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Draftkings Network. This is the Dan Leviton Show with the Stugartz Podcast. Juju is outside cooking up his Thursday Thunder. He will storm in here. We're always, for some reason, we're very disorganized. It's a company of creatives. We're always up against it. We're never on time. Things are always moving too fast. Juju will be here in moments with a desperate and surgically planted Thursday Thunder. As soon as he finishes it, he's not ready to do it right now, and we're up against the deadline. That will be at the end of the second... It is Thursday. I understand. Yes, it's Thursday. That thunder, thunder in general, is a warning. I'm warning you right now that in about eight or nine minutes, JuJu will come running in here and save the day. But before I do that, the pandemic and all the things happening in the world and in the country. I would imagine anxiety, plenty everywhere, mental health issues everywhere all over our country and world. Draymond Green has now been suspended indefinitely. And the part of that story that was most interesting to me is the League is now going to get him help and counseling.

Draymond is pretty introspective. He sold his introspections to Prime, a documentary where he's talking about the doing of therapy. Now, help and counseling, I mean, what do you imagine that looks like? I don't know if there's some mental health crisis going on with Draymond Green. I mean, the suspensions seem to be something that happened to him a great deal because he can't control his anger. But his anger has been used as a tool for everything good that he's gotten in basketball. He funnels and channels all of that stuff pretty well. Cost them a championship, his anger and he didn't learn whatever needed to be learned. Cost them a championship, his inability to control the way that he plays basketball. So when he's getting help and counseling, do you think he's doing so with defiance? Do you think he's doing so, Hey, I need help here. Do you think this is something he's doing willingly, or is this the league trying to control optics? I think.

This is a situation where the league... I don't think anybody really knows what to do at this point because I think that it's gotten to such a point with Draymond where he is clearly punishment. We talked about this on Anball every weekday, but Mondays, about how nothing has made him realize, Oh, I shouldn't do this. Even his apology, his quote, apology to use of Nerkic, the other night was like, I normally don't apologize, but this time I didn't actually mean to do it, so I guess I will apologize. It was a weird thing to say, and I think.

That-what happened there, Chris?

They're just playing a B-roll clip, and there was a little audio there over it. It was labeled B-roll, so we thought there would be.

No sound. Thursday, Thunder.

That's.

A-roll. Say what you were saying then again, Charlotte. Thank you, Video.

I thought I acted quickly there. I got that thing off quick.

Yeah, you did an amazing job, Chris. No, clearly nothing's gotten through to him, and he….

Okay, let me just be clear here. We are now celebrating that Chris did his job well by stopping Charlotte midthought with the sound that we left the pot open.

I'm sure that. I hit it down. The sound came on and I was like, That shouldn't be here. Get out of here. Charlotte's talking right now.

Great.

Job.

Roy gave him a very formal handshake.

This is the metal arcway here of congratulations. You only let a little incompetence leak out on him. Not all of it. Not all of it. There you go.

Take that victory laugh, Chris. There you go.

Just about 40%.

Big day for you, Chris.

Do you know how easy it is to distract Charlotte?

Is everyone- Yeah.

Again, I'm distracted.

You were saying. I don't know. You tell.

Me, Dan.

I mean, your thoughts on, is he going in defiantly? Because I don't know how well therapy works if it is forced upon you.

You have him kicking and screaming, going into therapy? You're going to.

Therapy.

Because you want therapy.

Or.

If you have to save your job and salary because it's part of what your indefinite suspension is going to get it reduced.

I think maybe it starts that way, but eventually you sit down and you say, You know what? This is productive. If I just open my mouth and brace this and talk, it's productive.

