And we start with McLaren, second week in a row that we're dealing with drama with McLaren. Last time, we're talking about them blowing what should have been a win, right? This time, they get a one, two. They get a maximum amount of points, except they didn't because George Russell got the fastest lap. So that's not the maximum amount of points. It's just one shy of it, though. So pretty damn good. They seem to be on a plan, Tim. And for anybody that didn't fully catch the race, undercut was enormous here. If you pitted first, you got an enormous advantage. They had one, two with Piastri. Norris Piastri was well up ahead. Norris pits first, even though we all thought it would be Piastri that would pit first, and Norris would protect the lead. They put Norris there ostensibly to hold off Lewis Hamilton and potentially Max Verstoppen, and then allow Oscar to jump in. But what happened was Norris got the jump because of the undercut, and Oscar came out and was within about three and a half of Norris and actually got pretty close to him and then hit a bit of gravel on, I think it was turn 11, and never quite caught up to Norris after that.

And the team said multiple times, and this is what's crazy about the call, They were talking to Lando at the end, around lap 65. Think about all the Sunday morning meetings. Think about all the times that this guy has helped you. Are you really not going to give that place back? Tim, what was What was the plan here and how was it not executed?

Well, hearing from Andrea Stella, it really sounds like a big part of it was protecting against Hamilton in the undercut, but also not putting a ton of pressure on the crew, the team, to make sure that when Piastri was coming in from the lead, that there was a lot of pressure on the crew to make sure that they maintained that lead, didn't mess up pit stops, et cetera. By using Lando first, getting everybody in the routine. I think Andrea Stella may Could be possibly protecting the team a little bit on that one. Still quite strange. They ended up undercutting their own driver. It doesn't make a lot of sense. You put yourself in a really difficult position by doing that. Obviously, I think it was a mistake. Look, when any driver is in the lead, you always prioritize that driver. Over the second-place driver, Look, if they're running four and five, you still prioritize the driver that's in front. If you're running 19th and 20th, you prioritize the 19th driver. You always prioritize the lead driver. You have to maintain track position, and you have to make sure that you're not fighting with your own team for points and victories, and who's getting a point, who's not getting a point, because you put yourself in a really difficult position by doing that, where these are aggressive racing drivers.

They're going to battle for whatever is left out on the racetrack. Playing the team game is not necessarily It's priority number one. For McLaren, their mentality is team first. The drivers always need to maintain that mentality of team first. It's really hard to get a racing driver to do that. It's a selfish sport in that way, where as a driver, you always have to be giving your best performances, finishing in the best positions that you can get, because you're only as good as your last race. And team principals, other teams, they're not going to remember what happened in spa 2022 when you gave up second place for your team mate, even though you were in second place. No one's going to remember that. Aside from the fans, obviously, and us. For McLaren, that's a big thing for them, making sure that it's team first, always a team first mentality. When they're saying, remember all the Sunday mornings, our conversations, part of those conversations are whoever gets the lead, maintains the lead, even if that means you have to give up position to that person. These are all agreements that are put in place before the race starts.

That's why they have these meetings. And who agrees on it? If the drivers come to an agreement fact that they sit down and tell the drivers that. It lets everybody know where they are. It lets you all know that you're all on the same page and you're all working together. Because what ends up happening, if Lando Norris goes on to win this race, I don't know how much trust would be left with either Lando, with the team in Lando, with Oscar in Lando, the trust between those two drivers. I don't know if that exists if Lando doesn't give that up.

Yeah. And I think Lando ultimately bowed to that. What do you think he was trying to prove by pushing so far ahead?

That he was a faster driver. You want to show the... Hey, look, I'm a faster driver. Don't make me do this. But as a driver, it's a race victory. You're adding that to your resume.

And he's only got one.

Well, I mean, that's the thing, Adam. Also on top of all that, too. It's been a frustrating season for him. He should have more. He really should. And that team should have more. Mclaren should have a lot more victories this season. There are some that were really thrown away on strategy. There are some that were thrown away because of driving. And that's got to be a frustrating thing for Lando because he's thinking big picture. He thinks he can win this Championship. I think he can win this Championship, too, to be perfectly honest with you, if things go the right way. But at the end of the season, if you get to Abu Dhabi and that race finishes and you're left with a 6, 7 point gap, we're going to reference this race.

