, and maybe you were overseas somewhere. But what's American semi-Pro? What is it actually? Just more organization for men's league?

I think if you get paid $100, if you ever get paid to play basketball-A per diem?

I played on TBT. I was on a roster. I recorded a stat.

I think I might be semi-pro. It's not professional, but it's semi.

There was a payment for it. There was a million bucks for the winner.

Sounds like somebody needs to update their bio.

Yeah, for sure.

I'm looking at this picture. You want to know something funny, though, on the picture? I actually did have seven or eight DMs asking if I wanted a collab after that line came out,Oh, hell yes.which is just awesome.

Are you going to do it? What about for us? What about for part of my take? Next hoodie we put out, can we get you to model it for us?

That'd be big.

Can I wear short shorts?

Yes. It's actually a must.

Actually, we should just sell shorts.

We'll have quigs just make them shorter and shorter and shorter.

How did you decide which letters to take out of Rusillo? Because it's RSLO. You said, Okay, I don't want two S's, don't want two Ls, and then some of the vowels.

Yeah, use a strong letter.

It is. It's a great observation. That was the graphic design team. I didn't really have a ton to do with that. There were some times we were looking at different logos, and then you realize you're just like, What can you really do with an R that hasn't been done before? Maybe somebody out there is a little bit more creative than I am on it. Actually, I know that there is. You know what's really embarrassing? You want to hear something super embarrassing about the RSLO line? Yeah. A bunch of guys in the Manhattan Beach area hit me up every now and then be Hey, can I get some Legends gear? I'll just go like, Yeah, no problem. A lot of times it'll be like some of the former athletes or whatever, and I'll just call up one of the guys at Legends, and I go like, Hey, can you send this guy a package? Good guy, whatever, getting the word out about the product. Then when they did those hoodies and they did some shorts, they did just a few runs of the shorts, but they gave them to me so I could give them to my brothers or whatever.

A couple of retired hockey players, this is so embarrassing. I was like, Do you want any of the ones that say Rusillo? Did they take them? The two guys were like, emphatically, No, I don't want those. I thought, Yeah, if I'm a pro athlete, I don't know that I want some podcaster's name on the hoodie that I want, definitely without his name on it. As soon as I hit sent, I was like, Why did you ask this stupid fucking question? You already know the answer. It was so embarrassing, especially one answer where the guy specifically was like, I definitely don't want those, man.

But thanks. When you're workshopping it, you didn't have any iterations of the Rosillo name? Maybe just go for the heart of it and just go SS?

I knew it would get there somehow. No, we didn't do that. That was smart.

What about L? Just a big L.

Just a big L.

Or how about this? We do the PMT, Rosillo Collaboration, and we do a brand new brand for you. It's just called Hard R. It's for jacked up dudes. Yeah.

That's all on the table. But man, when you pose, when you model, I mean, you guys don't know this. No, we do.

We've modeled many things. We actually have a billboard where we're naked.

The fascinating part of it is no one's legs are big enough for the Internet. No one's legs are big enough. I have great legs. Lizzo. Pft, you've got teardrops. You've got multiple teardrops just dangling off those quads. I've seen your legs. But for whatever reason, people expect anybody to work out to just have Tom Platz-size quads, just to be like, what's the beam on those things? Your legs are just never big enough for the internet, I've learned.

It's good that he's noted your legs.

Yeah, I know. Ryan's always checking out dude.

Yeah, I was going to ask that. When was the last time you met a dude and you weren't thinking in the back of your head, Can I take him in a fight?

Oh, I don't know. Long ass time. Somebody really old.

That's what I like about you. You size up a guy. You know your environment.

Yeah, but even- I'm constantly advanced scouting. I'm advanced scouting my life.

Yeah. Technically, an old dude, you're still doing it because you're like, I don't have do it. You've already said it in your head, not even a problem.

You got me there. You got me there. There's no way around it. Seeing Jerry West take a seat, and you're like, I don't care about his length.

Just pull the table on, pull the chair on him.

All right, so let's get an NBA preview.

Real quick, though, before we do that, just to add to it, because I know you love when I do this. When I'm wearing the hoodie with the RSLO in an elevator or something in a hotel, and that's where you're supposed to say the right one, PFT, but I'll be wearing it. It's a great hoodie. Then somebody will be like, Hey, what brand is that? When I have to explain that it's my name on it, it's just this weird, Yeah, what, dude? You made your own hoodies? It's like, Well, it's a little more complicated than that, but thanks for your disapproval.

That's like telling anyone that you have a podcast because I've been back into that game with meeting my kids, the parents in the schools and stuff, and I've had to do that a couple of times. You just can't There's no way to say, I have a podcast without sounding like the biggest loser of all time. Because people just assume when you say, Oh, I have a podcast, you have a side podcast that no one's listening to. I'm just like, I do make a living off of it. I have to follow up with that. It's popular. It's popular. It's like, All right, okay, cool.

I didn't ask. It is easily the least impressive way to introduce yourself now in society. I don't even know what to do. I don't know what the workaround is because you constantly feel like at a certain level, You have to explain it and be like, No, things are going pretty good. Yeah, right. I have a car thing that I'm dealing with that's frustrating. The brand of the car that I've had three times now, they've reached out to our sales team to be like, Does he drive our car? They were like, Yeah, he loves it. They were like, Does he want to read ads? I was like, Yeah, but I'm also dealing with some conflict with the dealership on the trade-in that I'm not too thrilled about. Then I tried to explain it to the sales guy without being like, Do you know who I am? He wanted to check with a supervisor. He'd be like, This guy's an idiot. What are we doing? What does this mean? I'm like, No, actually, it does okay. You said this years ago. There needs to be a different tier that you're allowed to say, almost a blue checkmark for that introduction if that's your profession.

Yeah, it's a podcast, but not a weirdo.

Yeah, and it pays well. Yeah, and by the way, it's Range Rover for anyone wondering. He drives a Range. No big deal.

No big Land or Range?

Range.

I think Landrovers is the-Proper term?brand.

Oh, yeah. But you drive a Range Rover, right?

I don't know. I haven't done the reads yet. We don't know what's in the reads.

Okay, that's true. That's true. You're a Range Rover sport guy.

Sport? I remember when I went to get my first one in Connecticut, they were like, So your co-host drives a tall guy. He drives a sport?

All right, NBA preview for the playoffs. We delayed this one. Who do you think is going to win it.

I like Boston. I'm scared to death of Luca and what he's been able to do and considering who they've gone through in the West. I thought Minnesota was going to beat him. I thought Oklahoma City was going to beat him. I thought Kauai, if he was healthy. I don't know that I've ever picked against a team four straight times, and they won the title. I picked against Miami every single time last year, and then it was easy to pick against them in Denver, and it played out the way I thought it would play out because it just was an incredible Miami story. There's that haunting thought here. But the one thing that I kept back to in all the prep that you do or whatever, and watching all these games and being into it, is that I feel like Boston has the two versus the one. What I mean by that is, depending on which night you got with the Clippers, I don't know that you really felt like you were getting a consistent dose of a one and two with Paul George and Harden. And against Oklahoma City after SGA, where they actually made it hard on him, and he was still spectacular.

I feel even better about SGA as a player now But beyond just the regular season, the MVP voting, going in the next year. It's like, okay, I don't think there's any debate about who he is as a guy, as opposed to just one amazing year. But the secondary scores were not there for them. They weren't able to provide the spacing. There was a number one three-point shooting team in the league, and I think they shot 32% in that series against Dallas and Jalen Williams. As a younger player, a lot of times, it's just they're not quite ready. It's actually pretty normal. It doesn't mean that Jalen Williams is going to be as good we think he's going to be. Then when you look at Minnesota, whether they had Rudy on the floor or Rudy and the Kyle lineups or just ignoring Kapp with all the open looks that he kept missing, I felt like they only really had to worry about one scorer at all times, and that was Anthony Edwards. He did not answer the bell the way we hoped he would. When you look at Boston, their primary lineup with Prisingis back is going to be five people that you have to worry about, specifically two attackers with size that have been through a ton of these playoff wars already.

I think the defensive challenge is quite Dallas, statistically proving out they've been the best defensive team a few weeks after the trade deadline. What they've done against these really good teams in the West, I feel like the defensive challenge is entirely different based on the lineups, the talent and the spacing that Prisingis is going to provide.