You know, what came to mind was John Mellini'salways stand up, where he talks about the intervention happening, where he doesn't know why he's coming. Then when he walks in the room, he's like, Oh, you guys are doing this to me? I think it's a little bit of that with Draymond. We talked about that on oddball, just the idea that it's like Charlotte said, every one of these incidents, he's got an answer, he's got an excuse. At some point, the world sees it, but he doesn't. He's going to have to have that moment where he realizes, Oh, I do have a problem. Is it a big problem? Is it a small problem? Is it fixable? Is it not? That's beyond the fact. It starts with understanding. I've got a problem because these aren't isolated incidents. As we talked about, he's been suspended six times. Four of them have been in the last nine months. Four of them in the last nine months.

I believe it would be pretty hard to convince a defiant man who is often rewarded for being contrarian, for always fighting others, for leaning into, I always have to fight you as part of his identity, rewarded at every turn with not just winning, but with podcasts and with platforms as he starts a media career. I think this is a really difficult person to convince he needs help, to admit that he needs help. I'm not sure he agrees with that.

Well, no, I don't think he does. But I feel like a lot of it could come from his teammates. I feel like Steph and Clay, they have a bond that's about as deep as you can get as teammates. And I feel like so much of their success as a team has been Steph being like, No, Draymond's our backbone, Draymond's our soul. And maybe those guys are the guys who can get through to him and say, I know that we've praised you for this. I know that this has been what has gotten us the championships, but at this point, it's gone past the point of being helpful, and I think we got to reel it back in.

The term grow up is being used a lot with Draymond Green. Growing up is hard, man. It really is. It's super hard because the things that he is, the things that he does, the value he has for that team, it's emotion. It's getting in someone's face. It's occasionally getting kicked out of games. People are asking him to change what it is he's done his entire life, his entire career. Growing up is really, really hard. All of a sudden, you watch Raymond Green to turn that off and not be that guy? That's difficult. He starts to wonder, Will the guys like me as much as they used to? Do I still have the same value? That stuff is difficult, man.

I would say if you identify as anything, as part of your personal identity, and I would think that defiance is something that he thinks as a positive, a fuel, and now he's being told, No, not so much. We need you to alter that. Just don't get suspended. But the thing that becomes harder there to control Stugatz is throw in losing frustration and now aging. He got his money when he punched his teammate in the face. He survived all of that. The team chose him and that. Jordan Poole, get out of here. You're not that. You got your money, and now none of us trust you to actually behave like a champion. Go play for the Wizards. We're going to keep the champion. But also, I mean, aging. Aging is in here, too. The job that he does, the way that he does it is going to be harder as he physically ages because being more physical than anyone else when you're undersized and playing defense the way that he does, he has to be rapid. The defense he plays, I mean, you're always talking about effort on defense. His defense, he is almost an unprecedented defensive player, but he can't be that into his late 30s.

That body is not going to be able to do all of those things already. He's passed his prime, indisputably, correct?

I would say he's passed his prime. He's not as good as he was earlier, but I think he's still excellent. But I think to your point, part of that excellence requires a dose of that crazy that sometimes makes you cross the line and.

Put somebody in the face. But the game can't back it up anymore, maybe. That's hard to deal with mentally.

Ii mean- Look, I think he's still an excellent defensive player. I think the energy and the mindset required to be that as an undersized guy is hard and requires someone who's almost crazy. We're asking the raging fire to just not burn down this building over here, but burn down everything else around it. You're asking for precision surgical tactics with something that's blunt.

It's not just that you're asking, though. It's people like me and Adam Silver, okay? People who look like me and Adam Silver or whatever critics look like, okay? It's not just that that's the request who got it. The other bonus request is we, as people, me. I'm going to speak personally for me.

Not for Adam Silver?

Just for me.

Oh, give it a try, Dan.

A rebound. You're throwing an elbow near my face. Yeah, no, don't want to do this. This is not something… Never mind for a living, don't want to do it once. What, Joe Kitsch wants a rebound and is comfortable just swinging his elbow? No, thank you. I'll choose another career.

He doesn't care if his elbows bleed.

I'm guessing that it's okay to be angry if that's what you're doing. All right, sorry about that. Let's do The Thursday Thunder. We're in the.