We are.

We're going to reference this race. It's going to be a talking point from here on out if this thing gets even closer, which it probably will. So for Lando Adam, that's his mentality. That's what he's thinking. He's thinking, Championship. He's thinking, bigger picture. He's thinking, catching Max Verstappen for that Championship victory. And McLaren is thinking about constructors, the team, how finishing as high up in constructors as they can, making sure they get that money, all of it. They're thinking all of those things. They're not necessarily thinking drivers. I think next year, they're going to be thinking drivers 100 %. Adam, we'll talk about Max in a bit here, but I agree with Lando on that front where you got to think about that driver's championship. You do. So it's a tough spot. But then again, you can't break the trust between the two drivers because they're going to need him. They're going to need Oscar. Lando is going to need Oscar. Oscar is going to need Lando at some point. They're just going to need each other. And Oscar really is like, Kimmy's not understated. He's just cold. Whereas Oscar is literally It's literally understated. If you notice in the post-race interview, he has a thing where when he's uncomfortable, he says it's either right or so. So he'll talk, talk, talk, and he'll be like, So yeah. There's a lot of so yeah's going on there. He's not comfortable in front of a microphone. It's funny. For a guy with literally the entire world watching him, he's not a guy that's really that comfortable in front of a bunch of people, except for when he's in car.I find when I get to sit down and talk to Oscar, I would say it's been quite a few times. Gotten to do that most recently in Canada. I find that he's just like a normal dude. You just sit there and you can just talk. I don't really need to formulate questions of getting to a specific... It's just You just can sit there and just talk. It doesn't feel like, How did you feel about this? You know what I mean? It's not one of those. It's really just you're just having a rolling conversation, and he's very open in that respect. Maybe it's just with me. Maybe it was because of our settings, surroundings, et cetera. I don't know. But I always find that with Oscar, I can just have just a normal chit chat with him. Usually, he always turns out really great. I'm a big fan of what Oscar does because he keeps it like this. There's no peaks. There's no big peaks. There's no valleys. He's cool as a cucumber. He keeps it level. He keeps it right in that medium zone, doesn't get overly emotional, doesn't get all the way down on himself, tells you what's going on.And you know what? I respect that a lot. And that's like, again, every driver has their way of getting to race wins, championships, et cetera. But for me, that's one of those ways that you get there.I like that. Yeah, you never hear him complaining either. No.

Oscar really is like, Kimmy's not understated. He's just cold. Whereas Oscar is literally It's literally understated. If you notice in the post-race interview, he has a thing where when he's uncomfortable, he says it's either right or so. So he'll talk, talk, talk, and he'll be like, So yeah. There's a lot of so yeah's going on there. He's not comfortable in front of a microphone. It's funny. For a guy with literally the entire world watching him, he's not a guy that's really that comfortable in front of a bunch of people, except for when he's in car.

I find when I get to sit down and talk to Oscar, I would say it's been quite a few times. Gotten to do that most recently in Canada. I find that he's just like a normal dude. You just sit there and you can just talk. I don't really need to formulate questions of getting to a specific... It's just You just can sit there and just talk. It doesn't feel like, How did you feel about this? You know what I mean? It's not one of those. It's really just you're just having a rolling conversation, and he's very open in that respect. Maybe it's just with me. Maybe it was because of our settings, surroundings, et cetera. I don't know. But I always find that with Oscar, I can just have just a normal chit chat with him. Usually, he always turns out really great. I'm a big fan of what Oscar does because he keeps it like this. There's no peaks. There's no big peaks. There's no valleys. He's cool as a cucumber. He keeps it level. He keeps it right in that medium zone, doesn't get overly emotional, doesn't get all the way down on himself, tells you what's going on.

And you know what? I respect that a lot. And that's like, again, every driver has their way of getting to race wins, championships, et cetera. But for me, that's one of those ways that you get there.

I like that. Yeah, you never hear him complaining either. No.