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This is The Don Levator Show with the Stu Guts podcast.

So here's what we have for you this week. You're staring at it. We have Bill Billy, who's on jury duty. We'll get to that in a second. We have Dan and Mike out in La. They're covering the Chargers game for us. Also, the exclusive sit down with George Sedano. So you are left with me, Chris, Roy, Jess and Tony. And I am thrilled about that. There are two rules for those of you who have not been here when Dan is not here and I'm here, left to my own devices, two rules. One, have fun. The second rule is treat this like a lazy river.

The lazy river.

Yes.

Because I have told you guys for years, when you hop on the lazy river, especially the one at the Atlantis, okay, because it's got rapids, it's not your typical lazy river. You let the river take you where it takes you. If you fight the river, if you try to go against the rapids, you don't have a good time, but you have fun when you let the river just take you where the river wants to take you. And that's what I would like you guys to treat this show like this week.

You know what I like? I like it when you get up against the wall in the lazy river and with your foot, you just give a little kick. Just a little like, let me get myself going a little more.

Kick yourself off.

Just a little. Kick it off the wall. Just like, I don't know where I'm going next, but I'm just giving a little kick.

But that's not letting the river take you where it takes you. And this week, I would like you guys just to let the river take you. If it takes you to a wall, it takes you to a wall. Don't kick off the wall. That's where the river wanted to take you. Embrace the wall.

Wow.

Yeah.

Tube or noodle?

All right, tube.

Sure.

Tube.

No.

Tube.

Tube.

Noodle. You can't really move around in a noodle, right?

Yeah.

The thing is, most people go butt in the center of the tube. All your extremities kind of overlapping over the top of it. Me, I go up through the bottom of it, my upper torso above, whatever, this thing what is this? Where are we?

The tube.

The tube.

He's in rare form this morning. I'm telling you right now.

My legs are like I'm like a duck underwater.

Do not paddle.

That's true. Right. Just let the river take you where it takes you, Chris. That's it. Okay. Stop fighting the river. Jess, what do you prefer?

I like four noodles under my knees and like, two behind my back. And I'm like, kind of semi drowning the whole time. Fighting it a little, but I'm floating.

Seems a little inefficient. If it's a crowded, lazy river because people are wanting to borrow. Like, you can't have four tubes. You ever have that thing where there's, like, a weight, a line for the tubes? You ever had, like, a really popular, lazy river?

Yes.

And as you're getting out, you're handing your tube to someone else. I don't like that.

Why?

In a perfect world like Jess, I could have seven tubes.

Right.

But it's like you got to just make do with one.

Usually. Wait, but you don't like sharing your tube. You're getting out of the river so someone else.

Are these things sanitary? How does this work? I know I'm in a pool. I know chlorine's involved, but it's just like my chest has just been on this tube for about two straight hours, handing it to this, like, eight year old kid.

Okay. I prefer a tube. I will be honest with you guys. As I get older, it's really difficult getting into the tube. Yeah, it's hard. What technique do you use to get into the tube?

Well, if you have the stairs, I.

Have to do it in very shallow water. If you have the stairs, you have to plop right.

Little jump backwards into the thing.

Right.

But it's like you said, it can be a messy situation.

What do you guys think of the double tube?

Yeah, double tube to yourself.

You're saying double tube to yourself. You got the legs in the front tube, you're in the back tube, and you're just kind of like riding it.

I don't like it when you're doing it with your spouse or something. And my legs, all of a sudden, my wife's legs are just over my shoulder. It's like, get over here.

Get your own tube.

I don't need to do this double thing.

I don't need your feet in your face. Right. Get out of here.

And then you start spinning.

Chris, were you nervous? Down 14 nothing?

First quarter yesterday, every Dolphins fan, you were. I'm telling you, I got the text from, like, 15 people. Every Dolphins fan was telling you how confident they were down 14 nothing.

Right.

I'll admit I was a little nervous.

Yeah.

Because I didn't take the Dolphins in this game. I did feel like they were due to play a close game. That's a big number to cover. I didn't think they would lose the game. I wanted to bet them when they were down 14 nothing, but they were still almost -200. Down 14 nothing.

Right.

So Vegas was not on to the Panthers when they were up 14 nothing.

You had a thiel and they would win.

Good morning.

No, you sit right there.

I love you.

