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This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stugats podcast.

Hey, Dan. It's me, Lucy. I'm here in Iowa. I'm going to repeat that for you one more time. I'm Lucy. Iowa is a place. My name is not Iowa. My name is Lucy. It's okay. I I only worked there seven months. Takes a long time to remember my name. But I am here for round one of the women's in the LA tournament. I was sold out game.

It was so loud.

We played amazing. Not we. I'm an unbiased journalist. I will play amazing. Excuse me.

Yeah, I worked really hard, and I did a ton of stuff here at this game.

I did all the things, really. I'm sitting and I keep thinking of all the things I've done, and I'm so overwhelmed by it that I can't remember any I'm getting so many likes on this tweet. I'm going to create two... Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know me working hard was funny and good content. Dan, I'm working very hard. You said get younger and smarter. We haven't pulled off yet, but younger we have. We will be back Monday. We're going to the second round, Iowa against the winner of Princeton, West Virginia, and I will have way more content for you there, even though I worked really hard today and I did so much. This is all brought to you by GameTime. Download the GameTime app, use code Lucy, get $20 off your first order. Terms apply. What a deal. Also, Dallas Clarke, right over there. Right over there. Tied in you. Right over there. Don't film him. Don't film him. That's weird. Don't film him. That's weird. Rose, behave. Lucy Rodine, Iowa Correspondent.

Flimsy. That report was flimsy and feels a bit like she's stealing Metalark money. That was not a report. What is that? I didn't feel like I got... That's the biggest star story going in sports right now.

She got Dallas Clarke.

Yeah, she mentioned Caitlin.

The wrong Clarke. That's not what she was there for.

Am I the only one that wants America to sweat tonight? Because I don't want Iowa to lose yet because I like the Caitlin Clarke story. But everyone's in on this. Everyone's talking about the game tonight, and I want America to sweat. They're a, I believe, 60 and a half point favorite tonight, so it's not expected to be close. I want them to fall behind early, and I want America to be scared that we might lose Kaitlyn Clarke early in the tournament.

I got high hopes for tonight's women's tournament because that's also chalky, historically is. Everyone Everyone got really excited because Middle Tennessee State for a second there was up on LSU, and then the second everyone started circulating the score, there was like 20 unanswered points from Kim Mulky and LSU. But I think there's some really big, juicy spreads in this sport, Dan, that I don't know. I like Syracuse. Anderson Verjao's daughter plays for them if you want to feel really I'm sold. Yeah, they're playing a down-Ucon team. 19 and a half. That's a lot of reputation right there. I'm taking the orange.

Chris Cody was mentioning, he's not quite confident enough to root for Kaitlyn Clarke to lose.

I didn't say that. A hundred % did not say that.

You were scared to, but you want her to struggle and show us something at the end tonight.

I was thinking this weekend, and once I tell you, you're not going to think this is helpful at all. I was thinking this weekend, Man, it'd be really funny if Kaitlyn Clarke lost in the first round. And then moments later, I go, You know what? I think I want to see her win it all. So I think in terms of Kaitlyn Clarke. I'm fine with her either winning or losing.

She is getting some guff for saying that more people are interested in the women's tournament than the men's tournament. Number one, you have to consider the source. She has an assigned Kaitlyn Clarke reporter. I imagine to her this all feels like a circus and that the women's tournament feels outrageous. But it's also not super important for you to go on the Instagram comments and say, No, it isn't.

Oh, but just for the record, the final four tickets that have sold for the women have sold at six times the rate as the men because they've got the star power, they've got the story lines, they've got the dramatic rivalries. Let's hear from her in her own words, the thing that got them mad. But you will understand that around some of this stuff, you're going to get the same stuff that you get in politics where her comment section is just going to fill up with garbage the moment that women start saying, never mind equality, Oh, We're more interesting than the men. It's not even equal. We've surpassed the men. But she ain't wrong.

