Eric Prince, welcome gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen. Holy shit. Something's happening. I can't believe it's happening. I'm not moving. It was stunned, you know, for all the noise, righteous indignation people have made about Benghazi or about Blackwater being heavy handed in our diplomatic security missions, 100,000 missions, less than one half of 1% were weapons discharges. In the Benghazi attack, where a us ambassador was killed on duty, how many rounds were fired by the DS agents? Not by on the ticket, there is a collectivist elite that focus on that. And it's probably good journalism would be exposing that. And again, bright disinfectant lights of truth on who those shot callers are is important.I just want to rewind real quick back to the, I mean, I don't know any other way to say it. People, people are concerned. They're fucking tired of what's going on. I see it in the comments all the time, when are we going to do something? When are we going to do something? And it's been going on for eight plus years now.Easy to type.Very easy to type. Hard to.Hard to do.Yeah.What do you, it causes, I mean, look, think about what that, what that means. That's enormous. And it's not about taking up arms and doing something. It's about showing up at the school board meeting and calling bullshit on the person that's pushing trainee stuff to your kids or whatever other nonsense. Right? It's, it's, it's showing up, it's turning off the football game and showing up to these local governance things or canvassing your local elections and getting your own friends, siblings, cousins, kids to turn out and vote, making sure they're educated on the issues. It's, it's not about, you know, jocking up, going to war. It's about this is, this has got to be solved at the ballot box. It's still possible to solve with the ballot box so it doesn't have to be solved with a cartridge box.Is it still possible to be solved at the ballot box?Yes, sure.How many illegals just entered this country?A lot.How many of them are going to vote?Fair question. There's some good lawsuits being filed right now to a number of those elections boards in those states, forcing them to delineate, forcing them to take action so that you get a judge decision before the election, because judges after the election are not going to throw out elections. They're just too scared. But there's a lot of parts of the country that you can still run honest elections and still contest. Hell, even. Heck, even in California, Steve Garvey has a reasonable shot of beating Adam Schiff for the Senate. Be a great sign?It would be. Do you think that they are allowing these illegals to flood in so they can keep the electoral votes?Sure. With the outflux, that is a combination of big business, which wants cheap labor, because, look, I run a manufacturing business in America. It is hard to get people to show up and want to work in a factory because you have the economy rolling. You have massive still amounts of federal transfer programs for welfare. And so if you're competing with somebody staying on the couch and watching tv versus showing up at a factory, and they might get paid the same as if they stay home, they're going to choose to stay home. So, again. But big business needs labor and they want to drive their labor costs down. Come on. So they abuse the h one B visa programs. They abuse a lot of that because they can, because they pay their lobbyists who pay politicians to keep those visa programs going. And the dems have a very concerted effort to open the border. They touted it. Biden and Kamala Harris, who is supposed to be the border czar, made all kinds of points of how they undid all the Trump border policies. And now you have, what, 15, 20 million people rolling in.Yeah.That's a combination of demographic replacement and cheap labor for big business.I mean, 20 million illegals, that's 25% of Biden's vote last election, 81 million votes if there's.If he actually got 81 million votes.If he actually got them. Now it's 101 million. If they. If they vote them all, which I'm sure they'll try to. It doesn't seem to me like there's anything that's off the table at this point.I read a lot of history, and it actually has been worse. So we're not there yet.Do we have to go worse before we see better?I sure hope not.What does worse look like?Unbelievable tribal slaughter. I don't think a, the last civil war was largely over. Yes, slavery was a factor, but industrial control of the south by the north and tariffs and all those things played a huge factor. The fact is, of the people that fought for the south, very, very few, I think less than 5% actually owned slaves. So they were fighting to defend the way they wanted to govern themselves or the way they wanted to trade with Europe or an agrarian based economy. So I'm not here to relitigate the entire civil war. But today, that political divide is largely rural versus urbanization, which would play out very differently. It's not regional, it's not north versus south. It's county and rural areas versus cities. And that can be ugly.How close are we to that?Well, if Trump was assassinated and the gap and the chaos that would