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Thanks for having me.

So you have to be not ha. You are the number one requested return guest we've ever had. Crazy last episode, actually, it was two episodes, right? We dove into Benghazi, some of the corruption behind it, and took off like a bat out of hell. It was insane to see that growth. And then we got censored.

Welcome to my life.

Yeah, right. So I don't know why we got censored, but, you know, anyways, we can't rank for your name. It's really odd. You know, for those that are listening, if you go to YouTube, you can type in Sarah Adams Shawn Ryan show and it's like, I don't know, 30 pages down the line, can't even find it. You literally have to go to the channel to find it. So we're gonna call you by your old call sign over at CIA, which is super bad. Super bad. So if you're looking for this on YouTube, it's under super bad. Now, hopefully they don't censor this one. I don't know why they would have censored the last one.

Yeah, well, if they censor the last one, they will censor this one.

I know, right? Yeah, but we don't get censored on audio, so that's awesome. But yeah. So couple things since the last one, it's have developed. We're going to talk all about. We're going to talk about a lot of things, but you are still tracking a lot of the terrorist organizations. We're going to talk about who's coming up through the southern border, what you think they're doing inside the US, a lot of the ISIS stuff. And, and it's going to be. I know you have some very pertinent information that needs to be released and, man, I just can't wait to dig into it. But I got a couple. I got a question for you.

Sure.

So did you read the comments on our last interview?

So I know some of the comments because I have an all male team at work, and they spit out random lines from the comments now to me, and I realize, oh, that must be a comment under the Sean Ryan YouTube video. So I've heard many of them.

Lots of questions. I think the number one question for males is, are you single?

Love it.

I've never seen so many marriage proposals in a YouTube comment.

Yeah. I mean, I can't believe the age I am. Have yet to have a marriage proposal. But they all came on YouTube, apparently. So I'm single, but as you know, I'm married to my terrorist, and I'm tracking my terrorist, and that's a priority in my life. I don't have time for foolishness.

You don't have time for dating, Pen. Got it. Got it. Well, sorry, fellas. That's a heartbreaker. But. But anyways, you don't really need an introduction because you've been on here before. But I'm going to give you one anyways. So you are the co author of Benghazi Know Thy Enemy, a cold case investigation, former CIA officer during the libyan crisis, before, during and after 911 attacks. Counterterrorism analyst and CIA targeter. Senior advisor on the select committee of Benghazi. So am I missing anything?

No. I mean, pretty much everyone knows what I do at this point. Yep.

Yep. The word is out, but yes. So last time you came on, I gave you a gift.

Yes.

Was the laird superfoods performance mushrooms.

Okay. Let's see what we got here.

This time. It's something a little different.

Oh, yes. Nice. Ooh. Of course. A sticker. That's very good. Whenever you can get free promos.

But the good stick.

Yeah. Thank you.

There you go.

And what people don't know is I went home with gummy bears last time, and they were also delicious.

That's right.

But since everybody gets a gift on the show. This is from Boone and I. Oh, man.

No way.

Yes. And we like that one because it's kind of like the targeting one.

Oh, dude. Thank you.

I hope you enjoy.

This is. This is awesome.

Yeah.

I might frame this. Put it in the museum. Here.

Go for it, man.

That's all. Thank you so much.

But just don't do it with a big picture of my face. That would be very weird.

I promise I won't.

Thank you.

But real quick. So you know this. We have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. They're the reason I get to sit here and you get to sit here. And they've been with us since the beginning. So one of the things I do is I offer them a question in the interview. And so we got a couple of good ones here. The first one is from Leo, and his question is, what type of attacks and locations do you foresee these terrorists choosing?

Sure. Well, hi, Leo. Thanks for reaching out. Now, the interesting part is, I don't think a lot has changed on what terrorists want to attack. Right. Like, they want to hit soft targets. They want to embarrass governments or whomever their enemy is. Right. And they want to make a lot of things seem it was inspired by them. Right. Even just in the last couple weeks, we've seen lone wolf videos come out from al Qaeda, then al Qaeda and the arab peninsula, and ISIS. Right. And they're like, hey, go do things inspired by us. So they still want to kind of get a lot of people involved to kind of, like, plus up their numbers, right. And make them seem bigger than they are and more powerful than they are. Another thing I think we really need to stay focused on, too, is attacks on embassies and consulates. The terrorists have seen. Hey, that's a quick and easy way to push the US government out of a location. And so I think that's gonna be. Go back to the old days, like, we saw some big ones in the nineties, and I think they're probably planning now the same type of thing.

Do you think any. Are there any specific embassies you think they're gonna target?

Yes.

Do you wanna say?

I think one is the us embassy in Bamako in Mali, and then I think the other one is on the saudi peninsula.

Why do you think that?

Because they are working on it. They are working on.

Roger that. Roger that. You had mentioned the lone wolf videos, what came out recently. What specific lone wolf videos are you referring to?

Yeah, it's just basically the different terrorist groups saying, hey, go do attacks. They're inspired by us. More popular ones that's out right now is ISIS put one out to do with the Paris Olympics. So they said, hey, go to where crowds are in Paris. We don't care if you use a knife. We don't care if you use a vehicle, like, cause havoc and attack these crowds surrounding the Olympic events. So they're asking people to just go do things. And then obviously, they're probably planning things, too. So they want to have a large number of attacks. If they can bring in these inspired.

People, where are they sending out this messaging?

Most of it goes on in telegram. Is the best place to get at least ISIS messaging.

Okay. Okay. Wow. The next question is from Brody. In your opinion, are we more likely to suffer an attack on infrastructure, like power grid, water supply, etcetera, or an attack on human life or soft targets?

Yeah.

What group is most likely to and has the resources to pull off such an attack?

Sure, Brody, you did us wrong in Homeland. But I'll answer your question anyway. Have you seen Homeland?

No.

It's, like, the best show anyway, so, yeah, Brody just becomes, like, a bad guy, that's all. And then the Iranians hang him. So, sorry if you haven't seen the tv show. I just ruined Brody for you. But anyway, so it's almost two different things, right? Like, the terrorists focus on the soft targets. It's almost like the nation state and the near peer who focus on what we'd call the infrastructure, the power grid, et cetera. So it's actually two very different threats, but they're both very active threats, right? Because, like, let's say if we were gonna go to war with China, well, if they have now taken control of large portions of our electric grid, large portions of our ports. Right. They can shut all that down and prevent us from responding to situations. So it's like, you almost have to look at terrorism in a different lens. Right, when you kind of look at the nation state level. So I do think both are a threat, but they're from different actors.

Makes sense. Makes sense. All right, let's get into the interview, then. I know you have a lot to cover. I have personal questions from you and or for you, but actually, we did forget to talk about the newsletter, so I just love the information. I guess that sounds. I don't love the information, but you're one of the only people that are out there reporting real info on some of the threats that we face and about the terrorist organizations. So we spoke last night at dinner, and you're gonna be given a down and dirty intel brief on all things terrorists in the Sean Ryan show newsletter. So if you guys are interested and you want to keep up to date on what Sarah's tracking and some of the stuff going on within the terrorist world, sign up for the Shawn Ryan show newsletter.

Yeah, I'm excited about it. I mean, I joke a lot about terrorism, but obviously it is a serious threat. And we do have a major problem getting information out on what the terrorists are doing right now.

Yeah. Yeah. So when we reconnected, well, we've always kind of stayed connected. But you had brought up, we were kind of talking about all the terrorists that are coming up through the southern border and maybe even the northern border. But there was a. There was. I mean, you've been tracking these guys. You know, they're coming across. We had spoken about how some of these organizations are becoming friendlies who, who in the past years have been kind of rivals or not friends with each other, grouping together to become a common enemy. You had brought up the fact that a lot of these organizations are now training in urban warfare overseas, which we had spoke offline about, that you thought that was going to become a threat to the embassies. Now here we are. And so let's just talk about. Let's start with how are these organizations and which ones are becoming allies?

Sure. Yeah. The really interesting thing is the terrorists have been coming together for a long time. We just really hadn't been collecting it, because how the US government works is all the terrorist groups are in a bucket. Right? So this is ISIS. ISIS people work ISIS. This is al Qaeda. Al Qaeda people work ISIS. This is Hamas. Really? No one worked Hamas and nobody was working cross functionally. Like, hey, how are these terrorists sharing monetary resources? How are they doing joint training? A really good example is now these Hamas attacks just happened in October. Right? Well, a large number of the terrorists at that attack trained in southern Afghanistan. They were in Aruzgan and Kandahar, at al Qaeda camps in the months prior to the Hamas attack. So if we had been collecting on, what's al Qaeda doing in southern Afghanistan? Why are all these palestinian terrorists in Afghanistan? This is very strange. You know, we might have been able to get ahead of an attack like that, but because we put them in buckets, nobody thinks Hamas would go to Afghanistan to train, right? Because they're like, well, they're not aligned with al Qaeda and, oh, they're Shia and they're Iran.

And people ignore the fact that al Qaeda and Iran have been super close because it's Iran in addition to Pakistan, where all the al Qaeda senior leaders stayed these last 20 years when we were hunting them or trying to hunt them unsuccessfully inside Afghanistan. Right. The terrorists have been coming together. We've just failed to notice it. And then, you know, we talk a lot about, in Libya, al Qaeda and ISIS came together because they had a mutual enemy, which was the libyan national army. And actually, just a couple months ago, one of our most senior terrorists from the Benghazi attacks, his name is Hashim Abu Sidra, was detained in Libya. The interesting part is it hasn't made the us press. But you know, what's really interesting about him at the time he was detained he was the head of ISIS in Libya, and he was the head of the operational side of al Qaeda in Libya. So see how this is now against narratives, right. He was basically the operational head of two groups that you're told don't work together.

Whoa. How are you getting this information, if you don't mind me asking?

I mean, you know, we've been working in Libya for nine years. We have, obviously, a lot of relationships. We are kind of the only ones who work Benghazi. So we actually have a lot of people even just proactively reach out to us now, too, and say, hey, you know, here's what's happening. So he's detained. He's actually a forthcoming detainee. He's providing a lot of info. The really interesting part is, from what I'm hearing, is they're only focusing his detainee debriefings on ISIS. They're not at all discussing the al Qaeda side, which is fascinating because, you know, when he did our Benghazi attacks, he was, of course, al Qaeda, and he was leading, actually, one of the big battalions of AQIm at our attacks. So it's kind of interesting to even see, in a foreign country, al Qaeda is being downplayed and how they're collecting and how they're talking about a terrorist.

Wow. Do you think the government has rectified that? That segmenting people into this ISIS? This is al Qaeda? This is Taliban?

Of course not, Hazel.

Hamas. It's still compartmentalized?

100%.

Man, that's a real shame. Wow. Well, how are you tracking these guys coming up through the southern border?

Sure. So I think we should take a step back from the southern border. Right. Because almost when they get to the border, it's too late.

Okay.

Because the border's wide open. So I think we should start where they're coming from or who's enabling them along the way. Right. So, like, the three key I call exit points are, like, India, Turkey, and Iran. Right? So, basically, all these people are going to those locations. So, like, the Africans, they're coming up through Africa using TikTok, which is crazy. So the Chinese and the Africans are actually using TikTok, and it's routing them to the southern border. So TikTok's, like, this human trafficking smuggling application right now that people don't actually understand, but that's how they're making their movements, using TikTok.

So, anyway, they're going to elaborate on that a little bit. What do you mean, they're making their movements through TikTok?

Yeah. So TikTok is telling them how to do the routing. So it's like, how do you get through this city? How do you get to this country? How do you cross this border? How do you get a visa to this country? Where do you catch a flight to get to South America? When you get to South America, what routes do you take? Where do you go to get aid or medical? Where like the friendly ngo's that'll assist you. Like all that type of stuff is inside and being used in TikTok. And they're using this as their routing feature.

Wow.

Almost like we would use like ATak.

Yeah. Wow. Do you think we should, I mean, this has been recently in the news. Do you think we should ban TikTok?

I think we should ban tic tac. Cause it's a collect, it's a spy collection platform. So I would never put TikTok on my phone, but I think focusing on TikTok when we have way bigger issues, I have a problem with. Right. Because honestly, that's not our biggest issue right now. Right. Biggest issue is like, close the damn border. Right. It's not that TikTok's bringing them through the borders. You're letting them through the border.

Yeah, that's a good point.

So, yeah, so most terrorists are leaving from Turkey, India and Iran. And the really interesting part is, even in India, one of the planes basically through France. I don't know if you saw this in Paris. And Paris is like, who? All these random people on this plane, why are they in our country? And the plane got like held on like the tarmac and everything. Because it was just a plane of illegals going to South America. So that's the one side of the problem. The other side of the problem is the countries in South America giving visas or just allowing these people in. Right. So it's Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama. They're giving visas to all these people traveling in. And what a lot of people don't know is Ecuador allows chinese citizens to come in without a visa. So all the Chinese, like the 6000 increase percent at the border, they came in to Ecuador and then came up because they don't even need to get a visa. Any chinese person can go to Ecuador right now. So we need to stop these countries in Latin America from, first, we got to stop that policy. Right?

Like they need a visa from China. And second, we got to tell these countries, hey, you're getting aid from the US. You know, you're our southern neighbors. Like, why are you enabling this and allowing these people, which you know are coming to our border. So that's what we have to do while we're waiting for our own morons and our own government to, like, close a border in somewhere. At least if we could stop the pipeline farther down, it would help in some way.

Yeah. Are you familiar with the Darien gap at all?

Yeah. Remember we chatted about it last time? Yeah. And I saw that you had. Yeah. My friend Rick, that's a good friend of his that came on your show.

Really?

Yeah.

Michael Yan.

Yep.

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Well, I mean, it's kind of like what I said, like, even when I said like the Tic tac routing. So there's a lot of NGO's in place along these routes, right, to assist the migrants. But as you can imagine, the humanitarian assistance is also then giving these like the illegals and even some of the bad guys going through, it's benefiting them, right. Because now they're safe routing, now they can do it quicker, right. It's almost like they have a cover, right. Because they almost are associated now with an NGO which changes the situation. So the NGO's inherently then are helping to increase or helping to improve this ratline into the United States. So they're actually almost like working against us even though they're trying to do the right thing and just help people on the way. But it's becoming as you can imagine, it makes it easier and it makes more people want to go through because they know there's these security blankets along the way.

Do you think they're doing, do you think these NGO's are doing this on purpose or do you think this is incompetence?

I think it's a mix of things. I think a lot's incompetence. So even if you just look at the evacuation from Kabul, right, they say, oh, it's the most successful. We took out 120,000 people. We took out a 120,000 of the wrong people, right? There's like 70,000 people. We don't know who they are. And they're there because there's these NGO's affiliated with State Department, right? And they wanted to save a bunch of humans and they're like, come to the airport, you don't even need id, bring like an electricity bill. So it's almost like this white savior complex. I know that sounds really bad. And they just almost care about numbers, right. Then, hey, are we bringing in the right people? Are we taking care of the right people? You know, are these people dangerous to bring into our community? Like they're not thinking through that, right. They just want to say, oh, yeah, we help 500 people, donors give us more money, and it's almost like this broken system.

Yeah. Wow. When it comes to, you know, we're talking about Chinese, you know, flying into Ecuador. Coming up. Are you, are you more concerned about the Chinese than you are the terrorist organizations coming into this country?

I'm concerned about them in separate ways. Like they're equal threats. Right. Because the problem with China is these people are loyal to China, right. Like, it's a different society than we live in. Right. Like you and I can sit here and bash our government all day long and we mean it, right. The Chinese don't really do that and they don't all feel that way. Right. So now there's all these people loyal to them in our country. So if something happens, they're at the ready and they will choose their government over our government. And people need to actually understand that. Right. The terrorists, right, are their own thing and the terrorists are their own threat. It's just a different way. Right. They'll probably more take direction from the terrorist group to do x, Y and Z to do something. But a lot of people don't realize if someone is willing to commit a crime to come into the country, they're involved in other crimes. And we always try to say this about our terrorists, right. They're involved in things like money laundering, obviously, we know, in drugs, a lot of child exploitation. We had another Benghazi attacker detained in October who actually we thought was dead because he was reportedly killed in the us drone strike.

