The British Grand Prix is finally upon us. And just in time, Tim has caught a cold. It's just perfect timing for a guy that's got to spend 12 hours a day at the track because Tim, you're actually there, which is super cool. And of course, you have to be sick. You went through an airport. It has to be that way.

Dude, I wear my mask and everything. You know the N95s that we were wearing during the pandemic or whatever?

Yeah, man, those were worth millions of dollars. For a while there.

Yeah, big time. So we have a stash of them at home. And I use them when I go into airports and when I fly. And I won't use them any time else. But I do use them at those points because there's such a high trafficked area, people coming in from so many different places. And then the planes, recycled air and everything. And I'm like, Oh, no way. I forgot it. I just throw this thing on. Anyways, ended up getting sick anyway.

Of course. Because of course, listen, it can't be easy, but it is the British Grand Prix, and it's exciting, and there's a lot to talk about. We want to talk about Max and Lando making up. I know there was a lot of angry Max for Stoppin' fans in our comments, which is... I don't often see happy Max for Stopping fans in any comment section, if I'm going to be honest with you. It's always defend, defend, defend, get very angry. And then Lando fans seem to be the ones that are the happy ones, but they were not happy last week. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Oliver Beermann, obviously becoming a member of the Haas F1 team on a multi-year deal. But the first thing I want to talk about, Tim, is you sat down with the man, Tota Wolf. I did. And you talked to him, and this is a feature you did for TSN. You talked to him about Well, a few things, but specifically that second seat at Mercedes that we all think at this point in the season is going to Kimi Antenelli. So tell me about it. How was it?

Yeah, no, it was great. I have I've known Total for quite a while. The two of us think we raced against each other, but we're still not sure yet. Are you serious? Yeah, it would have been the FIA GT Championship.

Is there any way to look that up? Is there a database?

Well, we were trying to find We were trying to find the FIA GT Championship database, but it doesn't exist anymore. I don't even know what the series is called now because it's changed names over so many years. But regardless of that, we I chatted with him quite often. No, it was good. I like talking with Toto because he's very to the point. He's honest, blunt, and I respect that. He doesn't really give me the whole PR speak. He tells me what he's thinking. And he was great. I think a big thing for him, Adam, is just the decision on whether or not to put such a young driver in the seat who may not be ready. And then what happens? What happens to that driver if they're not ready? You break their confidence. I think for him, it's just trying to understand if he's going to be ready and whether or not he wants to risk throwing him into the seat because he needs to make a decision, he was saying, by the time autumn reaches. So we're talking either... Yeah, we're probably talking September. I would say he's probably going to be making a decision on that, on that seat, the second seat.

So, yeah, no, it was good talking to him. Good to get his perspective. Good to hear what he's thinking. I mean, he still talks about Verstappen, right? Yeah. He wants Max at the team. I just think he does. I mean, he said it before. He's been pretty open about that. It all just comes down to when, right? Obviously, Max, he has confirmed he will be back at Red Bull for next season. But we've talked about before, Adam, I think if Max doesn't see 2026 engine development at Red Bull going smoothly, then he may look for greener pastures elsewhere.

Okay, so let me understand this from Toto's perspective, because I'm looking at the F2 standings. Kimi Atele is currently ninth. And for my part, I look at that and I go, if you're going to wait on Max for a year. And I don't expect 2025 to be... Listen, they could still win something in 2025. They have George Russell. Why not go get Valtry Botas for a year and let Kimi Antenelli season again in Formula 2? Let him dominate or see if he can, and then see if you're going to get max, and then you have to make a tough decision. But that's a really good decision to have to make. Do I get All-Star Rooky or All-Star Formula One multiple-time champion?

Yeah, good point. I think that's not a bad idea. To either. I mean, all signs do point to... I mean, Kimmy being in that seat for next season, he is getting a lot of mileage. He's getting a lot of testing at him in the last 2022's car. Total who did put him in, I believe it was a 2021 car he threw him into or 2020. I can't remember which one it was, but he basically said to me, I want to put him in something good before I put him in something shit. That's how he basically referred to it. But yeah, I think the more mileage he can get under his belt, then the better off he's going to be when he enters F1. And then they're obviously going to evaluate what he's going to be doing, obviously, during those testing sessions. So that's why they're so crucial for him to have. If he didn't have that, then the chances of him getting that seating Mercedes.

