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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, Fatface and the habitual liar. The computer audio crashed, so I will get that up and running. We will get that up and running. I'm not going to go into a back room and move some wires around. We'll get that up and running, and we will play that Conor McGregor sound for you in a moment. But Greg Cody, for some reason, felt the need during this break to say to me, The Stealers are going to be really Good. And I think everyone is really falling in love with them having two quarterbacks who aren't Kenny Picket, who they've seen had success before. And I just keep thinking that they were available cheap for a reason. It doesn't mean that the rest of the league can't be wrong on some of this. But the last version of Russell Wilson that you saw was a very constipated offense. But I think most people have the opinion that you have, which is Those quarterbacks are going to be better.

How do you screw that up? And I present to you, Arthur Smith.

That's fair. I'm not going to defend that club. But Pittsburgh, Russell Wilson, I thought was okay last year. Two years ago, he was awful. Last year, I thought it was a little bit of a comeback year for him. And Justin Fields, I think, is a great contrast. I think the two of them, I can almost envision a two-quarterback system that might actually work, where you play both guys, where both guys might commonly get 10, 15 passes a game because you're going to play them depending on series and score and opponent. I think they're going to get a lot out of both guys this season, and I think it's an interesting mix. And the other thing is, Russell Wilson came cheap only because he was willing to, because of all the money still being paid by Denver. And Justin Fields, reportedly, had four other teams interested in him, but he was lobbying hard behind the scenes to get to Pittsburgh.

But he was had cheap. I understand he had other opportunities. He was had cheap only because the other opportunities weren't a lot better for Chicago. If somebody was offering a second-round pick, he would not be in Pittsburgh. My guess is that all other things being close to equal, they sent him where it is that he wanted to go. If I told you right now, I don't know the answer to the question I'm asking, but if I told you that Russell Wilson wasn't being paid by the Broncos, was just a total free agent, what do you think he's getting where? You think he's getting a lot of money? You believe that after what he's done the last couple of seasons, that that's big contract that he's getting?

I could be wrong. I think he's getting a second-tier, Geno Smith-type contract. He's not 50, he's not 40 million a year, but I think he's a guy who's getting a $30 million a year.

Okay, but Sean, you correct me if I'm wrong, because I understand that some shine came off the bloom when the Dolphins were scoring 70 off them. But Sean Payton is supposed to know quarterbacks, correct? And they're paying him a ton of money to know quarterbacks. And they made a giant investment in order for him to know quarterbacks. And he got there and promptly ran him out of town. Very quickly, the reports were coming out where you're hearing sources say, Sean Payton keeps telling Russell Wilson, Hey, stop with the politics stuff and the kissing of babies. And concentrate on playing quarterback. He didn't like him from the beginning. And when I give a quarterback a lot of money, and then I give a coach a lot of money to be a quarterback trainer, and that coach comes in and immediately runs off the quarterback in a way that makes us all gasped because we can't believe how quickly Denver realized its mistake, you're telling me that you know more about Russell Wilson and his prospects than Sean Payton does, or you feel better about his prospects than Sean Payton does. Because if he could do what you think he could do in Pittsburgh?

My guess is that Sean Payton would have had him doing it in Denver.

When I say I like the combination of those two, it's because in Russell Wilson, you have a guy who's not chronologically over the hill yet. He should have a few more prime seasons, and I think he might. He's got the proverbial chip on his shoulder yet still to prove that he ain't done yet. Justin Fields is the opposite. He's the guy who one team gave up on, maybe prematurely, but probably only because they had the top pick and a very good guy to get. So they're discarding Justin Fields, who I think is better than being discarded at his age with his remaining potential. I think as a mix, I think it's a good combination.

If I'm reading between the lines here what my dad's saying, it sounds like you're saying that the Steeler's quarterback room is the hungriest room in the league.

Yeah, it could be. It could very well be because you have two guys who both think they should start.

Because most quarterbacks are fed well. Most quarterbacks, you don't look at them and you're like, Man, this guy really needs to prove something, or this guy. Most quarterbacks are paid the most. You're looking at a room right here where these guys both have to work. I'm a half kidding with the hungry analogy, but I do think that both of these guys have a lot to prove. Right.

