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Let's go. Hello and welcome to week 2 of the Drewer and Stewer podcast. I'm Drew Livingstone. That's Kam Stewer. Kam, a little up and down week for both of us. I was 10:00 and 5:00 going into Monday night. Tonight, we don't know the results. You were 8:00 and 7:00 going to Monday night. Both of our best bets were two and one. My My best bet that was wrong was the Tennessee Titans, and your best bet that was wrong was the Carolina Panthers. Not only was that wrong, Cam, that was the worst pick in NFL history, apparently.

It could be. As I said, I tweeted, I go, This smells like the outhouse at a fish concert with all these Stoneers there, Honest to God, eating burritos. I told my girlfriend, we were, Drew, and I'll give you credit, I was watching the Tennessee game. They had control. It was 17-0. I remember because we were going out for dinner for her birthday. It was that in the Bills game. I go, Let's just watch the Tennessee game. Things are going well. 17-0. We're high-fiving each other. I go, Honey, this is me and Drew's big play here, whatever. Next thing you know, they're coming back, and then they're down seven. I'm like, What's Will Levis doing? I got to tell you, Drew, that was going down as one of the worst beats. When we talk about games and swings, sometimes you know what he said? People go, Oh, I'm on the right side. It was a good bet, whatever, and it loses. It doesn't matter. It loses. But the bottom line was this. I've never seen a team dominate. Caleb Williams did nothing. He gets the game ball No, he gets the game ball, too. First of all, Tennessee's returner for being butterfingers bears special teams.

They're kickers money, and the rest is history. The fact that we didn't cover- 6, 6, fumbled, muffed, punt.

What were you thinking?

I'm thinking worst scenario, we lose by three, and we cover the numbers.

Dude, I was like, Oh, worst scenario, it's an overtime. Yeah, lose by three. It was 17-0. Luckily, on Bet 365, when the money line is 17, you win it. So I got the money line still. Good for you. But that wasn't as big as my spread I had. And I was like, Oh, I was 17-nothing. This is amazing. We said on the show, Titans defense is unbelievable. Will Levis just had to not make mistakes, Cam. That's it. Just don't make mistakes.

Drew, I'm going to tell you, see, you brought up a really good point, and we're not getting paid by this sportsbook, but I think I've talked to people about this. They're like, Oh, you're playing $1,000 a game. Pinnacle is a great book. I'm going to say for Juice, it's the best. And I work with a lot of books. But I'm going to tell you, there's no price you can put on getting paid for a bet in a football hockey game where you win it and the other team comes back and you can middle it twice and win every day.

In a hockey, you can win your team's up to three nothing. Bet the other side, they come back, you've already won.

Drew, no, that's good information we're giving people. These guys aren't even paying us. But as a consumer, that's not getting paid by them, I would say that feature to me is the most important.

Yeah. Anything else stand out for you in week one, Cam? I know the Titans screwed us. Joe Burrow looked like absolute shit. I don't know what this guy was doing out there. I saw the All-22. So So many open guys came, and he's just seeing pressure that isn't there and panicking, checking it down. What's up with the bangles? The vibe is just not right with that team. We did say you had them fourth in the division. I had them third.

I had all the people that called me. People were whipping us. Okay. You're a ripper. Okay. Letter to editor. Here's what you can do. You can have all Carolina bets come to me, and I will literally say that could have been the worst bet in the history of football. I look at my phone, it's 30 to three, and I go, A girl I was like, How about our teaser? I go, Well, honey, Carolina has got to win by... They got to score this. I check it out. I'm like, Oh, New Orleans scored again. I go, Put an X through it. I'm not even going to pay attention. I was like, Hey, Drew. I literally... Bryce Young had a quarterback rating of 2.5. I don't think a baby and toddler's doing a Pampers commercial could do worse.

Was that better or worse than Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones might have been worse than that.

Daniel Jones was bad, but I would have to say, out of all the quarterbacks, like, Bryce Young's numbers are just...

They were disgusting. Kam, we were defending him on offseason. We're like, Oh, give the kid a chance, blah, blah, blah. He came in and just, Oh, my God. How does that happen? I know we got to give the guy some leash, but he just doesn't look athletic. He doesn't look like he has the arm to play in the NFL. Kam, I don't know what's up with this guy. How long until he say he's cooked?

Drew, I'm going to say pretty soon. I'm a more patient guy with quarterbacks than you, but I'm going to tell you this, if this guy doesn't get it together in a couple... I hate to say it, is it Big Ginger time? Andy Dalton is... You can't say at this point, even though Andy Dalton is a statue, is not 100 million times better than Bryce Young. I don't even think it's close.

Yeah, I don't think so either. You tell me.

And now I'm going to go, Hey, Kam, and his backup quarterbacks again. You know what? Threw We'll get nice young out there and see how he does.

The guy sucks. The worst is going to be when Cam goes back to Carolina this week. We'll see. But Cam, the other thing you want to talk about- I feel bad for you on that Tennessee pick, Drew, because you know what?

You should have gone perfect on that. Oh, yeah. But this is the NFL. That's the NFL, baby. Oh, think about this, too, Drew. So I have Seattle, and me and my girlfriend had to go. I already got them five and a half, but I'm like, you know what? Six and a half? Who cares? It went by a countdown. So I put huge money on that.

How about two safeties against your team?

No. And first of all, one of them wasn't even a safety. There were two safeties and backdoor cover by Denver. Seattle should have won that game by a million. And then they end up winning by six. I win my original bet, but I lost by the hook on the other one. Very frustrating.

Yeah. Luckily, we had five and a half on here. Yeah, I'm right. Yeah, Cam, the other thing I got to say is Cleveland's defense showed out like we said they would. They held Dallas to under 300 total yards. It was there 4 for 14 on third downs. They forced so many field goals. The issue was, Deshawn Watson, absolute trash. I'm done defending this guy, Cam. I love. Cleveland could have easily won that football game. Their defense was unreal. And just Watson throwing ducks, checkdowns, duck, checkdown, getting sacked, running for no reason sometimes when he's got guys wide open. I was just like, How long until Jamis comes in? I know you're paying this guy 70 million in the next two years. It doesn't matter. That's on your GM. If I'm Stefancy, I'm like, Listen, you made that deal, not me. I'm putting Jamis in.

You bring up so many good points. I think Remember, Jamis Winston once drew for the most yards in the NFL. Do we not remember this?

He's a gunslinger. He makes mistakes. That's the whole thing. He made mistakes. Well, at least he tries.

He made mistakes. The thing about Dajon Watson, and we're watching something now. This is week one, Drew. All it is is going to get worse for some of these quarterbacks. They haven't been hit yet. What do we do here? We have a guy that stole the bag. Let's just call it out for what it is. Deshaun Watson was a menace to society with women. He went to the massage parlor. He got that huge contract, and now I don't even think he knows how to play football.

I don't even think he wants to be there. I'm trying to think of a worst- Has there been a worse contract given out in the NFL ever? No. I'm trying to think. Russell Wilson's was pretty bad, but at least never got out of it and accepted it. Exactly, man.

Dude, and you saw this guy. You're a Clemson guy. This guy was one of the best athletes ever. I don't know what happened to him. And Cam Newton, even on his way out, Cam Newton still had a skillset. This guy's skillset has gone... I've never seen a guy... Drew, we should be very concerned. He might be done.

Like, done. Dude, I defend this guy. He was second in MVP voting when he threw for 5,000 yards four years ago. Don't defend him anymore.

You're right, not that. I just can't. You're a man who's married with children, too.

Don't ever- No, I'm not defending him.