Well, yeah. Hey, I got a question for you. If a car has been sitting for three or four years, the '21 car, the 2020 car, how much time do you think it takes the mechanics back at the factory to get it up and going? How do you source tires if they've changed in that time? How do they do all that?

Well, Well, they would use the current tires that are going right now. Getting an old car up and running is not too difficult. We see it a lot with Ferrari's Corsa Cliente, which is a lot of the older F1 cars being pulled out of the museum or customer cars who have bought F1 cars, and they want to take them to the track. And the mechanics, obviously, it's not that big of a deal to get those cars ready and get them onto the track. So it's not a huge issue for them to do that. Obviously, the big issues right at them are developing a brand new race car. Those are the challenges. Those are the hard things that these teams really have to do is building and progressing a new car. I was at Aston Martin's factory today. So they had an open house for a media, and so they gave me an invite, so I showed up. And they're building... They They have their new state of the art factory that's already running, but they've also built two separate buildings beside it, and it's all connected. I think it's around four to 500 meters worth of hallway and offices and stuff.

It's an open concept where you can go and just talk to anybody, have breakout chats and all that stuff. They have breakout rooms and all that stuff. And the amount of infrastructure that's gone into that place is unbelievable. It will be the pinnacle for F1... It'll be the pinnacle for F1 compounds. Really? Yeah, for sure. 100 %. Everything in it is state of the art. Their SIM room is 360 degree flat screen. It's just massive, dude. Just huge. They They have a running track there outside. They have a weight room, gyms. They have restaurants in there. They have physio rooms for people who need a massage or whatever. It everyone in there is taken care of. It's great. And to see how much work goes into building a part, building a component, you can go in there and see. Because a lot of the machines are all automated now, so it's all like robotics and stuff, building things. And you're literally sitting there watching a robot build something. And you're just like, oh, my God. That's absolutely incredible. And then we didn't get to see the fully developed model room. And so when they create models, full scale models of car parts and everything, and then they put them in the wind tunnel to see if they work, they have three separate stages.

So three separate rooms that the models go crew. So the crew works on them in room one, then they advance them to room two, and another crew in there working on them in room two, then they advance them to room three, where these big robotic arms come down, pick the model up, spin it around, and they can look underneath it, they can bolt things under it, and then it goes straight into the wind tunnel. It was amazing. It's pretty cool, dude. It's really cool. But anyways, advancing the Technology, advancing the car, those are the hard parts, right?

Right. So it's fire up and getting it hold. Getting it hold.

Yeah, that's easy for them to do.

Now, one of the things we clipped out our conversation about Lando and Max on the Sdpn YouTube channel, and it did some numbers because people had things to say on both sides. And I think, Tim, when we talk about Lando, we talk about Max, we're talking about two guys that everybody in the paddock expects to be racing each other for the top spots for the next couple of years. Mclaren's got a great car. Red Bull's had a great car. We don't know what 2026 looks like, but the assumption is that these two are among the best drivers on the grid. Some people So I think a lot of people would want to throw Charles Leclerc in there. Some others would like to throw George Russell in there. I think Ferrari is taking a step back. Mercedes is still trying to catch up. So it's these two, and they're good friends. And the way that it happened at the Red Bull Ring, Lando was knocked out of the race. Max was knocked down in the race. They apparently said, okay, let's not talk until we've slept on this. And afterwards, on Monday morning, they were able to talk.

Do you know what was exchanged?

Yes. So you're right about the fact that they wanted to cool down before they had a conversation. That was Max's idea. It's a good idea. It was to make sure that they were calm before they had a discussion. That tells me like something that they're actually... Well, that he has actually invested in their friendship.

Yes.