Good joke.

You know, Jeremy, they wanted me to invite Adam Thielen into studio today because they have the bye week. Now they're owing six. Like, I'm not bothering that. I know. He's having the best season he's ever had.

Amazing.

I know, but he's owing six.

This is actually an interesting question we could have had with him today.

What?

I bet Adam Thielen is loving this season.

Absolutely.

Why? Because he's having a great season.

I'm not saying he's not a team guy. I'm just saying he's having a huge.

Bounce and the Vikings are bad, too.

A resurgence I would say he's having. And it's just it's got to feel good. I mean, obviously, if we had him in here, he would say all the right things. But he's got to be loving life.

Right now, especially with the Vikings being bad. Like, if the Vikings were good and winning without him and Justin Jefferson was having the spectacular season and all the guys who replaced him were playing really well, then maybe he'd be feeling like, all right, it's just stats and we're losing, but the Vikings are horrible.

Are we playing happiest guy in a losing.

Chris, that is letting the river take you where it takes you. Okay, if that's the game we're playing, let's play it. Who is the happiest guy in a losing team? Who is it? Is it Adam Thielen?

We're all in with Adam Thielen right now. That's the leader in the clubhouse.

Who can beat Adam Thielen?

Malik Cunningham.

Who?

Malik Cunningham. The backup quarterback in New England who's now all of a sudden getting a no.

I'll get to belichick in a second.

That made me so happy seeing them run like an option offense.

Yes.

I'm just like, this is beautiful.

Right. But, Tony, what were you telling me right before we came on air about Josh McDaniels?

I'm so sick of Josh McDaniels. Like, how does he not get it after being an archetype for an offense with Brady that broke all these records and was an incredible offense.

Right.

He's playing to lose.

Right.

He's in 1987. Let's run the ball. We've got no timeouts. We've got two minutes left on the clock. Let's just run the game out. And then he runs it into the back of the line like three times, punts the ball and gives the Patriots a chance to win. Luckily, Max Crosby had that backdoor cover sack, which was huge for everybody.

Great. Yes, it was massive.

But I'm looking at him saying, Josh, how do you just not get it just year after year after year not get it? By the way, the rare, like, seven x revenge game. There was a lot of guys from the Patriots on that Raiders team. Yes, we got the revenge.

Yeah.

Who's the offensive genius from like, six years ago that's looking at Mike McDaniel and like Sean McVeigh.

Like, I was you Josh McDaniel.

That's what I mean. Who are the Josh McDaniel? The other Josh Payton?

Yeah.

They're just like, oh, you think you have it good. It'll end for you soon.

I was you enemy.

Yeah. He's going to be the next head coach of the commanders, though, I think, right? Is he? I feel like he is your offense.

Looks pretty good, actually, sam Howell, because of exactly.

But when they didn't look good, it was because of him, too, right?

No, but, Tony, I think you go to a place like Washington with Sam Howell, and you say, hey, it wasn't just Patrick Mahomes. It was me, too. I can make Sam Howell good. I can make anyone good. So that was, like, a good move by by Eric B. Enemy. But here's the cool thing about the Dolphins. I think the Dolphins are the best team in the NFL. I really do. Now, I'm saying that again, please. I think the Dolphins are the best team in the NFL. Now I'm saying it coming off a very surprising Sunday in which you had the Philadelphia Eagles lose to the jets, right. And you had the San Francisco 49 ers lose to the Cleveland Browns without Deshaun Watson. But the beautiful thing about the Dolphins is I'm not a Dolphin fan, but I bet the Dolphins yesterday and at no point even down 14 to nothing, which for me is being down 27 and a half to nothing. Because I had the Dolphins -13 and a half I was not nervous. What are you guys laughing at? I was down 27 and a half to nothing, and I was not nervous at all.

I knew the Dolphins would cover. The Dolphins have the best team in the NFL.

That is the worst feeling when you have a huge favorite and the other team scores first, then you start doing that math.

It's just like, God, right.

We got a lot of points to score here.

I don't believe you, though.

You had to be nervous.

I was not 27 and a half to nothing.

I'm telling you, I was not nervous. I mean, you have every reason and every right to call me a liar, but I am telling you, I was not nervous in that spot because your offense is so good, especially at home.

