I'm making Tim record during the Indy 500 because there's just no time in the day, Tim. There's no time in the day. What lap are we on, by the way, in the Indy 500?

It hasn't started just yet. I think we're about 23 minutes away from the green flag to start. But yeah, got a little TV monitor here to the side because I'm heading into SportsCenter when the race is over to do some stuff on there, talk about the Indy 500, talk about whoever wins it. So yeah, got to keep an eye on it for sure. Follow it because I follow it because I follow IndieCar as well.

But-and you're hanging out with the legend Jay Onright. Is that what you're doing tonight?

I hope so, yeah. I may be seeing Jay. I mean, it'd be great to see him. I love that guy. He's great, dude. Have you ever sat down and chatted with him before?

I never have had the pleasure. We follow each other on Twitter, and I watch Jay and Dan, I mean, like everybody did every single morning. I loved, loved, loved those guys. So yeah, no, Jay just seems like a A ball of positive energy who's funny all the time.

He's great, man. I love him.

He seems like a great guy.

Fun show, too. Fun show.

Fun show. And you know what? They have great anchors, too. Sarah Davis and Jermaine Franklin and Lindsay Hamilton, and just an awesome, awesome crew there at TSN. I am surprised you're not in your suit, Tim. I thought that you'd set a new standard for us by wearing your suit to the podcast. But fine. Fine. Only Grace is with a black T-shirt this time. I get it.

I'll tell you what happened. Okay, so did the Monaco Grand Prix, did some media stuff afterwards, taped a YouTube hit for TSN. Basically, it's my three takeaways. So it's five to six minutes just straight down the barrel, delivering everything that's on my mind. And then you and I got to do this. And I'm like, Oh, last time I was in a suit, I don't want to grace them with a suit again because it's awkward. Adam's not in a suit. So I'm like, I'm going to lose the suit. No, I like it. Okay, I'm ready. So I'm like, Yeah, get the Riverside ready. But honestly, I was in the back room taking all my stuff off, throwing this on running down the hallway.

So that's what you were doing. I'm like, Does Riverside take that long to get set up? Okay. All right. All right. So listen, we had... Tim and I, if you haven't caught it, you can go back and rewatch the Monaco Grand Prix qualifying and line it up with us. That was fun. If you want to. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed that. Thanks to everybody that tuned into it. But what it did was basically determine the order, very much, especially if you got into Q3. If you got into Q3, The way the race started is the way the race ended. And that had a lot to do with Kevin Magnuson on lap one. And I think that's the best place to start because obviously we did have Carlos Sines and Lando Norris making a a little bit of contact. Carlos had a puncture that would have put him at the back of the pack, were it not for what Kevin Magnuson and Sergio Perez, and by virtue of the fact that he just happened to be there, Nico Halkenberg ran into. And so we'll get back to the signs Norris thing in a second. But I think We start with Kevin Magnuson and Sergio Perez.

Tim, I looked at the quotes after the race. Kevin thinks it's Sergio's fault. Sergio for sure thinks it's Kevin's fault. As a race driver, how do you look at I would put it on Magnuson.

Look, and I'm not putting it on Kevin because he's not a good driver or anything like that. I think he's a very good driver. There's a reason he's in Formula One. I think, though, it was a little opportunistic on his account. If you look at just how much space there was for him to put his car there, I mean, even if there was a gap, right? That gap is still not big enough and wide enough for these cars. These cars are way too big, and that's not a passing area, Adam. I mean, even on the opening lap, when the surface is not as dirty, there's not as many marbles offline. It's still not really a place you can go to pass. And so I think from Sergio's point of view, being the car ahead, you're not really too, too concerned unless the driver Is the car is literally up right alongside you, or is the front axial the same as the front axial of the car trying to pass you? And that's the way I look at it, because it is from the replay where the front axial is not fully ahead of the mid frame of the race car.

So Sergio is not really going to know just how far away Kevin is. He's going to know that he's thereabouts, but he He doesn't know exactly where. So if Sergio is creeping over, which I would have done to make him think twice about it, he still put his car there, and that's how you get the collision. And then it's like everybody's pointing fingers at each other.

Right. And I'm going to- Yeah. Go ahead.