I'm just defending him. No, I was defending him like being in the league and being a quarterback. Not only is he now a jerk, he's also a guy that can't play football. So what's his use? Nothing. I'm telling you, I don't care how much money Cleveland's playing. I put Jameis Winston in there. Hell, this team went with Drew Flacko, who runs like my dad and his walker could almost beat him in a 40-yard sprint.

They probably win that game yesterday if Flacko was a quarterback.

I'm going to tell you, Flacko was a... I agree with you again. I agree with you again.

If you told me the Cleveland held Dallas to 4 for 14 on third down, 260 yards total in the game, Dack only had 179 yards. I'd be like, oh, Cleveland dominated. You're right, Paul. Nope, because their offense just couldn't move the football, and it was just turnover after turnover. And Dallas just... Aubrey camp, best kicker I've ever seen. This guy's hitting 55 yards. It's like a chip shot. He's not even running. He's just like, wrong.

We talked about it. Like, I think about games that were one with kicking, too, like Santos L helper for Cleveland.

Chris Boswell?

But Cleveland's kicker is wicked, too. That guy's nutty kicks and tough surfaces. But we talked about on our show, you're right, Drew, great call again by you. Aubrey, this kid's special. He is special. See what the lions did, actually. They went and got a kicker from the NFL League, from the Michigan Panthers, right? So it's interesting, buddy. We'll see what happens. And so far, your takes are... I don't know.

Well, besides the Titans, I thought they were going to win outright.

So we'll- You deserve better on that game.

Anyways, going to Monday night. I switched off the Jets to San Fran. I'm still all over San Fran tonight. All my bets are on San Fran. Everyone's on the Jets. I'm watching pregame shows before our show today, and I'm just like, everyone's on the Jets side, and Everyone's talking about how like, oh, Trent Williams is going to be slow. Auk is going to be slow. It can acclimate to the offense. Mccaffee is going to be on a pitch count. Purdy is no good, blah, blah, blah. Guys, Rodgers hasn't thrown a football in like 600 days.

Drew, what games did I change, though? Do you know I went 0-3 my changes. If I kept Arizona, Minnesota-Yeah, so if you kept Jacksonville, you would have won.

Buffalo, you pushed. It was fine because it was six.

Okay. I had Minnesota, I switched to the Giants. No, you didn't.

You were on the Giants, and I told you to switch to Minnesota with me, and you were like, I want to switch, but I'm not going to. You stayed on the Giants. It's funny.

A guy that I really respect who I do a college show with Jacksonville was one of his top pick this week. That was a great pick by him, and I should have stayed on Jacksonville.

Jake should have won that game easily. Etn films at the one, they would have 17 points.

There's a lot of weird things that happen week one. Drew, you know what? Since you got the hot hand and I would have had a better record. Worst case scenario, I go even. I'm going to go with you on San Francisco. I really thought about taking the Jets, too, and I love dogs, but I don't know who Aaron Rodgers is going to play. Watching these older quarterbacks now is making me think, Fuck father time, catch us up with nobody. San Francisco, one thing, too, is Aaron Rodgers always talk, Oh, I wish I played for the Niners and blah, blah, blah. Dude, go on a mushroom trip in the Himalayas. No one cares about what you're doing. And he's one of these guys in the league. I think guys would like to pummel. And San Francisco is a type of nasty guys on that team. So I'm with you. I think San Francisco, I think a Jets' Teaser would probably play, but I will lay a four. And now it's four with San Francisco. We got a number. What do you think about the under? 43, too. We should probably give people a total pick since that's when they came.

Kam, I think it's like 31,21. Sanfran wins this game.

So you think it goes over? Interesting. Okay.

Yeah. I think- Too low? So the Jets have a great defensive line. We have Quinlan Williams. I think they're going to be missing Redik tonight, Kam. I think he gets paid tomorrow because they're not going to be able to get a pass rush on Purdy. And if Purdy's back there, yeah, when he's pressure, he's off balance, he throws some pics, whatever. When he has time, Kam, he's a very good quarterback, and I think he's going to have lots of time tonight. So I could just see him dissecting that defense. I know Sauce Gardner is going to be on Brandon A. U. So I don't like those props, but give me Jennings' props, McCaffee check downs, Jordan Mason is going to use a bunch. I don't see the Jets keeping up with them. Unless Rodgers all of a sudden... Like the Rodgers we saw five years ago, but I don't know if he is. Can you trust that Rodgers is going to be that? Rodgers, Kam, look how bad cousins look coming off his Achilles. This guy couldn't step on his foot.

Yeah, you're right. And we're not doctors here. By the way, that lions, Ram's game, you got the lions to cover in overtime. I walked out of the conference, and I'm like, lions were killing them. And then I go, oh, my God, this game is going overtime. I was playing Black Jack. I'm like, what the hell happened?

That was when I did not deserve to win Detroit minus three and a half. That was super good.

But, Drew, and then I'm looking, oh, dude, tell the people about the guys I left on the bench in your pool, like Reid and all. I'm a fantasy. I'd have 200 points in one league. I left Williams on the bench in another league. I have all All my bench players over 30 points and all my starters under 15. I just don't know what I did this weekend other than consume alcohol and try to win money.

Well, let's move on to week two, Cam. Week two, rebound. It's overreaction week one. Let's talk about the overreactions when we get into these games. We will start with Buffalo at Miami on Thursday at football. The lines I got them an hour ago, Cam, so if they're changed, too bad. You're going to be what I tell you. Okay.

You're getting tough this year.

Well, I've already made the graphics game.

If you I've made the graphics. So I got Buffalo plus two and a half.

Are we- So you're okay? So Miami minus two and a half. That's good. I'm seeing some one and a halfs out there, but it's two and a half for us. Cam, I'll start this one-off. The bills are 12 and one with Josh Allen against Miami in his career. You're giving me them as an underdog. I don't care how good the dolphins looked. I'll just take the bills blindly as underdogs plus two and a half.

Me too, buddy. We're reading each other's mail, so Bagman is going to have to wait a few games. I love the fact that Buffalo, too. People from Buffalo made that trip to Miami. Drew, they lived for this stuff, right? Oh, the old September And there's already snowbirds that live there, let alone the people that travel. Bill's Mafia, that's what they do with their money. They follow the bills around. And by the way, Drew, I was in Niagara Falls, and let me tell you something moving forward, the wind in that area, I'm telling you, it was like a damn hurricane. I walked out of the hotel, the old couple almost fell over. My Seahawks shirt went over my head. The winds had to be 40 miles.

And then I'm thinking- That's why I don't trust Bas to hit any field goals.

That's the thing. And I started to realize, I'm only 25, 30 minutes away from Orchard Park here. It's something to think about with Bills games. The wind is just nuts.

Yeah. Once they have a new stadium, that won't be an issue. But yeah, while they're at Ralph Wilson, it will be an issue. All right. That was quick and easy.

So Double Bills, baby. I'm with you. That was a nice comeback, too. They should have covered that game earlier.

I wasn't worried because of the double dip with the half, with how they get the ball back. If they didn't score on that drive before half, I would have been worried, but I wasn't really worried.

Alan, any time, touched down to Drew. It was minus 25 cents. You got to take it almost.

He did hurt his hand, his non-throwing hand on that hurdle over Baker. This guy needs calm down. I don't know why he's hurtling week one. But he hurt his hand, so we'll see about that. He might have an issue with handing the ball off, they're saying. But I think if he just tapes it up, he'll be okay. Or a little injection. Moving on. Tampa Bay at Detroit camp. I got the Lions minus six. The total is 48 and a half. Baker Mayfield. How about Baker camp? I was on Tampa side, four touch downs leading the NFL in passing, touch downs. We thought Tampa was going to be cooked coming of the year, but I think Washington is either really bad or Tampa is actually still a Tampa we saw last year.