Stu the Dolphins are in this rare era now that we used to have with the Kansas City Chiefs, like, two or three years ago, where no matter what the score is, you're like, okay, they can come. Like, you don't have that many teams that live in that era like that live in that bubble.

But I'm telling you, every year we have a best offense in the NFL. That's not rare. What the Dolphins doing is rare because they're leading in rushing and passing. I crunched the numbers last night.

Wow.

There has not been like the offense that's got closest to this, I think was the Cowboys in 2019. Yes, they were second in passing, 8th in rushing.

But you're saying you crunched the numbers like you came up with this stat. You just read it off of something.

No, I started going back every year in the oh, you did it.

You did the year by year.

I went all the way back to four.

Right.

No team ever is in the top five in both. Since four, no team has been in the top five. The dolphins are leading in. I don't know if it's sustainable, but it is not only just the best offense in football, it is the best offense in decades.

What's?

The numbers I did, I was like, I need answers.

You're not buying it, Roy. We've known this creature for a while.

I need answers. I was like, this doesn't make sense. This seems too good to be true. There has to be another offense that's been like this in recent years. Nothing close.

What does you crunching the numbers.

Look like me.

Christy.

Hey, honey. Like, get in the room. I'm about to crunch some numbers on number crunch.

It's just me on a computer just flipping through some looking busy years.

Flipping through some years.

Pro football reference. Clicking like the next season.

That's right. Exactly.

Yeah, but none of us believe you.

Go look up all the team stats. Go find me the last time a team was leading in rushing and passing. I know it's only six weeks, but it just doesn't happen.

Well, why do I need to look it up? Because you were crushing the numbers. You're doubting me, I know, but you crunch the numbers. So just tell me.

I'm not going to crush them anymore.

Right?

Not going to crunch any more numbers.

Oh, that's too bad.

Really?

This is how I get treated when I do it.

What do you mean?

Try to do a little work, a little research for the show. And that's how I get treated.

There is an article here from Bleacher Report from 2019 going through some of the best offenses of all time and where they ranked, and none of them were top in both rushing and passing. There are some that finished in the top five, but when you look at that, it's like the seven Patriots. It's the 2011 New Orleans.

Yeah, but they didn't finish in the top five in both.

No, but if you look at the 99 St. Louis Rams, right, they led the league in passing yards per game. They were fifth in rushing yards per game. The Broncos, who in 2013, with Peyton Manning, yeah, they led in passing yards, but they were 13th in rushing. So to be able to put both together, there are some here that are, like, right around the top five in both both. But it would be insane if they finished at the very top of the league in both of those stats.

The funny thing is, too, it's like when they're talking to Mike McDaniels like, yeah, we didn't run as much last year. And then he's like, you know what? What if we just try running? And now they're number one in the league and running, too.

How does this work?

He gets everybody just open and everybody wide open. Running lanes, they make it look so easy.

I mean, they really do. Which is why when I'm down 27 and a half to nothing, I'm not sweating the Dolphins at all. I'm just not.

And let's play the game. Let's nitpick. They've been bad on short yardage situations. They had one of the weirdest plays I've ever seen yesterday on third and one, where they just decided to chuck, you didn't like the fake five yards back. Did you see that play? Third and one.

What was the score?

They were down, actually, I think this is early.

That's the only reason you, like, might.

Have been nothing at the time. This was early in the game. Third and one. They could just run the ball. They try to do it. They they got too cute is what they did. And then they had to punt the ball.

It was like a fake brotherly shove kind of thing. But then Tua took a step in and then threw it backwards as Raheem Mosa was running the opposite way.

It was like, Wait a second.

Where's the ball?

Why are we busting that out against the Panthers? I like that style.

You got to bust that's exactly. The place you busted out is against the Panthers, down 14 to nothing.

Save that stuff for the real games.

You got to practice it against the terrible team. So that way, when you play against the Bills or the jets or whatever in your division, you can use it.

Don Lebotard. Did you watch me at NC State? I was all ACC. I don't have necessarily the mobility, but no one can see over the lines like me.

Michael the ACC network job is a good job.

It's a stable. I'm ready to pack it in. I've got a lot of good football left in me. My footwork is underrated. I could step up in the pocket with the best of them. No one can scan the field like me.

But wouldn't it be nice to be around the family more often and not have to worry about any injuries?

