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From the most trusted journalist at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host, Michael Kosta. Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm your host, Michael Costa. We've got so much to talk about tonight. Kamala Harris has a new work husband. We send Jordan Klepper to another MAGA rally, and Ed Helms is here. So let's get into another edition of Indecision 2024. All right, let's talk about the major news in the presidential Race. Ever since Kamala Harris became the de facto nominee, there have been two questions on everyone's mind. One, why does the sun go up and down if the Earth is spinning left to right? And two, who is going to be Kamala's running mate? Everyone had their own suggestions. Pick someone from a swing state. Pick a good communicator. One guy was like, Pick someone with a sick Corvette. Hey, it's over, Joe. Let it go. But most importantly, everyone agreed that it had to to be a white man. Well, today, we found out if Kamala listened.

We begin this hour with the breaking news from the presidential campaign trail, where Vice President, Harris, has chosen Minnesota Governor Tim Walls to be her running mate.

Hang on. Hang on.

It's a white man.

It's a white man. Yeah. I should have I have a cousin who's white. So this is big news. Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota governor Tim Walls as her running mate, and the reactions are pouring in.

I think Tim Walls could be an excellent governing partner to Kamala Harris and a real asset here.

He does come across as someone who is really relatable.

Somebody that people just enjoy spending time with.

A Trump campaign fundraising text message that went out to supporters goes, Tim Walls will unleash hell on Earth.

Mostly positive. One, unleash hell on Earth, but mostly positive. Obviously, there's some disagreement here, so let's find out about this Tim Walsh, which, by the way, it's not Walsh. It's Walsh, W-A-L-Z. You see, he's suffering from low T. Trump, you can have that one if you want. Now, obviously, I already know all about Tim Walls, as I have a well of knowledge about every governor in America, even the ones from the boring states. But since you guys You guys have probably never heard of this guy before, I googled him in a panic on your behalf this morning. And what I found out is that Tim Walls got a lot done as governor. He legalized marijuana, passed family. Yeah, It's a weed crowd. Yeah, he passed family and sick leave. He codified abortion rights, and he provided free meals for all school kids, which makes him an ironic VP pick. Democrats said, Man, you've done so much as governor. We'd like to promote you to a position where you'll do absolutely nothing. But if you ask me, his appeal to this ticket isn't just the record as governor. It's his overall vibe. And that vibe, it's Midwestern dad as fuck.

Hey, everybody. Tim here. Eleven days till the election, but that's my pro tip of the day out on the road. I got to show you This right here is the headlight harness on a 2014 Ford Edge. This is unacceptable. It burned out hot on the connector. So for 799 at Napa Auto Parts here in the city, you can replace this. Just clip off the back, use some shrink wrap connectors on there, tape it back together and put it back in. It's about a five minute fix and you're back on the road, safe and sound.

Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. That is the most dad video I've ever seen in my life. That is a man who watches Band of Brothers while standing up with his arms crossed. If this dude becomes vice president, they're going to find him out on the White House lawn changing the oil on a predator drone. Don't call the Pentagon. They'll charge you an arm and a leg. All it needs is a countersung headbolt. Come here. I'll show you. Come here. Now, here's another classic Midwest dad thing. He's got a Gen Z daughter, and He doesn't quite understand her.

Every year, we as a family do something old and something new, but then we're going to go get some food. Corn dog? I'm vegetarian. Turkey then? Turkey's meat.

He's trying so hard. He's trying so hard. You don't eat meat? Well, fish isn't meat, and turkey's like, Let's get a cheeseburger. It makes it harder for the alt-right to call I'll call you a soy boy when you're like, Bison is a vegetable. And Tim Walsh is not just a Midwestern dad now. He's been a Midwestern dad his whole life. He's serving the National Guard. He has his own award-winning Tater Tots Hot Dish. How much more Midwestern can he get?

In 1994, he married fellow school teacher Gwen Walls. They moved to Mankado in the mid '90s, where he began teaching and coaching football at Mankado West High School.

Oh, my God. He was a small town high school football coach, and he's been married for 30 years, and he's eating a bucket of cookies? Leave it to Minnesota to measure cookies by the bucket. This guy is almost too Midwestern. Even his bad stuff is still Midwestern.

