My dad was German, my mom was Austrian. We're Jewish. We lost a lot of family in the Holocaust. But that immigrant background, it's informed my politics. We didn't move to Britain out of choice. People don't leave their communities or their families on the whole out of choice. I mean, we moved because of fear of persecution. And people will move fear of persecution, poverty, maybe global warming. Of course, you want to have a controlled immigration policy. Everybody understands that. But to have this hostility this hostility and scapegoating, and we see it worse with Nigel Farage now. And I experienced it with the BMP when they challenged me embarking in the 2010 general election to see that culture being encouraged. One of the roles of politicians is that we provide voice. And on immigration, we've really, across all political parties, we've failed actually to use our voice in a way that allows migration to be seen as a good for society.