No, it's basically like, I do put that on Magnuson for sure. Even hearing Hulkenberg's team radio after the collision. He even sounds like, Hey, what was Kevin doing there? Even though he doesn't say the individual's name. So I think this is a driver that's obviously fighting to stay in Formula One. I mean, there is no confirmation of whether or not Magnuson will be back at Haas for next year. His contract is up at the end of this season. Hulkenberg is already on his way, Adam, to Sauber. And so for Ayo Kamatzo, he also now has this decision of replacing Nico Hulkenberg and trying to understand and think about what he should be doing with Kevin Magnuson.

Well, and so I'm going to read you a little bit of Christian Horder's Instagram post here. In the second paragraph, he says, more importantly, because he was talking about Max for stopping finishing sixth, Perez walked away from a scary-looking accident on the first lap, leaving much of his Rb20 in pieces on the run up the hill. The field has definitely converged at the top, and now we will have to work hard to take all the lessons from this weekend and respond in Canada in a few weeks time. And the picture was of Sergio Perez, his car, and then the last one was of Max's car on the track. And what I find interesting about that is when you see a Christian Horner Instagram post and Max Verstoppen is not the lead picture, it's very, very rare. And I think that's Christian's way of sending a message without sending a message, because probably he can't say what he wants to say about that, which is we got screwed there.

I think Christian expected there to be a penalty, at least issued or levied or an investigation done into Kevin Magnuson. I mean, we do understand that he's sitting on about 10 penalty points now on his license, if I'm not mistaken. And two more would be a race suspension. Now, I still am curious as to why there wasn't a penalty handed out, because there are instances, Adam, where there's been drivers in similar situations this season, albeit it hasn't led to big accidents that have gotten penalties for being in similar positions, racing incidents, etc. So I'm thinking about Alonso in science in China. Why we need consistency. That's the thing I always keep saying is consistency.

Yeah. Well, and you look at Sergio Perez's car, and listen, you can't judge a penalty on necessarily the damage that it does to a car because it really is the action that you're penalizing. But there was one wheel attached. There was nothing left. And Tim, I look at switching gears here a little bit to Esteban O'Klan and Pierre Gasly. You look at the penalty O'Kon got. That's a five-place grid penalty for Canada for the next race. And that's a massive, massive hit to a team that really doesn't have any pace and had two cars in the top 10 going into this race. Sorry, not in the top 10, but they had a car going in. They could have made something of this race. Sorry, excuse me. They were not both in the top 10.

We had Gasly O'Kahn was 1011.

Ten 11, yeah. So I want to understand what happened with O'Kahn, too, because you see them come out of the S-curve down into the tunnel. Gasly is where he should be. And all of a sudden, it's almost like O'Kahn dive bombs him, and it's a red flag. No one's racing at this point. What happened there?

An aggressive move right from Esteban, Adam. But why? What's the position, man? He's racing right now.

There's Were they not under red? Am I wrong?

At the point when they were racing, I don't think the red flag had been thrown out. I don't even actually think there was a full course caution at that moment. I would have to go back and take a quick look at that. I cannot confirm whether or not there was a full course caution and/or red flag in that moment. Let's just say there wasn't, for now, aggressive move. Aggressive move from Ocon. Should he have made it? I mean, it's close. I probably would have done it. I would have tried to move there. You could pull off a pass if you had enough racing room. So both drivers gave each other enough room. What's stopping Pierre Gasly from... I'll play devil's advocate here. What's stopping Pierre Gasly from pulling out of the throttle, giving up the spot, and then attacking him the tunnel, right? So instead of sticking with it and eventually having contact.

Well, I guess because Gasly didn't see him. I don't think.

But like, man, he was already O'Kahn was already ahead. They clipped wheels. He had clipped the rear wheel. Gasly had clipped O'Khan's rear wheel, which sent him up into the air. So he was already ahead. O'khan had already essentially pulled the move off. I think it was on Pierre to back down.

And then- And when you see the freeze frame of it from Pierre's car, all you can see is the underside, the floor of O'Kahn's car. Bruno Faman did say, and he's the Alpine team principal, there will be consequences. We're going to make a tough decision. What do you think he means by that?