He wasn't. The battle damage assessment by the us military is horrible in Libya anyway. He was captured for basically raping a child. So a lot of people don't need to understand that terrorists are criminals and they are involved in a bunch of other crimes. And so, like I said, we need to view all this as criminal activity.

How are you getting the information of them coming up through the southern border?

Well, one thing is a lot of them just show up in the border, as you can imagine. So we luckily have the counters. The problem is the us government skewing those numbers, right. So when there's a counters at the border, they do kind of like latin american other, like, they don't have it listed by country. So you can't go and look and be like, oh, a thousand Egyptians came, 2000 Syrians came, etcetera. So we're obviously concerned with the terrorists leaving Afghanistan because what has happened is, as we talked about last time, is, you know, the Taliban is issuing these passports to terrorists and they're doing two different things. So one is they're just sending fighters, trained fighters they actually don't have. It's not like the old days, you trained in your little cell, and your cell is going to be deployed, and you're going to do attack. Al Qaeda now is just training them and then forward deploying them. And then the interesting part is they are forward deploying senior al Qaeda members who will then guide them when they're ready. So al Qaeda has taken guys that have been in al Qaeda for 20 years, giving them afghan passports.

So let's say they took an egyptian as a good example. He has now an afghan passport, and they deploying them to the US, the Middle east and Europe. And then now they're going to be kind of like the command central for then the terrorists who've all been trained, and then they'll tell them what to do. So I think that's like a really interesting thing. Like, we have a change in the terrorist tactics. You're not gonna see the cell doing things as you always saw in the past. So I think people need to understand that. And then the other thing is, before.

We move on, what are they training on is this. I mean, when we would see their training camps before, when the wars were both kicking, it was physical endurance. It was urban kind of warfare. It was, you know, shooting. What kind of stuff are they training on now? Do you have any insight into that?

Sure, if we just focus on the al Qaeda camps. So in Afghanistan right now, there's 30 al Qaeda training camps. Seven of them are suicide bomber only. So seven of them, you're only in it to be a suicide bomber. The rest of them, it's just your standard. Like I said, there is an urban warfare camp, which I think is for a specific threat, but there's just your usual weapons. There's actually driving training. It's what you'd expect. There is not the id making that type of stuff. There's not like a new training piece, if that makes sense.

Okay. But same old tactics that we've seen in the war that are coming. But now everybody in America is gonna see these tactics carried out at some point.

Yeah. Correct. Because remember back when we had a war with Afghanistan, it was like that country had the weakest passport in the world. Right now, everyone's trying to save Afghans. So all these foreigners now have afghan passports and nobody knows they're afghan. And as we've learned, everyone drops their ids at the border anyway. You don't know if someone's iraqi, syrian, Afghan. I mean. I mean, there is like no vetting of these people, right? We don't even know who these people are, and we're not going to be able to vet them anyway, as you can imagine. So if you have 30 new al Qaeda training camps, these are all new recruits. Like, people don't understand this, right? This is Mohammed. Never been a terrorist in his whole life. His fingerprints aren't in any system, his photos not in his system. He's not on a us watch list, he's not marked as a terrorist. Even when we have terrorists on watch lists, I think a lot of people don't understand. A terrorist on a watch list does not mean we can get them out of border. So, like, a really good example is, you know, we talked about Mula brader in the past, who I caught.

So he spent many years in Pakistan. So in Pakistan, he lived there with a pakistani passport under a pakistani identity. So his name was Mohammed Arif. Okay? Now, if you look at his pakistani passport, and he would take that to the southern border, no one would ever know he's mullibrator, right? Because the us government had an estimated date for him. So you don't have a date of birth. And then his passport in Pakistan only has a year of birth. I think it was like 1963. That's not useful. The name on the passport's different, so the name you haven't watchlisted isn't going to matter. The father's name on the passport's different. The nationality on the passport's different. Right? So there is no way, if he came to the border as one of the most top 21 terrorists in the world at the time, he would have come in, right, just fine. And no one would have known they left. Harrison.

Wow. Wow, man. Are you aware of any camps within the US? Any of these sleeper cells?

I'm not aware of any camps. At least. What I know is they're pre training. At least al Qaeda's pre training. One of the guys we're following is actually doing the passports. Do you want me to get into that?

Let's do it.

Okay, let's do it. So, obviously, last time I was on the show, I told you, we just found out one of our top ten attackers at the Benghazi attacks was in Afghanistan. His name is Hamza al Darnawi. So we started following him September. And while following him, we found actually the number one target of our investigation. So we've never made the number one target of our investigation public. So this will be the first time anyone actually hears about him. So when we went to investigate the Benghazi attacks, we had two goals, right? Bring the attackers to justice and stop them from killing anyone else. So he's the number one target for stopping them from killing anyone else. So this individual, his name is Abdul Azim Ali. Musa Ben Ali, long name. And then if you're libyan, he's from the al Darcy family. He doesn't use the aldarcy as part of his name, but legally it could be. So we just call him Musa for short, me and Boon. So back in the day, he fought like everyone with al Qaeda in the mujahideen era, and then he became a clandestine officer in al Qaeda. So what we did in our investigation were like, hey, he thinks he's kind of like this undercover CIA guy in al Qaeda.

Let's follow him that way. So we've never shared publicly that we're following him. The really interesting part is he's had one job forever in al Qaeda, and it is to make the fake travel documents for al Qaeda's experience, external operatives. So he started all the way back in Afghanistan, back in the day, he made the documents for our Benghazi attackers. So we've talked. So what a lot of people don't get is when our Benghazi attacks happen, then a huge chunk of the terrorists went to the airport and got on airplanes. They thought the US military was going to come in and rain hell on Benghazi. They left so that all their passports were made in advance. A lot of people don't understand this, and actually, one of the people with the fake passports, he was an al Qaeda and Iraq guy, got captured in Turkey. And the crazy part is, the US didn't ask to extradite him. He got sent to Tunisia, and then he got released. And then our government said, oh, we're following him. They didn't. He killed a couple political leaders in Tunisia, and then he went to Syria. And luckily, we ended up getting both him and his brother in, in strikes in Syria later on.

But they were terrorists for many years after Benghazi. Then the crazy part is, Musa then went on, and I don't know if you ever remember the name, the Coruscant group. So basically, around the time of the Benghazi attacks, al Qaeda was like, hey, we need to focus all of our external operations into one place. We need basically a group in al Qaeda that only does external operations. So focus on Europe and the US mostly. So it became this Khorasan group, and it was led by a guy named Muslim Fadl, and it became the US's top priority, as you can imagine. Right? It's like, hey, they're going to be the ones doing the attacks. Let's start striking them. And so the US started striking them and basically wiped out the Khorasan groups. Musa was the Coruscant group's sole travel facilitator for Turkey, and most of their travel documents were turkish, because as you can imagine, Turkey's a really easy travel document to get because of fraud and everything. And it gets you into Europe. Right? So he was that group's only trusted facilitator. That's how important he is. Then during this whole time, he's doing a Qim.

So al Qaeda's North Africa branch, obviously, that's who did our attacks. Then he goes on and starts doing the travel documents for the al Baadr brigade. A lot of people don't know what the Alba to brigade is, but if I tell you what they did, you'll know. So do you remember the Ariana Grande concert? They did that. Remember the multiple attacks in France? When they hit the bad Eklan? That was also al bad Armujahideen guys. So they're basically. They were basically the libyan terrorists, and a lot of them came from artaxies that went to Syria. And at the time, in Syria, you could join two terrorist groups. You could join the al Nasir front, and their leader was just killed yesterday, the original leader, actually. Or you can join ISIS. Right? So a lot of the ones from Libya steered toward ISIS, but Libyans have this weird thing where they make their own groups, and so the ones who steer toward ISIS instead of al Nusra started calling themselves the al batter brigade. So that's where they came from. So anyway, so we have Musa till that point. Okay. And then we lose him in our investigation.

So we have him, basically, he's in Libya, he's in Syria, he's in Turkey, and he spent some time in France doing this, as you can imagine, because there was french attacks. He spent time in Nice. So we lose him completely. So we're thinking he's living just under an assumed identity, since he can make any of them in Turkey or Syria. So, lo and behold, we're following Hamza al Darnawi, and he goes and sees Musa in Afghanistan. So we find out Musa's been hiding all these years and been protected by the iranian government in Iran. So he's been in Iran. So, of course, then we're like, well, what's Musa doing in Afghanistan? He has to be doing travel documents. So, lo and behold, Musa works for Surajideen Haqqani in the Taliban's ministry of interior. And his sole job is he makes all the fake travel documents for al Qaeda's ex external operatives who are leaving from Afghanistan. So he was involved in Benghazi. He's been ignored since Benghazi, and now he is the one man that knows every terrorist al Qaeda is deploying from Afghanistan.

Whoa. And we have no interest in him?

None. And did I not say Surajah din Haqqani is his boss? And we're giving Surajah din Haqqani money weekly?

Yeah, we're gonna get into that shortly. I can't. How is this guy not on anybody's radar?

I don't know.

Well, let's get back to. So let's get back to the sleeper cells real quick within the US. How? I mean, why do you think we haven't seen anything happen yet? This has been open for years and years. Even before this administration border was pretty wide open.

The border was open, but not at the point where 7 million were coming in. And also, remember, it wasn't easy for these people to travel from the Pakistan Afghanistan border region to here. Now these pipelines are open. Like I told you. There's these illegal flights from India. Those weren't flying. Right. There's these routes from Iran and Turkey and Brazil. Those didn't really exist. This is all kind of a new phenomenon. And so a lot of people don't realize it's changed. The situation's changed. Right. And I don't even think the terrorists put a huge focus on targeting the southern border. You got to remember, a lot of terrorists get in here legally. Right. The 911 attackers got in here legally. We brought in a lot of terrorists doing the Kabul evac legally. Even, you know, I talk about Muller Barader, who I captured. So his wife's sister lives in Virginia. And in the last couple of years, the US has let Mula Brader's wife come to Virginia and see her sister. So the us government has no problem issuing real visas to terrorists. And terrorists know this. Right. Especially, you know, Muslim Brotherhood's very involved in this type of stuff.

So the southern border wasn't always the biggest focus because we have huge loopholes. I mean, the biggest loophole was obviously student visas. That's what the 911 attackers did. We obviously now have a humanitarian loophole. Right. We have all these people we're trying to save that may have been our allies in Afghanistan. So you just have to remember, terrorists take advantage of what is available at the time. Right now, the southern border is the easiest to take advantage of.

Is there any estimation on how many are in the US right now?

No. But it's got to be thousands.

Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be. I don't even know how you would estimate, but why do you think they haven't hit?

Well, you have to remember, unless you're, like, a lone wolf and just doing an attack on your own, like, you have to wait till you have, like, the guidance or you're told what to do. You know, part of it is al Qaeda has a new structure, at least al Qaeda we're talking about, you know, so they have to wait till these new commanders are in place in these locations, and then I can get into this now. But al Qaeda has a whole plan in place. And while getting revenge for bin Laden's on that plan, it's not the number one on the plan. So the two number one pieces on the al Qaeda plan right now, that takes up almost all their bandwidth, is number one is deploying the new trainees to Iraq and Syria to attack us and israeli forces. So people keep thinking ISIS is, like, getting jumping up again in Syria. That's like al Qaeda. So just to let people know how this happened, I told you how Hamas trained in Afghanistan, right? So then after the Hamas attacks, of all people. Mula breeder. This is why you don't negotiate with the guy who operationally runs all the terrorist attacks of a terrorist group, which was his job in Taliban.

So Mullah breeder and then he went. Took an al Qaeda delegation with him, which had the head of al Qaeda external operations. Al Qaeda has not named that person yet. So right now, it's the de facto head of. It is Saifal Ottal. So the two of them go to Iran, and they meet with the Iranians, and they say, hey, al Qaeda and the Taliban want to support the Hamas effort, you know, against the US and Israel. What do you need from us? And Iran said, we just need you to send fighters to Syria and Iraq. So the interesting part is a lot of people need to understand this nuance. So the main operational head of al Qaeda and the main operational head of Taliban wanted to help Hamas. And where did they go to get the permission to help Hamas? Iran. So anyone saying Iran didn't know about the Hamas attacks and they're not involved, it's B's. Why would the two operational heads of both these groups go get the permission of Iran? So anyway, so a lot of the people that are training in these 30 camps in Afghanistan are going there. So they've already deployed 10,000 to meet this request from Iran.

Okay, so that's a huge chunk. The other biggest thing they're working on is the Fatah war plan. I don't know if you've heard about this.

I haven't.

Okay, so this is al Qaeda, Taliban al Qaeda, Indo subcontinent, the Indi al Qaeda, and then basically political group in Pakistan called Juif. It's run by a guy named Fazil Arachman. Okay. So all these entities have come together and they made a war plan. And the war plan basically is to take over what's kind of called pashtunistan. So you're going to take over the federally administrated tribal areas of Pakistan. You're going to take over Khyber Pakhtunwa. So the old Khyber province. And then they want to take over Baluchistan province. So this is al Qaeda's biggest personal plan. And so their war plan and their fatal war planning is, like I said, number two, after the Syria Iraq deployments. So they have, like I said, other ambitions. Right. The bin Laden thing, even the Africa stuff, they've basically been like, they made a plan for it and we can discuss it later, but they're like, here's your plan, Africa. You run within and do it because we are laser focused on this war plan. And that's like, what they're going to do in the meantime. And the thing is they have to do it now. So the way, like Haibetullah Akonzado, who runs the Taliban, looks at it is, hey, we have all these terrorists here.

Something's going to happen. Our terrorists are going to do stuff other places. And they have been. Right. And people are going to start coming here. The only people we don't want coming here or being involved again is the Americans. The only way to stop the Americans is to affect Pakistan because Pakistan is the only regional government who's going to bring Americans back into the fold. Right? So Haibetullah is basically, it's us or them. Right? So what he first wants to do is create a buffer. They all do. Everyone in the plan, they want to create a buffer between Afghanistan and Pakistan, but then they want to make Pakistan in another phase. They're not at that phase yet. Like a part of the islamic emirate. Right. And then in a much later phase, you get the Kashmir piece. So, yeah. So right now it's just, let's take this territory and then we replan and do a different war plan.

Oh, man. Man. What do you think it'll look like when they start attacking within, within the US and european? Is it going to look like what we just saw happen in Russia would they kill like 100? Was it 140?

Yeah, 140, almost. So yeah, they're always going to do that type. Right, because that's the soft target. That's the where terrorism comes from. Right. You're like terrorizing the people. You're making the government look bad. I don't think that's going to stop. But I think they care a little more about establishing, spreading Sharia, an islamic state. And you don't get a lot of benefit if you carry out like ten attacks in America because then America's like, okay, we're going to get back involved in Afghanistan, right? They want to build a safe haven. They want to grow this safe haven. They want to train their new fighters. They want to expand hopefully into Pakistan. And people let them. So we have to look at it in the way al Qaeda looks at it. They're very patient. They have a long plan. Right? We're a piece of the long plan, but they don't get a lot of benefit from doing X, Y and Z. It's not saying they won't do an attack. It's just they have things that are so much more important to them. And remember, they're still getting a win. They're attacking Americans in Iraq. And their goal for, but the Iraq piece is they want to, even though the US is saying it anyway, they want to push Americans out of Iraq.

So when al Qaeda, which they'll say they did, it, pushes Americans out of Iraq, that's another huge win. And that's the same thing that happened in Afghanistan. So one big piece of their global strategy is push Americans out. Like I told you, one is just attack the embassies. But it's like we want you to replicate all of al Qaeda allies or whomever, replicate the success we had in Afghanistan, elsewhere, right? So, like in Libya, in eastern Libya, there's a head of al Qaeda. His name is Ashraf Sultan. He was one of our Gitmo detainees and he was, of course, a 2012 Benghazi attacker. That's why I know this. So the Haqqanis reached out to him and had a whole discussion and it basically was the Haqqani saying, hey, we want to repeat the success of Afghanistan in Tripoli. And so that's like another piece of their plan, right? They want everywhere else to kind of come become little talibanistan, as I call it, right? And then basically have this huge islamic emirate. Like it's a really, really big goal and it kind of is Osama bin Laden's old goals, right? And now just the next generation is trying to do them.