Who do you think is the most important player for the Celtics this series? I've got a name.

Well, it's easy to just say Tatum. If you tell me, Hey, Tatum has to be the guy. Unfortunately, he lives in this fifth best to eighth best player thing, which is always frustrating for that fan base because you want him to morph into one of those top four guys. I don't know that he's ever going to do that. That's the way he'll be talked about if he has a big series, wins finals, MVP, and the Celtics pull it off. But Porzingas really does feel like the most important player, but it's asking a lot of somebody who have not played competitive basketball for a month. I know he scrimaged everything and he's been a full participant, but to go a month plus to be like, Okay, now run out there in the NBA Finals. I wonder if look bad in the first game, and Dallas wins big in the first one, but that's not really how the series plays out. I think a lot of times, game one can be the most misleading game, how the rest of the series goes. But Prisingis stretching the floor and pulling away these bigs, whether it's Lively or Gaffard or Dallas could get really creative with how they want to match up a personnel.

They also in that March first game when they played each other, they ran out a Porzingas-Horford lineup in that as well. Horford can certainly stretch the floor, too. We saw him shoot some big three. Porzingas Przingis could still miss shots or whatever, and then the Celtics win the series. But I think match-up-wise, changing what Dallas has done and making their bigs do something they haven't done before, not that they're incapable of doing it, but pulling that rim protection away, he feels the most important for me. Yeah.

All right. I think you touched on this on one of the-Wait, did PFT have a name, though?

Oh, yeah.

Sorry. What's your name?

It's an old interview trick. You just said that you already know the answer, but you want to hear what the other person has to say. Then what is your name? What is their answer? I was going to say Przingis, obviously. Yeah.

I was going I was going to say Derek White.

No, I was actually going to say Drew holiday.

Well, Drew is-Who's he going to cover? Well, when I looked at the March first matchup, Jalen starts on Luca, but It doesn't end with Jalen Brown on Luca a lot. They run that double screen up top for him. You can't just double Luka blindly. There was a play against Minnesota I brought up a few times where it was hilarious, where I think it was after a stoppage, and Minnesota decided, Okay, we're just going to trap Luca here on the screen. And Luka brought Gaffard up, I believe, to set the screen, and he didn't even let him set the screen and never even got that far. And here come Minnesota's defenders like, All right, we're going to trap him. And Luka just smiles and throws the ball off to Kyrie, who then hits, I think, PJ in the corner for a wide open three. It was all set up by Luca being like, I'm not even going to let you do the thing that you just designed to do against me to change up the coverage. With Luca, it's going to be Tatum, it's going to be Jalen. The Drew part of it, he's stout on the perimeter better, but you could see some of the plays in the second matchup that I've referenced here, that if he gets Drew deep, if he gets anybody deep that's not tall enough to contest, it's over.

I mean, Luca is still going to have, it's probably 30, 10, and 10 every single night. It's really up to Kyrie consistently being more like he was against Minnesota than OKC. Then is P. J. Washington going to be Ray Allen or Steve Allen?

Yeah. That's good. That's good. Nice. A little throwback there. Our audience will understand that reference. What was he last on TV that Steve Allen? 1994?

He was on... Was it The Pyramid?

Yeah, it was. What about the back and forth that's been going on regarding Porzingis and Luca, that they might not actually like each other. It might be some beef there. I think Chandler Parsons put that out there, said actual beef. Then Lucas said, I've probably talked to Chandler Parsons twice in my life. He didn't so much deny what Chandler Parsons said, just have completely eviscerated him as somebody who's completely on the outside of the situation. But I've heard that, too. I've heard that Porzingis and Donjitch didn't get along well.

Yeah, because it's true. I've heard it for a while. I've never talked to Luca once in my life. But does it doesn't mean you have to talk to the person to then know that it's true. Luca is interesting in that. I don't know enough about the story to go, Hey, this is who's at fault, and this is why this is wrong, and this guy.

But I had heard it.

When Porzingas got down there, they're not super into it. But I don't know that... Grant Williams didn't exactly love it either. Although I think, how has no one done the Grant Williams interview yet? I mean, this has to be the major thing. You guys should be getting I know. I'm not sure we can even pull it off our little pop-up shop. But I don't know that it matters. What's actually going to happen? I mean, Luca is going to yell at everyone, including kids. So he's going Once he steps in between the lines, he's an unhinged individual, which I'd probably rather have that than somebody who's unsure of themselves. Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, I would, too. I love it. I hope he yelled at Deuce Tatum. That would rock.

He's like, Fuck you. Deuce could get it. Deuce could get it this series. Yeah. No, Dave actually put it perfectly. I did the rundown yesterday. He's like, I hate Kyrie so much. I think there's a very good chance I come out of this series, Hating Lucas so much more. I think that's what most Celtics fans are going to have to deal with, because if you watch Luca, if you play against Luca, there's just something about him that makes you so angry.

That's what I love about the way the playoffs play out on social media because you'll go, Oh, first time. Now you're watching. And let's face it, there's a million games on. I don't expect most people to be watching all this stuff. I remember Harden being in the playoffs, then people going, Wait, they're just going to run this thing over and over and over again for two and a half hours? He's just going to be up top with the ball, and it actually works a lot, Nobody's going to move around or anything. It's like, Yeah, dude, this is what they do. They've been doing it all year long. Luka is a tough watch with the complaining. It felt like it got dialed down a little bit against Minnesota. It's maybe because they were just was literally in control, and it wasn't Lou Dore's body just all over Luka. The crazy thing about Lou Dore is I think Lou Dore is the best defender for Luka in the NBA. Then you look at the final numbers and you're like, I thought this guy was an awesome defender. You're like, That's not really what it is. Can I make your 30, 10, and 10 really hard on you and wear you down physically?

Where I thought Luca had moments in that series where I'm like, I don't even know if he's going to be able to be healthy enough the rest of the way. He's actually looked better and better. Now with the time off between the end of the Western Conference Finals and the Finals, he should look great. But yes, Celtics fans that are really watching Luca for the first time, if he's the way he normally is, you're going to hate him because he's going to be killing you in moments. He's going to hit big shots. They're going to win some of these games. But he is nonsense. I don't think he can actually help himself. It's not an excuse, but I think he's one of those guys that is just an absolute spaz in your friend group, and you're like, he doesn't even realize he's doing it.

Yeah. It's like Hank when we golf with cameras on. He's good when there's no cameras on, and then he can't help it when there's cameras on.

I own that video, by the way. Let him know if you see him.

Oh, yeah. He's sitting right here. You can get that. He'll get that video. By the way, anyone who's playing- I'll follow up after this. What did you say?

I'll follow up after this. Okay, thanks.

Yeah, hit me up Anyone who's playing Rusillo Bingo at home, he was able to work in some James Harden hate out of nowhere.

So just check that one-off.

I thought that was nice. I thought that was actually nice for me.

I don't know how we steered the ship to... Oh, and by the way, James Harden, he sucks.

Speaking of steering the ship, how's your boat doing? Oh, don't ask.

Well, we're in a transactional phase.

You're about to have the second best day of owning a boat.

You're selling the boat. Yeah.

I am. Unfortunately, I have to sell it.

What's that like? What's the What's that selling? You put an ad in the newspaper, meet a couple of guys down at the docks?

Maybe throw in a free hoodie.

Well, it's a bigger boat, so I'm not meeting anybody. You got a guy to take-I get phone calls.

A representative. Yeah.

Yeah, I get a call.

You should make that guy, the representative of your boat should have to wear a Rosillo hoodie every time he takes a meeting.

Yeah, because we wanted to paint over because the boat's name is Ohana, which means family, which I thought was just too good. I think that's what it means. Can you get one of your tech guys to double check? Because I was like, All right, Ohana, I'm not sure about this. And then they were like, Yeah, it means family or community or something like that.

What language are we talking about?

Ohana is a Hawaiian term meaning family. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah. Lilo and Stitch.

Once I knew that that's what it was, I was like, Perfect. This is great. It was one time, I think I was at Marshall's buying socks because they're cheaper there, gang. They are. There was some art that said something like, The thing I love about my home is who I share it with. So I bought it and hung it up in my house in Connecticut. That's awesome. If you had a new visitor, they'd be like, Wait, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, the boat thing, I was debating a chapter in my book. The editor's like, I don't think that's going to speak to as large of an audience as you need for a boat ownership chapter. But when I bought it originally, I was told if I put it in the charter that I was going to recoup a lot of the money back. I already knew it was bullshit when it was happening. I think I even said that in the negotiation. I go, I don't really know that I believe you or the numbers that you projected and how much it's going to offset. But this is a learning experience, and if I can offset any of the costs, then we'll try this and we'll see what happens.