I don't know. There's been a lot of little moments, I think.

I think just the crowds at our games, but also just the people screaming and wanting our autographs.

People just scream my name constantly. I think that's something that really never gets old or something you never take for granted.

I think even when you're out and about doing your own things, living your personal life, the people that come up to you and really support your team and understand the game, I think that's the coolest thing.

But I think also just in general, the excitement around this tournament, it's super cool. People are more excited about the women's side than men's side.

I think that's obviously something that's really never been the case before.

It's cool to see how it's evolved. When I first started this when I was a freshman, we couldn't even use the March Madness brand in and now to see this.

And really, it's just taking a whole another level.

And I expect it to continue to grow this year.

I think that's the coolest thing for myself.

What's wrong about anything she said?

Nothing. I'm speaking only for myself. I am more interested in the women's tournament this year. I think part of it is that I don't have a local team to get behind, so I've adopted a team, and it's been Kaitlyn Clarke. I'm just very interested. The only game I've watched this year was the last game. I think it was against Holy Cross. I watched three, four of that. Just proudly stating your ignorance.

All right, so there it is. I'm more interested in the women than I am in anything. I've watched three quarters of one game.

To be fair, he isn't articulating how How disinterested he is in the men. That's more time that he's devoted to the women than he is to the men.

Listen, it's because it's early in the tournament now. I'm not an ardent college basketball fan. I begin to get interested right Now, like in sweet 16 range, really don't care about the first round games, to be honest with you.

In terms of ticket prices also, in fairness, it should be stated, one's being played at a capacity of 19,000, the other is a football stadium. There's different quantities of tickets available. Not to say that the women's tournament is not more popular or better this year. That explains some of the ticket prices.

Well, thank you for mentioning in general ticket prices, because I wanted to ask you guys something about last night that floored me, but maybe shouldn't have. I had a friend who went to go see Drake in Sunrise and was saying that the tickets cost $600, and they were just regular tickets. It's not like they were getting good tickets. They were just getting regular tickets. I was trying to think if I've ever paid that much for a ticket that wasn't a plain ticket. I was trying to think of what I would pay that much for just regular tickets. I think if Prince and Michael Jackson returned from the dead for a one-night only show, I would take just $600 tickets anywhere in the place for that show. Then I would take all your questions afterward about how I could possibly support Michael Jackson in that incarnation. But again, it's a ridiculous hypothetical, and it's not going to happen, so you don't have to worry about it. I'm sharing my secret inner thoughts on something. But I can't imagine paying $600 for just a ticket. Any of you are surprised by that ticket price? Can you help me understand what I'm getting at the Drake concert?

Is this the Taylor Swift effect? No.

Because I feel like all ticket prices at concerts are crazy right now.

They are crazy, but what you're seeing with Drake, it may not just be a habit that he posts broadly about on social media. It's also that he certainly has a catalog that would certainly justify one of these big outdoor stadium venues. But him going into a smaller, more intimate arena, you pay a premium for that experience. And the stage production for that show was really impressive.

There was a giant bra on the stage at one point, and he was making a societal thing. It was a weird time to get serious with the audience.

With a giant bra.

He was just talking about perspective and you got goals in life.

And it was a really nice message. And he was a large bra had just lowered from the ceiling.

He got these crazy laser projectors that cost well into the millions of dollars, and he only activates them for two songs, but they take up loads of space. It's really the inflatables that he has flying around the arena. It is a really cool stage.

Travis Scott head for sicko mode of just say he was shooting lasers out of his eyes.

You guys are saying $600?

It was great.

I went on Saturday night.

You got a better show than I did because you had Lil Wayne open. I had 21 Savage. They're both good, but I prefer the Lil Wayne catalog.

It was more, Drake started, and then Lil Wayne came out and did his thing, and then they did songs together. It was a great show.

My wife and I next month are going to the Hollywood Bowl in LA to see the Jimmy Buffet Tribute concert, which is led by Paul McCartney and the Eagles.

