Oh, man. I always forget how chilly it gets when I do a cold open, but, man, probably should have worn a hat. Even gloves would have been nice. But anyway, before I freeze my beans off, welcome to smart life.

Smarteen. Less. Smart less. Smart less.

You guys. I mean, don't make me cry. It's been a month and a half.

I know. It's pretty much.

I'm so happy to see you in your house in LA. It makes me feel really good. And I know that we're gonna see you later. Yeah, later today, which is later today.

Put my mouth on both you right away.

Hang on, hang on.

One lip for each.

That's another Sunday.

Please stop. Please stop. Please stop.

Now, wait a minute, Jason. I know you told us a little bit about your character, but is your character supposed to tell at all?

Like, hang on. Tell us about your.

This is the start of a typical interview. Tell us about your character. What is.

No, because as a storyteller.

Sorry, Sean, you're gonna go.

But no, well, anyway, I don't really care. I mean, I care, but I mean, like, is he supposed to bathe?

No, and that's why I look like, you know, I mean, there's long hair and long beard, and it's not. Yeah.

Are you anxious to cut it all off or are you, like, yeah.

And we haven't even gone into the teeth of summer yet. I'll be going through summer in New York City with this long hair.

And how's that beard gonna feel on 16 hours days in the summer in New York?

It's gonna. However bad it feels, it's gonna smell even worse. Yeah.

Have you been trimming it now because you've got it at a length that you like?

No. Well, we've. We had to trim it once just for continuity so it doesn't get too. But, you know, I get, you know, people maybe be like, should we. Should we worry? Is there a hotline we can, I went, oh, no, there's no way I'm gonna be a practicing physician. There's no way.So, because.I realized I wasn't as interested in that as I was in. I liked evolutionary biology, so I was gonna continue and do Will's big on.Creation biology, but I went.Remember the Paula Abdul song? Vibology?No, we don't.No, nobody does.I used to pretend I was going to Vibola.No offense to her, but nobody does. But. But wait, so, Lisa. So your dad. So your dad was a. Did Sean. Did you say that? Did he say it right? Your dad was specialized in headaches?Yeah. Yeah.So what's that? Talk to us a little bit about?And, yeah, I work because I got two headaches.I got two headaches on theor whatever it is, but it's really unhealthy. And you really got to check yourself to get off of social media, and what might help you do that and cope with that is therapy, because comparing yourself to others is a total joy killer. It's so easy to look at someone's social media and think they've got it all figured out. But the truth is, everyone's got their own stuff going on behind the scenes that you can't see. Therapy can help you focus on what you want instead of what others have so you can start living your best life.If you're thinking of starting therapy, give better help a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with the life therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. Stop comparing and start focusing with betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com smartlist today to get 10% off your first month. I to play for on the onetree app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge seasons early and ad the thing.Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.Lisa, we love you.I really enjoy talking to you.Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.I will.Yeah.Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.Oh, what's a wedge?Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.Oh, you did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's great. I love golf stories.No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.Yeah.So great to see. You're the best.You guys are.Thank you for doing this.Do I log off? Do I get slammed?Or. Do whatever you want.Okay.Yeah, you can just.Bye.Bye.The great.The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.Why not?I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.Like a. Like a butler, like.Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.But.Okay. It's good to say, right?Okay. Okay.You should workshop it, man.Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.Yeah, she has.But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.Yeah, yeah.She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

, I went, oh, no, there's no way I'm gonna be a practicing physician. There's no way.

So, because.

I realized I wasn't as interested in that as I was in. I liked evolutionary biology, so I was gonna continue and do Will's big on.

Creation biology, but I went.

Remember the Paula Abdul song? Vibology?

No, we don't.

No, nobody does.

I used to pretend I was going to Vibola.

No offense to her, but nobody does. But. But wait, so, Lisa. So your dad. So your dad was a. Did Sean. Did you say that? Did he say it right? Your dad was specialized in headaches?

Yeah. Yeah.

So what's that? Talk to us a little bit about?

And, yeah, I work because I got two headaches.

I got two headaches on theor whatever it is, but it's really unhealthy. And you really got to check yourself to get off of social media, and what might help you do that and cope with that is therapy, because comparing yourself to others is a total joy killer. It's so easy to look at someone's social media and think they've got it all figured out. But the truth is, everyone's got their own stuff going on behind the scenes that you can't see. Therapy can help you focus on what you want instead of what others have so you can start living your best life.If you're thinking of starting therapy, give better help a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with the life therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. Stop comparing and start focusing with betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com smartlist today to get 10% off your first month. I to play for on the onetree app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge seasons early and ad the thing.Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.Lisa, we love you.I really enjoy talking to you.Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.I will.Yeah.Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.Oh, what's a wedge?Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.Oh, you did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's great. I love golf stories.No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.Yeah.So great to see. You're the best.You guys are.Thank you for doing this.Do I log off? Do I get slammed?Or. Do whatever you want.Okay.Yeah, you can just.Bye.Bye.The great.The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.Why not?I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.Like a. Like a butler, like.Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.But.Okay. It's good to say, right?Okay. Okay.You should workshop it, man.Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.Yeah, she has.But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.Yeah, yeah.She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

or whatever it is, but it's really unhealthy. And you really got to check yourself to get off of social media, and what might help you do that and cope with that is therapy, because comparing yourself to others is a total joy killer. It's so easy to look at someone's social media and think they've got it all figured out. But the truth is, everyone's got their own stuff going on behind the scenes that you can't see. Therapy can help you focus on what you want instead of what others have so you can start living your best life.