And we're not used to this, Adam. Like, drivers, teammates. Yeah, they're teammates, But they're not friends. And seldomly do we have friendships between drivers. It's very seldom. And rarely do you ever really see it. And if you do see it, usually it ends up in a falling out. And this one feels a lot different. They like each other. They're good friends. I don't think for Max, he wants to lose that. It was Max who called Lando on Monday, and they chatted about what happened, obviously, on the Sunday. Lando wasn't expecting Max to be apologetic for what had happened. He basically said he was 99 % fine with everything that went down, but there was a one % that he wasn't fine, and he wouldn't really elaborate on what that one % was, but I think we can all take a guess as to what that was. And then for Max, it was basically just explaining this He's an aggressive driver, and he's not going to back down, nor should he. He should be aggressive for sure. The great champions, they push the boundaries, they push the limits of things, right? That's what they do. And I wouldn't expect anything else from Verstappen on that front, and that's totally fine, and I'm good with that.

I think, again, it's the rules of engagement. We never got into it, but I would like to know if they had that conversation, because that's what's going to dictate everything moving forward, dude, is the rules of engagement. That's exactly what it's going to be. But Max said that next time they're racing, they're hard against each other, they both agreed they're going to push each other flat out.

Well, and from what we understand from the conversation, too, they also may have agreed that they both enjoyed the battle after having a chance to think about it.

Yeah, they did. And I think there were some things obviously Lando didn't really like. I have a feeling it's that lap 55 where Verstappen just did that massive fade over to the right, definitely moving in the breaking zone, just a massive move. I think that may be one of the things that he probably doesn't really care much for. But yeah, I mean, And it was interesting to hear from Lando after he had calmed down. I would be interested to see if it affects him at all on track, when they race each other again, because chances are this weekend, Adam, it's going to be a tight affair at the front. And we're probably going to be talking about Lando and Max fighting for a win again this weekend. It'll be interesting to see how he handles it.

This is very publicly McLaren's home track. This is a British driver. This matters. Big time. And it's a huge, huge... I mean, he finished second last year, if I'm not mistaken, and it was a big deal then, right? For British drivers, Silverstone, obviously, holds an even more special place. And I look at I look at what happened. Last week was Red Bull's home race. This week is McLaren's. Mclaren, I think, as a team, as much as they're young and they're fun to root for, at a certain point, they're going to have to learn how to race like a bear, right? Red Bull is not afraid to do whatever the hell they need to do. It's been so long since McLaren were up here, really, truly, probably since the Vodafone, Ron Dennis, Lewis Hamilton era, that there aren't many people left at the team who remember what that was like, who would have been there. And there's a Championship pedigree that builds within a team, and it only builds when you When you take some bumps and bruises. And I look at Red Bull, they took a lot of bumps and bruises on their way up through Mercedes.

Years and years and years of trying to figure out how to beat Mercedes with a smaller budget. And Ferrari, too. Ferrari had a couple of years there where Vettel should have probably won a Championship in there somewhere. And I look at McLaren and I go, this is a team that... Like, Max, when I look back on it, yes, absolutely. I think Max was in the wrong. But that's also how Max has always raced. And the FIA seems to be okay with it. So if that's what it's going to take, McLaren needs to figure that out. They need to be the ones who are not winding to the officials after the race. They need to be the ones winning the race and then daring the officials to take it away from them, because that's what Red Bull does, right? I dare you to take this back.

Yeah, very aggressive, right, Adam? Yes. They're very aggressive in the way they approach everything. Pit stops, racing tactics, strategies, very aggressive in strategies, actually. They're the most aggressive on the grid in that regard. But yeah, no, Red Bull is definitely a team that always pushes the envelope in all facets of Formula One. And I respect that. The interesting thing out of me, you said there about the stewards and making decisions and the racing. And you know what came up a lot today was drivers talking about just that's how much they're now being micromanaged in how they race. I think Carlos Sainz put it really well, where it's like you just get so convoluted with so much stuff because, oh, my front wing is beside his mirror, so that means it's my corner or my right front wheel is just to the side of Their left rear wheel. And so I'm not able to make a pass here. But my nose was in front and he's got a point. And they all said this. Every driver said this. And they just went off on their own. Alonso went off, too. At one point, it was great.