Again, I wish I knew because when Both drivers are in a contract season, and it's not confirmed whether or not Gasly will be back at the team. It's not confirmed whether or not Ocon will be back at the team. So both of these drivers, obviously, fighting for their seats on the grid, wherever wherever that may be. Now, my thing is he's probably upset. This is just my thoughts, but he's probably upset at him. There must have been some agreement between the drivers pre-race that was, you guys can't fight each other, or you can't battle against each other, or something along those natures where if you have to engage with your teammate, you have to know for a fact that you can pull it off. Now, you see Maybe that Esteban O'Khan puts out a tweet, and he puts out a post on social media that he took full responsibility for everything. So if he's taking full responsibility for everything, then that just speaks to me that, okay, well, They must have had some an agreement. Because at some point, Adam, I think both drivers would have been in contention for some points.

Yes. Yeah. Even if you just look at If you just look at, let's say, there was just a red flag, I still feel that both of those guys could have potentially been ninth, 10th on the grid finishing.

That's what I think anyways.

Yeah. And I'm looking at their points are not great. Gasly's got one. O'khan has one. The team has two total as a constructor. It's It's not been great this year for them. And I think the... Is that potentially what Bruno Fanment is talking about? It's like, listen, we could have had two cars. We could have doubled up here today. What were you thinking?

For sure. Yeah.

That's rough. It's a tough conversation.

Yeah, 100 %. And you could see on the race, the replays and stuff, and they were showing video footage from and all that stuff. And you could see Esteban was down in front of the garage. This is during that red flag period. I believe they wheeled his car back into the garage, and then someone comes down. It looks like they have a quick word with him, and then he's got to go upstairs to where team principal and the engineers are. I'm sure in that moment, it was a pretty heated conversation.

Interesting, too, that he didn't mention specifically Gasly. Well, as in when he said, I apologize to the team, but he didn't apologize to Gasly. I guess Gasly is part of the team, but there is that thing there between the two of them. They just do not like each other, right?

Yeah, that's a really good point. They do have a past. Dates all the way back to go karting. I do remember when they first became teammates, they were just like, Oh, yeah, we're past that. We're cordial now. We can get along, et cetera, et cetera. I think it was Australia last year. I think it was Gasly ran into Ocon took them both out of that race, and they've had some issues. But again, nothing has really blown up on them. We'll see when we get to Canada what they say. I to have some questions for both drivers, in particular Ocon. See what they have to say because we didn't really... Esteban didn't 100% address everything.

No, he didn't.

So I think there's still a lot more there.

Okay. Now, looking at the top right now, and I'm going to run you through the The drivers and the teams. Okay, so we'll start with the teams. Red Bull Racing, 275 points. Ferrari, 252 points. Mclaren, 184 points. Okay. Now, Max Verstoppen, 169 points. Charles Leclerc, 138 points. Lando Norris, 113 points. And Carlos is right behind him as is Sergio behind him. Carlos with 108, Sergio with 107. That is, Tim, a three-way battle for the Constructors' Championship. And do we have a driver's battle as well? Is that what we're getting here?

That's exactly what we got, Adam. Let's go.

Finally. Finally. And you know what? It was great to see Charles Leclerc win. He's the first driver in 93 years to do it. They told that story at the end of race that he had lied to his dad when his dad was, I think his father was passing away and said, I got a contract in Formula One, but he didn't. And he goes in and he wins Monaco. 17 years old. Amazing. No, 2017.

Sorry, 2017. Sorry, 2017.

Excuse me. But You look at, Charles, the road it took to be here. He had DNFs in a Formula 2, a couple of Alpha Romeo ones that did not start, even though he got pole position a couple of years ago. This was a A long time coming for a guy who desperately, desperately wanted to win at home. What do you think that does to a driver's confidence, winning at home and winning the race to win?

Huge. It's huge, man. I always say this, but Adam, for a driver to win their home Grand Prix, it's as close as it could get to winning a championship. It's a huge part of your CV. It's a huge part of of you as a person. It's massive, man. It's right up there with winning a driver's title. I think for Leclerc, it's just funny listening to a lot of his post-race stuff, and he was already starting to tear up with two laps left to go. He's coming out of the tunnel, and he's starting to get all misty-eyed. And he's like, Okay, I got to keep my stuff together here and get this thing to cross the finish line, or else, I'm definitely going to be crying, deal. It's great to see. Great story. We talked about this Thursday's pod. We talked about it again during our watch-along. I was going to freak out if Charles Leclerc won. And man, I was. It was awesome. I'm super happy for that guy. That is an incredible story. It's an incredible accomplishment. I mean, yeah. What did you think when you saw him win?