have ensued, who knows what would have happened and who knows what the federal overreach would have been? And, yeah, there's a lot of people that don't have a lot of confidence in the federal institutions anymore, and it doesn't take much.Do you have confidence in any federal institution that exists?I have a lot of confidence in the men from the units, the kind of units that we came from. I don't have supreme confidence in all the officers, but I had a lot of confidence in, let's say, 0405 and below because they're the right kind of people. I recently attended a special forces q course graduation, and it was so heartening they want to live like sheep and be treated like sheep. And not everyone is a sheep.Well, you're so concerned about it, you co founded unplugged.Yeah, I having been, having seen the abuses of law enforcement and politicized government organs, and especially after the 2020 election, seeing them cancel certain voices, throwing people off of app stores or whatever for being an election denier, or questioning Covid Orlando, all this nonsense, I said we got to have our own phone independent of the Google Apple universe that they can't cancel. And because we had a team together already that had done a lot of offense and defensive cyber around phones, including building a completely separate operating system for a secure phone and even one that controls pacemakers. We did it. And yeah, we got unplugged to market. You've talked about it with your customers. We hope you're using your phone.Got it right here.Right on.We got the whole team these. We set up the whole Massoud interview in Vienna with these and gave Massoud one if you watched it. You know I did. But I am curious, who helped you develop this.Tech team? And our CEO is, I named Ryan Patterson and he is a ex marine DARPA guy, built a company that does most of the communications into denied areas for the USG. And our CTO is actually the guy that developed Pegasus.Are you shitting me? Yeah, he developed Pegasus.He developed Pegasus. He's an israeli guy that scares the.Shit out of me. Do you want to talk about Pegasus?But he developed Pegasus as a way for a company, as a. For a phone company to do service. If you have a problem with your phone. They send you a text, you click on the text. They can take over your phone, fix it remotely, and then leave. When it became. When the company traded hands, he left. When he became offensive, he left and he built, it's called the intact phone, which is a highly secure government phone. And then he left and built the. A phone that controls most of the world's pacemakers. So not just having to deal with intelligence and government related stuff, but literally a healthcare. Controlling a healthcare device that goes in someone's body, because, like, when Cheney was vice president, the main secret service concern then was someone hacking his pacemaker, because you can't have a hackable pacemaker. So, yes, fair question from a. You know, we. We've done all the third party penetration testing. Is there back doors? All the rest, we put out huge bounties at the Defcon hacker conference to say, this is our messenger, this is our operating system. If you can hack it, there's bitcoin wallets in these places.If you can hack it, great.Nobody's hacked it.Still got the bitcoin, and it's a lot more valuable now, too.Well, that's good to hear. What are some of the. I mean, I know some of the features, and I just told you yesterday at the sheriff's department and some of the tech they have, I was. It's been a minute since. It's been about ten years since I've been with the agency and the tech that the local sheriff's department has now crushes what I was involved in and what I had access to.Right. And so whether it's stingray stuff, the ad ids, all this stuff, it's all based on the exhaust given off by your Google or Android type phone. Right? Even the heritage foundation running checks on the ad ids. So each Google or Apple phone has, like, a 32 digit advertising id. It's a code. Someone could call it the mark of the beast. That follows that device around everywhere. And that's how the tech companies track where that device goes to figure out proximity for advertising sales and who you're interacting with and your schedule. The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has had 72 million speech, and your Fourth Amendment right to be free of illegal searches. Because what this FISA expansion is, is I cannot imagine it stands up constitutionally because it is so beyond the pale of anything that's legal. Put it this way. The founding fathers went to war over taxes on the land transfer stamps, the Stamp act, where basically with that FISA expansion that even some Republicans voted for, terrible, terrible, terrible. It literally allows government into every aspect of your digital life with no warrant and with no probable cause.Just because they don't like Sean Ryan.I know they don't like me, but join the club. Do you think that. Do you think you guys will develop some type of a computer as well?Yeah, we talked about a tablet and then a laptop as well. Listen, we woke up re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. 