They do. Motivation matters. They do still both have a lot to prove for very different reasons at different points in their career. I think the mix is going to be great. The motivation is going to be great. I haven't investigated the rest of the team. They always have a decent running game. They always have a decent defense. They could use a wide receiver in the draft, but I just think they're a team on the rise. I think the quarterback room is one of the most interesting in the league.

I am profoundly sad right now because what just happened to our show, we're headed to 20 years doing this. And for, I'm going to say 19 and a half of those years, a lot to prove motivation, hunger, and team on the rise. Thrown together would have made me vomit all over your face.

But you see what he's saying here? Yeah. Who's the least hungry quarterback room?

A lot to prove motivation, hunger, team on the rise.

You also said Sean Payton knows quarterbacks, and his extent of knowing quarterbacks is he had Drew Brees, and then he didn't, and he retired, and then he came back. But you won one Super Bowl with Drew Brees, one of the greater quarterbacks in NFL history.

I understand that viewpoint. I would also say to you that the reason that he was hired at that amount of money and no one had an objection to him being hired as a free agent for that amount of money is because everyone listening to this says that guy is good at making quarterbacks better.

I think you could argue he did in Denver. Russell Wilson did have a better year by the standard that he had set there earlier. And it was because, schématically, you could see Sean Payton's influence. Now, whether that is Russell Wilson's inability to want to push the ball further down, feel like he did earlier in his career, or whether that was coached out of him. I don't know if we'll ever get a sincere answer, especially when you consider Russell Wilson as a part of this data. But you like the fit in Pittsburgh in that they've never had much. If it comes to hiding a quarterback, not unlike Sean Payton did in Denver, why not hide that quarterback? Russell Wilson seems to be a perfectly fine quarterback to hide.

The problem with what you guys are saying is I believe that all of the analysis of this stems from the place I'm about to state. Because if I gave these two quarterbacks, Russell Wilson and Justin Field, to most of the teams in the league, I think it would be a lukewarm enthusiasm for that situation. But this isn't about the quarterbacks they signed. This is about the quarterbacks who were in that room that all of us know couldn't play. All of us saw enough of all three of them to say, Those guys aren't good enough, so clearly anybody would be better, whose name I've heard.

Really unprofessional stuff surrounding Kenny Picket. That's my opinion, not wanting to dress out, not wanting receiving the news that they were bringing Russell Wilson in poorly. Just like, Who are you? What have you accomplished in the pros?

It's weird that he would prefer to go to back up Jalen Hertz in Philadelphia than to back up Russell Wilson. But it would suggest that he's fed up with everything there. To me, that's harder to get on the field when you've got a young Jalen Hertz who just signed for giant money.

Has anyone told him who the hell do you think you are? Have they tried that? Because who the hell does Kenny Picket think he is?

Well, you say this, and I would say a star in Pittsburgh because of what he did in college. That's who he thinks he is. He thinks he's an exceptional- No, I don't doubt that he thinks he's And he's wrong.

But has someone grabbed him by the shoulders and told him, You ain't shit yet?

Really? Just like that?

Well, it's just because in the pros, he's not.

No.

I don't understand. This could very well be like he's playing his pro games in the same building that he was an exceptional collegiate athlete. But who the hell do you think you are?

Kenny Picket, you can imagine as a career backup. You can imagine that he's already peaked and he's going to hang around.

But good career backups are good teammate guys. Yeah, that's true. He doesn't appear to be that right now.

Whereas with Justin Fields, he's maybe a backup right now, but Justin Fields has talent. He's like a Jalen Hertz Jr, in my opinion.

They're also incentivized for him to not see the field because it's a conditional draft pick. If he gets more than half the snaps, I believe it turns into a fourth, which is still pretty good. If Justin Fields is getting half your snaps and you're hanging around the way that Mike Tomlin usually does, I really can't spot much of a difference between Russell Wilson and Justin Fields from a production standpoint.

