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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference.

Seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now here's The Marching Man to Nowhere, Fatface, and The Habitual Liar.

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I should clarify, Virginia Tech did play Florida State earlier this year, and that was maybe another one that Florida State escaped because made a late run, made it a game, questionable call there. It seemed as though that result sparked Virginia Tech into being one of these annoying ACC teams. Every year, the ACC Championship is a team. I see how they got there. Another team that you're confused is all hell. How the hell did they make it? You would think when they got rid of divisions in the ACC, you would get the whole coastal element out of its system. Now what happened is it's just all one big coastal and they're all beating each.

Other up. I don't think that anyone nationally thinks anything of the ACC other than Clemson for I don't know how long. Florida State has just recently developed something that feels like national power stuff. But the ACC has not been something that's been birthing schools that anyone fears.

I agree. And if Florida State loses at home to Miami, which is a possibility, I think they're going to take a precipitous drop. They're not going to get the benefit of doubt and drop two or three spots and still be in contention for the CFP. If F. S. U. Loses, I can see them dropping to 10 and no longer being considered a player.

They're just waiting for them to lose, to stumble, right?

I think so. I think so. Yeah.

Does Greg Cody have a back in my day?

It's Tuesday.

He's right. So yes. Yeah, of course.

Why wouldn't he? You asked again. Why are you surprised?

Yeah, because it has been inconsistent recently. Yeah, sure has. Thank you. Before we get to the back in my day and before we get to Lucy's coverage from the world's biggest cocktail party, you, for some reason, have been lamenting the placement of Cheez-It in your grocery store. Oh, my God. Well, what's happening here? Did you have trouble finding them? Where does this lament come from?

All right, I've become infatuated with Cheez-It lately.

Instantly, it's become my favorite snack. I'm not exaggerating. I spent 15 minutes going up and down my potato chip snack aisle three different times slowly scrutinizing every bag looking for Cheez-It, could not find them, left thinking that my storage just doesn't carry Cheezets. My wife tells me, Oh, dummy, they're on the cracker aisle. Right.

They also come in a box.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Cheezets should be on the potato chip aisle with bag snacks.

But they're not.

Potato chips. And they're not bagged.

They're.

Crackers. They're bagged.

They're not bagged. They're in a box. Cheez-its are in a bag. They here are hundreds of.

Them in a bag. They're in a bag. Yeah.

Cheesets are in a bag.

In a bag? In a bag. But it's a.

Bag in a bag.

Yeah, there's a box.

Around the bag. They should be in the snack aisle. Everybody within the sound of my voice is nodding like a bubble, and.

Agreeing with it. There's six people disagreeing with you. Literally, everyone in here is disagreeing with you, though. Even me.

Which is odd. Cheeset on the potato.

Chip aisle. Do you know how odd it is for you to lose Billy? Billy here supports all things Greg Cody in a way that has been insincere for a damn year and a decade. What?

I'm not.

Telling you. No, Billy gets me normally, but not in.

This case. What's not Greg Cody today? You're not a law or whatever.

Kwasi. Kwasi. Kwasi. It's a.

Fun word. K, apostrophy, W-A-S-I, lowercase W, if you please.

If you please? Yes. How does Kwasi.

Spell it? Lowercase W, but it's often mistaken. Got it. The catastrophe will do that.

And why are you Kwasi?

Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that. You're a Russian Kwasi. Kwasi is the star of the forthcoming new book, The Pride of a Lion, which drops December... Thank you. Which drops December fifth and is available for pre-order now at Amazon or Target, Barnes and Noble, books and Books and coral gables. Wherever you buy your books, you can pre-order The Pride of a Lion, dropping December fifth. That sounds like Kwasi, as a matter of fact. Here's a funny story. Kwasi does not have a very majestic roar. Roars are like fingerprints with lions. All lions roar differently. Kwasi's roar is an anti-climactic little grunt. Well, it's not a meow. It's a grunt, but still. But what a life he's led. Can't wait to share that story with the public.

What were you saying? Didn't you get to go up close in one of these vans that takes you back there and you got to watch a meet?

Sure did. Yeah, we were closer than 10 feet from a lion that could kill me in a second and a half if he was in the mood and I wasn't in a protected vehicle. But it was quite an experience.

Isn't your book number one in some incredibly obscure category?