So you have to view it that way. It's not all this short satisfaction thing for them.

Okay. How do you think they're gonna spread sharia law in their agenda? Are they going to embed in our government? I mean, it sounds like. I mean, we're funding them, so they gotta be in there somewhere already.

Yeah, they've been embedding in our government, especially Taliban sympathizers. I mean, gosh, like, we need to fire a lot of people in the State Department. Yeah. Unfortunately, al Qaeda has been very, very patient. They haven't just embedded in our government, there are Taliban. I mean, sorry, al Qaeda representatives in a lot of embassies around the world, in a lot of like, Ministry of foreign affairs around the world. They have slowly seeped in. As we focus on. Hey, I wanna see the al Qaeda guy with a gun. I don't care about the al Qaeda guy working the consular section of the Paris embassy. Right. You don't focus on that. Cause it's not the shiny object. Well, that guy now, right, is an ambassador.

Wow.

And so al Qaeda's been so smart about that, man.

What do you think? Americans need to watch out for themselves.

I mean, we're causing this own failure ourself, right? Like, we could have beat the Taliban in Afghanistan, but our government refused to designate them a terrorist group. Right? They tied the hands of the war fighters. And you know what a lot of people don't understand is they blame everything on Pakistan when a lot of it's US and Pakistan, right? We did the whole mujahideen together. But when I was in Pakistan, we captured so many senior Taliban members. Like, most of them are never going to be made public, right? So the us government says, hey, capture this bad guy. We capture the guy, we ask him some questions, we write some pretty reports, but then the US has no follow on. The US doesn't say, let's move him to Bagram, we're gonna do criminal charges against him. Let's put him through a court of law. So they end up in basically a prison in Pakistan. And then after like five years, I mean, the prison's overpopulated. Cause it has so many of these Taliban guys in it and there's diseases going through, and the Taliban like, hey, are you ever gonna charge us? I mean, the Pakistani's like, you're gonna charge this guy?

We don't have charges against him in our country. Us does nothing. So you have to remember, the US is the reason. Like, they don't have endgames for any of these people. I mean, Guantanamo base showed that, right? They picked a bunch of guys, and then there's no plan on what to do with them. But the same thing's happening when we arrest terrorists in these countries. So they're being detained like five years maybe, and then they're back out, and then you're just chasing them again. And also in prison, they were in prison with all the terrorists, and they made better networks. So we are causing all of our own problems, besides obviously funding them and everything, but we're really not bringing terrorists to justice.

Yeah, that's painfully obvious.

Mm hmm.

Well, let's move into. I know we're gonna talk about Libya and the mortar team.

My favorite subject.

Let's do it.

Yep. Took us 4000 days, but we found the mortar team. So, I mean, as you know. So the really interesting part is, you know how you, like, make assumptions and then you go down rabbit holes and you spend a lot of time. Right. So we knew who planned the mortar attack. Right. His name was Wasam bin Hamad. He's deceased now. And we talked about him last time.

This is the mortar attack on Benghazi.

Yes. This was the one on the CIA annexed on September 12. So, you know, that night there were six terrorist attacks. So this is the last one that killed Ronan, Bub, or as you know, the Cl team calls him Ty. So this is the team, then, who shot the mortars? So they were obviously, as you could imagine, we were CIA. So the mortar team has always been like the holy grail of our investigation. Right? Like, we have to get the mortar team. So the interesting part is we spent all this time thinking they were under this Wassam bin Hamad, and he ran a group called Libya Shield. So we spent tons of time looking for the mortar team inside Libya Shield. Right. Cause we're like, you know, he had to have used his own group members. Of course not. He called the best mortar team in town that night and said, hey, I need you to do a mortar strike in the CIA. And they said, sure. So that's why it took us so long to identify the mortar team, because we were looking in the completely wrong group. So the mortar team ended up being.

It was called the Hasan al Jabr cell. And really that name is. It was actually. The crazy part is everything always ties together. There was an Al Jazeera journalist, and he basically got ambushed and killed. And so the cell named themselves after it. But the interesting part is the ambush and kill was to kill. This basically senior commander Abdel Fateh Yunus. And he was kind of the other General Hoftar. There was like two general Hoftars. So this journalist was going to interview him. So the terrorists were like, good, we'll kill him with the journalist. Well, the journalist hadn't got to him yet, and so they ambushed the journalist and fortunately killed a journalist and some of his team. I'm friends with one, the security detail on the team. There's a video of this. It's on like, YouTube, the ambush and everything.

No kidding.

Because they're filming because they're gonna go do an interview. So anyway, they kill him. So it's just really interesting because when this general ends up dying, the people involved are Ahmed Abu Katala, who the US framed as a mastermind, the brother of Wassam bin Hamad. Mohammed bin Hamad. Right. So it was our terrorist who then ended up going and killing this general. So it likely was Arteris, in some fashion, who unfortunately also killed this Al Jazeera reporter. So anyway, the cells named after them and they're inside of another group called the Rafale al Sahati Brigades. And then the Rafalah al Sahati Brigades was a cell within 17th February Martyrs Brigade. So for the people who know the Benghazi story, most people understand the 17 February Martyrs Brigade was like the security outside given by the government of Libya to protect the consulate. And then there was a private company called the Blue Mountain Group who were the next step in. And they were like the local guards on the compound. And remember when I talked about the terrorist that was detained for the child rape a few months ago? He was Blue Mountain group. And I think that's one of the reasons why we can't get it in the us press, because the us government has always said Blue Mountain group didn't have any terrorists.

No Blue Mountain group members attacked us. And he was a member of Blue Mountain group. Remember, that was a State Department paid contract to Blue Mountain. So basically, State Department paid for that attacker, and they don't want to be honest about it. So anyway, so, yeah, so this is how incestuous it is. So, yes, so this Rafael al Sahati, they were the mortar team, and then they also had attackers at the consulate. So this group was involved in both. But it makes perfect sense. So the US had really bad collection of terrorism at the time. But it makes sense because the person who ran the group, his name is Mohammed al Gharabi, he goes back and forth between Libya and Turkey a lot. He's top ten of our investigation. He was the al Qaeda commander for Benghazi at the time, he had fought with al Qaeda in the mujah, Afghanistan. The US did not know that was his job. They only knew him as the commander of Rafael al Sahati, if that makes sense, which they thought, oh, it's like an islamist militia. So if you actually learn who these people are and what their roles are, it's just all al Qaeda, right?

And al Qaeda asks al Qaeda guys to do everything. But because the US didn't do the investigation, right, like a lot of people still don't understand all these inner workings.

Did you share the mortar team with the FBI?

Yes.

How did that go?

So it didn't go anywhere. So obviously I'm a targeter, right? So we didn't just find the mortar team, we found the information you would need to target the mortar team. Obviously, I won't say the pieces of that information, so the mortar team doesn't do something about it. So we shared that information the first week of November with the FBI and the state Department's rewards for justice program. We still have not had a response from the FBI. But the interesting part is the Justice Department, United States is going to retry their fake mastermind, Ahmed Abu Katala, this summer, which is insane. So the first time he went through the trial, he got like 22 years, which is amazing for a guy who wasn't the mastermind. Showed up late, hung out outside until al Qaeda left, and then went in and grabbed some useless items because, remember, there's nothing classified in the consulate. He got 22 years. They're going to retry him for more time this summer. So anyway, they have contacted people from the Cianx to testify against him this summer. So they have not responded to us on actually trying to go after the mortar team, but they want to have another dog and pony show with their fake mastermind and get the cianics people to come in and play this little game, which we're all pretty frankly pissed off about.

The other thing is just to kind of, like, jump ahead. You actually saw the letter we wrote as a team.

I did.

So it was me, a case officer, our camo officer, and then the entire GRS team put out a group letter because when we identified the mortar team, five members of the mortar team. So the mortar team is only ten people. So half of the mortar team were family members of FBI's key witness in their first fake mastermind trial against Ahmed Abu Kuttala. So they took this libyan, they paid him millions of dollars, they moved him here. He testified that Abu Kuttala was the mastermind of this attack, which we've proven he's not. It's Mukdoba Muqdar, a famous AQIM commander. And basically, during this whole process, he has other family members at the consulate attacks, which we knew, but he basically covered up that five members of the mortar team were his family. And this is FBI's witness against Katala.

How is this. How does this. How is this happening?

I don't know. So maybe that's why they haven't responded to us. But, yeah, he lives in America. He lives in Virginia, people. And the worst part is, it's not even the worst part. That is the worst part. But. So I'm an intelligence officer. We all were in Benghazi. So this witness in 2011 kidnapped a libyan intelligence officer, tortured and killed him. And he's actually wanted for that crime in Benghazi. It's a war crime, obviously. And the US basically bringing him here to be involved in Katala's fake trial is stopping justice from that family. The intelligence officer's name was Nasral Sarmani. And there's actually trials going on right now for his situation. So us having this witness here is stopping that family from getting justice for that murder. And Ahmed Abu Kuttala, the fake mastermind, as I told you, killed the general. He actually has a potential of the death penalty in Benghazi. So actually, the FBI setting him up as a fake mastermind also kept him alive when he should be on death row. Already have been given the death sentence in Libya for that crime, protecting Taras as part of this Benghazi conflict.

We're harboring them.

Yeah. So we don't have to be honest and say it was al Qaeda. So good luck with that trial this summer, guys.

Oh, my gosh. This is.

It's gonna be a shit show.

This is. This is so disturbing that we. Can we just continue to do this? I mean, where do you. I just. I don't even know what to say.

I know. I do hope this man in Virginia knows, though. The entire CIA annex team knows where you live. We know what you drive. And stay the hell away from us.

Are you worried at all bringing this information out?

I mean, that doesn't fall on me, right? FBI did a failed investigation. They brought a terrorist to America. Right. Someone has to say what they did wrong. Because he's a threat. Right? He doesn't even live that far from the CIA. He is a threat to Americans. And so someone actually has to do the right thing and say it. Right. Like, he needs to be deported, like, immediately. And he's. He needs to face trial anyway for the. For a murder in Libya. Like, it's just what they have done with just the Benghazi investigation in general, as you can imagine. It's just. It's just so criminal. It's so incompetent. It's so frustrating for us who have been there, and now we're watching our terrorists go on and do other things. Right. Like I told you, making these passports for this next generation of al Qaeda guys like that guy should not even be free to do it. The best al Qaeda passport guy in the world should have been detained after Benghazi.

Yeah. Yeah. It almost just doesn't even seem real.

I know.

You know, it's.

And people need to be know we've been this bad for this long, right? Benghazi was 2012, man.

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Yeah, there's the two I brought up, Abu Hashem. Hashem Abu Sidra and Faraj Shaku. So they've both been captured, but the US has, from what I know, haven't asked for access to them, haven't asked to deport them in any way. The really interesting part is Hashem, at least his role is. He's very senior. He's top ten in the entire world in terrorism, and he runs the entire Sahel. At least he did. So everything through that whole portion of Africa, he was in charge of it. So if it was weapons, drugs, moving humans, he ran all that. So a lot of people don't really realize, like, al Qaeda and ISIS are kind of like billion dollar organizations in Libya. They run more as, like, businesses instead of terrorist groups. And this matters because just a couple months ago, the Haqqani network sent a delegation from Afghanistan to Libya to get weapons. So the interesting part is, right, you ask a lot of questions like, are they just going there to get weapons because al Qaeda and Libya is rich and they'll just give them for free because al Qaeda doesn't charge them. Right. They put the weapons order together and gave it to them.

Or are they going to Libya because the weapons are not us origin? Right. So a big problem right now that's happening in Pakistan is all these suicide attacks are happening and the Pakistanis are being very forward leaning and putting all the pictures out and they saying, hey, these tariffs have. They have m 16s, they have us gear. I mean, some of the guns actually say property of the us government, right. And there's a lot of flak then going, as you can imagine, on the Taliban. It's like, hey, we know these weapons came from you because of the type of weapons they are. So I think it's really interesting to see the Haqqanis going to Libya to get weapons. Now, are they getting those weapons to actually go back to Pakistan, Afghanistan? It's not entirely sure because the Haqqanis, as I told you, have had this goal to push the success of what happened in Afghanistan out. And one of the groups they're doing that with is Boko Haram. So in June, so just last summer, the Haqqanis brought a Boko Haram delegation to Afghanistan and they actually brought them over to the border into Pakistan and they toured ISIS KP training camps.

So we don't know exactly who the Haqqanis bought these weapons for. But the interesting thing is, I do know some of the weapons that they purchased. So they purchase russian PKT heavy machine guns and then they purchase like 150 and 160 millimeter artillery shells. So the PKT is a huge gun, right. It's not like a one man holds the gun. So they're purchasing also some big supplies. And what a lot of people don't know is everyone still thinks it's Libya 2011 and 2012. And these are the stockpiled weapons from Gaddafi. Terrorists are not buying 1520 year old weapons, right. They're going to Libya and buying brand new weapons. So it's like, where are the brand new weapons coming from? So there's like this whole weapons trade going into Libya. Libya is one of the best places in the world right now to buy weapons. And they're coming from Serbia, they're coming from Ukraine, and they're coming from Turkey. And so there's like this giant, almost like weapons depot right now.

They're coming from Ukraine, too.

Yeah. So those are the major pipelines or weapons coming into Libya. So these are new weapons.

How are they getting in from Ukraine?

I don't know exactly what the Ukraine pipeline is. I just know that that's the origins of.

So the stuff that we're sending over to Ukraine is some of it's winding up in Libya.

Yeah. I don't know if exactly the us weapons, but weapons from Ukraine are definitely winding up in Libya. Do I know? Are they exactly all the ones we provided? Could they be? Remember, both militaries are fighting in Ukraine, right? So Ukraine has weapons, Russia has weapons. Right? So we have to remember there's both sides of the weapons spectrum in Ukraine, and there's corruptions on both sides. Right. There's corruption on the ukrainian side, corruption on the russian side. So the weapons could be coming from either side.

Interesting, interesting. How is AQ kind of developing in Libya?

So the really interesting thing is nobody really knows al Qaeda and Libya exists right now because al Qaeda and Libya has a deal with the libyan government, and it is. We will not attack inside Libya. So they're running purely as a business in Libya, and then they're helping, obviously, al Qaeda and other places like al Qaeda is trying to step in Mali. So they're gonna help that piece. Right. They've been helping fund different parts of al Qaeda around the world. They've helped fund ISIS, you know, so all those type of things. So they've basically done. So terrorists have gotten really smart. Like, they're all trying to follow this Taliban model. Like, hey, if we're a political organization, we won't be targeted. Right. Or targeting will be limited. So al Qaeda and Libya have renamed themselves and they're that, like, islamic reform Movement. And they're trying to make it almost like we're a political group. Vice, a terrorist group now. And it's actually all being done by Abdel Hakeem Belhaj. So he's kind of one of the most famous libyan terrorists. He's pretty much the only terrorist most people know because everyone's like, why isn't he in your Benghazi investigation?

Because he wasn't an attacker. But he is kind of al Qaeda's point man. And he's the one kind of doing this whole restructuring. He's the one. Right? When the Haqqanis come, they're working with Belhaj. He used to be in the CIA, black sites, of all things. He runs an airline. I mean, it's just this crazy universe we live in now. Like, these terrorists are these, like, power brokers. And he is aligned with the government of Libya that the US is aligned with. So we are on the same side as the islamic reform movement in Libya. Like the us government, the us government's on the wrong side in Libya, and we're basically aligned with him. And the us government will downplay him. I don't even know if he's designated as a terrorist anymore. They will downplay him and say he is not al Qaeda when he is the head of al Qaeda right now in Libya.

Oh, my gosh. Man. This is. I can't believe, like, how many people were just pushing to the wayside like nothing happened.

