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This show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

In fact.

The only difference.

Seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now here's The Marching Man to nowhere, Fatface, and The Habitual Liar.

I wanted to talk, Stugart, because I see, after just a couple of games into the basketball season, I saw a little spark in Chris Cody and Mike Ryan, early-season basketball. We've talked for a few years about fan with Stugart. There's just so much going on in sports. You've got to choose. You can't care deeply about everything and have a life. Lebron was playing somewhere on Sunday night.

You know what? I'm glad you brought that up. He's still doing that. I cannot believe that he's still doing it. It's a Sunday night, okay? I'm certain the guy wants to be home. He wants to be watching Sunday night football. He is still trotting out there on a Sunday night playing games 39 minutes, a game that went into overtime. I think he had 29 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, near triple-double, something like that. He's still trotting out there on a Sunday night playing 39 minutes against the Kings.

When is it going to stop?

Are you advocating for LeBron to just stay at home to watch Sunday night football.

Certain games? I just marvel at the guy. I appreciate the guy that he is still doing this at 39 years of age. He is still willing to go out on a Sunday night. I don't know why I'm pointing out Sunday night. Why do you keep counting on this Sunday night part of that? It's a weekend. It's a Sunday night. People like to have dinner. They like to be home.

You know he doesn't.

Work at 95. Yeah, I know, but he doesn't have a normal job. I don't care. Sunday nights are meant for a family dinner and Sunday.

Night Football. Load management, but just for Sundays.

What.

Are you doing?

He's trotting out there on a Sunday night where he should be home with a family. Stop saying Sunday nights. Having a little dinner with the kids and he's playing the Kings. He's playing 39 minutes. This is a weird take.

Because now you're anti-load management. The easy way for you to go today is why is Jimmy Butler taking the third game of the season off? What are we doing there with the toughest condition, hardest working, blah, blah.

Blah, blah, blah.

Blah, culture thing. Then the third game of the season is like, I'm tired. It just says rest. I'm tired, rest, meh. Then LeBron is out there playing and you're like, He shouldn't be playing. He should be resting.

He should be eating dinner. Why does everything have to be a take? I am just marveling at the greatness and longevity of LeBron James. That's all I'm doing.

Adam Silver had a press conference that said, You know what we're going to do? We're playing again. These DMP minute restriction rest things are going to end. Bradley Beale is sitting and Jimmy Butler is sitting, the third game of the season. It's the same thing. But you want to talk about LeBron James, and he posted this photo because even for him doing something athletic, we're pretty numb to it. But at his age, being the oldest player in the league, he shared this photo on social media, him stealing a ball that was intended for Kevin Durant. That's Wimbunyama type of physics right there. That doesn't make sense. He's doing that as the oldest player in the league. Yeah, I'll give him a little bit of credit for playing.

We'll get back to that in a second, him trotting out there on a Sunday night when he should be having dinner with his family. But the first two games of the season, the Lakers, when he was on the floor for 64 minutes were plus 20. When he was off the floor for 32 minutes because they were limiting his minutes. They were minus 52.9. The idea that the oldest player in the league after 20 years can still be a top 10 player is assinine. For all the things he's done in his career, the idea that they would be a legitimate contender this year just because he's going to be their best player because he needs to be a good deal better than Anthony Davis, and that might make them a contender. I think Mike's point is an interesting one when he talks about load management, though, Stugats, because it seems pretty obvious based on last year that Jimmy Butler's economy at this point in his career is get me to maximum strength for the last 20 games so the wheels don't fall off the last four of those 20 games because I go from being Michael Jordan to I can't get through the playoffs.

The whole thing is built to, if this is the way they're going to be built, if they're not going to get any of the whales. If it's just get better around Jimmy Butler, then the whole season is going to track; science, nutrition, game management, all of it to, how is Jimmy the strongest the last 20 games? That's all that matters. I don't know how you make the regular season matter from there, Stugat, when the Heat just showed you as an eight-seed. Just, Jimmy's got to be right for 20 games.