It's actually number one in two or three incredibly.

Nice.

Southeast, Florida.

Number one is number one, Greg. Take it.

I will take it.

I don't believe me. I asked Ron because I caught up with the hippo that's named after Dan, and I think he's beefing with his roomie because they're being kept away from one another.

What a.

Great sentence. I heard rumors of them not getting along in a little bit of a fight. So I got to get clarification because they are being kept away from one another.

Wow. Talk about a book. Dan, The HiPPO. I got to write that one next. Let me write that down. I take myself a note. Okay.

All right. You didn't write anything down.

I pretended to.

Yeah, it's always helpful.

It's like when a news show is signing off and you see the host going, Look at this writing on something. He's not writing.

Come on. You did, but everyone could see that you weren't writing anything. It was clear.

It was-I'm sorry, it appeared that I.

Was writing. Dad, don't you still jot down notes at press conferences when other people are just recording it?

I'm one of the few people who still does. I have a little mini yellow legal pad. I'm recording just for appearances, but mostly I'm just writing notes longhand. Saves time. Don't have to transcribe.

It doesn't save time.

Well, it really does. I don't want to have to transcribe. But then I discovered Otter, which is a whole different thing. Right. So that's a whole other story.

Sounds like a whole other book, too, and Otter.

Well, this is not the little sea creature. It's the app Otter, which transcribes.

You can text, you can dictate a text. You can also dictate through an app.

I hate those. I just discovered it.

I hate the dictating text. I don't know if I have an accent. I don't know if my phone is racist. I don't know what's going on here. Never understands what the hell I'm saying.

Oh, it meant me, too.

I love when my dad does it. I'll throw in inappropriate words at the end of it, and it picks up.

The words. I know what he does.

Wait, so you'll be writing a story about the mom out of bio. Chris was.

Saying- He'll be texting his boss like, Yes, JD, I will have that to you later, and I'll put in the back balls.

Or worse, believe me, balls is the best that you say.

Chris, just out of curiosity, because I don't know how you were formed, did you see your parents show each other much in the way of affection? Do they hold hands? Did you see growing up in your household something that showed you that your parents were affectionate with.

Each other? On one of the recent episodes of the Greg Cody Show, my dad was saying how he doesn't ever call my wife Baby or any pet name. We had him on the show, call her on speaker, and say, Hey, baby. And her reaction was like, What the hell are you doing talking to me like that? But no, actually, now that you say it, do you guys hold hands? I don't know you to be hand holders. No, we.

Actually had a conversation about that a couple of years ago because you always see people, no matter where you go, you see the look at me couple holding hands being super affectionate in public. And I'm like-Look at.

Me, they're just holding hands.

You don't have to show everyone.

Exactly. Keep love to yourselves.

Exactly. Billy, you give off hand holder?

No.

Okay. I'm not anyway. We are not a hand-holding couple, and that's fine with the two of us, but I wonder if it is robbing me of some intimate aspect of my relationship. I also wonder what hand-holding couples, do they feel superior to couples who are not hand-holding?

They do. Yeah, they do. Will you ever bust it out? When will you hold your hands?

Well, it sounds like Greg wants to be a hand-holder.

Well, hold on. Yeah, Greg, do you want to hold hands?

Your mom doesn't want to be. No, we've tried.

I'm not sold on that. It felt very much like, Greg, you want to hold your wife's hand, she won't hold your hand, so you've convinced yourself you don't want to be a hand holder. I think that you think you're missing out on something.

Okay, we've done it a couple of times, honestly, and you take 10 steps holding hands and you're looking for an excuse to disengage. No, then you.

Do the squeeze. Let's be.

Honest with you. Me and my.

Wife, when we've reached the limit, we'll do it for a 10th of a mile, and then we'll give a squeeze. The squeeze is like, This is done. It's done. Yeah, we'll let.

Go now. We're separating?

Yeah. No one else does the squeeze in here?

Put it on the pole, please, JuJu, at Levitard show. Are you a hand-holding couple? Yes or no?

You ever smooch in public, Craig?

No way. When is the last time he smooched? When is the last time Greg Cody gave his wife... Well, not just tonsil hockey. Hold on a minute. It's got to be just lips together, right? We can't have it be French kissing.

I.

Don't think I've ever seen my parents' French kiss.

May.