Middle of a point. Here we are. Here we are. Here are the sponsors, Chris.

Thursday, Thunder. Good job. Brought to you by DraftKings sportsbook. You can follow our parlay on the DraftKings, sportsbook app.

Yes, man. I usually come in here, I hoop and holla, and I give you bad picks. I would like to personally apologize for the last batch of picks that I was responsible for. I care too much about the audience then to keep giving this lackluster effort. Me, bottom of my heart, accountability. I, JuJuGoddy, am sorry for those picks. I'm sorry, man. We're forget it. What these though?

What these?

We are back, John John. I need my couturement.

Oh, oh.

Oh, oh.

We are going over 26.5 yards for Quentin Butterfingers Johnson tonight. He will redeem himself and he will get over his hump, Don Tonellius. Next one. We are going over 4.5 catches for Jacob Myers. He's an expatriate. He has the patriot way in his blood, which means he's a loser at times. But tonight, he will get it done. Trust me on this, guys. Please, if you can't. You dig me. And the last one. We believe in the fallen soldier, Justin Herbert, but we also believe in his replacement. We are going east and stick. Over 189.5 yards tonight. He will get it done tonight, you all. Please believe in us. I'm so sorry. Trust these pigs.

Your credibility is not strong here. But he said sorry. He did apologize. He has apologized. Not exactly what you want, generally, with your gambling advice and apologies. Apologies.

Sorry about last week.

What accountability?

Yeah.

I'm not sorry.

Here's this week.

Tj Watt's been averaging a sack of game. We also didn't get the other two legs of the parlay either, but...

Why not?

Because I suck at making parlays. But JuJu...

So if someone had taken the exact opposite of what we did, they would have won?

In the money game.

The game of.

The winner. Come on. Don Levitard. He said while you were off there, while the connection was bad, he had mentioned that you have lost a lot of weight and that he admires that. What got into you? Why did you decide? I thought we enjoyed being about the munchy.

Oh, it's slurring again. Okay, the connection is bad again, unfortunately. Back to Magnus. Okay, back to Magnus for Magnus. This is going about as well as it could go. Thank you, Billy, again for laughing in my face. Still got.

I mean, I am the.

Worst here.

Can you guys.

Hear me? I'm trying to hear you back.

Yes, we can hear you.

Hello?

Yes, sir, action.

Hello? Action.

Man, I'm really sorry. This is literally the worst way to ever do this. This is burning my heart that this is happening.

But.

If.

You could hear me, just understand I'm sorry.

This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stoo Gats.

Hi.

Stoo. Hello. It's been so long, but... I miss you.

I miss you, too. How you been?

I've been good. Thank you.

What's our Zach Wilson status right now? How are we feeling?

You know, it's funny you brought this up, Maine. I was telling Dan before that you have to make bold NFL predictions or just bold sports predictions. Imagine if you were the person six or seven years ago that said, Hey, you know what? One day, Gino Smith is going to be a top 10 quarterback in the NFL. People would have laughed at you at the time, and then you move on. Then seven years.

Later-they did laugh at me.

Well, there you go. Seven years later, you're proven right. You throw it in everyone's face. I truly did. That's what you do. And if you're wrong, everyone forgets about it. I've made a career out of doing this. I am going to say I want to own this prediction, okay, Mena, that at some point in Zach Wilson's career, he will be a top five quarterback in the NFL.

Oh, my God.

Wow. You laugh now.

That's the point.

What are you doing? That is a good point.

Bold NFL predictions, Dan.

I think you're right. I think you guys should tap, stew, giving that exact take about all 32 quarterbacks in the NFL right now. Just like 60 seconds of him saying, Jake Browning is going to be the MVP. Boom. Desmond Ridder is going to be the MVP. Boom. Nick Mullins. And then bank them or put them out there. Nobody will know. Put them on YouTube somewhere. Then when one of those things actually happens, you can reach back. We will praise him as Nostradameh. Do you have a prediction name for you?

Nostradameh.