I understand where you're coming from and where the Heat is coming from, and proof is in the pudding. But the NBA did prioritize this. Joe Dunmore was out there touting the metrics that it actually doesn't help injuries in any way, playing more is fine, and you owe it to your fanbase to actually have your stars show up. I'm sure Minnesota, who was chanting, Where is Jimmy at the end of that game? Would have loved to have seen it. And considering the loss, Heat fans would have probably like to have seen him suit up, too. I do think that we're almost at a breaking point when it comes to this sport. And so far, the NBA players and these teams have called the NBA's bluff when it.

Comes to this. But, Mike, this is their one star, their lone star, Jimmy Butler. Maybe, Bam, you want to say Bam, that's fine, but he's their lone star. The importance for Jimmy Butler of being healthy going into the postseason is far more important for the Heat than it is, let's say, Jaylen Brown for the Celtics. The Celtics have four other great players.

They did.

That starting lineup.

Is ridiculous. I know the data is skewed and you can play with numbers and the NBA wants to tell us a certain story and you can make numbers work for you in that respect. But when it comes to resting players, the fan in me sees, Oh, proof in the pudding, he make the finals because they manage these minutes. But if you have data that suggests this actually doesn't help and all it does is it makes fans that spent money on tickets upset, then yeah, go out.

There and play. I've honestly been paying more attention to the teams involved with all these trades around the Heat more than the Heat early on. I've been hate-watching basketball like DeAndre Aten is averaging eight points a game, and I'm like, Yeah, you see? You should have taken.

Tyler Hero. Chris, this is where I wanted to head with all.

Of this. He was never on the table, according to Pat.

Because this made its way into the weekend. This is how the Heat would be able to steal some of the attention that will go to limited fan width because it's a lot, man. And if one of the things that gets you to pay attention to the early-season Heat, when we're telling you in game three, it doesn't actually matter and they're going to be load managing all season, the way to do it is, Oh, I'm interested in the Bucks when Lillard scores 39 or goes two for 12 and they are losing by 30. Two games into the season, you were hate watching The Bucks.

Weren't you? That first game was tough to watch. Oh, my God. We went off. Last game when he was terrible, a little better.

I mean, he was really bad. He had as many turnovers as he had points six.

Of each. I needed that. Heat fans needed that game.

Yeah. And also, I will say that I know even in that 39-point game, that's exactly what Giannis needs defensively, turnsale. Maxie was cooking him the entire night. So yeah, I'm watching through the prism of, Well, now that we don't have him, I hope he really falls off.

Still hate with love, hate with passion, somehow the heat weren't. Somehow the heat weren't somehow the heat were not interesting enough to you to get your attention during the last regular season. It's a good.

I checked out on them for all the Homer shit that I get hit with. There was in a bigger anti-Heat voice last season, and they made me look like a fool. But I'm doing it again this year.

They're not that- Why did Zagaki just make an appearance- Like.

A fool. There's only one more.

Touchdown. What a great call by Josie. That was electric. Yeah, it was awesome. But hey, Miami won, so you won't talk about him.

Let's do that. Well, let's not do that. I was so closed to having a date with Tony Elliott.

No, Mike, I will talk about them even though the last couple of games have been- I'm shocked you knew that. -overtime victories. God bless football has a trend going of bringing on the coach that has broken Mike's heart. How many straight weeks did you do it? Every loss. Okay, but the last couple of games that we should give the University of Miami because we pounce on them. The last two games, they've beaten Clemson over time with their backup quarterback, and they beat Virginia. I don't think Virginia is any good, but Virginia did do that at North Carolina. Miami was a big favorite, barely won, and there are a million reasons people are going to get frustrated with Mario Cristobal, including in town, you've got a coach who's super aggressive in the pro level, super, super aggressive, teaching you what offense can be, and you've got a great offensive line. Van Dyk has got plenty of time to throw, Stugas. They've got a quarterback problem. I didn't think they were going to have a quarterback problem. I did not think they were going to have a quarterback problem. That team could be better if he were better, and he's making bad interceptions with plenty of time.

Maybe there are more quarterbacks around the league, around all of college football that are getting more time than Van Dyk, but he's protected. He's got time. It may be a failure of his receivers, but he's making some bad decisions.