Maybe they are, Drew. I got to be honest with you. I liked Washington this game, and I did another show, and everybody had Pittsburgh, so I had to get off it and take this game, which really pissed me off. Tennessee was my other option. I'm going to tell you this. I think Washington, and maybe we big them up too much, and I still don't think Tampa Bay is as great as we think. But I will say this, They played Detroit really, really tough in that game, but I still think Detroit is so much better. It's under a shutdown. This game could change for me. I don't like to lay points, and I think Detroit got a little bit of a scare from the Rams. What did we learn, Drew? Don't let teams back in games. They had them up early, and I think Dan Campbell needs to address this. So if they get a lead in the game, I have a feeling they're going to put their foot on Tampa's throat and keep that back door closed. I like Detroit in this game by 13.

Yeah, I'm going to go lines as well because I think everyone's going to be on Tampa for seeing them smoke Washington, but that's a rookie quarterback who wasn't playing very well at all. Daniels didn't look good. We can agree on that, right? He looked good running the football, but throwing it, he looked awful.

He's got problems. Hey, all of them. Caleb Williams, everybody's anointing him. He didn't look very good at all. I don't care what anybody said.

He was missing- Bo Nicks made some okay passes, but he didn't look great either.

No, it's hard for rookie quarterback. Bo Nicks also Seattle pressured him. He made a couple of plays, as you said, Drew, but he still missed guys. Actually, I thought he played pretty well. Seattle's defense could kill him in that game. He avoided pressure a lot. I watched every time.

Yeah, he threw behind a couple of guys, though. He did.

But I'm just saying, it's hard for rookie quarterbacks in this league. So let's go with Detroit, Drew. We might change this one, but I think we're feeling the lions in the bill so far.

All right. Speaking of, why don't you tell us about your excursion Sunday Why you're beat down right now? You were going to see some 50s rock band that no one's ever heard of or something?

50s rock band? You cut your mic. What do you think? You think we're pulling out of a pink Cadillac? It's actually a really good show. His band's called Crowded House. They're in the '80s. Sorry, Drew, not all of us grew up on Britney Spears. I don't know how old you are. How old are you, Ken?

Insync, baby.

Yeah, Insync was your band. I forgot. You were an Insync kid. Anyway, it was actually a great show. I went to the show. We went out for a steakhouse, Drew. I ponied up, and I was hoping to have more monies after the Tennessee game, then we could have really got the surf and surf combo. But anyway, we hit the steakhouse. Now we hit the felt, hit the concert, and then hit the felt.

How did you do on the blackjack table?

You played the Bahama bonus? Bahama bonus is the best. I'm going to be honest with you. I played with a bunch of idiots, and I've learned this. You want the best tip on this show rather than pics? Playing with teenagers on a Saturday or Sunday night at Casino Naga is a one-way ticket to disaster. These kids are hitting 15s against 6s. They have no clue. And to all you people that come in and out a parking spot, you're a fucking prick. I don't care what you do. When people are playing at the table, I don't like this lurchy arm reaching over and putting chips in. I don't know, I went up to them, but I can't stop them. I'm not the pit boss.

When they reach over and put chips to your stack, I'm like, Who the fuck you think you are playing on my stack?

No, that's the whole thing. I put on your stack, I go, I don't care, but can you ask me next time?

Yeah, don't just reach over my face.

People, the etiquette at that thing. And then I learned, you know how you win, Drew? I'll tell you, I got a little bit back. I know how I did, and that got ruined as I found the oldest lady in the place. Oldest lady watched her play, going, Nose it, nose it. I watched everything she did for four or five hands, and I go, I sat down, we went, win, win, win. And who came in? A bunch of drunken punks came in there, sat down. The minute she saw these guys play, she's out the door.

Did they at least pull the like, Hey, are you guys cool if we join in? No, no.

There was no, Hey, we're cool. It's, Hey, we're moving down. That's the whole thing. On weekends, there's no etiquette.Tip, find the oldest lady.Yeah.

If you see someone's winning, I wait until they say it's okay to sit down. I wait till they're losing streak starts. It's Drew.

This is the hottest tip I give people all year. I won't give you winners, but I'll tell you this. Never play Black Jack with drunks and kids at night. Find the oldest person, a senior, preferably, and play with two people at a hand, and don't talk When you win, just, and don't tell anybody. Never attract the vultures.Veteran move.

Next game. Get up to Seneca on the way to the Bills game.

I was actually thinking about going to Seneca, but I just didn't want to deal with the border too much next time.

All right, Titans hosting the Jets cam. We don't know how the Jets perform tonight. We will. We know how the Titans perform.

Why don't you start with this after the Tennessee debacle?

Their offense looked atrocious. Will Levis, the photo of him going like this after he threw the pick 6 to end the game for the Titans. They're plus four at home. I really like the Titans defense cam. Overreaction week one makes him want to take the Titans here, but I don't know how the Jets do tonight, which that makes it hard. This might change on the Thursday show, but right now, Kam, I'm going back to the well with the Titans. Give me the Titans defense against Aaron Rodgers at home to cover the points. They might not win, but I think they can cover plus Here's the deal, Drew.

I think this is the hardest, and this is what we're doing. We're taping before the Monday nighter. We like to get out the games early and then readjust on Thursday, just for you guys, just tuning in for the first time. That's what we do Mondays and Thursdays, and Drew puts it together. I'm going to take the New York Jets in this spot. I don't really love the game, Drew. I could change, but here's the thing. I probably think if we think the Jets are going to lose, I think that game is going to be more important to them next week, assuming San Francisco beats them, and especially if they cover. I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to look like. If he's hop along Cassidy out there and gets murdered in the game, maybe we should have bet on Tennessee. You're actually doing the right thing because it can only get worse for the Jets if Aaron Rodgers gets beat up tonight. But I think he'll stay up right. Give me the Jets minus four. This game is definitely on the changeable box come Thursday.

Yeah, I think the Jets lose tonight, which means I think that the Titan, this line is going to go to three. So I'm going to take the Titans now. The Jets went tonight, Cam, this line can move to minus six. It could. So I think, yeah, maybe it means I should take the Jets. I'm going to take the Titans anyway. Where do you think mystery tie My man is on this one?

Jets.

Correct. There you go.

So I'm getting three and one for this. Let's just say this. I'll trade my record for mystery tiebreaker bagman's split pics. We're always 500 or more.

It's true. You're always Yeah, you're always like, what?

Like 80 %? Yeah, I don't have too many requests from you. Can you start the next game, please? I'm still confused.

This will be three out of four.

I'll start the next one after.

No, it's fine. You're usually Seattle Whisperer, so you know. But Seattle, going to Fox I'm not sure what to take on the Patriots. Patriots coming off their huge upset over the bangles that knocked me out a week one survivor in like 40 % of most pools. The idiots that took the bangles camp hole is not to. And I was like, I'm not worried about your Joey Brisset. I shouldn't worry about Joe Burrow not knowing how to play quarterback anymore. But New England plus three. Cam, I think if New England doesn't pull up that upside, this line is minus six Seattle. So give me Seahawks blindly here because I just think this line is wrong. I think people are overreacting how New England played.

I agree. And watching that Seattle game, I've learned a lot. They're actually not as good at home as they are now on the road. They don't mind these East Coast- It is a long travel, though, for them. It is. But the thing is, though, New England will probably be feeling a little bit better about themselves. Like, wow, we beat the bangles and stuff. I think Seattle could have cleaned up a lot of things in that game, Drew. You also have to remember, there was a punt, a fumbled punt that led to points by Denver and two safeties. One of them, I thought, was out of the end zone. So that score was not indicative. At the second half of the game, Seattle pummeled Denver.