In 1995, Five, Tim Walsh was arrested in Nebraska for driving under the influence. He was driving 96 miles an hour in a 55-mile-per-hour zone. Well, yeah.

I mean, of course he was driving that fast. He had to get home before he heard anybody driving drunk. He's from the Midwest. I should know. So yes, Tim Walsh has a DUI arrest, but just one. So no wonder voters elected him governor. He's the most responsible driver in the whole Midwest. For more on the selection of Tim Walsh, we go live to the announcement rally with our very own Josh Johnson. Josh. What's the word on this pick?

People are liking this decision, Michael, because Tim Walsh balances the ticket. Kamla Harris is a woman, he's a man. She's from California. He's from the Midwest. She is young and he is old.

Actually, Josh, they're the same age.

No, they're not.

They're the same age. Yeah, they are.

There's no way that's true. You're telling me Kamala Harris is the same age as that man looks like the Skipper from Gilligan's Island?

I know.

I know, but they're born six months apart.

I think you're a damn liar. But whatever, because the most important dynamic here is that she is black and he is the right type of white guy.

Right type of white guy? What do you mean? There's just white guys.

You can't see it because you're in it, but there's many types of white guys.

Okay, I'm going to have to stop you right there because I find that offensive.

And that makes sense because you are the type of white guy who's easily offended, all right? But there's lots of other types. You got hipsters, jocks, nerds, those guys that always scream, Let's go! No one knows where they're going.

I see some of those types are going to like Walsh, but some are going to like JD Vance.

Exactly. Walsh appeals to the older white guy who always tells the same joke to the server at Denny's.

The one where he points to his empty plate and says, I guess I hated it.

That's a great joke because he clearly loved it.

Me Meanwhile, JD Vance appeals to the older white guys who say things like, I'm not racist, but...

And then say the most racist shit you've ever heard.

Tim Walsh appeals to white guys who hang an American flag. Jd Vance appeals to white guys who hang a bunch of American flags.

You know what I mean?

Tim Walsh appeals to white guys who call CBS to make a donation. Jd Vance appeals to white guys who call Fox News to say their gold coins haven't arrived in the mail.

I was too close to the situation that I missed the nuance. There's different white guys, just like there's different black guys. There's a a black guy-I'm going to stop you right there.

Michael, you're right, okay? But as your friend, you're correct, but for your career's sake, I'm going to ask you not to start naming the different type of black guys right now.

Well, look, and I'll be the type of white guy who listens to the black guy. Josh Johnson, everybody. When we come back, Jordan Clemper goes to a Trump rally, you don't want to miss him. That was really helpful. Welcome back to The Daily Show. Today is all about Tim Walsh, but Donald Trump is still out on the campaign trail, and that means Jordan Klepper is, too. Check it out.

The last three weeks have been some of the most eventful in American political history. So I went to Harrisburg, PA, to see how the Magga world is reflecting on these serious times. First, I want to know how they're coping with the loss of their favorite punching bag. I've seen you many, many times here. What number rally we at? Eighty-two. Are you sad about the Let's Go Biden chant being retired? I'm sad because of all I've invested in all this anti-Biden gear. How much Let's Go branded anti-Joh Biden merch did you have?

Thousands of dollars.

Is that right? Wow. I buy it at the Let's Go Brandon store in Tom's River, New Jersey. Do they have to rename that? I think they're going to have to rename it. How about one more for old time's sake?

Joe and the Hoe.

Now the name calling of Vice President Harris begins. If they could only decide how to mispronounce that name.

I'm surprised Kamala even has a chance.

No one likes Kamala.

They want a Kamala in. That's why I don't like to hear about the Kamala thing.

Why do you say your name like that? How do you say it? Kamala? No, it's Kamala.

Kamala.

Kamala. Kamala. Kamala. There you go. I appreciate that you're trying to say the name correctly. Yes.

I actually am not, but I inadvertently...

How would you want to say it? Kamala?

It's the way Bush used to say Saddam Hussein.