As well. His receivers are getting open. He has all the time in the world. I told you before the season, everyone wants to point back to Tyler Van Dyk of two years ago. Ret Lasley's offense, led by Jalen Knighten, scored 69 points over the weekend for SMU. I don't want to see the Tyler Van Dyk from two years ago. I want to see the Tyler Van Dyk from the first four games of this season. That to me was the new model. I told you before the season, I'm not all in on TVD because he's the type of quarterback that needs everything to go right for him, and that includes health. He's banged up. I know he was wearing a brace. He took a hard shot in North Carolina. He played well in North Carolina, I think. He plays better on the road, it would appear. But yeah, he's locked into his primary read, and it's always Restrepo. Restrepo was the read on that first interception, and he under threw it by five yards. They have to fix this with the quarterback because my entire adult life, Miami does not win the game that they won the last two weeks, getting that from the quarterback position.

I know, Sugats, I have already read your observations, and you want to kill Miami for winning. I'm not apologizing for winning because Miami always loses that game. Year-over-year improvement, surviving that from your quarterback, that's an impressive win.

Maybe he just needs some crowd noise to play better. Maybe it's too quiet at home.

Mike Ryan is again dressed like an athletic trainer today, head to toe. I'm going to With his University of Miami gear. The whole UN Women's basketball team is as cool as we've got in town. He was at Highline with them on Friday. He is a full-on booster and athletic trainer and journalist on the inside.

Seems like a conflict. But regardless, Dan, to answer your question, just to answer your question, we had Brent Key, the head coach of Georgia Tech, after the Cains lost to them in that final play. Then we had Mac Brown on after they lost to UNC. But here's the thing. The curse of God bless football is back. Mike should be happy because Mac Brown in Carolina went out and they lost right after he.

Came on with us. I don't think God bless football has anything to do with what Mac Brown always does.

That's right. God bless football is responsible for all wins and losses all over the universe. Put it on the pole, please, JuJu.

At Levitard show. One last thing, because this is the first time I'm allowed to talk Miami Hurricanes football in the last two weeks. I would love to give some shine to Ruben Hurricane-Bane.

You know what? Hold on just a second.

Because he might be the best defensive lineman in the nation, and he's a true freshman.

Mike, he's been wanting to talk about this non-stop for months.

That's all I wanted.

To say.

No, but It's.

Fun when we lose. Hold up, Mike. I'm going to endorse you. I'm going to endorse you on this. It was fun to watch Ruben Baine on Saturday take Virginia Leinman and throw them back with their arms waving because he's very strong and fast. It is fairly ridiculous to see how quickly he gets through the line and people are backing away from him as if something's exploded at their feet. He is exceptional, clearly.

Ruben Baine and Mark Fletcher and Maugua, these are players why you have to, you have to, and $80 million as well, why you have to believe in this and just see this crystal ball project out.

Do you believe in the darkness yet?

Dan Levitard. If all the rain drops were lemon drops and gun drops, oh, what a rain that would be-Stugat. -standing outside with my mouth open wide.

If.

All the rain.

Drops were lemon drops and gum drops, oh, what a rain that would be… This is the Don.

Levitard show with.

The Stugats. We will.

Get to all of the college football and professional football that are part of our Monday, not good for you, congested, digestive system, just belching out football on a Monday because it's one of the few common grounds we all have in America today. Certainly, the people listening to this can't get enough football. But before I get to the football, I don't want to just skip past a sports story from the weekend because boxing doesn't matter the way that it used to in this country because they've distorted it with a bunch of Paul's and circus freak fights and Connor McGregor being carried around the ring by Floyd Mayweather, who said this weekend in some video that I saw that he now owns nine skyscrapers in New York. I don't think that's true. I'm guessing he's getting dividends from a company or from a place where many people are able to buy skyscrapers. But he's done very for himself because he was first to, Nah, I'll keep all my own shit, all my own pay-per-view. I'll be a just business mercenary. And that's fine. 50 Cent can make fun of me because I'm illiterate. But I'm going to be in the golden age ahead of everyone in sports at making money on my name and keeping that money, not sharing it with Dana White, not sharing it with the networks, just having allies.

