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It's something you think about every day. There are people in the building that might struggle to get out if there's a fire. The best we've got is that a fire hasn't happened. And that's scary to even think that.

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Steph is trapped in a building that's unsafe.

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They found issues with all the panels above the windows, so span draw and infill panels that need to be replaced.

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She bought this flat in Bristol, unaware of the risks, before more stringent checks brought in after the Grenfell fire revealed the issues here. She was one of the first people in the country to use new post-Grenfell laws to take her building owner to court and won. But the owner failed to show up at court, hasn't replied to the many efforts by residents to contact them since, and the deadline set by the judge to complete the work has now passed, yet nothing has been done.

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When you talk to somebody that isn't in this situation, it It's actually really difficult to get across the severity of it and how it makes you feel from a mental point of view, from a financial point of view, because they just go, Surely somebody is going to make sure they do that. Are you sure you Have you spoken to the right people? And those are questions that you get. And you go, Yeah, I've knocked on every door. We have. And they're all just shut.

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The building owner has also failed to respond to sky news. Steph can't sell her flat because no mortgage lender will go near it. Her building is one of thousands around the country that should have been made safe in the seven years since Grenfell, but haven't. Building owners who delay or disappear are leaving lives at risk.

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In another part of Bristol, this block went up in flames two years ago. Before this happened, the city council had told concerned tenants that the building was fine.

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As we all ran out, we notified all the other neighbors, banging doors on the way out as we were running down.

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That's terrifying.

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I dragged my son out of his bed by his neck because everyone was screaming. As we ran, we ran downstairs and we stood down in this corner and we were watching building burn, basically, not knowing if we were going to have a home.

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The council has now recently changed the cladding and identified other blocks that need doing, too. But in Birmingham, Jim's story is a warning that even when cladding has been replaced, not all risk is removed. He owns a flat in a building where the owner has done the work required by government. But internal surveys that are now routinely carried out by mortgage lenders have revealed a design floor that means fire could still spread rapidly.

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A reality that left the building half safe, or not even half safe. According to the government, it's nice and safe. According to the insurers and the mortgage people, it's not safe. So we've got the government saying one thing and the practicality on the ground saying something totally different.

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And what if you tried to sell?

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We can't sell. There's estate agents who will not take on the buildings. They can't get mortgages yet.

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This huge fire in Dagenham last month, where overdue work was still taking place to remove remove combustible cladding has reinforced the fear of those who know their building could be next.

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Not only do we have the same cladding as was present at Grenfell, but also the same polystyrene insulation.

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People won't believe that buildings still have that exact type of cladding.

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Well, unfortunately, that's the sad fact.

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Paul keeps all his essentials handy.

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So this is what we keep beside the bed. The wallet with the passport, some cash, driving license, car keys, house keys, mobile phone.

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In case you need to run.

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In case we need to run at a moment's notice.

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The owner of his building in Birmingham claims it plans to carry out the work later this year.

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It is very, very stressful. It's very worrying. You live with it all the time. I'm an adult, I'm by myself. I can get out quickly. How quite how I would feel if in the next bedroom I had a kiddie or grandma. You've got to be mindful and be prepared. And this is as prepared as I can be.

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Since the Grenfell fire, the promise from government has been that it could never happen again. But it could because new laws aren't being enforced. Comfort. We're doing this. Emma escaped from the 20th floor that night.

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I I never look at a towel block the same way. Remove the cladding, stop putting money before people's lives, listen to what people want, stop charging people. Can they not wake up and see what they're doing to people? Grenfell was guinea pigs, and now people have seen what it can do.

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As a report is due to name and shame those responsible for Grenfell, the tragedy is being being compounded by multiple failures across the UK to prevent another disaster. Becky Johnson, Skynews.