Saddam. Did you workshopping elevating Kamala to Saddam Hussein levels? Kamala Harris is a bigger threat. More anti-American than Saddam Hussein? Yes, the most anti-American candidate for president we've ever had. I got to tell you, if I ran into you three weeks ago, you might have said that about Joe Biden. That's right. Do you think Kamala is qualified to Are you kidding me, President?

Somebody that cackles all the time and laughs and everything under the sun? Are you kidding me?

A woman experiencing joy, not your thing? She's useless.

She's backpedaling on all her previous comments.

Is that your issue with her? Yeah. Yes. What do you like about JD Vans? He's a man of the people. You think he'll stand up for Trump? Yeah. Vance will stand up to the people who compare Donald Trump to Hitler. What happens if those people are also JD Vance? He has acquainted Donald Trump to Hitler, America's Hitler. Years ago. He flip-flop. People can change. Yeah, but I still am like a parents. There you go. Apparently, writing a book about your opioid-addicted family makes you more qualified than any Black woman could ever be. I heard she got up the ladder on her back. Right, but millions of people voted for Kamala Harris. Did she sleep with all of them? I just don't know. No. No. But how do you sleep? You were to the top of elected positions. I don't know how she got to where she is, except if the word is DEI. What do you think of JD Vance?

I think he picked him for votes in the Rust Belt.

So Trump wanted diversity on the ticket. Yeah, so he wanted diversity on his ticket. Sure. Over the years, the MAGA crowd has faced a lot of criticism, but none more stinging than the line of attack started by Kamala's new VP candidate, Tim Walsh.

These guys are just weird. These are weird people on the other side.

Democrats are trying to call the MAGA movement weird. What do you think of that?

I don't know what's weird about it.

Is it fair, though, to call the MAGA movement inherently an unserious movement? I don't think so. Do you think the discourse has gotten too ridiculous? I think so. Yeah. I just think, except that from an outside perspective, it feels like you come to a MAGA event and there isn't the seriousness. It's not about people trying to fix America. It feels like a carnival. Yeah. Is that a fair critique?

No, I don't think so.

No, I mean, these are people who just genuinely care about the country.

People come here, they want to talk policy. They want to talk about God, they want to talk abortion rights. This isn't a freaking carnival. It's not Halloween. We're not all dressing up like lunatics. It's a serious thing here. Absolutely. You do know you're wearing that hat right now? Yeah. Okay, cool. The rally was just three weeks after a truly tragic day in US politics. The official story was that the assassination attempt was committed by a disturbed young man who was a registered a Republican. But this crowd isn't always into official stories. I think people on both sides can agree. That was a horrific moment in our history. It was. Looking back at it, do you believe the things you hear? Oh, no, I don't. I believe it's an inside job. The shooting was an inside job? Yes. A lot of things aren't adding up.

It's very strange.

I think that was a planned job. Anybody with any common sense knows that was a planned job.

Planned by who?

The Dems.

The Lefts. The Deep State. Obama is involved in this. You think Obama set up the assassination attempt?

I think he surely knew about it.

It's the government, for sure. It's government? I think so. You think they would go through all of this? They really wanted to take out Trump. Wouldn't they just poison a Big Mac? I don't know. It's the dance, the FBI, the Special Service. Does it surprise you to hear that it was a disgruntled white guy, Republican, Gunnut?

No, because you know what? We'll I don't even know why he was picked.

It's the perfect cover. Exactly. They could have gotten a disgruntled black guy, and I'm not...

No problem. And they could have gotten a disgruntled black female.

But no, they picked the disgruntled white guy who's into guns at a Trump rally. There you go. It's like a Where's Waldo situation. Yes. It's like, Oh, my God. Who doesn't fit that profile here? Exactly.

Just about the security and everything there, it's like something wasn't right there from the beginning.

I don't It's me. It's like this kid was able to get an AR-15 that easily? What the hell?

Yeah.

It doesn't add up in that it adds up so cleanly, it feels too easy. Exactly.

There's no paper. They can only go so far, and it's like a dead end.

It's a situation where you want to connect the two dots, but it's just much easier to go all the way around. Exactly. Thank you, Jordan.