That was more than 600, I bet.

So jealous.

That left 600 behind in the dust. Now, granted, my wife goes aftermarket. She buys the best seats. But 600 for a And the top-end concert right now is almost inexpensive. That's how crazy the price is.

What a venue. Have you ever been in that venue? I have not.

I'm looking forward to it. Oh my gosh.

It's pure hell trying to leave.

That's what I've heard. There's a shuttle where you can drive, pick up a shuttle, like two, three miles from the stadium, and then it takes you back there. I think that's what we're going to do.

There's also a space shuttle for 20 grand.

We could do that, too. I could borrow a Levatard's helicopter, maybe. I don't know. We haven't decided yet.

The lineup for this tribute concert is pretty insane, and It's not just musicians. Like, oh, Kenny Chesley is such a perfect fit for this. Sheryl Crow, Zack Brown, Eric Church, Brandee Carlyle, Jon Bonjovi.

Wow. Yeah. Pitbull, oddly enough. Yeah, he's perfect, though. Aaron Rodgers is playing.

What? The Heehaw 3 are opening, so that should be quite ridiculous.

Do you guys have another gig lined up? What's the future of the Heehaw 3? We left Vegas and there was these big aspirations, and I feel like things are-Paul tried to get them, but they couldn't agree on a number.

We turned down, and this is God's truth, it's ridiculous as it sounds, we turned down a St. Patrick's Day gig on the North-South Carolina border. What? Yeah, no, we did.

Because it would have been at a bar. The He-Haw 3 can't have their first concert be where a place-It's south of the border. Is that where it was? It needs to be show fans.

It was right on the north and South Carolina border. Well said. Yeah, that thing.

Why did you turn it down?

We decided that the timing wasn't right.

Did you think you were above a venue?

No, but as we develop as a band, we have to have just the right- You've been around for 50 years. Well, that's true. You're right. I got to remember the best.

You just got to remember what's canon.

Right. I know. God bless Merrill Waxman, our original guitarist.

Oh, my God.

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Don Lebatard. He, for some reason, would do a Gary Stevens impersonation of the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins and the University of Miami. Go ahead. Do you want to do that for the people? Your Gary Stevens impersonation? You want to give people some of that 30 years in the making? Stugatz.

What?

Who needs me? Oh, that? What?

You've done my whole life.

You're going to go to Buffalo and win with Bernie Pomily? Who needs me?

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

What are you smirking about?

Mike's limited fake Tom Broke. Amuse me.

Yeah, What did you hear Tom Broke out complaining about? That for some reason an adapter broke off. He was calling engineering-Tragedy struck the ulcer studio.

One quarter-inch adapter broke off.

That's who's. I want to get to something from Curb your enthusiasm. I know Greg Cody is a big fan. This last season has somehow met expectations. I thought it was going to age poorly when I saw some of the previews and how old everybody looked, but it has been great so far. And you reminded me when you were saying of Heehaw 3, What are you, too good for something? You reminded me of a scene from the last Curb your enthusiasm, not the last one, the one before last, where he didn't want to be on a group text chain with an assortment of people who were warning something. Now, this is funnier visually when he does some of these things visually with the emojis, but it's funny in general when he runs into somebody who is on a text chain that he doesn't want to be on.

Larry. Yeah. Whalen Grossbard. Do I know you? I'm Steus' cousin from the family text chain. Oh, yeah, the text chain. Yeah, we love that you're on there. I noticed you haven't really been very active on it, barely replying at all, actually. Yeah. Well, we're noticing it's really been helpful for everybody keeping us in the loop and positive spirits. Is it helpful? Yeah. You think so? I don't know if you saw, my niece sent a great photo of stew and her by the lake. Yeah, that was really cute.Cute?Yeah. You think you're too good for the chain? You know what? Whalen, is that your name? Yeah. I do. I think I'm too good for the chain. Oh, sorry, you don't want to help your friend. Help? It takes minimal effort just to reply, even a ha-ha or a thumbs up. Oh, really? Are there funny things on there that require a ha ha? If you read through it, there's a lot of-Can I be honest with you? Please. I'm overwhelmed by this chain.