You never. I don't.

Think anyone has. What? I feel.

Like most kids have seen it a couple.

Of times. Who has seen their parents' French kiss? Come on. He just.

Said to you, May you never.

I mean, seriously, that's ridiculous. Yeah, I will affectionately and discreetly kiss my wife goodbye if we're saying goodbye in public. I see you later. A little kiss and blah.

Blah, blah. Lips or cheek?

Yeah, lips or cheek.

You're a big difference. You know the corner of the lip or something. What? The corner of the lip. Come on.

Little forehead kiss ever?

No, I'm not a forehead kiss guy. I'm either a cheek or.

A lip. Does your wife ever a forehead kiss you?

No, that would be odd. It'd be like me saying, Hey, baby. It'd be the same reaction.

Her reaction was to that.

Who's more affectionate, you or her?

I think I am.

That's hard to believe. Is it? I mean, yes.

Baby. I'm the one who.

Invented baby. Well, the-I'm not. -dane, Greg, Dan's early on in his marriage. He doesn't understand love dies in your marriage. You'll get there. You'll realize the holding hands, the kissing on the head, that all goes away.

I don't know if I would use the word dies, but your point is we'll take it.

-billy.

Is...

-klais Dormant. How about ebbs?

It becomes like back in my days. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. When it's there, you're like, Whoa, that's there. You're like, Of course. It's Tuesday.

-it's Tuesday.

-a spark. -a few.

Times.

Quarterly.

That's fair. Billy, you are a supporter of all things. Cody, I heard you before the show celebrating Chris Cody, telling him he was right.

About something. I was so excited, Dan. I saw yesterday that Chris Cody was right. I texted him, which I don't text a lot of people, but I texted him yesterday. I was like, Chris, did you see the news? You were right. Because Chris has been for a while now, saying that Victor fanjo has to come down from the booth down to the sideline to get the boys riled up to intimidate them. I didn't really understand that part. But -.

Just get his hands on him. The 49ers -in a nonviolent way.

Just be on the field. Make him feel like you're in a game with them.

You love each other. It seems like the 49ers in this off week, the buy week, they're looking into that. They're maybe coming down to.

The sidelines now. Not so dumb when Kyle Shanehan says it, huh? Look at you. Everyone in here mocked me. Everyone. When you said it, you guys were like, Could work.

Kyle's like two seasons away from us thinking he's not a.

Genius, right? Two losses.

Staley got there quick. I feel like Shanehan, we're on that path, maybe.

I'm doing the opposite with that. I'm getting my future bets in for the Niners because this is the best odds you're going to get on them all.

Season right now. The part that's confusing to me is Garapolo was a throw away from winning the Super Bowl, and he can't really play.

He was awful last night.

He was so bad. I mean, to Monte Adams was so upset.

He is well on his way to becoming a backup quarterback. And again, one throw in the Super Bowl, and he is forever a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

Yeah, like Trent Dylford.

This is a.

New and an improved Dan.

Levittar show with.

The Stugars.

Gamble on by draft Kins.

Dan Levittar. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald. He's actively playing defense against my ability to do this show because what are you.

Laughing at?

You're.

Just laughing.

Honey Boo Boo is embroideriled in controversy. It's funny to me.

Sorry. Stugars. He couldn't stop laughing, just looking at the picture of Honey Boo Boo. I'm so sorry. That doesn't sound healthy. It's a his-like...

We were fantastic. We can't make him.

Laugh like that. It's how he's going to die right here just laughing and coughing.

I want to die like that.

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stoogads.

Do you think Florida has any chance today?

It's actually going to be a.

Good game, but.

It's about the mother.

Fucking dogs. Well, if you're.

Right here watching mom.

Give me the dogs, Mom. Give me the dogs.

How.

Do you feel.

About Georgia fans barking all the time?

Georgia fans, fuck them all. We're going to show up and we're going to show up and we're going to come up. Not really. It's for the spirit. I love my Georgia fans. I'm all about collegiality, being nice, being respectful of the other team. It's all for fun, but at the same time, the dogs, Georgia fans. Go getters.

There ain't nothing finer in the land. There ain't nothing finer in the land. And a drunk.

Obnoxious.

Georgia fan. And a drunk, obnoxious, Georgia fan. Go dog. Go dog. Go dog. Go dog. Go dog.