It's great story. I loved Oscar Piastri's tweet because there was some tweet about how Leclerc was going to adopt him. And he wrote, great weekend for the Leclerc family, referring to himself as well. And then Nicole Piastri, his mom, tweeted, I'm really happy about my voice because she decided she was going to adopt Yuki Sonoda. So just very, very funny Twitter interactions. And watching that happen, I think Formula One really is about the stories. And I know that today's race was, by all accounts, pretty stationary. I saw a stat online, Tim, that there were more cut aways to the driver's girlfriends than there were overtakes in the race. There were seven shots of girlfriends, five overtakes in the race.

Who keeps track of that?

It's just... But we know that with Monaco. But I think sometimes in Formula One, what's important are the stories. And this is, how do you not love This is a story. This is a guy that grew up on these streets. He wanted to win this for his entire life, and he came and he did it. I think that's amazing. Monaco is not a big place. Monte Carlo is not a big place. So to have a driver in Formula One is pretty rare and very cool. And I think the fans, obviously, let him hear it, and it cements him as, I think, a legend. I think there was a Charles Leclerc pre-Monaco, and I think there's a Charlotte, Claire, post Monaco. I wonder if the rest of the grid better watch out because this guy, I don't know, he seems to have that under his belt. If I were him, I would just be flying in terms of confidence going into Canada.

For sure. He probably is, Adam. I think for him, it's nice to get a win. It's been a long time coming for him just getting an F1 win again. Carlos Sainz has been the one who's been doing the heavy lifting in the winning department for Ferrari over the last year and a half here. So I mean, for Charles Leclerc to really bag one in a special way, in a big way, that's definitely going to boost his confidence 100 %. He's going to come into Canada flying high and ready to bag another one. I think he had an interesting weekend, where in the fact that free practice one, the team was strong right away, right out of the gates, team is strong. And you look at Carlos' side of the garage, it's a little more up and down. Carlos wasn't feeling too confident with the car. They went in a direction, was set up. It didn't really work for pre-practice 2. They reverted back to an older set up for pre-practice 3. Still not 100 % happy with the car, but manages to bring it home onto the podium and capture some points. But then you just look at Leclerc, and he just dominated every single session, dominated the race, led every lap.

He was masterful. And then add on top of all of that, all the off track obligations, right? Like the media, the marketing, the partnerships. He was out late on Saturday night doing sponsorship engagements, had to get up early for the race, obviously, and get ready for it. He broke his diet. He had to go get a pizza in the middle of the night because he hadn't eaten. He didn't have time to cook. So he went out, got himself slice, and he hustled back home and threw himself into bed. It's how busy this guy was and still able to focus on top of all of that. So really impressive all around from him, I think, Adam, Charlotte Farran this weekend.

Watching him and Fred Vasseur jump into the Harbor in Monaco, too, was pretty cool. Love that.

Just to confirm, Adam, there wasn't a yellow or a red flag during the incident of Ocon Gasly when O'Khan went to pass him.

It must have been just a split second before then.

Actually, as soon as O'Khan lands, so he's up in the air and then he comes down, if you look into the tunnel, the safety light that's on the walls flashing green. So they still hadn't thrown a full course caution, nor was there a red flag, even at that moment when O'Kahn was in the air and then landed.

Wow. Well, listen, I mean, it honestly would have been a second later because the crash was happening at that time. That's crazy how much happened in that first little split second. And because of that, and this is where we get to Charlotte Claire's teammate Carlos signs, Forgive me because I've never experienced this rule before. If the grid is not all the way through the first sector, and that's top to tail, they restart as the order that they started from qualifying, correct? Yeah, correct. And And so Andrea Stella was saying, because obviously it would have benefited McLaren for signs to be at the back, Andrea Stella was saying the FIA came awful close to ruling in favor of leaving the order as it was after the first corners. But ultimately came to the decision that they were going to restart one Ferrari, two McLaren, three Ferrari, four McLaren.

No, it's actually a conversation that I think the teams and And drivers should have, and also the FIA, obviously. I think it is a conversation they should all have because it really, if you think about it, it doesn't make a ton of sense. No. And you're technically taking a driver who was essentially out of the race, like dead last. And now all of a sudden, you're giving them back their position. And I don't necessarily agree with that. No. I think it happens. And so If it's already happened, then why are you essentially reverting back to an older order? You've already lost... How many cars did they lose off the beginning? Essentially, they lost four cars in total because Ocon didn't take the restart out of the opening laps. I feel that science should have been at the back. I definitely think it's a rule they need to check out. They need to take a look at I think.

