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In the meantime, enjoy this episode. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is the playwright of the critically acclaimed Slave Play. He's making his directorial debut with the new HBO documentary, Slave Play. Not a movie, a play. Please welcome Jeremy O'Harris. You're welcome. You're welcome. First off, congratulations on your directorial debut. Thank you. I saw it last night. It's fantastic. Now, it's a movie based on a slave play. For folks who didn't know, slave play, 12 Tony nominations. In a nutshell, what is slave play for people who weren't cool enough like myself to go see it?

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I say this in the dark, and I'm going to keep saying it till the day I die. I don't tell people what slave play is about. I know. Listen, it's more fun if you don't know. If you're going a little confused, but you can also just go to Wikipedia. You can find people on Twitter. Just post a Wikipedia article all the time anyway.

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I was in New York when Slave Play came out, which was just before the pandemic, when it moved to Broadway. It was all the talk. Nobody would tell you what it was about. But People were angry. People were like, It was great. But it was something that I think you found unity in that you pissed off people of all races. Absolutely.

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Yes. I'm a Gemini, so I'm an equal opportunity offender. People are like, That guy all the time. Can you say that here? I don't know.

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You can say whatever the hell you want.

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Okay, great. that a painting helps you see and imagine in a different way a novel. In the same with it. A novel helps you see and imagine a different way than a poem. And what a poem can do in 40 words is so delicious. You don't want that to fall away just because, I don't know, we can tweet now. Right.I mean, which is still pretty fun.It's so fun.Choosing a credit card can get overwhelming. A lot offer great perks like free burritos or access to fancy airport lounges, but they can also come with huge interest rates that cancel out those perks pretty quickly, especially on big purchases. If you want to knock down those rates but still get everyday perks like cashback, which you can totally use to buy burritos, Avon has a credit card that can help you do that. Avon works like a regular credit card, but taps into your home equity to get you really low interest rates. It's the convenience of a credit card with the savings of a home equity line of credit. 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Be green, be energy-efficient, and save with Panasonic.Slate Play is about to open in London, right? And there's been a little drama in London. Oh, God. Oh, God.I try not to talk about this.Well, you're on TV now, Man, buckle up.I did give you the hat, so I think- You did give me the hat. So you got to give me the drama.We got a little bit of drama. Well, you do something called blackout dates, right? And I'll let you explain. What is a blackout date?Okay, London. Hi. I'm so, so, so, so sorry.You think we have that reach? You think we really are speaking in London?I don't know. Listen, this is television. It's not theater. It can go everywhere.Go speak to London.I am so, so sorry that my BBC interview about a thing I had done in London a year prior caused so much ire this time. I don't know why. I didn't do it to cause any ire. But I do think that both in America and in the UK, thinking about the architecture of who's in your audience matters. Having an audience of This is what comedians do every time. They have someone come in and warm up the audience, and they warm them up specifically. If you're going to do an audience of college bros, you better arm whoever's going out there to know what humor gets them going, right? Yes. I think that we have to think about the architecture of the audiences that we've invited into a play. My Play, London is a really intense play about race, trauma, colonization, et cetera. Because of that, when you are a black person or a brown person, person in that audience, it can feel complex to sit next to a white person. Now, that complexity was a part of the play. I wanted that. I love a mixed audience. That's how I grew up. That's how the play is a mixed play.Yet, I had an audience member ask me, What would this feel like to see the show with only black people? Can you give me that? And I said, Why not? It'll only be one or two nights. So we did two nights where I only invited black people. Now, you could come if you wanted Tanya Pinkin brought a white friend. She was like, I wanted to know what it's like when I go see a checkoff play. I was like, That's great. But it was mainly black people. It was Kiki Palmer was there. It was the kid from NYU that DM me the night before being like, Me and all the black student union want to come. It was the first time that I saw my play, and everyone in the audience laughed when I laughed when I was writing it, which was crazy because you see my play, and I think there's a lot of times that white people are nervous about when they're laughing, and when black people are nervous when they're laughing, and no one wants to give the other people permission to laugh because you see someone laughing, you're like, What's you laughing at?And then you laugh and they're like, Well, why are they laughing? And it becomes this whole thing. You see the races? That was a little racial voice play I did there. That was crazy. Thanks, guys. This has been fun.You're also seeing, I think what you're speaking to is something. There is a play that's happening on stage, But what is also compelling in this experience is the tension that we're experiencing in the theater. If we're given this space to articulate that and think through what we are feeling based on what we're seeing other people react to, that in and of itself is a separate performance, and you're trying to curate that in a different lens.But that's how I came up with the play. Why did you tell F. London that? Because you did it so well. But at Yale, when I did this play at Yale, which was a part of the thing, I shouldn't put this in the movie. You know what? I wanted the movie to be short. I don't think the movie should be that long.Sequel.They got a sequel. It'll I'll be in the extra bits on HBO Max. But when we did it at Yale, it was the first time I was the woke class at Yale, the class where they told us, This is the most diverse we've ever had a student body at Yale. They're like, For the first time ever. Yeah, there's the same number of men and women in the class of actors who was like, What? In 2016? They're like, Absolutely.Were they saying that while they were patting themselves on the back?Absolutely. No shade, right? Teachers, they were great. They were trying, whatever. Anyway, we had We had a lot of people of color and women for the first time in our class. Again, for years, no acting conservatory in the country had as many women as men. You know why? Why? Not as many roles for women. They're like, What are we going to do with all those women? There's not enough roles. Instead of just saying, Why don't we find place or invite writers to write more roles for women by just having an influx of them? They just said, We need less.So we didn't like, We only have three sisters.What are we going to do? We only have three sisters.We only got three sisters.So anyway-It's Uncle Vanya.It's not Anne Vanya. Keep moving.But at Yale, one of the cool things and interesting things while going to Yale is that you're in a community. You're in a full town called New Haven, where there are people who saw Lepita Nyonga do her first play at Yale. So not only are you watching people. Not only are people who are watching all the students' plays, the student body, it's also a bunch of older, mainly white people who have seen every play that's ever been at Yale watching the plays, too. My play was in a three-quarter thrust. When slave When it started, because it was so small, you could see everyone seeing everything. Imagine seeing 30 young, black, brown kids right here, and then right across the road from them, also lit by the lights, 50 older white people just looking, and the laughs are like, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, When we were doing the play, I was like, The play has to happen in the round. It has to happen in the round. New York City Workshop was like, We can't afford the round. But Clint, Ramos, and Robert O'Hara, my director is Robert. Clint is the set designer. We're like, We got this.Put those mirrors back there. The mirrors behind it all. The entire show, you got to watch people watch the play, and that becomes the play for me in so many ways. Watching people squirm is fun for me. It's fun for other people. The first time you see it, you'll be squirming. You won't like it. It'll be like, I don't know how I feel about this. But then the second time you come, the third time you come, you get to watch everyone else. You're like, I know the secret, and you don't.For a narcissist, it's great for me because I can just watch myself though. No.I mean, but look at you. You look so great.Thank you very much.Those blue eyes.They're beautiful, right?They are. You get lost.This guy. See, these are the types of conversations we should be having. The documentary Slave Play, not a movie, a play, will debut June 20th, HBO and available to stream on max. Also, go see Invasive Species. This is Jeremy O'Harris.Explore more shows from The Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch The Daily Show weeknights at 11:00, 10:00 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus.Paramount Podcasts.Get ahead with your Panasonic heat pump. Sign up for an annual heat pump service with Aquarius Service Plus. With monthly payment options and fast response times, it's the easy way to maintain your heat pump. We know our energy-efficient heat pumps inside and out, and our Aquarius Service Plus packages are designed to give you peace of mind. Panasonic for a greener future. Search Panasonic heating service for more.It's been a three-year wait, but the Olympics are back, and the CBS Sports Podcast Network has you covered with everything happening in Paris.It's a new era for the US women's national team, and attacking third will tackle all the women's soccer action. First Cut will keep close tabs on golf, while Beyond the Arc will follow the US men's basketball team on a quest for another gold. We need to talk now. We'll provide comprehensive coverage of women's athletes at the Olympic Games. Follow and listen to all CBS Sports podcast for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcast.