Go dog.

Go dog. Go dog.

Go dog.

Let's.

Go, Gator. Go, Florida, baby.

Come on, Gator.

We found a Georgia Southern fan here. I'm about.

To hail Southern.

How are.

You all doing?

I'm Cole Ewing. Nice to meet you all.

Eagles, we.

Already.

Got our first win of the week, so now the dogs are about to come in and take down the Gators. I'm about to go two for two.

The Parlays are going to.

Hit right now.

That's why.

You.

Always bet on the dogs.

We're going to build the dogs today. Run the damn ball, Florida Gators. Run the damn ball.

Go, Gerts. It's a earsaw. It's a touchout, Florida Gator.

If you.

Want to make money, you'll bet on the.

Dogs, though. You're not even… Yeah, look at his shirt. He's not even wearing a dog shirt.

That's Jordan Southern. Who even hell goes to Jordan Southern? I love the Gators. I love the Gators, baby.

Call your.

Mother with the mortgage on the Gators. This is.

Far and away the best tailgating environment I've ever been in. But I will say that Florida fans are more drunk by a mile. I don't know if it's because they're more fun or it's because they're probably going to lose by more, but they are way more drunk. I'll say it, way more friendly. They have given us so much free stuff. Just a little free stuff from Georgia fans, but so much free stuff from Florida. That's what this whole thing is about and also doing my job properly.

The park is limited because of my voices. But I've been in St. Simon's haven't been served since 12 o'clock on Thursday. I'm just rolling right on in.

Michigan, number one, Michigan.

Nice cargo pants.

Nice.

Cargo.

Pants. You just told me that today is your first ever American.

Football game. Well, yeah, I've just flown in from London into Atlanta, and.

Then four.

Hours all the way down here. I've never been to American football match.

I have.

Some friends from here, which is great. You always said you got to come down. Apparently, I'm supporting these guys.

So go dogs. Is that a thing? Yeah. Don't forget, the.

Big Ten still makes more money than them. And that's what really matters at the end of the day. Not wins or losses or championships, but money.

Big.

Ten.

If you pull up and you want to.

Show up.

Go, Dog.

Let's go. Let's go. T-bag. I'm over here with a camera.

Hey, what channel is this?

Dan.

Sean, Gatlet, Go dogs. Wait, wait, wait.

Wait. Go dogs.

Go Dogs. Go Dogs. Do you watch the Dan Levitard Show with two gods? No, ma'am, I.

Don't even know what you.

Just said. Okay, fair enough.

Do you watch the Dan Levitard show with Stu Gots?

No, I'm not going to lie to you. I don't.

Will you now?

No.

But let me get a go. No, Stegal. Thank you all. Go, dogs.

Do you watch the Dan Levitard show with Stu Gods?

Absolutely not. Can you.

Look at the microphone?

Absolutely not.

What should I do?

Watch the show.

What show is it on?

It's the Dan Levitard Show with Stu Gods.

Tupac? Yeah, the.

Tupac on the DraftKings Network.

I got you.

Wait, okay, so what is the name of the show?

Tupac Network. Watch it live now.

100.

Percent. Duvall.

There is no way that you didn't get annoyed with all of that barking in about nine minutes in.

It got old very fast. I think one of the moments were... So the game obviously was a blowout. By the third quarter, I'm just watching the crowd, and there is nothing that gives me the irk, like seeing a grown man just start barking at someone. It was such an uncomfortable experience.

Where are you headed next? Where are some of the places that you're excited about?

That is a great question. We would like to go to Alabama. We don't know if we are going to go to Alabama. Then our other options this weekend are Bedlam, Oklahoma State should be really fun. Or if we're feeling really weird and crazy and gross, Iowa Northwestern.

Stugats is going. I am going to that game against my will, but I am trying to help Lucy and Dan, you should partake. I am trying to help Lucy get to the Alabama game. I'm putting a call to AJ McCarron. How about that? Anything you want to do?

Mark Ingram? I've already asked John Skipper to see if we can get her on the Alabama field. But Alabama, I probably don't need to tell you. They are run like a professional franchise, and they are something different from your average college franchise. So I'm guessing it's pretty hard to get on the field there.

Yeah, I'm not feeling super-optimistic about it. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State should be really, really fun. I went on the third, very distant third option. Very distant third option.