Well, and yeah, I felt that it's an odd rule to have. I don't totally understand the benefit of it. But regardless, that's what happened.

Even also, Adam, in that instance, the pit stop, right? Coming in, changing your tires, and then jumping onto a different type of compound that signals that you have completed a stop within the Grand Prix, I think that needs to be revisited as well, because technically, it's not really a pit stop.

No. And that led to no passing.

Yeah, exactly. And it would have spiced the race up a tiny bit if we didn't have that rule.

Right. I agree. And a mandatory... Listen, you should be able to change your tires, but you should have to take another mandatory stop somewhere throughout the race, right?

I agree. I think so, too, Adam. And Then also, if we want to talk about Monaco and things that they may be able to do to help spice things up. It's really hard, Adam. You and I have talked about just how big these cars are, and they're just getting too big for a track like Monaco. Now, whether or not they revisit that for 2026 and they change the wheelbase remains to be seen because we just don't know yet what those regulations will look like. But they're going to be going back there in 2025. If you're going back there next year, it's like, Okay, well, what else can you do? You can't tear down buildings. I think the walls are pretty much pushed to their maximum in terms of depth everywhere. The track is pretty much homologated where it's at, so safety structure. So what do you do? I was speaking with a friend about this, and they were suggesting, Hey, why don't they just run all the tire compounds from C1 to C8? Hey, that's actually a really good idea.

Not bad at all.

Yeah. It would really throw a wrench into all of the strategies, Adam. I think so.

Yeah, I think so, too. With the weather, sometimes at Monaco, that can make a ton of sense, right? Because a lot of the time there is rain. Tim, because you can't make the crap. They've made the cars bigger because you got to go back through, I think, a little bit of the They've made the cars bigger so that they're safer. That is the whole point.

The other part of it, obviously, is the engine, the power unit, the battery. Those things have also gotten bigger, heavier as well. But yeah, some of it is safety reasons as well. Tires and that thing, those technically are not, but they did it anyways. But I'm a fan of that. I like the big tires. I just think the wheelbase needs to be brought in a little bit.

Okay. All right. I love that there is a DRS zone at Monaco, as if that matters. What are we doing here? Okay, sure. I also want to mention that it is possible that Monaco isn't there forever. There was an idea floated years ago about Spa and Monaco and some of these other races coming in on a rotation once every few years. Now, it would feel like you'd have a rotating race structure. So this is one of your rotators. So this year, the race goes to Belgium. This other year, it goes to Imala. This year, it goes to Monaco. It would feel wrong not to do a race in Monaco every year, but it is becoming outrageously expensive for Monaco to buy the races and bring them in.

Yes. I think Monaco's contract runs out at the end of 2025, if I'm not mistaken. So then you can probably for 2026, revisit, revisit whether or not you want it as a race, it comes in or out. It's so difficult because of, again, size of the cars. Where else can they put the track? Where else can they put it so it's a little more So it's opened up a bit more. I've never been to Monaco, so I don't know the area. I don't know how it's presented, so I couldn't say. I think F1 and the FIA, they do their due diligence with these things. So if they can't already find a way of making this track a little bit bigger, making it work, then yeah, maybe it is something they take a look at in the future. Is it a rotating race? Is it on the schedule one year, off of it for the next But as a driver, tackling that track has got to be an amazing achievement in qualifying. That has to be like bucket list stuff. And that has to be one of those goals as a driver that it's like, I tackled Monaco, and I got everything out of the car.

I got the car as high as it could possibly go. And so when you retire, it's like, I did my best there. And I did everything I could within my power. And so that's a huge accomplishment for a driver to tackle that racetrack. And then also on top of all that, even in the race, Adam, doing 90 minutes around there is That is a feat in concentration, in the physicality of it as well. It's very impressive what the drivers are doing out there. So for us to sit at home and sit on our couches and watch and not be entertained, trust me, as the driver, they are entertained.

Well, Max was saying he was bored, but I think that's just Max being Max, right?

Max being Max for sure. His eyes are probably this wide for the entire lap. Come on. One small little tiny mistake out of him, and you rip the whole front-end off your car.

Now, Tim, I hate to bring this up. But wow, McLaren with another 2.4 finish.

What do you mean you hate? You'd love to hear it.