Every two minutes, it's ding.

I'm getting a ding. I'm getting a ding. Too many dings. And what is it? It's just these ridiculous inspirational sentiments that amount to nothing, that all trite. I don't even know why people bother to write them.

It's been a really hard time for the family.

You want me to give it a ha ha, a ha ha? Or a heart. That's also an option, but it seems like that's too much for you. You know it's too much for me? This chain is too much for me. I want off this chain. Once you're off the chain, you can't get back on the chain. Don't say that, really. I would text this to you, but I know you won't read it. So here's the real-life emoji. There you go. I'll give that a ha ha. No, Ha ha to you. Ha ha to you, sir. You're a real asshole. Oh, I'm an asshole? Yeah. Oh, I'm an asshole. I'm the one writing, I'm the one writing, tough times remind us that our spirits are strong. Yeah, I wrote that. I know you did. Well, hearted if you like it. Yeah. Oh, is that an emoji? That's a nice smiley face. Oh, the praise hands. So you know the emojis, you just won't use them. Oh, nice. A thumbs up. Well, ha ha to you, sir. Ha ha to you. Yeah, thank you. I should have probably said at the beginning of that that the text string was about somebody who had fallen into a coma.

It's inappropriate to be arguing about That stuff. But Chris, I will tell you, and certainly, Arlene, your mother has noticed this, your father has so much of Larry David asshole in him, where he will take these principled stands on just total nonsense, on stuff that doesn't matter, and stubbornly entrench himself. Surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing that she married Larry David.

I do, yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion. To my credit, my personality- In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit. To my credit. It's amazing. My personality does predate Curve your Enthusiasm. Oh, wow. I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself after me.

You All right, put it on the poll, please, Jude. You did Greg Cody, Copyright Asshole, long before. It's Copyright Being an Asshole, long before Larry David. I wanted to get caught up here with your son and Billy. What happened with Ultra and what happened with the baseball game that you guys were, the spring training Marlins game that you guys were going to announce this week. And I saw flooding all over South Florida, flooding in places that you normally don't see flooding. I saw that Ultra, I couldn't help but notice this, spring break closed down, but A bunch of kids in Ultra all drugged out in the mud and rain here. I don't think it would have looked quite that charming if they'd been a bunch of black kids, but that's just woke me talking, of course. How did the weekend go for Billy and Chris with the baseball game and with Ultra? We were supposed to get some correspondence work from Chris, Man on the Street interviews at Ultra.

I did not do that because it was flooded on Friday and Saturday, and I couldn't go Sunday. The only day that it was the weather would have let us do it, I couldn't do it.

Wires and rain don't seem great. Those drugs don't seem to work unless there's music or work most effectively.

The drugs work.

Work more effectively when there's music.

You could say the music maybe won't work without the drugs.

I think I could say both. I think I could say the music doesn't work as well without the drugs, and the drugs don't work as well without the music. I think I could say both of those things. But it was a calamity.

Baseball also didn't work with the weather, I would say. That's why that didn't happen.

Well, the baseball doesn't work without the drugs, for sure.

That's right. Worked less well after the drugs. So you guys went or did you not even go? The game got canceled before you even got there.