Even like Kevin, the bangles. The bangles had Erwin fumbled at the one-yard line, Gisicki drop a countdown, and And then the muff punt. So everything went wrong for Sinti. They could have easily won the game by two touch downs. Good call. So, yeah, I think New England's defense is being heavily overrated here. I think Seattle could have their way. Walker, his abdominal injury is a bit worrisome. Charbonney is pretty good, though, as a backup, so I'm not too worried about that.

Actually, Kenny Macintosh, I'm going to tell you, Drew, watching this guy play, they don't play him enough, but McDonald's starting to get confident. Kenny Macintosh will be Seattle's second string's quarterback. I'm actually mad at... Charbonney is the reason Seattle didn't cover because they ran him three times and gave the ball back to Denner. If they get one first down, they win that game by 13. I like Charbonney. He's a good blocking back, but I just- You're good at catching.

That's about it.

No, but I just don't think he's... But Kenny Macintosh from Georgia is a better back. I've watched every Seattle game, but you know what? It's hard to get a second string quarterback drafted that high. And he went to Michigan, UCLA. He's got good pedigree. But I'm just going to say this, I don't think he's as good as people think. I think Walker ran great in that game, too. Drew, see how hard he runs?

Before his injury? Oh, he was great.

He's so good.

He had two touch downs called back because of stupid It's ridiculous.

They got hosed on calls, too. Anyway, I'm on Seattle, too. I think New England is feeling good. I'm glad when you're on my team, Drew. It makes me feel better.

All right. Cleveland going to Jackson take on the Jags. The Browns, their defense, stepped up and held Dallas in check. Their offense, on the other hand, like we said, absolutely atrocious. Deshawn Watson is still a starter as to fancy said. Obviously, they can't go away from them. If they're 0-3, maybe I could see the switch, but you're paying this guy this much money guaranteed. You can't trade them. You got to just ride it out at this point. They're my division winner. The Jags blew it against the Dolphins. It could have been up 17 points with ETN fumbled at the one. So many guys fumbled at the one yard line on their way to the end of the week. It was weird. But Kam, I'll start this one, too. I don't care. I love the Browns in the spot. Everyone's off them because of how bad they looked. Kam, plus four. Give me four points. The best unit in this game is the Browns defense. Like a Browns offense, Browns defense, Jags offense, Jags defense. The Browns defense can hold them in check enough to cover this game by four.

I love it, Drew. You're reading my mail overreaction. Jacksonville I think the Jags are okay, but now we're getting Cleveland at four, and I think they'll take their show on the road. I like the defense as well. I don't know what the hell Deshawn Watson is doing and how much money he's making. I have a shorter leash. If this guy sucks in this game and they have an opportunity, say their defense is keeping them in and they're just punting and punting and punting, I'd put Deshawn Watson into the second half. That's how crazy. I'd put Winston in and I'd say, Deshawn, you know what you're doing? You're killing our football team. I know you stole money from the organization. I don't want you out there anymore. I It's hard to do that when a guy makes money, but I hate that. It doesn't matter. You've already paid the guy the money. Don't you? You don't want to just win games? So it's always like, oh, we're paying him so much. Yeah, the guy shit. Who cares how much you're paying him? I want the guy who's going to be on the field to win. Give me Cleveland plus four.

Could be our best bet of the week, Drew.

. We'll see. I do think Steffie Graff did not impress me against Miami Dolphins. I think he left way too many points on the field. He did. Steffie. So, yeah, give me the Browns here. I think that's 1310 written all over it. So I'll take the plus All right. We're in agreement on a lot of games so far. Moving on. Minnesota hosting the San Francisco 49ers. We don't know how San Francisco performs tonight. We will find out on our Thursday show. Minnesota looked very good against the Giants. Thankfully, I switched off. Cam didn't. Daniel Jones, Kam, just gave the game away to Minnesota. Sam Darnold in his own home looked just fine. Jj is unguardable. It doesn't matter who's quarterback. It doesn't matter, Cam. Where are you going on this one?

I'm going to take Minnesota in this one, Drew. Getting five. Sam Darnold used to play number four of the 49ers, knows them a little bit. And I was actually very impressed with that I took the Giants on the spread, and boy, did I regret that play. Same old Giants, same old shit. Give me the Minnesota Vikings getting five against San Francisco. I think San Francisco, if they win, especially tonight, will be a big play. I should probably wait because if San Francisco is great, we'll probably get Minnesota at five. But right now, I'll take Minnesota at five. Give me the Vikings. Schole, baby.

Yeah, I'm taking San Francisco on the other side. I think Minnesota had a good week one against probably one of the bottom three teams in the NFL. This isn't that. This is a good pass When we know what happens to Sam Darnell when he has a pass rush against them, it's all seeing ghosts. So give me San Francisco to win this game by 20 to 25 points came. I think, especially if they lose tonight to the Jets. If they lose tonight to the Jets came, I'm going to be hammering this line. If they win, which I think they will, it's not the same. But I do like Sam for him to win this game by 10 to 20. So, yeah, give me minus five. Where do you think the mystery tiebreaker man is on this one?

I think he's on San Francisco, Drew.

Correct. I thought I was trying to trick you.

You tricked me. No, you didn't. So what am I, 2 and 0?

Yeah, 2 and 0 so far. All right, Cam.

We got to bring this guy out. That's what we got to do. Just know what he's betting.

Indianapolis. Going to Green Bay to take on Jordan Loveless, Green Bay packers. Cam, I feel bad for the guy. Five seconds left, you spraying your MCL.

Well, I told you not to go to Brazil. The turf was horrible all night.

The field was embarrassing.

I can't make a statement saying- How can the NFL get away with this shit?

You're forcing these guys to play, and they can't leave the hotel in the city they're in. The field is absolutely trash. Everyone's hurting their knees and their ankles because the cleats don't grip properly. And you're just raking in the money. Roger Goodell doesn't care. You know what?

I got to ask you, just calling Celina and Barnes. Do we have a lawsuit here? You tell me.

I know that- The issue is you can't blame the turf for love's injury because it was Jordan Davis was on the bottom of it.

You can't. But I'm also saying guys could have got killed the whole damn game. Oh, yeah.

Nfl, stop doing the places like- To the first play of the game, Saquon fell over because his cleat couldn't grip the turf. I know.

It's ridiculous. I thought these guys were going to put in like wooden pieces of wood instead of long cleats, like whittling them at halftime. It was a joke. Enough of this stuff. I know you fucking greedy pigs want money all the time. You're already rich. Everyone's betting on your It's a really good product anyway. It's a frigging movie. Anyway, give me... Oh, God, what are we going to do with this game now?

Cam, I think I got to blindly take the Colts here. Malik Willis sucks.

I'm going to take the Colts as well. Actually, you know what? We should jump on it now because Malik Willis is not an NFL quarterback. Minus three and a half. Dude, he's so bad. He's more than bad. He's awful. And that's another thing. Shame on you, Green Bay. I'm going to say this, when you have a great young quarterback and a team that has potential, you always need a good backup.

Malik- They just traded for him two weeks ago.

What are you doing? Every team that's good, you have to have a second guy that is competent to keep you in the season while you get... You know what I'm saying, Drew? To me, that's a must. If you're a talented team, you can't throw a stiff in there. If you're any team that has Super Bowl potential, your second string quarterback has to be at least effective. Remember the Kansas City Chiefs? We talked about it. Chad and he saved their ass when Mahomes was hurt in three games. Big drives, too, where he scored points. You need that guy.