The projections and then the revenue, I don't even know if we hit 10% of the projections. Then I found out I was paying three times as much for my charter insurance, twice as much for my slip, and then a thousand bucks a month for charter cleaning that wasn't actually happening. I noticed it wasn't happening, so I left some smudges on the inside of the boat knowing that I was leaving the country. That was like, If I come back in a month and those smudges are still there, then I'll be like, All right, so I just paid a thousand bucks for another monthly cleaning. We moved the boat to a different marina, learned how much more I was paying that was absurd versus not even bringing in any money in. I think we went six months without a dollar, and I was like, What's going on? They're like, The weather's been tough. I'm like, Zero? Like, zero dollars for six months weather? There were no tsunamis, I believe, in the area. We're in the transactional phase. I haven't retired the boating community. My license is for life.

That was a, Sir, the question was, How's your boat?

Yeah. No, he just did the audiobook. He did the audiobook chapter on the boat that got cut.

You know what? See, I was soft-pitching it. Maybe the editors are right.

Hank just got his boating license. He might be in the market for a boat.

He'd be your captain.

Hank, just move back to Boston because I need somebody. What I really need to do is going on something in the seaport, but I already looked into it a little bit.

You You're already looking for your next boat? You haven't sold your first one.

Well, I looked into it. There was some boat membership thing that I was like, How does this work?

Hank's part of it.

That's what I'm doing.Yeah, he's no maintenance.Pitch me on it. No maintenance.

Pitch me on it. You don't own the boat, but you own a subscription, essentially, to multiple boats.

It's like a maritime ship.

Yeah, you can rent boats. You have an app. You just reserve the boat you want. They got pontoons. They got center console boats. You walk up. It's fueled up. You don't have to do anything. Then when you're done, you just drop it off. They tie it up for you. You get off, and that's it.

You need friends for a pontoon, though.Me taking out theSolo pontoon will be so depressing.Oh, my God.Oh, my God. I love going out on the boat solo here. I love it, and I don't care. Just because I like driving the boat, but I'm into it. But a pontoon by yourself, it's a whole other level. It's like, what is he trying to do there? I don't know. The other thing, I think the one Hank is talking about, I think the longest boat you can get is a 27-foot center console, and they They told me, I can't ever take it out overnight. You have to be back by sunset, all that stuff. I'm like, I'm not used to these restrictions.

Chicago is the only city where you can take it out at night.

At night?

I'm sure that's going to go really well for Hank.

I will say that I've spent a lot of time on boats, never in charge of them, and going through that process has been a little bit a lot of responsibility.

You're going to be Captain Hank. Yeah.

He is. What are you licensed up to?

I got a Florida license. I don't really know what that means, but they said that was the easiest one to get in the membership. That's safe.

I'm excited to be on this boat with you.

Ryan, basketball question. If the Dallas Mavericks were a boat, which part of the boat would each player be?

Oh, wow. Well, I think Luke is a couple of twin Volvo Penta diesel engines. Nice. Because everybody knows everything runs better on diesel. So there's that. I think PJ would be the swim platform where you're like, Hey, do you want to lower the swim platform? Be like, That's fucking awesome. Be like, Do you want to raise it back up? Be like, Yeah, we could do that, too. And then there's times you're like, Oh, that's right. We haven't used the swim platform in six months. But man, was it awesome when I was thinking about buying it? Oh, shit.

The swim platform made another huge three from the corner. We forgot he was in the game.

Yeah, I think that's good.

Everyone laughed when I got a swim platform. Everyone wanted me to get something way cooler and splasher. Yeah. I said, No, you're going to like that swim platform. It's going to work well with the boat.

Yeah. Then everyone walks around being like, How the hell did you get that swim platform? I didn't know that was on the market.

I think Lively is the fender.

Okay.

Because there's just protection around the rim.

That's good. Kyrie, the steering wheel?

Yeah.

Derrick Jones. You passed over Kyrie pretty quickly there.

No, I'm waiting. I'm saving that. I'm saving that because I want to get it right. I think Derrick Jones It would be the dockmate if you have some remote for a bigger boat to be able to dock going in reverse, especially if you're by yourself. I have a dockmate where it's like, you don't always have to use it. This feels a bit like a PJ thing, but man, people love seeing me pull in a remote control. They're like, You could just do that from the back. You could just do that on your own, the remote. That's like a Derek Jones' dunk where you're like, Holy shit, I almost forgot how amazing this guy is at dunking. You don't need it. You don't necessarily need it, but people love love to see it. When I bring out the little remote, they're like, How does that work? They're like, Hank, check it out. The whole thing's ready to go. Is Kyrie the tender?

What's that?

She don't know what a tender is.

I don't know what a tender is. Come on, Hank, fill this guy in. Hank, what's the tender?

You know the tender.

Oh, Hank.

Oh, no. You don't know a tender? Which is Florida.

I'm going to get back in school, buddy.

Max, what's the tender?

They don't need it for Florida waters.

Yeah, that's why Florida left that part of the test.

It's the Dory, dude.

The tender boat.

That's a typo. Well, look, the tender is if you have a big enough boat, a tender is like the raft or the little 15-foot thing that you drop down. So if you're on a mooring- You want to sound cool.

It's a lifeboat?

No, it's not a life boat.

It's another boat that takes you to your boat?

Right. So if you can't pull into a slip or you can't be in a marina, there's nowhere safe, surprise you haven't read Wide Wide Sea yet by Hampton Side. I've not. But if you... I mean, these guys in these big boats back in the day, they get to close to land, but then they'd have to spend forever trying to figure out where they could actually anchor properly, and then they would take their boats in. The tender is... It can really connect you to life, but if you don't have it, you can feel as if you're on your own and maybe you can't understand the terrain well enough. Yeah, so that's Kyrie.

You're When you're looking at the terrain and you're like, this looks like it's a round sphere, but then you have the tender and it's like, actually, it's all flat.

Yeah, because it's smaller and their perspectives are all different. You're not navigating, you're just short tripping it.

If you're on a big boat and you get to the dock, you think that you're there, but you're not ever actually there until you can get into the tender and actually arrive.

Dock, yes, but mooring, no. So the tender connects you to life and exploration, but it's certainly not the most important part of the voyage. Yeah. This is good.

That was very informative. Very informative. Ryan, not to throw one at you here, but you're good on your feet. If Luca wins the title here, would he be a top seven title run by a single player?

Let me think.

Just off top of your head, yeah. Single player?

Well, it depends on what you think of Kyrie. For the longest time, I think Kyrie's value was... Well, he He diminished it as much as anybody else ever did. In your eyes. Yeah, I don't have any time for people to be like, Hey. It's like, Wait, what? We're all supposed to act like it was awesome the whole time all of these years because he made some shots. Give me a break. So he's actually, in a weird way, Kyrie, if they were to win this whole thing and then everything that happens, it's like he never really had to be a number one, and he's going to be praised as somebody as if he was misunderstood and somehow undervalued, where I think anybody that's a basketball appreciates how incredibly skilled he is. But when people start coming at you with like, he's the most talented player of all time, it's like, okay, so then you're admitting that he's one of the most disappointing players ever? Yeah, true.

Good point.

If you're the best who have ever done this thing that we've seen thousands of players showcase their skills, and he's better than every single one of them. This is what his career has been to this point. But we all know that winning cures all these things, that winning actually completely distorts to, I think, comical ways, the way we'll talk about these accomplishments right after they happen. We cannot help ourselves right after something happens. If Kyrie to win this title, it's going to be some really weird referendums on what we should have been doing while all the bad stuff was happening, not for just one season, but for multiple seasons. The guy looked like he didn't really care about playing basketball anymore. As far as Luca and what this will mean as a single person, it's probably still not as good as Dierks if you want to keep it with the Mavs, because that team was fascinating. Remember, Cuban was like, Okay, great. We won a title. We finally did it. This is awesome, but we're really not this good, so I'm not going to resign everybody. That's a one-man thing. Wade still had a diminished version of Shaq, but he had Shaq, and Wade was so incredible in that one run.