Floyd Mayweather conquered the sport, and then people watched the circus freak fight of Connor McGregor, and that wasn't a real thing. But this weekend, Stugart, because boxing in this country used to be boxing. If the giants are going at it, everyone in America is watching. It is the event in sports. That's what used to be. But in Saudi Arabia, you had Ngano and Fuel, and I don't know if people have been paying attention, but the Clitchcows were great champions. Not good, Stugart, great champions, dominated heavyweight boxing, and people lost interest because they weren't from here. We didn't have people from here. We didn't have interesting personalities. Deante Wilder wasn't enough. Tyson Fuel is a beast. He conquered those two beasts who are now fighting in Ukraine. He conquered the heavyweight division and has been a great champion. I don't know if he underestimated Engano, but what Engano did in that fight was stunning to me as somebody who knows that you don't take a punch and fall down. There was no carrying Engano around the ring. At the center of that ring, Furi told Engano, Time to take you to school. Then Furi went down and Engano stood over him and yelled, You're a bad professor.

Who's taking who to school now? If Enghanu was a more experienced fighter, he would have ended that fight there or he would have ended it later with body shots, but he's not experienced yet. But holy shit, that guy won in every way over the weekend because he got out from under Dana White, out from under the business, and now making his own money, and Tyson Furi will have to seriously train for the next time he fights him because he's got the punching power and the chin to stand somehow toe to toe with a great heavyweight champion.

But not in every way. I mean, he lost the fight.

Every way but that one.

That's the important thing. That's the war.

It felt icky after the fight. The whole thing felt icky. Tessator constantly calling the leader of Saudi Arabia, his excellency. Joe Tess. That felt a little weird. And then at the end, Inganu not upset, seemingly about the result. It just felt like, I know boxing with the fixes in, but it felt weird with how Inganu just took the loss. Because he got a knockdown. I don't know boxing. I don't know the way boxing scoring works.

But I thought it's- It's 10-8 there, but the rest of the fight, I mean, look, it was a split decision, and it wasn't horribly referee, but one judge had the fight for Inghanu and the other two judges had it for Furi. But the point was that he stood with him and he knocked him down. That wasn't fake. The way Tyson Furi's face looked after the fight, that's not fake.

I understand where Chris is coming from, but maybe what's going through in God's mind is where he's been. Everyone knows about his story. He was unhoused in France, and maybe he's looking at that moment as like, I just won. I just won. I don't have to worry about Dana White's $50,000 bonus here. I just got a bag.

But he lost. He secured, and he performed so well that he'll get more fights. So that's probably where he's thinking there. If he embarrasses himself there, he probably doesn't get other fights. Now he's.

Going to get more fights. I don't want to say because of the construct and the evolution of one of the things Mike was talking about last week, which is fame is the new good, that the big boxing fights have been circus things. They haven't been fights because you care about boxing. I don't want to say and Ghanu skips the line here because his story is crazy. This is one of the toughest human stories you will ever hear in sports, what he has overcome. And Dana White tried to bleep him, like really tried to put him under the thumb the way he's got John Jones under his thumb, the way he has conspired with everyone in business to hold fighters down and squeeze the income out of them, as some of them live in their cars, and got to escape the thicket of that system and just cut the line straight to the top of the heavyweight box office from the other sport because of his showing in that fight. It's one of the few things like you could quibble about the micro things. You didn't like the judging or whatever. But what you can't quibble with is that dude just won it business.

That guy just secured himself because he's going to get to keep all of the money from now on on his two or three next fights, and he's going to do the Floyd Mayweather stuff.

It went exactly the way that you would want in that I didn't watch this fight middle of the afternoon college football season. It's just not going to work for me. You'll watch the next one. Unlike everybody that was tweeting about boxing saying this is why I don't watch boxing, I got to that point and I legit don't watch boxing. But that stopped fairly recently. What I do recall from my time watching boxing is that Dysun Furi ran through everybody. If people are saying online that this guy beat him and it's a controversial split decision, I'm interested now because Engano did what a lot of people said, which is if someone that big with that punching power hits you, you're going to go down. He made Furi go down. If you look at the list of heavyweights right now, the fight you want to see next is actually this guy that came over from the USC and didn't box before going in with the boxer of his generation. It's a pretty great story.

