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Life is just a combination of time and energy. Isn't it limited amount of time, limited amount of energy if you run into walls here and there? Time and energy will go and your life will go.

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It's very important you run through the door, not through the walls, just where there is openness. There you go. Good evening, I said good evening.

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So today.

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Everyone hear me. So today we're going to talk about two different buckets. One is about the self and the other self context within society. Between those two, it is a very common theme of figuring out what our purpose is within self and society. I think it's something that a lot of our generation faces dubbed the millennial existential crisis, something I've been through myself. So to start off today, we want to figure out when it comes to purpose what has defined what your purpose is in this world as it has led to you being here at Columbia Business School and the Youth and Youth Program, as well as if you have any words for other people in the audience or just me, would be fine as well around.

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How do we find purpose in this world talking about buckets. I think you should kick the bucket because self and society are not entirely two different things.

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It's so many people put together a society, just a world when we don't know, when we do not want to address you as an individual, but we want to address you as a group of people.

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We said this is a society that's just a word. If you really come down, there's just only people, individual people. Well, a certain group of people may agree upon a few aspects and they may think they are one society. But if you further go down, people are just people, individual sort of just individuals. You can't really manage them and say these are all one kind. There's no such thing. Maybe there are a few things that they agree upon which makes them into various kinds of society.

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If you are a secret society, maybe there are more things that we agree upon, but we should kick those buckets, because when we see that to address issues in the world, we cannot go about addressing individuals. Then we make a society when we find societies are not still effective ways to handle, then we make it a nation. When we see that is also not an effective way to handle. Then we make a global situation, not an international forum or something like this.

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So this is only in terms of when we're looking at solutions, how to find a larger solution. A larger solution is something always individuals will disagree with in so many different levels, isn't it?

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Is there any one thing on the planet that all of us agree on did no such thing. Individual people always disagree with something, but we also agree it's all right because it seems to be working for everybody.

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I don't like the speed limit in America, but I agree with it.

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All sorts of people are driving. All right. Seventy miles.

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I drive driver that once.

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In a way, I get heavy on the right leg, but that's fine.

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So what is the mission, you ask?

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If this same question was asked in a different situation, people would be in a way, this also borders on that. People are asking what is the God given purpose of my life?

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Whatever is the source of creation, what makes you think the source of creation which created this cosmos for which you do not know where it begins, where it ends, even keeping account of you forget about giving you a specific purpose. Maybe the source of this creation doesn't even know you exist.

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Hello.

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Because this very solar system is a tiny little speck in this cosmic space, isn't it, tomorrow morning? Believe me, if the entire solar system evaporates and nobody will notice it, that's how small it is in that speck.

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Planet Earth is a microscopic.

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New York City is a super, super micro speck in that you are a big man. This is a serious problem.

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You think there is a God given purpose for you? This is the peak of human arrogance because.

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All this is coming from the basis that is being spread in the name of religion and faith and whatever that the existence is, human centric existence is not human centric.

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We just one more creature which happened recently according to the evolutionary sciences. Yes. Even today, if you do not know this, if all the worms on the planet disappear today. In 12 to 18 months, all life will seize on this planet if all the insects disappear somewhere between four and five to six years, all life will cease on this planet. But if all the human beings disappear, the world will flourish.

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Planet will flourish. All right.

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So this sense of assumed, self assumed significance that people have brought to themselves has made us walk with absolute insensitivity on this planet, absolutely insensitive to every other life, because we think everything is here to serve us asking.

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And does it want to serve you? Hello.

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Go sit on an ant hill and check whether it wants to serve you. It doesn't want to serve you.

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It doesn't matter what kind of books you write for yourself and don't believe it. If you don't understand about the ants, you come to the southern Indian Forest.

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The Tigers definitely don't believe it or that they are here to serve you. You will be served to them.

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So this idea, we must give it up, because whenever people thought, wherever it was propagated that I am doing God given purpose, I am fulfilling. They did the most horrendous things on the planet.

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Whenever people said God told me this, those people did the most horrible things a lot, so it's time that we are here as human societies, we have issues, we have problems or struggles, whatever you think needs to be sorted out and whatever you think is your aptitude to sort out, you pick up that damn thing and sort it out. It's not any God given mission. You got to do something, do something useful because there is some joy in solving something.

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All the choices we have, you can either be a part of the problem or part of the solution, if you enjoy being part of the problem, do it.

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There'll be consequences. Yes, sometimes it's fun to create problems.

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Yes, it is.

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But it'll have its own kinds of consequences. The only thing you have to learn is do whatever the hell you want.

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Just do it well. But for every action you perform, there is a consequence when the consequence comes your way, if you are able to joyfully go through the consequence, you can do anything you wish. But when the consequence comes, you cry. If you're that kind, then you must control your action.

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What if you're just a crybaby, though, then, you know, if you were a baby, you must be with your mother. Mothers, she said she has more than one mothers. I'm saying mothers.

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So on the note of purpose, one thing that I think that I'm constantly chasing is and I would say, I don't know when I've reached it, is the pursuit of happiness. I think everyone in this room at some point, maybe now you're asking yourself or ask yourself, like, have you have you reached.

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Have your pursuit of happiness and kind of understanding why it can be elusive? For me, happiness stems like I think of my family because they're such a critical piece to my love and happiness. But oftentimes I feel like I lose sight of it when I'm in this room, when I'm at Columbia Business School, when I'm at work, because I'm trying to get to that next level ultimately to to help my family. But how do we keep track of what's most important and that purpose for me being my family and the pursuit of happiness?

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So you're you're of Mexican origin. Family may mean a different thing to you, Alex.

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Family means mindcrime tears of laughter. You know, my parents. No, no, and a few decades ago, when the Italians said family, it meant crime, all right.

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So family is the smallest unit of society, but if you get overly identified with it, you will become a crime.

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You must understand this, all the crime on this planet, all the human crimes that we commit, only human beings commit crimes, nobody else does.

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What you call is evil, what you call is genocide. I'm going to the extreme words, what you call us, prejudice.

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Everything has come because of limited identifications that each one of us hold. This is my family. This is my race. This is my religion. This is my nation. It is from this. All the terrible things happen on the planet, isn't it? People who are doing this, they believe at that moment they're just doing the right thing.

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This is what identity does to you. You need to understand the very structure of human intelligence that are different dimensions of intelligence. Unfortunately, today in our education systems, we are exploring only one, which is the intellect.

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If I ask you a simple question, please, you must answer this, because I'm going to bless you with the end of the answer.

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Would you want your intellect to be sharp or blunt chest light? Because only if it's sharp, it works well because it's a cutting instrument. Yes, it can only dissect now if you using this intellect to do everything to cut, it's OK. If you want to also stick with it, you will be introduced. Is that the reason why all the trousers are going into tatters? Essentially a cutting instrument, if you try to use it on everything, it can cause a lot of misery right now.

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Please see for most of you.

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Even though you're from Brooklyn, nobody ever stabbed you with the dagger? Not yeah, they ignored you.

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So I'm asking how much physical suffering has actually come from outside? Almost nothing. Rest is all in self-help if you sit by yourself. Why? Because we give you a sharp intellect. If we had given you the brain of an earthworm, you would be fine.

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You would be fine.

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You or know right now the problem is just this. We have a cerebral capability which most human beings have not learned how to handle. Hello. You can call this address, you can call this anxiety, you can call this misery, you can call this reality, you can call this murder, you can call this whatever. Essentially all that's happened is your intelligence has turned against you, that's all. Why has this happened? Simply because of limited identities that you have taken.