Mike Ryan has been making fun of Pat Riley saying that Tyler Hero was never up for trade. I'm just wondering, which is the bigger lie? Pat Riley saying Tyler Hero was never up for trade? Or Robert Sallis saying, I've got unwavering faith in the jets offense.

Oh.

Wow. He did say that.

He did. He said- Unwavering. I don't know why you wouldn't just go faith there.

Faith- Unwavering.

I've.

Got wavering faith.

I've got wavering faith. Faith that comes and goes, but it is not consistent. I saw, and Taylor was telling me there's a new 33-year-old up-and-comer in the New York market at WFAN who's trying to do the Stugatz thing in his early 30s. Sean Morash has ripped Zach Wilson for going somewhere with his girlfriend, going to Utah with his girlfriend on the byway.

That's classic WFAN. He has.

Said he has ripped him for going apple picking and said that he needs to, quote, Stay back and grind.

But his coach has unwavering confidence in the offense.

He doesn't need to grind. He needs to pick apples.

I'm under the understanding that this isn't an on air talent. It's a producer that has become this lightning rod and has carved out a niche for himself. Taylor pulled me aside, I guess, in a similar vein. He's dressed as the undertaker today, and he's like, Hey, Mike, I've got Carolina observations. Oh, wow. Now, I am familiar with Taylor's Carolina observations because they happened last week. I did find the hard to tell him. I'm not exactly sure if that's a Dan benchmark, Taylor. He came.

In here and told me the same thing. I told him last week. He came in and told me that he was going to do that. What would be the Carolina observations? That they allowed 22 points in the fourth quarter to.

Georgia Tech? Did you think he was serious when he told you?

You seemed to laugh like he was kidding.

No, I wasn't sure. I thought he was offering me a bit. I laughed. It was a genuine laugh at the idea that that would ever be on our show.

Well, Stugat's made promises while you're gone.

Is the issue. -it was on the show last week.

He did it.

Last week.

And Stugat said every week, buddy.

Yeah.

Stugat's likes. That was good. He did a good job. I mean.

Stugat likes when other people do the work for him.

Well, he also likes promising things that other people then have to say no to, and then he's not the bad guy.

Well, he did them. I mean, I mean...

Yeah, but you promised that he would do them this week.

If it were up to me, he would do them again this week. But it's not. It's up to Danny. I mean, Dan wants to break the kid's heart. That's up to him. I'm not going to do it. I mean, Taylor is an up-and-comer. He is. Just trying to make his name in the business with Carolina Observations.

Stugart.

What.

Is he not.

Going to do him? -is he practicing his observations.

Right now? He takes them very seriously. Looks like Slash.

Everybody in video and everyone on the other side of this door did a much better job on Halloween stuff than our crew of underachievers.

There's Kylo.

Ren out there. Kwazi.

Kwazi, thank you. No one.

Did better than Babooshka and the Lines.

That's.

Not a Z. It's a s-sound, not a z- It's Quasi, a Halloween costume.

No, kwazi with an s-sound, not a z- Quasi.

Exactly. It's a fun.

Part.

Of.

It. Billy, Stubat texted me that he spent 40 minutes talking to Kishon Johnson at the barber shop. Where is that going?

Billy enjoyed it. I got to be honest.

He doesn't look like he enjoyed it.

He enjoyed the conversation. He did. I know he did.

Here's the problem with my life is... So planning isn't a strength here, right? In terms of following a plan, I should say, isn't a strength here. I have to take things that Stugart's tells me with a grain of salt. When he tells me, Kishon is going to be on, and then Kishon isn't on, and then it was a thing like, Oh, no, he thought it was at 5:30, you have to understand that I went into yesterday thinking, Kishon will not be on today. But I still have to prepare as though Kishon is going to be on. Then when we get to 2:30, which is when Kishon was supposed to be on, and Stugart tells me Keishon is getting a haircut now, I assume Stugart's never spoke to Kishon, and he just was hoping that at the last minute, he'd come and be on. Then when he tells me Keishon is going to be on at 3:00 today, I said, This is the third time I have time to go to Home Depot. I'm not going to wait around for this. Long story short, we eventually get to Keishon, and he's in a barber's chair. I'm like, Stugald, this is...

Why are we doing this?

Because I wanted to.