Can we please address what it is that you're asking there? Because I do think it's a great question.

Who's the hungryest quarterback?

No, that's a terrible question. Who the hell do you think you are? It's just a great question to ask somebody.

Who the hell do you think you are? I am. That's right.

I think Kenny Picket would... What would you do if you come up all indignant? Because it's a great question to ask somebody. You're filled with gall. It's a great question. Who the hell do you think you are? What if Kenny Picket look at you and said, Garner Minchou? I think I'm Garner Minchou.

That would be That would be some self-awareness there that I'm begging to see at a Kenny Picket. No, I think he flips his hair and he says, I'm Kenny Picket. I'm the guy that changed the rules in the ACC.

Kenny Bleeping Picket, who I changed the rules in the ACC because I fake slid during a bowl game?

Terrible rule. This is the most inconsistently called rule. Just go back to, All right, Kenny Picket, you got one on us. Only one person had got one on us.

Who the hell do you think you are? It feels good. Put it on the poll, please, Guillermo. I'll put you in charge of the polls again. Does it feel good to say to somebody, Who the hell do you think you are?

Who the hell do you think you are?

Who do you think you are? I am. I feel like that's a rhetorical question. You say that almost as a pejorative, and you really don't expect an answer. You're just making a claim.

That right there from Bowling- Who do you think you are? I am. Is magical and is I'm him before I'm him and better done. Who do you think you are? I am. That's Pete Webber. Greg Cody started writing Bowling at the Miami Herald. I did. Isn't that how you started at the Miami Herald writing Bowling?

I remember Pete Webber's father, Dick Webber, back in the glory Days of Bowling when- Big Dick Webber. Yeah, where Earl Anthony and Pete Roth. What was his Roth's name? The Roth guy. We don't know.

You're asking us? Really?

What a great bowler back in the '70s. Really?

Earl Anthony and them boys. I know Don Carter.

Don Carter was a donor. Don and Paula Carter. Paula Sperber Carter. I knew all those people, man. That was my first job at the Harold, writing a Broward bowling column.

A weird time that must be.

An electric beat.

It really was. I was 17 years old. I used to sneak in names of my friends among the bowling agate. What? Yeah.

I love that.

Who do you think you are? Nobody wrote about Dade?

No. Yeah, Dick Evans did. Oh, okay. A Harold legend, Dick Evans.

So many big Dicks are on the back then.

Younger brother of Luther Evans, the Harold horse riding horse from that.

I was going to ask. I thought it sounded familiar.

Those are the days, man. Edwin Pope. Get Edwin on the phone. I don't think those were the days.

I don't think those were the days. He would be able to do that. They were days, no doubt.

The newspaper was King back then, and Luther Evans was covering the King of Sports.

Miami Harold, he just admitted a journalistic crime that'll get you fired, making up names in the paper.

At 17, I did do that a a lot of times.

Sorry, you wouldn't have a table, please?

Oh, sorry. Do you want to sit down?

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Dan Lebatard.

I miss crank windows. Too many unnecessary conveniences now? Cruise control, please. I've got cruise control built in. It's called my right foot. It controls how fast the car goes. No button or steering wheel lever needed. Power steering. There's another one. Why do I want to give my power to the car? The power that I once had. The car is a ton of metal. I'm a damn college graduate.

Stugatz.

Bluetooth, HD radio, satellite. I'll take AM, please, with Wolfman Jack talking through the static, and I'll crank the windows down so everybody can hear. I'm Greg Cody, and that's how it was back in my day.

This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugatz.

I saw a friend of mine this weekend, and he gave me a piece of information. When he gave me the information, I slapped him hard on the shoulder, and I'm like, Good for you the way that you would if someone told you that they were announcing that they're pregnant. I was really happy for my friend, and he saw happiness on my face as I slapped him on the shoulder. And what he had said to me was, I deleted my Twitter. And I was genuinely happy for him because for a few minutes, he will get out of this general poisonous addiction that is filled with a lot of funny. Honest to God, it's like going to the Comedy Club and having the room filled with a poisonous smoke. You're going to the Comedy Club because you're there for the jokes and you just see it getting darker and darker and darker. Something I've talked about quite a bit, I believe it's the globe's most untreated addiction, the fact that we're all cool with if you're sitting there on a sidewalk and you start counting the number of people who are walking past you, looking into their phones, you realize that we are an addicted people, that it is something that has infected the entirety of the human race and is also great fun that is difficult to quit.