Well, the crazy part is, too. So remember how I told you we were following, like, hamza al Darnawi in Afghanistan? So obviously we found him, right? So we're like, we need to get a bounty on him so someone can do something about him. Obviously a local. Right? So we reached out to the FBI and they said, hey, there's no budget to put bounties on them. So we asked for a million dollar bounty. Well, just last week, the State Department asked for $53 million to put a new embassy in Tripoli, an embassy in the city where 75% of the at large Benghazi attackers are being harbored by the government of Libya. So there's plenty of money to put in the embassy in, but there's not any money to go after the terrorists who are going to attack that embassy. When you put it in, isn't that the craziest, like, thinking ever?

I just. I just. I don't even. I just don't understand this stuff. Like, I don't. How can this even be happening? It's insane. It's insane. What do you think? What are AQ's plans for the rest of Africa?

Yeah. So Africa is kind of like third or fourth in their priorities right now. So it's not a focus, as you can imagine, because the war plan and Iraq and Syria are taking so long. So what they decided to do is, hey, Africa. We're going to give you ownership of Africa, and you basically take our successes and move them forward. But the way we're going to do that is we're going to give you one of the best al Qaeda operational planners ever to exist, and we're going to relocate him from Afghanistan to Mali. And then he will head it all and he's in charge. And he's basically the AQ head for Africa. And you go to him. Right. So you don't need to go and check with, like, the bin Ladens or Saif al. You go to him. He's in charge of Africa. Okay. So it's almost a little decentralized. So the interesting part is the person who they did this with his name is Abu Muhammad al Mazri. He's also known as Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah. Now I'm saying this. And every person who knows him is like, he's dead. So the Israelis think they assassinated him in Iran.

They didn't. They killed the wrong guy. And so we can't get anyone to believe us that he's alive because, like, well, the Israelis did it. People need to realize the Israelis have assassinated the wrong people. Right. The Lillehammer affair is the greatest example. This is when they went after. His name was Ali Hassan. He kind of ran like the 17th forest in the black September for the Munich Olympic attacks from 1972. So they thought they assassinated him up in Scandinavia, but they got the wrong guy. They got like a moroccan waiter. Well, they also got the wrong guy in Iran. So Abu Mohammed is alive. Al Qaeda has deployed him to Mali and he's now, like I said, the head of al Qaeda in Africa. And he's also the father in law of Hamza bin Laden's second wife.

Whoa, whoa.

But it's even better. He also was involved in the Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings. And that's why we think us embassy Bamako is one of the embassies under the most threat right now.

Do you think they. I'm just curious, do you think they have any interest in all of the natural resources in Africa?

So the really interesting part is al Qaeda. Yes. ISIS has been better at capitalizing on it. Isis and Wagner group of taking the mines. But al Qaeda now realizes how profitable it is. So al Qaeda and Taliban took over eleven illegal mines in the northern parts of Afghanistan in the last couple of years and they're making 25 million a month. So $25 million a month comes into the Taliban. 25% of it goes off the top to al Qaeda. So far, al Qaeda has made 200 million alone off of only eleven illegal mines. So, yes, they now understand how profitable it is and I do think that they're going to now take more advantage now that they've realized, wow, like, this is major money. I mean, 25 million a month is like huge money.

Who is the most powerful terrorist organization right now?

I mean, you know, I know I'm biased. I mean, I still think it's al Qaeda. I still think it's the bin Ladens.

And they're pretty much intertwined with just about everybody now.

Yes.

Is there anybody that's pushing back on them? Is there any. I mean, is there any terrorist rivalry or.

To al Qaeda?

Yeah.

Zero.

Nothing.

Nothing.

So it's becoming just one big organization.

Yeah. And what al Qaeda's been really smart. The only rival they would have is Isis. So they've been really smart, and they've been like, remember I told you they can move weapons and they don't really pay for it? They've given ISIS weapons for free in Afghanistan. Actually, like, 20% of the ISIS KP budget actually comes from al Qaeda. So al Qaeda has been very, very smart to actually almost, like, pay ISIS off to leave him alone. But also there has been crossover between the two groups, too, as you can imagine. Especially, like I told you, Libya is a great example. So, yeah, I don't see anyone right now going after al Qaeda, man.

How does the terrorism in Libya tie into palestinian terrorism?

Yeah, that's really interesting. That's such a historical thing. Like, people don't understand. So it goes back, actually to 1911. In Libya, there was a hero, Omar al Muqdar. Okay? He ran the first libyan revolution, and that at the time was against the Italians. So he was fighting this revolution. And a gentleman named Izzadi in al Qassim. He was born in the Ottoman Empire. He was basically born in Syria. He ended up settling in what became the british mandated Palestine. He came and fought with Omar Muqdar. If that name sounds familiar, that's where the al Qassim brigades is named after. That obviously just did the Hamas attacks. Right. So the Libya relationship goes back very strong to palestinian terrorism, to 1911, then we've already kind of discussed Munich. But Gaddafi, when he was in power, he funded part of the Olympic village attack in 1972 in Munich against the israeli athletes. Even beyond that, he buried the dead terrace from Black September in Tripoli. So they're in Tripoli right now. So when the Hamas attacks were happening, there was a lot of press coming out about the air campaign. Right? And there was a name associated with it.

It was Zawari. That is actually a libyan tunisian. A lot of people think he's only tunisian because his actually real name isn't public, so it's only his cunya that everybody knows. So he is the person who created the drone program for Hamas. And he's also close to a lot of our Benghazi attackers to include Wassam bin Hamad. And they basically ran a group in Libya called the Hamas Cell. And what the Hamas cell did, it basically was just an organization that moved weapons and whatnot, aid to Hamas over the years to Gaza. Osama bin Hamad was involved, and the fake mastermind, Ahmed Abu Katal, is involved. We even put a picture of Ahmed al Qatal in Gaza in the book. So one of his pictures is actually him inside Gaza around 2011, when we saw Ibn Hamed. He's our mastermind of the mortar attack. When he was killed, Abu Ubeda, who's really famous now, the spokesperson for Hamas, basically put out a post on his now defunct Twitter and he said, hey, we want everyone to know this hero was, like, the number one supplier of weapons to the al Qasa brigade. So our Benghazi attacker, who did the cianus attack that no one went after was Hamas's number one weapons supplier.

Now, one more piece of the weapons supply. The last piece is basically a gentleman in college. Sharif, another terrorist that was in the black sites. So after the libyan revolution, the new one, the 2011 one, he made this organization called the Libyan National Guard, the us government got in a relationship with him, and basically what he was using it as was a cover and a front to buy new weapons for Hamas. And he was doing it at the time with the Hamas. Hamas had a representative sent from Gaza to Libya, and his name was Marwan Oshkar. And so Khalid Sharif and Marwan used to buy new weapons as the National Guard. Even Marwan had a national Guard ID card, like, he's a libyan, so he could carry weapons in Libya, and then they would obviously send those weapons to Gaza. The libyan government did go after Marwan just because it was such a big criminal enterprise, as you can imagine, he got detained in 2016. But since the attacks in Gaza in October, and like I said, so many Libyans are very pro the palestinian cause. The prime minister, who is the one I told you that released a lot of our terrorists, but the terrorists in the summer, Dabaiba, he releasing the Hamas cell in December, just this past December, and it was all over the press because he released them.

And they got on a private plane from Tripoli to Qatar. So, yeah, so the. Yeah, it's so interconnected, Hamas. And the really thing. The funny thing is, is when we put our book out, we actually went back and forth how much Hamas we put in because it's gonna throw people off because they don't understand the connectivity. They keep al Qaeda and Hamas separate. And so we only just touched on it. And then in retrospect, we're like, we should have explained this more to people, right? Because now they don't understand. So when I say al qaddish training Hamas in Afghanistan, people think it sounds crazy. It's like, no, this relationship's going on a really long time. Right? It's just, you didn't collect it that way, so you don't ignore. It exists, man.

It's crazy how this all ties in.

I know. What I always try to tell people is, like, so you know how we look at things, like, an.org structure and that's how the us government looks at stuff. Right? Like al Qaeda, ISIS, and, like, China, of all things, everything has this kind of, like, wrapped around interconnectedness, and that's actually how terrorism is. But we're viewing it from almost like a western focus, and we don't know how to view it another way, but we need to start.

Yeah, that's a good point. How involved do you think all these terrorist organizations are with China? Are they friendly with them?

Sure. So, I mean, I can talk about, like, China, Afghanistan as the best piece, if that makes sense.

Well, we'll get into that. We'll get into that.

Sure.

Because. Yeah, that's. That's Afghanistan specifically.

I know. Because the thing is, China has one major terrorist group. They're focused on whether or not terrorists. The Uyghurs. Right. And so China uses relationships with other terrorists to collect on the terrorists they're going after, if that makes sense. So China has collaborative relationships that you could almost call counter terrorism relationships with terrorist groups to collect on the people they want to collect on. So they do it for advantageous purposes.

Do you think there's any, like, collaboration going on in Latin America with them? Or is it all kind of Afghanistan?

I'm not entirely sure. Like, I don't know the answer to that question. Now. China's very smart. If there was a benefit they got from working with a terrorist group that has a foothold in a place in Latin America where they're trying to build a port or establish something, I think they'd make the relationships. Right. Terrace, Narco, whomever is going to get them to their goal.

Okay. Makes sense. I appreciate that. So let's transition to an Afghanistan. I think we all saw the State of the Union when Steve Nicugh is. Am I saying his name correctly? Nikwi.

Yeah, I'm not good yet. It's cream's father.

Yeah. His son died at Abbeygate in Afghanistan and unfortunately, was escorted out for yelling, United States Marine Corps. And.

Arrested and handcuffed, which is hilarious. We're all super offended by this, by the way.

Yeah. Yeah. And anyways, I know you want to go on about some of the master behind behind Abigail.

Yeah, I mean, well, last time I was here, we talked about the actual suicide bomber and that he got released from Bagram, which we still have held no one accountable for that, which blows my mind but, you know, as someone who's obviously gone after the terrorists at an attack, right. Focus on the masterminds like we did for Benghazi. You know, I do want to explain a little bit about the Abigail suicide bomber, because I feel like I need to explain some so the families understand, like, hey, maybe us isn't the solution to getting him, right? Like, maybe we have to go another way. I mean, I learned this in magazine, right? How Benghazi worked is the mastermind of the consulate attack taken up by the French on my birthday, by the way. Thank you, France. The mastermind of the annex attack taken up by the Libyan National army in the Emirati air force. Right. The other top two leaders of AQR involved in the attack taken up by the French. Right? So we need to move beyond the fact that the US is the only one who's gonna go after these guys, because they're not.

So the really interesting piece with the mastermind attack is named Sana'ula Ghaffari. Okay. So he's the head of ISKP in, you know, the Pakistan Afghanistan border region. What a lot of people don't know is around, like, 2018, early 2019 timeframe. He was running the Haqqani network cell in Kabul. So he had 1000 Haqqani network members under him, and. And was basically really close to Surajideen Haqqani. And Surajideen said, hey, we're putting this Doha deal into place. And when this Doha deal goes into place, as the Haqqani network, I will no longer be able to do suicide attacks and suicide bombings because it's part of the deal that we're not going to do them anymore. I need a way to still commit the attacks. I need to commit. Sunullah, will you join ISIS? And if you join ISIS, I will let you have our network. I will let you have the resources you need for attacks. And so Sinala agreed, and Sinalla basically became a plant in ISIS. And he actually, because of his network in Kabul, basically became quickly the head of ISIS. You know, ISKP for Kabul. Okay, so come around, like, March 2020 iS.

KP is having their Shura meeting. So all their senior leaders who run the different committees and the head. And it's down in Kandahar, it gets raised. So it's raided by, like, a commander, Sammy Sadat. Okay? So they go in and they arrest everyone. They arrest, like, 38 people, and they detain them all. So they. All. The senior leadership now of ISKP is basically in prison. And the funny part is, they also arrested four russian women with them, which is actually, like, super funny, because I'm gonna just tell a little story. I don't really tell stories, but I was on an airplane once to Quetta, and there was hardly anyone on the plane. So the flight attendant got really chatty with me, and then she goes, are you russian? And I said, no. Why would you ever think I'm russian? She said, the only white people who come to Quetta are russian prostitutes. And I was like, what? You think I'm a prostitute? So the funny part is, when I heard there's four russian women in this raid, I'm like, oh, my God. That's where the russian prostitutes go. They hang on the wings of the shore meeting for the terrorists.

So, anyway, which is another thing, right? These terrorists want to stone women for adultery, and they're bringing in russian prostitutes. And I'm tired of the crap. So, anyway, so that now is Aslam Farooqi. Okay, so Aslam Farooqi was the head of ISis KP. He started the group. He was a Pakistani, and he came from a group called the Tricky Taliban Pakistan. Okay, so he's now in prison. So Iskp is like, who's gonna lead us? And they're like, well, the San Ula kind of has the most guys under him in Kabul, and they started to just defend referring to him. And he became the leader of ISKp. Well, so now we have. The leader of ISKP is a Haqqani plant. Does this not blow your mind? So the abbey gate attack happens. Right? When the abbey gate attack happened, Haqqani network had taken over the external perimeter security outside. So all those security checkpoints were the Haqqani network. So this suicide bomber went through Haqqani network checkpoints. The one thing he was promised, Sonala, if you go embed yourself in ISIS K and you need to do attacks, you get the green light. You can use all of our networks.

So anyone who acts like this was just an ISKP attack when it was led by a Haqqani plant in ISKP. It's a huge disconnect. But then I want the parents to understand this, right? The US is aligned now, basically with this Haqqani network. Surajah Deen Haqqani has very strong feelings for Sanulla. Saunullah has kind of gone off and done a lot of his own since. Right. Like, I don't think Surajah Connie's telling him everything to do, but the relationship's close enough to where Surajah Dinha, Connie is not going to kill Sana'ula Ghaffari. Right. Yeah. So I really hope, like, the families, like, really, like, just understand this issue. The other piece is, is that. So ISKP has a headquarters in Konar. Right. And there's an individual who actually stays at that headquarters. And so, you know, you have a mastermind for attack, but you have to have a guy who puts all the pieces together to make an attack happen. So for Abby Gate, that guy is Abdullah Omar Bajawari. And right now, he is the head of intel for Ayas KP. So that's another target. Right, that they should be going after for Abbie Gate, because he's kind of the plotter and planner, and we don't even hear his name brought up.

Right. So if we're talking about justice for Abby Gate, like, and no one's even talking about. Right. The key people we need to be taking out. I don't even know if there's active efforts to go after these people.

It doesn't sound like there are no at all moving into ISkp and IsIs. You know, who's leading it.

Yeah. So, basically, when we talk about the ISIS, everyone knows. Right? So that's Iraq and Syria. Okay. People are so semantics with the words now. Like, you need to just say is because you're not talking Iraq and Syria, but just ISIS is easiest way. So ISIS is your Iraq Syria one. So what has happened? Starting in 2020, the real ISIS took 200 people, and they said, hey, we need to find a new safe haven. They tried Africa. It didn't work. We need to find a new safe haven. Let's go test the waters in places. So these 200 went to Baluchistan, Pakistan. They went to a small area called Panjgur. Okay. And they settled there, and they said, let's see if this works. There were some really strategic reasons why they chose it. Access to the sea through Baluchistan. The Baluchis are very supportive of attacks in Iran. ISIS wanted to focus more on Iran there. The Baluchis also in that area, which a lot of people don't understand, who are aligned with ISIS, have iranian, pakistani, and afghan citizenship. So they can run all the routes in that area and move freely between three countries, unlike other people would be able to.

So, anyway, they move these 200 people, they're like, it's safe. So then ISIS started moving all their senior leaders and then all the heads of the committee. So, like, the Shura committee, the operational committee, the leadership committee, the media committee. So all of ISIS, basically now is based in the Pakistan border region in this Panjgur. So they have now deferred to the ISIS leader for the region, who is Sina Ulughari. So Sina Gulagafari is actually the de facto head of real ISIS. So a Haqqani plant is the head of ISIS, which is the craziest thing ever that ISIS would even allow this to occur. But anyway, so that's kind of who is running it. And so the leadership is based in Baluchistan. And then, like I told you, the ISKP kind of headquarters is in Konara, but then all the ISKP camps are in Pakistan. So the biggest camp is in Iraq's eye, Pakistan. Iraq's eye, again, is where the founder came from. And unfortunately, that camp is the best way to put it, is there is a problem in the pakistani military, because that camp is basically protected by Pakistan's frontier Corps, which is a piece of the pakistani military.