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It may look like my family, my nation.

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It is all these people. See, if you are strongly identified with something, you are willing to die for it, isn't it?

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Hello. If you are willing to die for it, you are also willing to kill for it. Yes or no.

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Whatever you are willing to die for, you are also willing to kill for is not the only problem we have on this planet right now. Everybody is willing to die for something and everybody is willing to kill for something. It could be family. It could be nation. It could be race, religion, whatever.

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Is it not time that you upgrade your way of how you identify yourself with what do you identify yourself? There was a tradition in traditional education in India before a child starts education. We believed that even now we do this to some extent from zero to twelve years of age. No, any kind of learning, just a child should play well, eat well, sleep well, because our intent is the brain should go to grow to a reasonable size before we load it with something.

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It's a sensible thing. Not. They want to speed learning at the age of three. Some people are saying when the mother is pregnant, how to teach the child the mathematics.

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So 10, 12 years of age, we don't want to teach the child anything except to eat well, to play well, to sleep, because these three things will decide how your body and your brain grows.

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So before we start education process, there is a thing called fixing the identity of the child.

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So one mantra that they will start sending is Alhambra must mean this means my identity is Kozmic, not even global.

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My ID is not with my family, not with my father and mother, not with my nation, not with my religion, but my identity is with the cosmos.

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See if your identity is not with any limited thing.

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If you walked into this room, you actually have no problem with anybody just like that.

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You may get into trouble later. That's a different matter in transaction's friction can happen. But the moment I walk into the room, just looking at your face, I'm having problems. This is a different level of problem, isn't it? Hello. If I am identified with my nation or religion or race or whatever, the moment I step into this room, I already have a problem. Before I met you, before I really have a chance to have trouble with you.

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When transactions begin, frictions can happen. That's a different matter, but just by looking at your face, I'm having trouble.

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This is because we are identified with something very limited and the nature of your intellect is such. Please look at this very carefully. Anything that you identify with your intellect will strive very hard to protect that identity always.

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And your intellect is like a knife.

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It cuts whether you physically pull out a knife and stab somebody or you poke people with your intellect, it can equally hurt, isn't it? Hello? Oh, yes.

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Can you hurt somebody with just with your thoughts, your emotions, your idea, with your words and whatever else? Just the way you look at them, you can hurt them.

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So your intellect is essentially a cutting instrument, a sharp instrument, because you said you want a job. I hope you've kept a job. It's important to keep it sharp, otherwise it doesn't work.

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So the moment you identify with something, your intellect is striving to protect that identity. Young people, it's very important that you if you cannot imagine a cosmic identity, at least a global identity is a must for you. Otherwise, you being empowered by education, you are the source of future disasters.

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So I want you to understand this. Why is it why is it all the cutting edge technology first goes into military use? National identity, isn't it?

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Are certain. The most powerful tools in the world are all designed how to eliminate you one day.

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So our brains are working to protect our identity all the time. Well, I don't want to get into any political stuff, but the world may be a more clear manifestation, a more blatant manifestation of that, but essentially it's limited identity, isn't it?

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Why is it that I wouldn't like to kill my child, but if you are walking in the street to get ten dollars out of your pocket, I will tell you why.

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Because you're not mine, isn't it? Certainly my identity is only with this, not with that.

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So one fundamental thing humans do, because all of you are in primary institutions getting empowered with education. Education is an empowerment. That means without education, what you could do, maybe you will do a hundred times more with education when you have such a possibility. It is very important. Your identity is not a limited identity, at least at least identify with the planet and all the life on this planet if you can't think of cosmic.

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Thank you for that answer, that was really I'm sorry, I was referring to the Italians, just no, I think you touched on a lot of things that are quite pressing for us at Columbia, in the US, in the world at large.

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I mean, you went around the issue, but I think I'll kind of bring it in our politics in America where more and more divided than before and quite polarized. For me, this is something that troubles me as someone in this community that has some less than popular opinion. Sometimes I'm conscious of how I'm received because of people who are, quote, passionate of these identities that they're in to tend to use your words.

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How can I and others that share, I guess, my desire to bring people together in a divided world, divide a community, even a divided street? How can we kind of be individual actors to get people to focus on everything you just said?

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But we have in common and not what sets us apart to find solutions for any problems or any situations, because many people think it's not a problem. Right. So to address any situation, first of all, we must face the situation as it is now.

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You're saying it is getting more and more divided? I don't think so. I think it's always was divided. You may not face it. Well, many of us face it. I face it.

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Every time I come to the immigration, the way they talk to me way was just looking at my face.

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You should see the way they address me.

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Does that make you angry? Now, when somebody asks stupid, why will I get angry?

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When somebody is exhibiting how small they are, compassion, not anger, pity. No more pity if I'm in a good mood.

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Compassion, anger, another thing, because you're just showing how small ague are just Telegu are not hatched.

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That's what I'm saying. So you must understand.

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Very deep rooted divides have always existed in this society, you don't want to face it, you've been glossing over it for a long time. You can look, I'm sure you're not naive enough to believe in just two and a half years of your celebrity president. Suddenly, country has become divided. Come on. It always was divided. Now the language is reached the top. Yes or no, it's just that the language is coming to the surface. I think it's better come to the surface than just boil inside forever.

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At least let everybody face it. This is what we are.

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Hello. You must face it, I'll tell you, I come to immigration, I follow all the rules, I have a global entry.

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All right.

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I come after I pass the immigration because I'm, you know, constantly I'm in all kinds of bright lights. So this fluorescent light kind of irritate me. So I wear my shades after I cross the immigration.

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When I come to the baggage. Do you know what does not happen? Once this happened? A few times they asked me to come and take off my glasses. I said, why do you want to come to my office?

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I'm saying, what the hell are you trying to enforce on me? There are many others, white Americans walking around with glasses.

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You don't ask them to take it off today, I'm telling you, in the 21st century. All right. So you don't believe you are a just and fair society. Suddenly, because of a new president, something has happened. I'm glad he's bringing it to the surface. The leadership is talking the language the way it's been. They've you may not face it. You may not face it because of the color of your skin. Many of us are facing it.

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Yes. If you if you walk into some of these golf clubs and stuff, I can play better than them. But if I walk in there and say hello, they'll just look through me.

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All right. So if somebody is going to be hurt by this, they could be hurt. I'm not that kind. I just see their pathetic condition of mind that they are like that. So it doesn't bother me. But suppose I'm seeking a job or I want to do something else.

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I'm sure they would make sure that things don't work for me. Yes or no.

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So this is not a new happening.

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It's been there maybe slowly. Things are changing, but I think it's good. It's coming to the surface. It's up in your face. You're facing it. You're embarrassed by it. It's a good thing. That is a first step to transformation. And I'm saying something about. First up, the transformation is now it's out in the world we see it and something in India also, we have divisions at an all time high was now that second step that we can take as individuals going into the society to improve.

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Again, you repeating that even in India, it's an all time high. It's not at an all time high.

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It is just people. And media is playing it up at a certain level. All right.

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Unfortunately, in a democratic society, there should be a free press.

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Unfortunately, all media across the world is owned by some corporation or the other.

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It is no more free. It is no more free. It is tangled up with money. Big time there, no more dedicated. I'm not saying they're not at all. They're largely they're not they're they're all serving a company.

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All right. Yes or no? Hello. It is time we produce some journalism because media is not just another profession in a democratic society, it is an important pillar of democracy. Yes, without it, oh, democracy will slowly go into something else because democracy means every four years or five years, depending on what the term, a new set of people are going to rule the nation. It could be a complete mess if there is no checks and balances of various kinds.