But that team isn't historically one of these great all-time teams. Pretty quickly after that, they were completely off the map for that one. Are there other ones that you're I'm thinking of here? Kawhi. Kawhi with Toronto?

Yeah, Bill Walton. I always feel like the 19 one.

The 19 Toronto thing, it's good for them, but let's also be realistic about what happened in Golden State there.

Yeah, true.

Good point. That one feels a little different. I mean, if Tatum and Brown went down in the finals and then Luca wins a title, we're not going to look at that title the same way.

I think you're saying we might have a chance for top seven. Right around seven. It goes crazy.

Do you even know the other six?

Bill Walton.

Bill Walton.

Mj, 91, Kua.

I'm with you on the MJ stuff because I felt like the MJ doc started telling a story of Pippin that wasn't accurate for how it actually went down. Like Pippen, I know he had the MVP voting year that was really impressive, but you tell me, it was your favorite team. I don't think Pippen was ever really talked about as being one of the four or five best players in the league. Consecutive seasons, the way it felt like the Last Dance told that story. I thought those are two different things.

He's like an all-time player, but you never like, That's the best player. Yeah, like you said, the best player on the team. Can he run his own team? I know obviously they got to the close, but Then you saw what happened.

There's a couple that would come to mind. If they did win in the finals, Jason Kidd Nets would be probably top three. Allen Iverson Sixers, if they had won that, that's probably number one. That was a crazy playoff.

I guess you could throw a Kobe in there.

Late Koby? Which Kobe, though?

'09? Yeah, late Kobe.

But Powell got there in '08. It turned everything around. If Powell doesn't show up, I don't even know if Kobe has the last two rings. Maybe something else happens. The Iverson one, sure, but the East stunk. The East was, go back and look at that East. It was awful.

Yeah. I think we're talking ourselves into it.

So who else we got?

Did we not mention it? So Luca could be it.

Well, it's none of the Warriors teams. It's none of the LeBron teams. What is he? Because they're just stacked. What's that It's not the Celtics. It's not the Celtics in a way.

What about LeBron when he beat the Warriors?

Well, then you have Kyrie.

Yeah, it's true. It's true. But also, so does Luca.

Yeah. A later version of Kyrie. What about any Bird or Magic? Six years?

No, those teams are stacked. Yeah.

All right.

Spurs because he's got Kawhi the second time through. All the other years is Parker, Janobli. I think we just made a top seven.

You might cry top seven. Yannis. Yeah, Yannis is a good 50-point game.

But now we're just naming players.

Kua and the Raptors.

I said Kua and the Raptors, yeah. But Ryan said because everyone on the Warriors got hurt, he doesn't count that as a title.

That's fair. That's pretty much what I said.

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All right, I have a real question here. So Something weird has happened with this Celtics team in the fact that I think maybe it's because they've been around for so long that the national media maybe is trying to poke holes where it's like, are they underperforming? I'm in a gambling chat, and someone dropped a note last night that I thought was pretty interesting. Basically, the Celtics in this run with Tatum and Brown have only underperformed twice. It was against the Heat in 2020 and the heat in 2023. Every other series that they've been favored, they've won, and there's a couple that they were underdogs and they won. What is it about it? Is it because they went so far so early that they've been around for so long that we like, Why When these guys won a title, when you can actually look at it, and I know you like to do this where it's like, tell the story, they ran into a LeBron team. They ran into the Nets when they were very close to beating the Bucks that year, the Bucks won. So what is it?

It's everything you just said. We We completely agree. There's almost an unwarranted hangover with this team, where if this was the first version, say they were a 48-win team, and it's like, Yeah, Tatum and Brown are pretty good. And it's like, Wait, they added Przingis, and they added Drew holiday, and they won 60-plus games, and they smashed all these teams, and their point differential is where with all these other historic teams that won titles. I think it's on that list. You look at those teams, you're like, Those might be four of the five best teams you've ever seen in NBA history, and the Celtics are plugged in there, too. I think they'd be talked about a little bit differently. But I'm as guilty of this as anyone, whether it's the Daily Shows and all the stuff that I used to have to do or still do now, is that you're trying to think of all these different story lines. Like, what does this mean? What does this mean? But I've said it before, when they were in the Eastern Conference Finals in '17, people thought they were going to that year They're rebuilding. Then that's when people were going Brad Stevens for President and the absurd topics of how many players do you take before you take Brad Stevens.

Because of 2017, and guys are trying to say, maybe four or five players, then I take Brad Stevens. I I love Brad Stevens. That's one of the dumbest things we've said in modern NBA history, where you'd be like, I'll take Brad over the other 445 guys. That's ridiculous. But that's the stuff we were doing because we were like, Wait, how are the Celtics already this good? And then you see what happens to them in 17 when they play LeBron. It's like, Oh, wait, they're not that good.

And they still went seven, right?

That was in 18, they went seven. Where it really came down in the last few possessions, and the Celtics could have gotten to the finals there. And that was without Kyrie because he wasn't there for the game. I think them being ahead of schedule early has led to more concerned and perhaps warranted of as if they're this seven-year failure prior to what happens here? 2020, I felt like it's more of a toss-up as opposed to the gambling odds. 2023 was devastating.

Yeah, that was the bad one.

That was horrifying. You have '22 where you're like, I don't know if I really trust these guys to close out against Curry, and it doesn't happen. '23 is a disaster. I think 22 and 23 are baked into some of the... I think some of the concerns are warranted. Look, I've watched them all season long, and there are moments where I'm like, What are you guys going to do? Just going to ISO in this huge possession, and then nobody's going to move and nobody's going to pass? Are you going to fall into these traps if the three-point shots don't fall? That has to be a concern for anybody that's watched them. But I feel like it's added layers that have nothing to do with the 24 roster because this is the best team of all of these teams they've had throughout this entire run, however short they've come up in the conference final. Yeah.

It's funny, too, because that's the big picture, Celtics. Then the small picture is that Jason Tatum, I don't remember a finals where it's like, yes, obviously, legacies are always on the line. But if the Celtics lose this, it's Jason Tatum, we told you he's not that good. If the Celtics win this, he's going to go play the Olympics and then get a Supermax, which will be the biggest contract at the time before Lucas signs his. Then we're going to have the conversation as Jason Tatum, the best player in the league, because you know that's coming. It's like the volatility of this finals for him personally is absolutely insane.

Totally, totally agree. I mean, think about it this way and how absurd this can all be, and this is why I try to push back on it, but at the same time, too, it's not like you've memorized every little intricate detail of all these players. We're like, Well, yeah, but in '83, when Tony, we're like, What? Tatum can play the exact same series You play the exact same series. You come down in the last few possessions and they could lose in game seven. Luka is better than everybody else. I don't think there's really any debate about that. I mean, other than Jokuj, but as far as the series, there is, I think, a significant gap between Tatum and Luka, even if the numbers will tell you it's a little bit closer. But Tatum could be great the whole time. Conversely, Luka could be great the whole time. And then the opposing team hits that one big shot towards the end, and then we act like that player is completely different. Not so much even for Luca, because I think most people look and be like, Okay, this is a nice little reminder that last year was fluky, and he's probably the best offensive bet for one possession of any player in the league.

But the Tatum thing is going to be weird because I'm going to go like, All right, well, he's awesome. He's awesome. It's awesome to have Jason Tatum as your best player. But I'm not going to start putting him ahead of Yannis and SGA. It'll be interesting to see how far somebody goes with it because people won't be able to help themselves the morning after it happens. But my general point is the player is usually the same, but the The outcome is different, and history is only to remember the winners. But then we have to add this other part of like, well, can't Tate him just still be awesome and be like a top seven guy? Like, no, do you not understand the rules? We've got to say, Would you rather have him than SGA? Which I think would be wrong even if he wins it?

Yeah, I think the rules are if he wins finals MVP, Celtics win, then he's the number one, two, or three player in the NBA. If he loses, then he's outside the top 10 entirely.

And a bum.

He won't be outside of the top 10.

No, he's a fraud. No, these are the rules.

He'll be a fraud, right? No, a fraud and a bum.

These are the rules.

Yeah. No, I'm saying if he loses, we will drop him. I can sense Hank- You can't get to 10.

You can't be reasonable.

I'm not saying you're wrong. We'll get to 10. No problem.

I will do it. Try to get to 10. Give me the hypothetical tatum, Loses the series in six. No problem. The 10 ahead of tatum.