But the fact is that what they're driving at is that the rule book now is just so complex. There's just so much in it that the drivers are just like, I don't even know if this is going to be where this is in the rule book. And they all have a point. I remember back to when I was racing, back in my day, you made one move and that was it. That was all you could do. You made your one move to block. If someone was able to make something else work, then that's just the way it was. You couldn't You didn't move back. You knew you were going to get penalized. Immediately, you would get a penalty for that. And it was straightforward, simple that way, right? And if the two of you were side by side through a corner, and you're battling. You're battling for the position who's going to lift out first? If you crashed, you had a crash. That's how you sorted it out. If you were passing someone and they were just a bit behind you and you were trying to exit the corner, but they're still there, technically, Basically, you're not in the wrong.

So you just squeeze them out. And that's what I would do all the time. I would squeeze everybody out because you could do it. And that's fine. We're all good with that. And now it's like when you look at the F1 rulebook for Rules of Racing or whatever.

It's crazy, man. Well, and also remembering that these guys are making these decisions at a split second, right?

It's the other point. It's a perfect point. Yeah, 100 %, man.

It's just like, how could you possibly... You don't have time to actually to think of the rules? And that's why I respect what Red Bull does, because they don't. And it benefits them because ultimately, the last thing the FIA wants to do is take a win away from somebody who stood on the podium. That's the last thing the FIA wants to do. So if I'm a McLaren strategist, I'm like, All right, well, if they're going to be bullies about it, we got to be bullies right back. And they have the reputation of being bullies. So why don't we use that to our advantage? Get out ahead. Make sure we win at and then dare the governing body to take it away from us. I think that is the strategy I would go with because that's what it's going to take. And by the way, again, people act like this Max for Stop and Thing is new. Again, Michael Schumacher crashed his car to win points and win championships. This is not new. Drivers are crazy. If you're applying logic to a Formula One driver-It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. You don't get it.

And it's okay that you don't get it. I don't get it. But I'm not You're not a Formula One driver. And the stakes are crazy at that level. They're crazy. You're right at the peak and you can fall. So anyway, it's a great story. And Tim, isn't it wonderful that we're talking about rivalry between Red Bull and someone?

Yes. Isn't that great? That's fantastic.

We haven't been in a rivalry like this since Mercedes and Red Bull.

Yeah, that's right. No, this is great. I think once you got the shots fired from Andrea Stella at the end of Sunday's Grand Prix in Austria, then you knew something was on. You knew you had something here. And I think it's exactly what F1 needs. Granted, maybe some of it has been blown out of proportion, but is it being blown out of proportion just so it could be like, stoked, so the fires could be stoked even more for later on? Yeah. Who knows? But I mean, honestly, it's definitely something F1 needs. And I think also the backstory just with the two of them, right? Being good friends. And it's like, oh, it's even juicier.

Yeah. Well, and I do want to say that the two people that have not made up are Christian Horner and Andrea Stella. I've never seen Andrea Stella speak like this. And today talk or this week talking about the fact that he just cannot reconcile, and I'm paraphrasing here, Christian Horner's comments that Lando was trying to, quote, start something That rivalry, I mean, I miss Toto versus Christian. There isn't much of a rivalry when their cars aren't very good, or when Mercedes can't match Red Bull.

Stella just doesn't get that emotional, right? Adam is just very level-headed, and he's very What's the word I want to use? Basically, he thinks everything through. You can see him thinking about what he wants to say because he wants it to have an impact, but he doesn't want it to be sprinkled with emotion. You know what? I don't mind that because sometimes he gets his point across in the best way, and it's so simple, right? And it makes the biggest impact. Like on the weekend, was he emotional last Sunday? No. Was he pissed? Maybe a little bit for sure. But did he have a point with what he said? Was it, you should have nipped this in the bud a long time ago, but you didn't, and now we're here. Got a point.

Got a point.

Has a point. It was very... I didn't even think about it that way either during the moment, but he did. That's what I'm saying. He's very good that way. But yeah, I don't think it'll ever be like Christian and Toto.

