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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.

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Hey, welcome back to the Dan Bongino Show. We are live at the RNC. I've got a co-host and really an amazing guest. Let me just give you a heads up. First, My Pillow. Having a $25 extravaganza sale on some of their amazing products. You can check out the deals at mypillow. Com. Make sure you use promo code Dan. Great company. Paid for the show. Really appreciate it. Folks, so today we're here at the RNC, and I've obviously known about Russell Brandt forever. We were just having a conversation. You're never supposed to have conversations off the air because have it on the air, whatever. But it's important. I said to him, Russell, you should be really proud of yourself. I said, Most people in their lives, not you out there in the audience, not meant as an insult or anything like that to be derogatory, but most people get one act. They do. Whatever that is, you may be the best writer, the best poet, you may be the best sanitation worker. Man, listen, everybody in this world adds value and makes the world a better place. Almost nobody gets two acts. Almost nobody gets three acts.

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I said to Russell, I think you and I share a lot in common because you were a World class comedian known all over the world. You were an actor in some of the most epic movies ever, Forgetting Sarah Mars. I said, People must still to this day. Now you're one of the world's top podcasters on Rumble and elsewhere, and you're in your third act doing It's just amazing. Again, I've got Avita with me right here from early edition with Avita. We're both going to be hitting Russell with some questions. He's been kind enough to join us for about a half an hour. Russell, how does that make you feel, though, having been in all these spaces? I can see you're thinking about that now that I should save your answer for your third act, man. It never happens.

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When being at somewhere like the RNC, even though it's entirely novel to me, there are things that are familiar, too. For example, when you're inside the entertainment industry and you go to award ceremonies, there's a particular atmosphere and a sense of hierarchy and power and trends. There are certain patterns, it seems, that move through life. I was interested, Dan, and when we were speaking earlier on air, how you have deployed your abilities in various areas also. Still, I suppose at the root of it, you feel like there is some essential thing in you that's looking to express itself. Because of the way that things are politically right now, over the course of today, while I've been talking to people that are obviously strongly associated with the right, who are figures of the right, from my country, Nigel Farage or Marjorie Taylor, Mean. Nigel Slate, I've known him for a long time, and I've had actual confrontations, verbal confrontations with him on air. But Marjorie Taylor-Green, I've only seen her and how she's condemned and treated in ordinary media. She's one of those people where I looked at her and I I can tell she's all right.

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I can tell she's a person that I recognize. I know that type of woman from England, like women that are not going to take any shit, and I like that. But I know that because there are still legacy media outlets that I feel their encroachment and their tendrils. I've been attacked by them so many, many times. I've moved through that world. It's difficult to feel like you owe any loyalty or fealty to organizations and institutions that have such, it seems to me, at least, what I've experienced, abominable values. When I first came out, I did this interview.

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You almost did, but in a real way, not like in some artificial way.

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It was, firstly, I did an interview on the BBC in the UK, probably over 10 years ago now, with a guy called Jeremy Paxman, who was the defining pundit, stroke, anchor in UK news. He was the guy that would take politicians to task and ask them the difficult question and be a bullish and abrasive with them. I had an interview with him once where I said that I don't believe in either party. I wouldn't vote for any of them, and no one that I grew up with votes for people either because we don't believe in politics. I think whoever you vote for, you get the same thing. They're all corrupted and owned by the same set of interests and systems. There was this moment where some people within liberal media had been excited about me for various reasons, whether it was to do with the entertainment industry. But I noticed how quickly they turned on me when I became openly anti-establishment. The people that were worst were not the right-wing media. In my country, that's organizations like the Telegraph, say, for example, but the ones that meant to be liberal. And liberalism, the way they present it is meant to be about equality and civil rights and kindness and love, values that you might find in spirituality or religion.