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that a painting helps you see and imagine in a different way a novel. In the same with it. A novel helps you see and imagine a different way than a poem. And what a poem can do in 40 words is so delicious. You don't want that to fall away just because, I don't know, we can tweet now. Right.

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I mean, which is still pretty fun.

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It's so fun.

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Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with ZipRecruiter. Ziprecruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. Right now, you can try it for free at ziprecruiter. Com/zip. Ziprecruiter ZipRecruiter's smart technology identifies top talent for your roles quickly. Immediately after you post your job, ZipRecruiter's powerful matching technology starts showing you qualified people for it. And you can use ZipRecruiter's pre-written, invite to Apply message to personally reach out to your favorite candidates and encourage them to apply sooner. Ditch the other hiring sites and let ZipRecruiter find what you're looking for, the needle in the haystack. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at this exclusive web address, ziprecruiter. Com/zip. Again, that's ziprecruiter. Com/zip. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire.

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Slate Play is about to open in London, right? And there's been a little drama in London. Oh, God. Oh, God.

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I try not to talk about this.

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Well, you're on TV now, Man, buckle up.

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I did give you the hat, so I think- You did give me the hat. So you got to give me the drama.

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We got a little bit of drama. Well, you do something called blackout dates, right? And I'll let you explain. What is a blackout date?

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Okay, London. Hi. I'm so, so, so, so sorry.

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You think we have that reach? You think we really are speaking in London?

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I don't know. Listen, this is television. It's not theater. It can go everywhere.

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Go speak to London.

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I am so, so sorry that my BBC interview about a thing I had done in London a year prior caused so much ire this time. I don't know why. I didn't do it to cause any ire. But I do think that both in America and in the UK, thinking about the architecture of who's in your audience matters. Having an audience of This is what comedians do every time. They have someone come in and warm up the audience, and they warm them up specifically. If you're going to do an audience of college bros, you better arm whoever's going out there to know what humor gets them going, right? Yes. I think that we have to think about the architecture of the audiences that we've invited into a play. My Play, London is a really intense play about race, trauma, colonization, et cetera. Because of that, when you are a black person or a brown person, person in that audience, it can feel complex to sit next to a white person. Now, that complexity was a part of the play. I wanted that. I love a mixed audience. That's how I grew up. That's how the play is a mixed play.