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These are all going away because people have taken sides beforehand today, you know, in America and India also.

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We know now it was not some time ago, but these days we know which media belongs to, which party everybody knows. How can it be media? You can't call it media anymore.

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I'm saying yes. Media means what they will report, what is there they make and they can give a commentary about something. But essentially their business is to throw the facts or does it for us to form our opinions about what facts that come to us.

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But today, don't you already know which media belongs to which party?

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So when this is the condition, you'll hear a lot of things. And there is social media, anonymous journalists, those who don't dare to put their name on what they are saying.

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They are saying all kinds of things. But you walk through the country and see whether it's India or here.

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It is just the same as it was.

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There are problems and there are solutions that are happening, isn't it? So if you go off television and switch off your phone and walk on the street, you will see everything is quite fine.

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I just have one more follow up for, I guess, young future business leaders in this room. We are at the very small businessmen. Oh, yeah.

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Well, you are a fashion icon or guru and more. We don't want to limit your business leaders, you know, and you have a great throw of a Frisbee where the videos work.

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But what role can we play when people aren't as enlightened as, I guess, the people in this room and can't really make the same connections as you? Because we do have agency, right? We are people that want to make a difference and are willing to kind of have the courage to, I guess, have compassion or pity depending on the mood we're in.

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How do we how do we I mean, how do we do this?

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Because I think that's something that I would I genuinely want to.

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Play a big role, if I can be honest, I think it's something that I at least would like my life's purpose to have something with that I'm sure in your own little ways within the university, some sense of, you know, bringing some sense of I believe you're bringing some sense of equality and some sense of acceptance for all sorts of people within the university at the same time.

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Do not take this thing about becoming a missionary for something, because then without knowing what's happening to you, one day it will be totally skewed and off the plate and you will be the source of problem. Once you take on something with missionary zeal, you will see you will get so badly identified with it and you yourself will become a source of problems.

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Uh. I think I can share this with you. When I was just 13, 14 years of age. I almost got into armed struggle. All right, this is the time when we have raised our big brother and we are thinking of armed struggle.

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We think that's the only way to find solutions for India.

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Well, then I saw people who were espousing these teachers and, you know, openly in schools and in colleges, professors talking about how you should all join armed struggle.

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A particular professor who had less sway on a few of us and his son and his daughter, they were twins, both his son and daughter.

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They were my classmates.

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And we are already actually in one of the three to four days we are supposed to leave the jungles of Andhra Pradesh to go and fight.

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Then I asked this fellow whose name was O.J., I say, so we're all going, what are we taking? So no, I'm not coming. I said, What? No, my father doesn't want me to go. So he wants us to go.

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He doesn't want his son to go.

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Then I said back in part, what is this about? I thought, we are all in the revolution and you have a revolution.

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I thought we are all in the revolution. And suddenly, OK, the girl is not going because only the boys were going.

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All right, but at least this boy is supposed to go.

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He's just my age in my class.

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But no father is saying, no, you cannot go because you can't die, that these idiots must die. And actually, I step back.

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I participated in various Mully bordering on revolution, sticking posters and doing this and then giving that kind of stuff, writing very strong what we thought was justice.

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But actually, when I look back and see so juvenile and unjust by itself at that time, it looked like this is just this one thing we must understand the moment we speak about justice.

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I know this is a delicate thing to speak in America, but I want you to look at this with much with absolute openness. The moment we speak about justice, unknowingly, we will talk about revenge slowly.

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We will just slip into that. So when we is just as needed. Absolutely. But I'm saying the moment you start talking about it, it's like freedom. The moment you say freedom, you'll start doing freaky things because freedom is a consequence. So is justice just the consequence of a mature society, justice is not a cause that you take up because the moment you take it up as a cause, then you will see divisions will happen. You versus me will happen once you versus me happens, even for the right reasons.

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All the wrong things will happen, isn't it? Suppose in the name of justice, these two segments of this student body gets divided. Even if it's for the right reason.

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The result will be all the wrong things, isn't it?

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Hello. So it's very important we understand what is the cause and what is the consequence, injustice is a consequence of an immature society. Injustice is a consequence of a limited identity. These people have taken in so many different ways.

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If you do not take that and try to bring justice, all you will create is a full on fight.

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And when a fight happens, there'll be no justice of any kind. All that will happen is pain and destruction for all sorts of people.

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But when you're in that mode, because I know this, because I was so fired up for those few years, I thought, I'll go to all of my friends went one. I don't know where it disappeared. The other one got killed about eight years ago. He became a major revolution leader in Canada and he got killed by the police. And when his family informed me about this, you know, this boy was so dear to me. He was just one year younger to me.

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Why I'm saying this is the moment you speak about consequence as a source, you're creating trouble. Annoyingly, you will create more damage than solution right now. Why does injustice happen? Why would I be unjust to you?

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Simply because my identity and my commitment to well-being is about myself and maybe my family and maybe my community, not for you.

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It's already said it's only a question of time when you and me come in touch. This prejudice will find expression, but it is set in my heart, isn't it? So instead of working at what is happening within the human beings, which will take a lifelong commitment to solve today we can go out on the street. Justice for everybody. Justice for everybody. All you need is a, you know, a placard and shouting for one day and go back home.

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So always we will pick up consequences as a cause. Don't do that.

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Don't talk about freedom. Talk about responsibility. If we live responsibly, we will have a free social society, isn't it? If we talk about freedom, we will do freaky things. I come from that era where next to revolution was freedom. OK, we grew up in sixties. Freedom, freedom, freedom. All that happened is by the time I became 35, at least 12 to 13 of my very close friends all died either on motorcycles or because of orders.

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Yes, because freedom.

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So freedom, justice, equality, these are all consequences of evolving a human being to a certain level of maturity, if you are not willing to do that, work on an individual level, that each human being here evolves to that level of maturity that you're not willing to do these things will only cause more trouble.

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I think it's very related question, but really targeted towards organized religion and something that I've struggled with, so I understand the pursuit of freedom, justice. But oftentimes what I've struggled with in regards to religion, I grew up Catholic.

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I'm Catholic is its view and limited acceptance of the LGBT community and the fact that I am LGBTQ and trying to understand how I fit in. And oftentimes I was not accepted. It depended on, you know, how progressive a church was.

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But how do you see religion playing a role in in the justice, in being more tolerable, compassionate towards people from different sexualities?

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A bishop went to the mental asylum not as a patient, but to give a talk, so they gathered people like this.

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He spoke. Nobody was listening to what he was saying.

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They were all busy with their own things, but they were just one guy in the front room who, without batting an eyelid, was listening and drinking up every word that he was talking. Nobody else, not a single person was listening except this one guy after an hour long speech.

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The moment the talk was over, that guy got up when they're like there is a dean in the hall, there was a medical professional that he went to him, said something to him and then left.

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So the bishop was very eager to know what that guy said because nobody else was listening.

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He was the only guy listening. So Bishop inquired with the doctor, what did that guy say? He was listening to me very kindly.

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So the doctor said he just asked, why am I in and why is he out? As a follow up, what are your thoughts on human sexuality?

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Oh, I didn't think about it, but I was born out of it. I'm a consequence, some of that fun. But I think it's the one thing that you've mentioned previously is that sexuality shouldn't be promoted. I think that was in one of your your talks.

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And so I'm curious, kind of I assumed and again, this is my assumption that when you when you mention that I almost felt as though, you know, don't publicize your gayness or don't publicize your non gayness. And so I'm trying to understand how why you said that.