It's true. Kam, he's appeared in 14 games. I think he only has seven starts in his career. Zero passing touch downs.

Zero. Yeah. Zero. So people laugh at Seattle. At least we have Sam Howell. Who would you rather have? Malik Willis or Sam Howell is a backup.

I don't think I'd want Malik Willis over Nathan Peter.

I'd rather Nathan Peter. It's close. As crazy as that sounds, Nathan Petermann versus Willis is a pick-up, and that is a bad pick-up. That's like getting dealt 14, 15 in Blackjack every single hand. These guys suck.

And like, Richard, Andy Richard didn't look great, but he didn't look bad. That's 60-year-old mom in the air. That was crazy when he's falling backwards, the air yards in that. But then he still only had nine completions total, which we said the issue was him throwing the football. But he runs very well. I feel bad for Jonathan Taylor in fantasy because Richard was taking all the carries.

I was like, Can you get the ball in the best time? I had Jonathan Taylor, and as I told you, I had Reid and somebody else on the bench, Drew. Do I have Taylor in your league? No, it's in my other- Yeah, I don't know.

I'm in so many league. I have no idea.

I'm in three. Let's go with the Horseshoe on this one.

Yeah, I agree with you. I think they'll bounce back after that tight game against Houston. All right, the Chargers coming off their big win over the Raiders because Antonio pierce was just like, You know what? Fourth and one from the 43-yard line with six minutes left. I'm going to punt the football down six points.

Classic cowardly behavior.

Yeah, this is like, we roast every coach. And this wasn't him last year. Last year for the Raiders, he was aggressive. What happened to this guy? And then he said, I was playing the field position game. Dude, you're on their side of the field. What are you talking about? They haven't been able to move the ball well against you all the game. And then they go down the field and they score.

Actually, I'll make a semi-apology to one coach. We're roasting coaches for a reason. I thought Numb Nuts on the Saints did a good job. Then again, Carolina gave him the game. So we shouldn't give... That's a high school football team. I'm just saying he didn't give them any extra... What am I going to do, Drew, with my Carolina over five and a half? I might as well just go and hand that ticket to a guy at the liquor store.

You might as well.

It's dead.

Is there a cash out button? Is there a take a $40 loss or whatever it is?

Cash out is going to be like 30 cents the way they played for week one.

Yeah, I don't know, Cam. Carolina plus four and a half.

Actually, I'm seeing six.

No, I got it four and a half, so you're good.

Okay. I'll take chargers of four and I'll read you the graphic.

I'll read you the graphic. Four and a half.

Yeah, you read the graphics, please. I'm seeing six. Well, so I guess everybody... And those 82 % of the public are... Okay. Can you take Carolina?

Yeah, it's five now in the book I'm looking at. So I'm not taking Carolina. Give me LA. This will probably be eight by kickoff.

I'll take the chart. Honestly, what Carolina did to me this weekend, they did me wrong, and it wasn't even that. It killed every teaser that would have won with the other smart stuff we did. I'm done. Give me the lightning bolts. This one's for Jeff Feinberg.

You know, Carolina will come out now and all of a sudden win this football game or something stupid. That's the way the NFL works, but I can't trust it. I cannot bet on it. I will not be betting on this game.

As I'm doing this show, lines are changing right in front of me. I know.

Just listen to what I tell you. This is a Monday. People know the line is going to change, but this is what we got. So don't yell at us when it's a half point different or something like that.

I'm going to settle down. You tell me what the numbers are.

All right. Washington hosting the Giants. Daniel Jones now came. Since he signed his contract, I saw this crazy stat, he now has thrown more pick sixes than touch downs to his own players since he signed his four-year extension. Isn't that wild?

Another thing where I'm going to have to... I didn't realize it was Apology Monday. I've been wrong. I've defended Daniel Jones. How you said I'm going to get to Sean Watson, Drew. I'm going to be in you. You're done with him? We're going to the same place with the Apology, you for Watson, me for Jones. I am done with this SEC, stupid duke, loving dumb hair-cutded punk. I don't care how much. This guy used to be... He could What happened to his skillset? Oh, we got the receiver. You go and draft neighbors and all the other. You have so much damn speed and talent. I get it. Their line's not great. But how is a guy regressing? And he's a great runner. It's amazing to me. Josh Allen, he's like Josh Allen light, but he does everything wrong.

Well, Brian Dable tries to use him like he's Josh Allen, but he's not.

He's not. He doesn't have an arm like Josh Allen.

He threw a pick six on a stream pass.

The guy's an idiot. I'm with you. But what do we do in this game?

I'm taking the Giants. I'm taking the Giants game. What's the line? Three. It's Washington Faire by three at home. I'm taking the Giants here. I like them on the money line in this spot.

I'm taking the Giants, too. And then if they don't cover this game after our little speech, we have to- Washington's defense looked atrocious, and I think Dable can drop enough players to get them open.

I know Minnesota's defense looked really good, but I don't think they're that good. But I think they're better than Washington. You know what, Drew? And Jaden Daniels struggled, looked pretty bad at times. So I'm just going to go with Brian Dable in the offense to figure it out. Otherwise, Daniel Jones is getting benched if he loses this game.

You don't think those paisans in Italy? They already do Danny DeVito lasagna and pasta nights there. The guys in the Italian community, he shows up at bars, Danny DeVito. They love him, right? So the thing is, the minute Jones screws up, Dable is going to go to DeVito, and DeVito will do fine.

He'll just run the offense. He'll do what he's told. He won't try this stupid nonsense.

He actually played well, man. Other than that game in Dallas where they threw him to the wolves in his first ever start on a Thanksgiving on the road. Come on now. That's torture to a guy. Give me the giant as well.

You know his agent with his hat and that trench coat is just like, Hey, you put the DeVito in.

He looks worse than Bookies I'd meet at the Burger King for a Wapper combo. And the other guy I knew with the prosthetic leg, that guy looks fake, Drew.

He looks like If you had to make a sports agent in a comedy and make it funny, it's like, Let's give him a trench coat and a hat. Make him look like he's in a gangsta movie.

You're right. If you go like, Who is the guy who is definitely not the bookie in this scenario? And it's like the local A sleaze bag?

He's the guy pretending to be a gangster.

No, dude, that guy is a sleaze bag. But anyway, he gets money for his client. Giants plus three.

Yeah, I agree with you. We'll see Tommy DeVito eating pizza slices maybe sometime soon. All right, the Raiders going to Baltimore to take on the Ravens. Raiders looked at embarrassing performance against the charters. Ravens coming off a tough loss against the Chiefs. Kim, eight points at home is a lot of points. Do you believe in Lamar and the Ravens to cover this much? That's many points?

This is old school Baltimore. They are going to absolutely kick the living shit out of the Raiders. I remember we went to that game, Drew, when I saw you, when you had a freezer full of meat for me and stuff, and we watched. It was Seattle at Baltimore, and that was that same team, and they murder teams that come in from the West at home, especially coming a loss against a loss against KC. Baltimore by 17 to 24 in this game. I'll lay it.

Yeah, I agree with you, Cam. I think Baltimore is absolutely smoking them, taking them out to the tool shed, whatever you want to say. Coming off a loss, they need this win. Home opener. Everyone's going to be riling them up. And the Raiders just don't have a defense to stop these guys. What's the maximum the Raiders score in Baltimore against this defense?

17?

16. 17? Yeah, fair.

16, 17.

So you need the Raiders to score 27.

Baltimore is good for me. I think Baltimore scores 37 points in this game.