You had Furi before the fight talking about how he trained with beers and burgers for this. Then in about the eighth round, I'm thinking, Probably not a good choice to do that.

But he won.

A cool thing that I saw from the highlights and again, I did not watch the fight, so there is an element of me BSing through this. But what I had heard from people that did watch the fight was, usually when the boxer ties you up, that's a bit of a break for the boxer. But he gets into a tie-up and Incanu is initiating offense off of breaking it up because he's manhandling him with his strength. The deeper that that fight went, the difference in conditioning started becoming apparent.

Not just that, because clearly those are two very different, 270-pound people. Nganu took an elbow. I mean, Tyson furie, Tyson Furi doesn't get manhandled. He keeps people at a distance to God. Deante Wilder is said to be the biggest puncher in the history of the sport, and Tyson furie could keep him at a distance. But Deante Wilder is not the size of Engano. Engano's strength, I don't think people understand this. Do you understand what his stamina has to be in that sport to be a heavyweight going into the late rounds? This is where the mixed martial arts can meet, and Tyson Furi can underestimate this human being who's... Stugass, this is the Rocky story where Tyson Furi has gotten to the top of the mountain.

I said Rocky won.

Tyson Furi is the king. You should.

This because-You lost the first one, Mike. I know. You're right.

Tyson Furi is the king. Furi is the king of heavyweight fighting. He's got a reality show on Netflix. It's super interesting. It'll take you in the mind and into the life of somebody who's dealing with mental illness by his own admission.

They'll fight again? The two of them? For sure. The rematch is set.

And it'll be a huge fight for Engano who will keep his business part of this, which it really is fascinating to me as a victory. But I don't know if this is Mr. T. It's probably Mr. T, Rocky. Furi is fat and happy training with beers and burgers doing a reality show, and Engano is coming from Africa and homelessness into the heavyweight sphere, which is Stugartz. These are the toughest people with the most desperation, the people who arrive at the top of boxing because they don't have any other options and they got to fight other human beings for money. Tyson Furi has gotten to fame and celebrity, and then Ghanu is fighting for something on behalf of other fighters. Ghanu is fighting on behalf of, No, you can do this if you bet on yourself, and you get out from under the grip of how dirty these businesses are. Boxing, Stagatz, is worse than all of them. Mixed martial arts, worse than all of them in terms of how poorly they treat the fighters.

You're saying who is Clubber Lang? Which one? Ghanu?

I'm saying this.

Is-this is important.

-right.

Yes, that is. Because you remember, Rocky didn't prepare for his first fight with Clubber Lang because Clubber Lang accidentally killed his trainer, Mickey. Then Rocky, once he got past the fear, the speech on the beach by Adrian, one of the great speeches of all time in the history of movie making, then Rocky, like a light went off and he went back to basics. He trained with Apollo, came back, and then he took care of Mr. T.

Jessica, I need to engage you here because this is... Yeah, well, yeah.

By the way, training Rocky seems to be a dangerous job. Say no to that if it ever becomes available. Yeah. Because it doesn't work out for Apollo in four. Spoiler alert.

Bert Young passed away recently. I don't know. I didn't even get to talk about that.

Oh, my goodness, it's three now. This is a trend.

But Stalone looks better than ever. I saw him on-Of course he does. -on the steroids. I don't understand. Expendables four, he does 400. He doesn't look ridiculous. He looks like he belongs next to Statham. It doesn't make sense. How old is that man? Isn't he Bobby's age? How is Syinvestre Stalone still clearly a movie star? How many surgeries is that?

77 years old. Not 77, it's seven years old. I thought you were saying the number of-He's the one of surgeries.

Jessica, this is the.

Stugat's wheelhouse. H. G.

H. Bug. Chugs he threw out.

Of his balcony in Australia.