I know because you wanted to is the answer, but he wanted to do it from the barber's chair because he thought it'd be funny. Then what ends up happening is it ends up working out, so no lesson has ever learned. It ends up working out. We do 40 minutes with Keishon Johnson, which was really good. It was a good 40 minutes. Now we're in a power struggle where I say we should put this on Stugaldity so I could put the whole 40 minutes. Stugalds wants to put it on Godless Football because Godless Football, truth be told, gets some better downloads than Stupaddy does. But Godless Football, at the same time, I'm going to have to cut 40 minutes of Keishaan into 12 minutes. We're going to lose 28 minutes of Keishaan, which is the battle that I'm constantly in with Stugatz, where he wants to do 40 minutes for every guest, and they can only really be 12 for Godless Football. I don't know where it's going to go. I still want to put it as stupidity because I feel like then we can hear the whole thing.

Go for it, Billy.

Yeah, but you want it in Godless Football, so more people.

Hear it. I want you to be happy. You do with it what you want, okay?

I know, but this is the other part about this. We reached this part of the conversation, and then two hours from now, I'll get a call from you like, I was really thinking, I think it'll be better in Godless Football.

I got to stop thinking. I have to.

Stop thinking. That's the move. That's the move. It's always like, Whatever you think is best, and I know we're just going to revert back to what you thought.

Was best. That is so true. He just says things into a microphone and they're all lies. Don Libertard. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald, who is a source of constant frustration and entitlement and narcissism. This is what he says. This is either the last Back in My Day as a regular series or the first of a new phase in which Back in My Days are occasional, not every week. So he has just announced officially his laziness. Still guts. I want to make him an occasional series.

I am, once a week.

But now I think more occasional. I think every time you don't have a Back in my Day, you can't do the show.

I think we.

Should- Okay, Okay, that's fine because I have a contract. So if you want to pay me for not doing the.

Show- That's fine. We can pay him for doing nothing. We already do.

That's a good one. I got no retort.

For that. This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats.

Happy to be joined, as always, on Tuesdays, or I should say often, when he doesn't have an emergency giraffe procedure or an orangeutang doesn't need surgery. Ron McGill with us. What are you making faces about Ron?

Well, because I'm leaving right here. I just left the surgery. We're doing this cool surgery on a hornbill, a Greater Indian hornbill, Hot Stugaz. Look it up. It's like the Eastern Hemisphere version of a tucan, but much bigger. This hornbill, she's got cancer in her cask, in her bill, and they're taking the cancer out, and they used a 3D printer to make a false bill that they're going to put on there surgically. As soon as I leave here, I'm going to go over there to photograph that. This is really cool stuff, man.

What do you regard as the coolest medical procedure that you have seen or been most awed by?

This could be it. I've been fortunate to watch a couple of Cessarean sections. When you pull that baby out for the first time, you see it take its breath on a surgery table like that. That's moving, but to see, oh, we also made a prosthetic leg for a secretary bird, which was really pretty cool. But to use this, what they did was they put this hornbill through a CT scanner, made a visual print of it that they had measurements to the bill, and then they had a 3D printer make this plastic appendage that's going to go onto this bill to replace the part that's taken out from cancer. Now, I don't know if it's going to work, but it's really a cool approach to help save this bird. I'm going to get right back to that surgery as soon as I'm done with you guys.

What is the necessity of that part of the bill?

Well, basically, it's an announcement for the bird. They're like two cans. They use them to announce to each other their availability that they're there. But they also can resonate sound in it. They make a honking sound, and that honking sound inside the bill, it resonates. It makes it even louder.

Can you tell us, Ron, what it is that you're doing this Saturday and why it is it's important that people go out there? I know that we've talked about it some around here, but finally, on Saturday, it is here. And if people want to support the right things that Ron McGill is about, they can help do so on Saturday. Tell them where it is that you're going to be gathering, and I'm going to see if I can get some people from the show out there.