No. You know what? I am looking forward to this because Christian does like to throw barbs and Andrea doesn't. So I'm wondering, how many barbs can Christian throw before Andrea reacts? Because that's when Christian has you, when he gets you to react.

Zack will just get involved. Zack will just get involved.

Zack will get involved. Yeah. Because Zack's got no worries about that. None whatsoever. He's been taking shots at Red Bull all year. So, yeah, I think I love this. I love the rivalries. I love that it goes all the way up to the managerial level. It's going to the fans. This is great. We do want to see some good racing, though, this weekend. And obviously, Tim, one of the things that we're going to know before we even get to the track is one of the Haas drivers is locked up for next year. He is a Ferrari Junior driver, so this makes a lot of sense. Mick Schumacher did this as well. And unfortunately for Mick, the worst Ha car ever. Oliver Beermann, who obviously finished seventh, filling in for Carlos signs in the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix earlier this year, is jumping into a car. I believe he's 19. And it's the sport as Eddie Jordan would envision it. Eddie Jordan always loves to talk about the fact that it should be a young man's sport. It should be very young. And he's like, why do we have people in their 40s still driving here?

That's one man's interpretation. I like having Alonso and Lewis, but Ollie Beermann, multi-year deal with Haas. What do you foresee going on here? Is this the guy that if everything goes well, when Lewis Hamilton retires, he's at Ferrari?

Yeah, this would be the guy who would take over from Lewis whenever he decides to leave Formula One. So putting him at Haas is probably the perfect place for him to learn and grow and mature. And then also on top of that, this is Ayo Kamatzo really wanted him. If we go all the way back, and I said this He was on this podcast after the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, actually. So let's go back and give that a listen. But I had literally said this guy's going to Haas. And the reason was because of his performance at the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix in that Ferrari at a track that's very unforgiving. He makes a little bit of a mistake at him, and it's all over. There was so much pressure on his shoulders before that weekend to not make a mistake. The team was expecting him make a mistake, but he put it on the line and pulled out a remarkable result. Right there, that was all that anyone needed to see to know that this guy was ready for a Formula One. That was the track, the car.

He'd never driven the hybrid engine thing, too, right? That was all new to him.

Well, he did a test. So he did a test in Mexico. So during the Mexico Grand Prix, because I interviewed him after. And I remember Io Kamatsu telling me just how excited he was for him because once he got done that session, that whole team was just so impressed with how well he had done. Adam, Looking at this kid's future, if he can perform... Granted, no one's expecting anything the first year, but his second year, if he's able to keep up with whomever his teammate is going to be or be better than them, then yeah, I mean, this is a driver that Ferrari has invested a lot of time and money into. Like a lot. So they want him to take over for Lewis when he goes. And so obviously, you have to bring him along in the right way. And I think going down to Haas is a perfect fit for him.

Well, and a lot of people complained when Mick Schumacher was there because obviously the car wasn't great and that was on purpose, and Haas were saving money for the next year, and And then Mick got a better car, but him, I think he and Gunther weren't- Yeah, and then you saw...

Well, Adam, because then you saw... Mick was partnered up with Nikita Mazepin at that time, right? Come on. That's not a driver at that moment that you could compare Mick to. No. It was when Kevin Magnuson got in the car, then you actually saw, whoa. All right, Magnuson has blown Mick's doors off all season. And it's like, you just got him out of F2, won a Championship there. The team wasn't super impressed by him. And so, yeah, he had to go. It just did. And then you see Hulkenberg. When Hulkenberg comes in and Hulkenberg takes it to Magnuson. So then you have to wonder, how many levels down was Mick? Because he was above Mazepin. Magnuson came in and thrashed him. But then Hulkenberg came in and thrashed Magnuson. And I think what this tells you is just we don't appreciate the level of the young drivers that we have in Formula One right now, how good this young group of drivers are, because it really is something special to see a lot of these younger drivers now.