When we come back, Ed Helms will be joining me on the show. So don't care a lot. Welcome back to The Dair Show. My guest tonight is an actor, writer, producer who hosts a podcast about history's greatest screw-ups called Snapoo. Please welcome back Ed Helms. All right.

All right. I have to say, Jon Stewart, you look incredible. Isn't that amazing?

Thank you very much for that. I'll take it as a compliment because I watched Jon Stewart my whole life, and now I'm sitting in the chair that he sits on, occasionally on Mondays.

Yeah.

Let's talk about your podcast, and then we'll get into The Daily Show because I got to ask you about working here at The Daily Show. But your podcast, second season is called Snapoo. Yes. It's about the break-in of the FBI offices.

Yes.

The Washington reporter who reported on it. Yes. What the are you doing? I thought you worked in comedy.

I just say yes. Yes. That's all I do in interviews. Yes. Okay. It is a podcast. It's called Snapoo. It's about history's greatest screw-ups. Season one, we talked about this incredible story about a NATO military exercise in 1983 that almost turned into a nuclear Holocaust stomach deal. It's really actually darkly funny. Season 2 that's out now, we talk about these incredible activists in 1971 who felt like the FBI was getting a little out of hand and starting to harass people and surveil people. And they were right, but they didn't have any way to prove it. So they broke into an FBI office. They just broke into the FBI. And it's as hard as it sounds. And they stole a bunch of documents, and then they started to leak them to a reporter at the Washington Post named Betty Medsker, who was very courageous and published them. And then years later, by the way, this all led to lots of fallout, the church committee hearings, which then led to Congressional oversight of the FBI and the CIA and the USA and all these things. It's a very big deal what these people did. It's largely forgotten, sadly.

But Betty Metsker, Then wrote a book in 2014, and that's what that is, The Burglary. It's an incredible story.

40% of the case files that the crew stole dealt with surveillance of legal political activity. Correct. 1% covered organized crime. Right? It's like, what? And by the way, I don't really know, but I feel like that could also pertain to today's date.

Well, it's like that was when J.

Edgar Hoover- Can I read you another one, even though it's your podcast? Yes. My only document revealed that every black student at Swarthmore College was under FBI surveillance. I mean, what the fuck is going on?

Basically, if J. Edgar Hoover thought that you were some hooligan, which was anyone who opposed the Vietnam War, anyone involved in the civil rights movement, and anyone with long hair. Or a tie-to.

That one, I get.

Sure, you get that. Yeah, of course. If J. Edgar Hoover thought you were a problem for society, he was going to surveil and harass you, and the entire FBI apparatus was going to do that, too. And thankfully, these burglars proved that was happening, and It was fixed for a little while.

Then there was the Patriot Act and all kinds of the Cold War and lots of other complicating factors.

But it is still an important question to always be asking. Are we protecting our Civil Liberties enough? Does law enforcement have enough power? Probably. Where's the line?

But, Ed, I don't do anything wrong. I don't care if they tap into my computer. Same I'm here, man. What's the big deal? I put a piece of Scotch tape over my webcam when I masturbate. It doesn't matter.

What does it matter? You masturbate? Oh, my gosh. Let's talk about this.

I'm just doing... First of all, I want to go on the record and say, I do not masturbate. That is a kickback response I can envision someone saying. I don't have anything to hide. What's the big deal about surveillance? What is the big deal about surveillance?

You're right. I think a lot of people ask that when it comes up, when law enforcement power comes up, it's like, Yeah, I'm not doing anything wrong. But what The problem with surveillance, when it's done on such a huge scale and you're surveilling people who are not doing anything wrong, it then becomes leverage over you that you have no control over. If for any reason the FBI or some institution wants to implicate you for any reason, they suddenly have the leverage to do so, whether or not you've done something wrong. That's very scary, and it's not okay.

Talk about, because this was fascinating to me, they burglarized the FBI office, and they sent these copies of files out to a lot of different people. But only one of them, this woman, was courageous enough to report. I mean, what was that like for her?