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gonna happen. Nothing's gonna happen. Holy shit. Something's happening. I can't believe it's happening. I'm not moving. It was stunned, you know, for all the noise, righteous indignation people have made about Benghazi or about Blackwater being heavy handed in our diplomatic security missions, 100,000 missions, less than one half of 1% were weapons discharges. In the Benghazi attack, where a us ambassador was killed on duty, how many rounds were fired by the DS agents? Not by on the ticket, there is a collectivist elite that focus on that. And it's probably good journalism would be exposing that. And again, bright disinfectant lights of truth on who those shot callers are is important.I just want to rewind real quick back to the, I mean, I don't know any other way to say it. People, people are concerned. They're fucking tired of what's going on. I see it in the comments all the time, when are we going to do something? When are we going to do something? And it's been going on for eight plus years now.Easy to type.Very easy to type. Hard to.Hard to do.Yeah.What do you, it causes, I mean, look, think about what that, what that means. That's enormous. And it's not about taking up arms and doing something. It's about showing up at the school board meeting and calling bullshit on the person that's pushing trainee stuff to your kids or whatever other nonsense. Right? It's, it's, it's showing up, it's turning off the football game and showing up to these local governance things or canvassing your local elections and getting your own friends, siblings, cousins, kids to turn out and vote, making sure they're educated on the issues. It's, it's not about, you know, jocking up, going to war. It's about this is, this has got to be solved at the ballot box. It's still possible to solve with the ballot box so it doesn't have to be solved with a cartridge box.Is it still possible to be solved at the ballot box?Yes, sure.How many illegals just entered this country?A lot.How many of them are going to vote?Fair question. There's some good lawsuits being filed right now to a number of those elections boards in those states, forcing them to delineate, forcing them to take action so that you get a judge decision before the election, because judges after the election are not going to throw out elections. They're just too scared. But there's a lot of parts of the country that you can still run honest elections and still contest. Hell, even. Heck, even in California, Steve Garvey has a reasonable shot of beating Adam Schiff for the Senate. Be a great sign?It would be. Do you think that they are allowing these illegals to flood in so they can keep the electoral votes?Sure. With the outflux, that is a combination of big business, which wants cheap labor, because, look, I run a manufacturing business in America. It is hard to get people to show up and want to work in a factory because you have the economy rolling. You have massive still amounts of federal transfer programs for welfare. And so if you're competing with somebody staying on the couch and watching tv versus showing up at a factory, and they might get paid the same as if they stay home, they're going to choose to stay home. So, again. But big business needs labor and they want to drive their labor costs down. Come on. So they abuse the h one B visa programs. They abuse a lot of that because they can, because they pay their lobbyists who pay politicians to keep those visa programs going. And the dems have a very concerted effort to open the border. They touted it. Biden and Kamala Harris, who is supposed to be the border czar, made all kinds of points of how they undid all the Trump border policies. And now you have, what, 15, 20 million people rolling in.Yeah.That's a combination of demographic replacement and cheap labor for big business.I mean, 20 million illegals, that's 25% of Biden's vote last election, 81 million votes if there's.If he actually got 81 million votes.If he actually got them. Now it's 101 million. If they. If they vote them all, which I'm sure they'll try to. It doesn't seem to me like there's anything that's off the table at this point.I read a lot of history, and it actually has been worse. So we're not there yet.Do we have to go worse before we see better?I sure hope not.What does worse look like?Unbelievable tribal slaughter. I don't think a, the last civil war was largely over. Yes, slavery was a factor, but industrial control of the south by the north and tariffs and all those things played a huge factor. The fact is, of the people that fought for the south, very, very few, I think less than 5% actually owned slaves. So they were fighting to defend the way they wanted to govern themselves or the way they wanted to trade with Europe or an agrarian based economy. So I'm not here to relitigate the entire civil war. But today, that political divide is largely rural versus urbanization, which would play out very differently. It's not regional, it's not north versus south. It's county and rural areas versus cities. And that can be ugly.How close are we to that?Well, if Trump was assassinated and the gap and the chaos that