And so they're kind of like the National Guard, if you move the national Guard to the border. But when I served in Pakistan, so there's a big enclave, obviously, all the embassies are on, right. And so every embassy has, like, you know, personal security, who, whatever company you would pay of local guards. But then outside those embassies. So on the streets around all the embassies in the enclave, it was protected by the frontier Corps. So basically, the frontier corps now is infiltrated by ISKP. Right. They're harboring ISKP. They're working with ISKP. And I don't know where all the frontier corps has protected the Americans and other foreigners in Pakistan. But this is a huge problem, as you can imagine. Like, the insider threat potential of ISIS using them. It's a big concern.

How many kind of subsidiary organizations are there under ISIS?

Oh, my gosh. So ISIS is one of those places, like, everywhere they go, they make a branch. I think there's like six in Africa. Okay, so in Africa, they're the strongest in Mali, Somalia, and then Mozambique. Like in Mozambique, there's still 800,000 people displaced. Like, people aren't paying attention. Like, this is still going on there. So those are, I'd say, the three biggest fighting wise, and then probably one of the richest is, like I said, the ISIS and Libya.

What is the size of ISKP in Afghanistan? Pakistan?

So I only have, like, the 2022 number, and that's about 7000 bodies. So it's probably higher than that. So the thing is. So I told you. Most of ISIS moved to Baluchistan. Right. So there's about 5000, like, fighter type of ISIS still in Syria, in Iraq. And then all the rest of the terrorists in Syria, in Iraq are these new al Qaeda trainees coming in. Okay. And then I totally just never lose my strain of thought. And I totally lost my train of thought. So then we're kind of talking about.

The strength of ISIS and Afghanistan. Pakistan.

Yeah. Oh, sorry.

And the subsidiary.

Okay, I'm with you organizations. So the interesting part is a lot of central Asians decided to join ISIS. Okay? And they joined ISIS by going to Syria and fighting. Okay? Now the Syria peace is draining down from ISIS. So those, like Tajik, Tajiks, Uzbeks, et cetera, now are leaving Syria, but they're staying in ISIS, but they're not going all the way Baluchistan. They're not really senior leaders, so they're going, circling back and they're joining is KP. So is KP started as about 70% of it was formed from the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani Taliban, about 15% to 20% of it now is kind of these central asian Tajiks. But the interesting part is people don't understand that that's still a small percentage of ISKP. They see four Tajik guys in the Moscow attacks, and they're like, oh, no, it's a Tajik organization now. And the Taliban, al Qaeda are worried, especially about Russia. And they're like, Russia's gonna. Could bring problems for us. So now they're even spinning it and they're even putting propaganda out. ICE. KP is a Tajik organization. It's essentially asian organization. It's not an Afghan. It's like, no, guys, it's run by an Afghan.

Sunula Ghaffari grew up in damn Kabul. Right? But they are trying to play that. And the interesting part is they so ISKP does not think people understand how much they have in Pakistan. And most of their stuff's based in Pakistan. Cause it's very hush hush. Right? So Sadhu Ghaffari left Konar where he'd been, and he moved down to Panjir just days ago. Cause he doesn't think the Russians know ISIS senior leadership is based in Panjgur. And so he moved there for his safety. The interesting part is the Pakistanis have yet to take a strike on ISIS, KP anywhere in pakistani territory. The only government or military that has tried to strike ISIS in Pakistan is Iran, of all things. So earlier this year, ISIS did Iran.

Tried to strike ISIS.

Yes. So earlier this year, Iran did the big suicide bombing at member Soleimani's four year memorial ceremony. In, like, 90 people were killed. Well, Iran was smart and knew ISIS had moved to Panjgura. So Iran did a strike into Panjgura trying to hit ISIS. So they missed them and they hit another compound. So then they publicly said, oh, we are going after Jayash al adult. It's just the old jandala. So they said, oh, because they didn't want to admit they missed ISIS. But, yeah, Iran shot in and tried to hit ISIS senior leadership. But, yeah. So anyway, there's only been one strike on the ISIS safe haven since it was started in 2022 in Baluchistan. So they do feel safe there, and they have been safe there.

It's weird how this is all kind of tying in. Is anybody from the Taliban going after ISIS?

Yeah, on paper, the GDi, which is the Taliban CIA, is supposed to be going after ISIS, and they're the ones getting, like, supposedly the majority of the ISIS dollars to hunt ISIS. So the Taliban only goes after ISIS if ISIS is impacting them in some way. So if ISIS is going to do an attack on them. So the really interesting part is, I told you, ice KP has some sort of affinity to the haqqani side of the Taliban. The Taliban is broken into two sides, okay? Two kind of warring factions. There's the haqqani side, and then there's what we call the Kandahari Taliban side. Okay? So obviously, Sarajeqani is this one, right? That's clear. And then the Kandahari Taliban side is basically the head of the Taliban, haibatula. And then it's basically Mullah Omar's son, Yaqub. And then it's mula brader. Okay? So these two sides are constantly warring. So the interesting part is, ice KP is mostly attacking the Kandahari Taliban side. I think there's only been maybe one attack that you could maybe call, and it's only because it was near the building that Suraj worked in. But I still don't know if that was really any attack on Haqqani.

So anyway, that's who they're going after. So just you have to understand this nuance that they're not even attacking all parts of the Taliban. The other thing is the Taliban are keeping ISIS in play and not going against ISIS for any of their external plotting or training, et cetera, because they need ISIS to stay a threat. They need ISIS to have some successful attacks. Because they need to keep the US ISIS dollars going in. So as long as you keep ISIS as a threat, you'll keep getting paid to go after them. The biggest issue with GDI right now is they're holding two Americans hostage. For everyone who just heard that, yes, you're being lied to. The American in custody, Ryan Corbett, is locked in the cell with another american. It's never been made public. The Taliban are actually holding three Americans. Last week, the press finally realized it's two, but they don't even know. So the Taliban's holding three Americans. Two are locked in a cell together. Okay. One, the family. The state Department for so long said, don't say it publicly. We're gonna negotiate. We're gonna get them out. And they didn't. The family finally said, hey, we're gonna make it public.

The Taliban has, you know, our family member, so we are paying them weekly to go after ISIS. And they basically have two Americans locked in their basement. And the worst part is there's kind of like this deteriorating health situation. So it used to be the two of them in a Brit. The Brit got out and he almost died of septus. But he basically said, hey, when I was in, the only reason I stayed alive is the two Americans in there were, like, helping me, keep me alive because they're not getting kind of, like, much food or adequate nutrition. And if you're not fueling your body, well, you know, you have organs that break down, it affects. So, yeah. We also have two Americans who are basically, like, suffering, like, severe health consequences in GDI.

Who are they?

Ryan Corbett is one of them. And then the other one hasn't been made public. The other two Americans haven't been made public yet because State Department's doing something. But then the interesting part is. So that's the biggest problem. We should not be giving a penny to the organization holding Americans in their basement. The other piece is that a lot of people don't know is so how GDI is structured. They have, like, different departments focused on different things. So they have one department. It's kind of like translates to the immigrants department. And that department full, solely funds and supports the Pakistani Taliban. So the tricky Taliban Pakistan I told you about, they're the ones doing all their tax right now in Pakistan. GDI has a unit that just supports them. And the really interesting thing that a lot of people don't understand is the Taliban has gotten really smart. Okay. So if you worked in Afghanistan ever, everyone says everything's ISI in Pakistan, right? And then when you work in Pakistan, every attack is, oh, it's the Indians or the Afghans. Right. And so the Afghan Taliban is like, why not use that to our advantage?

So what they're doing is they're rotating Taliban units into the TTP in Pakistan and being involved in the attacks, right? So they're doing all these attacks. They did like 800 attacks in the last year in Pakistan. They've completely resurged into one of the biggest terrorist groups in the region. Now, think about it. When the pakistani military comes and kills eight guys and say, well, two are Afghan Taliban, everyone's like, yeah, you're crazy. You're just calling them Afghan because you're Pakistanis and you always did that when they weren't afghan. So, yeah, they're basically doing these attacks right now in Pakistan, part of their Fatah war plan, and nobody actually knows that that's the Afghan Taliban doing it. So that's one department of the GDI, and that affects Pakistan, the other. But TTP has attacked us. TTP did the Marriott bombing that killed Americans, and TTP did the Peshawar consulate. So it's an american group. What we focus on now, the 12th department of the GDI is the most interesting. So the 12th department's job, their only job, is to protect al Qaeda in Afghanistan. So they have branches over the whole country and all their intelligence shops.

And their jobs are very simple. Okay? They protect the 30 al Qaeda training camps. They do all the vetting. So any new recruit, it could be afghan, it could be jordanian, syrian, egyptian. They do the vetting for the new recruits before they start training camp. They do all the movements. So they move all the new trainees in, they move them around, they move all the senior leadership of the al Qaeda round. And then what they do is when they move al Qaeda senior leadership around, they put them in their own houses, right? Because they know we got a relationship with the us government. They're not going to strike us. So they're actually harboring them inside their own houses. And then they're basically in control of. They're helping protect al Qaeda's money, like their cash holdings in Afghanistan, which they have very large cash holdings of. Even just, I told you, even just the small mind piece. And then they're doing all the border movements for al Qaeda. So there is one unit in the GDI. Their sole job is supporting al Qaeda in Afghanistan. That's.

Man. What it's. So Taliban is aligned with Iran, correct?

Yes.

So that means al Qaeda is obviously aligned with Iran, too.

Yeah.

And so is that why Taliban and ISIS are kind of fighting. Is it because of. I mean, what stemmed that?

So basically, what stemmed that? It kind of touches your nuances. Interesting. So years ago, al Qaeda and ISIS, you know, as ISIS was coming to in Afghanistan, there was now a new leader of the Taliban. His name is Muktar Akhtar Mohammed Mansoor. Okay. So he becomes the leader of the Taliban, and he wants to make it more cohesive between the Taliban in Afghanistan, Iran. He's like, I want to bring us closer together. ISIS, he was kind of like, new forming and getting their feet wet. They're like, no, we want to make the Shia a target for ISIS, and we don't want to stop. And Mansoor is like, no, like, you will not target Shia. We will not let it happen. And that's kind of when the big rubber hit the road between ISIS and the Taliban. And so even a number of people left the Taliban then and said, no, we're going to join ISIS. Like, you're being too wishy washy on this subject. And so that is kind of where it started, kind of this being able to attack Shia. But it wasn't exactly to do with iranian senior leadership. It was just having the targets free to still be going after the iranian targets.

How long has this been going on?

I don't know. He was maybe killed maybe six years.

Six years. Who would be. Who do you consider to be more powerful, al Aq, Taliban or ISIS?

I mean, Taliban on paper is the most powerful, but al Qaeda is still the most capable. And then ISIS has just been the one who can get the most press. But when we look at numbers, ISIS doesn't even come close. Right? So, like, if we take all the ISIS in Iraq and Syria, what we think is in Balochistan and the training camps, I mean, ISIS is no more than 20k, right. Between those few countries, 20,000 members. Right?

Okay.

The Taliban alone, in the last two years recruited 170,000 new members to their military. Okay? So the numbers are huge for the Taliban. Al Qaeda in these 30 camps have recruited, like, by the end of this year, they will have 100,000 new trained recruits. Right? So al Qaeda is so much bigger right now than ISIS. They're just not doing the spectacular attacks to get the attention. Right. Because it doesn't benefit them right now, because they want to do these quiet attacks in Iraq and Syria, and everyone think it's ISIS, which they seem to be working successfully, and then they want to focus on the war plan.

Okay. Okay, man. Moving back to Afghanistan, how many of our allies have been captured since we pulled out of there.

Yeah. So these numbers are pretty sombering. I mean, they were asked recently on the House foreign affairs committee and of course, our military leaders didn't even know them. Right. Which is really frustrating. So I'll do like killed, captured. So the number of our allies killed right now is just over 10,000. The number of our allies captured is 30,000. 18,000 of the 30,000 have gone through kind of like this fake justice system. I don't know what you call it. They basically go through whatever Taliban Sharia law court is, and then you get a prison sentence or you get executed or whatever they decide your fate is. 12,000 are completely, completely missing from the ally count. We don't know if they're dead, being tortured. There's all these secret prisons. There's like a GDI has secret prisons. The Moi, the Ministry of interior has a secret prison. The MoD, Ministry of Defense has secret prisons. There's a freaking secret prison in Gecko base. There's a secret prison in Helmand. So it's very unclear. Right. Who of the 12,000 is alive and who's dead. Now I'm just talking allies. So we have 12,000 missing allies. There are 70,000 missing Afghans altogether.

70,000, yes.

That are in one of these secret prisons or dead. And their family has not been modified because they just a cow man came and they disappeared and never saw them again. So the numbers are staggering.

And then I just want to, for the audience who are wondering what allies we're talking about. We're talking about the Afghans that we were partnered with, that we were training, that we were fighting with alongside for 20 years.

Yeah. When I'm talking to allies, I'm pretty much only talking the military and police that worked with us. Basically, there's 200,000 of them in this bucket. Okay. In Afghanistan. So what the Taliban has done is they've gone in and taken their property, taking their homes, right? Taking their properties, taking their businesses. They've pushed them off their land. Heck, they've cut power. I know some that the Taliban cut power two years ago and refused to put it back on like one guy was, because he was a police officer. Like, they won't put the power back on his house. So people need to understand, there's 200,000 of these being impacted just of our allies. They've already killed 10,000 of them. And remember, in the 20 plus years of war we were in, just under 2500 Americans died in two. And a half years, 10,000 of these police and military died. And remember, those aren't the numbers even that include the women who've been killed or any of that. The women, the ones who've been able to report 80,000 have reported rape in the last two and a half years. And 15,000 children have reported rape in the last two and a half years.

And these are people capable of reporting. Most of these people are prisoners in their own house and can't even get out and say, something has happened to me. You know, I've been impacted by something.

Man, that's so. That is just so sad. You know, it. I've seen the videos of what they're doing to them.

Yeah. Oh, the torture videos are horrible that they're sending to Americans.

It's a disgrace.

Mm hmm.

You know, that we just abandoned them like that just at the drop of a dime.

Yep.

What do you think's gonna happen if we have to go back in there? Do you think any of these people are going to partner with Americans ever again?

Yeah. Well, I think they will because a lot of my information comes with people still willing to partner with Americans. Right. The thing is, though, I do not think we should do us troops on the ground because we lost in Afghanistan because of US policy. Us policy is not going to change when we fight a better war against terrorism. No way. I mean, we even see that with why we're trying to dictate Israel's war. Right. The US are not going to go and eliminate a terrorist group in Afghanistan. We don't have it in us. Right. And I watched it. I got to watch it in east Libya. I got to watch General Hoftar do it. Right. He did it the way he needed to do it, and he was very successful. But that is not the way the Americans are going to do it. So I think the Americans should and will end up be supporting the anti taliban resistance, probably the pakistani military, but the pakistani military, we got to deal with some major issues. Right. Especially the fact that they are almost stuck with their only lever being ISIS, which is crazy. Right.

But they need to realize, like, ISIS is not a lever. Right. Like, no good comes from any government who uses ISIS against other groups. Right. So we have to deal something with. We gotta, like, maybe take the money we're giving to Taliban on ISIS and give it to, like, the resistance of Pakistan. Like, we have to do something to break Pakistan, giving ISIS the safe haven. But anyway, because remember, all those years we fought in Afghanistan, terrorists fell back to Pakistan. Right. And luckily, we did capture and kill some there, but that's still a safe haven for them. So even if, let's say we fund the resistance like we're doing Ukraine or something, and they go in, if a bunch of terrorists fall back to Pakistan and they can't action them, we get back to the same situation, right? Like, we have to keep the terrorists contained in Afghanistan and get them in Afghanistan. Like, that is what needs to be done. And we got into this mess with Pakistan years ago when we funded the old mujahideen against the Soviets, right? Think the only way out of this and the only way to deal with this insane terrorist safe haven in Afghanistan is we got to deal with Pakistan and we got to do it with the anti Taliban resistance.