Right. And I think there's going to be people who are upset about the Mick Schumacher comment because he does have a legion of fans. But I think you're absolutely right. And that's the thing, right? But what's great about Beermann this time versus what Schumacher had at Haas is this is a really competitive car, likely from day one. They seem to have got a good handle on the regulations. I don't know what 2026 is going to offer, but I would assume that Haas is going to have a Ferrari engine, so that's a good start. What do you think about about putting a driver in what is expected to be a midfield car in their rookie season? Is that a lot of pressure? What do we expect from that?

No, I don't think so. It's good. It allows them to make mistakes. It allows them to really evaluate just everything he can do. It allows him to evaluate what he needs to get better at. I just think it's a smart move. This goes back to our Kimmy Antonelli discussion. It's like taking a driver who's a rookie and then just throwing them in a top team and expecting them to perform right away and all that pressure on their shoulders not to make mistakes doesn't really free them up to really drive the car the way they need to drive the car and get the performance that they need to get from the car. So it's better to take these drivers and put them at the back of the grid. Look at George Russell. It was good for George to be in that, Williams, for as long as he was, even though there was one year, he probably should have been moved up sooner, but Total kept him at Williams for just another year. And now look at what George does. I mean, he's in such a zone right now. What Russell is doing at Mercedes at the moment is incredible.

It's good that they can do that. It's more difficult when you take a really young, inexperienced driver and put them on a top team. That's going to be hard for Kimi Antenelli, but for Ali Behrmann, I think he's going to be able to make his mistakes. There's not going to be a lot of pressure on his shoulders, so I think it's the perfect place for him to start.

Well, I think it's going to be very exciting to see a young guy on the grid. Are we any closer on Carlos signs? Do we know anything else?

No, he wouldn't talk about it today. He basically said, I'm done talking about it until... He's like, You will all know when I've made my decision. And that was it. That's how he left it. There's a lot that we've talked about with Carlos in his decision, how important it And we don't need to go into that. It's on previous podcast. If people want to listen to it, I mean, he's got a big decision ahead of him, and it's not necessarily for next year. It's more along the lines, Adam, like we've discussed. His decision is based upon what happens in 2026.

Yeah. And that's going to be an interesting one. Going to be an interesting one. Okay. So listen, Silverstone. Practices start tomorrow. What are we expecting from this track? Who are we expecting to do well? Who are we expecting to take a step back? I obviously We think McLaren, Red Bull are a lock, but who's got the edge?

Yeah, I think McLaren, Red Bull. We'll see what happens with Ferrari. For some reason, a few of the people think Mercedes is going to be pretty competitive here. Probably not battling McLaren and Red Bull, but people think they're probably going to be the third fastest team. Ferrari is still working on getting its stuff together. They seem to understand what's wrong with their car and what they're doing wrong with it. And then from there on out, it's anybody's guess at them as to what happens with Alpine? I mean, they've been looking really good lately. And then what about RV? They're both running mixed components for this weekend. Both of them are running new and old equipment on their cars. And then Aston Martin could be a tough weekend for them, man. I think they're going to struggle. I think Williams is going to struggle, too.

That's funny because this is a track that Williams did, I think, well last year, relatively.

Well, it's a straight line speed they had, right? They had good straight line speed. So here it's just so much different now, Adam. Their car that they've got now, it's way different than what they were expecting, and they need to put upgrades on it. They need more downforce on the car.

That's pretty sad. How do you think Mercedes-It is. Let's zero in on Ferrari Mercedes for three, four here. Ferrari seems to have taken a few steps back, Tim. Are they bringing anything new?

Not this weekend. No upgrades this weekend. Red Bull will have upgrades this weekend. Max wouldn't elaborate what those upgrades are, so I don't really know. He was just saying, Yeah, I hope they work. That should tell you something. Okay. I think for Ferrari, they probably won't have another round of upgrades coming for a bit. It's big thing with them is what they're trying to understand is where they have the car in terms of its ride height, where they ride it on the track in terms of how high or how low So should it be to the ground for them to get performance because they're still getting some porposing or bumping? Carlos was telling us a bit about it. It was essentially as a car is going through a corner, high speed and long duration, like the corners in Silverstone here, for example, the car would bump. And so if the car is bumping up and down, then you're not getting the maximum performance out of it at that point because the tires aren't gripping into the pavement for the whole way around the turn. So you're losing those fine hundredths, 10ths of a second deal because of that.