would have ensued, who knows what would have happened and who knows what the federal overreach would have been? And, yeah, there's a lot of people that don't have a lot of confidence in the federal institutions anymore, and it doesn't take much.Do you have confidence in any federal institution that exists?I have a lot of confidence in the men from the units, the kind of units that we came from. I don't have supreme confidence in all the officers, but I had a lot of confidence in, let's say, 0405 and below because they're the right kind of people. I recently attended a special forces q course graduation, and it was so heartening they want to live like sheep and be treated like sheep. And not everyone is a sheep.Well, you're so concerned about it, you co founded unplugged.Yeah, I having been, having seen the abuses of law enforcement and politicized government organs, and especially after the 2020 election, seeing them cancel certain voices, throwing people off of app stores or whatever for being an election denier, or questioning Covid Orlando, all this nonsense, I said we got to have our own phone independent of the Google Apple universe that they can't cancel. And because we had a team together already that had done a lot of offense and defensive cyber around phones, including building a completely separate operating system for a secure phone and even one that controls pacemakers. We did it. And yeah, we got unplugged to market. You've talked about it with your customers. We hope you're using your phone.Got it right here.Right on.We got the whole team these. We set up the whole Massoud interview in Vienna with these and gave Massoud one if you watched it. You know I did. But I am curious, who helped you develop this.Tech team? And our CEO is, I named Ryan Patterson and he is a ex marine DARPA guy, built a company that does most of the communications into denied areas for the USG. And our CTO is actually the guy that developed Pegasus.Are you shitting me? Yeah, he developed Pegasus.He developed Pegasus. He's an israeli guy that scares the.Shit out of me. Do you want to talk about Pegasus?But he developed Pegasus as a way for a company, as a. For a phone company to do service. If you have a problem with your phone. They send you a text, you click on the text. They can take over your phone, fix it remotely, and then leave. When it became. When the company traded hands, he left. When he became offensive, he left and he built, it's called the intact phone, which is a highly secure government phone. And then he left and built the. A phone that controls most of the world's pacemakers. So not just having to deal with intelligence and government related stuff, but literally a healthcare. Controlling a healthcare device that goes in someone's body, because, like, when Cheney was vice president, the main secret service concern then was someone hacking his pacemaker, because you can't have a hackable pacemaker. So, yes, fair question from a. You know, we. We've done all the third party penetration testing. Is there back doors? All the rest, we put out huge bounties at the Defcon hacker conference to say, this is our messenger, this is our operating system. If you can hack it, there's bitcoin wallets in these places.If you can hack it, great.Nobody's hacked it.Still got the bitcoin, and it's a lot more valuable now, too.Well, that's good to hear. What are some of the. I mean, I know some of the features, and I just told you yesterday at the sheriff's department and some of the tech they have, I was. It's been a minute since. It's been about ten years since I've been with the agency and the tech that the local sheriff's department has now crushes what I was involved in and what I had access to.Right. And so whether it's stingray stuff, the ad ids, all this stuff, it's all based on the exhaust given off by your Google or Android type phone. Right? Even the heritage foundation running checks on the ad ids. So each Google or Apple phone has, like, a 32 digit advertising id. It's a code. Someone could call it the mark of the beast. That follows that device around everywhere. And that's how the tech companies track where that device goes to figure out proximity for advertising sales and who you're interacting with and your schedule. The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has had 72 million speech, and your Fourth Amendment right to be free of illegal searches. Because what this FISA expansion is, is I cannot imagine it stands up constitutionally because it is so beyond the pale of anything that's legal. Put it this way. The founding fathers went to war over taxes on the land transfer stamps, the Stamp act, where basically with that FISA expansion that even some Republicans voted for, terrible, terrible, terrible. It literally allows government into every aspect of your digital life with no warrant and with no probable cause.Just because they don't like Sean Ryan.I know they don't like me, but join the club. Do you think that. Do you think you guys will develop some type of a computer as well?Yeah, we talked about a tablet and then a laptop as well. Listen, we woke up re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.