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And obviously, now I would see it from a perspective of Christianity. They were the people that seemed to take the most delight in being cruel and being mean. But just so that it's not just about myself, because I obviously talk about myself a lot. I had the realization with Marjorie, before I met her, if Marjorie Taylor-Green, if it suited them, When she was bringing down Anthony Fauci, they would go, Look at this woman and how she handles the patriarchy. This is a feminist icon. But because they don't like the stuff she says or the class she's from and the way that she talks, they're like, If they could, they would just call her a bitch or a whore, but no, they're not allowed to use those words. That's what they're thinking. That's what they're thinking. I actually think that's what they believe. As I've moved through these various worlds, in a way, I've been doing the same thing. In fact, I don't know that I ever would have even become a stand-up comedian had I been introduced to the possibility that you could get involved in evangelism or preaching or talking to congregations. But the culture that I come from, people don't tell you openly God is real.

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There is a way that there are There is pools, there is access, there is a system of belief that can help you navigate these spaces. That's why I became, speak just for myself, but I think it's pretty common, become a drug addict and an alcoholic is because, is this it? Am I supposed to stay alive and experience this? What is the meaning? What is the value? And then pursuing fame and becoming famous and sleeping around and doing drugs and having access to fame and money. Is this it? Is this it?

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All of it. You find like it's an endless search for dopamine, sex, drugs. If this is it, I might as well have a good time, right? I mean, just get the dopamine high.

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Well, I don't actually think that it was just accepting dopamine and pleasure. I think it was the pursuit, the feverish pursuit of something beautiful and something real. And it's only now, as a father of three kids, at this point in my life, I'm beginning to get a real sense of what it is, even though I've also insight to get there. So yes, it was intoxicating. It was bewildering. I'm very glad I've had the experience because I suppose now as a father, these are things that I can offer to my children. Lord alone knows whether or not they'll listen, but I can tell them about the reality of drugs. I can tell them about the reality of fame, of money, and the necessity for a spiritual life, the importance of having a purpose. But even as I'm saying this, I'm thinking, they're not listening to me now. Now, and they're six and seven, and they're already swearing at me and kicking my ass at regular intervals and behaving how they want to. So hopefully, I'll be able to deliver some of these lessons.I have to ask you about kids in Hollywood because you said it's intoxicating and it was corrupt, and you were an adult. And there are so many kids who go into this industry, they get chewed up and spit out. I mean, it's just awful. There was a documentary about kids who were on Nickelodeon that came out on HBO, and there was sexual abuse, and none of them became realized adults because it was so stunting. Do you think that kids should even be in Hollywood as a father?Could it be allowed? I don't know that I would do it. I feel like kids maybe enjoy showing off, but I did a couple of movies that had kids in them, and I felt like, this don't seem right somehow. I don't mean in any nefarious way. In particular, I can remember a movie I did with Adam Sandler, and that guy's a straight-up beautiful dude. I love him.And he ran his sexy- Is that Bedtime Stories? Yeah, exactly. Loved that movie.So the kids in that. There was just weird stuff of the kids have... The kids can only work a certain number of hours a day, so the kids have doubles. So there were some kids that are the stars, and then there were kids that double for them. And the kids that are the stars get treated real nice. But the kids that are just the doubles are like, Now you get in there. That's weird. It was like those kids. Then one time, they had a little person, a small person, whatever you call them, like a dwarf, I guess, doing it. That was a crazy day because I didn't know that it was really turned around. I was surprised. It was a weird little world inside there. Also the idea of monetizing childhood. I don't know. The show business has always had traditions of doing that stuff. But when you learn, as I'm aware of that Nickelodeon documentary, that there's an institutionalized exploitation that seems extremely common, and we're all talking about it in various ways, the use of trafficking, exploitation. Yeah, there's just some things going on there. Me, I don't think I want my children anywhere near that.I don't put them on social media or nothing like that just because of the experiences I've had with famous celebrity and because I know how famous celebrity can turn. It's amazing whenever I'm thinking you're wonderful, but what about if they just change their mind? What if you say something they don't like? Then you're ready for a different go on a carousel.Russell, exit question. You've been generous with your time. Folks, you can find his show, by the way, on Rumbel. Russell Brand has his own show. It is phenomenal. Just put his name in the search bar, give him a follow. Click that green button. We really appreciate him on Rumbel. He's a huge advocate for free speech. Lighter question on the way out. We've been talking politics, Christianity, serious topics, polluting effects of Fame. I ask everyone famous or with some degree of notoriety the same question. Sometimes you get an answer, sometimes you don't. I knew when I had cracked it open, there was a moment, this gun speech I gave about the Second Amendment at the Maryland Capitol, one nuclear, and I knew things were going to change. Was there a road to Damascus moment where you're performing, you're doing comedy, you're or whatever, and you're thinking to yourself, wow, I made it. Do you hear yourself on the radio? Do you see a billboard? And you're like, Gosh, everything's going to be different now.I support West Ham United Football Club, and I've been going there most of my life with my dad when I was a kid, with my mates when I was a little older, sometimes even on my own. And then one day in 2006, I went, and I guess I've been on a really popular talk show in my country. Everyone recognized me. What are you fucking doing here? How come you're coming in now? I've never seen you here before.That's good accent. Yeah, definitely. He's not Jordan Peterson Canadian. He's done all different-Jorgan Peterson on spot on.various UK dialects.Well, Dan, I don't know if you know, but I used to be an accent rather than go. I'm good at it. People saw that.Man, I can't make an accent for shit. You're pretty good. You flip in and out like that. You did the Jordan Peters. It's not like he was in the room. It's like, holy shit, that's good.Thanks.Yeah, the football gave us- Then they made me sing a chant like a famous way.I thought, Oh, God, it's changed. This has changed now. Everything is different. There have been lovely moments like that that was actually quite beautiful, a moment where it felt like achievement and excitement when I didn't think of fame as something solely toxic, corrupt, and divisive, but something that's a celebration of performance or showing off or creativity or something. Probably that moment.I want to thank you for a couple of things. I want to thank you first for advocating for free speech with Rumbel. We don't have to agree on everything. That's the point of free speech. You tell me where you stand, I tell you where I stand. Maybe we meet in the middle, maybe we don't. Secondly, Your advocacy for faith in Jesus Christ, it matters a lot to me. It matters a world to Avita. We run into each other in church sometimes, and the world is empty without it, man. The world is empty without it. I mean, there's only so many private jets and cars. You can only drive one One dollar at a time. You can only spend one dollar at a time. You can only get on one fancy computer at a time.You can't take any of it with you.But there's an endless amount of love for Jesus. No. You know what? She's right. None of that is getting buried with you ever. Thank you, my friend, for spending the time. Really appreciate it. Folks, thanks so much for tuning in. So much. I really deeply appreciate it. I'll be at the RNC tonight watching the speech. We'll also be recording some content for tomorrow. Thanks again. See you back on Rumble. Download the Rumble app and join us on your desktop, rumble. Com/bungeto. Take care. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.