Babe, just give me one more season. Still got tell you what, I'm not going to therapy. I'm not. Therapy is not happening. Sorry. You need to work on you. There's one person pulling the rope for this family right here, and it's Mike Glennon. This is The Don Levatar Show with The Stugats.

Jess, why'd you make a face when he said that wasn't a real game?

I don't know. I mean, I owe Chris Cody a lot this weekend. We went to highlight on Friday night. He told me. So when you go to highlight, you get, like, a few free bet slips. And so between me and Lehman, we had, like, eight of them, and we were like, we don't know who to bet on Chris Cody. What should we do? He told us, this is the one. Put all your bets on this guy. We put all eight free bets on one guy $180. Why owe Chris Cody today?

It wasn't really even our guy I was going with. It was the other team's person I was going against. I was like, this loser is not going to win anything. Not saying the name.

This has to be illegal.

Not saying the name.

No, this was at magic city casino.

This was all personal, like inside your trading. Roy, I'm with you.

Yeah, no, I'm allowed to bet, too. They give me fake money, too, to bet. It's a weird thing with highlight where it's legal to bet if you're in a DraftKing state, but if you're not, there's something about when you're there, I don't know the laws behind.

So hold on. You bet fake money and win real money?

Yeah. Because you're unable because we're unable to place real money bets. I guess they want to make let people feel like they're in the action. So they just hand out essentially fake dollars.

They're handing out cash at high lie is what you're saying. Really?

You have to bet.

You have to pick a winner. You might not win, but Chris Cody gave us really good intel. And I'm assuming most people that go don't really have a scouting, they don't have a Chris Cody on any of the players. So I credit to Chris. I agree with everything he says today. I agree with his numbers crunching. I agree the Panthers aren't a real game. Chris won me $80 on Friday and.

The Cyclones won the night, too. Jets won and the Cyclones won. It was a good night on Friday.

Were you guys more surprised by the jets beating the Eagles or the Niners losing to the Cleveland Browns because the jets beating the Eagles? It might be the greatest moment for me as a Jet fan since they went to the AFC championship game with Mark Sanchez. I called my daughter. I did.

You mean after Aaron Rodgers came to the jets like that was the greatest moment for you since the AFC championship game? That was a celebration. But since the injury, what would rank higher for you? The feeling of when Aaron Rodgers said he was going to be a Jet or that actual win over the Philadelphia Eagles?

I think the win over the Eagles oh, stop it. What do you mean?

Wait a minute. You're happier yesterday than when Aaron signed with the jets.

That's not true. Don't lie to yourself.

Hold on a second. You asked me a question, I gave you an answer, and then you called me a liar.

So you're lying to yourself?

No.

So you think you're being honest?

No, I'm in the moment, Chris, okay? And I was nervous to have 14 nothing Carolina PJ.

Walker winning was the most impressive thing there.

He played.

I was more expecting the jets to compete against the Eagles than the Browns with PJ. Walker.

Are you upset? You think Dolphin fans are upset because they wanted the Eagles undefeated right now? The jets, it takes a little juice off of that game. It does. Just a little bit.

It also takes a little pressure away from the Dolphins.

Really?

I like it.

No, the jets beat just I don't.

Know, I just feel like there's no more undefeated teams. Everyone's lost a little bit. The Dolphins have the most impressive teams. All you other good teams have lost.

To is that what you're doing? Best player on a losing team. Just saying who has the most impressive.

Loss to the jets?

Right?

Who the Chiefs lose to?

I have no idea.

Lions are also lions are good.

That's a good loss. Can't believe I'm saying it. Lions are good.

Lineup like Super Bowl.

Good.

Defense is good. That's the thing.

They're really good.

Yeah.

Doesn't it put more pressure on the Dolphins because you haven't played the jets yet. You play them twice closer to the end of the schedule. So now you know they're a team with a really good defense that can beat you without Aaron Rodgers.

And as Solace said, they've embarrassed every quarterback they've played.

It's true. I mean, they have they have a.

Really good defensive line.