on the ticket, there is a collectivist elite that focus on that. And it's probably good journalism would be exposing that. And again, bright disinfectant lights of truth on who those shot callers are is important.

I just want to rewind real quick back to the, I mean, I don't know any other way to say it. People, people are concerned. They're fucking tired of what's going on. I see it in the comments all the time, when are we going to do something? When are we going to do something? And it's been going on for eight plus years now.

Easy to type.

Very easy to type. Hard to.

Hard to do.

Yeah.

What do you, it causes, I mean, look, think about what that, what that means. That's enormous. And it's not about taking up arms and doing something. It's about showing up at the school board meeting and calling bullshit on the person that's pushing trainee stuff to your kids or whatever other nonsense. Right? It's, it's, it's showing up, it's turning off the football game and showing up to these local governance things or canvassing your local elections and getting your own friends, siblings, cousins, kids to turn out and vote, making sure they're educated on the issues. It's, it's not about, you know, jocking up, going to war. It's about this is, this has got to be solved at the ballot box. It's still possible to solve with the ballot box so it doesn't have to be solved with a cartridge box.

Is it still possible to be solved at the ballot box?

Yes, sure.

How many illegals just entered this country?

A lot.

How many of them are going to vote?

Fair question. There's some good lawsuits being filed right now to a number of those elections boards in those states, forcing them to delineate, forcing them to take action so that you get a judge decision before the election, because judges after the election are not going to throw out elections. They're just too scared. But there's a lot of parts of the country that you can still run honest elections and still contest. Hell, even. Heck, even in California, Steve Garvey has a reasonable shot of beating Adam Schiff for the Senate. Be a great sign?

It would be. Do you think that they are allowing these illegals to flood in so they can keep the electoral votes?

Sure. With the outflux, that is a combination of big business, which wants cheap labor, because, look, I run a manufacturing business in America. It is hard to get people to show up and want to work in a factory because you have the economy rolling. You have massive still amounts of federal transfer programs for welfare. And so if you're competing with somebody staying on the couch and watching tv versus showing up at a factory, and they might get paid the same as if they stay home, they're going to choose to stay home. So, again. But big business needs labor and they want to drive their labor costs down. Come on. So they abuse the h one B visa programs. They abuse a lot of that because they can, because they pay their lobbyists who pay politicians to keep those visa programs going. And the dems have a very concerted effort to open the border. They touted it. Biden and Kamala Harris, who is supposed to be the border czar, made all kinds of points of how they undid all the Trump border policies. And now you have, what, 15, 20 million people rolling in.

Yeah.

That's a combination of demographic replacement and cheap labor for big business.

I mean, 20 million illegals, that's 25% of Biden's vote last election, 81 million votes if there's.

If he actually got 81 million votes.

If he actually got them. Now it's 101 million. If they. If they vote them all, which I'm sure they'll try to. It doesn't seem to me like there's anything that's off the table at this point.

I read a lot of history, and it actually has been worse. So we're not there yet.

Do we have to go worse before we see better?

I sure hope not.

What does worse look like?

Unbelievable tribal slaughter. I don't think a, the last civil war was largely over. Yes, slavery was a factor, but industrial control of the south by the north and tariffs and all those things played a huge factor. The fact is, of the people that fought for the south, very, very few, I think less than 5% actually owned slaves. So they were fighting to defend the way they wanted to govern themselves or the way they wanted to trade with Europe or an agrarian based economy. So I'm not here to relitigate the entire civil war. But today, that political divide is largely rural versus urbanization, which would play out very differently. It's not regional, it's not north versus south. It's county and rural areas versus cities. And that can be ugly.