We got Jokich.

We got Donchich. We've got Embiid.

Embiid. Sga.

Why does he always get a pass for just never being good in play?

Oh, Hey, Hank, shut the fuck up. Hold on. We're just doing this hypothetical. We're doing a hypothetical. Embed, so that's four.

Yonis.

Wait, we did Jokić. Yeah. Jokić, Donchik.

Said Yonis twice.

Embed, Yonis, SGA, that's five. Anthony Edwards, next up. Next, Michael Jordan, that's six. Jalen Brown played better than Tatum in the finals, so he's at seven.

Yeah, that's true. You got to put KD in there still, too.

Kd, you got to put him in there out of respect.

Lebron. Lebron, great player.

And Anthony Davis.

I was going to James Harden, but yeah.

James Harden. It's Zion, too. He doesn't get hurt.

If he doesn't get hurt, look out.

Trey Young. Trey Young. Listen, I can- You love Trey Young.

Who yelled Trey Young?

Yeah, I can keep these names.

Oh, Kurt Steph.

We didn't say Steph. Oh, Steph. He might be like 15 if you let us keep going. Yeah, Tate. Maxie. Maxie, Tyrese Maxie. He's just getting warmed up. Max just threw it. Did Maxy? Tyrese Maxy. Did you just get warmed up? Did Maxy? Maxy. Oh, Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson. Great point.

Absolutely. Jalen Brunson, say what you want about he would never lose in the finals. Yeah.

Yeah. No, he definitely won't lose in the final.

Yes, he will not lose in the final.

You didn't mention my guy Booker.

Yeah. Kevin Booker. He's above him. Oh, Wemby? What the fuck are we doing? Wemby? Wemby might be number one. He's guaranteed. Yeah, it's easy. This is an easy game to play. This is light work.

I'll admit, I have a problem with Embiid being named so soon. Oh, there we go. I just want that stated for the record.

Why is that, Hank? Curious to know your thoughts on why you don't think Embiid should be top three.

I'm over it.

Oh, okay.

Go off. Max, you can unmute your mic, Max.

Put the camera on yourself.

Yeah, put the camera. This is a Max versus Rassilo 1v1. Here we go. Because he gets hurt. No, I'm willing to understand the argument that he gets hurt.

Oh, wow. Thank you.

What He understand it but not accept it.

The guy who's built a glass.

When we say he's made out of glass, Max tries to jump through the window.

He got a fucking Bell's palsy. How are we supposed to predict Bell's palsy in the playoffs? All right, what does that have to do with someone's medical consistency? Okay, but what about- It's fucking Bell's palsy. Fair point. What about everything else? All right, he still had a good play off.

You get Bell's palsy from using crutsches too much. All right. That's a fact.

So, Rizel, you're over it. That's your opening statement to Max.

To the world.

To the world. And what would be your follow-up to over it?

So Zack Lo, who we all love and have a tremendous amount of respect for, he was... I love... I can't get enough of the top five stuff, okay? I make myself do it before the season starts, and I make myself updated again during the season. I'm a little bit more stubborn with it where I feel like if Luka were to win this, forget Jokić, right? That guy's just invisible. It's like, Luka is the best player. There's not going to be enough room on the Luka is the best player. And I'm going to emphatically, I may even tweet I'll be like, Jokuj is still the best player in the world. Just want to remind everybody. Not a big deal. I have Luka, too. I voted Luka, too, for MVP. But when it comes to Embiid, I think for the longest time, because I think a lot of us that were neutral or fans were huge fans of the personality, felt bad about all the different injuries, felt bad about people giving him shit for being upset after the Toronto series, and then Ben Simmons taking swipes at him, and then Ben Simmons mentally shutting down and never being the same except posting workout videos all the time.

And then Ben Simmons posting another thing when the Sixers had lost the play-off, and he's fucking at home doing nothing, like trolling the Sixers and Embiid. I was team Embiid for a really long time. I voted on MVP two years ago, and I had a really hard time with that vote because I just didn't know. I was like, Are you going to feel great about this the way the rest of it played out? But part of it's just because of how aggressive I think Sixers fans were about the Embed-Jokuj argument, where I felt like they just really weren't even watching Jokic, but were totally comfortable just dissing him the entire time as if it was insufferable, or actually they were insufferable, insulting to suggest that anybody was better than Embiid. At this point, what am I supposed to do with him? Zack Lo was like, he's irrefutably in the top four. I was like, Let's refute. Yeah. Let's refute because it is, at least the way I have it, I have it as Jokuj, Luka, Janis SGA, you could flip a coin with. I think it's those four. That fifth spot is not reserved for Embiid for me anymore in the way that it was prior to the season.

At some point, man, at some point- This season, he was incredible.

When he played this year, he was awesome. It was the best year of his career. What are you talking about? This might be This might be the best new debate show. And he averaged 33, 11, and 6 in the playoffs this year. Better than fucking Tatum's averages in the playoffs. We might have just- And I just sent you guys a stat about Tatum. Yeah, I saw that. What he's doing in this payoff. I saw that. We'll get to that. This might be the best new debate show because Rosillo just comes in calmly with facts, and then you just have an idiot screaming into a microphone.

I like Max, first of all. But I sensed a tone change from Max from the first time when we talked about Embiid. It's like he needed to get warmed up. Yeah, he got worked up. Yeah, good to have you here. How about this? I don't give a fuck what any of his stats are. I just don't give a shit. His PER was actually on track to be the greatest single PER of anyone. I mean, those are incredible. I know what the numbers are. I know what the final totals are. You know what I'm sick of seeing? I'm sick of seeing playoff games where I need him to figure out a way to unlock the possession and get him into his stuff on his own in a way that I don't think he's capable of doing the way other guys are. He's just not. And part of it's the center position. He's this incredibly skilled guy for his size, which is what attracts us to what's possible with him. But I've just watched enough. I'm not going to debate people on this anymore. I've been saying it for fucking years. Catch, late possession, dribble, bring a late double.

He hasn't figured out some of the stuff that he needs to do to get me beyond the 30, 15, and all the awesome shooting numbers that you could... Any MB guy can beat me over the head with all sorts of stats. I'm asking you, if you're a Sixers fan, do you feel super comfortable in those moments where it's up to him? I don't. If you do, congrats to you for having unwavering faith.

But I want to know how many players like that you are comfortable with. Well, I have a question for you. Jason Tatum, no matter what, is the only guy on the court. Every single time you go to him, you're comfortable?

I think he can get himself into something easier than Embiid can. I think Embiid is still a dependent. I don't know. I think in those possessions, I think Embiid is still someone that is dependent upon someone getting him to where he needs to go to work from. And that's just a simple big guard perimeter.

Yes, Max, that's what you need to say is that there's no center in the league that could do what Rosillo is talking about. Oh, fuck. There is. Jokić.

Oh, that's right. The guy's Sixers fan shit on for two straight years, and then saw him in the finals. I was coming to your defense. I just can't believe some of the Sixers stuff. Oh, man.

Shit. I was trying to defend Max there, Ryan. I guess I know too much ball. Joguj is good. Joguj is good. He made that a quote. Joguj is good. That was good. That was good. Hank, do you have any questions for Rusillo? He's been through a roller coaster these playoffs. He was very scared of the heat. Game 2 got him to a point that we hated seeing, where we had to drag cocky Hank back out of him. He's now back to cocky, Hank. He's feeling himself. But I know he also deep down, there's a lot of pressure because, like we said, the Celtes has been around for a long time here in this iteration. I have not won anything. Everyone's going to talk about the East being so easy. He knows how much is at stake for him personally. He said he might just disappear from the Internet if the Celtes don't win this series. So, Hank, get your worries out to Rasillo.

How important is game one? Can they lose game one and still win the series?

Yes, absolutely.

Because that-So you're scared.

That's how you just think about game one.

You're terrified. I am thinking about game one.

One game at a time. We need it to start.

No, but-You can't win two until you win one.

You're not thinking about one game at a time because you're saying if we lose game one, can we still win? You're already thinking about game two.

Rosillo, is game one a must winner or can't lose?

Blame pie.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. I I don't think it's... I think it's more important for Dallas to get that first one.

Oh, okay. So can Dallas win the series if they lose game one?

Yeah.

What? Because, yeah, home court.

How does that work? Because no, if Dallas loses game one, can they win? They have six other chances to get four.