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I thought this is one aspect of life which doesn't need publicity anyway. People will go for it, doesn't need any marketing. I said hello.

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If you want to sell a drink, you have to market it. If you make a movie or to market it, if you write a book, you have to market it. Sexuality does not need marketing.

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Hello. It's been armed for a million years without any marketing. All right, so I said, why are you publicizing it? Everybody will do what they have to do. What individual people do with their bodies is their business. It's not a public debate.

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So I think we're about to wrap up our questions and open up questions to the audience, so we have the two questions before we get there. My favorite topic, real mentioned food. You cook yourself, I believe it was also published a cookbook. Mm hmm. Can you talk a little bit about food from the yogic perspective or what are the things that we should be actively doing on a daily basis if I do choose to go to less than four out one day?

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When it comes to food less sinful in terms of the gluttony that I do, I do it with food and water, tenants of the diet that I would be looking at.

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And sorry if you have a favorite recipe to share.

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Oh, right now we are running two good restaurants and another three four OK restaurants because I am also a food buff, not for eating, but for cooking.

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I don't get much time these days to spend that kind of time, but at least my daughter certifies that I'm the best cook in the world, so it can't be wrong.

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So I carefully this is a very unique type of recipe because we are families who have come from Andhra Pradesh. At one time, Telugu families were moved into coordinate a particular kind of region where the space is available in 800 different forms.

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So our families have been initially Marshall families.

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Later on, they became business families, the men who go to war and the men who go out of the country for business. Those days when there is no text and email and all this when they go, the only way the women can get their men back is by holding by the tongue.

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It's the taste of the food because they've gone out, you know, they were going out to Burma, Japan, those things way back. I'm talking a couple of centuries ago now. They have no reason to come back.

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Because it's not like today you hop onto a plane and back in a few hours, it's months of journey, you kind of tire, what's going to bring you back?

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It's the taste of food wherever you go. This place is just eating you up.

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So they always came back.

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So they said we hold them by their tongues. Otherwise, these idiots, you can't hold them any other way.

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So a lot of culinary expertise, enormous mastery over these things.

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So I picked up a little bit with that. I prepared a kind of a set of menu for this restaurant today. It is rated as the second best vegetarian restaurant in Asia.

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So if you happen to be in Chennai, Hyderabad, you must go and eat there.

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So what I'm saying this is C how to extract pleasure out of this planet.

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In this, cooking is an important part of enormous pleasure. Of how to extract things out of this planet, which causes enormous pleasure when you don't know anything else, the simple way is to no all your senses, you just get smoked up.

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One way will do. But to prepare this meal, you have to go out into the garden or the jungle and pick specific things for different things. This was like a normal thing. You know, they'll go out into the field speaking that specific thing for today's cooking. So this kind of care was there today.

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That kind of care is difficult because we just on the run, everything is on the fly so that there's not much done.

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But still, it's hugely appreciated the moment people come in, come in touch with it, that is there.

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So what kind of food? Two parts to the food. One is, after all, it's fuel for this body, so it should fit into the system. Well, that's important.

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Another thing is it has to pass through the tunnel so we don't have to gulp it down.

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We want to enjoy it.

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Whichever way. When you're hungry, when you're really hungry, anything goes, isn't it?

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Hello.

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The question of survival. Let's say you've not eaten for five days. Whatever the hell horrible thing comes, it's great.

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But we passed the stage. Most of the people on this planet have passed the stage. But survival is pretty well taken care of.

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Now through my mouth is watching because I'm thinking of my own cooking. I have not looked at your book yet. So these are two different aspects.

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But the first is most fundamental and important. I will not go into the second because that's another matter. When you talk about food as fuel, food is not religion. Let let's understand this. Food is not a philosophy. Food. Food should not become an ideology. It is just a fuel for this body.

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In what form and in what composition will it provide this body? The best nourishment with the least amount of trouble.

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That's the whole thing. So if you want to look at it like this, first of all, you're not none of your biology students I. No, just business. So if you look at the human system the way it is in the animal kingdom, you can largely divide animals either as herbivores and carnivores.

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There are, of course, mixed, but largely so.

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If you look at the basic physical structure of these two kinds of creatures, you will see there's a fundamental difference in the way their body is constructed, particularly the digestive system.

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When we say a digestive system from the lip to the anal outlet, digestion is happening at various different levels. This is called the alimentary canal.

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To start with the way our jaws and our mouth structure is.

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If you look at it, you must have noticed this. If you have a dog or a cat, if you not seen tigers or lions or carnivorous animals have only cutting action in that moment, that's all the herbivores have. Cutting and grinding action. You. What do you have? Hello? You have both cutting and grinding action.

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Why is this so? Because there are certain enzymes in your saliva that digestion begins for you in your mouth, not in your stomach. The more the food stays in your mouth, the better your digestive processes.

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Now that you are using your getting in yoga in some systems of yoga, I don't go by these things. But I just I want people to decide by the by the texture of the food how much you do this. But there are some systems of yoga. If you don't know how to chew this, every mouthful you must chew 24 times. But it's 24 times. You must do this. If you do that, at least 30 to 40 percent of the digestion will happen in your mouth itself.

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Already it's been prepared. Now food is primed well in your mouth.

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When it goes inside, that is what the stomach is expecting. Half digested food so that the rest of it can be done quickly. But today, most people are just gulping things down because you with every food, you're getting free coke so that you can take it like a pill.

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You can gulp it in and gulp it in.

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Now, the moment you put sugar in your mouth, these enzymes will not function. If you take any carbohydrate, let's say you take any grain little, you take rice and keep it in your mouth, you will see within 30 to 40 seconds it'll turn sweet because it it makes carbohydrates into sugar right here. But if you put sugar in your mouth immediately, that system gets reversed and that process won't happen.

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So with your food, your having some sugar loaded drink immediately, this part of the digestive system is gone. You're not using it at all. So everything is on this. So this is being overloaded. It's not just an accident that 50 percent of the world's antacids are consumed in United States of America, 300 million people are consuming 50 percent of the world's antacids.

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This is a statement on the food that you're eating.

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Hundred percent, isn't it? It's a clear statement that obviously we completely eating the wrong kind of food.

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If you look at the length of the elementary canal, even if you look at the insides are smaller, the way the carnivorous animals and the herbivores are made, your structure is all herbivore. If you look at the length of the element, we can only all the carnivorous animals. It could be anywhere between three to four times the length of the body of the animal.

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In all the herbivores, it's five to six times the length of their body. If you look at your own elementary canal, it is anywhere between 24 to 30 feet. This means it is five to six times the length of your body. Why? This is Sois if you eat any vegetable matter. Let's go a little slowly. If you eat, let's say Romit.

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It will take anywhere between 70 to 74 hours for it to go through your system if you eat cooked meat, if you cook it well and eat, you are doing rare. All right. That's a different matter.

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If you cook it well and eat it, then it will take anywhere between 50 to fifty four to fifty six hours to go through the system. If you cook the vegetables and eat it, it will take anywhere between 20 to 30 hours to go through the system depending on the type of vegetable and what how much fiber and other things. If you eat a vegetable, it will take anywhere between 12 to 15 hours to go through the system if you eat a fruit.

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It will take one and a half to three hours to go through the system. Any food which stays in your body for long periods of time is excessive bacteria in the system. You spend a lot of energy just to fight them down. And if it stays in the body today, there is enough medical science to tell you. In Iowa, weather in the eastern systems of medicine, whatever problem you go with, first thing is they'll purge you because a clean colon is a symbol of help.