We were made aware early on that the game was canceled, so we did not trek up to Jupiter. But we have had discussions and we're told maybe we could do a couple of innings during the regular season, which a couple of innings. The arrangement. Full game is what we're talking about. Talk to my agent. We're going to see because here around the office, people were coming up with Well, why don't you guys pitch this instead? To which I'm like, Well, this isn't really a negotiation. This isn't like we're going to tell them what we want to do, and then we negotiate back and forth. We're just grateful for the opportunity to take part in this funness of calling a baseball game for the audience. Pitches here included, you guys should do a second screen watch-along thing for an entire game. And again, I said, This is not what's been offered to us. They said, Maybe we can do a couple of innings during the regular season. So maybe we'll go. We'll have our people talk to There are people. To be continued, we'll let you guys know when we have an update on when we may or may not do one of these games.

How many innings would you do spring training? You would do-We were going to do the whole game. Have you done that before?

Yeah, we've done the whole game two times now. We've done it twice. This would have been three. This would have been our third, yeah.

Okay, I thought they always brought you guys in for a couple of innings. Oh, no.

We ran out of material in a couple of innings, but we did the whole game. We prepared for about three innings, and then there was the other six that we had to figure out. Man, around the seventh inning, you start, Man, this is a lot. And Then it's spring training and it's like, Who is this guy? Whose parent does this person know? You know what I mean?

Jeff Konan, usually.

I've learned that who is this guy doesn't kill on the broadcast. No, that's always bad form when you say who is this guy. Broadcaster. You guys are surprised. Kyle doesn't That's what I wanted to do with that one.

Your general lack of knowledge in preparation and research might not be seen as professional in the industry.

I bought a shirt for this one, too. I was ready to go. I was taking some notes. Oh, yeah, I got a shirt. Well, it was gifted to me. But as soon as I was-A collared shirt? Yeah.of course, it's a professional thing. Long sleeve shirt? Well, no. A polo? It's spring training. Come on.

You do polos in spring training?

Polos and sometimes some golf shorts, if weather dictates.

You got to wear a beige jacket like Vin Scully.

As soon as I got this shirt, I said, This is my spring training shirt. The person who gave it to me said, This is yours for spring training this year, which was a bit presumptuous because they hadn't even asked us to do it at that point. But we were hoping that it would happen. The weather didn't agree with us this season, but that's okay. Because starting on, what day is it? Thursday. We start 162, Dano. And guess what? I registered for my season pass of Bally Sports Plus, the app. And good news, with that subscription, I also get the end of the Panthers season. A bit pricey, but they had a discount, so I went and I got that. And if I'm going to be completely forthright here, I was keeping an eye on what was going on with Amazon because I was hoping to get it for free. You know what I mean? Not to say that I want anything bad to happen there, but if I could avoid having to pay for a full season worth of things, that's what I'm going to do. But as a result, now I have the Panthers for the rest of the season.

Lord Stanley's coming. Hop on.

You get to see a 50 goal score. Can't wait. The second 50 goal score to ever wear that sweater. Five o'clock start.

We have a chance to get 60. We have a chance to get 60. Weird time. Five o'clock start yesterday. I don't like that one.

By the way, you know how sometimes, especially in college football, now, if you look at the University of Miami's leading receiver, they've had a lot of great receivers there, but it's like Mike Harley and Hank and Restrepo is probably going to be atop it, because especially now, the COVID year is warping all these things. Pavel Burre, he had 58 and 59 in back-to-back years. He played in an era, if you remember how He scored his goals. He's the fastest player in the league. A lot of breakaways. Well, he played in an era where they tried to legislate out breakaways. They called two-line passes up until 2005. If he played in today's game, Pavel Burre would maybe have 70, 75 goals. To see him do that in that era and get close to 60, I'm so sad for Panthers fans that didn't have the privilege of watching Pavel Burre do his thing because Sam Reinhardt is having an incredible year by any standard. And compared to how you remember Pavel Burre bossing games without the two-line pass, it still pales in comparison.

Did Pavel Burre ever win playoff game. I know he went to the playoff, but I think- Yeah, he went to a Stanley Cup final.

He got- Lord Stanley. No, but as a Panthers. He got swept out by a devil's team that went to the Stanley Cup.