Yeah, I think this is Derek Henry, two shutdowns special. I think we didn't see a lot of Henry against the Chiefs because they were down the whole time. They will not be down in this one. So if you got Derek Henry props, hammer those. Those will be in my props on Thursday for sure. All right, moving on. Dallas hosting the New Orleans Saints coming off their absolute slapping of the Carolina Panthers. Dallas actually put up almost double the Cleveland Browns points, but it was a lot of Deshawn Watson, not as much as Dallas's offense. Their defense did look impressive, though, but take it with a grain of salt because Watson looked like the worst quarter I've ever seen. So, Kam, do you get the Dallas Cowboys, the good version of them or the bad version of them? Is Derek Carr as good as he looked or is he not as good as he looked? You can start this one. 6.5 is a tough number.

I hate the game. I look like an idiot after week one. I remember my Saints play. They've already got to win. That first week hurt me in so many different ways.

Well, no, we said they could start one and eight because Carolina was an easy opponent.

Yeah, you're right. But I expected Carolina to cover or win that game. I'm dumb, okay? Hey, at least our show, we admit when we're stupid, but we do it. I told people not to take Cincinnati for the survivor pick, so cut me some slack, Jack. Give me Dallas minus six. What is it? Six and a half? Under a shutdown? Oh, give me the star. Hey, Saint, now you're going into an environment with a real team. Good luck. Dallas, how many points are they going to score? I'm thinking 31. How many points do the Saints score? I'm thinking 14.

I'm thinking the over in this game, over 45 and a half is a nice bet. I think this game could be 30 to 21. So I'll give me Dallas minus six and a half. I think Saints come back down to Earth after Derek Carr talking trash to Horn on the defense in Carolina. I was like, Let's settle down, bro. You're facing the high school football from here. Let's not be talk. I agree. He's like, Three touch downs. No, we're going to score four touch downs. He's in their face. Okay, let's see if you do that with Micah Parsons is coming around your blindside. Correct. I'm with you. Give me the Dallas Cowets to cover the six and a half and over 45 and a half. All right, Cam, this next one. I think it's easy. I think it's very easy. Okay. Tell me. La Rams going to Arizona, taking the Cardinals. Rams are minus one on the road. This, I will confirm with you, will be in my minerals. I love the Rams minus one here. If anything, stop me anything, Kyler Murri, shits the bed against LA Rams, Cam, when he plays them. So give me the Rams, get in there and stomp I think it's going to be Kyron Williams running all over them.

Cooper Cupp catching alone. Arizona's defense is just absolute garbage, Cam. So I don't think they can keep up with LA.

I'm going to be... I have a different approach to this game. I actually like Arizona. I like what I saw in the first half of the game, it's Buffalo. I think that total... I'll tell you something, Betta over right now because both teams aren't going to be stopped. I don't think the Rams defense can stop Arizona.

They helped Detroit and check pretty well.

Arizona at home is a different beast. Remember, these guys beat Dallas and stuff last year. They play really good at home. I'm going to tell you, Drew, this game is not as easy as you think. I might change it, but give me cheap only one, because I'm only getting one chirp with the Cardinals. I'm going to take the Cardinals as my... He's not really an underdog bird. He's only a very small underdog bird. One wing plus one?

Is that what I'm getting? What's Kyler Murray's record against the Rams in his career?

I'm going to say one and seven.

Oh, you nailed it.

He's one and seven. That's off the top of my head, bro.

I can't believe this. You tell me you didn't have that in front of you.

I swear to God, Drew, I'd never lie to you. I bet on the Carolina Panthers this week. I don't lie. One and seven was my number. It just popped into my head. Can I go to the casino now? Cut my mic. I'm out the door. You're getting back in the car. We're gone. Bye.

He is one and seven against the Rams in his career with eight touch downs total in the eight games. He struggles against him.

That's why I love this. All struggling. He is struggling. But you know what, Drew? This could be changed.

Did you see Marvin Harrison wide open for the game-winning countdown? By like 30 yards, nobody anywhere near him. And Kyler Murray is just too short to see over his offensive line. I don't see anybody. And just took the sack.

I'm glad I got that guy out of my fantasy line. I wanted to get half a point.

Yeah, it wasn't great. Okay, where do you think mystery tiebreaker man is on this one?

Rams.

Correct. So you know what? I'm tiebreakers.

Thank you, Drew. Anything else to say about the tie breakers, or should we move on?

No, we'll move on. The Stealers came going to Denver to take on the Broncos. The Broncos are plus three underdogs at home. You love home dogs. You love making horse noises. But tell me why you don't love the Broncos this I don't love the Broncos this week, but I'm torn.

Drew, don't you find this to be the toughest game? Because Pittsburgh did us really well with Atlanta going on the road, and Denver, they went to Seattle, and either you covered by a half with Denver or you covered by a half with Seattle. It was a very good line by the sportsbook. Bo Nicks at home with the crowd behind him and stuff. I don't think it's going to be that. You know what? I like Denver plus three in this spot. I have a feeling we might change six games, but ladies and gentlemen, all the games that I change, I originally like Jacksville and went to Miami for some God knows reason. So when I change, bad things happen. But give me three bucking Broncos against the Stealers. Just because the Stealers were good to us one week doesn't mean they give it and they could take it away. Our horse, he broke his hoof last week, but this week he's going wire to wire. Give me the three with Denver. I know, Drew. It's not that easy, though.

I love Pittsburgh in this spot, Kam. You're giving me Mike Tomlin against a rookie quarterback. Listen, Seattle's defense is decent. It is not as good as the Stealers' Stealers' defense is better than Seattle's. O'nicks, rookie going against this front. T. J. Watt should have had three sacs in that game. Two of them were called back, two of them were fumbles. And one of them was they called outside, and the ref apologized to him after. He was like, Sorry, man, that wasn't outside. I called the wrong flag. T. J. Watt was like, Dude, there was a sack fumbling. You called it outside. Yeah. Give me Pittsburgh to absolutely stomp O'Nicks. I don't think he can move the football against this team, Kam. This game has low scoring written all over it. What are you thinking here? 17, 14, 17, 10?

I'm thinking Pittsburgh wins 21, 20 at the most.

Oh, you think it'll be that high score?

Or 14, 13. I think Denver might cover- Okay.

The total is 36 and a half. It's very low.

But 17, 14 is a push. That's 31. The total is 37. So 21:20 is barely over. I don't know. This guy... No, Drew, I have a weird score, like a 19:17, where Pittsburgh wins and Denver covers by one for me. That's my number.

I'm thinking 17:03, Steeler's win. That's my guess.

You got big stones, buddy. That's why you got two kids.

Where do you think Mr. Tiebreaker Man is on this one?

He's going with Pittsburgh all day and all night.

Your first incorrect one of the week, damn.

See what happens when you get cocky, Drew?

I don't know why. I was surprised when he sent to Denver as well. It It doesn't make sense to me, but he's a Chiefs fan. Well, he's not a Chiefs fan.

I thought, you know this guy. He has to go with Pittsburgh. I'm actually shocked. You tricked me.

All right. Kc, Hosting the Bangles. We know Mahomes struggles against the Bangles in his career, burrowed as well against the Chiefs. Everyone's overreacting to the Bangles losing to the Patriots, and now they're now plus six in KC. If the bangles win that game against the Patriots, this game is probably what, Cam, you think three?