Yeah, I forgot that. Yeah. And nobody will remember the 31 other incorrect takes.

Bingo. We've done this before for March Madness, where Stugass goes through the entire field and tells you that this is why they're going to win, having not watched any of them play basketball.

Right. How about this one, Mena? Bryce Young is going to be better than C. J. Strat.

How about that?

Yes.

The beauty of that, no one is going to care unless it's correct. Thank you.

Well, Ameen was pointing out, Mena, I don't know if you heard about this, but I believe that Amin Al-Hassan had what was the single greatest prediction, not just here in the history of our show, but in the history of predicting all things. Amin Al-Hassan, listen to what he said, dismissed by Chris Wittingham, before Gino Smith did anything for Seattle in that time where everybody was saying, Oh, he beat out Drew Lock. Isn't that funny? They don't have any quarterback at all. Gino Smith stinks. Give me the sound of Amino Hassan, and then get me the stats to see how close Amino Hassan came to be exactly right on what he predicted Gino Smith would do before the season even started.

I submit to you 4,000 yards for Gino Smith. Okay. Impossible.

I would take that.

30 tuddies, 11 INTs.

You're not allowed to add that.

I will sit.

If that exact.

Stat line happens, I will sit and do this show in my underpants. There is no way.

Click that. Career 34.

Touchdowns, 37 interceptions.

You should have.

To do an episode from your bathtub.

34 touchdowns.

Sure, why not? I'll do a show for my bathtub if Gino Smith does this.

Free Yourself King.

Let me write.

That down. 4k.

4,000. What did you say? 32 touchdowns, 11.

30 and 11? 30 and 11. 30 and 11?

Yeah, 30 touchdowns. I think it's attainable. I will.

Do the show from my bathtub if this happens.

Gino Smith finished the season with 4,282 yards, 30 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions.

What? What?

That's a genius.

Guys. Are you serious?

Chris Wittekamp never did a.

Show from his bathtub.

Guys, this is really embarrassing. I wish I hadn't prepared the statement off the top of my head, but I'd like to thank Jino Smith for being the guy that I believed in. For doing it. I'd like to thank the Dan Levitard show for giving me the platform to have that prediction. I'd like to thank my parents.

For.

Them. I wouldn't be here today, and God for giving me so much clear points.

It is amazing. Correct, Mena? How has that not gotten more attention?

I'm not an attention person. I'm behind the scenes.

You pointed at the rafters. Oh, my gosh. That is an incredible prediction. I've never had a prediction. The most right I've ever been was when I was in junior high, and I remember saying, Kurt Warner would be good. Really? Yes, yes. What was that year? 1999? I think I was in eighth grade, and I remember seeing the news on sports center or whatever, and they were like, Who is this guy? Arena, football, or whatever. And my dad contested. I was like, I don't know, I think he's going to be pretty good. And I was right about that. But it's not documented and I get no.

Credit for it. What are the things that you have said? What is the football opinion you've had that gets you chased around the most by people screaming at you or reminding you, Josh Allen? Yeah, I should go in.

This show, deservedly.

Well, this is funny that you should say this, Mena, because in the assessments of game managers and systems taking over the sport, and this one seems super important to me, that everyone paid to do the analyzing is super shitty at actually being able to know what makes a good quarterback. They can try, but the probabilities make it really hard to tell the difference between Tray Lance and Brock Purdy when you're setting up a system around them.

Dan, if I may help in this regard. I feel like people want to know predictions like, Do you think Josh Allen is going to be good? Then talking heads and analysts say their thing. Then when they're right, we're like, Okay, when they're wrong. You were wrong, so you were wrong. But you never ask the correct question, which is, why were you wrong? So, Mena, what were you wrong about Josh Allen? And why did you have those conclusions?