And somehow we got to get the anti Taliban resistance in Pakistan to be like, guess what? Water under the bridge. You know, a lot of bad history, but, like, the future is worse. Like, we have to work together. And I think that's going to be any future of a success, man.

You know, since the last time we spoke, you had mentioned that there are Benghazi terrorists in Afghanistan. Have there been any developments on that?

Mostly just the fact that, like I said, we've confirmed their locations. We told you we've identified. So remember, we found Musa and then we proved that he is making these passports. Right? So that's kind of the key thing we've been working on in terms of Afghanistan. And then, as you can imagine, there's others in the hopper that we think are going to move to Afghanistan and start working on them.

And then are they key players?

Key players.

What do you think they'll be doing?

To be honest, some are probably going to take senior leadership roles in al Qaeda. So we have this second generation issue, if that makes sense. So when the Benghazi attacks happen, we kill the terrorist name Abu Yaquiya al Libi. Right? Sons now, right? Like, where are his sons? There was another senior terrorist, Abu Faraj al Libi. Where are his sons? We had the planner of the Tanya the kenzian Tanzania tax Abu NASA al Libi, that we captured in Libya. His son now is al Qaeda. Right? So there's the second generation that if they didn't grow up in Afghanistan, they now want to move in and do kind of basically what their fathers did and move up in the ranks and be this next generation of al Qaeda, and that's being completely ignored. So we're trying to, at least the best we can in our investigation, try to figure out where these second generation are and the crazy part is he wasn't one of our attackers. But there is a second generation al Qaeda guy. He's now running al Qaeda, kind of in the northern part of Afghanistan. He's the key al Qaeda commander. And his son, of all things, it went the other way.

His son just showed up in Libya. His sons never lived in Libya. He moved to Afghanistan during the mujahideen era. He spent years in Bosnia. The Russians captured him in Bosnia, locked him up. At some point they released him. The son has only ever lived in Afghanistan. And then he just showed up in Libya this week. It's like, okay, now what's going on? So there's this huge gap in the second generation of these tariffs that I don't think anyone is collecting on, man.

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Can you go into that a little bit for the audience?

Yeah, we touched on this in our book. But I want to like give the full details of actually what's happening so people understand. So at least in the case of Benghazi, we have two terrorist families who are using the us justices system to basically do court cases against the people doing the counterterrorism operations against them. So they're basically counting operations against terrorists as war crimes. I mean, if you can understand how this becomes a problem. So the two families, I want to talk about really briefly one of the terrorists that are attacks, his name is Ali al Karsini. Okay, long story short, hey, was with the group Ansar Ashari Benghazi the night of the attacks. Before that he was with the egyptian Islamic Jihad. That was the group that Doctor Ayman al Zawahiri, you know, the head of al Qaeda that directored our attacks. That's the group he originally came from. So Carshini, the night of the attacks, he was one of the commanders. How that terrorist group set it up is each commander for each district in town became the commander of the terrorists under them at the attack. So he was the commander from his district.

And then like all the commanders, he reported to the AQ's head for Libya, for AQim, he was named Omar Shalali. So just so you know, in the structure. So this is one of the senior commanders leading terrorists at a consulate attack. Okay? Then two years later in Libya, they capture, you know, the jordanian ambassador and he holds a jordanian ambassador in his house. He does this actually with the FBI witness I told you about. That's another crime the FBI witness was involved in. Besides killing the intelligence officer, he was involved in the kidnapping of the jordanian ambassador in 2014. So in May of 2014, there's a prisoner exchange. They release a very senior al Qaeda terrorist and the jordanian ambassador gets freed. Okay? So the Libyan National army obviously sets up operation to go after the property. As you can imagine, the ambassador was held at. So in October of that year, they raid the property, the Carshini house where the ambassador was kept. They found millions upon millions of us dollars, Libyan Dinar, weapons, official documents for Ansar Hashari, Benghazi, all in this family compound. Okay? During the raid, the terrorist who attacked us, Carshini, died.

His family that owns that house are suing General Hoftar right now in a us court for this raid that killed like the terrorists that attacked us. Isn't that crazy? So that's one piece of the court case. The second piece is another family called the bin Suedes. So the bin Suede's are just a huge terrorist family. Like, I know of ten terrorists in their family. Okay? So it was this little. This cell of their family basically ran in a assassination cell in Benghazi, and they were killing, like, all the police and military, like anyone who wanted to become a judge. You know how I explained how all those assassinations were happening that al Qaeda's Abu Nas al Libi set up? So they were one of these assassination cells? Well, when General Hofthar went to kick off his operation dignity, that's the big counterterrorism operation that started in 2014 against the attack. The neighborhood these terrors lived in said, hey, in this neighborhood we're going to support the Libyan National army. That was Hofter's force. Like, nobody fights the LNA. So as this war is kicking off, one of the first days, like, the LNA are moving around and there's basically gunfire coming from the Swades house.

So the swades, like, when we were in Benghazi, they're the house that had all the black flags. This is a very extreme family. So they start, like, just randomly shooting. I don't even know if they have a target at the point. So that the residents in the neighborhood are like, what the heck are you doing? Instead, they all mobbed the house. And so the residents mobbed the house, and then there was a small group in that neighborhood, one in multiple neighborhoods. It was called, like, guardians of the blood. It was basically like a vigilante group that went after the people who were killing the good guys. So they were involved in this, too. And so they get to the house, and then they actually let, like they said, women and children, you can leave the house. And they left the house, and then it became a whole fight and a gunfire. And then these three, like a father and two sons died. So the Libyan National army weren't even at the house doing this. That family is also involved in the court case here in the United States. A libyan family member. These are no Americans involved.

A libyan family is suing General Hofdar for war crimes. In that case when his people didn't even kill that family. Now, the one thing that that matters to us in Benghazi is this family. Of the ten terrorists I told you about, two family members have been involved in killing Americans. One is Salim bin sued. So he was involved in the 2002 assassination of Larry Foley, the USAID worker in Jordan. Luckily, Jordanians captured him and they executed him two years later. That's how you should be handling tariffs. And then Soleiman, we've never released him yet because I don't have his photo. So if everyone has their photo and they want to send it to me, we can release him. He was one of our 2012 Benghazi attackers. So he was involved in the deaths of ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith. And again, so these terrorist families are getting to use our system. So then you ask, right? How are Libyans able to even afford a court case in America? Because that's what I asked. So the car. Our shinies are very wealthy. So the one with the first terrorists, they run like, kind of like granite companies.

So they're a wealthy family. The suedes were like, poor as crap when we were there. We realized they've become rich over the years a little bit through kind of like shady ngo stuff. But we actually ended up finding out a part of their cases seemed to be funded by the Muslim Brotherhood. What a lot of people don't understand is. So the Muslim Brotherhood is banned in, like, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates. It's not banned in America. And the reason it's not banned in America, which is crazy, right, is because it makes so much money. It's this giant lobbying firm. And I don't like to get political, but it brings a lot of money to the Democratic Party. So I don't think Muslim Brotherhood is going to be banned here. But it's a problem because muslim brotherhood influences things. And Muslim Brotherhood will fund cases in our city, systems that support extremism, different terrorists, things, that type of thing. So in this case, because the Muslim Brotherhood member lives in America, I'm not going to say his name, but here's a little story about three brothers, okay? One lives in America. He's in Virginia. He's a surgeon.

Okay? So he's the one that basically kind of went to these families. Hey, what kind of support do you need from the Muslim Brotherhood? His cover. His Muslim Brotherhood cover United States is. He runs a bunch of libyan american organizations. They have relationships with the State Department. Even a year after our attacks, there is a group letter. It was like, Libyans and american diplomats, and it said, hey, we know Ambassador Stevens died a year ago, but you're kind of ignoring Libya. We want you to do more with the Libyans and the Libyan government. He signed that letter, right? So it's this lobbying thing for Libya. So he's involved, okay? And then he has two brothers he has another brother who was a libyan American, right? So we got an american, we got a libyan politician. The third brother is al Qaeda. So he basically, he's been al Qaeda in. He's been al Qaeda since, like, you know, the nineties. He moved to Bosnia and fought with the mujahideen in the Bosnia war, and then he stayed there. And now he's obviously older. And so what he does now is he facilitates al Qaeda and ISIS members through Europe.

The thing he mostly focuses on is, like, the injured ones, like, they were fought somewhere, and then he brings them to Europe to get medical attention. So one of our attackers that we identified in May, Jabril Alkepti, we actually found out that this third brother, the al Qaeda guy, brought Jabril and nine other ISIS members from Turkey over to Bosnia to get medical treatment. And the interesting part is we got the names of all ten terrorists in our investigation and their passports. And I actually put. It happened in 2016, and I put a little post on it. LinkedIn took it down. Right? It's like they're, like, protecting, like, me talking about ISIS moving around Europe, and they actually took the post down. It's just another one of the censorship things. So, anyway, people need to understand, we don't like to talk about Muslim Brotherhood too much because it gets conspiratorial. But Muslim Brotherhood, you know, is impacting our justice system, and we're allowing them by not banning them. So we need to ban them in America.

Well, that's good intel that everybody needs to hear. Thank you for bringing that up. Let's talk about AQIM. You know, since the attacks, how are they? Are they connected with Afghanistan?

Yeah, I mean, like I told you, you know, that commander on the ground that Khashini reported to was the AQIM head. Right, for Libya. Right. So AQIM carried our attacks on the ground on behalf of coral al Qaeda. What happened recently, and since the last time I came, came here is a bunch of US dollars showed up with a QIm in Africa. And it's like, well, where did this money come from? Right? And I was told, oh, this money was given to the Taliban to fight ISIS. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, this money was given in Kabul? Yes. So money given by the us government in Kabul ended up with AQIM in Africa. Just think about that. You are us dollars that we send bundled on airplanes. So, as you can imagine, that got me pissed. It's like, I've already complained about you funding our attackers, and now you're funding. Basically. You're still funding them a decade later and you're just basically doing it through Afghanistan. So then, as you can imagine, we started looking into how it happened.

Let's get into the money. This is the section I've been waiting on. Let's get into how the US is funding terrorist organizations.

Perfect.

Specifically, you want to start with Taliban?

Yeah. I mean, it'll all go connect. So this is just to be a long response, probably, but I want to talk about the buckets of money first, if that makes sense.

Yeah, please do.

So there's three big buckets of money and then we focused on the third. So the first bucket of money is it was to $7 billion. And this was just basically the bank reserves the government of Afghanistan owned when it fell. Does that make sense? So it was offsite. Right. It was here. So $7 million? 7 billion. $7 billion. So basically what the us government has done with the $7 billion is they split it in half and said, we're going to give 3.5 billion to the victims of 911. If anyone from victims of 911 have gotten any of this $3.5 billion, which is earning insane interest monthly, please let me know because I've yet to meet someone besides lawyers who made any money. So someone needs to be on this 3.5 billion that the US siphoned off and figure out where it is, what's happening to it and what people are doing with it. So we didn't even look into that piece. So the other 3.5 billion got taken and put in a swiss bank account is. So what we saw from. So, in Libya, there was 200 billion that went missing. Okay. Completely different situation.

$200 billion of Gaddafi's money is, like, gone. So we get very concerned when something moves to Switzerland. So 3.5 billion moves to Switzerland and now this is given to the Taliban. So the 3.5 billion belongs to the Taliban government. It's overseen by four individuals in Switzerland, a state Department officer, which is crazy. Like, I could see Department of treasury, commerce, like, put a real money person on it. So a State Department officer, a swiss diplomat, and then two Afghans. One Afghan. Kind of makes sense. He was basically the kind of the head of their finance department way back when. Kind of when the Taliban first started taking over. He at least has a background. And then the last Taliban guy. It's very strange. I don't like to say rumors, but there might be some sort of nepotism that got them into that role. And the nepotism might involve family connected to our envoy. So we have an envoy to Afghanistan, Tom west. Lots of issues involving him and his sympathies towards the Taliban. Even after the fall of Afghanistan, actually said, we will do anything at all costs to recognize the Taliban. So this is the broker we have.

Right. He will do anything at all costs to recognize the Taliban. Are you kidding me? Right? So this guy's already a problem. So these are the people. So it's just these four people overseeing this $3.5 billion. It's already earned like over 180 million in interest. And then, so I've asked around to see, has a Saliban taken any money from it? And then I get mixed responses. Some people say they haven't touched it. Some people say, well, we think they paid some. They owed Uzbekistan all this money for. It's kind of like electricity bills. And they did pay off Uzbekistan. Some say it came for that money. Some say they don't. The interesting part in the Uzbekistan piece is the Taliban is paying them off and clearing those debts. Because if you remember, it was like around June, in June of 2021, before the fall of Kabul, the US military actually told the pilots, hey, in case of emergency, fly the planes to Uzbekistan. That's why all those planes flew in Pakistan. US military, like, texted and told afghan pilots to do that. So all these planes, as you can imagine, are still sitting in Uzbekistan and the Taliban want the planes back.

Right. So they're trying to make nice with Uzbekistan to give the planes back. Like Uzbekistan, don't give the planes back. So anyway. So that's that. So anyway, 3.5 million Taliban has access to. Okay, who. Billion, billion, billion.

Can I ask who's the state Department official overseeing this?

I don't know the name of the State Department person.

Do you think it's a. I mean, it's obviously a Taliban sympathizer, correct?

Most likely. So that's that. I didn't really look at that money because obviously the 3.5 billion is not where the money came from, AQim. Right. So then there's a second pocket of money, which everyone tells us is the 40 million a week that comes on the airplane and comes into Afghanistan. The interesting part is I was like, well, is it 40 million a week? Right. Because you got to ask these questions because, you know, there's not been a lot of honesty. So the plane comes in weekly. The amount of money on the plane weekly is 43 million to 87 million. Like, that's a big stretch. If you tell me it has 40 million on the plane and the plane is arriving with $87 million. So let's just talk about the 40 million pieces. So the 40 million piece gets taken from the plane, it's brought to Afghanistan International bank, which as you can imagine, is making so much money off the exchange of this insane amount of money weekly. And then it's supposed to then go all to humanitarian aid. Right. It's obviously not happening that way. 70% is getting siphoned off and going to Taliban only causes, and the majority of that is to the Taliban military.

So the way the Taliban is doing it, I mean, they're doing the most basic thing, like bribes, but that doesn't get you to 70%. Then they've done this thing where they. Every ngo that collects money from this pot of the 40 million has to have a Taliban representative, basically, like on their board. So Taliban has complete control as a board member of where the money goes. The last part, which is the smartest thing they did, is, as you can imagine, there's a lot of these longstanding NGo's in Afghanistan the State Department has relationships with. Well, Taliban just went in and gutted them completely and put all Taliban in them. So State Department will say, oh, we've had a twelve year relationship with them. We have this record, and they're not being honest and telling you, oh, oh, well, the ngo we had a relationship with, none of them worked there anymore. And it's all now just Taliban. So that's the key way they're siphoning this money. So I'm not going to spend too much time on that bucket. But one thing I want Americans to understand is in that bucket of the 40 million we send each week, we are paying basically welfare to the Taliban martyrs family.

So every Taliban member who died during the war with us, the us government, is paying them a stipend, the family. So our families of Americans who died there aren't getting squat, but we are paying Taliban families for basically dying while attacking us.

Whoa.

Yes, we're funding that.

This is just enraging.

And, you know, I asked a couple of people that question straight out, like, do you not think this is not ethically correct? And actually one person gave me an answer of, well, it'll stop them from joining ISIS. I'm like, the Taliban guy's already dead. Like, they give you these bullshit excuses as to why they're funding our enemies.

But I think that's a huge problem in America to begin with, is making.