It's entirely like that. A couple of weeks ago, in this studio, I come up from my car, I discover I left my iPhone in my car. I couldn't be without it. The first opportunity I'm flying back to my car to get my cell phone just to have it with me. It's turned off, it's face down, but I have to have it with me. It's like a security blanket. It's crazy.

Put it on the poll, please, @lebitardshow. Do you have withdrawal if you've lost your phone for a few hours? Because I think a lot of people would say what your saying that we've gotten so used to. One of the things about the addiction that's so interesting is that the need for stimuli makes it so that when you are without it, because it's changed everything. It's changed our attention spans. It's changed our need for action, our need to have multiple things stimulating us in a way that separate us from the present and an old-fashioned way of living. But I'm guessing that everyone I'm talking to understands the feeling I'm talking about, that if you've You're lost your phone, you're like, Oh, what do I now do with these spare spaces that I don't want to start thinking about some other stuff? How do I distract myself by just heading toward someplace where I know there will be something that gives me a feeling, and I may come from it thinking it's a good feeling, but very often it ends up being a shit feeling, and in no way in there am I examining, Oh, I think I might be addicted to this in a way that's not terribly healthy.

You just gave me an idea that I think we should do as a show and have no phone week and just see how we deteriorate as the week goes on. Obviously, I don't know- Or how much better the show is. I don't know. The show might be bad, and that could be funny to see, too.

Well, it could be better or it could be worse because a lot of people get their ideas on what they're going to discuss next by seeing anything breaking on social media.

I'm not allowed to speak to my family for a show bit?

We would all have to be trusted just to see what would happen to us if after four days since all of us had our phone, I just think it'd be interesting to see where we all were mentally.

My addiction, I discover, is not nearly that of some other people. My wonderful wife is truly addicted to her phone.

Dad, you're not addicted at all, by the way. When you were talking about your addiction... Because dad, I'll try to call you and you're like, Oh, it wasn't by my phone. You're one of the few people in my life that sometimes I can't get a hold of you because you're just like, Oh, my phone was in the kitchen. I think if you and you're sitting here saying how you're addicted to it. I think you're better than most are with it.

But I should tell you that I have done some reading about demographics and some things that are just on your phone. On your phone. Simply happening, the iPad. The iPad, the addiction spreads. I have to have some device on me at all times. I need to read.

Give me the bigger one.

That's right. My eyes aren't working as well. Give me the one that I can hold in my hand so that it feels somewhat like a book, like the old days when people read like men.

And women. But what did you learn?

You were going somewhere.

Women can read, too.

I know. I did that because...

Because it was the olden days.

Because it was the olden days, back when women didn't have the same qualities.

And Craig was writing about bowling.

Exactly. And then Broward. I I don't want to get back to that. But however bad you think, if you're listening to this, you think you are and you think the younger generation is, the amount of content being consumed by and early '20s, dwarf how other people are consuming content and has changed television, obviously, in ways that are overt, so overt that I will tell you that this weekend, I experienced something that I almost only and exclusively experience through sports. I'm watching Peacock, and I'm tolerating a minute of commercials. I'm thinking to myself, as it's happening, when's the last time that something that wasn't is something that I was viewing?

You're in the Peacock premium? With commercial.

That is a shocker.

I know. Valerie said to me as it was happening, she's like, It's $5 extra a month. I'm like, No. I'm like, No. No, I'm not giving it. No.

Do you know how much that is a day? I have to do the math on that.

Never call me cheap again.

I think it's six cents, something like that, right?

Never call me cheap again, by the way.

No, this is principle. This isn't about cheap. This is not about cheap.

What's What's the principle when you're complaining about the commercials?