Anytime I want to talk about boxing for the last 20 years.

You brought up Mr.

T, Andy. All he does is rocky. It's the only reference point he has. He offers me nothing else, but he loves to talk about it. It's my fault. It's my fault. I should know better by now. But how are you experiencing him going through the storyline of Rocky, which is the only language he has for boxing for 20 years?

If I'm being honest, I've been reading Bill Connolly's S&P Plus College Football Week 9 review. There's a five-way tie right now for first place in the Big 12 because of the Kansas-Oklahoma game. But I can continue with.

The Rocky tie. No, we have to get to college football.

Wildcats are always in that conversation.

Who's the Apollo Creed in that book? Rocky Top.

We will get to football and- I.

Think Bill Connolly writes a book every week. I think Bill Connolly writes a book every week.

A book a week.

Who's the clever lay in that conference?

Yeah. Bingo.

Watch out for the pokes.

Jessica, he's referencing movies from 30 years ago, and you have no reference point.

You brought it up.

50 years ago.

At this point. You said Mr. T.

It is. It's my fault. Yes. It is. I did. I brought it up. I was trying to speak a language he understands.

You did. Where's Kansas?

Oh, Kansas.

Don Libertard. I think I'd like to know when I'm going to die because I romanticize the idea of living like you were dying. When you're on a countdown clock, imagine all the life experiences. I could go skydiving or Rocky Mountain climbing. Still got.

Roy brings up a.

Point, though. -roy does bring up.

A point, though. You might be risking paralysis. That's a pretty direct- You just totally trampled my bed.

I'm just totally trampled in my bed.

But Mike, what if, God forbid, it says you're going to die in a week. What if it says a week, though, or two days, or a month?

I don't want to know that. Well, then you just love deeper and speak sweeter and give forgiveness to those that you've been denying. Someday I hope you get the chance to live like you were dying.

Do you have more or is that it?

No, thank you guys for letting me go through that smoothly. This is the.

Dan Levator.

Show with.

The Stugats.

We're all going to die. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. The oceans are all burning and we're all wondering why. Let's turn on the news and find out how we're going to die. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. Were unable to procure and get to travel the $6.3 million animated face that was accompanying this horrifying climate fact of the day. But I walked in today, Stugats, andI asked, incredibly, Did everyone see what happened to Acapulco? No one had seen it, Stugat. What happened in Acapulco is a tropical storm, people were warned, Hey, a tropical storm is something… It's not something too terrible. In 12 hours, it increased in speed so fast that it became a category five hurricane and wiped out their bodies and just wiped out a place that didn't have warning, the normal warning that we have for these things that allow us to evacuate. Now a place, a populace, certainly at least that people have heard of, some of this stuff has been happening. We had six hurricanes going on at the same time around the world recently. It's been happening because it doesn't happen here to places that we care about or to people that we care about.

If one of these apocalypses hits someone you care about, their life is going to be ruined. Right.

You'll start to care. Correct. But to have something go from a tropical storm to a Cat 5, that quickly, that.

Is scary. It's never happened before.

Right, that's scary. That's pretty quick. We reside in a place where storms get really powerful really fast. Across the Gulf, everyone should be getting used to that because they get microwaved over there.

But 12 hours, usually they'll tell you, Hey, 48 hours from now, cat two, cat three, five days from now, maybe a cat five.

Especially in a part of the world that doesn't have to deal with that all the time. We're used to having to mobilize quickly for strong storms, not huckapulca.

This is the new normal, I would say. I don't mean to be alarmist or fear-monger. It's not illegitimate. I know many of you do not think that one of the world's funniest people is making impending doom funny for us because he poured himself into don't look up a movie meant to point out to everybody, Hey, we're doing some really stupid, stupid shit, and these storms are going to come to houses near you soon. Is that fear mongering? It seems just obvious. If it happens in Al Capulco, it's a.

Funny- It's reality. It's reality, but I want to detach a little bit. I would really love to talk about the games today. You know what my fear is? It's like getting what Magic Johnson got in Hawaii, that alert that saw him show up in a bunker because I think my phone is going to go off because the world is going to end at any second. You have the climate stuff. You have international political relations. You have very easily the doomsday clock is approaching.