How close are we to that?

Well, if Trump was assassinated and the gap and the chaos that would have ensued, who knows what would have happened and who knows what the federal overreach would have been? And, yeah, there's a lot of people that don't have a lot of confidence in the federal institutions anymore, and it doesn't take much.

Do you have confidence in any federal institution that exists?

I have a lot of confidence in the men from the units, the kind of units that we came from. I don't have supreme confidence in all the officers, but I had a lot of confidence in, let's say, 0405 and below because they're the right kind of people. I recently attended a special forces q course graduation, and it was so heartening they want to live like sheep and be treated like sheep. And not everyone is a sheep.Well, you're so concerned about it, you co founded unplugged.Yeah, I having been, having seen the abuses of law enforcement and politicized government organs, and especially after the 2020 election, seeing them cancel certain voices, throwing people off of app stores or whatever for being an election denier, or questioning Covid Orlando, all this nonsense, I said we got to have our own phone independent of the Google Apple universe that they can't cancel. And because we had a team together already that had done a lot of offense and defensive cyber around phones, including building a completely separate operating system for a secure phone and even one that controls pacemakers. We did it. And yeah, we got unplugged to market. You've talked about it with your customers. We hope you're using your phone.Got it right here.Right on.We got the whole team these. We set up the whole Massoud interview in Vienna with these and gave Massoud one if you watched it. You know I did. But I am curious, who helped you develop this.Tech team? And our CEO is, I named Ryan Patterson and he is a ex marine DARPA guy, built a company that does most of the communications into denied areas for the USG. And our CTO is actually the guy that developed Pegasus.Are you shitting me? Yeah, he developed Pegasus.He developed Pegasus. He's an israeli guy that scares the.Shit out of me. Do you want to talk about Pegasus?But he developed Pegasus as a way for a company, as a. For a phone company to do service. If you have a problem with your phone. They send you a text, you click on the text. They can take over your phone, fix it remotely, and then leave. When it became. When the company traded hands, he left. When he became offensive, he left and he built, it's called the intact phone, which is a highly secure government phone. And then he left and built the. A phone that controls most of the world's pacemakers. So not just having to deal with intelligence and government related stuff, but literally a healthcare. Controlling a healthcare device that goes in someone's body, because, like, when Cheney was vice president, the main secret service concern then was someone hacking his pacemaker, because you can't have a hackable pacemaker. So, yes, fair question from a. You know, we. We've done all the third party penetration testing. Is there back doors? All the rest, we put out huge bounties at the Defcon hacker conference to say, this is our messenger, this is our operating system. If you can hack it, there's bitcoin wallets in these places.If you can hack it, great.Nobody's hacked it.Still got the bitcoin, and it's a lot more valuable now, too.Well, that's good to hear. What are some of the. I mean, I know some of the features, and I just told you yesterday at the sheriff's department and some of the tech they have, I was. It's been a minute since. It's been about ten years since I've been with the agency and the tech that the local sheriff's department has now crushes what I was involved in and what I had access to.Right. And so whether it's stingray stuff, the ad ids, all this stuff, it's all based on the exhaust given off by your Google or Android type phone. Right? Even the heritage foundation running checks on the ad ids. So each Google or Apple phone has, like, a 32 digit advertising id. It's a code. Someone could call it the mark of the beast. That follows that device around everywhere. And that's how the tech companies track where that device goes to figure out proximity for advertising sales and who you're interacting with and your schedule. The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has had 72 million speech, and your Fourth Amendment right to be free of illegal searches. Because what this FISA expansion is, is I cannot imagine it stands up constitutionally because it is so beyond the pale of anything that's legal. Put it this way. The founding fathers went to war over taxes on the land transfer stamps, the Stamp act, where basically with that FISA expansion that even some Republicans voted for, terrible, terrible, terrible. It literally allows government into every aspect of your digital life with no warrant and with no probable cause.Just because they don't like Sean Ryan.I know they don't like me, but join the club. Do you think that. Do you think you guys will develop some type of a computer as well?Yeah, we talked about a tablet and then a laptop as well. Listen, we woke up re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.

they want to live like sheep and be treated like sheep. And not everyone is a sheep.

