Hi, I'm Robert Van Luwen from New York Times Games.

I'm here talking to people about Wurtle and showing them this new feature. Do you all play Wurtle? Yeah. I have something exciting to show you.

It's the Wurtle Archive.

If I miss it, I can go back. A hundred %. Oh, that's sick.

Now you can play every Wurtle that has ever existed. There's like a thousand puzzles.

Oh my God, I love it.

Actually, that's really great. What date would you pick?

May 17th. Okay.

That's her birthday.

What are some of your habits for playing Wurtle? I wake up, I make a cup of coffee, I do the Wurtle, and that he is now. So, yeah, I mean, I think people get fooled by the names on paper. But, yeah, those names have been built throughout their career, and now they're older, so they're not what they used to be.I just teed you up to say the US is going to kick everyone's ass. Instead, you gave an even-handed nuanced answer. I mean, that's the goal.You also got to understand, a lot of us haven't played with each other, so that's going to be a brand new start, and you got to learn each other and find the best way to play together.Before we go, I just wanted to say that You know that the sports media hot take machine is going to go into overdrive because you said that if it hadn't been for injuries, you'd be in the greatest of all time conversation.That's okay because that's the truth. You think about what I've been able to accomplish and what has been taken away because of injuries. There's a lot of what ifs, but then again, you can make the case of being up there You also, in the context of your younger brother, talked about your understanding that life is bigger than basketball.At the end of the day, the wins and losses are like, they're actually not the most important thing. Do you think there's any way in which understanding that inhibits your own fire or will to win? If you actually know that winning is not the most important thing, does that in any way hold you back?No, because if it hold me back, I would have never been through injuries. No, I live in the present, and the present means any chance I don't get, go after it as far as winning. But then also understanding that when I'm done, I should not have any regrets.Joel, thank you for taking all the time to talk with me, and good luck at the Olympics.Thank you. Appreciate you.That's Joel Embiid, the Olympics kickoff Friday. This conversation was produced by Seth Kelly. It was edited by Annabelle Bacon, mixing by Hafim Shapiro. Original music by Dan Powell and Marion Lozano. Photography by Philip Montgomery. Our senior Booker is Priya Matthew, and our producer is Wyatt Orm. Our executive producer is Allison Benedict. Special thanks to Naïla Orr, Rory Walsh, Ronan Borelli, Jeffrey Miranda, Maddie Macielo, Jake Silverstein, Paula Schumann, and Sam Delnick. If you like what you're hearing, follow or subscribe to The Interview wherever you get your podcasts. To read or listen to any of our conversations, you can always go to nytimes. Com/theinterview. Email us anytime at theinterview@nytimes. Com. Next week, Lulu speaks with Melinda French-Gates about life after divorce and her work in philanthropy. For me personally, I don't need my name on the side of a building in perpetuity. That's not what I'm about. I'm about how do I move society forward for the betterment of everybody. And so that my grandchildren and my grandchildren's grandchildren get to live in an even better world than I do now. I'm David Markezi, and this is the interview from the New York Times.

that he is now. So, yeah, I mean, I think people get fooled by the names on paper. But, yeah, those names have been built throughout their career, and now they're older, so they're not what they used to be.

I just teed you up to say the US is going to kick everyone's ass. Instead, you gave an even-handed nuanced answer. I mean, that's the goal.

You also got to understand, a lot of us haven't played with each other, so that's going to be a brand new start, and you got to learn each other and find the best way to play together.

Before we go, I just wanted to say that You know that the sports media hot take machine is going to go into overdrive because you said that if it hadn't been for injuries, you'd be in the greatest of all time conversation.

That's okay because that's the truth. You think about what I've been able to accomplish and what has been taken away because of injuries. There's a lot of what ifs, but then again, you can make the case of being up there You also, in the context of your younger brother, talked about your understanding that life is bigger than basketball.

At the end of the day, the wins and losses are like, they're actually not the most important thing. Do you think there's any way in which understanding that inhibits your own fire or will to win? If you actually know that winning is not the most important thing, does that in any way hold you back?

No, because if it hold me back, I would have never been through injuries. No, I live in the present, and the present means any chance I don't get, go after it as far as winning. But then also understanding that when I'm done, I should not have any regrets.

Joel, thank you for taking all the time to talk with me, and good luck at the Olympics.

Thank you. Appreciate you.

That's Joel Embiid, the Olympics kickoff Friday. This conversation was produced by Seth Kelly. It was edited by Annabelle Bacon, mixing by Hafim Shapiro. Original music by Dan Powell and Marion Lozano. Photography by Philip Montgomery. Our senior Booker is Priya Matthew, and our producer is Wyatt Orm. Our executive producer is Allison Benedict. Special thanks to Naïla Orr, Rory Walsh, Ronan Borelli, Jeffrey Miranda, Maddie Macielo, Jake Silverstein, Paula Schumann, and Sam Delnick. If you like what you're hearing, follow or subscribe to The Interview wherever you get your podcasts. To read or listen to any of our conversations, you can always go to nytimes. Com/theinterview. Email us anytime at theinterview@nytimes. Com. Next week, Lulu speaks with Melinda French-Gates about life after divorce and her work in philanthropy. For me personally, I don't need my name on the side of a building in perpetuity. That's not what I'm about. I'm about how do I move society forward for the betterment of everybody. And so that my grandchildren and my grandchildren's grandchildren get to live in an even better world than I do now. I'm David Markezi, and this is the interview from the New York Times.