They've still got their home games all ahead of them. You can drop one game on the road.

Does anyone here think that one team is severely better than the other one?

Team, yes.

I'm betting on the Celtics to win easily just so I can get really mad at the Celtics when they don't.

I think the Celtics team is better than the Mavericks. I think Luka is better than everyone else on the Celtics team.

Hank, you raised your hand in the background. You think there's a pretty big gap between Boston and Dallas?

Yeah, I do, which makes me scared because in the past, the Celtics have tightened up in some of these big games, and they know they're the better team. If somehow they drop one of the games early, then they're going to tighten up. That's That's my biggest fear. They're the better team, and they know that. But you lose one game, maybe it's a close game, and all of a sudden, things get tight, pressure gets turned up.

Pressure creates diamonds. Yeah. In 22, I picked Golden State. The statistical models were all over Boston. I mean, some of the models were absurd how much they love the Celtics and their chances of winning the finals. I was like, God, this feels really dismissive of who Golden State is. This time around, I don't I don't want to be dismissive of Dallas because I don't know that you can look at any of the year-long stats. They're two completely different teams. They have bottled up some really good offensive players here in the playouts. They shut down an Oklahoma City team that you thought like, Okay, at least they're going to score. Can you really turn off their offense? Other than SGA going crazy, that game for SGA, that's not supposed to happen. Hit every mid-range shot to start pulling up because he knew he had to do it all on himself because of how good the defense has been from Derrick Jones and Pj taking on SGA and the rim protection and Kyrie being more aware and locked in off the ball and showing real effort for the first time that I think I've seen in six years from him defensively because I think he's had some decent moments in the past.

And where Luka, who's not good defensively, it hasn't been an issue and he hasn't been targeted. I have a ton of respect for them, but I just feel like Boston can attack him in a way that hasn't happened before, at least in these playouts, and maybe they figure it out. But I've just seen too many series, man, where game one happens and then everyone thinks that the rest of the series is going to go the way game one goes. It's just not the way sports work, 48 hours later. And also, you'd have to think if Boston's down, that because they've been through this before, that has to mean something. It has to mean something that Drew Holodey has been through some of the stuff, not with this group, but all the years that he's been in Milwaukee. And my favorite thing I've ever learned from this is when you're down and the other team is close to you and talent, That other team should be so motivated to not be blowing the series. And look, the Minnesota series could have gone a couple of different ways if Minnesota just didn't screw up with the basketball down the stretch.

But Luke is the best closer in the game, and that's what you're faced with. So if it ends up being a bunch of close games and Boston's not hit three-point shots, this could easily go Dallas's way. But I still think Boston has more options than they faced so far.

If someone on the Celtics was going to win finals MVP, not named Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown, who do you think it would be?

I think because Derek White could probably be somebody they ignore, and he hits a ton of threes. But remember, the final stuff becomes almost Heisman momenty. Whether it's the quarterback Super Bowl thing or it's a leading score, best player, whatever, we give it to Tatum, give it to Luca. But there have been other times where I think they were like, Jalen Brown won the Easter Conference Finals MVP because of the three-point shot, and then I think finding Derek White for that other big three against the Pacers. I think Tateum is clearly more important. The way other teams defend, they're more worried about Tateum first and then Jalen second. Same thing happened against Miami with Hero on Jalen Brown and then Caleb Martin on Tateum. Same Same thing happened against Cleveland, where Stru starts on Jainlyn Brown and O'Coro's on Tatum. They actually switched that one because Brown was going off. And then with the Pacers, they had Neesmith, who's their best-equipped bigger wing. He starts out on Tatum, and I think that should matter somewhat when you're looking at who's actually dictating what's happening in all of these games.

Yeah, the Finals MVP becomes a popularity vote unless your name's Steph Curry.

Yeah, I still hate the 15 vote so much. I hate that vote. It's like, Yeah, but Eweidalla. You're like, What?

It's such a funny trivia that Steph Curry has one Finals MVP.

Defense, though. Defense is important.

Yeah, defense is important.

What about the coaches? Can you give us a breakdown of strengths, weaknesses of of Kidd and Missoula?

I think Kidd's strengths are something where it's like, there's never going to be a moment where he's ever going to be thrown off by any of it. He's played in the finals. He's coached a few different stops. I think the broadcast has done a good job in talking about how there's just this respect that you're going to have for a kid that you're not going to have for other coaches. Pro athletes, Big Cat knows. He's friends tons of them. These guys will absolutely stop listening to you the second they think they should stop listening to you. Usually, that'll start with somebody who are like, What did this guy do again? He fucking played at West Virginia. Like, what? Where on the other side, it's Jason Kidd. It's not really the Xs and O's as much as it's getting the message across to these guys. But I think in a series, the coach is that it's this fine line of like, Hey, this is who we've been. This is who we've been this entire season. This is where we're at now. So let's not freak out when Luca burns us on the thing that we want to do defensively.

Let's not burn through a bunch of different looks just because a guy hit a three in the corner. But then I think some coaches It was just like, I had all these plans, and I told myself I was going to follow the course, and now none of the things I was prepping for are working out this way. So let's change everything. And then the players are like, Wait, what the fuck are we doing? We mapped this out. We said these were going to be our rules. We said this is how we're going to send help or not send help to Luca. Now, TJ Washington hits three shots in the first quarter, and we're going to start scrambling as if the whole playbook is thrown out. I don't think Kidd would ever be that way. Missoula is a tough for scattering before because he just hasn't been around as long, and the team is loaded. Yeah.

Couldn't you say that that's actually a strength of Missoula as well, where he has his system and he just keep... Because the Celtics, when they don't shoot well from three, can look like the worst team in the NBA. They've had it a couple of times in these playoffs were twice. But he's like, This is our system. We're going to keep doing it. We're not going to just change it because we-They're not changing that.

I think you're absolutely right. Maybe stubborn is the wrong word there. But when you think about the body of work here, you're like, Wait, you want me to do something different because there's going to be a night a few threes don't go in? I think my biggest issue with the Celtics, and we've talked about the closing part of it, and there was that Atlanta regular season loss where I was like, Are you guys seriously going to do this? When they blew the game to Cleveland, and the other part of the lesson is that we don't really have that many games like this to really even point to. And then with any Dallas bad stretches, we just erase them because you're like, Okay, they close the season 12 and 3. They had this incredible defense. So what is there really to critique? But the analogy that I've used before is if you have a really special score, and he's getting his 22 shots up a game, you know there's going to be five shots in there where you're like, What were you thinking on that? That's just a contested shot. You missed a read here. This was It's too early in the shot clock.

What are you doing? But the problem is, and it's not really even a problem, but that's almost a tax, not to get into that topic. That's a tax. Those five shots that you don't love are all baked into the rest of the shots. You're like, I can't believe he made that, or I can't even believe he was confident in his abilities enough to even take this shot, especially in a playoff game, where you're going to need guys taking really difficult shots because other guys are just not going to be as comfortable. That's what the superstar is tasked with. The Celtics, from a team standpoint, I'll watch all these games, and I know they're going to shoot a million threes, and they do a great job of just stretching the defense out in all of these different corners. But there's also going to be five or seven threes. I know you are really three You weren't happy, and I know everybody has a green light, but that was 16 seconds left in the shot clock, and you took that one into the break, off or dribble, and you didn't even look at what the defense was presenting you, and you decided that was the best shot, and it was way too early.

So even though their overall shot quality is really high, I guess I'm being a little too stubborn with it. Stubborn, again, isn't really the right word, but being too critical of the handful of possessions that every team is going to have in every big game. You're like, What the hell was that? But did anybody make you take that bad shot, or did you just decide to go ahead and take it? That's been the green light part of the Celtics team. Yeah.

All right, last question, rowback question. Robackquestion. Roback. Com, promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, and swimsuits, rowback. Com. Rhoback. Com. Promo code take. My last question for you, Ryan, is do you have numbers that you can share with us in terms of in the gym right now? What are we currently working with?

Okay, obviously, You always get the injury stuff with me, but got a 24 reps. No excuses.

You can't do that after you did the Embed stuff.

That's fair. Well, if he put up 24 reps of 225, let me know.

Ryan, I'm over it. I'm over Always hurt. Always hurt. Always does it as a caveat for his bench press.

Almost killed himself building a squat rack in his garage. Over it.