Yeah. And it's now six. I have a feeling, Drew, the way the bangles played, we might get a full touch down here. What are we getting, Roni, right now? Six. Anyway, who cares? Cincinnati, I think they overlooked New England, slept walking, and we're thinking about this game with KC. As for KC, they're better than they were last year. Are we idiots betting against We will soon find out. But I'm taking the loser, Bingo's, that screwed up everybody's survivor but me. But still, I had them in money line parlays with Seattle and other things and Detroit that would have paid nice, and they screwed it up. So you know what, bangles? Screw you. But I'm coming back to you this week because of me and the chiefs. Hey, the chiefs have been good to you. You bet them last week and they cover. But I want Cincinnati plus six because I'm an absolute stooge.

No, Cam, I'm on your side, too. I think everyone's overreacting. Oh, you're a stooge, too. The two of them So we're acting, Cam. I think Burro looked like trash, but then his guys fumbled and everything. And for some reason, the homes and these guys struggled against the bangles. And it's the regular season. It was the playoff, so maybe I lean KC here. But Burro, three in one lifetime against the Chiefs. You're giving me six points with them. I just have to blindly take it because I think this line is three points or four points different than it would have been if the bangles pulled out. You know what? You're right.

I actually might make this a minerals pick as dumb as I am, but I'm with you. I don't think it's that dumb. Give me the bangles. What are we going to do with these next two games? Oh, Lord, help us.

The Chicago Bear is going to Houston take on the Texans. The Texans in their home opener with their new look offense, all their weapons. They're six and a half point favorites. The bear is coming off their crazy come back against the Titans, where Caleb Williams threw for just 98 yards, passing zero touch downs. Swift had only 35 yards rushing. The bear's offense looked atrocious, but Houston's defense did not look good against the Indianapolis Colts camp either. So I don't know. It's a lot of points.

What does Chicago do, really? I know. So we cover... Tennessee, the fact that we didn't win, it's true. They muffed the punt. They were covered and scored points. Then their kicker hit two monster kicks. And they blocked a punt return for a touch down, too. Yes, they blocked that. Tennessee should have won the game by 14 or more, let alone lost by seven. So that was one of the worst giveaways ever. I'm going to go with Houston here, and I'm not happy to do this because I like taking points. You know what? Let's call it out for what it is. The bears were lucky. They're so fucking lucky in that game against Tennessee. Houston was actually not great in their game, too. So you know what? I think they have to How about Houston by 10 in this game? I know these plus points are attractive, man.

I know. Every time he's like, You should take the bears. You should take the bears. I don't like this game. 70 % was already on the bears early, which means I think if you wait-You mean they're on the Titans early?

70 %, not bears.

No, right now I'm looking. 70 % are on the bears. Or on the Texans. You're right. They're on the Texans. You're right.

They have a nap.

It says Texans right here. You're right. There you go. So it's making me lean bears. But I think because of that, this line can get to seven or eight.

Drew, as I'm doing this live, it just flipped from six and a half to seven, but I go with your line. So I still got... Am I getting six and a half?

I just said by Thursday, it could get seven, seven and a half. Well, you're a real...

See, you just had a power nap. You're back. Give me Houston, Texas minus six and a half. Do it, Drew. Do it. We'll switch it together. I'll make you a deal because I have a feeling this game might get switched. I hate big favorites. Look at this. This was the number. If you got Seattle at five and a half, you cover. If you got them at six and a half, you lose by the hook. Six and a half is a tough number.

That's why we got Seattle five and a half on the show. All right, give me the Houston Texans, six and a half, Kam. You know what? They can win this game by a countdown, I think so. I don't think Keela Williams has what it takes to keep up with them. But then again, I didn't think Anthony Richardson. Well, I had the Colts plus three and a half. Whatever. I'm just talking myself into nonsense here. Monday night football, Atlanta going to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles. Kirek Cousin's in prime time. Never been great, Kam, and he did not look good against the Steelers on Sunday. His Achilles did not look healthy. He couldn't even plant on his back foot, or his front foot, which is bad news, bears. Kim, six points is a lot of points, though.

I'm with you.

You know what?

Give me Frank Falcon. And I'm going to tell you, he was not impressive in the first week. But that's the thing. This is what I love, Drew. This is actually working out to our favor. Oh, Atlanta. Look at these guys. Their division is so weak. And then all of a sudden, I thought the Saints were going to be junk. Oh, the Saints. See the way they murdered Carolina? It's one week to one week. So everyone's down in Atlanta. Philadelphia beat Green Bay. Oh, let's remember, they're coming back from Brazil and getting acclimated back to Philadelphia. Did you say you're taking the Eagles? I'm taking the Falcons. That's what I'm doing.

I'm taking Atlanta. I thought I heard you say you're taking the Eagles. Like a minute ago.

I did not say... No, I said, Philadelphia is coming back from Brazil. Do you need a whisper 2002 on top of all the other things that we're talking about? Give me Atlanta plus six and a half in the Battle of the Birds. I want the underdog bird.

We did see against Green Bay, the Eagle secondary. It looked like it still had the same issues. Wasn't that great? Their front four is very good, though, which worries me with- But Cousins might get murdered. Yes, that's what worries me, Cam. But Cousins last year against Philadelphia, I had 364 yards passing and four touch downs and a loss. So he can throw it on these guys. It's a primetime worries me.

Drew, I got something for you that you're going to like. Take a look down at the consensus form right now early. It's early and things can balance out, but seeing over eight to one on the Eagles. That makes me even more happy to take- You're right.

Alarm bills are ringing. Eighty % is on the eagles and the lines. So you know what? We're going with the dirty bird. They look bad. We're going with them on Monday night. Give me the dirty birds, Cam.

I got a lot of birds in my repertoire this week.

Yeah, I Everyone's going to be off Atlanta. Everyone's on the eagles.

No one wants to- I think I like every bird. I think I have Seahawks. I have Cardinal. I have Raven. I have... Oh, my God. I do. But I can't take both birds, and I have a broken wing with Frank Falcon over the eagle. Yeah. He's a medded eagle.

I'm trying to think if you have any other birds.

You don't have- There's no other bird. What's the other bird? There are no other birds. Those are every bird in the league.

All right, Cam. We're getting to our best bets. Our best bets of the week are Bronze, Silver, and gold. Would you Would you like me to start with My Bronze? Yes, I would, Drew. I'd love it. My Bronze is the LA Rams, who are seven and one against Kyler in his career. I think they make that eight and one. I think they absolutely stomped them. This line is incorrect. It should be five or six. It is only one. Give me the Rams as my Bronze selection.

I'm going to go with the Randy the Raven, Baltimore, my first selection of birds. I know it's a lot of points. What am I doing, Drew? Is it under... What did you say, eight? Eight, eight, eight, eight, eight. Do you want to give me a six? Can I make it a triple mineral? That's the street book.

That's from Tommy DeVito's agent. His agent will give you a six.

If it was Streetbook, what's your bronze? Baltimore. What's your silver? Baltimore. What's your gold? Baltimore. But I'll take Baltimore. I'll take some spaghetti.

What are you giving me?

Is it seven and a half or eight? It's eight. Okay. See me trying to play games with you? Eight.

I'll still take it. He's trying to buy the points. I see.

Give me the Ravens and quote me nevermore8.

Yeah. My Silver Selection Cam is once again on Thursday night. The Buffalo Bills are 12 and one against Tua in his career. Give me the Bills plus two and a half. I will take them anytime they're an underdog against the Miami Dolphins because they have owned the Dolphins since Alan has been in town. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. The Dolphins are now the Kings of the Division. I just don't think it's time for that. Mike McDaniel struggles with the Dolphins in his career. So give me the bills to win this outright. It's plus two and a half. I'll take plus two and a half.