I'm noticing something about myself that I did not know. It was a moment of self-awareness because I'm being stopped by commercials. It has been so long that I've watched anything with commercials Because usually when I'm watching multiple sports things, I don't have to focus that one of the games is in a commercial. Last night, I'm assuming most of you are like we are around here where the heat game was a relief because it 40-point difference, and so you could go watch some other things.

I noticed commercials when I was watching live Nickelodeon or live Disney channel with my daughter. Man, they should not be allowed to have commercials for children It is ridiculous.

These kids want everything that they see on television.

They're trying to skip. The TV can't skip on the TV. Well, yeah.

No, they go and try to hit the thing that says skip. If it's YouTube and it says skip on the bottom corner, they will go and try to hit. But the fact The fact that companies can market products to children in children's programming should be investigated. This is insane. I must have been horrible as a child seeing all these commercials for all these toys that I wanted, and there wasn't an option to not see commercials. Now, when I see commercials, because kids are not ever seeing commercials, I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it, I want that, I want that. It's because these ads are marketing to children.

We were desensitized by the commercials. We knew that every time creepy Creepy Crawlers came on. It's either Mighty Max or Creepy Crawlers. You got to pick one. Now, they just want it all.

Creepy Crawlers, by the way. Easy bake oven for boys. Yep. Or people that like insects.

Put it on the poll, Juju. Should it be illegal to market commercials targeting impressionable children?

You realize that when you buy the thing, oh, wait, there isn't an electrical storm that's going overhead when I play Crossfire. That only exists in the commercial. You'll get caught up in the-Crossfire.

See, it used to be simple back in my day. The commercial was for a slinky. You'd see a slinky walking down a stair. Everyone knows. That was all you needed. A slink. A slink. A slink.

That's right. I need to circle back around for a second to point out to both the audience and the Miami Hérald that Greg Cody, in an earlier segment, admitted to a journalistic crime.

A crime may be a strong word.

Misrepresentation. Trying to get them retroactively fired?

I think the statute of limitations is up, given that this was before words had been invented. Yeah, that's correct. He was 17.

The original maintenance group. My editors are all dead by now. Who might have overseen that faux pas.

He said during the break, he told me that Jake Gilenhall's, Gilenhall's father or grandfather worked as an executive editor at the Miami Herald. Really?

Anders Gilenhall. Uncle Anders.

If Greg is to be tried now, since the crime happened when he was 17, would he go to Juvy?

Me in a juvenile cell would be funny.

I was surprised, Billy, that you didn't have any follow-up questions.

There's a Wolf Farrell movie there.

That's true.

On Greg Cody admitting to putting his friends, and he would do it discreetly. He wouldn't give them any winning scores. He would just tuck them in the agate type.

You don't want to send up a red flag.

Adam Sandler just got $70 million to make this movie for Netflix.

You know how the script goes. The old person goes There's mean kids that are bossing this person around. They can't meet friends. There's the outcast group of friends. Then take in this old man who went to Juvy for committing a crime when he was 14 or something.

He then ends up learning so much about himself and becoming a better man for it.

Teaches also the bully kids that there needs to be more understanding in the world.

It's not without romance.

Well, no. This one without romance, please.

Well, there's a teacher. But power dynamics are fine when it's a woman that's in charge, I guess.

So he's in Juvy movie and somebody's asking him, What are you in for? And he's saying, I gave Paul Radke a 220 in bowling. I made it up. I made it up. And you're admitting to making something up. You're admitting that...

A couple of times I did it. I'm not overemphasizing. It's a joke.

This is the same as the Carissa Thompson thing. Just running what's like, didn't get the quotes he needed. So just filling in the blank.

Well, I don't do that, but I did a couple of times sneak in the name of a couple of friends into Bowling Agate. Agate, for those who don't is the very, very- Small type. Fine, small type that nobody ever reads. It's like every year with a Miami marathon, we run page after page of all the people who enter the marathon. Nobody gives a shit. Unless you're running in the race, you are not reading any of that.

It's those people. But it's those people.