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But the moment you're eating certain types of food, your colon can never be clean. There are issues and problems today, the amount of colon cancer, intestinal cancer is so heavy because one thing is are eating food, which is not suitable for the system.

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Another thing is that eating old food, when I say old food, almost anything, everything that if I walk into any store, what I see is any food you want to buy at least a month or two months old.

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Still in India, unfortunately, except in big cities, still, if we want to buy vegetable, it must be up to the morning.

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It is blocked at six, six thirty in the morning.

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We cook at 839 when the vegetable is still alive. We want to eat it and it'll make a world of difference.

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Today, people are talking about farmers market organic stores and works.

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But this is how the world lived 30, 40 years ago before you business guys.

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Totally messed it up. So those of you who I know all this is not possible for everybody to maintain, don't go by what I say.

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Don't listen to anybody when it comes to food. Just learn to listen to your body with what kind of food is your body most comfortable with? Not your mind. Not your tongue. Your body should feel very comfortable if your body is comfortable. One thing is it'll bring down sleep.

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If you're lethargic, goes down, if you sleep goes down, your agility goes up, your alertness goes up.

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This means the body's happy. Nobody is happy with the food that you're consuming after eating the food. If you feel like this, unless you drink something caffeinated or sugar loaded, you cannot get up and do your work. If that is the condition of the body, this is not good for you. You should not be touching that. I would say instead of going by all kinds of prescriptions, there are simple ways that not here, but we could teach you how to become alert to the food.

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If something appears on your plate, you must know whether this will go well with you or not. It happened to me many times and always with food, but I'm saying sometimes food is being laced with some poison or something. If it just comes before me, I just look at it and I'm not eating this. That's not good. Something is wrong with it. Seriously. Simply because your body is capable of that, you just do one thing, throw something to your dog, not your pet dog, he's become like you.

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You know, if you have a dog which is free, if it is free, Brooklyn, there's still some dogs, three dogs, perhaps, or dogs.

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They've got mustaches in it.

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If you throw something to him, one sniff, he knows whether to eat it or not, isn't it?

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How come you don't know you're supposed to.

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You know, in the evolutionary thing, you have the most sensitive neurological system. If you look at the food, you must know how this food will behave within me. Based on that, you can shape the markets of tomorrow, the business people.

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So on the note of what we're consuming and putting in our bodies, one of the things that I'd like to know the truth about is the increase in addiction, I would say, in the US is the lens that I'm looking at. It's something that has personally really touched a lot of the loved ones in my family and friends. And I see it as a growing trend amongst my generation and younger generations, using it as a coping mechanism. Why do you think people are doing this, looking to drugs to solve their problems and what is an organic way for them to solve that?

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It is a natural process of graduation, last generation rent and alcohol. This generation is upping it a little bit. They don't want to do the same damn thing because those.

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There was a time when alcohol was illegal in this country, you know, it went wild bootlegging.

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You know, we're from Tennessee, our centers in Tennessee.

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So bootlegging or moonshining, whatever you want to call it.

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So it went out of control. Then the government decided it's better to put a tax on alcohol and make money, which they did. Now they've decided it's better to tax marijuana and make money.

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Believe me. Watch my words.

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Another 25 years cocaine will be legal. Why not ask?

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I was in India also. There are students campaigning. Why can't we make marijuana legal? This generation, they do not know.

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In the valleys of India and Nepal, Bhutan and the northeastern states of India, marijuana grows.

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Holwell is, you understand? Nobody ever bothers to touch it a few people's hands. Somebody with nothing to do in their life. They smoke themselves up.

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Rest will not touch it because it's all over the place, all over.

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I've traveled extensively in Himalayas. Just we are walking through hash this high chest high simply. You have to walk through the plant. If you just do that, it'll stick to your hand, you can roll it up and you can smoke.

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Yes, some of you are looking dreamy. Oh, this the place to go.

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But now we are suddenly making this into your big thing. They were asking me, why can't we make marijuana legal in India? I said it will never illegal. The American government insisted on destroying all the hemp crops in 1960s because hemp was a very important textile in India.

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But in 1960s, they insisted from America because they couldn't make up the difference. Though hemp and marijuana are the same species, they are of a different kind. Hemp grows up to 15 feet. Marijuana grows just about five to six feet tall. They're different, but the same species, they said, no, you have to destroy it because they thought it's all coming from the hemp farms.

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Hemp was hugely cultivated, but they burned down all the hemp farms. So all the marijuana moved to Afghanistan. So they were asking me, why can't we make it legal, we can right now, the term I don't know what terms you use, it's called smocked up. You're using the same terms am in India is smoke. The smoke is just cigarette smoked up.

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It's the weed. So I said, see, it's very simple.

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We have nothing against anything. It is just that a human being is always trying to enhance his or her life all the time.

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How do you enhance your life?

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Some foolish people believe by acquiring things they will enhance their life. But even if you live in a palace, you could be miserable.

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Yes, enhancement of life will happen only by heightening your faculties, how your intelligence works, how your perception works. Heightening your faculties is the only way enhancement of life will happen.

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Experience of life is enhanced.

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So I asked, suppose you want to fly in a small plane and you find the pilot is smoked up, you want to fly with him?

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Mm hmm.

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I said that, OK, you're not getting the point. You need a serious surgery.

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Then the surgeon comes and he smoked up you under surgery.

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So, you know, so you understand with lower faculties, he will not make a good pilot or a good surgeon. How come you believe you will make a great student? Changing gears slightly, I have a question submitted by the prolific Anonymous How do you Sadhguru decide between your principles, goals, priorities versus the person you like the most? The goals and principles both come from the same mind slash heart. And I note anonymous use the word like. But we can also use love in there to.

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But I guess the question is, how do you reconcile your own goals and principles versus the person you like or love?

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Well, it depends what you have taken up, if your goal is just to earn a certain amount of money or comfort for somebody who matters to you, you should be willing to drop those silly things.

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But if your goals are such that it is not about your comfort, it is not about your money. It is not about anything. But it is a larger goal for the well-being of the people, then you don't have to take a decision. Decisions will happen.

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They will just happen, you don't have to decide. And one other question by Sumita, how do you stop taking yourself and start enjoying the process without losing the passion for your goal? So I know this has become a very goal oriented society. I think I was when I was conversing with you that I was kind of talking about this, you know, every year in the month of November, we have a four day business event called the Inside.

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So around we limit limited to about 200, 220 people, the top CEOs from across the world come some of the top business leaders come. This is a very unique module where we pick up some super successful people and your successes, we kind of break down their success into a lesson plan. And all these people go through that. It's the program that's on.

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So every time, inevitably, almost every time, somebody will always ask this question.

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So the guru, we pick up the best people from the best universities every year. We have to upgrade their salaries. In spite of that, our organizations don't work as well as your organization. What is the secret? And we can see you did not pick them up from the best universities. And above all, you don't pay them anything. They're all volunteers, but everything seems to be working better.

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You must come and see how I would even work and how the yoga center works.

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All volunteers. That means nobody is trained for the job. They just have enormous enthusiasm. They're not trained for the job, they're not qualified, and you can't fire them for inefficiency because they're volunteers how to fire them?

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You try to manage a situation like this, you will go nuts in three days, believe me, flat. But I'll not go crazy because it's a different process. So I said this is all the fundamental differences. I have continuously worked with people to make them devoted to the process. You guys are dedicated to the goal.

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Whatever you think is your goal right now, probably in five years it will not even be relevant to you.

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All right.