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insight to get there. So yes, it was intoxicating. It was bewildering. I'm very glad I've had the experience because I suppose now as a father, these are things that I can offer to my children. Lord alone knows whether or not they'll listen, but I can tell them about the reality of drugs. I can tell them about the reality of fame, of money, and the necessity for a spiritual life, the importance of having a purpose. But even as I'm saying this, I'm thinking, they're not listening to me now. Now, and they're six and seven, and they're already swearing at me and kicking my ass at regular intervals and behaving how they want to. So hopefully, I'll be able to deliver some of these lessons.

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I have to ask you about kids in Hollywood because you said it's intoxicating and it was corrupt, and you were an adult. And there are so many kids who go into this industry, they get chewed up and spit out. I mean, it's just awful. There was a documentary about kids who were on Nickelodeon that came out on HBO, and there was sexual abuse, and none of them became realized adults because it was so stunting. Do you think that kids should even be in Hollywood as a father?

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Could it be allowed? I don't know that I would do it. I feel like kids maybe enjoy showing off, but I did a couple of movies that had kids in them, and I felt like, this don't seem right somehow. I don't mean in any nefarious way. In particular, I can remember a movie I did with Adam Sandler, and that guy's a straight-up beautiful dude. I love him.

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And he ran his sexy- Is that Bedtime Stories? Yeah, exactly. Loved that movie.