I hate bringing this up, but Qualifying looked good and raced. They managed themselves very, very well. What do you say about McLaren here, Tim?

They're awesome, man. They've been kicking ass and taking names ever since Miami, dude. They're doing great. I can't wait to see what they're like in Canada. I think they're going to be amazing. They have 184 points in the constructor's standings right now. Red Bull's got 276. They're closing down the gap like we had explained. There's definitely going to be a constructor's battle here. There just is or already is. Okay, let's just deal with it. I am just so blown away at what McLaren has been able to do in the short amount of time given where they started at the beginning of the season and where they are now. It's been extremely impressive at them to see how far they come. They started with a great baseline, even though it wasn't as competitive as a lot of the cars in front of them. And now in Miami, one big upgrade and boom, their drivers are now pushing for race victories. And mark my words, Oscar Piastri is going to win a Grand Prix this year.

Wow. Okay, what makes you say that, Tim?

That guy is so hungry. So hungry, Adam. Qualifying P2, Monaco. You could just see it. He's nails, man. He's tough. He's a tough little driver. He's aggressive. I love how he races. He was aggressive with Carlos off the opening lap heading into turn one. He didn't back down. I love that. He wants it, man. Even though he's not saying it, you can see it in his driving. He's calm, cool, collected. He's got it up here, keeps his stuff together, man. And he's going to get a win this year. Okay.

And let me ask you this, if you're Zack Brown tonight, and there's some partying going on in Monaco right now. Right now, they're having a real good time.

There's something going on right now out of in Monaco.

Tim, tell me, if you're Zack Brown, are you allowing yourself to think, maybe we could do this? Because I know Fred Vasseur, obviously very focused, but he knows they can beat Red Bull. He knows it's possible now.

I think so. I mean, Zack, obviously in Indy right now for the 500. But yeah, I definitely think the teams aren't really saying it. The teams that are currently pushing Red Bull, they're not sitting there saying that they're going to beat Red Bull. But when we look at this thing on paper and seeing what both teams have done over the last two races, you have to consider the fact that this is going to happen. It's going to be tied up at the top, and Red Bull is going to be pushed for that constructor's title, no question, considering that Sergio, he had a really rough couple of races. He had a rough weekend in Monaco. We'll see what happens with him in Canada, but you need him scoring points, too, if you want to at least have a chance at fending off Ferrari and McLaren.

Right, especially in that constructors. Boy, Tim, very exciting. Now, weirdly, George Russell had a very conservative race, and you sent me a link on here, The Race, the media outlet said, This is a Christian Horner quote, I didn't really understand Mercedes's race today. It was a hugely conservative race by George. To give up so much time and then go so fast at the end of the race didn't really make a lot of sense. I don't think they were going to overtake anybody, but it was very defeatist trying to defend the fifth. What did you think about that?

Well, I think what did George do? George did what? 77 laps on a set of tires? Really impressive, by the way, first of all. I think there was a moment where George probably could have maybe gone after Lando. And then outside of all that, I think there was a moment as well for Lando to have pitted and gone after Carlos, and potentially Oscar, because we saw the new tire compound, when you threw on fresh rubber, just with that offered, like Valtory Botas, Lance as well. There was, I mean, Logan. And you could see that there was quite a bit of potential for some performance. It's trying to get the past done, right, Adam? It's just like, where do you just basically concede that this is going to be a track position type of a race, or do you think it's going to be fresher tires and get a chance? It was a bit of a toss up throughout the race, too, so I can understand why it's hard to make that decision. But Mercedes must have felt that this was a track position race, and that's what it was going to be. And it was up to George just not to make any mistakes and not throw it into the wall, not throw it away, keep Max off of him and all that stuff, because both Max and Louis were coming, right?

Even though Louis was trying to get the undercut on Verstappen, I think for the team, when they sent Louis back out after he'd done the pit stop, the team had him on an incorrect pushing level. So it must have been an incorrect engine mode that they had sent Louis back out and didn't basically have the pace to get that undercut done because they didn't have him in the proper mode that he needed to be in because he probably didn't even know that that's what they were pushing for. So that's a pretty big mistake on Mercedes's fault. But again, they get the fastest lap, which is a point. But you're trying to get that undercut done. It's really difficult, man. It's a tough weekend for Mercedes when at the beginning, you and I were just talking like, Hey, Lewis could maybe potentially on the podium here. He looks that strong. And then he's in the mid, not the mid-pack, but he's in the points, but he's 8, 9, 7, 8, 9. And it's like, you know. Yeah.