Yeah, I've talked about this quite a bit. There's things I think when I revisit why I thought he wasn't going to be good, which was the mainstream and I felt take at the time, in my defense, I was putting a lot of precedent on his college career. I watched Josh Allen in college. He was not the same player. He was inaccurate. And he was inaccurate when he came into the NFL, by the way. And I thought accuracy didn't change. I didn't think a quarterback could become markedly more accurate. Now we have a couple of examples in him and Jaylen Hertz, I would say, of quarterbacks whose improvement arc is not something that has a lot of precedent in NFL history. And so now when I look at these quarterback prospects like an Anthony Richardson, who his accuracy was spotty in college, I'm much more wary of being definitive about their capacity to improve. I will say with Allen, and I've talked to people in the NFL about this and Jaylen Hertz, they have a shared quality that I think we, on the outside, can never quite measure, which is the desire to improve. Both of those guys worked their asses off to get better, to get more accurate, to improve at the quarterback-y stuff that they weren't as good at in college.

And as an analyst, that is just something that is very hard to gage.

And to that point, Mena, that goes for the talent evaluators, too, because the teams, you're trying to figure out, does this kid love football? That's the one that they always ask. But guess what? If I'm trying to get drafted, guess what my answer is to do you love football? I love it more than anything. They all say that. They all and everyone that you ask in their support system, their college coaches, they're high school coaches. They're all going to say the same thing because they want to be affiliated with this thing that they think is going to be a big success. The problem is there is no way, as Mena just said, for us to go inside someone's brain and figure out, do you really care about it? How much do you care about it? What she just talked about for Hertz and Allen, that's the golden goose, really. That is the last frontier of scouting. You got your medicals. You can even do the psych testing and all that stuff.

Do they really care?

Do they really give a shit about this?

And ultimately- Nearly impossible to know.

It is impossible. They just have to do it.

And those guys were like, touched by God. It's physical talent. There's a lot of guys in the NFL who really give a shit and never come anywhere close to touching those heights. But we're always talking about the media gets it wrong. Most of these teams get it wrong when it comes to quarterbacks. Look at the hit rate over the last few years. It's just very hard to project, and that's something I've come to accept.

And then there's something else that goes within that, which is sometimes the guy does care, and sometimes maybe he does have the skills, but the coach he plays for or the system or the team, or the environment isn't congruent and isn't a good situation for them, so they have to go somewhere else. And there's a way, Well, he was always this good. Why wasn't he this good here? There's millions of reasons of why it didn't work here. That doesn't mean it won't work anywhere else, but we ignore all those.

Things as well. Happened with Gino Smith. We were discussing game managers before. Why is that an insult? Why is being called a game manager an insult?

Well, I think it depends on how you interpret the term, but I feel like the most common interpretation when someone says a quarterback is a game manager, which is different from being a system quarterback, by the way, is a quarterback who plays conservative, who checks it down a lot, who leans on the production of his teammates more than creating on his own. I would say a guy who doesn't elevate the players around him but can run an offense. That's how I've always thought of the term. I think that's why when Cam Newton called a wildly different, disparate group of diverse, rather group of quarterbacks, game managers, people took such offense to it because it is derogatory. I know there's some debate over whether or not it's positive or not. I don't think it's like a very... It's not like damning, and you're not saying a quarterback stinks, but it's not a compliment. Like, anyone who says it's a compliment.

Is lying. However, in the modern system, Mena, where Josh Allen's recklessness is what keeps him from winning football games, I do believe.

That - He's.

Also won a bunch, though. I know, but from there, you can describe that as a skill set that coaches think of as a compliment. He protects the football, is the same version of game manager. My main chief goal here is to make sure we don't have turnovers. It doesn't mean that you've got a player who can make giant plays, but they really seem to value not making turnovers more than they do other things.

Well, I would say Josh Allen's defense is what has kept him from winning big games, not his turnovers. When you look at the really big games where they've lost in overtime, more often than not, it's not been Josh Allen's fault in his defense. I think the dream is you have a quarterback who pushes the ball downfield, takes calculated risks, makes plays, and also doesn't turn it over. There are quarterbacks like that in the NF. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes is the apex or whatever. But when you look at the top five or six guys, they do have both of those qualities, Stan. I think with Allen, the question is always like, okay, you have to accept that with these plays, because of the nature of his play, the aggression, whatever, you get some of that. At what point is the risk dial turned a little too high? I think generally, by and large, over the last few years, it's been fine. Obviously, his turnovers have cost him in a couple of high-profile moments. But for the most part, you have gotten extraordinary quarterback play out of him, especially lately, by the way. He's been balling out.

Don Libertard. Do you.

Know what a razor.

Is, Dan? I do not know. I don't know what a motorola razor is. You don't? No. I bet you you had one. I did not have one. Really? Let's walk through your phone history. What phones did you have? I never had a motorola razor. Let's go backwards. I did not have a motorola razor. What was your first phone? Oh. Not a motorola razor.

Telegraph machine?

After.

That.

The.

Motorola razor, Dan.

Was the one that was really, really thin that it.

Flipped over.

But it was.

As thin as a razor blade. That's why they called it.

The Razr. What is a telegraph machine?

I.

Don't know. They had one in down Abbey.

Stugatz.

The Titanic stop.

Has.

Sunken, stop.

John Jacob, stop. Is missing, stop.

You think that was my phone? You think that my first phone was the Titanic's emergency signal? This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugards.

Speaking of Patrick, my homes, can you further roast Chris Cody for his take about Tony after Sunday's game? He said that the call was a mistake and it should have never been called. And we all said, No, he was offset.

He was wind up. What's his logic?

My take is that it was like a toenail over, and that this blue line, if you take that blue line away, it's.

Just like-Chris, let me cut you off. His take is he had money on.

The cheese. No, if I freeze every line of Scrimage, I can find that a lot. And it's just bullshit. After last week, when there's a no call on the most egregious PI call, and then that's what we're going to call. It's just horse crap.

Okay, that's a terrible take. But you did say something that I think is worth acknowledging. Everybody was really mad at Patrick Mohom. He was freaking out at the refs after. And I get it. He sounded... Is the person who should be mad at him is Josh Allen because he went up to him after the game and he was complaining about the refs. You know when someone is freaking out and they want you to freak out and you want no part of it? Josh Allen's face is so funny in that interaction. He's like, I don't want any part of this. This is so awkward.

I want to get out of here, right?

I know. It's like, oh. Or when someone, you work with someone and they aggressively want to talk shit about the boss or something, and they're trying to bring you in and you just have no interest in being part of that conversation, that is what Josh Allen looked like in that moment. However, the thing I want to say in Patrick Muhammad's defense, which Chris, you alluded to here, his case was like, he's like, I don't like it when refs decide games in big moments. He said that exact same thing the prior week when he was asked about the no DPI, which was an egregious DPI. So I will say Mohom's has been... I don't think this was really pointed out. He's been consistent about this. He was wrong. It was an obvious offside. I don't know, Chris, that was one of the more glaring offsides I've ever seen.

But the center is like the balls lined up, and then the center takes the ball when he gets there, and they have an inch or two to move it back a little bit. You could make the argument when the ball was laying down, it was where the foot was, but the center grabs the ball, puts it upwards. We're talking about six inches here.

It just was bull crap. All right, listen.

Chris Cody. You just went from one inch to six inches.

Somewhere between one and six inches.

It's almost like, guys exaggerate size.

Chris Cody, there's no such thing as a 5'11 man. Chris Cody, listen to me. I want you as punishment for how terrible that take is. This is what I would like. This is.

What I would like.

This is to help the dolphins. What I want, because there's a lot that you're doing as executive producer today, and I want to stack more demands on you, Jessica is going to ask Mena a question. Mena is going to answer that question. By the time Mena is done answering that question, I want from you a song that celebrates someone being terribly wrong with their sports opinion, and then I want to hear audio for a terribly wrong sports opinion. And the clock is on you right now. I have to call Yety. No, right now, the clock at the end of Nina talking, I want to hear those two things.

Nina, okay, given this is my question, Chris, start writing. Get a pen. Come on.

Is it a long answer?

Yes, take your time. Given how the officialiating has been that a lot of, not just Patricks and the Homes, but a lot of fans are complaining about the season, too, the inconsistencies. Given the comments this week about potentially outlawing the hip-drop tackle next season or that being something that the NFL is going to look at, how do you think that officialiating around that is going to go? If that's now something that the refs are going to emphasize.

Yeah, I think they'll just call it like they see it. All right, go, Chris.

Oh, my God. She says go.

Right now. Go right now.

Chris.

Chris, come on, come on, come on.

You are so wrong. Ha, ha, you're wrong. You are so wrong. You are so wrong. You are so wrong. You are so wrong. You are so wrong. You are so wrong.

Wow.

Amazing.

That was amazing. 45 seconds, you came up.

With all that. Do you have audio of anybody being extraordinarily wrong?

You could just run Chris back from a few minutes ago.

It's one thing I.

Learned about having a kid is I do have to make up songs on the fly, which I've never done that before. Never been a performer, a singer, or a singer or a writer or a poet or an improviser in any sense. But there's only so many times you can sing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star before you start remixing your own version of it. Right. And then you just find yourself reaching for the worst hymns. Yeah.

Mena, the good news is they can't tell. They're going to be fascinated by anything you do.

Do you think it's okay? Because I'm like, I'm writing Nina with Nina, which is my kid's name, and I'm like, That didn't really track. No. I'm looking at me.

Nina, I think the weirder you get with the rimes and the stranger stuff is the cooler your kid is going to be.

Interesting.

Okay. Well, no one's going to back me up here. In a room.

Full of freaks.

No one's going to.

Be like, Yeah, go for it. We're going to talk.

About it. We need to say, Whoa. I don't.

Want him to learn to come out of this thinking that Star rimes with fart or whatever I say to him, I want him to have... I always pronounced a lot of words wrong, and I think it's because I didn't know how they were pronounced for a lot of my life, and I've been shamed for it as an adult.

What? Same.

Words you read, but never heard it loud.

Give me one. I've mentioned this. On my very first date with my husband, I was like, I'll have the broccoli rabe confidently ordered the broccoli raw bay.

No.

That's wrong. Confident. Although maybe he was like, that's like, what did they say about you should play dumb or something? It's like toxic.

A little giggle.

Oops. I got him trapped. Here we are.

Now, we actually do have, after that imaging, we have to have a submission, and we will see how long it takes for someone on our show to beat this. Right now, currently, the leader in the clubhouse for most wrong is this clip from Get Up in Mike Greenberg.

Thrilled that the jets did not trade for Tyree Kill. Had the jets made that deal, I would have been dismayed by it. Am I right or wrong, should I have wanted Tyree Kill?

No, you should not have wanted Tyree Kill. When a trade like this happens, ask yourself which of these two teams is smart and which of these two teams is not? The Chiefs have been extremely successful for almost a decade now under Andy Reed because they don't do stupid things. The Dolphins, meanwhile, traded everything and then paid him as the highest paid receiver in the history of the NFL. That's not the thing smart teams do. He's a 28-year-old wide receiver whose game is solely reliant upon speed, who's played the entirety of his prime with Patrick Mohom. You're paying 150 cents on the dollar.

I think.

You are completely right. Brian Flores got fired because he doesn't think Tuatonga-Vailo is a great player. And you know what? That's because Tua Tongue-Navilo is not a great player. But you know who has to justify that pick, the man who made it. So the general manager who will forever be the guy who took Tua instead of Justin Herbert. When Justin Herbert is standing on the stage in Canton, Ohio, getting his Hall of Fame jacket because he's going to be the best quarterback in the League for the next 10 years, and Tua is going to be a backup somewhere. That the general manager is going to know he was wrong and the owner is going to know. But in this particular case, the general manager convinced the owner I was right, and the coach doesn't believe in him. So the Dolphins, in my opinion, made a terrible deal.

I.

Am thrilled the jets didn't make it. I agree with you. I think Kansas City got it right.

That's.

Amazing. Meena, how wrong with he?

-what's wrong with he?

It's like Wade and LeBron. There are like 30 different takes packed into that 15... I don't even know which take. I mean, you have to acknowledge the take to time ratio there, which is something we should measure like war is-D-T-R. -through the roof. Yeah. Look, I didn't think Hill would be this good in Miami. I didn't think... First of all, he's historically good right now. What he's doing is literally never been done.

Hold on a second. Nina, Lucy Charlotte, why are you tears laughing back there? What happened? Charlotte just sneaked at our head on the table.

I fell to the floor. I get so crying.

She's like a.

Cartoon character. Can we have video of that? I would like to see it.

Please tell me we have video of that.

We did not catch that.

She's in the background there. There must be a fuzzy, headphones flying up.

Lucy, through tears, please explain your dog question to Mena, please.

Mena, I've been having a rough day at work until Charlotte's needs and a headphones came on.

Rough. Well done. Thank you.

So this weekend, I am renting a dog. I'm going to the shelter and signing on a dog for the day so that they can go out in public and wear the little adopt meat collar and so that they can get exposure outside of the shelter. Then I have to turn them back in like six hours later. And everyone said that was really mean of me to do because I'm giving the dog false hope.

It's not an orphan.

It'll find a hall. I'm helping the process.

It sounds like you're pimping the dog.

I'm not pimping the dog. They're pimping the dog.

Literally, you're like, I'm going to get him gussied up, take him out to the streets, advertise his services, try to make him attractive to a buyer, and then take him back. It's how.

He's trying to be in a shelter. Literally the.

Definition of tiptych. It's a pretty classic definition of pimping.

That's what they ask you to do. What is the dog wearing? Are you.

Making him wear something? They give you a little adopt me harness. It'll say adopt me all over it. They ask that you take it into a public place and you take pictures. I'm excited and everyone thinks it's really cruel. It's evil.

I'm just not.

Thinking of.

Lucy with the dog all gussied up. Lucy's wearing a fur coat in my mental image. Not to lean on stereotypes here, but I guess I just did. Sitting about six yards away from the dog watching the dog because you don't want people to think you own the dog and the dog is unavailable. They're trying to.

Adopt me stuff on it. So it'll have adopt me clearly written on the harness. I've done this before. I didn't adopt a dog for a hike, but I got to go on a dog with a hike with a bunch of shelter dogs, and they all had adopt me leashes and collars and harnesses on. So it just says adopt me all over it, and they encourage you to go out and meet people so that they pet the dog and maybe they want to adopt the dog. So I feel like I'm going to have a great day, and I feel like.

I'm doing a good thing. Jessica, why are you mouthing terrible?

Everyone's.

Being so mean to Lucy and this poor dog.

I'm not.

Doing any work. I'm not.

Doing any work. I mean, it.

Gets- Think about the poor dog at the end of the day when it's like, Oh, this was fun, right? Back to the canner.

Think about Lucy, who has a social media following, who can post this dog and it can get it- What if it gets adopted because she took it out? Yeah.

Also, you don't.

Not go on vacation because it's going to end. That's true.

It reminds me of my idea for a television show, which I've pitched to numerous people, and everyone always says, Brilliant, but too mean, which is- Go on. Okay, yeah. You have my attention. Tell me you wouldn't watch this show. Take a shelter dog. He spends a week with one family, second week, the TV schedule, so it'd probably be like three days, with another family. Then, and you tape everything. Then in the conclusion, you go out to a field, you put one family on each end of the field.

You put the dog in the middle.

Then you see tagline, Who will he choose?

Chews. Yeah.

Peers, children, family, one family, overjoyed. It's all that.

Yes, excellent work. Yes.

Excellent work. He did not.

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