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So the kids in that. There was just weird stuff of the kids have... The kids can only work a certain number of hours a day, so the kids have doubles. So there were some kids that are the stars, and then there were kids that double for them. And the kids that are the stars get treated real nice. But the kids that are just the doubles are like, Now you get in there. That's weird. It was like those kids. Then one time, they had a little person, a small person, whatever you call them, like a dwarf, I guess, doing it. That was a crazy day because I didn't know that it was really turned around. I was surprised. It was a weird little world inside there. Also the idea of monetizing childhood. I don't know. The show business has always had traditions of doing that stuff. But when you learn, as I'm aware of that Nickelodeon documentary, that there's an institutionalized exploitation that seems extremely common, and we're all talking about it in various ways, the use of trafficking, exploitation. Yeah, there's just some things going on there. Me, I don't think I want my children anywhere near that.

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I don't put them on social media or nothing like that just because of the experiences I've had with famous celebrity and because I know how famous celebrity can turn. It's amazing whenever I'm thinking you're wonderful, but what about if they just change their mind? What if you say something they don't like? Then you're ready for a different go on a carousel.

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Russell, exit question. You've been generous with your time. Folks, you can find his show, by the way, on Rumbel. Russell Brand has his own show. It is phenomenal. Just put his name in the search bar, give him a follow. Click that green button. We really appreciate him on Rumbel. He's a huge advocate for free speech. Lighter question on the way out. We've been talking politics, Christianity, serious topics, polluting effects of Fame. I ask everyone famous or with some degree of notoriety the same question. Sometimes you get an answer, sometimes you don't. I knew when I had cracked it open, there was a moment, this gun speech I gave about the Second Amendment at the Maryland Capitol, one nuclear, and I knew things were going to change. Was there a road to Damascus moment where you're performing, you're doing comedy, you're or whatever, and you're thinking to yourself, wow, I made it. Do you hear yourself on the radio? Do you see a billboard? And you're like, Gosh, everything's going to be different now.

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I support West Ham United Football Club, and I've been going there most of my life with my dad when I was a kid, with my mates when I was a little older, sometimes even on my own. And then one day in 2006, I went, and I guess I've been on a really popular talk show in my country. Everyone recognized me. What are you fucking doing here? How come you're coming in now? I've never seen you here before.

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That's good accent. Yeah, definitely. He's not Jordan Peterson Canadian. He's done all different-Jorgan Peterson on spot on.various UK dialects.

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Well, Dan, I don't know if you know, but I used to be an accent rather than go. I'm good at it. People saw that.

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Man, I can't make an accent for shit. You're pretty good. You flip in and out like that. You did the Jordan Peters. It's not like he was in the room. It's like, holy shit, that's good.

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Thanks.

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Yeah, the football gave us- Then they made me sing a chant like a famous way.

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I thought, Oh, God, it's changed. This has changed now. Everything is different. There have been lovely moments like that that was actually quite beautiful, a moment where it felt like achievement and excitement when I didn't think of fame as something solely toxic, corrupt, and divisive, but something that's a celebration of performance or showing off or creativity or something. Probably that moment.

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I want to thank you for a couple of things. I want to thank you first for advocating for free speech with Rumbel. We don't have to agree on everything. That's the point of free speech. You tell me where you stand, I tell you where I stand. Maybe we meet in the middle, maybe we don't. Secondly, Your advocacy for faith in Jesus Christ, it matters a lot to me. It matters a world to Avita. We run into each other in church sometimes, and the world is empty without it, man. The world is empty without it. I mean, there's only so many private jets and cars. You can only drive one One dollar at a time. You can only spend one dollar at a time. You can only get on one fancy computer at a time.

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You can't take any of it with you.

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But there's an endless amount of love for Jesus. No. You know what? She's right. None of that is getting buried with you ever. Thank you, my friend, for spending the time. Really appreciate it. Folks, thanks so much for tuning in. So much. I really deeply appreciate it. I'll be at the RNC tonight watching the speech. We'll also be recording some content for tomorrow. Thanks again. See you back on Rumble. Download the Rumble app and join us on your desktop, rumble. Com/bungeto. Take care. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.