Guys, this is why Aaron chose the jets. No one ever chooses our franchise. The all time greats. They don't choose our franchise. Bret Favre wanted to go to Minnesota. The packers said no. They traded him to the jets. They didn't want to trade him inside the division. So he used the jets as a bridge to get himself to Minnesota. Guys like Aaron Rodgers do not choose the jets. No one chooses the jets. But the reason he wanted to come here was because the defense is championship good. Championship good. I saw him throwing on the field yesterday, okay? I think he was without a boot. No crutches, nothing. Do me a favor. Don't rush back. There is something about this team. There's something happening in New York. I don't know what it is, but don't rush back. Zach Wilson's doing? Just fine. That was one of the great moments for me as a Jet fan that I've ever had.

We have video of Rogers throwing sideline. Let me see here. Let me evaluate this. I'll tell you how close he is to coming back.

Let's see here. All right, there he is.

No limp. Doesn't seem to be limping.

No.

Let's see. Push off that.

Guys, you don't understand. That is incredible. That is not human for three weeks after an Achilles surgery. My dad had Achilles surgery eleven weeks ago.

He still can't walk. Right.

Do you think Aaron goes back into the locker room after this? He's just like, oh, that hurt.

Oh, man.

Do you guys get the video?

Look good.

Did you get it?

Tell me when I'm done. Yeah. When can I go back inside?

The amount of pain medication that he took for this video right. A poor guy.

This is setting up assuming, which is a humongous assumption, he can play at the end of the season.

How?

And that's why I'm saying it's a humongous assumption. I don't think it's ever happened before. If Zach Wilson actually gets you in the playoffs, you can't bench Zach Wilson for Aaron Rodgers.

You can't do that.

What if you do and then he loses?

Quarterback controversy.

Wait, so hold on.

The scenario chaos at stake here.

The scenario is Zach Wilson gets you to the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is healthy and ready to go and you're not putting in Aaron Rodgers because you want to ride Zach Wilson because he got you to the playoffs. You can't do that to Zach, right.

Or you do put in Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers loses.

The narrative is insane.

Fire and flames everywhere.

That's what I want. I've just decided that's the best case scenario for this NFL season.

You want Aaron to replace Zach, you want Zach to get him to the playoffs, aaron to come in and then Aaron to lose the playoff game.

Absolutely, yes.

You think Zach wants that? He becomes the most popular guy in New York City.

Right.

That's the best backup quarterback situation that there's ever been. The clamoring for him, instead of yelling Tebow, they're yelling Wilson.

Can we dissect one of the weirdest things I've ever seen Tua do?

Sure.

It was before the game. CBS Sports just like one of those stereotypical, not going to say anything interviews before a game. How are you feeling about today's game? So we're not even going to play most of the interview. We're just going to play the last 30 seconds. But Tua does something at the end of this interview that is just weird. Let's play this the same way you.

Prepare for any other team and this team is no different.

Thanks so much for the time today.

Good luck. Thank you.

Appreciate it. And as the Panthers look to get their first win of the season, they're going to have to do it without their starting running back.

And I know for the podcast audience.

As soon as he says goodbye to.

Her, he walks behind her and photobombs essentially his own interview. Like, is there friends behind him? I love how comfortable he is. After this interview, they fall behind 14 nothing. I would have had some real questions about his focus going into this game, sure. But they turned it around, so I'm not going to talk about that. But just can anyone explain to me what Tua might have been doing there?

It looks like the door behind him is not the door he's supposed to go into. So he realizes that right after and he's like, oh, this is not the door that I need to be walking into, and then turns around.

I think Tony's right. Can we see it again? Because Tony, I think you're actually right.

We're going to play it here without the sound this time just because I don't feel like the audio is just not important here. So they're doing an interconducting it.

Yes.

We're going to have a great day.

He's in the tunnel, got his coffee.

It's a great look. All right, see you later. Walk it back and he's like, yo.

Yes. Fist bump.

That's like what I do when I strike in bowling.

Right there.

He's just like, yes, and then brings it home.

Is that what you do?

It's just like the hand goes up when you think it's going to be a strike and then once all the pins go down.

Do you wear like a collared shirt at bowling?

No, like a bowling? No. Some people do. Like there's a bunch of teams that have full uniforms.

You go standard T, right?

Yeah, we just have regular.

I think he saw someone he thought he recognized and then realized he didn't recognize them, it was someone else and tried to fake it for the camera. Like he knew what he was doing the whole time. Like he was just saying hi to someone.

It went from a wave to a fist bump.

No.

Hey, hello there. That's no one I know.

Fist bump.