And another team that had a bit of a tough weekend was Aston Martin. Fernando had a really disaster qualifying. Loved Lance's qualifying, but obviously, just not a great weekend for them. I don't know how much they can take away from it. What do you think they do to prepare for a better Canada?

Oh, man. It's going to be tough, man. I think Canada might be a difficult weekend for the team. The car doesn't look like it handles curbing quite well. That's going to be an issue because obviously for Canada, you need to use the curbs. You need to launch the car over the curves like Imala, like Monaco as well, where you also need to use the curves. Your car needs to be really compliant over the bumps that are there. For Canada, it's not going to be as bumpy. They've resurface it. But I think it could be a difficult weekend, Adam, and I don't know if they have any solutions for that thing for the next couple of races. They may not have a big solution for it. Oh, boy. I don't know, man. Maybe Austria, maybe.

That's tough. It's tough to hear that.

Yeah, it is, man, because they put so much and effort and resources into this season. I think obviously not having your own wind tunnel operational just yet. Their wind tunnel will be operational a little bit later on this year. But you're sharing wind tunnel time with Mercedes. You're having to try and divvy that up. You don't have your own thing. You got to ship all your stuff. And we've talked about this on this show, about shipping your components for the wind tunnel and booking time in a wind tunnel. It's not yours and trying to navigate that situation is really tough because it sets you back in your development. And this is what's going on with Aston Martin, too. They're starting to feel that pain as well. So that's difficult for the team because Canadian-owned team, Canadian driver. Love to see them do well.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Yuki Sonoda's race was pretty good. Alex Albon scores William's first points. How key do you think Alex Albon's race was today for William's efforts? Because it's just been a disaster first leg of the season for them.

Alex Albon is absolutely awesome. It was great. He's been great. He was awesome this weekend, right? Had all the components. Logan didn't, so I have to say that. Logan doesn't have the same race car as Alex did. But Alex was absolutely incredible. He was brilliant. That's huge for Williams. Huge. It gives them so much more confidence coming into Canada. And for them, now they need to really start working on that, That development race, that development war, having all the crashes, trying to build that third chassis just sets you back. So for them, this is a great weekend for Williams, I think.

Well, I'm excited to see what they do. I'm a big James Valls guy. The more I find out about the guy, the more I like him. I was really encouraged by their season last year, Tim, and for them to start with as many hiccups as they have, it's been a surprise. However, they're a development team, and it's going take some time, but really encouraged by that. And I hope that they're able to get the pieces for Logan Sargent for Canada, too, because you've been mentioning that his times have been improving, and you just haven't seen it in the results yet. And I would hate to see a guy who has it not get it in time for his next contract. You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure. I definitely hear what you're saying. I think part of it also, too, What I do is that, look, I get that Alex is your number one driver. He has to be for sure. And so I understand the fact that you need to prioritize Alex for new components And so when Alex has his crashes towards the beginning of the season, you have to pick and choose who's going to get those parts. I mean, and then obviously you have to give them to Alex. So it sucks for Logan because, again, He's giving up his seating Australia. So that's seat time he's losing out on. And he's not getting all the new components because of that third chassis having to be rebuilt. And then the damage that they incurred again in Japan, all that having to be rebuilt. And so, again, they only have so much for new components. So where do they go? They got to go to Alex because he's your number one driver. And so then for Logan, he gets left behind. And then if you're James Valls and you're putting pressure on him, oh, look, you got to do better. You got to do this.

You got to do this. Well, give him the same car.

Yeah.

And let's go. I mean, it's something similar happened to Nicolas. Nicholas, back in, what was it? 2022, I believe it was. I mean, he didn't get the full car. Alex got the full car. They had a full upgrade. Alex got it first, and then Nicolas didn't get it for a while after. And it was just like, why? If you just do it for both all at once, because at that point, if it's not ready to go, then what are you doing?

Is it that hard to do?