I don't think he won a playoff game. I think both times, I think that they got swept both times. Chris Co, did you have any sound for me of you and Billy making a botchery and a butchery of spring training?

Bases will be loaded here for Wilson Contreras, former National.

No, he was a cub for life.

Well, at least we have our viral clip. The second visit from Mel this evening.

How many people you think have turned their radio off? Whoa.

I think that there's radios being turned on all over America, even though you can only listen to this in South Florida. Wow.

Okay. Christopher, tell him you had a good home run call already, but it got rained What was it?

Oh, wow. That's a good question. Oh, really? Well, it's from The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody.

Christopher looks confused.

I don't remember what he's talking about.

Greg, no. He was trying to toss to you the fact that he has given you the idea for a home run call. You don't remember the idea for a home run call?

I was probably like, That thing, something. Okay, no. The home run call was, That swing, that thing. Oh, it's a good call. Thank you. Plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. You're not tailing it to a particular name. Correct. All that jazz. You don't got to do that. That would be a great call. A generic call.

All that jazz would fit, yeah.

Up, up, and away. That swing, that thing.

This is Inu, an unimproved Dan Levatard show with the Stugas. Gamble on by DraftKings. Dan Levatard. I feel like we need to normalize saying these scientific terms for organs on the air.

A penis? Yes.

You know what?

If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis.

Say it.

Stugatz.

That free kick hit him right in the cock-a-doodle-doo.

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

We have been rummaging around here, as we often do when Greg Cody is in, and he'll be in again tomorrow. We've been rummaging around in some old-age stuff, and I'm wondering, Greg, if you are old enough to remember in South Florida, something that was known as the Serpentarium. Do you know anything about the Serpentarium? Because I think you'd be the only one here old enough to know what that was.

I remember the word. I don't think I ever went to it, but it was... I think it was just for aquatic animals, as you'd gather from the name.

I don't think... No, wait a minute. No, it's serpent. It's not snakes.

Oh, that's right. Wait a minute.

You think I was saying the Miami Sequarium? Is that what you thought?

I think I did confuse that. The Serpentarium, I think McGill actually worked there very early in his career.

Did he?

Yeah, I believe he did. I think he was a snake handler.

Okay, I don't know when this closed.

He wrote a book with Ron, so I'll take his word for it.

Okay, but he just thought that a serpentarium was aquatic, though.

John Gruden related, maybe.

The serpentarium, I don't know when it closed, but I know the reason that it closed because I was horrified by it whenever in the '80s, I learned about it.

When it's a Cobra, Coach Alabama?

There was a giant serpent that was very hard to move that the day they tried to move it, like the statue, it broke apart into a million pieces. I think one of the local high schools that were the Cobras wanted it, and it just broke apart. But what I remember about that thing, there are only a couple of things. One, the guy who ran it, his blood was basically anti-venom because of the amount of times he'd been bitten. If somebody needed some medicine, this is the person that they would go to if they needed blood because his blood was pretty immune to snake bites. But also, I think it closed Because, this is horrible. A kid fell in. The reason that I was having this conversation with somebody the other day is because of how absurd that crocodile attack was in Roadhouse, because somebody fell in a serpentarium. A kid fell in a serpentarium who was throwing food and fell in, and the gator or the croc immediately rolled on him. I think that's what ended the serpentarium. But the reason I'm asking you is just because you would have been of an age when you were putting the Paul Radke's bowling scores in the Miami Hérald.

It would have been at about the time that you were a teenager, I'm assuming.

Yeah, I definitely remember the word serpentarium. It's in the back of my mind as a niche in South Florida weird history, along with the upside down house and what is now Sunrise. But I never went to it.

You disparaging this saltwater croc attack in 2024's roadhouse is really frustrating to me. First off, you didn't know that a saltwater croc could be in the saltwater, which it's in the name, babe. And that's exactly where a saltwater croc would attack you. That's why they hang out in those marinas, because people throw fish off of their boats. So typically, if something flies off a boat, it's dinner time for the saltwater crocodile. And that's exactly what happened in Roadhouse. They warned you. They said, Hey, that croc over there, he's hungry. Hadn't eaten in a while.