Excuses for terrorists sympathizing and not paying attention to the fucking money. Okay, so that's bucket two, bucket three. Is the most interesting. Right. So bucket three is the IsIs dollars. Right. So nobody knows the amount of the ISIS dollars because there's all these classified annexes on the Doha deal that have never been released. Congress needs to release them because it's time that we know what they say. But anyway, so the last. That other money on the airplane is the ISIS dollars. Okay, so guess what was done.

What?

Well, what do you do? That's. What do people do when they like to follow terrorists around? We followed the money. So the money supposed to. All the money in the airplane is supposed to go to the Afghan International bank and go to humanitarian aid. Well, a big chunk of the money comes off the airplane and goes other places. And it has eight stops. So you ready for them? I'll just do the eight stops and then we'll talk through each of them because it'll be easier and maybe I'll remember it better. First stop. So this is the delivery weekly of us dollars. It goes to the prime minister of the Taliban. So his name is Mul Mohammed Hassan Akun. Okay, the second delivery goes to my favorite person, the deputy prime minister, Mullah Barader. The third delivery goes to the GDi, who I told you is Taliban CIA. It's run by Abdul Hawk Waseek. If you remember, he was one of the ones released for Bergdahl so far, by the way, Mohammed number one, Bredar and Wasik, these are all sanction designated terrorists. So all three of these deliveries are against us and international law, by the way.

Okay, the next delivery goes to the Ministry of Interior, which I told you already is led by Surajahdin Haqqani. And that's where all the passports are being made for terrorists. The fifth one, Saraj, is double dipping. Then they do delivery to his house. So delivery number five goes to the home of Sriranjeddin Haqqani, which should blow people's mind. This man sent 1050 suicide bombers at US and NATO troops. Over 1000 suicide bombers were sent by him alone. And the US is dropping cash off at his house weekly like it's mind blowing. Then I'm almost losing track where we are. The next delivery goes to hai Battula Akunzada, who's the head of the Taliban. The next delivery goes to Saifal Otto, who is basically the head of al Qaeda's military commission. And then the last delivery goes to three people. But I think we wait. Cause if I do that one, we're gonna have to talk about the first seven deliveries, if that's okay. We'll come back.

Let's start with number one.

Yeah. So number one, like I said, prime minister of the Taliban, designated. He's an interesting fella. He is, basically. So he got put in his role because they thought, hey, he's long time Mullah Omar supporter. He will stay in line with the Taliban like he's the right person for the job. The interesting part is publicly, he backs the head of Taliban on everything privately because during those 20 years we were fighting, he got very, very wealthy off Taliban funds and did a lot of investments in Pakistan. So he has, like, these natural leanings towards the Pakistanis because he has huge financial investments there. So he's kind of a little two faced. He's playing the Taliban and playing Pakistan. Right. So in case he needs the fallback location of Pakistan. And what a lot of people don't know is he's not going to be in his position long because hypatula has been trying to move him out. He's trying to put his chief of staff there. But he has cancer. And so he's having to go to Pakistan for cancer treatments, as you can imagine, because 5 million people fled Afghanistan and who all fled? The educated, the good doctor.

So he has to go to Pakistan to get proper medical attention because he can't get in Afghanistan. So that's basically our first delivery. Second delivery, like I told you, goes to Muller Breeder, who we already talked about. Right. Went to Iran, made this deal with the Iranians and al Qaeda to send al Qaeda guys to attack us and israeli troops. Huge violation of the Doha deal. Just, just the Iran, you know, just this Iran deal. Huge violation. Right. There are so many violations of this Doha deal we have with the Taliban, and no one's negating it and keeps letting this money come. But even well before the fall of Kabul, there is a huge violation of the Doha deal. Like the Taliban detained an American named Mark Frykes. Right. And basically what happened is we had a special envoy before west who was just as bad as West, Ross Wilson, and he knew the Taliban detained Mark and they downplayed it because they didn't want this fake peace deal to go through. So, like, no, it's not the Taliban. It's people trying to rune peace. And they downplayed it, downplayed it, downplayed it. And then, of course, around the fall of Kabul is when we got Mark, like, after we got Mark back after the fall site and we released him for the number one narco trafficker in Afghanistan that the Taliban were under.

Right. So the Taliban had him the whole time. Basically, the State Department lied and downplayed it to keep the Doha deal going. So just let you know this.

Can you explain the Doha deal real quick so everybody understands what that is?

Yeah. Honestly, I don't even understand the Doha deal, but, yeah, Doha deal was essentially the US brokered what they call a peace deal, but it's not. They brokered a deal only with the Taliban for the future of Afghanistan. And in this deal, basically, they made all these promises. And unfortunately, the promises aren't a lot of these secret annexes, but they made a bunch of promises to the Taliban, not to the allies. We've been fighting for 20 years that we would stop supplying the afghan military. The Taliban in return would stop, like, attacking us. Like, there's all this, like, back and forth. But essentially we made all the promises that we were first going to abandon the afghan military for the Taliban and then we were going to leave completely. And then we gave the Taliban a bunch of concessions and then the Taliban wasn't allowed to commit attacks against us and do all these type of things.

Okay. Yeah. I thought it was something about bringing peace to Afghanistan for the next 20.

Plus years, which isn't true. Yeah. So what a lot of people don't realize, they call it a peace deal. That's just the lie that's putting, like, pain on a pig. This deal was only a negotiation with the Taliban. It did not include, like, parliament, it didn't include the afghan military. It didn't include any kind of different sectarian groups in Afghanistan. It was the US and the Taliban. So just so everybody knows, this was only a deal with the enemy. It would never have brought peace to Afghanistan because we only dealt with the bad guys in Afghanistan. We didn't even include the good guys. And then we screwed the good guys over by taking all supplies from them and let them fall. Right. So this was to give, basically, Afghanistan, which ended up being back to the Taliban, because somehow in our government, they think that the Afghans want the Taliban. It's a broken system. I saw it already forming in 2010. They were doing reconciliation with the Taliban and the train had left the station. And this is kind of like the end result of really bad assessment.

I got another question before we move on to bucket three. But I don't want to. So you had mentioned that on the plane. I believe you said there is Taliban money and ISIS money.

Well, money to fight ISIS. So it's all Taliban.

Okay. Money defied. Okay. I misunderstood, then I was, okay, no worries. That negates it.

Don't start any rumors.

All right? Now, thank you for clarifying. So. All right. Bucket three.

Okay. Yeah. So, I gotta remember who we talked about now. Yeah. GDI. Right. So we spent a lot of time on GDI, so I don't think we have to do much on GDI. But again, it's Taliban's intel organization, and obviously, they're holding Ryan Corbett and secretly, another American in a cell. Then the fourth one is Ministry of interior. We spent a lot of time on that. The interesting part, though, is when we talk about this threat to us from these fake passports, but there's also a threat going on, as you can imagine, to our allies. So, you know, I'm saying they capture 30,000, but then there's, like, 70,000 missing. Total. They killed 10,000. They're able to do this because they're using biometrics. Right? Biometrics we left behind. Those biometrics sit in the Ministry of Interior building. Right. So I want people to understand, like, the Taliban are, like, really targeting these people, and that's how they're. Like, they're finding them and getting them. What a lot of people don't understand is kind of within the first year after the fall, the Tao men didn't really have the biometrics up and running, so they almost faked it.

Right? Like, I once worked at a theme park, and we had an annual pass, and, like, you stuck it in the machine, and then you put your fingerprint on. But the fingerprint didn't work. It was just to dissuade people from handing their pass, you know, so you thought it was fingerprint enabled. And so the Taliban, for kind of a year, faked, hey, our biometrics are working. Then they went to, like, the Chinese and the Iranians, and they said, hey, help us fix. We can't get this all working. So they got the system working, and then they got it deployed on mobile devices. Right. So now it's at the border crossings. So I want Afghans to understand, if you went through a border crossing, like, six months after the fall and you were fine, don't assume you're fine now, because they didn't have it working then, even though they pretended it. Now they do. So they have the entire passport database working, the entire criminal database. They have the entire pay system for the Ministry of Interior and the afghan army. So, you know, our allies, they have the entire pEi system for the NDS, which was the Afghan CIA, and they have the entire pay system for the supreme Court.

So this is what the Taliban. Taliban is basically using these pay systems to then go find the allies so they know they have the right guy because it tied back to their damn payroll.

That's terrifying.

So you could change your name, but doesn't matter. They'll take your fingerprint and say, oh, we know exactly who you are. It's so horrible. It's like the biggest case of targeting I've ever seen. And they're doing it successfully, and they're allowed to, and they're getting away with it.

How long has this been happening?

I mean, it's been running pretty good for at least since we found Musa. It's been at least up and running six months. Like, fully running. Obviously, it took time as they put pieces into place, but they have access to all of it now.

Damn. These guys don't have a chance.

I know. I mean, we left them for the slaughter. I mean, there's no other way to put it.

Let's go on to the next one.

Yeah, so then the next one is Surah din Hakani. I mean, we've spent a lot of time on Surajah Dinakani, but they're so much on Surajah din Haqqani. Like, it's almost one. Like, it's like I even want to explain more. Right? I mean, obviously we explained he has this relationship with Boko Haram. He has the al Qaeda and Libya relationship. He has, you know, the ISKP. He also, though, has the Pakistan relationship. So many, many years ago, when the US and the Pakistanis funded the mujahideen, one of the people we funded was father Jalaludin Haqqani, their huge compound in Waziristan. Like, the United States built that, right? So the Haqqanis are almost pakistani, right? And so Siraj basically plays the Pakistan side of things, too, because remember, he has this war with the Kandahari Taliban. I mean, I think it's either Suraj is gonna end up dead or Haibetullah is gonna end up dead. But maybe not. Maybe one just gets pushed out. So Saharaj plan is worse comes to worst, I fall back to Waziristan. Pakistan supports me. So Siraj is playing some interesting games. So one of the things he did recently to appease the Pakistanis is Pakistan, like I told you, has been complaining.

Hey, all these weapons are showing up. These m four s, M 16. Siraj, you gotta do something about this. You know? So he's like, okay. And he does this weird pandering to them because they're like, take the weapons from TTP. So instead of taking the weapons from TTP, what they asked him to do, he did this weird thing where. So the Haqqanis have a special operations unit called the Bhajri unit, okay? They recruited a bunch of waziris, pakistani waziristan people. They gave them, like, money, cars, houses. They're like, join our unit. So they then became a part of the Bajri unit. So what Suraj did to appease the Pakistanis, he just took the weapons from the Waziris in the Bajra unit. He didn't go, take weapons from TTP. And so he goes, hey, guys, I gotta take these weapons back. They belong the government of Afghanistan. You're not Afghan. Some weird thing. And then a lot of them were like, screw you. And then just went and joined TTP. So the weird part is, Taliban does all these, like, really kind of racist things within Taliban ranks. Like, even, like, in the north, there was Taliban who were kind of, like, ethnically, like, Uzbek or Taj or something.

The Taliban were like, I don't care if you've been Taliban for 20 years. Like, we're still taking your land. You're not like a Pashtun or whatever. So they do all these things. And so, yeah, so I guess Suraj thinks he answered the mail what Pakistan asked for, and I guess they're happy with it. But he just took weapons from, like, his own people that weren't TTP. So. So anyway, he. So Siraj is just. He's just playing all the sides. And I want to talk about the piece he plays with the United States.

Okay?

So his piece with the United States is really interesting. He's playing this ploy of, hey, we can't give women's education because Haibatula and the Kandahari Taliban are in the way. The head of the ministry of education is a haqqani. Okay? Haqqanis can do whatever they want with the Ministry of education. What they're focused on is these jihadi madrasas. So they have a $300 million budget to make all these jihadi madrasas, and they want to train, like, 500,000 students through these. Right? That's their focus. Their focus is training this next generation of terrorists. They're leading the US on, and then they're playing the women card to get as much as they can from the US, and then they're pushing it off and pushing it off. So finally, when they give some sort of crappy, terrorist led women education, it'll be enough, and we'll be exhausted by it, and everyone will be fine and will tell the women of Gaston stand, just settle for that. So the US is playing that piece, and Haqqani's playing that piece, and they're using Haqqani's brother and Nasaqani. He's kind of like the Jamie Lynn Spears to Sirosh. He ain't a rock star, but he's where we have that relationship.

And then, remember I told you we play the Kandahari side of the Taliban, and on that side of the Taliban, our relationships with Mula Omar, our son, Mula Yaqub. But, yeah, so Siraj has gotten really smart to play the women's education, and then our state department's just falling for it. And then they're like, oh, Siraj is a better choice between the two Taliban sides because he believes in women's education. It's like, what? This is a suicide bomber guy? Like, none of these. There is no good taliban, right? But our government can't get over there, like, the Taliban sympathizers. They just need to, like, fire him and move them out. So, like, the rest of level head of people can start making these decisions.

Moving on.

Yeah. So I think we're at Haibatula. If I missed someone. Sorry. So, again, Haibatula's head of the Taliban. Okay, so haiba tula is making so much bank. Like, so this is several million dollars.

This is the guy double dipping.

So this. No, this is. No, this is. That was a prime minister.

Okay?

This is the. This is the supreme religious leader.

Okay?

Like, this is the Mula Omar.

Gotcha.

Okay. So Haibatullah gets this from us. He gets a stipend from, like, the Iranians. He reportedly gets a stipend from the Russians. He gets money from the Indians, which actually. Maybe I should go off the indian piece, is really interesting. So he's getting all this money, and then he's kind of the controller of the chinese money. And so the chinese money is $10 billion of investments. Okay? 10 billion. So the chinese investments, as everyone knows, is kind of the minerals, the lithium, all the mines, whatnot. There's two really important pieces, though. One is of the $10,000,003 of every $10 gets allocated to al Qaeda, so they get 30%. And so al Qaeda takes the money, and then they keep some for themselves, and then they give some to affiliates like the TTP. And let's like, Imu. That's the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. Okay?

Okay.

And Imu is one of those groups. Remember when I told you. All these terrorist groups are sending terrorists to the border. So it was al Qaeda. This is last time. Afghan Taliban, ISIS, Imu is another one of the terrorist groups sending terrorists to our southern border, just FYI. So anyway, so, yeah, so just think about that. Three of every $10 to 3 billion of that 10 billion went straight to al Qaeda off the top. So then the other part that totally gets forgotten. Everyone's like, yeah, they want the lithium, blah, blah, blah. There's a whole different thing China cares about. China has made a deal with the Iranians, and the deal is basically, if the US comes to war with us in China and shit hits the fan, we're going to get oil from you. And so Afghanistan is actually going to be used as the land route for the iranian oil because China's worried that us are going to cut off the oil supplies that come from, like, South America or Africa. So now they're going to have a land route for the oil. So that's really key to understand, like, China has a bigger thing than I want to mine, and I think people are, like, losing thought of this.

And then, just as a funny thing, China decided Bagram is one of the more key strategic bases in the world, and now Baraguum is where the chinese pmcs are based. So can I do India?

Let's do it.

I hate doing. I hate those people who do sidebars. But the India piece is so fascinating, and I kind of tripped over it. So I was trying to find the US money, but then there's all these other pots of money, right? And so then you're kind of like, okay, what's happening with them? So in India does this thing where they give a little bit of money. So I told you how there's Mulayaquar's son, so he has another brother, Dawood. And India kind of works with Dawood, and they give him money, and it's just kind of like the little things they do with the blue cheese, like the blue Liberation army, bla and TTP. And it's like the things they do to poke Pakistan. You know, that crap. So, you know, so they have that going on, which I knew about. So then I hear, hey, they gave $10 million to Mullah Yaqub. So they went up a step and then. So it's like, well, what's this 10 million for? What are they doing with it? The 10 million went to fund Gecko base. You remember Gecko base? I mean, I've never worked in Gecko base.

Yes. So you know Gecko base. I know some of your audience does. So Gecko base now is the location where Haibatula. So, the supreme leader of the Taliban, that is where his personal security is. So then it's like, okay, the indian government, or probably intel service, is funding Haibatula's personal security. Now, isn't that weird? So, of course, I'm like, this makes no sense. And it's not even tons of money compared to what we're putting in. So I have all these questions, okay? So it's like, what is India getting? And also, really, what's the Taliban getting? Because they don't give a damn about $10 million. So this is going to sound like the craziest thing ever. Okay? But what the Indians and the Taliban are doing, I kid you not, is India is using Taliban's network to assassinate kashmiri militants in Pakistan.