Well, you're so concerned about it, you co founded unplugged.

Yeah, I having been, having seen the abuses of law enforcement and politicized government organs, and especially after the 2020 election, seeing them cancel certain voices, throwing people off of app stores or whatever for being an election denier, or questioning Covid Orlando, all this nonsense, I said we got to have our own phone independent of the Google Apple universe that they can't cancel. And because we had a team together already that had done a lot of offense and defensive cyber around phones, including building a completely separate operating system for a secure phone and even one that controls pacemakers. We did it. And yeah, we got unplugged to market. You've talked about it with your customers. We hope you're using your phone.

Got it right here.

Right on.

We got the whole team these. We set up the whole Massoud interview in Vienna with these and gave Massoud one if you watched it. You know I did. But I am curious, who helped you develop this.

Tech team? And our CEO is, I named Ryan Patterson and he is a ex marine DARPA guy, built a company that does most of the communications into denied areas for the USG. And our CTO is actually the guy that developed Pegasus.

Are you shitting me? Yeah, he developed Pegasus.

He developed Pegasus. He's an israeli guy that scares the.

Shit out of me. Do you want to talk about Pegasus?

But he developed Pegasus as a way for a company, as a. For a phone company to do service. If you have a problem with your phone. They send you a text, you click on the text. They can take over your phone, fix it remotely, and then leave. When it became. When the company traded hands, he left. When he became offensive, he left and he built, it's called the intact phone, which is a highly secure government phone. And then he left and built the. A phone that controls most of the world's pacemakers. So not just having to deal with intelligence and government related stuff, but literally a healthcare. Controlling a healthcare device that goes in someone's body, because, like, when Cheney was vice president, the main secret service concern then was someone hacking his pacemaker, because you can't have a hackable pacemaker. So, yes, fair question from a. You know, we. We've done all the third party penetration testing. Is there back doors? All the rest, we put out huge bounties at the Defcon hacker conference to say, this is our messenger, this is our operating system. If you can hack it, there's bitcoin wallets in these places.

If you can hack it, great.

Nobody's hacked it.

Still got the bitcoin, and it's a lot more valuable now, too.

Well, that's good to hear. What are some of the. I mean, I know some of the features, and I just told you yesterday at the sheriff's department and some of the tech they have, I was. It's been a minute since. It's been about ten years since I've been with the agency and the tech that the local sheriff's department has now crushes what I was involved in and what I had access to.

Right. And so whether it's stingray stuff, the ad ids, all this stuff, it's all based on the exhaust given off by your Google or Android type phone. Right? Even the heritage foundation running checks on the ad ids. So each Google or Apple phone has, like, a 32 digit advertising id. It's a code. Someone could call it the mark of the beast. That follows that device around everywhere. And that's how the tech companies track where that device goes to figure out proximity for advertising sales and who you're interacting with and your schedule. The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has had 72 million speech, and your Fourth Amendment right to be free of illegal searches. Because what this FISA expansion is, is I cannot imagine it stands up constitutionally because it is so beyond the pale of anything that's legal. Put it this way. The founding fathers went to war over taxes on the land transfer stamps, the Stamp act, where basically with that FISA expansion that even some Republicans voted for, terrible, terrible, terrible. It literally allows government into every aspect of your digital life with no warrant and with no probable cause.Just because they don't like Sean Ryan.I know they don't like me, but join the club. Do you think that. Do you think you guys will develop some type of a computer as well?Yeah, we talked about a tablet and then a laptop as well. Listen, we woke up re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.

speech, and your Fourth Amendment right to be free of illegal searches. Because what this FISA expansion is, is I cannot imagine it stands up constitutionally because it is so beyond the pale of anything that's legal. Put it this way. The founding fathers went to war over taxes on the land transfer stamps, the Stamp act, where basically with that FISA expansion that even some Republicans voted for, terrible, terrible, terrible. It literally allows government into every aspect of your digital life with no warrant and with no probable cause.