I'm not dying today. Not dying like this. You should actually do that as a script. A guy who dies at the end of the movie?

No, it's like Lone survivor, but it's just Ryan Rusillo versus squat rack.

I've got one for sale if anybody's interested.

Where are you squatting these days?

I haven't squatted now for a while.

I could tell. We could tell on your legs. Over We could tell.

I saw those pictures and I-We could tell.I commented using several burners. Yeah, we could tell. We stapled these twigs to Rusillo's torso?

I feel like you passed over that bench press number quickly. 2, 25, 24 times? I asked somebody for a spot, and then he was like, What are you doing? That happens. Because I was like, I'm feeling it today. I was like, I feel really good today. I was like, Let me see what I could do. Let's see. Let's see what happens. Then I just, you know what I did? Towards the end, I was struggling, and I went, Choose to be strong.

Oh.strength is a choice. That's good.That is huge.Mind over matter.Yeah.Yeah..

I was like, Wait, how many more do you have? I go, Hey, why don't you just choose to be strong? Choose strength.

It's a great hashtag, Choose strength. Yes.

Speaking of, what happened with Billy football on a few different fronts?

Where do you want to start?

His political career seemed quick.

Derailed. Yes, he got derailed. I was ruined. What happened? I was ruined for Billy. He was trying to get the signature Signatures necessary to be the Republican candidate in New York's third district. He ran up against the establishment who challenged all of his signatures. They found a couple of errors in the signatures with addresses, things like that. Basically, they had lawyers. Billy didn't have lawyers. So they just kept suing him and filing court cases against him to the point where Billy was like, I can't do this. I can't pay for it anymore.

That sucks. The swamp got him. The Firefest guy challenged him in a fight, or was he just He's trying to promote his brand? I think it's safe to say he's promoting his brand.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't think he wants anything to do with Billy. I mean, I've seen the footage. No. Well, I mean, you're Billy.

Yeah.

I don't know because Firefest Billy just won his first kickboxing match. He knocked the dude out. So the Firefest guy wants to kickbox. Billy is just a...

He's a prize fighter. Yeah, we can't sanction a kickboxing fight. And we also, I think after the Jose Conceco fight, we made a hard and fast rule, don't do the fight business with guys who are known schemers.

You think the Firefest guy is a known schema?

Let's hear him out. You are in the fight game, though. It is true. There's always some gray area in there a little bit.

Yeah, that is true.

Imagine if the Firefest guy kicked Billy football's ass.

I think he'd be the new Billy football.

Yeah, we'd have to hire him.

He'd have to get the surname football.

Oh, I don't want to see that.

No, I don't want to see that happen either.

We shared it on the pod today, and I know everybody has to run here, but I like to update different confrontations that I have throughout my life because I've gotten to a point where I'll just say, Hey, I think you're doing this wrong. Instead of stewing and being quiet, like how we mostly do, I got to worry about myself here a little bit. I'm going to just say, Hey. I was at the Equinox in Soho, and some kid had the rope pulled down. I asked if he was using it. It was on the ground. He was using a different attachment on the cable, and he said, Yeah, I am going to use it. I was like, If it's on the ground. He's like, Yeah, I'm using it. I was like, Okay. I already sized them up. Dickhead probably went to choke across. So I got my Timer going to keep my pace lined up with my goals. And five minutes go by my Timer, he hasn't He got the rope, the rope pull-down thing. So I just grabbed it. He's like, What are you doing? And I was like, Do you realize what you're doing?

Do you realize that if everybody did this, took future accessories and piled them up around them so that you wouldn't have to wait, that would fuck up the The entire ecosystem we have here, right? He still just could not understand. He could not understand that I thought what he was doing was wrong. The other night, we wanted to swing a golf club, first time since calf tear. Seventh hole, I'm lining up a put on the I mean, par 3 at night here in LA, and the guy hits right onto the green. I go, That's weird. All right, whatever. Par 3, rules are out the door. Nice shot. And then I was like, Maybe it's a one-off. I blade my T-shot on eight. He's walking up, sees it, goes, Nice shot. I was like, Wait, what? Am I actually getting the business from this kid? And then as I walk from the tea box to my tea shot, which is just behind the green, I was going to have to chip up over this mound to get it back on. I did. Save par. And as I'm walking down the fairway, he just tees off again and actually sticks it right at the pin.

Then I wait till 9:00, I go, What the fuck are you doing? He's like, I'm sorry, sir. I'm just very confident in my abilities.

That guy rules.

I went like... And he was athletic. He's an athletic build. And I was just looking at him and I thought, to your point about sizing people up, I was like, Well, if he's that good at golf, he can't be tough.

Yeah, it's a good point.Right?

Yeah. If you're really good, if you hit a couple of good shots every now and again, then you can be an athlete. Yeah, the fluid nature of a swing is not a tough guy thing.

He's got to practice a lot of golf, probably hangs out with other golfers.

Yeah.

That's what I said to him. I go, If you're this good, then you should know what you're doing is fucking stupid. I was like, What's going to happen here? He's like, I just really wanted to play with you, man, in condescending TikTok voice. And I went, All right. And I was like, okay. And my favorite thing to do is like, oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. I'm wrong. I'm the wrong one here for being annoyed by the shit you're doing. And then as I finished up on 10, I was talking to these other guys because he's like, Yeah, he yelled my backswing. And then his final act of defiance is he hit his T-shot off a 10. And as we were walking away from the green, he screams for the top of his lungs and his shot was on the total other side of the green.

I like that. He was just an asshole.

I like this guy.

He was just an asshole. There was some good pranks. That's a good bit.

I like this guy. I want to be friends with him.

Ryan, the story of at the gym, you texted me that because that was the night after the Wisconsin JMU game that we I went to.

Yeah, speaking of confrontation.

Yeah, the never-ending. But when you texted that to me, you were like, I'm hung over, got into a verbal altercation at the gym. It made me realize one of the best cures for a hangover that no one ever talks about, getting into an altercation with someone. Yes. It gets your blood going. Adrenaline boost. It gets some adrenaline. You get clear. Your brain turns clear. It eliminates all the fog to it.

I like to jerk off instead of that. But yeah.

Smoke weed, jack off, or get into a verbal altercation in public.

Yeah, it's a safe one. A safe one, controlled area. Because getting stabbed would probably make the hangover. The hangover part would go away, but then you're not going to have different issues. But I love these little moments because as I've aged, I start to think more of us are aligned. More of us want the right things. More of us. I just think we need to develop Fuck Up Island. Did you ever watch Moonraker and James Bond, the guy just wanted to blow up the whole planet and start over with a bunch of tall, hot blondes? That's aggressive. But if you just had, Hey, you guys want to-If it's the other guy that did that. You guys just want to punk each other and get in each other's way, scam systems, and fuck everything up for everybody else, make fraudulent insurance claims. Here's Fuck Up Island. You guys just all live there, and you can all deal with each other and all the consequences, while the rest of us that don't want to be like that will be over here. Maybe we'll get some more stuff done.

So that was a perfect ending because you came up with Firefest.

No, I came up with Billy football's new campaign strategy of Fuck Up Island.

I think you can't buy houses anymore.

I think you just invented jail.

Yeah. Australia.

Yeah. Future jail. Yeah, Australia. Reinvented. Maybe Australia rebranding. Yeah.

All right. Well, Ryan, you're the best. We love having you on. Hopefully, we'll see you soon. Maybe grit week.

Yeah. Well, I don't know. Sons Boat, we'll see. But maybe it can rent something. Maybe Hank will have a lead on something and we can have him captain it.

Yeah. Oh, that would be so emasculating. What if you still had your boat and Hank just stepped onto it? He was like, I'll take this from here, Ryan.Yeah.Captain Hank's aboard.Don't worry.

Would be tough, but I'd know that Florida training in a second. Yeah.

Oh, man. All right. Thanks, Ryan.

Thanks, guys.

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Okay, Henry, let's finish up with guys on Chicks.

Dudes on Chicks.

Dude, DudeFest is going to rock so hard. No, Hank, did you hear that, PFT? He's mocking.

I'm echoing. That was the definition of an echo.

I think that Hank thinks his job is to just tell people why all their ideas are not realistic.

Yeah, can everyone- This is just insane.

Everyone who listens to this- This is insane. Please tweet me if you think I should let Hank come to DudeFest because his attitude stinks about DudeFest.

Imagine being on the wrong side of history at DudeFest.