The bills were going to be my fourth mineral, but we only have three on the show. Maybe one day we'll create a new mineral. I'm going to go with the Cleveland Browns at plus four against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Nobody let us down other than the Bengals, the Browns. Isn't it funny, Drew? Teams from Ohio just Absolutely kick you in the nuts. But anyway, I'll take Cleveland plus four against the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think everyone's going to love the Jags this week. Cleveland was brutal, but too many points. Give me Cleveland plus four, Silver.

I'm between two picks right I don't know what to do.

I don't know either. That's the problem. The one I think about too much is going to be wrong.

I'm between the Titans and the 49ers. I don't know what Jets we're going to get yet, though, so I can't make them my gold. I really want to, though, with their defense, but I'm not going back to the well. Give me the 49ers 49ers is my goal. I think they go into Minnesota and absolutely stomp them by 20 plus points. So yeah, love the 49ers minus five gold.

I don't know what the hell to do either. I'm confused between... I can't make this team my goal.

I thought you were taking the bangles as one of your minerals.

Oh, my God. Am I going to do this? I'm narrowing it down to three. It's either Giants against Washington, bangles versus Chiefs, or Frank Falcon versus Eddie the Eagle.

I don't know which- I don't like that one. I don't like that one. I would be bangles or a giant.

Making the bangles my gold pick against Kansas City is basically like you're letting a hobo move into your house in the Simpsons.

He locks the door. Go with Danny DeVito's team then, baby.

Yeah, it's like Homer Simpson. I gave my house to the carnies. I'm betting on the bangles against the Chiefs? Am I an idiot? I am. Give me the bangles plus six because know what? Misery loves company, and I just... What's the definition?

I love it. Overreaction week one. Everyone is calling you stupid.

But through the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results every time we bet against the Chiefs. It's a recipe for a nightmare. Not when they're playing this team, though, Cam. You're right. The bangles always cover against the Chiefs. It's the only thing we know. What about the Giants? Don't you like the Giants?

I love the Giants. I would have leaned the Giants there.

Can we add Minerals next? Can we have a bonus Mineral? Anyway, we'll just tell us our fourth favorite game next week.

My fourth favorite game is probably Pittsburgh against Denver.

My Pittsburgh is probably... No, I like Denver. So give me Cincinnati, please. That'll be my pick.

Yeah, I don't mind Houston. So whatever.

I got Baltimore, Cincinnati, and Cleveland.

I was trying to go Seattle and New England minus three.

I can't do... Oh, my God. I got all the teams from one division. I got Cleveland, Baltimore, and Cincinnati.

Yeah, you're right. The AFC North, Carly.

That's my theme this week, the AFC North and a bounce back.

You're John Snow, Cam. You know who that is? John Snow. You know who that is? Yes.

You're such an idiot. You're the best.

I don't know if you watch Game of Thrones. You don't seem like a fancy- I just know it because I know other people who tell me about it.

Trust me, I do not watch shows with fucking dragons, lizards.

What's wrong with dragons and lizards?

No other thing is, I don't mind like, comic books. I actually don't mind. I watch cartoons and stuff. I watch Superman, Batman. I'm down. I do not watch no Dragons, no castles, no chain mail, no jousting. Basically, nothing that I get at medieval times except for eating a fucking big leg of turkey with my hands and drinking wine in a big goblet. I'm a glutton.

You're a true crime guy. You're like, oh. Oh, I watch all true crime. There was a seven-person murder in Nashville. You're like, oh.

You're watching it in bed in the Niagara Falls. I'm like, I've seen this one already. Let's go back to the fucking casino.

How can you fall I'm going to leave to watching murder mystery? That would clean me out.

It's soothing, Drew. Just a nice hot knife through your back.

It's like my wife watches all those doctor shows on TV, and anytime I see a paper heart surgery and stuff, I'm like, I can't watch this.

Drew, that's where we agree. I'll dry the line. My girlfriend's actually the same, and we don't agree on it. She hates doctor shows other than house. No loser, Hey, I'm a doctor that figured this stuff out. No surgeries, no good doctor. I think he is going to be okay. I don't want to watch this stuff. It sucks. Sorry, I don't like it.

Yeah, my wife's Grey's Anatomy. I'm sorry. No, you don't.

Any show with MD in it? What's that show that's Grey's Anatomy? It's still on television? That's my wife's favorite.

My wife's like, Oh, my God.

That show I know it should be banned. It's so bad.

Hey, there's new love stories every week. It's your wife's favorite show. Now she hates me. There was a plane crash, and one of them survived, I remember. And she was performing CPR on someone. I was like, We're in a plane crash. How are you walking right now?

Yeah, your plane crashed. Yet all of a sudden, we just bring in the paddles. Yeah, okay. It sounds good.

Yeah. Double- Oh, a survivor pick.

You're done. I'm done.

I'm done. Bangles killed me. If I had to pick this week, it would be the Ravens. But I don't have a pick. I'm out.

You can pick mine if you want.

No, I'll re-buy on the show.

Could you be my partner? At least help me with mine? Yeah, yeah. What about the- What about the- Oh, dude, I almost want to take the charges against the Panthers, but my luck, the Panthers, that'd be their only win. I like the Ravens, too. Give it the Ravens. But I wanted to save them, but it's just too obvious. You know what I've learned about survivor, Drew? You want to take those mid- spreads, like the threes and the fours.

Like at Seattle, five and a half since- Dallas wouldn't be a bad survivor this week.

You know what? Put Baltimore in for me now, and things can change on you. Dude, we got four days to figure this thing out.

Or you take Indy against Malik Willis. That's a risky one.

I don't take... No, no, no. No road team like that. That's too difficult. But Baltimore, and I like where you're going. But I'll tell... Baltimore. Just give me Baltimore. All right.

Well, that doesn't- That's my wife's favorite show.

I'm like, That show should be banned.

It's true. She also likes the Bachelor and Bachelor, and I like- I don't watch that.

My girlfriend doesn't mind. Actually, she's more into the housewives of Never.

That's the worst.

No, I thought it's Brain Dead TV or the ones on the yacht where everyone's banging each other and the captain gets mad. Oh, yeah, below deck. She just told me. She goes, I love below deck. You know what I love? I don't love below deck.

I'd love to own one of those.

I like to stay above the deck. Yes, exactly.

All right. That does it for our week 2 Picks show, the Monday version. Good luck tonight on Monday Night Football. Props I like, Juan Jennings' catches over. Brees Hall catches in yards over, and Tyler Conklin, anytime, countdown, Cam. I like the tight end. Conklin.

The carnies. You're going to the Conklin Carnival. I love Brees Hall as well. What? That's what it's called. They're called Conklin. You know those carnies that rip you off in games at the CNE? That's the company they work for. It's called Conklin. But anyway, another lesson that you didn't know because you're young. Give me Riesal everything. What does that do with age?

What does that do with my age. I don't look at the brand name.

Yes, it does. If you're older, you know it's Conklin Carnival.

Yeah, but you're saying the guys that run those like ghetto, like basket, throw the ball game?

Yes, they work for a company called Conklin. It's got like a scary clown on their logo. But anyway, why don't you go to the chat and figure out who knows what Conklin is? And any guy over 40 will know. And any person under 38 or whatever probably says this fucking reddit guy is nuts.

Yeah, fair enough. All right. Good luck tonight to the 49ers because me and Cam are both on them. Hopefully, they win this game and cover the number.

I'm going to snap for changing the pick.

You can blame me, Cam. We will see you on Thursday for our updated picks, our props, our anytime touch down stuff. And hopefully, we'll put together an anytime TV parlay this weekend. We forgot to do it, the four guys. You're tight-end one. It didn't come close, but hopefully, you come closer.

You mean 0 for 4? Yeah.

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