That'd be great. 10:00 a. M. Saturday on the northeast parking lot of Zoom, Miami, there's going to be a rally here, and it's going to be basically to voice our opposition to developing a water park on this property, which is critical habitat for the endangered species. These are all endangered species that have been discovered since people voted for the water park way back in 2006. We've learned so much, and we're trying to get the commissioners to understand there's a big bolt on December 12th. We're all coming out here. I'm telling you, there are going to be hundreds, if not more than 1,000 people joining me and other key people out here. We're going to do a release of a Hawk, we're going to do the release of some butterflies. But more importantly, we're going to walk up and down the pathway into Zool Miami, demonstrating how we want to protect this because it's a home for critically endangered species. It's critically endangered habitat. Guys, enough with the development. Listen, I'm not one of these extremists. If there's a roach in my house, I kill it. But we've got to be able to protect this critical habitat as the most critically endangered habitat in the state of Florida.

The largest track outside of Everglace National Park is right here in Zool Miami. We cannot build a water park on it. The traffic already is ridiculous. What they'll do to damage this environment and the creatures that live in it is horrific. Please come out, stand with us, and let the people know, especially the commissioners, that we don't want this here. On December 12th, they vote no, and they don't allow it to be built here.

Ron, is this replacing the one that you had announced is on Black Friday, or is this in addition to that?

Yes, exactly. Yes, the one that was originally going to be Black Friday, we wanted to do it earlier. We wanted to do it earlier so we can get more legs out of it leading up to December 12th. I think it's... I tell you, I think this is going to be historic, folks. I think it's going to be the first time in my over 40 years working at the zoo that the commission makes a vote in favor of the environment over development. This is their chance. It's a brand new commission. These are all good commissioners, generally speaking, and I think they want to set a tone. They want to let people know, Listen, we've got to put a halt. We got to put some breaks on this development because enough is enough, guys. We got to protect this for our future generations. They're all saying, We've not inherited this earth from our parents, we're borrowing it from our children.

I wanted to get to a story with you that is that came across my social media this week. In 1996, an unidentified eight-year-old boy slipped away from his mother, climbed over a barrier and fell into the guerrilla enclosure. Due to the 20-foot fall, the boy broke his hand and suffered a deep laceration to his face. Seven correlas inhabited the enclosure. Gorillas are known to be fiercely territorial animals. They will fight to the death to defend their families. However, one of the correlas went over, cradled the boy in her arms, and all while her own young child was on her back. She then went to the edge of the enclosure and waited for the zookeepers to come and collect the child and handed the child over peacefully before returning to the rest of the correlas. What do you make of that behavior, Ron?

Well, I think that happened at the Oklahoma City Zoo, if I'm not incorrect. It's a behavior that's typical of female correlas, especially. That was a female gorilla, obviously a fairly new mother. There is an instinct there. I believe that animals can read things, that they sense things. I believe that that girl knew that that child needed help, and the only help that could be afforded to would be getting it to a zookeeper. That that Gorilla knew that keepers had taken care of her, of her baby, and that that was an outlet. That was a conduit to help this child that had fallen in and hurt himself. It's another reflection on how animals do have a sixth sense. Gorillas can be territorial, but it's male correlas that are territorial against other male correlas. They're not necessarily territorial against non-specific other animals. So correlars are generally known as the gentle giant. They're not the King Kong monsters that movies and other things make them out to be. And this is a perfect reflection of how animals can sense, first of all, that it was a child, and second of all, that it needed help, and the way to get it help was to get it to a zookeeper.

I think it's a wonderful, wonderful example of this unwritten bond between people and animals.

Ron, a helicopter flying low over a expedile farm in Queensland, Australia, created noise and vibration that caused a huge sex frenzy and orgy among the crocadiles. What the hell was.

Going on there? Well, you know what happens? You go down to the Everglades around March and April. This is the breeding season when the males are out there. What they do, the males bellow. All crocadillions, the males make this bellowing sound. If they hear something that sounds like a bellow, if you go down to, let's say, Everglade's Alligator Farm down there in Homestead and you hear a plane going over or a lawnmower starting, all of a sudden, all the male crocidots are going...

Because they think it's bellowing, so it's a competition. That starts and the bellowing is like the foreplay. That gets the female, it's like, Hey, baby. How are you doing? Hey, baby.

We.

Start that up and it becomes this domino effect and it just becomes a massive orgy because this airplane, just the helicopter, makes that sound that gets, Hey, that's a huge crocketow. It's time to have sex. Let's announce our presence. That's what they do. It's sex, sex, sex, sex. It's wonderful.