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So you are wasting your life going in a direction which may not mean a damn thing to you in a little bit of time possible.

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Unless you don't grow, you freeze, then the same damn thing will mean something to you all the time.

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Otherwise, if you're evolving and growing, what means a lot to you today may not mean anything in the five 10 years time possible on.

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So this gold business, you must leave, were you to set the goals because your goals in some way related to the world, isn't it?

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Why are you hitting the goals right now? There is a situation, whatever is your area of engagement, you involve yourself in that.

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If you do your best with what's happening today, tomorrow will be better or not. Hello.

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This entire process is about being devoted to the process.

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What will happen to me?

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What will happen to me? Where will I go? Where will I go? Shall I reveal the secret to you?

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The last scene of your life is you will be dead.

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That's where you will go. Where else do you think you'll go? It is just that how wonderfully you conduct the process of life, isn't it?

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Hello. You are looking at life as a race to the moment to think of a goal you want to get ahead of him.

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Isn't it the race? If you look at life as a race, you must get to the finish line first.

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This is not a race. Who told you this race? Do you want to get to the finish line before everybody else?

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No, it is. Life is in its process and its detail, isn't it? How deeply you're engaged with the details of today will determine the quality of what we create tomorrow? Yes.

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If you do not engage yourself with the process of today, if you succeed in your goal, you will be miserable.

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If you do not succeed, of course you will be miserable. Just see, this is something that I am constantly speaking to business leaders around the world.

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See, one thing most business leaders are proving to the world is that success is a painful thing. Texas is a terrible thing. I was just talking to a group of board members of one of the top companies in India.

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This is a multinational company, the board meeting, all of them should come with jackets and ties. For the board meeting, I said, see, people make your board members because they put their money, people come and people have put their money nations, economies involved with the success of your company in a variety of things. But they may do the board members, because they believe you guys are sensible people, you will do something that they cannot do with their own money, isn't it?

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Isn't the reason why somebody invests in somebody, a company that you you are going to do something with my money that I am not able to do by myself, by myself, that idea.

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But you guys come with a jacket and tie in 40 degrees centigrade.

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I don't think you got any sense in you know, this is your mindset.

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What kind of decisions are you taking?

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The 40 degree centigrade? You have a necktie. You should you not display sends in every aspect of your life. Can you be just sensible in one thing, the rest of it you can do in a stupid way? Is it possible, if you're sensible the very way you work, you conduct yourself everything, you will conduct yourself sensibly, isn't it? So this is very important. This is because we become goal oriented.

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No. Humans become process oriented. If you are devoted to the process, goal will happen in India.

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There's a big question everywhere you go. The last question will be Sadhguru. That is OK, but the Indian team, how can we beat Pakistan?

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Cricketing, I say, don't bloody try to beat Pakistan for that. Is Indian army.

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If you want to win the game, don't beat Pakistan, bloody hit the ball.

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Hello? Yes or no, you hit the ball if you hit the ball, well, well, you may win. I want to beat Pakistan. Of course, you're going to make a fool of yourself.

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So we want to get to the goal without handling the process. Life does not work like that.

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If you want flowers in your garden, you don't have to buy perfume and go on spray to the roots. You throw filth at the roots. Flowers will come as it is in the process. Do you become a good gardener because you sell the city? I'm sure a whole lot of people in New York City are doing this. They sit in front of their plants every day.

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They meditate, flowers, flowers, flowers doesn't work like that.

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You take care of the soil, the manure, the water and the sunlight. Flowers will come consequences. Not your business processes your business, isn't it? If you do the right things with what's happening right now, consequences coming. If you get engaged with the consequence, you will become miserable. Whether it comes or it doesn't come both ways, you will become miserable.

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So I think we have about 30 minutes to take audience questions.

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Anybody has should prepare them.

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Namaskar Sadhguru. My name is Radhika Kearney and I'm a Columbia alum and stated policy, her not business. And I work at the United Nations now. And before I get to my question, your talks are both inspiring and grounding at the same time, and that's a difficult balance. So thank you so much for coming to Colombia and speaking with us. Much appreciated. So my question to you, Sadhguru, is that there's so much suffering in the world, like when I travel on work or otherwise, one observes that on the one hand there is even a lack of basic peace or there's so much violence.

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And on the other hand, there is even lack of basic resources and abject poverty. So so I would be curious to hear your perspective on why does every single person have such different starting points in life, which would mean like a child based in Africa doesn't even have water and is perhaps will die of malnutrition, has a very different starting point than, say, a billionaire's child who is perhaps sitting somewhere in the middle of North America.

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So why the disparity and then how and where it sits in the larger scheme of things or in the cycle of the cosmos or life, if that is if that's how we call it. And and also then that gets me to the question of then who are we? So.

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That's a very Indian question. You must know I must tell you this, because you're also working at the U.N., we were trekking in Tibet about three years ago and every year we checked there three years ago when I was going, there was people from all over 40 countries trekking with me.

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So one Indian person who lives in the United States stood up to ask a question.

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And the question went on for about eight minutes.

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You've been very brave.

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So the question was going on and all the international audience, their heads were spinning because they're not grasping the question.

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Then I said, please relax.

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This is an Indian question because we have practiced asking questions for over ten, twelve thousand years.

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This is a nation where even when so-called divine entities came, they could not give us any commandments because all we had was questions, relentless questioning.

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Then one Chinese lady who is working in United Nations for more than 30 years, she said, Guru, even in those 30 years when I worked in United Nations, only Indians asked questions anyway.

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So why there is disparity?

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I thought, you know, the answer to that is disparity, because those who have don't care about those who don't have the very simple. Those who have want to take more and more. Those who don't have just don't have. There are various aspects, it found expression in many different ways started with imperialism, and even now we are always seeing every nation is seeing how we can take the maximum resource from everywhere else, isn't it?

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So we know the source of the problem.

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What is the solution? The question. So solution wise.

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See, in 2016, they are telling me some studies saying that in 2016 we produced enough food for eighteen point six billion people, but we were only seven point one billion people on that day.

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But still, 35 percent of the planet is malnourished.

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You were talking you know, the statistics are better than me in the United Nations when we are producing three times more food than we actually need for the population.

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Still, one third of the population is starving.

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Millions of children die of malnourishment all over, not just in Africa, even in India. India has the highest malnourished population right now.

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You know, it's an evolutionary process. You know, Charles Darwin, he told you that you were all monkeys, not me, OK? He told you you were all monkeys and you became human. And today, the genetic scientists are saying that.

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The difference between you and a chimpanzee in terms of DNA is only one point two three percent, one point two three percent is not much of a difference, isn't it?

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Hello.

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Not much of a difference, isn't it? So physiologically, that's how close we are to a chimpanzee. But in terms of our intelligence and awareness, we are worlds apart from a chimpanzee right now.

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Largely the first question started with that. Largely our identities are still biological.

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If you say my race is biology, if you say my family, it's biology, it's largely human identities are still biological.

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When your biological you you're set within a small boundary and when your biological, your instinct of self-preservation is at its highest.

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In your intelligence or in your brain structure, there is something called the reptilian brain, which is approximately the size of your fist here.

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So that is still working like a reptile, fixing boundaries all the time and trying to protect that boundary, which finds expression in so many different ways. But there's another dimension of intelligence, which is the cerebral cortex, which makes you a human being today, which things and struggles with these issues.

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If you were a tiger, you wouldn't care that, you know, God's child is hungry.

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You wouldn't care because after all, it's your food.

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All right. But once you become a human being, you actually don't care.