I think Tony's right, that he notices that the door is not the door he's supposed to be walking into. He goes to call for help, but then realizes, oh, they're still finishing up this report.

So he's stuck in the moment, stuck in the shot.

So he realizes, oh, God, I'm on camera. So let me give a little fist bump in the background for everybody so they can see I'm really excited.

He definitely thought no one saw it, too. Chris Cody's the only one who was like, hold on a second. Hold on a second.

Wait. But I want to hear Chris's takes if the dolphins have lost.

I'm just saying, I'm looking at this video much differently if they don't come.

What are you saying today?

I just want to focus.

Got to focus, right?

What's in that? Coffee is what I'm saying. Little too excited. Why are you so just out of character before a game?

Right?

See, I'm saying a lot, but they won.

So you have no questions about the coffee.

Totally good with it.

Got it.

Great. Like to have you want to be a little balanced on a game day.

Focus, right? Exactly.

I like coffee.

Seems like an OD thing to drink before a game. Just for me. It does.

Coffee. Are you trying to clear yourself out? Maybe before the game?

I mean, coffee, caffeine, little caffeine energy.

You don't drink caffeine before you work out, ever.

You have me working out. Work out.

But I think fair if you drink coffee normally my wife gets headaches when she doesn't drink coffee so much.

I can't not drink coffee.

That's what I mean. So people that are used to coffee need to do it or else they're going to have a headache. We don't want two with a headache.

Little coffee, little heater. Get your nicotine, get. Your caffeine in, get you focused for the game.

I'm an afternoon coffee guy. I got to be honest. I don't drink coffee in the morning. Afternoons for me.

You need a little pick me up before your three hour drive back to Orlando. I got you, Stu.

Little double espresso.

A lot of athletes drink coffee before games. There was a formula one driver a few weeks ago who was on the radio, who was like, I had a coffee before this. I feel great, man. And his engineer was like, okay, jimmy.

Butler drinks twelve cups of coffee every day.

Yeah, but he has to. I mean, it's his company. He's promoting his brand.

It sounds like he's genuinely addicted to.

I'm also calling BS on that.

Twelve cups.

Jesus.

I like the idea of Tua walking out that door and then being in a place where he can't get back in.

He walks in, he's like, oh, shit.

Like, outside of the stadium.

All of a sudden he's like, where's all my stuff?

He's locked out. Mike White's playing quarterback.

They're like, we can't find tua. Where is he?

I still would have been fined, out 27 and a half to nothing if Mike white were the quarterback.

Speaking of bowling, I'm pretty sure I saw videos this weekend of Tua bowling nicely. I need to get him on my team. I saw a couple of strikes. I think javon holland or no, moster, I think, had some charity event at a bowling alley. And tua sneaky. Good bowler. I saw a couple strikes.

But if they lost that game, you would have blasted him for being at.

That be crunching film during that time.

Wrecking your arm.

No.

The good news was I noticed this because I was super concerned about tua bowling, and he was bowling with his right hand to make yeah, he was not bowling with his left arm. Not going to hurt the negotiation.

That's contractually. A negotiation has to be.

You have that as a clause in his contract.

Also, our friend rohan did a story with Jimmy Butler recently for sports illustrated, and in that story, he asked Jimmy if he'd be willing to give up coffee for a year in exchange for an NBA title. The direct quote, hell no for an NBA title. Hell no.

Wow.

I wouldn't give up coffee for an.

NBA title either if you were an NBA basketball player. It's the one missing thing from his resume.

People who drink coffee need coffee.

Stugats, he needs a ring.

Needs coffee more?

I don't think so.

Put it on the poll.

Ring or coffee? What does Jimmy Butler need most?

Don Libertard. I read his lips, and it sounded like he was saying, what, you want to fight me now?

But I'm telling you, if you look, we can play a game right now. The lips look the same on fight you and failure. Watch my lips. I'm going to turn off my mic.

No, I got.

And I want you guys to tell me if I'm saying fight you.

Yeah.

Or failure.

Okay. Yeah.

Still got. Why are your ideas always so bad?

For the podcast. Here we go. Do it again.

Fight.

You fight.

Maybe you can't tell.

Oh, my god.

We got to the bottom of it.

This is the Don Levitar show with the stu gats.

All right, we have some breaking news this morning.

We do?

Everyone comes to me for breaking news. It is not football news. The marlins, the Miami marlins and Kim ang have parted ways.