But you just sold 100 paps. That's right. That's exactly what happened. For people that wanted to see their name in front of it.

I missed the days when you ran because you were competing or you wanted to be healthy. These people that enter these marathons, now they want a medal They want their name in the paper. How about just do it for the right reasons? Raise the money, have the money go to whatever thing. You get your stupid shiny metal. You need your name in the paper now, too. What are they doing? Taking up the whole street the entire day, bothering an entire city wherever it is, ruining traffic patterns for all. That's enough already. Run on a treadmill now that we're at it.

Billy has it right on, man.

Thank you. Spot on.

Bullseye.

Greg, we make fun of your age around here, and I just got done saying that you worked at the Hérald before the invention of words. Yeah, slight exaggeration. Well, slight exaggeration. But I do think that we shouldn't just skip past the fact that when we were talking about commercials, you went to Slinky, and Slinky is like one of the original toys. It's one of the first. Think about how...

I can't believe there were TV commercials.

There was a rock. There was a rock, there was a stick, and there was a Slinky.

It's like one of the original toys.

It's a Chia Pet.

That's right. That's not a toy.

No, but it was marketed.

It's not a toy. Chia Pet is not a toy. Don Lebetard. Are you back on the caffeine? Are you back on the Red Bull? Something's wrong.

See, we are.

Something's wrong. I mean, it's unbelievable how manic he is, and he just... He keeps chewing on his bottom teeth in a way that's scaring me a little bit.

Stugatz. I've been up since 5:30 AM I am producing content. In terms of being able to be on, my body needs a little boost. That's why I turn it to cocaine.

This is the Dan Leventhal Show with the Stugats.

Overrated toy, even for its time.

We can talk about the slinky because the guy that invented it, thank you for your service, but you didn't invent anything. You saw a You can go downstairs and you said, That's a toy. Let me just change the metal consistency and this will keep moving. Didn't invent anything. Again, thank you for your service. You were a naval officer, but you didn't invent anything. You saw an accident happen and you capitalized on it.

That's where I went with that. The aluminum one is very dangerous. You could slice yourself open. Absolutely.

I like the aluminum ones. Once they turned plastic, they lost me.

I mean, very dangerous, the aluminum core.

You want the metal ones. That's how you teach kids lessons.

It's the most satisfying sound.

A good toy should have a certain amount of danger in it to teach a kid a lesson.

Like a choking hazard? Yeah. What? Precisely.

A safe amount of danger.

Those wax army figurines. You got a mind sweeper stuck in your throat teaching a lesson.

That'll learn you.

Yeah, exactly right. The way that Billy described it was quaint. Once you make it a choking hazard, now I have the visions of all of your children, all of you, all four of you, have little girls, and I have now visions of all four of them choking. A choking hazard is a I've saved her life at least twice.

At the same time?

She's still not thinking about our children dying.

She's playing mobbles and everything. Reaching there, pull the thing out.

Choking hazard.

Yeah, no, you have to be mindful at all times. Pretty terrible phrase.

Got to teach kids young not to choke.

Yeah, I'm constantly- Chris Paul never learned. Parenting is just like running through doomsday scenarios. What is the absolute worst thing that can happen here? Because it'll likely happen occasionally, and it has.

The all-time classic choking hazard for me is the marble because it looks like candy. It looks like a little round thing that you would chew, and it's just dangerous on the face of it. Nobody's going to swallow a slinky.

Balloons are also very dangerous. Balloons, too. Balloons, yeah.

Balloons, very dangerous. There's a million danger.

It never happened to the marble. We don't play marbles or jacks anymore. No.

People are still playing for all the marbles, but you never literally see a marble anymore.

Never, literally.

Imagine if the prize for a sports team was marbles. Oh, wow. It'd be incredible. They'd be What is this? Give me money.

Maybe we haven't seen them because of the Patriots' dynasty.

Well, someone could have won all the marbles, and that may be why there are no more.

If you're given all of something, even if they're marbles, that's pretty cool. I'll take all the marbles. Now, I have all the marbles.

Where are these balls of wax?

If I won all the crickets in the world, I wouldn't be happy.