I mean, for them, it sounds like it because of the infrastructure. Because it doesn't sound like they just don't have that infrastructure to pump out all of these components that all the other bigger teams can. We've seen How many people work at Mercedes? They have a huge, huge facility. Same goes with Ferrari. They're massive. I mean, I've been to McLaren's. It's massive. I've been to Aston Martin's. They're brand new ones, state of the art one that they just built. I was at that one last year. Again, it's huge. I've been at Williams, and I've seen the level to which they have to get to internally. And that's a lot of work because you're having to reinvest so much of your capital expenditure in it to try and bring in new equipment so you can help churn out new parts and bump up your CFD design. Same with your wind tunnel and simulator as well. So they have a lot They got a lot going on there, Adam. They got a lot of stuff to do.

Yeah. Wow. I mean, the fact that they're able to put together a car at all is great. Yeah, for sure, man.

Sometimes, right? Yeah. I mean, heading into... What was it? Heading into Japan. Remember, we were Are they even going to get two cars on the grid for you?

Exactly. It came close. Now, Tim, you've got the Canadian Grand Prix to prepare for in the next couple of weeks. Run me through your schedule before we go here about what you got going on this week. I know you're rammed. What's happening?

Oh, man. It's my favorite saying. It's like drinking through a fire hose, and I absolutely love it.

Yeah? So we got- You're doing interviews?

Yeah, we got Monday. So we're taping this on Sunday. Monday, we're in sports Center. We're in TSN. We got a bunch of content coming out. I got a bunch of hits. We got a pre-tape. So going to do that on Monday, Tuesday. I think Wednesday, Thursday, I'll have a little bit more to do. But then Friday, Saturday, this week coming up, I'll have that off. Monday, got to pack. Tuesday, fly out to Montreal. And then as soon as you hit the ground in Montreal on the Tuesday, you're basically flat out. You can feel the It's funny, man. I absolutely love this week, that Canadian Grand Prix week. I love it. It's so much fun. But when it's finished, I just feel like my brain was thrown into a blender. I'm just like, What just happened? For three days, I'm trying to piece together the whole week of just everything that you do. It's absolutely awesome. I love it. I'm really looking forward to it, Adam. It's going to be a hell of a ride.

Your next two weeks are going to be spectacular, my friend. And so we'll catch up with Tim whenever we can. It's going to be difficult to do.

No, we're going to be doing podcast, buddy. We're not going to shy away from doing podcast.

Beautiful. Well, I'm looking forward to it, Tim. Listen, get some rest because it all kicks off tomorrow for you.

It's exciting, Adam. I can't wait. What do you got going on?

This week? Oh, man. Yeah.

Listen, you're doing streams everywhere. I was watching you on my TV last night. My girlfriend's asking me what Gripper Nation is. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I got to explain her what that is.

Yeah. So I'm doing the Edmonton and the Edmonton Dallas Streams, and I'm doing the Monday, Wednesday, Friday this week. And What's interesting there is obviously in between, Steve is obviously doing the Florida, New York series. When Steve does that, I go on and do NHL Network, and so does Jessie. Jessie will go on and do NHL Network as well. That's awesome. We jump on and we want to get out in front of as many people as we can and introduce people to us and the network. Then this week as well, my mom is going to win a, or is winning, has won a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Canadian I have to give a speech to her.

Congratulations to Adam's mom.

Yeah, that's right, to introduce her. Then I got to rewrite the forward to Steve Dangle's novel, not novel, book that's coming out in October. Because they always give you a little piece here and there. Oh, you need to tweak this, tweak that, whatever. But the greatest thing ever that you hear from an editor is great paragraph. I got a couple of those and I was like, Yeah, got a great paragraph out of it. It's like going back to school. I'm literally going home tonight to write a speech and finish that forward and try on my suit, which I haven't worn in at least a year and a half. There's no reason to wear a suit right now for me. We'll see how is it.

It's always a scary time, Adam, trying on a suit when you haven't been in it in a year and a half. Trust me, I know.

I'm not looking forward to it, Tim. Let me tell you what happens, okay?

If it doesn't work. In my line of work, sometimes, Adam, it doesn't work. You have to go down to Mark's Work warehouse, and you can rent or you can purchase.

That's what I'll do.

It's usually sometimes what I have had to do in the past because old father time and my waistline haven't been too friendly to me.

Yes, same here, buddy. Things we got to do.

Things we got to do as a age.

Same here. Thank you for the heads up on that. That's good to know.

That's what I'm here for, man. Useless information.

So, Tim, have yourself a great week. We'll catch up a little bit later this week, okay?

Yeah, it sounds good, buddy. Thanks. It's been fun, like always.