Really?

That is shocking news to me, especially after the marlins made the playoffs this season. Jeremy, what is the latest on this?

Yeah, I was really surprised when I saw this news this morning. The statement from Bruce Sherman, the principal owner of the marlins, says, the Miami marlins announced today that Kim aang will not be returning as the club's general manager. Although the club exercised its team option for her to return for the 2024 season, kim has declined her mutual option. We thank Kim for her contributions during her time with our organization and wish her and her family well. And then they go on to say they'll be trying to capitalize off the momentum of the season and building toward next year.

I'm pretty sure she's eyeing a better job.

Yeah, I mean, it does.

She went out on top.

There is obvious surprise around this in the fact that Kim ang came in here as a first time general manager. There were some struggles at the beginning, as any first time general manager would have. There were contracts this season that I think a lot of folks sort of thought might cost Kim her job. Toward the beginning of the year, when you saw guys like Johnny Quaido and the way that was working out, gene segura, the way that was working out. When the marlins spend money and it doesn't work, there's obvious reason for change, because that's the way they do things. On the same note, those signings ultimately were parlayed into other moves that Kim meng made at this deadline that were spectacular, that got the marlins not only in position to make the playoffs this season, but build toward the future. Josh bell, who he also is someone looking at an option going into this next season. He may opt out, but Jake berger, who's now a staple of this roster going forward, she made the trade of Pablo lopez for Luis arias, which worked out for both squads. Obviously, Lopez pitched really well in the playoffs for Minnesota, but Luis arias changed everything about the way that this marlins offense worked.

She was a huge part of hiring skip schumacher, who we all agree is a great manager for the marlins, and they worked hand in hand in sort of building the identity of this. I'm really, really surprised that this happened.

Are you surprised when I tell you the mets job is open?

I mean, I guess not. I don't know where Kim is going to end up. And the other part of this that we don't know yet and there's more reporting to be done is how far along did these sides get in the extension conversations before it became, hey, we're just going to exercise our option for one more season? Because that's always the conversation when you're looking at people with mutual options, is having a conversation about an extension and where's the money there? I don't know the answer to that. And maybe Kim just saw all of these other positions open and said, you know what, it's time for a different challenge. She lived in New York for a really long time. Maybe that's a spot where she would want to go. I don't know. All of that is sort of speculation from here, but it is intriguing and it was certainly surprising.

Is it a lily pad thing where maybe she's using the Marlins and making a playoff appearance to lily pad herself to another job? Is it strictly a money thing? Or maybe she can go and prove, hey, look, proof of concept here with the marlins. We made the playoffs after x amount of years. I can go to your team and do better than what we have here.

Potentially. I think the other part of it that's interesting is, look, the conversation going into the end of the season was that people were unsure whether or not Kim ang would be back. And a lot of us sort of thought it was dependent on whether or not the Marlins made the playoffs.

I feel like there's a job out.

There for 100%, no doubt, and I don't think that there is one. Declined her option if there wasn't an opportunity to go get another job. And from the marlins perspective, look, their.

View probably this is a bad day for the Marlins.

Yeah, I mean, look, this is a bad day, but on the same token, their view is likely, hey, we offered our part of the option. She didn't want to be here anymore. We have this foundation that she helped us build, and now this should be a pretty attractive job. When you look at it. There are actually a lot of pieces that you can build around a team that now has a young manager that embraces analytics, but is also sort of the old school mentality. He embraces his players. Everybody really likes him. You're not coming into a situation like before where this is just a straight up losing franchise. There's been clearly effort made to be a winning franchise here. They spent some money at the deadline. I am surprised. This is something that certainly caught me off guard when we were in our pre production meeting and I was late driving into work today.

You weren't late. You missed the entire thing.

Yeah, no, I missed the entire thing.

I walked in here as you guys.

Were already recording and then made a really terrible pun about Adam Thielen.

But you do.

Yeah, that's what I do. But when I saw the news, when Craig mish tweeted out that this was happening, I was startled. And if you looked at Twitter, I mean, everybody lost their minds over this. The reaction was, what is happening? And when you now find out, okay, kim declined her end of the option. That makes it interesting because this is not the Marlins firing somebody and saying, hey, we don't want to spend the money on you. At least we think maybe those extension conversations are the reason to say this feels rare, though.