I'm a native Floridian. I've seen a lot of big aguanas in my day. I think I saw the biggest aguanas in my life at Zoo Miami over the weekend inside the chimpansey enclosure. I've gone there several times. I've seen snakes across the walkway. I'm curious what your approach is for some of these animals that reside in the zoo that aren't actually part of your exhibits, and if your approach might differ for some invasive species.

Well, if we get an invasive species, if we trap them, they are removed from the property. If there are any universities or somebody doing studies on them, they're sent that way. Otherwise, they are euthanized. If they're invasive species and they're caught on different exhibits, things like aguanas folks, they can be conduits for disease. They produce a tremendous amount of feces. We've seen piles of feces on the walk where somebody thinks that a freaking rhino has gotten loose because that's how much they can excrete at one time. It's mind-blowing. For the native animals, listen, I think it's a blessing. Every now and then you'll see a racer or a coach who would go across the walkway, people are like, Listen, be lucky, man. You just seen a wonderful piece of nature. The snake is just trying to get away from you. It's not going to hurt you. I tell people all the time, when you see wildlife, observe it from a distance, respect it. It wants nothing to do with you. Just leave it alone and enjoy it.

Ron, on Halloween, I am wondering which animal likes candy the most.

All animals like candy, though it's not good for any of them because it's sugar, man. Sugar is an addictive ingredient to anything. Anything with sugar, animals will eat it, and unfortunately, it usually makes them very sick if they get a hold of it.

Ron, going back to the story about the gorilla and the child, what is the most unusual reaction you have seen from an animal that should have been predatory or unkind and around a human being surprised you with the behavior?

Well, it wasn't necessarily around a human being, Dan. There was an incident with a lion in San Bruno, in Kenya, that went to kill an antelope, and then the antelope's offspring was there, and it didn't eat the offspring, as a matter of fact, it just sat by and guarded it and almost became like a maternal figure to it, walking around for days next to it like it was part of its pride, which was a very unusual thing. As far as humans go, one of the things that really moved me, we have a chimpansey here named Samantha. She's not very fond of a lot of people, but for whatever reason, she really likes me. She had gotten pretty sick. She's in her 50s now, and she had been anesthetized, and she was having trouble coming out of the anesthesia. The vet called me back there. She said, because for whatever reason, she really loves me. She hears my voice and she gets excited. I think you've been out here, Dan, you've seen her react to me. She wasn't coming out of anesthesia, so I went up to her and I said, Sammy, it's me. Hey, Sammy.

And she heard me and she went, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And she woke up and was... I hate to use the word happy, but that's what it was. And it seemed to be an inspiration for her to wake up and get better, and that made me feel pretty good.

I'm going to show you this video of a Orangutang here, and you tell me if this Orangutang is happy? What is happening here in this video? Is it a costume of some sort?

No, Orangutans love to cover themselves in sheets, will sometimes even put T-shirts out on the exhibit, and they'll cover themselves in the T-shirt. It's just plain. It's just plain. You'd be surprised. There's a lot of parallels to the mentality of a three or four or five-year-old. When you what these orangutans, a lot of these great apes do. They are just absolutely entertaining themselves and play.

Well, what is this animal doing with this windsurfer? Because there's a windsurfer minding his or her own business in the ocean, and then a whale breaches and totally- It's the whale's ocean, though.

The whale is just being.

A whale. The whale is.

Just-the whale is whaling.

The whale is just that. The whale is just that. The whale is not... That's an accident there, correct? Hitting the windsurfer?

Yes, I think that is certainly an accident. These whales do not really see above them unless it's something like a big boat or something like that. They breach on a regular basis. And sometimes the whales make the mistake of breaching in the wrong place. But it certainly was not a move of aggression.

That seems like something you can say, but that seems aggressive to me. It may have been an error, but getting hit by a flying whale while your windsurfing seems aggressive. It's a assault, buddy. It's a assault, buddy. While your windsurfing seems aggressive.

It's really a fluke, so to speak. It's like if you're walking down a street and a brick falls off the building and falls in your head, is the building being aggressive to you? Yes.

Ron, thank you for being on with us.

Listen, guys, for the rally. Everybody gets one of these. The first 600 people get this T-shirt, baby. Come get it. Come be part of a movement. Come be part of history. Saturday, September fourth.

10:00 AM. Saturday. Thank you, Ron. Good seeing you again.

Thank you. Take care.