How do you play marbles? What is the actual game of marbles?

Something with Jacks where you-You try to grab as many of those pins as possible before it bounces.

No, that's Jacks. That's Jacks? That's the bouncing ball Then you get the marbles. I think you fling a marble with your thumb or whatever. I think you have them in a circle, and I think you have to hit the marbles out of the circle. Closest to an object.

What?

No, that's horses shoes. Or handgreens. Exactly right. Close only counts in horses shoes and handgreens. I played Candyland this weekend for the first time in years. Old school.

Overrated.

It had a glow up that I don't think was necessarily a glow up. They changed it now instead of... I remember Candyland having a spinner or something you had to flick to figure out where you had to go. Now you just flip over a card and it does you move one red square, move two red squares. I don't remember. I think that the cards is an advancement. Flimsy game.

Flimsy game.

Easy to understand.

Not really a thinking person's game.

It's intended for children.

It's also always been cards. I'm a big life guy.

The game of life.

We're really into life right now. Yeah.

Monopoly is still the king. Too long.

Too long. And you know it. Too long.

Well, it's an endurance test with Monopoly. You start off with four people and you end up with two people. It's four hours later and you're like, sell me park place for crying out loud. Exactly right. It gets to be a ridiculous face-off. Nobody wins. The game takes forever.

So many arguments.

But the bankers drunk. In the defense of Monopoly players, that's how endurance tests were meant to be played. You have your endurance test, you keep it amongst the people who are participating that. Not like these damn runners who need their medals and their names in the papers. I never see the name in the paper of someone who played Monopoly yesterday. I'd argue finishing a game of Monopoly more impressive than running a marathon. Good point. I think more people finish marathons and finish games of Monopoly annually.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju, @LebitardShow. Annually, do more people finish marathons than games of Monopoly? Also put on the poll, bigger choking hazard, Marbles or JJ Berreya. I want to know from all of you, when you think of Thinking Man's Game and not thinking Man's Game, when you think of the top end of what is a Thinking Man's Game, like a word association- Chess.

First pick off the board.

Because I was thinking more in terms of Trivial Pursuit, Jeopardy. I was thinking- How many action movies do you see where the villain is playing Trivial Pursuit?

Scrabble.

I understand that it's a movie. It's a movie, it's a movie contrivence as the Thinking Man's Game, and you may have already- When Rinaldo and Messi are getting together for a once in a lifetime photoshoot, they're not playing Parcheezy.

Have you ever see the video of the best chess player in the world? He shows up super late to tournaments where you get a certain amount of time, and he wastes 80% of his time because he's so good. It's like a mind game he plays with people where the opponent's sitting there just like, let's a little look at me, this guy.Asshole. Just win the game quick. You're wasting a lot of people's time. Exactly.

When you're caught dead in your tracks in the game of life, well, not the board game of life, in the normal game of life, they say checkmate, they don't say you landed on park place.

King me. If you were listening to this and you heard a sound, it's because I accidentally just hit the first note of that, and it pinballed through the room, it careened, and you might have heard it and then questioned yourself, but you heard it correctly, is Marbles. Marbles is one of the least thinking men's game, right? And women think, too. I know.

And they read, too, on their phones and iPads.

Yes, we've covered that.

I'd say it's chess by a mile. Everybody's playing for a second. Uno's up there.

I don't know if it's close. No, but how about on the low end? How about not? It just doesn't require... Because Billy said Candyland, not exactly. Checkers.

Checkers.

Red light, green light, I suppose.

There's strategy with checkers.

Freeze Dance.

Uno.

Uno.

Uno, you got it. Uno, you need strategy. If you're going to Uno without strategy here-Uno requires strategy.

As card games, though, it does. Like Rummy 500 doesn't a whole lot of thinking.

I am seeing- This has just got such a good publicist. Connect 4 is pretty challenging. I would love to see a big baddie in a movie playing Connect 4 with TicTacToe.

If you start in the middle with TicTacToe, you're a rookie.