A mass shooting.

In Maine. Yeah, it's just all bad. It. It's all about it. One of my big fears is being jogged out of my sleep at 3:00 AM with a phone alert that I can't shut off telling me to take cover.

So AJ Brown?

Oh, six straight now, 125?

Julio Jones?

No, AJ Brown. Aj Brown is where you go.

Aj Brown, but.

He's back. Unstoppable. It's six straight games, 125 plus. Calvin Johnson did it five straight times. You don't get this dominance where someone is manhandling defensive backs because he's too big, strong, and fast. This is not something you get from the wide receiver positions. Jaylen Heardt has a wonderful skill set, but right now, he's throwing to a Randy Moss type of receiver. Can't be covered by two guys, can't be covered by one guy. He's just bigger and stronger than the people he's going.

Up against. He has six consecutive games of 125 yards plus, which is better than any six game span Jerry Rice ever had in his career.

And still less yards than entire recal.

I know. You can make a legit argument, though, that Tariq Hill or AJ Brown should be the NFL MVP.

You have made both of those. You have made now we are not even into the second hour of the show.

I'm just saying, Dave, it should be said, okay? On all platforms, on every show. Tariq Hill deserves to be the MVP of the NFL. He does.

Okay, and so does AJ Brown. Okay, that's fine. That's good.

He should be in the conversation. Tariq Hill should.

Win it. Stugat. He should win it. I don't really want to have an MVP.

Take Tarik Hill off the Dolphins. Tell me what you think the record would be. Thank you.

I wish the.

Mvp wasn't just humans because the touch push would be the MVP. We can agree on that, right?

It.

Was stopped. Did you see? It was stopped, and then they came up with an audible, like a little evolution of the touch push. Too soon. Man, that seems unstoppable.

What was your reaction when it was stopped? I was like, What?

They just messed it up.

They messed.

The snap.

They fumbled. Still, I was like, What?

But then I saw what Swift did and they ran out of it. I'm like, What did she do?

Did you see Denver played Taylor Swift songs loud at the end of that game to, Come on, Denver, you gave up 70 early this season. You cannot taunt anybody. Yes, you can. Yes, they can.

They should be celebrating this like it's.

Their Super Bowl. They've lost 16 straight times to that team.

Again, another point for- They beat the chiefs. Yeah, they beat the Chiefs.

Take your joy where you can find it then.

Russell Wilson, not terrible.

Not terrible. No, he's been good this season.

He's been all right, yeah. Good for him.

But they gave up 70.

They beat the chiefs.

There you go. Bad game.

Yeah.

Exactly. You said they beat the chiefs, Dugetsh. I want to go over something here with you because they did beat the chiefs. But clearly, right? This was a funny conversation before the game with Mena and Mike. They're arguing because you can't trust the chiefs to cover. Nobody wants to bet against the chiefs because you're scared of them scoring 35. But also, you bet on them and they have these huge lines and they don't cover as much as they should, but you're just terrified to bet the other side. So the line is even inflated in their favor because people love betting the Chiefs and are afraid of betting against the chiefs. But Mike Ryan, who shows restraint here that surprises me because he's gambling way too much. He says, I'm staying away. I'm staying away. Reports are Patrick Mohomes is sick. I don't know what that means.

What did Michael Jordan do when he had a flu?

Then.

I watched the game and it's like, Oh, that's what it looks like. Looks like the only time you've seen Mohomes look like that was the Super Bowl where he didn't have an offensive line.

Dude, Kansas City has failed Mohomes, and I know his contract is part of it, and he has the greatest tight end ever. When you look at their receiving core, you have to take that into consideration. Those receivers are terrible. He's been trying to have them make a play for him all season long, and they fail.

He won a Super Bowl with them.

That might be wilder than Stugats's failed.

Not Riley failed, Miami.