Are you serious?

I swear to God. Yeah, I know this leaves so many questions, but yes. So they've been doing all these hits. So they've been killing all these kashmiri militants. They've been killing a bunch of sikh militants. I don't know anything about the sikh part, so if anyone's interested in that part. I've only looked at the kashmiri piece. So, yeah, so they're using, they say, the Taliban networks, and then they're doing these assassinations. They're happening all over Pakistan, like, in Lahore and Karachi and et cetera. So then I was like, well, still, this is really risky for the Taliban. If people find out, it seems like it could rock the boat. Like, they're using their networks. Plus, are the Taliban networks that good to take out senior crash married people? Maybe. Maybe they're not. So the interesting part is, now my theory is India gains what they're gain, right? They want. These are terrorists that they have. Some of these guys they've wanted for 30 years. Okay? I went through a list of 18 of them. So the interesting part is, I don't know if they're all dead. Some of them, Pakistan could have heard India's coming to kill them, and they might have them in a safe house.

So there's 18 targeted. Okay? And I went through all 18 to make sure I knew who they were, because I've worked Kashmir forever and to see what group they were. And so I went through all of them, and they were the groups you can imagine, Lashkar, Etayba, Jaishe Mohammed, Hezbollah, Mujahideen. The last one was al Badr Mujahideen. Not one of the 18 were from Haricot ul Mujahideen. This matters because Haibatullah, when he was young, he got his religious teaching from a guy named Fazel Rahman Khalil he founded whom they're still close friends. And some of the money that goes to Haibetullah from us, he gives to whom in their madrasas. So I have a theory. So the assassinations are happening. Taliban's supporting. I have a theory. Taliban and Hum have decided to work together to use India because they want it anyway. And they're bumping off the kashmiri militants who are aligned to Pakistan. So the problem with the kashmiri militants and why the Taliban can't use them, as you can imagine, is they're pakistani nationalists. Right? So there's a Fatah war plan, but in the future, there's the Kashmir war plan. But there's no potential of doing the Kashmir war plan anytime soon because all the leaders of the kashmiri militant groups are aligned with Pakistan and Pakistan's military and Pakistan's ISI.

Now, if you start taking out the old guard of leaders, which it seems like the Taliban and whom might be doing with India, but India doesn't actually understand that's what's happening and why they're invested in it, you take out the old guard, all the new guard of kashmiri militants, after they trained in Kashmir, guess who they fought in Afghanistan with the Taliban against? Americans. The new generation of kashmiri militants are more aligned to the Taliban and al Qaeda than they are to the PAC military. So they're creating this whole new Kashmir landscape that nobody has thought about and nobody's ready for, but it's gonna be ready in the future when the war plan moves to Kashmir. The Taliban and al Qaeda have thought this far ahead. Wow, is that crazy?

These guys are really strategic.

Yeah. Like, their plans are big, but their plans are long, too. We have people that work on something for a year, even. It's China. Right. We have someone who works on account for a year or two. China's thinking in, like, 100 years. Like, we aren't prepared to, like, deal with the threats the way they're doing it. So that's the end of the Taliban parts of the deliveries, and then we'll move to al Qaeda. And so every single delivery except, you know, one was a building. Every single one of those deliveries, every one of those tariffs are sanctioned, and every delivery is against us law. So then we move to al Qaeda. So the next delivery, like I told you, was Saifal Otto. He runs the military commission of al Qaeda. He's also the de facto head of al Qaeda external operations. So he's planning all the attacks against us, and he's who the us government lies and says is the head of al Qaeda. So even if they were right, which they're not, they're also still paying weekly the head of al Qaeda, which is a problem. Okay, you ready for. Do you have any clue who the last three are at the last delivery?

Enlighten me.

Okay. They are the top three of al Qaeda. At any chance you know who the top three of al Qaeda are? Well, you know, Hamza. I told you. Hamza. So, okay, number one is Hamza bin Laden, designated terrorist? They won't admit he's alive. Number two, Assad bin Laden, the deputy leader of al Qaeda, is. Is Saad bin Laden. So the top two heads of al Qaeda are bin Ladens. Do you have any idea the last name of the third guy?

Bin Laden?

Yes. The number three of the Taliban is Abdullah bin Laden. He's not even designated. So if every terrorist we delivered money to, he's the only one we legally can give money to. So, yeah, please designate Abdullah bin Laden as a terrorist. So, yeah, so Hamza's running it, his deputy, Saad, and then Abdullah is running kind of what would be if you were the coo of an organization. So he's running the business operations side of al Qaeda. And then Sifal Otto is running the, like, fighting operations side. So those are the four senior leaders of al Qaeda. And all four, the us money gets delivered to us dollars, cash, from our airplane deliveries.

Why has the US been lying about Hazam's death?

Yeah. So basically with Hans Hamza. Oh, no worries. I don't know why they're still lying. Okay. And I'm gonna be really honest. The people trying to get this information out, like, bad things happen to them. So, long story short, the person who made sure the information got out in September 2021 that Hans is alive, he has been captured, tortured and killed by the Taliban. Okay. So there's good people trying to get this information out on the Taliban, and they're dying for it. Right? And we're still lying about who's heading the Taliban while people are dying trying to tell us, like, this is a huge problem. So I'm gonna go back in time to when Honza was reportedly dead because I think that timeframe is more important. So I'm gonna do a lot of caveats on this. Okay. So in 2019, Hamza bin Laden was reported as dead. Okay. In a strike five months later, reportedly afghan officials found out he didn't actually die. And they provided a picture to the us government where that picture went, who it was shared with at the time, I don't know. The one thing I do know is, like I told you, when I stopped working Taliban in 2010, it was like the train left the station.

Taliban reconciliation is happening. The State Department is going to make it happen at all costs. All the intel collect was focused on reconciliation, not the terrorist activities, et cetera, et cetera. Right? They were going to make reconciliation happen. There's one thing that can stop a peace deal or whatever, and that would be, as you can imagine, if it benefits the bin Ladens, right? It doesn't even matter if it was Trump. Obviously, it's Trump who did the deal, but any leader who shows up at 911, you know, after the attacks is never going to make a deal with al Qaeda. Right? So there's something about Hamza bin Laden that he was better dead. So I hate saying this because I honestly don't think the president knew, and it's going to be a big problem. So Hamza bin Laden has four wives. Okay? Everybody knows the second wife, it was like a video. I told you it was Abu Mohammed al Masri, member who's now the head of al Qaeda in Africa. He had a first wife he married just before her. Do you have any clue whose daughter she might be?

I don't.

Mullah Omar.

No way.

So Hamza bin Laden is married to the wife of Mullah Omar. They've been married since he was 17 years old. Five years after 911. Any peace deal with the Taliban was also a peace deal with the bin Ladens because they are married to each other, and it's worse. So Hamza does have a son every lot of people know about named Osama bin Laden. Everyone assumes Osama bin Laden is miriam's son. So is Abu Musab's grandson. I mean, Abu Mohammed's grandson. Osama bin Laden, the next heir to al Qaeda, is the grandson of Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. So our peace deal with the Taliban was with the bin Ladens. There was no way to give all these things to the Taliban and all this cast to the Taliban. And it not also go to the bin Ladens because they're the same family. They don't just work together.

Can you go just for the audience, can you refresh our memories on Abdullah Omar?

Yeah. So Mullah Omar? Yeah, Mullah Omar, very simple. You know how we talked about the first delivery, the Mohammed Assam guy, the one has cancer. Six of these men, way back in the day, in the nineties, got together, they created the Taliban. The Taliban at the time was created for a reason. That almost makes sense. So after the mujahideen era and the soviet war ended, like, Afghanistan was just this criminal landscape. Right. Nobody was in charge. There was no law and order. There was so much crime. And so these six men were like, we're gonna create this thing, the Taliban, and we're gonna bring law and order and safety and protect women. You know, they love saying protect women because you just want to lock them up. And so they created the Taliban. So Mullah Omar created the Taliban. And then, obviously, Mullah Omar is the person who then gave Osama bin Laden refuge in Afghanistan. And then, of course, that's where the 911 got planned out of Afghanistan.

Thank you. Thank you. Man. It's. This just keeps getting worse.

Mm hmm.

And worse.

Yeah. Tell your president the truth. I think that should be rule one.

Yeah, no kidding. Right? So of the three bin Ladens that are in power, I guess, is what we call it. Right. What do you think their plans are for the US or just in general?

I know. Well, so they're. They do want to do something in retaliation for their father. I don't know what that is exactly. And then remember, they are intimately involved in the Syria and Iraq deployments. And then the fatal war plan. That's them, too. So, you know, that's the bin Ladens, that's the Taliban, that's al Qaeda and the Indo subcontinent. And then remember I told you that political party in Pakistan. So they're all in the same plan, and they're all on the same page. Now, the sons want to do some of the things their father did not do. Right? So they want to create, as we've kind of discussed, a larger caliphate. They want to create an actual base in Africa and be successful with it because Osama wanted to create, you know, a base in Libya. Right. That's why that started. And the base started in Benghazi. That was Osama bin Laden's plan. A lot of people are confused by that, so they want to do the same. And that's why we think it's Mali is this next al Qaeda base they're trying to do. And then their father had this view of this islamic army that we've talked about, this idea of, hey, it's us against the west, it's Islamists views against everyone, even Muslims who aren't extreme.

Right? We want an army, and we want a united front that is like the terrorists. And we don't care if you're sunni if you're shia, right? Like we want to bring together. We even want to bring Isis in. So they've slowly been working on the relationships to form this islamic army. You know, bin Laden tried this in Benghazi and it was. It ended up being. It took a couple years to get running, so it was after he died, but it ended up being the Benghazi revolutionary Shura council is what it was called. And then they made a couple other branches and then they tried again and they did call it what they wanted to the islamic army. And it was started in eastern Libya. The interesting part, it was the same. And then as things happened, the groups didn't stay together. It became ISIS, al Qaeda fought it, it became a nightmare. And then to be really interesting is the guys leading it, like, have disappeared. Like, Libyan National army didn't kill them. Like, so I don't even know. So, yeah, the islamic army guys from darn, they're like in the wind. I don't even know where they are.

And potentially they weren't attackers, so I'm not following them, but potentially they could be in Afghanistan. But, yeah, so there is this goal of this giant islamic army of like minded terrorist groups, but that's a lot longer out.

Do you think there's a big event planned, like September 11?

I think whatever is the plan for the. I do think there's some smaller things, like the embassy things. I think whatever the bin Ladens want for the father is probably going to be. They're gonna have to elevate it to that level, at least attempt to.

Yeah, yeah.

But they already have a win, right? I mean, they got Afghanistan. I know they want more for their father. Right. But remember, the people who've come out of the last 20 years are the bin Ladens.

Yeah.

They have more fighters now, they have more money now. They got a whole damn country. And the US ignores them and won't even admit that they're there, that they're resurging. They won't even say who the leader is. Like, we basically cover for their activities, too. And we're even lying that they're the ones attacking us. Some of the times in Iraq and Syria, isn't that crazy? Just like they lied about al Qaeda and Benghazi. Some of these attacks in Iraq and Syria, they're like, oh, it's iranian proxies. No, some of those attacks are al Qaeda. You need to say if they're al Qaeda, that they're al Qaeda.

I just don't understand why they're covering for them, why we're financing them. I don't. Do you have any insight into that? Why. Why are we doing this?

The State Department can barely run a embassy, and we haven't. Running these. These big things. I have no idea. It's. I think there's some terrorist sympathizing problem. I think there's incompetence. I think people are right that a lot of this money moving around becomes a little bit of money laundering and people make money off of it. And that is an incentive, as you know, people care about money more than they care about their country. Right. Sadly.

It's a real shame.

And people care about their politics a lot more than country. And that's the problem we're in right now. Right. No one will just be honest and say, this is wrong. Fix it. It's like, well, if my party's doing it, maybe it's wrong, but at least it's my party, and that's better than someone else doing it, right? It's insane.

That's what I was alluding to earlier when I was saying that nobody's. I think I was talking about nobody taking accountability and making excuses for their political party, their favorite candidate, whatever it is. You know, it really is. I mean, there's. We're in a very divided country, but it's both. It's just both parties that are doing this.

Exactly.

Yeah.

They're benefiting by dividing us, and then we are participating in it every time we allude to it. Right?

Yeah. Yeah.

Or dine a hill for one of these losers who are representing us.

It's a real shame. How powerful is al Qaeda now in Afghanistan versus pre 911?

So al Qaeda is definitely more powerful now than 911. Is al Qaeda more powerful now than al Qaeda in Iraq was? I don't know. Right. Cause al Qaeda in Iraq got very powerful, and that was a huge resurgence. But they're gonna surpass that, right? That's their goal. So al Qaeda will be the biggest. It is the big. It's bigger than it was in 911? It will be the biggest it's ever been in the next year. I have no doubts, man.

I don't know what to say. You've dropped so much information here. It's like drinking from the fire hose and it's alarming. It's a raging. It. I'm scared for our country. I'm very scared for our country.

I just find it frustrating that, you know, we're the GwAT generation, right? We have people from our generation in Congress, and they gonna show up to work tomorrow.

Right.

And be fine that this money's going to the Taliban. Like, what the hell are they doing? Like, do your damn jobs. Like, do the right thing. Like, you're an american. Stand up for american ideals. Like, we need to get back to being american. And it has to be our generation at this point, because our generation are becoming the leaders. You're the one that fought in these worries. You know exactly what we're talking about. You know exactly the people we're talking about. And you know exactly what funding them is going to do.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll see if that happens. More and more. More and more are coming out, though, you know, and our starting campaigns and our trying to get into government, it's. It's. It's. Unfortunately, you see a lot of them when they get in there and they get sucked right into the cesspool.

Yep.

I've seen it firsthand, and it's a. It's a. It's a real shame.

We have a system where basically the person who can earn the most money for their party gets elected, right. So now they're in a position, and they have so many ious, and it's just an unhealthy situation. Right. Really. I do think there should be some sort of campaign finance laws because you're never going to get the best person if you just get the best salesman or the best fundraiser, the best guy that'll, like, pat your back.

Yeah, very true. Very true. But. Well, sir, before we wrap it up, is there anything else? Anything else at all?

Thank you so much. In my head. If you want to get me going, we could go another 4 hours, but I don't know if either of us have any energy.

Man, I can't take anymore. But. Well, hey, I just want to say thank you for coming back. And like I said, you are the most requested repeat guest we've ever had. And I know I'm gonna see you again, and I can't. I mean, it sounds weird to say this. I can't wait to see what you drop next time.

Oh, gosh. I don't want to drop anything. I want people to go after these terrorists finally, so I can retire. I'm getting old, too.

What do. What is the number one request? Here's a question.

Sure.

This is a great one to end with. What is the number one request from our allies, the resistance. What do they want the us to do?

Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I thought when I went to ask them, so obviously I had to reach out to a lot of people to understand the money thing. And so I asked all of them this question, right? And I thought a lot of them would say air support or something like that. And every single person I talked to in the resistance all had the exact same answer. Stop the us money going to the Taliban, period. And we should just stop it anyway. Ethically, we are funding al Qaeda, we are funding the Taliban, we are funding TTP, we are funding people who have Americans stuck in basements. Like, this is insanity. Besides all the. Besides what they're doing to the women. We haven't even talked about the women. But the afghan women are living in a prison. They have zero rights. We promise them you're gonna be doctors and lawyers. When Afghanistan fell, 27% of their parliament was women. United States is 29%. They got to a point in 20 years equal par to us. Right. And then we are doing nothing for their women, just like we did nothing for the women of Iran.

And it's. I just. It's just. It's against all human rights. Thoughts like you could even imagine.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Sarah, like I said, I really appreciate it. It's an honor to have you here again. And. And one more time for the audience. Check out the Shawn Ryan show newsletter. Sara will be giving us an intel brief.

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And that'll be. That'll be linked in the description below. And that'll be in the newsletter, too.

Yes.

So. All right, Sarah, thank you so much.

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