Yeah. They just put up here some video of Candyland, which suggests to me that video is now working, which means I can go back to this Jake Jelenhall interview with... It was not just Jake, but it was also Conor McGregor. They They are selling Roadhouse. You guys tell me here if you think that Conor McGregor is sober here.

No. What did Jake bring to the table from the realism when it came to the fight game?

Jake's a consummate professional. Seventy-five movies made. I'm blessed to have entered into the movie alongside him. He was patient with me. He gave me guidance, and I just took it. We had a good rapport on set. He 75 movies made. I have 75 bar fights made, and that's it. We had a good back and forth.

Sometimes I had to remind him.

I landed one punch. Once. And he hit me with a door. Other than that, it was absolutely perfect. That's true. Amazing stunt team, Gareth Warden and Steve Brown, and they were phenomenal with us. They gave us free reign. And we've done a good job.

How hard for you, Connor, at all?

Because you've been in so many real to realize, Yeah, I'm trying to make this look real, but I am acting.

For me, what was hard was it was time consuming. Eighteen hours on set, very little rest. It was strange to me, but the fight scenes, I was happy to give my input and my all. And Jake, as I said, is a consumer professional. We've done a good job.

This is one of the great talkers in the history of sports. He wouldn't stop moving shoulders throughout the entirety of what it is that he was saying there. I generally just worry for him when you read about the recklessness, and I don't know whether that is recklessness, whether that is taking a lot of punches. But I will tell you again, after Muhammad Ali, this is one of the great talkers in the history of sports. He's plenty excellent as a fighter, but he's more excellent as a talker. He sold his fights. I understand what he did to B. J. Penn and how it is that he arrived, but he entered He taught all of the Masvidals and Covingtons and all of these people in that sport who have now gotten big paydays because of their mouth. He taught them how to bluster. He was better at it than anyone. When I see that video, I get worried for him. I get scared for him.

Yeah, I think the accent helps. It's window-dressing to what he says. But I agree with you. He's a good quote. He didn't seem right there. But again, you don't know whether that's the whiskey he sells or whether that's years of CPE.

I'm just telling you that this person is very good at selling stuff. He's been excellent at selling stuff, and that was a catastrophe. I felt bad for Jake Gyllenhaal sitting next to him, having to hear for the second time. He's been in 75 movies. In that movie, one of the interesting things to watch is how they tried to hide that Conor McGregor's Tiny. They did it a number of different ways.

Open stances.

Yes.

Did you mean Aldo? How Conor McGregor really shot him to sort him over BJ Penn? I thought the movie was fun. It was exactly what I wanted to see out of that type of movie. I thought Conor McGregor was really good in playing Conor McGregor. That video is sad, the video that we just showed, because his face is clearly super red. It's not because he laid out in the sun. His tongue is heavy. His eyes look odd. You pointed out the tic that he has. That was a dude who's got a reputation and leans into his reputation being hard partying. He doesn't hide that fact. That looks like a dude that was having himself a good time.

Well, slow is what he seems. Yeah, he's slouched.

He looks like that dude is at the end of a bender right there. That's what the appearances are. And he's had several public appearances where he doesn't look like that. So I do think that that is cause for some concern there.

Chris Cody, I think the first sighting of Conor McGregor, and they went out of their way, introducing Conor McGregor, because This is the turn. He will do some fighting, some more fighting, but his best days are behind him, even though he can still get a paycheck. So this will be part of the transition into whatever his life is. Roadhouse made a point of saying, This is introducing Conor McGregor as an actor. He doesn't appear in the movie until about an hour in. Nothing much happens in the movie until an hour in. But when he does appear, he appears nude and then gratuitously bends over.

Just letting you know. Now I'm intrigued.

That was his- It's fun. He's really funny in it.

It's the best acting he did in the entire movie. I thought it was fun.

I don't know what you were looking for out of that movie, but I got everything that I wanted.

Jake Jelenhall makes good choices. That's what I'm looking for. There are certain actors and actresses, there are 10 of them, that I like their choices. This was not a good choice. No.

Did you ever watch Prince of Persia?

I'm not saying he makes all good choices.