You didn't like that movie.

Yeah, I did. It's exactly what I was hoping for. Two and a half stars of popcorn fun.

So in 1977, a six-year-old boy fell into a crocodile pit at the Serpentarium and was killed by Cookie, a 12-foot long crocodile, and it closed in 1984. It still lasts. It's seven years after Cookie killed the child somehow.

I I don't mean to laugh.

Wait, Haas killed the croc the next day. So there was swift judgment on that.

Nine shots. No, he kept shooting him.

I believe it was Roy Scheider that did that.

1,600-pound reptile. He lived to be 100, and every week, I think, he injected himself with venom.

I will ask McGill about this person and this thing tomorrow, because I imagine that he will help us with some information here on all of the weirdnesses that South Florida attracts.

It was a cocktail of venom from five snakes that he injected himself with weekly.

We were all staring at each other quite a bit floored at the stupidity of this.

Also, the snake is, I believe, still on the roof or whatever outside of Miami South Miami senior high.

The last segment, we played back you guys broadcasting a Marlins game, and it reminded me that last evening, a shipping container adjacent member in Chris Whittingham was given the opportunity to call a ConcaCaf Nations League final. Usa, Mexico, a trophy on the line. Some people will work for their entire career in that field and never get that opportunity. Chris Wittingham had the opportunity to do so last night. Here is a signature. Guys, I don't know if you've seen this goal by Tyler Adams, who is working his way to health, playing for Jim Frivola's Bournemouth. Tyler Adams had this unbelievable goal, and Chris Wittingham met the moment.

That back line, McKinnie.

Adams. Lifehance. Here he goes for... Oh, oh, oh. That is absolutely sensational from Tyler Adams.

A banger, defending of a final. The US lead Mexico by a goal to death.

While that was playing, I asked a crestfallen Chris Cody to please play for me again. His spring training, Wilson Contreras call.

Bases will be loaded here for Wilson Contreras, former National.

Nope, he was a cub for life. Same league.

That's good.

Both Mike Ryan and Greg Cody are done with Berhalter, both of you? Are both of you done, totally done with Berhalter?

Well, first of all, if you want more of Chris Wittingham, Witty happens to be a guest on the Greg Cody Show podcast that just dropped today. Huge get. Fancier than ever. I let him have it about the Panthers. He's a beautiful thing. It's a great interview. Thank you. Fun conversation. I'm not done with Greg Berhalter. It's too early to be done with him. But to me, the standard for US soccer right now, there's an opening. I'll be curious if Mike agrees with me. The women's team has dominated the headlines for two decades or more. There's an opening now with the evolution in the women's team, a new coach. It's time for the US men to take over the mantle of American soccer from the women. Not that both can't have it, but it's time for the men to step up and actually do something in the World Cup, particularly a US World Cup.

I agree, and I have my doubts as to Greg Berhalter being the guy for it. However, he can point to a hardware case and have a lot of trophies. Now, granted, the Concacaf Nation League is a brand new competition. The US Men's National Team has won all three incarnations of it, but his record against Mexico is very good. What I really liked about this broadcast, and by the way, I loved Chris Whittingham so much that I sat through a pretty terrible stream. Yes, people. I swear. You were all probably wondering, Is it just me? No, the stream was bad, and the streams on Paramount Plus have consistently been bad. And if we're going to take this seriously, as your broadcast suggests, it would be, can we please fix these stream issues? Because I was that close to switching to. But I wanted to support my friend Chris Winningham, who was brilliant on the call.

It was standard definition.

It was so bad.

It was blurry. I was mad at my wife.

I'm like, What is wrong with our Internet?