Just because they don't like Sean Ryan.

I know they don't like me, but join the club. Do you think that. Do you think you guys will develop some type of a computer as well?

Yeah, we talked about a tablet and then a laptop as well. Listen, we woke up re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.

re just not taking it seriously. Norway with a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund. It's right on that?They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.Yeah, yeah.Get off the affluenza.Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?It's been, yes, easy.Good, go.It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.Have we been up against anything like this before?Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.Fair enough.Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.Wow.So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.Sean, keep doing it.I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.

that?

They have to get past affluenza. Right? Things are so good, they're so comfortable, so much wealth in America that it's easy. Right? We have an obesity epidemic. 70 plus percent of people are seriously overweight. Enough. I travel a lot. It is embarrassing to see how obese Americans are. Obviously Americans are walking around in Europe or Asia or South America. Like, come on, people, put the sugar down. Enough.

Yeah, yeah.

Get off the affluenza.

Yeah. I want to end this on a positive note. What?

It's been, yes, easy.

Good, go.

It's always been much worse. It's always been. There's been, we've gone through. America's been far worse off before. Okay, think about american civil war. 600,000 people dead. Even after World War one, there was millions of people died of spanish flu, actual flu that killed lots of people. Killed them. Not the nonsense that was Covid, the Great Depression. Serious, serious economic hardships, actual starvation, parts of America. So yeah, we've got some issues now, but it's fixable.

Have we been up against anything like this before?

Well, this is a fundamental defining issue of how we view ourselves as citizens in a government. The we talked about before, the socialist or the communist paradigm is really about control and subjecting yourself to a government elite, a party elite, determining what is best for your life versus the paradigm of freedom, of individual liberty and choice. For that you make those changes to organize your life in the way that you want to choose. And that clash has been ongoing for millennia, and I would always choose a side of freedom.

Thank you for sharing that last question. If Trump gets elected, do you have a spot in his administration?

I hope not. I would love to serve, but there's lots of ways to serve. Maybe not with a full time government job.

Fair enough.

Let me end with a, well, let me end with a, with a motivating story. My favorite story from the American Revolution, Samuel Whitmore. He was 78 years old in April of 1775. He's a military veteran, veteran of the french and indian wars. And he hears the british soldiers marching by to go attack his buddies, the patriots at Lexington and Concord. Old Sammy Whitmore, at 78 years old, goes and guns himself up, loads his pistol, his two pistols and his musket, and he goes out and he single handedly attacks the British marching by. He kills three british soldiers. He draws his sword, which doesn't need reloading, and he attacks. The British overwhelm him. They shoot him in the face. They bayonet him six times. When the patriots found him an hour later, he was trying to reload. He lived for 18 more years.

Wow.

So it's a great example. However old you are, you are never too old to be out of the fight.

Nice. Well, Eric, once again, thank you for coming and thanks for all you're doing.

Sean, keep doing it.

I will. I will. Appreciate it. History, economics, the great works of literature, the meaning of the US constitution. Did you study these things in school? Probably not. Or even if you did, maybe its time for a refresher. Time and technology have changed a lot, and thats why its important to learn the fundamentals. Thats why im excited that Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses on the most important and enduring subjects. You can learn about the works of CS Lewis, the stories of the book of Genesis, the meaning of the US Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of the ancient christian church. With Hillsdale College's online courses all available for free. That's right, free. I personally recommend you sign up for ancient Christianity. In this eleven lecture course, you'll study the inspiring stories of Christ in the first four centuries of christianity. The course is self paced, so you can start whenever and wherever. Go right now to hillsdale.edu srs to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's hillsdale.edu srs to register.