What have I done or said that would suggest I'm on the anti-Dude Fest? A lot.

Just play it back.

Yeah, I'm just trying to iron out your thoughts.

My bad. Do you want to come to Dude Fest?

Of course. Are you sure? Yes. Do you want to present to Dude Fest?

Yeah, we should do a nine dartter challenge.

I've got an idea for the start of it. I've got an idea for the start of it. Yeah. Hank, you want to lead everybody in? I I want to stand with you on a mountain. Yes, that's how I name the song. Truly Madly Deeply.

Do you want to do it?

Yeah, I'd love to. Unfortunately, we don't have time.

You got cut again. Darts is a great idea, Hank. You're back in on Dude Fest.

Max, do you want to do Truly Madly Deeply? I'd love to. Okay, great.

That's something where we should pay. There's certain budgets. Big-time weightlifter, we need to pay for that. The guy who whistles, we got to pay for him. Darts. We should get a couple of professional daughters.

Hey, PMT, guys. My boyfriend and I always discussed this, Would you rather? Would you rather all of your teams win this year and never again or let it play out as it normally would, both ways you don't know about the choice that would be made. Thanks, guys. Love the show. Yeah, this is definitely a dude.

There's no way that-So are you saying-his guy and his girlfriend talk about this. So are you saying all my teams win- This is a guy and his buddy. In one calendar year, and then it never happens again. I know it's never going to happen No, you don't. I don't know that it's never going to happen.

You don't know it's going to happen again or that it's never going to happen. I think you got to take the year.

It would be a great year.

Well, because I'm thinking about all my teams. I'm thinking about my college teams, too. I don't think that my college teams are ever going to win a title, so I'm basically getting a guaranteed one that I would never get.

Right? So the way I'm breaking it down, I've been fortunate enough to have Cap Stanley Cup champions, Nationals, World Series champions, So I would get Wizards and Commanders.

But all in the same year.

I barely remember the Redskins in 1991, '92. I think I would take it.

So We're sweeping the entire board for an entire year. You have that for the rest of your life. You're like, That year was the greatest year of my entire life.

You know what I would do? If that happened to me, I would retire from being a sports fan. I'd walk away on top. I'd be like, It's It's been great. See you guys. But you wouldn't because you wouldn't know. I'd secretly... I wouldn't know, but I feel like it might be a move to just say, This is as good as my life will ever get as a sports fan. I think I would take it.

Yeah, because if you don't take it, you're basically trying to say that you'll win more over the course of your life, otherwise.

Yeah.

But life is, listen, you never know when it's going to end.

You don't want to be looking back, being like, I never got to see the one team that I really wanted.

The key here is to know that you wouldn't be able to know that that was the end. Because if you knew it was the end, I think that changes the whole hypothetical, where if you got all your championships in one year, but then you knew at the end of that year, you would never win another one, I don't think I'd take that.

But maybe if... So speaking from mine and your perspective, if we had this year, and for you, Wisconsin football and basketball one.

And women's hockey.

And women's hockey. If James Madison won the national Championship in football, in addition to all my other sports, I think I would figure out that something was going on. I'd probably think I'm already dead.

No, you would be like, This is going to keep happening. This is my life now.

It's me. Is that how it goes, Hank? Before you realize you're never going to win again.

I think that's the answer. As long as you had the ability to not know what was happening, because if you knew that you would never, ever If you were to taste it again, I think it would ruin sports for you for the rest of your life. That's what happens. Yeah, if you were guaranteed. No, but you're not. You still don't know what's going to happen. True.

Sup, Dad Cat, PFT bagger, and I'm Hank. My husband will only buy fall-scented candles despite it being a billion degrees outside. Our house always smells like a brisk October morning, and he says it's to remind him that football exists right around the corner. That's heaven. Is this normal behavior?

It's genius behavior.

It's genius.

It's really small. Even in the summer?

What do you want your house to smell like in the summertime? The ocean? No, I want to go to the ocean, but I want to smell football.

Yeah.

I want to smell leaves, pumpkin. I want to smell football.

Pumpkin in the summer?

Yeah.

I was thinking about this yesterday. I wish football season was in a different part of the year.

No. Hear me out. No.

Hear me out.

I won't. Just hear me out real quick. I actually don't want to hear you out. Hear me out.

I think... So obviously fall is the best because of football season. But would the spring be the best because of football season? If football season was in the spring, and here's why. We always have the summer going into football season, and I find myself, I know this is wrong, trying to wish away the summer, which is the best season in terms of weather. I try to wish away the summer to get to football season. I wish we had summer after football season.

No, you're wrong. We do have spring football.

Maybe I just wish we lived in Australia. I would solve it, right?

The seasons feel different. I like the fact that football, it's like a warm blanket over you as the days get colder.

I agree, but I'm saying more, what if football season started in Thanksgiving and ran Thanksgiving to April, and then we had all summer?

In the spring, if you're watching football on a beautiful, beautiful Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, whenever the games are, you feel like to a certain extent, you should be doing something outside. That's a fair point. If you're in the fall and it's getting shitty outside- September and October, though. You're like, I'm going to be inside watching football all day, staying warm in my house.

But you do have those feelings September and October. That's why I'm saying keep the winter football Keep late fall winter football. Again, this is a dumb idea. I'm only saying this because I found myself wishing away summer, which happens all the time where I'm like, I wish football season would get here. You shouldn't wish away summer. But that's just my natural because you have this big dangling carrot at the end of summer that I'm so excited for.

So when's the draft?

I don't know. Again, this also isn't something I'm hoping they would change. I'm hoping they could like men in black all of us and change it without us knowing.

I guess it would also No matter what sport would take its place in the fall.

I don't fucking know.

Because if there's no sport, then it's just we get the dead days of baseball for longer.

But think about it, football started in late October and went till April. And then it's summer. Move playoff baseball up. September starts in playoff baseball. When playoff baseball is over, football starts. Yeah, it's not that we don't get fall football. We still get a lot of fall football. I just hate wishing away the summer, but I find myself doing it all the time.

I think for the kids out there going back to school, you need football on TV.

Yeah, no, I agree. Listen, I love the fall. I love the fall.

You go to college and you're so excited because college football, right off the bat, you don't have to waste your way through two and a half months of just going to class.

I would love for someone to figure out a way for me to stop wishing away the summer. Maybe I got to get a boat.

You should get a boat.

Have Hank captain it.

You tried to do that. What? You threw that out there last year.

Buying a boat and having you captain it? Mm-hmm. Now knowing your boat record.

It's immaculate.

I don't want to do this again.

I don't want to do this. Are you a strong swimmer?

Yeah.

Good.

All right, last one. Not a lot of good ones. All right, that was the last one. All right. Yeah. Be better, AWLs. Send them in.

Or memes.

Or memes. Memes be better. Be ashamed if something happened in this room.

Be ashamed if memes went back on a pip.

Yeah, that would be a shame.

Memes never on a pip. Well, personal pip.

Oh, he's definitely been on a pip.

Personal pip. Yeah.

Well, legally, we can't tell them.

Oh, we can't?

Actually, no, I guess you can.

I think you have to.

You have to. What's the point? You're on a secret pip.

He's been in and out of pips. He's been pipsy hustle.

Yeah.

You could count more days that Memes is not on a pip, or more days that he's on a pip than not on a pip. Isn't that right, Memes?

Yeah, this is a great conversation.

All right, let's finish up. Great show, boys. We made a great show out of nothing going on. Numbers. 8. 20. 18.

56.

That was close.

I think I got you. Hank just took 8 for the first time.

I was looking at a picture of Porzengus.

3. Who was first, me or Hank?

I'll give it. I know. I mean, I honestly don't even care about this. You got the jinks. What number would you affect?

Psych. 8. No, I don't.

If you didn't-I always pick eight. 99 Pug.

Max, why don't you care about this? Because you never-It's a second number. No, it's just stupid.

I don't have a second number.

All right, two. He said second. Eighteen.

I'm not even going to look at it. What was your Shane 20, Memes 3, Pug 99? Shane 21, yeah. 21? Yeah. Max, 56? 56. 82. 82.

Me and Hank together. Love you guys. I'm talking away.

I don't know what I'm about to say. I'm saying it anyway.

Today's my day to find you.

Shine away. I'm coming for your love of gay. Shine away.

I'm coming for your love of gay. 7,4,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4.