Yeah, you unplug your router. You at home, you weren't going crazy. It was a bad stream. It was unforgivable. They do this often over there. Knock it off.

We had audio problems. Our audience is saying the same thing about us.

But Greg Berhalter is absolutely bullying a Mexican team that he should bully because they are that much more talented than Mexico. It's not something that I've been able to say during my adult life, but one of the best parts of this broadcast about Paramount+ is the fact that Jesse Marsh is on the broadcast, and Greg Berhalter does not like Jesse Marsh. Jesse Marsh went for the job that Greg Berhalter presently has. Remember, Berhalter's contract expired.

In fairness, yeah, you say that Mike and Greg are out on Berhalter. So is the United States of America.

And then they weren't. And then they brought them back. But then he ends up winning this job search. And by the way, Gio Reina was spectacular for the US men's national team, and he was at the heart of all the problems his last go-around. So Greg Berhalter starts press conferences is now going at criticisms from Jesse Marsh. And Jesse Marsh is so quick to undercut any success that Greg Berhalter's had. Yeah, no, they did exactly what they were supposed to do, because what I saw was a huge talent discrepancy. So much as even taking credit for some of the halftime adjustments. See? Geo starts playing the way that I suggested at halftime, and all of a sudden, Greg Berhalter is lifting a trophy over his head. Keep an eye on that dynamic, because I assure you it's caused problems.

I just didn't like Berhalter making such a big deal of winning a third straight tournament that really doesn't mean much. It means much if you don't win it.

What will mean a lot is Copa America this summer. Testing your medal against South American teams, because I am of the belief, and I've said it several times of microphones. I don't trust Greg Berhalter. I don't like how he manages a locker room because that was ugly as all hell. I don't like his tactics. I don't think it's the best way to go about winning these tournaments. And he has every right to tell me to go bleep myself and point to three trophies that came at Mexico's expense in his trophy room. It's fair enough. There's several ways to do this. I'm just more inclined to change the tactic some because I don't believe this guy to be a winner despite the record.

But it's not even that for you. It's that his replacement is available. And excites you.

Jose Mourinho is out there. He is out there. I'm a Jose Mourinho fan because I was a Chelsea fan. I'm also a Roma fan, and he had some success over there. He wears people out. But I think Greg Berhalter, despite that ugly locker room situation, he had the support of the players. I think that's because he coddles the players. I don't think that's the type of mentality that we need headed into the World Cup. I think that we need someone to hold players accountable. You could argue We try to hold geo accountable, but it got messy, and it didn't feel like real leadership. Jose Mourinho has got a proud record in single-game elimination samples. And what this nation has always done well is counter-attack. That is where they had their best results. That's where they became giant killers because they had the athleticism to put a stranglehold on someone and hit a long ball to someone striking deep, and boom, you lose 1-0 to the US. And I think they need to get back to that identity to win.

How do you think Mourinho would handle and manage Reina? Because you could make a pretty good argument that Reina is a clubhouse cancer type, and that unless he's really good, he's somebody you don't want on your team.

Reina doesn't get talked about. But if Reina is healthy, Reina from an attacking sense, he's a pretty complete player, is as talented as any player that we've put out there. However, Reina struggled with fitness. He recently made a move to the Premier League and can't get any time for Nottnum Forest. So I don't really know what it is with geo Reina, but when he was given the opportunity in this tournament, they succeeded and he flourished. However, let's not forget the Jamaica game, where they needed an own goal late to advance to a final, where everyone was pulling their hair out because of the performance they came up against a Jamaican team that was missing six of its best players. I am not sold on Greg Berhalter. I think his doubters are Legion. And if he doesn't have a good showing in Copa America, I think you have to make a change headed into a World Cup.

You have to just because Moreno has a better quote.

You were given a yellow card. What happened when you went over to the Southampton bench? I deserve the yellow card because I was rude, but I was rude with an idiot. But I clearly deserve the red card. I was rude.

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