If you're thinking of starting therapy, give better help a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with the life therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. Stop comparing and start focusing with betterhelp. Visit betterhelp.com smartlist today to get 10% off your first month. I to play for on the onetree app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge seasons early and ad the thing.Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.Lisa, we love you.I really enjoy talking to you.Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.I will.Yeah.Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.Oh, what's a wedge?Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.Oh, you did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's great. I love golf stories.No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.Yeah.So great to see. You're the best.You guys are.Thank you for doing this.Do I log off? Do I get slammed?Or. Do whatever you want.Okay.Yeah, you can just.Bye.Bye.The great.The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.Why not?I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.Like a. Like a butler, like.Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.But.Okay. It's good to say, right?Okay. Okay.You should workshop it, man.Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.Yeah, she has.But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.Yeah, yeah.She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

I to play for on the onetree app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge seasons early and ad the thing.Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.Lisa, we love you.I really enjoy talking to you.Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.I will.Yeah.Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.Oh, what's a wedge?Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.Oh, you did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's great. I love golf stories.No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.Yeah.So great to see. You're the best.You guys are.Thank you for doing this.Do I log off? Do I get slammed?Or. Do whatever you want.Okay.Yeah, you can just.Bye.Bye.The great.The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.Why not?I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.Like a. Like a butler, like.Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.But.Okay. It's good to say, right?Okay. Okay.You should workshop it, man.Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.Yeah, she has.But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.Yeah, yeah.She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

to play for on the onetree app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge seasons early and ad the thing.Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.Lisa, we love you.I really enjoy talking to you.Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.I will.Yeah.Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.Oh, what's a wedge?Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.Oh, you did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's great. I love golf stories.No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.Yeah.So great to see. You're the best.You guys are.Thank you for doing this.Do I log off? Do I get slammed?Or. Do whatever you want.Okay.Yeah, you can just.Bye.Bye.The great.The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.Why not?I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.Like a. Like a butler, like.Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.But.Okay. It's good to say, right?Okay. Okay.You should workshop it, man.Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.Yeah, she has.But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.Yeah, yeah.She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

the thing.

Is that because of the. He's like, that was my dream.

Well, speaking of dreams, we've taken up way too much of your time. Lisa, you've got dreams. You are a dream. Thank you for coming on, honey.

Lisa, we love you.

I really enjoy talking to you.

Please say hi. Please say hi to Michelle.

I will.

Yeah.

Yeah. Ask him if he. If he needs new wedges.

Oh, what's a wedge?

Oh, yeah, I saw Michelle twice last week.

Oh, you did?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's great. I love golf stories.

No, that's another podcast listener. That's sarcasm.

All right, Lisa, we love you. I'm sure we'll see you soon.

Yeah.

So great to see. You're the best.

You guys are.

Thank you for doing this.

Do I log off? Do I get slammed?

Or. Do whatever you want.

Okay.

Yeah, you can just.

Bye.

Bye.

The great.

The great Lisa Kudrow. You think anybody ever calls her okay.

Why not?

I would. I would call her. Okay. That's a good.

We call you JB, but nobody says wa, because that's not work.

It's not fun. Yeah. You know, sh. Not JB. Kind of like that shitty.

Like a. Like a butler, like.

Or some kind of a. Yeah, I don't know where I got that from, but maybe I should.

But.

Okay. It's good to say, right?

Okay. Okay.

You should workshop it, man.

Yeah, we're doing that now. Right, listeners, while we're still on and.

But isn't she good? You know, Jay, you said a while ago about Larry David, you were like, boy, you just did Seinfeld then. You did curb your enthusiasm. You just did. Really, two things that were. I mean, you did other things, of course. Two shows that were just hit huge. And she did many shows that, like. And movies and stuff. And because she takes the time to create characters and, like, specificity of all of that stuff. And she. To me, she's always taken the time and the energy to make something great or make sure it can be great.

Yeah. And the whole people I talk to, people I hear from or like, just, she's universally thought of as just, like, high taste, really smart comedy, which, which comes from being a good actor, I think. You know, I mean, she's, she's, you know, she says that she's not that interested in drama. Or at least she said in the beginning she wasn't interested in drama class. I'll bet if she took a dramatic role, which she'd be great. Probably done.

Yeah, she has.

But that opposite of shit, it makes me cry real quick.

Yeah, yeah.

She's, she's awesome. Justbiggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.

biggest products were built and the innovators, entrepreneurs and idealists behind. Every week, I speak to someone new stories like Justin Wolvertons, a lawyer who just wanted a healthy alternative to ice cream. So he created Halo top in his cuisinart. Or Todd Graves, who grew his fried chicken restaurant, raising canes into one of the most successful fast food chains in the US. All of these great conversations can help you learn how to think big, take risks, and navigate crises in life and work from people whove done all of that. That and more. Follow how I built this on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to how I built this early and ad free right now on wondery Plus.