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Yet, I had an audience member ask me, What would this feel like to see the show with only black people? Can you give me that? And I said, Why not? It'll only be one or two nights. So we did two nights where I only invited black people. Now, you could come if you wanted Tanya Pinkin brought a white friend. She was like, I wanted to know what it's like when I go see a checkoff play. I was like, That's great. But it was mainly black people. It was Kiki Palmer was there. It was the kid from NYU that DM me the night before being like, Me and all the black student union want to come. It was the first time that I saw my play, and everyone in the audience laughed when I laughed when I was writing it, which was crazy because you see my play, and I think there's a lot of times that white people are nervous about when they're laughing, and when black people are nervous when they're laughing, and no one wants to give the other people permission to laugh because you see someone laughing, you're like, What's you laughing at?

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And then you laugh and they're like, Well, why are they laughing? And it becomes this whole thing. You see the races? That was a little racial voice play I did there. That was crazy. Thanks, guys. This has been fun.

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You're also seeing, I think what you're speaking to is something. There is a play that's happening on stage, But what is also compelling in this experience is the tension that we're experiencing in the theater. If we're given this space to articulate that and think through what we are feeling based on what we're seeing other people react to, that in and of itself is a separate performance, and you're trying to curate that in a different lens.

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But that's how I came up with the play. Why did you tell F. London that? Because you did it so well. But at Yale, when I did this play at Yale, which was a part of the thing, I shouldn't put this in the movie. You know what? I wanted the movie to be short. I don't think the movie should be that long.

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Sequel.

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They got a sequel. It'll I'll be in the extra bits on HBO Max. But when we did it at Yale, it was the first time I was the woke class at Yale, the class where they told us, This is the most diverse we've ever had a student body at Yale. They're like, For the first time ever. Yeah, there's the same number of men and women in the class of actors who was like, What? In 2016? They're like, Absolutely.

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Were they saying that while they were patting themselves on the back?

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Absolutely. No shade, right? Teachers, they were great. They were trying, whatever. Anyway, we had We had a lot of people of color and women for the first time in our class. Again, for years, no acting conservatory in the country had as many women as men. You know why? Why? Not as many roles for women. They're like, What are we going to do with all those women? There's not enough roles. Instead of just saying, Why don't we find place or invite writers to write more roles for women by just having an influx of them? They just said, We need less.

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So we didn't like, We only have three sisters.

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What are we going to do? We only have three sisters.

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We only got three sisters.

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So anyway-It's Uncle Vanya.

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It's not Anne Vanya. Keep moving.

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But at Yale, one of the cool things and interesting things while going to Yale is that you're in a community. You're in a full town called New Haven, where there are people who saw Lepita Nyonga do her first play at Yale. So not only are you watching people. Not only are people who are watching all the students' plays, the student body, it's also a bunch of older, mainly white people who have seen every play that's ever been at Yale watching the plays, too. My play was in a three-quarter thrust. When slave When it started, because it was so small, you could see everyone seeing everything. Imagine seeing 30 young, black, brown kids right here, and then right across the road from them, also lit by the lights, 50 older white people just looking, and the laughs are like, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, When we were doing the play, I was like, The play has to happen in the round. It has to happen in the round. New York City Workshop was like, We can't afford the round. But Clint, Ramos, and Robert O'Hara, my director is Robert. Clint is the set designer. We're like, We got this.

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Put those mirrors back there. The mirrors behind it all. The entire show, you got to watch people watch the play, and that becomes the play for me in so many ways. Watching people squirm is fun for me. It's fun for other people. The first time you see it, you'll be squirming. You won't like it. It'll be like, I don't know how I feel about this. But then the second time you come, the third time you come, you get to watch everyone else. You're like, I know the secret, and you don't.

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For a narcissist, it's great for me because I can just watch myself though. No.

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I mean, but look at you. You look so great.

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Thank you very much.

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Those blue eyes.

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They're beautiful, right?

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They are. You get lost.

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This guy. See, these are the types of conversations we should be having. The documentary Slave Play, not a movie, a play, will debut June 20th, HBO and available to stream on max. Also, go see Invasive Species. This is Jeremy O'Harris.

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Explore more shows from The Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch The Daily Show weeknights at 11:00, 10:00 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus.

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Paramount Podcasts.

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It's been a three-year wait, but the Olympics are back, and the CBS Sports Podcast Network has you covered with everything happening in Paris.

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It's a new era for the US women's national team, and attacking third will tackle all the women's soccer action. First Cut will keep close tabs on golf, while Beyond the Arc will follow the US men's basketball team on a quest for another gold. We need to talk now. We'll provide comprehensive coverage of women's athletes at the Olympic Games. Follow and listen to all CBS Sports podcast for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcast.