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All right. Dan is still out in La. He is with the entire company. They are getting you ready. He is covering. Just so you know, the lakers and clippers as their seasons get underway. Dan is out there covering the scene for us. We appreciate it. We'll throw it to him in just a couple of hours. Greg Cody is here. Billy is dressed up today. Billy, what are you doing?

I'm paying off grid of death punishment. I'm dressed as mankind. I rule with an iron fist.

This is a good look for you.

Things have to be taken seriously around here, have to be paid. So here I am to pay.

All right.

You seem thrilled.

I am.

I mean, I'm having a nice day.

Great.

Is it uncomfortable?

It's not my wardrobe of choice, I would say, but I feel like I could look worse.

You actually look good with the hair. I feel like you should grow your hair out and look like know.

Jason who works with us has very long hair. I don't know if you guys have noticed because he always puts it up in a ponytail and I see him sometimes parking and he lets his hair down and then he goes to put up in a ponytail. Very nice, luscious.

I see him sometimes parking. What are you just watching? People in the parking garage.

I park in a parking garage. Sometimes people park.

You and him have the same arrival time. You have that with anyone at work where it's like me and this person just get here at the same time every day.

Well, you two get here at the same time because you ride the train.

Well, we haven't been actually the Orlando, they added an orlando stop. So it changed all the times. So I've actually not been brightlining the last few months.

Wait, so you could bright line from down here to orlando now?

Yeah.

How long does that take?

Well, from here, I think it's like.

Four and change from here, three and change from fort lauderdale, I believe is roughly the time. We'll just keep moving past that shot Billy just took at them.

It was a good shot, though.

It's not their fault.

They stay on the tracks, the trains. I mean, if people get in the way, what are you supposed to do?

It's the people's fault, definitely.

Yes.

100%.

They can't swerve out of the way.

Yeah. It's never bright line's fault. They don't judge out from behind bushes.

It's a train track.

Right. Okay.

Clearly those things go down. A lot of bells and whistles.

Yeah, a lot of bells. Yeah. Reese Davis is going to join us in a couple of minutes. Here the host of college game day. Greg was telling me a story earlier because we think Reese Davis is very handsome. He's a good looking guy. And I was telling Greg that my wife finds him to be very attractive. But Greg was telling me a story about his wife and Pat Riley.

Oh, my.

Can you share that?

Well, yeah, I mean, I put you.

In a bad spot.

No. The silver fox. This is ten or 15 years ago. So Pat Riley is, like, late middle age. He's just gorgeous. And he's walking into we're at this event, this social event, which is a rarity for me. We're at the social event. My wife has never been directly in Pat Riley's company before. He walks into the room, and she swooned like palpably, and she isn't prone to do that.

Right.

And the whole ride home, she could not stop talking about what a magnetic good looking man pat Riley was to see up and close.

He is debitaire, I might say.

No doubt.

Right.

That was happening yesterday with a bunch of people's wives and Nick Bosa.

Right?

Yeah.

Yes.

Well, it happened with my wife and Reese Davis. Really? Yeah. We're watching College Game Day one day, and the camera is coming across the screen, and there's Reese Davis sitting right in the middle of all the action. And my wife says, hey, who's that? And I know when my wife is asking, hey, who's that? She's really saying to me, that's a handsome guy, and it's a good looking set.

So it could have been any of them.

Reese, how do you feel about that? Sorry to make it uncomfortable for you.

It's not uncomfortable. I mean, it's just a day that ends in wise two guts. So it just happened again. No, I'm kidding. No, you're not. You want to see my wife's eyes roll? Let me walk into the bathroom, we're getting up, and I look in the mirror, and I go, wow, happened again. And she goes, what? And I go, I got better looking again. I mean, you want to talk about the ultimate eye roll? Because she knows I'm full of it when I say that, too.

What is going on with the, like reese, you have a great office. You have all these jerseys. Why is Jay Billis behind your I think it's your left shoulder there, Mark May.

Yeah, because I don't really collect memorabilia. So what I do like to get, though, is when people are kind enough and gracious enough to share them, I like to get jerseys of people that I've worked with. So I've got Billis up here. I've got Mark May, Hubert Davis from North Carolina. Hubert Davis jersey has a prominent place in the house. I've got a Rod Gilmore Stanford jersey. I've got a Desmond Howard over there.

Nice.

I'm not really a collector, but that's what I like to do.

Would Stanford Steve give you a little mini fridge you could put in there?

Yeah, I should get another because Gilmore played at Stanford. I should get a Stanford 82 jersey. I think he was number 82 when he played at Stanford.

They're going to be at Salt Lake City this weekend, utah and Oregon. Reese do you get as excited now hosting that show, that wonderful, great show that we have all fallen in love with? Are you as excited this weekend as you were when you first started hosting the show?

Stu I am, man. I mean, maybe I'm just a nerd for the college football or something and for the scenes and for the energy, but I always get the adrenaline going, and I'm usually singing the fight songs or doing Ohio last week, and I'll be fired up for the mighty Utah student section. I mean, this is what I grew up with. This is the sport that I love the most from when I was a little kid. So to get to do this every week, it just doesn't get old to me. So I don't dread it. I'm always excited for wherever we go, and I'm looking forward to getting back to Utah. I don't have it framed, but when we were at Utah last time, they actually gave me a jersey, too that has my name on it and the number from the first year that I hosted the show. We went the second year and they presented that to me, which was very nice.

Reese what have you made of the polarizing reaction to Pat McAfee and what his addition has been like to college game day?

His addition has been great. And it's kind of funny because when you say gives energy, it's like we were all putting everybody to sleep before then. I hope that's not the case. But Pat is such a magnetic dude, and he's got such an innate feel for what resonates with the audience out there. And it's just been fantastic. He's an amazing teammate. So I think that even people who will go, wait a minute, why is he on the show? Have been won over. I'll give you a perfect example. My wife's 85 year old aunt, she didn't have any idea who Pat McAfee was when he joined the show.

Right.

And now I hope she still likes the fact that I'm on the show. But really what she wants to see is she wants to see Pat with the field goal kicker. So she loves him. So he's won over a lot of people who maybe weren't as familiar with him if they weren't inside, obviously, within his demographic, the reaction he gets from the college kids I've never seen just it's really a fascinating thing, and I'm delighted to have him on the show and hope that's the case for a really long time.

Just remind Pat that Lee Corso is the star of that show, okay? Like, I hope he knows.

It seems like he does. You know what the thing is, Stu, is I think the one thing that shows Pat's that I talked about, that innate ability to connect with people yes, pat does such a fantastic job with Know, and not only being respectful to him, but finding the right tone and doing the right thing. They had a thing early in the season on which they had different points of view. And Pat did a spectacular job of presenting his point of view, which was in direct contrast with how Lee felt about something without being disagreeable. And he's got a really remarkable sense for things. And he's worked his tail off to really get into the DNA and the fabric of college football because by his own admission, he leaned more NFL during his show for a number of years. So he's just been sensational. And I think that most people the one thing it's almost like I hate to go biblical on you guys, actually, I really don't hate to, but the lukewarm gets spewed out of the mouth, right? You're either hot or you're cold. And so I think there's a lot to be said for that when people have the talent to generate the type of reaction that Pat does.

Reese, this latest controversy at Michigan, the sign stealing allegations, it has the feel of something that could really mushroom and be serious. What do you think?

Well, first of all, sign stealing, Greg, as you know, is as old as competition. Now, I don't say that to diminish it because it's in the rulebook in black and white. And if Michigan is found to have done everything that it certainly appears up to this point that their staffer stallions did, then they cheated. And that's the end of they they gained an unfair advantage based on the rules and they're going to have to be punished for it. The funny thing about it is that I don't think it will affect this year because that would be record time for the NCAA if they adjudicate something that quickly. I don't really see I saw someone write yesterday that maybe the Big Ten should do something about it, but I don't really see that because that's sort of operating against your own interest if you rule them ineligible or something. And then there's also a thought now, depending on how far it goes back, if they were doing it with Ohio State and Penn State, which according to Pete Famel's really in depth article yesterday, there are records of tons of tickets being bought in a number of stadiums by this person and transferred to someone else.

And some apparently, according to the story, have video surveillance, know, cell phones being pointed in that direction of the bench. You can gain a competitive advantage against your equals, against your peers. But it sort of reminds me of what I had a history professor say about Watergate. He said that Nixon could have been vacationing in the Bahamas for the entire 72 election and he would have won. He wasn't going to lose. It was completely unnecessary. So if they were doing it to steal signs from Rutgers, or even though Rutgers is having a good year, Indiana, then it's completely unnecessary. And you wonder why the operation was even undertaken. But when you start talking Ohio State, Penn State, some of the others, and it's all serious, that's even more serious. And I think probably at some point the question becomes, will the result be that, I don't know, harbaugh suspended for the Raiders Broncos game next year or something? I don't know.

Don Lebotard let's go to 80. Wow. I think Billy typed an eight instead of a b five. The clearest day. Stu got number eight. It's Chris Corner on the line. This is the Don Levitar show with the stugats.

I have to ask you a quick off the wall question. It's got nothing to do with sports because you're a guy who grew up in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Now, I love that kind of music. And when I hear Muscle Shoals, I think soul music, what we used to call soul music, aretha Franklin, Wilson Pickett, everybody went through there. What was it like growing up for you? How did the music aspect of Muscle Shoals inform your childhood and your young adulthood?

Greg I wish I had embraced it a little bit more, but it was just something that was normal. I mean, people would come to school and know I saw this artist or this group or whatever. And the other thing is, one of my high school classmates and teammates is a man called Rodney Hall. His father. And it sounds as if you've seen the documentary. So his father was Rick Hall, who founded Fame Studios. And Rodney actually runs the studios now, and they're still churning out great music, both on production level music and also finding new artists and sending them to different places. So it was something I wish that I'd really embraced more. But I think having Rodney as a friend and a classmate and it just being something that was normal with Fame recording studios and Muscle Shoal sound being in town, it was just sort of something that was accepted as kind of normal. But looking back on it, it's really cool. And I even learned a lot of things from the documentary a few years ago that I didn't know despite having grown up there.

Rodney Reese, I'm going to play a sound for you, okay? And I simply want to know what you were thinking when Desmond Howard did this on college game day. He's going to bring that dick peanuts energy. He's going to bring that dick peanut energy.

What was I thinking? I was thinking, after all of these years, the Washington quarterback is 24 years old, he's on his second stop, and you still don't know how to pronounce his last name.

He's going to breathe that big penis energy. Chris thinks that's the effect of Pat McAfee on the show. Do you agree?

No. Look, you guys know our guys. They're all pretty strong willed guys. Now, I think Pat's had a good influence in that he has sparked us in some ways to say what we think, which we always should do, and I think we always have done, but I think that's just Desmond. I think that's just Desmond going for one there, to be honest with you. I think everybody I think everybody's pretty strong in their convictions on that show.

Chris wasn't letting you finish. He had to hit it again.

Well, he apparently likes it. The thing that I think that when we reacted was pat had a great line coming out of it. Pat said, wow, I've been pronouncing his name wrong. I said, no, you've got it right, Stu. I've got to be the dad sometimes.

Yeah, I know. A bunch of kids, right? Preventing dad from getting the work done. I understand. It's like the levitard show. It's exactly.

What have we got going on here?

Well, Billy, explain yourself.

So we do this thing called the Bucket of Death. Reese and apparently from time to time you have to wear punishments and costumes and such. And I have to pay off a punishment today on Mankind the Wrestler. Are you a Halloween guy? Do you dress up for Halloween?

No, I do not. The last time I did was someone back when I used to do the car racing show 100 years ago on ESPN. One of the sponsors sent me one of those racing suits, fire suits. And so when I took my kids around to trick or treat, I wore it and claimed that I was going as a half hearted it was a half hearted effort at costume race.

I think you guys this Saturday should do it in Salt Lake City. You guys should dress as one another, right? Like, you should come in as Pat McAfee. Pat should come in as, like what do you think? Good idea.

I'm in not good enough shape to pull off the tank top. I need to get a little more jacked before I can do know. I could maybe dress as Herb Street or something because there wouldn't be that much know. I'd just have to go blonde there or something.

What's been the most interesting story for you in college football this season?

I think the one that we're going through right now with Michigan, which has been the most dominant team and most consistently dominant team, yet they've played no one who can I'll put it this way no one who can fog an elite know UNLV's had a good season. Rutgers had a good season, but they haven't played anybody that's close to their level, but they have been consistently dominant. And now you have this sign stealing thing coming around. I think beyond that, it's been the year of the near miss. We've had a number of games that came close to altering what will be the playoff picture, eliminating Know if Oklahoma loses to UCF, if Texas takes the second loss to Houston, if Goodness of Washington loses to Arizona State the other night, but none of it happened. So it's been sort of the year of the near miss, and now it's almost trending as if you're going to have maybe with one interloper, some grouping of what's been the norm in the College Football Playoff era. Because if you had some combination of Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, Oklahoma, and Washington's been before, washington, Oregon, Oregon's been before, you're not getting all of this new blood that maybe a few weeks ago that we thought we were going to get in the playoff.

Now Texas would be if Texas makes it back for sure, and Washington would feel like, you know, all of those teams with the exception of Texas, have been to the playoff before. On the negative side, it's probably Clemson hasn't bounced back and had another tough one down close to you guys the other night.

Reese, for a couple years now, people have wanted the expansion of the playoff and we're going to get it. Are you at all concerned that it's going to lead to average teams getting in just because of the fact that you're going to have so many teams in the playoff once you expand to twelve?

It's my biggest concern about expansion, and I understand why people want it because we're conditioned to want the postseason. But just look at baseball. Don't have I know you've got to win your clutch games. I'm not trying to diminish the teams that did advance, but you don't have the teams that were the best teams in the regular season, 162 games, they prove they're the best and then boom, they're out because they don't play well in series. But that's part and parcel of the way it goes. But in college football forever, we either had controversy about the champion, which stoked a lot of interest, or we had a very small postseason, two teams, four teams, and it was really hard to get in and it put a premium on the regular season. So the price that we are going to pay as a sport is the loss of that all or nothing feel to games in the regular season, which no one else has. It's probably time to pay that price because the fans seem to want it. The enterprise, the industry, the business side of it probably demands it. So it's probably time to pay the price.

But I don't think we should pretend that it comes at no cost because what you said is exactly right. It won't be long until a three loss team gets in, or a four loss team, or whatever it might be. And then you're going to start debating the merits of a three loss team from whatever is perceived to be the best league that particular year, versus maybe a one loss team from a lesser league that's maybe outside what will be starting next year. The power four conferences. So there are a lot of changes that are going to come with this. We're going to give up some of the things that make the sport different and makes the regular season better than any other regular season in sports. But maybe because of public demand and business concerns and all of those things, it's probably time to move on and evolve. And the good news is, whatever we get, nobody's against more meaningful football. And so having a few more games in December and January that carry actual weight, that'll be the good side of what we're losing on the front side during the regular season.

You sound sad about this, almost.

No, I'm not. I'm not really sad because there just haven't been a lot of years in this 14 playoff era where you've had a major beat, what, maybe two. Now you're just taking it on down the line. I'm not sad about it. I think it's exciting in a lot of ways, but I go back to a couple of games since I've been on game day and really through the history of the sport, but particularly 2019. We went to Tuscaloosa for LSU, Alabama. Tua was coming off that injury. Joe Burrow was having that great year and was know on a rocket ship, and because they were in the same division, there was no real opportunity at a rematch. And that had an all or nothing feel in November, and the intensity was crazy. There have been several others like that. Georgia, Tennessee, maybe not quite to that degree last year, but it was huge and you don't find that anywhere else, and so that's going to go away. The flip side of it is, and I said this in the meeting this week, is that next year, if you played out what the bracket would look like at the moment for next year, oregon would be in, but not safely at the moment, still, obviously, with a chance to win its conference championship.

And Utah would be on the outside looking in. So you would have a late October game in which there's a flip or an elimination coming way down the know that's there's some appeal to that for sure. And there are a lot of those who counter what I say about the all or nothing field of the Giant regular season games. Countering that okay, but there will be more games that matter at some point down the line, too.

Reese, this isn't so much a question but a statement, and I'd like to get your reaction to it. I love the idea of expansion because a multitude of teams like Miami who know they're not going to be top four, but who think maybe they sneak into twelve, they're energized, all of a sudden the season feels different to a whole second level of second tier teams that don't feel involved right now. Do you agree with that?

I think it's fair, yeah. I think that's the fair sentiment about it is that you don't feel like your season is over, like you don't feel like if you lose that big showdown game that you've got nothing to play for and you start thinking about next year and how much playing time am I getting, am I going to stay here? Am I going pro? Am I transferring? Whatever. There's probably better opportunity to stay engaged and locked in. So I do agree with that. And I think that's the upside of the expansion of the all. My only point is not that we shouldn't be doing it. My point is let's not pretend it doesn't, that it comes at no cost. There is a cost, but it's one that I feel like is probably time to pay.

Reese, are you going to be surprised if alabama finds its way into the playoff this year?

I am. Really? Yeah. It's, um and I don't mean that disrespectfully to them. I think they're tough, man. Somebody wrote it perfectly the other day and I wish I had thought of it, is that they have somehow found the way to be the scrappy underdog, yet still the juggernaut. Because of what they built. They've trailed in a bunch of games. Their quarterback is young and coming along very talented and sort of finding his way offensive line was supposed to be a strength. It's not, so I will be surprised. But they've really improved. They're not the same team they were when they played that second saturday night against texas. They're much, much better.

Less than a minute to go here. Reese, has there been a celebrity guest picker that you've been in awe of?

I don't really get in awe, but I'm not like that. But, man, back in the day when I guess it was 2019 when McConaughey came and he came again to the state fair this year was not the guest picker, but he joined us on the show. He's got a scent, right?

He's got a scent.

He's got a great presence about really I really, really enjoyed ken jiang and keegan, michael key. The guys who are professional comedians who then can come into that environment, be entertaining, are pretty impressive.

All right. Check them out this weekend. Salt lake city, utah and oregon college game day. The best show anywhere on TV. Reese, we appreciate the time. Thank you, ma'am.

Thanks, dude. Good to see you guys. Take care.

All right.

Don levitard.

Listen, it could be julius randall's building. How about the mecca ours? Julius the mecca stugats. Steve martin was a prop comic. You said that. I said it 2 seconds earlier than you. This is the don Levitar show with the stugats. All right. Greg cody is in today. Thank you to reese davis for joining us. Dan Orlofsky going to join us in just a little bit. We have some stuff to get to with greg cody. Do you have a back in my day done?

No. You know, dan's not here in the building.

The acronym, right?

Yeah, that whole thing. O WDI only when Dan is in. Thank you for remembering that.

I should be offended by mean, I.

Know, but the worst part is that he has one. Like, he's written one, right? Or you at least have the idea of it.

We talked about it a couple weeks ago.

Yeah, it's certainly not don't get me wrong, it's not an excuse not to do one right.

It sounds like one.

No, we may have one next week.

I think Greg just knows through guys that when you're in, greg has more to give than just a back in my pigeonholed.

Billy knows me.

Right?

Billy knows me.

I don't think I should be upset. I'm not upset. I should be, but I'm not.

Why should you be?

I guess I shouldn't be.

Greg has lots of things to talk about.

What's up with that bracelet?

Oh, I'm glad you asked. This is a bracelet that I bought in Haiti a few years ago. I like to wear it occasionally when I remember to, frankly, because Haiti is going through a terrible time with gangs, violence, crime, and it's overwhelming their police force. And I wish the US government or NATO or somebody would come in and save Haiti because the situation over there is just beyond horrible.

I did not know that's where we were going to go with that.

Well, yeah, it seemed like you guys worked that out.

I honestly thought it was just like it gave off, like, fun bracelet vibes, so I thought maybe there was a fun story behind it.

But that's, I guess, a good serious story. That's a good job.

By Greg.

I mean, there are neighbors. There are Caribbean neighbors. So let's help them.

So you're supporting them?

Well, he's wearing a bracelet.

That's support.

In case anyone asks.

It's his kind of support. Billy Kirk Cousins, huh? Your mean the Vikings are back?

How about God bless football? Four for four on their Billy hit.

Three for three.

Juju gave you Osborne over catches nice the moneymakers yesterday.

That's what I'm saying. You guys just got to listen to us sometimes.

Only you lived in a gambling state.

If only I wouldn't be here today. Would have bet the farm, buster. Only's farm.

Yeah, but your dream of Kirk Cousins being a first ballot hall of Famer is alive, I think, which, by the.

Way, I believe Hawk said that's an idiot take, right?

Very hurtful.

Troy Eggman called him a top ten quarterback yesterday. I believe he was probably talking about present day, which isn't as impressive.

The thing is, the Stu gottz Billy transformation is happening so frequently now. It was first like the same color shorts, right? Then it was like the hat and the sweater. Now what he's done is he's taken. Mike Kirk Cousins'good take and is now completely flown by it, saying he's a know whatever. He's no first ballot hall of Famer.

He put it in a place where you couldn't go any further.

He's.

A first ballot hall of Famer. Right.

I didn't have that. Billy did.

Well, I mean, but it's an idiot.

Take from Billy when I say he's a good quarterback. Now I win.

Right?

Wait, what?

No. Billy wins?

Do you guys not think he's going to be in the hall of Fame at all?

He will be in the hall of Fame. I'm not certain he'll be a first ballot hall of Famer.

Well, his career is not done yet. There's still time to win some trophies, some hardware.

Yeah. I mean, if he wins at Super Bowl, that's the easiest entry point, but thank you. Before last night, he was on a two and ten skid on Monday Night Football.

Yeah, right. But a first ballot hall of Famer. I mean, that's reserved for the all time great.

Yeah. Look, he'll have the numbers, he'll have the thank you. But there's a lot of he already.

Has better numbers than Troy Aikman.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

But there's a lot of quarterbacks who had a lot of touchdowns, a lot of yards. Vinny Testaverti comes to mind odly enough. Who never have a chance for the hall of Fame. I don't know if Cousins is a sure thing.

Let me tell you something, kirk Cousins better than Drew Brees.

Wow. Really? Yes. Wow. He's taking the take even further. Tony, what you got?

Do you not think he's not better? You don't think he's better than Drew Brees?

No, I don't think he's better than.

What did Drew Brees ever do?

Please.

He won one Super Bowl.

He was an excellent quarterback or whatever. 15 years.

Yeah.

What's?

Kirk, he's been a very good quarterback for the last seven his career is not done yet. I agree. We're still in the writing of his career.

But here's the problem that I've encountered. If I'm going to break the fourth wall and be honest here with everyone, the problem that I've encountered is I'll say things right, and when I say things seriously, they're ignored, largely ignored, laughed at, scoffed, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

Right?

I feel that.

And then I'll just say, like, a one throwaway thing to keep things moving, and then they get attached to me for the remainder of my life.

Like Josh Allen.

You see, we weren't even talking about Josh Allen. That has nothing to do with this conversation. But that gets brought up. Kirk Cousins often gets brought up.

But you're saying that Josh Allen, in your comment that he has a funny looking face, was just a transition stupid face.

Yeah, that was a serious thing.

You were just keeping it moving.

It's trying to, because we were caught in the mud that day, and we were going back and forth on the exact same topic over and over again about the Bills, and I was like, how do we get this from point A to point B? You know what I mean? That's the thing I often think of myself as a show conductor of sorts.

You know what I mean?

I'm trying to move things along, get.

From stop to stop conducting.

Exactly right. Keep the train on the tracks is what I'm known for. So that's what I'm trying to do sometimes. And at times when I'm trying to keep things moving, people get distracted by the wrong things and they focus on those things. Like, for example, the Jalen hurts thing. I didn't even say that on the air. I was trying to workshop something with stu gott's off air.

Yeah, but when you're workshopping something, you're preparing to say it.

No, not for me. I was trying to give him that. I was trying to give him that take.

I didn't want it. He gave it back to you.

Then he said that I said something that I never said on the air.

Is that how the sausage is made?

Yes.

Show me that.

I decide which ones I want for Billy and I give the other ones back. I mean, it's a good take by Billy.

It's not. And I didn't want it. I was trying to give it to you, but you so good that he's.

Going to have it whether he wants it or not.

Exactly.

Right.

So now Andrew Hawkins thinks that you're a football idiot because you said first ballot hall of Famer. One trick pony or a genius or.

Hawkins saying to himself right now, wow, I was wrong.

Listen, probably not, guys. We can revisit this take in 15 years. Okay.

All right.

That's when we're going to meet back.

Right here in 15.

Let's meet in Canton.

I hope to not speak to any.

Of you in 15 years, if I'm going to be honest. Really? It was a mean thing to say.

I know. I'm sorry. It was an easy low hang for I'm trying to look up First Battle Hall of Famers so I can see how great this take of mine was.

You're not going to like what you find, Billy. I'm sorry. Greg, what were your thoughts here? We discussed yesterday whether or not we want to be that show that blames officiating for the Dolphins losing to Philadelphia on Sunday night.

I hate that.

You do?

Yeah. People go overboard. There were a couple of calls that were bad calls. The roughing the passer that probably shouldn't have been was certainly arguable. The pass interference call that was not called that involved a face mask grab clearly shown on a replay. That was an egregious missed call. But those things happen both ways. And unless you're implying that the referees had it in for the Dolphins and intentionally made non calls like that, then it's a moot argument. The Dolphins got out physical on both sides of the line, offensive line play and defensive line.

I will push back right there. I rewatched the game yesterday on that cool NFL Network thing where it's on NFL.com where you can just watch an entire game in, like, 20 minutes.

Yeah, it's great.

And the Dolphins front seven, I think, played their best game yesterday, granted. Think about who they're going against. They only got 17 points. The Eagles, they did not run the ball well on the Dolphins. Long Jr. And Baker had their best games of the year. I think you saw Sealer and Wilkins make plays. Obviously, they didn't do enough to win. They were playing against the best offensive line. But I think if you really forget about the results and just watch, I think the defensive line in front seven had one of their better games yesterday.

That's arguable, but that's a fair point. Jalen Phillips back in the lineup, really helped.

First sack on Lane Johnson since 2020.

Yeah, no, you're right. That's a fair comment.

It was crazy.

It was the offensive line play and the lack of the usual running game that hurt. Mike McDaniel and Tua both mentioned that in the post game. The idea that their identity right now is they have to establish the run and the plays off that, the pass plays off that, and they were unable to do that.

I think where they were hurt most on Sunday is where they were injured. The AJ. Brown went off. They're missing their top two corners. We couldn't run the ball. We're missing three of our five offense. With health, I think with health, we know the Dolphins can be in any game against anyone. They just got to be healthy at the right time.

Funny, you think of a running team as a power running team, right. But the Dolphins are more of a finesse running team trying to get to the outsides, which is why it was so tough when they would run in that C gap. Like Chris Collinsworth would say, all of a sudden, hassan Reddicks, they're like, hey, guys, I'm here. And he would add 77 tackles.

Yeah. And the injury to Devon Achan has really hurt them as well. He was closing in on CJ Stroud in the Rookie of the Year race before he was injured. I think the game in Kansas City is going to be such a it's in Europe.

It's in.

Kansas City.

I'm sorry.

I meant we discussed yesterday that Germany does not deserve such a great game. They should get Bears, Saints or something like that, because right now it seems.

To me that Philadelphia and Kansas City are way up here, and the Dolphins are in a group with Baltimore, San Francisco, and a few other teams in that second tier. Yeah, absolutely.

You have San Francisco going down to that second tier. I think it's like we're doing this thing. We're crushing the Dolphins right now for being injured. The 49 ers last night were missing. Trent Williams, Devo Samuel. Right now, because of the result last night, we have to put the Dolphins and the Niners. But I think with health you can put the Niners and Dolphins in that category. Obviously, we're dealing with a small sample size right now, so it's easy to say what you're saying. But I think that those teams are when healthy in that conversation.

But that's the reason I love football more than any other sport. When you're playing 162 game season or an 81 game season, it feels like no one game really matters at all. When you're playing a twelve or 17 game season, they all matter. They all matter. And everything takes on great weight. So, yeah, you do rethink everything based on what happens Sunday or Monday, but absolutely. The Dolphins are still a Super Bowl contender, just as I thought they were before the season.

A chain is averaging twelve yards per carry.

It's insane.

It's insane.

He's as fast as Tyree kill.

My dad found a third way to say his name. A chan. It's a chan. I thought first it was a chan, right? And then he's like, I want it to be A chan, and threw a flourish on it. H ann.

Okay. I want it to be h rain. That's what I have.

Let's have him on.

Well, he's injured.

Thing to say at the end there. Let's have him on.

No, just ask him.

Book him.

Just ask him the pronunciation of his name. Not to talk about football.

Oh, wait, he's actually right here.

There you go. Come on in.