That's a great question. So Betty Metzger was a very young reporter at the Washington Post. She receives this envelope. It's full of FBI files. She's like, What the hell? What do you want to do with this? Meanwhile, the burglars also sent copies of the files, as you mentioned, to some senators and some other reporters. The senators immediately turned them over to the FBI. The other reporters chickened out. But Betty Medsker and the brass at the Washington Post, which later, of course, Woodward Bernstein, Watergate, and the Pentagon papers, that all came after this. But they were courageous enough to put this out here. And really, Betty Metzger is a force of nature. For sure. And she's in the podcast. She worked with us to tell this story.

She's great in the podcast. She tells the story of after this got published, the article, not the book, she picked up the phone to call her friend, and the FBI is just on the line saying, What are you doing? Yeah.

That sucks. This is exactly what the burglars were trying to call out.

This is why I put Scotch tape on my computer.

Is this Why are you masturbating? This article gets published in the New York Times. She picks up her phone the next day, and so there's a voice on her phone that says, Who are you trying to call?

So messed What? Yeah. It's great. It's a great listen. You're somehow funny in it, even though it's a serious topic. Thank you. So good job. Speaking of funny, The Office, The Hangover, The Daily Show. What does that evoke? What does that evoke, those images? Oh, my Do you remember the Los Angeles green screen? Well, sorry. I mean, on location.

I was in a cocaine fever dream the whole time. No, it's so fun to come back here. I just love... I have such fond memories. It's been like 18 years since I worked here. Holy shit. Which is incredible. But I have to say, I've watched the show ever since I left. I still love it. And you guys, this crop of correspondence, you guys are crushing it.

Thank you very much. Right?

This is...

If you had to pick one.

I'm just kidding.

Oftentimes, when I'm out in the field doing something that is hard, doing a piece on the desk, being here, I always wonder, Is this helping me somehow? Is this going to help me later? Should I be focused in the present moment? Yes. Sure. But you come to me from the future. Yes. You've gone on to do all these great comedy things, and now this season 2 of the podcast, snafu. But what has helped you from The Daily Show as you moved on?

Nothing. Nothing?

Yeah, nothing. I will say I have a good answer to question.

You have a good answer. Okay, great. The Daily Show was my first real comedy job. It taught me, really through John's example, the discipline and the focus and the hard work that it takes and some of the real sweat that it takes to create good comedy or just good product. It's hard work. I've carried that with me for years since then. This is where I started. Here we are.

That's great. That's awesome. Are there any field pieces you did that now would be considered an HR nightmare? Is there anything that comes to mind?

Yes. An HR nightmare. I think.

Yeah, we actually have HR now. We actually have HR now.

Okay, well, there you go. Yeah, exactly. There were no HR nightmares 20 years ago.

Because of you. Yeah.

Yeah. The reason that they have it now?

Yeah, what comes to mind? Anything that's like, you know.

Convention. Should I create a fresh HR nightmare by bringing them up? No, I have... Gosh, I have so many great memories. I really loved going to the conventions. Are you guys headed to the-Yes, we are.

We're going to Chicago.

So exciting. We have real press credentials. I remember this is It's really funny. We got to the Republican Convention, which was at Madison Square Garden, just down the street. We get to the security checkpoint, and Rob Cordry forgot his driver's license. And everyone had to have a picture ID. So we're like, Oh, God. And then he looks up and Rob goes, Does that count as a picture ID? Comedy Central had bought a giant billboard with all of our faces and our names right next to Madison Square Garden. It was the Indecision 2002 or 2004 or whatever. And the security guard was like, Yeah, I guess that's you.

Different time. That's amazing. That's amazing that Comedy Central bought a billboard. Yes. Thank you for sitting down with us. You're one of my favorites. That's really great. Congrats on Snapoo. New episodes of Snapoo, Medberg, air weekly on the iHeartRadio and everywhere podcast I heard. Ed Helms. Can you take a quick break? We'll be right back after this. Thanks for sharing your Medberg. That's our show for the night. Now, here it is, your Norman of Zen.

On the way to the flight in Cincinnati, I guess in Northern Kentucky, I actually called Tim Walsh. I left a voicemail. I didn't get him. But I just said, Look, congratulations. Look forward to a robust conversation.

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