Why are you mad?

The GM's just like, I'm good.

There's a better job out there. There are several better jobs out there.

Was really good. This bad?

We know.

No, I'm just saying but I don't know. Is she going to get the Mets?

I think she did a good enough job down here in Miami with a lousy organization.

Oh, I'm not saying she's incapable of saying I'm not saying did the work she did here.

Is she the next I think she's coveted.

Yes, she must be, because it's such an OD move to just be like, I'm good.

But, Jeremy, I mean, you're on the inside with this team. So you follow this team. You love this team. You would agree, right? She's coveted in Major League Baseball. Yeah.

Kim did a great job. I think that you can nitpick little things about the way that the roster was built in her time here. But if we look back, the worst signing was the Avisayo Garcia signing, and that was Derek Jeter straight up there's, reporting from Barry Jackson back then. That it was. He had breakfast with Avisayo Garcia, looked in his eyes and knew he should be a Miami marlin and then left during the lockout. So Derek Jeter brought Kim Aang in. This is the other part that you can question is, does Bruce Sherman want any sort of Derek Jeter remnants around this? That's outside of Kim ang? That's gone now. And so, look, this is one where there needs to be a lot more reporting on how far the extension conversations went. Because if this was just simply about mutual options and Kim deciding to leave, and there was never a conversation about an extension, then you could also make the argument, why wasn't there a conversation about an extension?

That gets me thinking. So Avicel Garcia had breakfast with Derek Jeter, and he signed him to a what deal? What was the deal?

Terror years. 53 million, I think.

Four years, $53 million.

Okay. A terrible deal, chris said.

Terrible deal.

Yes.

What if you had a shot? One breakfast for your life for four years, $56 million.

Do you crush that breakfast or what?

Yes.

What do they have?

What a great job of letting the show take you where it takes you. I'm so proud of you, man.

Wait, if you do you mean crush the breakfast, as in whatever that might.

Make you lose out on whatever Avicel.

Garcia did do that.

Did he eat?

Did he have a cigarette with breakfast?

What did Jeter see in him be like, you know what? This is my guy. What would you do?

Are you saying they're pulling the deal back because he's eating too much?

I ordered pancakes. I ordered the full breakfast. I got bacon, scrambled eggs, toast. I finished all of it.

And they're like, OOH, this girl could play some baseball.

He's hungry.

No, you're right. You're costing yourself money.

You got to hit 29 home runs for the brewers in 2021. That's what you got to do.

I don't worry about that.

You got to get, like, the Denver Omelet.

I think he had a year, though.

Chris, and that's it.

The Denver omelet.

Keep it simple.

Egg whites?

No, he's had eleven home runs. Eleven home runs in two seasons with the Marlins.

Really?

It's about the breakfast, Chris. Do you think that he was staring at Jeter and then every time Jeter would eat, he would take a bite to, like, match Jeter? Because you can't eat more than Jeter, right? Because it's disrespectful less than Jeter either.

Do you just hit him with I'll have what he's having.

This article from Christina Dina Cola on December 1, 2021, right after Garcia signed a couple of weeks ago over breakfast with Avesial Garcia Marlin CEO Derek Jeter made sure to look the veteran outfielder in the eyes. What did he see? A player buying into what the organization is building.

Eaten toast.

What kind of eyes did he give him?

What was the offer?

It's four years. $53 million.

He sold $53 million.

This restaurant definitely had ice in its orange juice.

Yeah. You don't like that, do you?

No.

Do you like pulp?

I'm okay with some pulp.

I like pulp.

I love pulp.

I need pulp for you.

I want so much pulp that I need to eat it with a spoon.

Yeah.

High in fiber.

I want to have to chew my orange juice.

You want, like, pulp in your teeth? Like, three months later?

I want it to be the most sludgy timeout consistency orange juice you've ever.

Just mud put it on the pole? Do you want to chew your orange juice?

I want my orange juice to be a solid.

You want to drink it like soup. You want to fork and a knife?

I want a fork and a knife for my orange juice. I want to put my orange juice.

So you want an orange and cut.

It with a knife?

Will you peel that daredevil's, like, give her an orange. I'll take the orange juice.

I'm not getting the 50 with I $3 million at breakfast. They're watching me eat, and they're saying, oh, I don't know about her.