Dude, those receivers are bad. They cut to Nicole Hardman. Nicole Hardman comes back and reminds you why they moved on from Nicole Hardman. Valdes Gantley is even worse. Don't even get me started on former Fast Switch Energy Drink Player of the Week, Cedarius Toney. They have Travis, Kelsey, who's been banged up this season, and nobody on that receiving court wants to step up. They're bad.

I want to talk about banged up for.

A second. I'm sure they want to step up. They just.

Perhaps they can't. They're not looking like it, and they've drafted. They keep thinking, Oh, let's just get this fast guy. We'll turn him into Tariq Hill. It's a testament to Patrick Homes that he won without Tariq Hill. Tariq Hills off to the greatest start in terms of receiving yardage we've ever seen in post-merger, but they could use a receiver.

To Scott. I want to talk about both of these things. One, banged up. Just the phrase banged up. How much of that umbrella covers. Like, banged up in that league is crazy right now. I want to go through something funny that happened with my wife in a second. But what Mike is saying and what you're saying about Tyreek Hill for MVP, it's not just that he's got unprecedented receiving numbers here in Miami when everyone knows, Hey, there are going to be 12 targets there. Can you stop it? There are going to be 15 targets there. Can you stop it? No, no, no, no, no, no. But also you go to Kansas City and you're like, Well, wait a minute. This used to look like that when Tyreke Hill played there. Tyreke Hill is going to take that offense from there to here? Mike McDaniel is going to say, When offered in a trade, yes, everything I have, push it over there because you're watching every Sunday and you can't believe that you're seeing someone. Everyone knows he's going to get the football and he's too fast for anyone to do anything about it. It's not that he's too big.

He's too fast for anyone to do anything about it so much so that not talking to a deep ball anymore. Clearly, he's going to get so open behind your secondary and two is going to hit him and you got to fear it the entire game. So instead of playing Pittsburgh football offensively, where it's like you're just... Third and four is like just a C-section because you're playing in.

This- It's called a C-Zarian section.

It's.

Just- For what? Yeah, what did you.

Mean by that? You need to get six yards. Gruesome.

It's hard. Six yards is third and long for them.

Six.

Yards.

They are.

So- Four yards? What is third and long for.

The stealers? Third and long? They're lucky if it's only third and long and not third and 40. They're just so sad. I will say, there was a stretch of football yesterday in the first half of the Stealers-Jaguars game. That was among the worst I've ever seen. It was terrible. Can you pick a guts, slammed into the ground, no penalty. They go out there and kick a field goal. It's pouring rain. And then they get called on an offensive off sides because their guard was lined up incorrectly. I don't understand that. So then the field goal was longer. It was... It would have been 65 yards. He missed it. It was terrible. What an awful game. Just disgusting. Matt, Canada, I was with a lot of pit people this weekend because Notre Dame was playing against Pittsburgh, and I went to the game in South Bend. I was with a lot of my Pittsburgh family, and.

They think.

That Matt, Canada is the absolute most worst person on the planet Earth. He's ascending my truth. They were saying that at a game in which Pit lost 58 to seven. Their offensive coordinator is also on the shitlist, but nowhere in comparison to Matt, Canada. They all want that guy to be gone.

Is there a more frustrating penalty than when an alignment just has their hand across the line of Scrimage? Like when a defense... Offside and it's just... How do you... Hey, defense alignment. How about you just look a little left, you see the ball, don't put your hand across.

Chris Cody. Chris Cody. Christian Wilkins did that the entire game against Philadelphia.

Earlier in the season, the Steelers were in victory formation and their left tackle was called for being lined up incorrectly or false starting or something.

Wait, what's a victory formation?

I'll explain it to you later. It's what teams do when they're winning. They had to put the ball back to the Ravens and give them one more offensive series. It was absurd.

The Steelers are four and three. Nobody wants to watch any of that.

They were tied for first place in the conference before this weekend. So are the jets.

In the division.

I should say. Yeah, so are.

The jets. The same record as Joe Borough.

You say, though, Chris Cody, more annoying penalty. I'll go with just every pass interference, given that it's really hard to come by yards in that sport, except sometimes just the defensive back, barrel rolls into your wide receiver 50 yards down field.