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But still, one part of you which makes you human makes you struggle. You need to empower that. As a humanity, we need to empower that, that your instinct of self-preservation must go down and the longing to expand, which is always there within us. See, today it is finding expression as ambition, conquest or maybe simply shopping. What is this all about? You want to be something more than what you are right now, isn't it?

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Yes, now the question is, if you become something more today, tomorrow, are you fully settled? No. You want to be something more and something more and something more.

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So you seem to be going toward some kind of a goal in installments. I am asking you right now, how much more will settle you for good?

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But think how much more suppose I make you the queen of this planet, will you be fulfilled? I am asking. Maskin, don't look at me, hopefully I will not commit such a blunder. I will not commit such a blunder.

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But I'm asking you, suppose we put a drone on the North Pole and made you sit there, the queen of the planet.

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Would you be fulfilled? No. You will look at the stars. You look at the galaxies.

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This is the nature of the human being because there is something in this human being that doesn't like boundaries, wants to expand limitlessly.

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But right now the consciousness is constipated. You know, it's constipation that means things happen little by little you want to expand, you want to expand, but you want to do it in small measure, as if you going to live here for a million years.

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So you have to move every human being, all these business students, humans move from your personal ambition to a larger vision.

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Ambition means constipated expression of growth. Vision means seamless expression of growth.

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This must happen to you. How much should you grow? You should not determine this. You must gas yourself fully, make yourself competent and hands your competence. Let's see how far it goes.

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Let us see how far it goes. Why should you fix the limit, because whatever limits and whatever goals you set are just an exaggeration of what little you know today, isn't it?

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So up. Yes or no? Today, what little you know, you are exaggerating it and thinking this is ambition.

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No, this is constipation. I know being in the university now, you passed out, being in the United Nations, you have much knowledge about many things. But all your knowledge, even if you have studied the libraries on this planet, all your knowledge is a minuscule compared to what this cosmic space is, isn't it?

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If you identify with this miniscule knowledge that you have, you will become a miniscule because you're such a miniscule endlessly. You will feel insecure about anything and everything that's happening to you. He lives in Brooklyn, still nobody stabbed him. What are you insecure about? In yoga, we have another system, we call this the intelligence of ignorance.

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We always identify with our ignorance because our knowledge is so small, our ignorance is boundless.

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Yes or no? Well, what we do not know is boundless, isn't it? What we know is so little. So you identify with what you do not know. Then your life will expand rapidly. Your intelligence will stay alert through your life. If you identify with knowledge, your intelligence will sleep on. You will make a fool of yourself with a big degree.

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Yes, it's very important if your human intelligence is on, it is very natural to be inclusive. If your reptilian brain is on, it is very natural to be exclusive, to put up walls.

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So as a human society, as nations, we have put up walls and walls and walls for everything, isn't it? The very dam marketplace is a big wall. It's a Wall Street. All right.

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The markets are controlled so that everybody does not drive there. Certain all markets are controlled, industries controlled, so that everybody does not drive.

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Anyway, you didn't ask me what happened to this food that we grow for eighteen point six billion people. You must find out you're in the U.N. You must find out. All of you must find out why we produce food three times then what we need.

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And still one third of the humanity is starving.

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Why shouldn't your humanity want to find out? Please, you must find out.

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Thank you so much for having this event. My name is Prem, I'm a sophomore studying history. And my question is about this idea of a cosmic or global identity.

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I think it's no secret that many of us here, no matter where we came from before this, we now have a certain level of privilege for being at a place like Columbia. And I think I'm confused as to whether this notion of a global or cosmic identity almost is predicated on a sense of privilege and that certain people in this world don't, as they have the privilege of, like being able to look beyond their most immediate surroundings, whether it's because of discrimination, racism, sexism and so on.

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So how can we as people that maybe do have more privilege, leverage that to make that global identity means something more than just us talking about here?

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This happened in Columbia University. Two young ladies meant one of them said, I will not marry till I turn 30. Another said, well, I'm married, but I will never turn down 30.

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So we must understand.

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The investment in problems that people have made when my business is your problems are my business, I don't want your problems to go away.

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Yesterday, something came up this to where that this came up because yesterday morning I read something terrible happening somewhere in some part of the world.

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People keep sending me, though I am not in the U.N., all the terrible things that happen before it comes to the news media, it comes to me in so many different ways.

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So. You know, I was at the economic forum in Davos and the other big thing going on about Sudan, American celebrities posing with the start of child photographs and everywhere and compassion and stuff, I appreciate the intention. I'm not against it. Everybody has to do it in their own way. I'm not against that.

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But in the same video, they were showing all these militants taking automatic weapons and that everywhere, man, massive large scale rape. And simply, if you are a man, you will die. If you're a woman, you get raped. All right. It's almost like that that southern Sudan was like that some time ago.

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Now it's coming to some kind of sense. So these guys are just shooting dozens of them, simply shooting in the sky.

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So I said, see, these guys are not shooting at somebody. They're shooting in the sky. That means they have limitless supply of armaments. All right.

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You can't take away the guns from them. But the bullets, they seem to have the gun that they're using. I know what they're using. I know what caliber it is. They're just eight companies which are making these bullets armaments. Six of them are in the United States. All you have to do is I'll give you the address, you just lock down this in about six months time and run out of bullets.

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At least they have to hack people. The number of people killed will go down at least once. They don't have bullets, other people will know how to deal with them. So, no, I'm saying when my trouble is your business.

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Will you give it up so as young people who are going into the business world don't think you have to go there as a victim of what is existing right now? I'm not trying to blame everybody.

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This is how we've shaped it. All of us are responsible for this till now. This is how we've done business.

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It is time to change it. And last 20 years, everybody did a lot of commentary on social media.

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Why is it always with corporate leaders, always become corrupt, corrupted, moving with this person, that person? Because I see today, if you want to change the world, not just business world, if you want to change the world, how we do business has to change. It is not the success of military. It is not the success of politics which makes a nation. It is the success of business which makes a nation. So how are we conducting?

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Our business is important. If you don't transform the business leaders, how the hell are you going to change anything?

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When I was the economic forum, somebody important there asked me, Sadhguru, if we have to do one thing for you to transform this world, what is it? I said, just give me 25 people for five days. I will change the world in the next two to three years. They asked for these 25 people. I named the top 25 leaders of the top 25 nations in the world. I said, see, normally with ordinary people, like two and a half days is enough to transform them.

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But these are politicians. So five days I'm just taking insurance. Five days you give them to me.

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If the way they think and feel about everything around them, even if there's a 10 percent change in the way that they are looking at the world, if they become 10 percent a little more inclusive, the world will change dramatically. Believe me, the food that we made for eighteen point six billion people. One thing is we don't have to exploit the planet so badly to feed seven billion people. And on that, one third of them are hungry.

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This can be solved if these 25 people make up their mind. Yes or no.

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Hello.

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So it is very important today. You're sitting here in the university as a student, but tomorrow you are part of a larger company.

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Well, when you join up, you may not be able to decide how to run this company, but don't become a victim and give up.

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This is all the choice you have in India. Always when you say yoga, we always use Lotus Flower as a symbolism. Why Lotus Flower is destroyed.

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Every flower, but particularly with Lotus, is the more stinky the slushies, the more fragrant and beautiful the lotus lotus flower becomes. So we always use this that this is a way Yogi should be. When you see filt, you can become allergic to allergic to it and become an aesthetic if you wish.

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Or when you see felt, you say everywhere filth. Let me also become filth. A lot of people become this or another way. You transform the filth into your flower.