So they just need to figure out where to run the car. They're happy with the upgrade that they brought. Remember, they brought that big one to Imala? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. They confirm that it's doing what it's supposed to do. It is a step forward. It's for them trying to understand where to run it. And so that's their big issue right now, just trying to figure that part out. And I think it's one of those things we always I talk about with these cars. It's like the smallest little detail running it in a certain sweet spot, and you unlock a ton of performance.

And that has got to be both very exciting when you get it, but very frustrating when you don't for these teams. I find it. Yeah. And a race like this, obviously, it's one of those where there's a lot more eyeballs than just your usual race, right? It's the British Grand Prix. So for anybody that that might be newer to the sport, why is this track so special?

Oh, man, it's like a roller coaster. It's so fast, and I think it's a proper racetrack. This is a proper racetrack. If you ever come here and see it firsthand, then you'll know. You'll be like, oh, yeah. Okay. So this is what it's like.

Right. It goes up and down. There's a lot of elevation changes, right?

There's a little bit of elevation. It's not massive. There is a tiny bit of elevation. It's the speed of the corners, and they're just that big guts corners. There's... Oh, man. Like, maggots, beckets. That complex is incredible. I went for a run on this track last year, and I've driven it on the sim. I've done laps around it, but never in, obviously, a Formula One car. And when you get to that Maggots, Beckets, complex and you're just looking at it, and you're just like, how the hell does that work? I need to see this in person, right? It's incredible, man. It's incredible. It'll blow your mind when you see them go through there. Blow your mind.

Well, one of these days I'm getting out there. One of these days, the hockey season is going to wrap up and I'm going to go to the British Grand Prix, and it's going to be the first race after hockey season. So it'll be perfect.

It should, man. It's actually a really great event. They do a great job out here. How do I want to explain? It's like a massive party atmosphere, and they have huge guests. I think Kings of Leon played tonight. They have this huge stage set up on the outside of one of the corners. And it's like Woodstock. It's crazy. I think they had Stormzy's playing tomorrow. Oh, cool. Yeah. And then they've got a couple of big other artists, like Saturday, Sunday. I just forget who they all are, but they've got massive guests here playing. But then on track, you've got all the action, all the racing, F3, F2, Porsche, Carrera Cup, GT, and then obviously, Formula One. And yeah, it's fantastic. It's a really great event. I really think you'd like it.

So I know that you're staying about an hour and a half away from the track. I hear it's a nightmare to get to or get from. Is that the reason it's an hour and a half?

No, it's like I'm in a place called Chipping Norton. Chipping Norton.

Okay. I probably- Very British-sounding name.

I'm tired. Anyways, this is where Jeremy Clarkson lives. So he literally It was right down the road. And this is where they filmed Clarkson's Farm. And Clarkson's Farm is a documentary on Prime. And I'm a big fan of Jeremy Clarkson. I appreciate what he does. Was. But I started watching Clarkson's Farm after I went to his farm a couple of days ago. And so I'm like, okay, now I got to check this thing out. So I started watching it and I'm like, oh, my God, this is hilarious. So good. So anyway, so that's where I'm staying. But it's about a 45 minute drive with some traffic. It can be close to an hour. Getting in and out of the track actually is not too bad. It depends when you go in and it depends when you leave. Okay. Because they only have one lane of track because they switch it to Where they let traffic go one way on all four lanes for an hour, and then they switch it back and they let it go back to normal traffic. It's a whole thing, man. It's a whole thing here.

I bet. What are they? Half a million people there? I think they expect over the course of the weekend, something like that.

Close to it. Yes, it's 480,000 is what they're expecting.

That's crazy. That's just a crazy amount of humanity. Well, Tim, listen, I'm going to let you get to bed. All right. I'm going to let you fix that cold of yours. I hope you have a good sleep. We're going to be following along on social media, jealously, of course, and we'll catch up after the weekend's done, my friend.

Cool. Thanks, Adam. I appreciate it, man.