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This choice you have, wherever you are, whatever role you play, you have this choice. You are always a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. This one thing you do, depending upon your competence. Let's see how far you go.

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So, Sadhguru, thank you for being here. What advice would you give someone with healing gifts, someone who can help people create miracles in their lives to grow in service to the world?

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So a medical means like this. Everybody walks on the floor, you walk on the ceiling. Everybody swims in the water, but you walk up on the water. Please don't do these things if you walk upon the water, where the hell will you swim? It's important it's important that you don't do unreasonable things. Because. If you do not recognize the miracle of your existence right now, see, we're sitting here, maybe you're thinking we are sitting in Columbia University, but we are sitting here in this universe.

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We don't know where the god damn thing begins and where it ends. We do not know its nature. And the damn planet is round and it's spinning. And we are sitting here and talking all this. Isn't it a miracle?

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I'm asking hello? Isn't it a miracle? So just pay attention.

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Just tell me one thing that's not a miracle out you. What were they yesterday, soil that you work upon today, the. What were yesterday soil that you walk upon today, the food on your plate. Yes, good. We're good. So isn't this all a miracle?

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Hello? So there is no need for you to do something unreasonable.

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Miracles are just happening everywhere and they're happening everywhere. You are a miracle, isn't it? Just to somebody give you two cents, see how you become.

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Isn't this a miracle? So those who have no eyes for life. They are too engrossed within themselves, they think they will perform miracles, no, what is what is magical for one person? Suppose. Suppose. I pulled out something from my pocket, let's say, 500 years ago and started speaking to somebody in India.

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If I said I am the messenger or the son or himself, would you believe or. Hello, what is one person's magic?

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Is another person's engineering too. This is why we are talking about in engineering where you can live magically, which is very important.

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This is magic, isn't it? Hello. Isn't this life magical? Everything about this.

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But unfortunately, most human beings are not experiencing it.

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Unfortunately, most human beings are muddled with their own logic and stuck in it so badly they do not feel and enjoy the magic of their existence.

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If your perception is not muddled by your memory, that's very important because our entire education system from kindergarten to wherever you go, we are being made to believe memory is intelligence, memory, not intelligence.

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All those who believe memories, intelligence are going to feel like idiots in the next five to 10 years when the artificial intelligence when your little gadget starts doing better than you believe me, my phone can do 10 days in a day.

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Yes, and you finally finding this Google lady a miracle seems more every damn thing, I'm just trying to think of something that she doesn't know, everything that is about information gathering, remembering, keeping it in your memory, analyzing and throwing it out.

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A machine will do better than you in the next few years. You just have to wait to feel like a fool.

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So the significance of being human is just this, that we have a system which just go buy anything. Let's say you ice.

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The visual apparatus started developing, even now, there are certain fish in the oceans where their skin became photosensitive. That means they could sense what is light, what is darkness. That is their level of seeing from there.

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Our eyes have developed to this point on this planet, our eyes, our neurological system, our brains, or the highest level of development that's happened.

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So our experience of life is capable of being magical for all those of you trying to magic by snorting or smoking or something.

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Let me tell you a little magic happens there. Also, I'm not I'm not somebody to look at this as a moral issue.

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It is just that it's destroying the possibilities that only concern. Isn't this the most sophisticated chemical factory on this planet, human mechanism? Hello. Now, the question is only because you're all business guy. The question is only, are you a great CEO or a lousy CEO? That's all.

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If you are a great Seawell, you will get what you want out of this.

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If you're a lousy CEO or you'll get tension, anxiety, misery.

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I got to. Thank you. Thank you for being here. My name is Matt and I'm a first year MBA student. Um, my question is actually also about identity. Um, you've spoken about the need or kind of the benefit of detaching from a biological identity.

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Um, and I'm curious. I think there's a lot of people in the room, and this question kind of came up again and again. If somebody wants to kind of be to act positively in society, there's an instinct to start from that biological community, from the people that you identify with biologically.

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And since you've spoken about that need to detach from that from that identity, where do you suggest like what's the alternative to starting from that biological community?

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And maybe maybe I've understood you the wrong way because I see you shaking your head.

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Oh, see, I did not ever say you should detach yourself from biological identity instead of seeing your mother, father, brothers, sisters and whatever the larger family as your biological identity. Why don't you see that they are the first people that you have access to.

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You can work most effectively only where you have access, access and acceptance, isn't it?

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People always telling me, uh, Sadhguru, you must come and work in Africa. I said, no, I will not work in Africa because if I want to go into Africa, I would like somebody to give me at least five billion dollars before I enter Africa, because without that handholding, you can't make a difference there.

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You cannot you will go there and waste your life. Nothing will happen.

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I work in India because in India, if you give me 10 dollars, I will make it in two thousand dollars in effect, because I have access and acceptance with the people. This is not because of my nationality. I work in India simply because the access and acceptance is so good that if you give me ten dollars, I will make it into a thousand dollars. But if I go to Africa, if you give me 100 dollars, you will become one dollar because there is no access and acceptance, are there?

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And the problem there is of a different nature. It is a completely different nature.

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So where you choose to work is not a question of your nationality or your ethnicity or your family where you have access and acceptance. That's where you must start. Otherwise you'll just waste your time and energy because life is just a combination of time and energy. Isn't it limited amount of time, a limited amount of energy if you run into walls here and there. Time and energy will go and your life will go. It's very important. You run through the door, not to the wall.

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Yes. Where there is openness. There you go. Then you want to turn around and come there. That's a different matter.

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But you must always start work where there is acceptance and access without access. What will you do?

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We'll just beat your head on the wall. And if you have a great idea, if you cannot even sell it to your family, you're not going to sell it to anybody.

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The last thing we're going to close with for youth and truth is what worries you the most about the youth of tomorrow? What worries you the most?

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Oh, I'm not the worrying kind, because this nonsense that every generation is worried about the next generation. I am not that kind.

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The previous generation was worried about me and they didn't know a thing about me. They're just worried about me. I'm not worrying about you. I'm not because.

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I know with all your madness, you'll figure it out, things and things go by. It's being worried about the next generation, always is an ancient malady can see what Socrates said about the next generation. He said they have no respect. They don't stand up when elders come, they're not thinking straight. They are going to ruins. Well, 2000, 3000 years ago, the guy is talking the same thing.

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Time to change that. I'm not worried about you because I see for the first time in the history of humanity, this generation is empowered in ways that nobody had imagined possible.

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Yes, our survival is better organized than ever before.

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And we if we want to change the world, no better time, because I I wanted to recognize this because many great beings have come right from ancient times in every generation had their great.

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But even if they raise their voice and spoke, hardly 25 people heard today.

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If you have something sensible to say, you can say to the whole damn world, do not underestimate that. So one thing you should do as businesspeople and young people is clean up that space a little bit.

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All kinds of idiots are saying things loudly, saying things are not really getting across.

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Yes, because still social media, I feel, will mature probably in the next five, 10 years. People will know how to filter it.

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But there is a concern because the way we are using these technologies against ourselves and against everybody else, when I say against them, many things they are telling me 70 percent of the data is pornography and they are telling me on the Internet.

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Over one point two million children below 15 years of age are being sold for all kinds of things, I think as a society, as human beings, when we start selling our children.

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That means we've hit the bottom.

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What do you think, Halep? We really hit the bottom. Isn't it? So these are things that young people can change. I'm just saying, how many in this campus?

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Five thousand people. If 5000 people meet and you're determined you want to change the language in the direction of what's happening on the Internet, believe me, you can do it. 5000 people. If you get active, just do it. Let's make it happen.